ARES SCR

If it wasn't so much money I would just for the fuck of it. In a shit bag commie state if that were my only option I wouldn't feel AS bad, but would still be pissed.

I don't even want an AR-15. Why the fuck would I want an AR-15 substitute?

>>31178221
I want one. Want to put a gas piston system and a side charging upper on it. Maybe chambered in something like .300 BLK. Just for shits.

But I live in a free state so there's not much point in spending that kind of money for it. Unless I just want to fuck with the AR fanboys at the range.

>>31178221
If it had wood furniture sure.

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>>31178221

I think a 6.5 Grendel upper on an SCR lower makes a decent fudd gun if you need more capacity than a bolt action.

I have a lower but I haven't done anything with it because I had to get a new car. I was planing on making a side charging ar.

>>31178221
Do you know if you can get these in CA with a normal mag release? If so im pretty interested

>>31178221
If I lived in commiefornia.
And it had wood stocks, which I think do exist for it.
Id put on a 18" crowned barrel, wood handguard, scope, and rifle slings.
Make it look like a non scary hunting rifle, and then stick a 10 round limited drum in it to scare libtards

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>>31178515

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>>31178542
Thanks to the traditional stock you can have a normal magazine release with the SCR.

>>31178547
That's nice looking.

>>31178542
not anymore. czech into gunmageddon

Yes, and not just because I live in California. I like the idea for the gun independent of the unconstitutional laws currently restricting the California AR market. I think it would make a fine home defense rifle. I like the idea of getting different uppers. A .458 SOCOM would be a blast to shoot.

I just think it looks cool.

>>31178254
>>31178256
I agree with both of these people

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>>31178221
Fun Fact: ARES recently changed it's name to FightLite. So instead of having the name of the god of war, they now sound like something you give a 12 year old.

>>31178627
Sounds like a goddamn flashlight company.
The fuck were they thinking, this is almost as bad as TDI changing their name to KRISS.

>>31178627
>>31178639
Makes me think of fleshlight

>>31178627

Did they rebrand the guns also? Will my ARES scr be more desirable than a fightlite scr?

I'm starting to get to shill-level on this Ares crap, guys. Every day a new post? Tread carefully, anon.

>>31178649

looks like someone needs to do the right thing and take a FightLite's virginity.

>>31178740
Dont worry. if it happens. /k/ will be the first to know

>>31178722
/k/ just seems to have a hard-on for this weird, mutant AR that is a giant fuck you to the commie states.

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>>31178515

>>31178802
That straight stock. what was it pillaged from?

>>31178802
Not going to lie... that stock looks sexy..
> I'm sorry not sorry /k

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>>31178842
I'm pretty sure most of the wood stocked SCRs out there are homemade though some use Remington 1100 stocks since they seem to fit them.

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>>31178903
Fuck I love it when wood furniture is mixed with black tacticool equipment.

>>31178639
Ares has a bizarre history.

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>>31178465
>.300 BLK
Here you go.

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>>31178767

Can you blame us though?

We are in a constant fight for the hobby we love and constantly have to find ways around these libtard gungrabbers,

its a constant battle that we have to find certain ways to win. Albeit a small victory, still a victory.

>>31178959
Trust me, I sympathize with anyone living in a non free state.

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>>31178221
It doesn't look half bad when built properly.

>>31178542
You can, as long as you just buy the lower reciever and not get caught with an upper that has a flash supressor and/or a forward grip.

>>31178556
Which kind of sucks since the release is out of reach now, but that's not the point in thecontext that you even need such configurations due to state law.

>>31178221
Want in 50 beowulf

>>31179055
yeah mine is currently in jail, good luck getting one now though they are either non-existent or super expensive because of everyone hedging their bets about the gunpacolypse.

>>31179047
>shitty stock
>disgusting hexagon mag
>airsoft optics
>memetastic front grip
D R O P P E D

>>31180738
Where did you get yours and how much did you pay?

>>31180831
kitchen table ffl and $475

>>31180762
Nogunz pls leave

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>>31178221

In 5.56, .300blk, or 7.62x39 there's not much reason to get one over a Mini.

>>31181410
There isn't a 7.62mm one besides .300BLK

Also the Mini has that sexy Garand action.

>>31178842
>>31178864

Rhodesian straight stock.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/1138390.htm

>>31180839
Can you give me the info on the place you bought it? What part of California are you in?

>>31181410
Well, you can slap on different uppers. That is a gigantic advantage.

>>31178547
I would totally get something like this over a Mini-14 as a low profile SHTF option to appear nonthreatening.

>>31182192
>There isn't a 7.62mm one besides .300BLK
http://www.ruger.com/products/miniThirty/models.html
7.62x39 russkie

>>31182192
Mini 30 is x39, kid.

>>31184780
>>31184925
The SCR isn't.

>>31180738
>yeah mine is currently in jail
story anon, pls

>>31184992
There are 7.62x39 AR uppers. Do try to keep up.

>>31178221
>getting a calicucked AR

Seriously?

I would rather get a Kel Tec SU16

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>>31178802
>Traditional stock
>Modernized AR style.

I get the image of a girl from the countryside moving into the city and trying to fit in.

We need to get a drawfag on this asap.

>>31185250
Upotte-M16 in a tattered farmgirl's dress gawking at everything would work as a baseline.

>>31178221
It looks strangely appealing, but I would never get one. I would appreciate it if the next mass murderer used one, or better yet a mini-14 with wood furniture.

>>31185336
>or better yet a mini-14 with wood furniture
been done befo'

>>31185347
yeah, but that was before the AWB though. And Breivik had his all tac'ed out and scary looking.

>>31185109
>jail
This is what the middle aged guys on Calguns call the 10-day waiting period

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>>31185388
those poor fucks

I kinda wonder what it would look like with a A2 style upper.

>>31178221
wanted one but gave up on it when i found out it was 600 bucks for the lower. fuck that noise built complete beater ars for less than that. if it had existed before i stocked up on lowers might care but at this point ehhh

>>31178221
No, because I live in a free state. The fact that this product has to exist makes me want to cry.

>>31185168
Isn't the regular AR-15 magwell too small for that?

>>31186044
762x39 fits in an ar15 its just the mags are iffy and they burn bolts

>>31186118
So it's an absolutely terrible option compared to a Mini-30 which is built from the ground to be a 7.62x39mm rifle?

>>31178547
Do you know what the front handguard and wood cover is? I like it a lot.

>>31186247
mini 30s shit in its own way by being ammo sensitive just buy an ak if you want to shoot 762x39

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You guys realize that enjoying images of the ARES SCR is like enjoying BLACKED scenes?

>>31186321
>ammo sensitive
Get Wolf hammer-spring or polish bolt-face and it'll eat steelcase just as well as an AK or SKS.

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>>31186360
...or just save the money time and hassle by buying an AK.

>>31178221
this shit's sexy af i would for sure. it'd be nice wit some wood furniture too damnnn.

When they first came out, I thought they were neat, but not for me since I live in a free state and therefore it doesn't make sense for me to buy, although I appreciated it as a nice "fuck you" to those states governments

Now that I've seen so many threads with pictures of them with various modifications I kinda really want one just for kicks. Plus I already have an AR, although its turbo basic-bitch M4 clone, I could get away with just buying the lower (they sell just the lowers right? with the funky bolt carrier thing that negates the buffer tube?)

Always wondered what it would look like with an ARAK 21 upper.

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>>31186401
>polish bolt-face
>costs no money
>now have M14ish rifle that shoots any 7.62x39mm perfectly fine
Nice enough for me.

>>31186470
It'd be a shitty gun, because the ARAK is balls

>>31186492
How precisely does it shoot after fixing the bolt face? Is it within 2MOA? If not, do you think an accu-strut would help?

>>31186504
How so I know they're expensive as fuck, but i've not heard anything other than that about them.

>>31178649
Whys that do you have a fleshlight ;)

>>31186642
AKOU said it was markedly inferior to an AK in reliability tests, and required adjusting the gas system manually per brand of ammo.

>>31186660
It failed a test where they dump sand on the rifle alright, then complained about stuff with the lower, which can be changed very easily. I don't see your point that it sucks that bad.

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>>31178627
I really want the belt fed upper, but I'm not paying fucking $4000+ for that shit

>>31186811
Kill it...

>>31186569
Around 2005 the Mini line was discontinued and revisioned, it has a thicker barrel and slightly modified gas system, better sights, as well as replacing factory tooling and some other things.

An Accu-Strut wouldn't fit on a new one without modification, and it wouldn't actually do anything since new Mini's don't have a flimsy whipping barrel (which was a problem on the old rifles)

A new Mini-14 or Mini-30 should be able to shoot 2 MOA with good ammo, and average 3 to 4 MOA with average cheap ammo.
A fancy Mini-14 Target could shoot sub-MOA but they're expensive and .223 only, no 5.56mm

A factory Mini-30 shoots brass cased ammo just fine, it just seems the firing-pin doesn't hit the primer of cheaper steelcase quite hard enough to reliably ignite it 100% of the time (you'll get a couple of FTFs per mag), you can polish the bolt-face, or replace the hammer spring, and this will let the pin hit the primers good enough to consistently detonate the primer on the cheaper stuff.

>>31186852
Combine it with the binary fire system trigger job and you have an LMG in all but name.

>>31186899
So are people bitching about new Minis just fuddlore?

>>31186948
>>31186852
Mother of god...
https://fightlite.com/collections/belt-fed-uppers/products/mcr-036
http://franklin-armory.myshopify.com/products/bfs-equiped-franklin-armory-libertas-built-lower-receiver

I want it. Bad. But fuck me it is pricey.

>>31186881
What's it like to not have taste?

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>>31186811
Is that your rifle?

If so, I would like a complete list of parts plz.

Pic unrelated.

If I didn't live in Commiefornia maybe.

Fuck DROS

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>>31186425
ARES (now FightLite) does sell the lower separately. If you do get your hands on one, just a heads up; the first gen of the lower had a shit-tier trigger but the company is willing to fix it free of cost if you ship it to them.

>>31178221
Depends on how much it costs

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>>31187103
Sort of.

The old 180 series Mini-14 rifles (at least the regular civilian models) genuinely had very thin barrels, for slow shooting with the tiny magazines Ruger used to give you (because Bill, while a cunning designer, was also a big fat fudd), they did ok, you could probably shoot 3 or 4 MOA with match ammo if you shot slowly.

But the thing is that the Mini-14 was sort of pushed as an alternative to the more expensive Colt SP1 (AR-15), and a rifle like that needs to have 20 and 30 round magazines, as well as be able to score decent groups with rapid fire, a Mini-14 would start scoring 6 MOA+ groupings once it got hot, not appealing (manufacturing quality also wasn't quite as nice). Eventually the AccuStrut would come out on the market, and this would stop the barrel from whipping, and genuinely greatly improve the accuracy

The second problem is that Bill didn't want civilians to have magazines larger than 15 rounds for any guns. The rifles would come with 10, even 5 round magazines.
This means you had to settle for tiny mags, try to find the 20 or 30 round mags which Ruger would really only sell to Law Enforcement (they'd crop up), or go to the aftermarket, and aftermarket Mini-14 has generally always been a shitshow.

You could look for a Mini-14GB model (GB=Government Barrel), which genuinely was much better, it had a thicker barrel profile which didn't whip, it was usually accompanied with larger magazines which the previous owner would have, as well as a bayonet lug to take M16 bayonets. Some variants also had a really cool looking folding stock.

Problem was that Ruger only sold these to police, so you'd have to find one used. They also had a higher value.
There was also the select-fire AC-556 models, which was the same as the GB ones, only they had a Semi/Full/Burst selector on the back of the receiver, as well as being available in a short carbine form.

Bill was a good designer, but his company really became much better after he died.

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>>31187932
Thanks for the info

>>31178221

They look good in wood. Otherwise, no point unless you NEED an AR like RIGHT NOW and your state says no.

>inb4 >NEED. You know what I mean, faggots.

>>31187932
When people say that H&K hates civilians they really need to replace H&K with Bill Ruger.

I'm old. I'm bitter. Fuck Ruger and fuck S&W too.

>>31188375
Ruger and S&W have really bettered themselves in the past 10 years, they're really not the same company they were in the 90's.

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU FIND THREADLESS BARRELED UPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>31178221
I want one, and I live in Cuckifornia, but I can't seem to find one for sale, and they're even more expensive than buying an M&P 15 Sport II and putting an FRS-15 stock on it.
>tfw want one but can't justify it

>>31188447
Do you live near beaners? The beaners are likely to riot no matter who wins in November.

>>31188454
I live in the upper Sacramento valley, so obviously there's some near where I live. But, as I said earlier, I'll probably end up with the M&P Sport over the SCR due to the price, even though the SCR is nice looking.

>>31178221
Someone offered me this plus cash for my truck. Don't really want to take it, because I'd rather have a PTR-91.

>I live in CA

>>31188393
True. But I still refuse to let it go. They sold out us gun owners. Sold us out. We as gun owners should have drove them to bankruptcy for their crimes.

That's for another thread and another time, I suppose.

Companies like Ares, or Fleshlite, or whatever they are now, should be celebrated for doing their part to help gun owners in shitholes like California. The fact that we have these threads and the fact that people say the SCR is a pretty good rifle make me proud.

>>31188429

just google around for bull barrel uppers. lots of companies make them.

I live in NY. I considered getting one but honestly don't see the point when I can just build a compliant AR and change it to a real AR if the law changes or SHTF.

>>31185372
The libs still havnt figured out that he used the mini-14 on his quest to beat chos high score.

>>31186298
Same here.

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>>31186298
>>31188718
The guy who owns this never mentions what handguard he's using but the wood cover is actually handmade. Here's the link to his step-by-step on how he made the wood furniture.

http://imgur.com/a/T0y1y

>>31188759
NEAT. Thanks anon!

>>31178221
Is restricted or non-restricited in Canada? Because if it isn't restricted that'd be fuckin awesome.

Commiefornia here,

Considering picking up one of these or a Mini14

Anybody have a preference between the two?

Which would be a feel most like my beloved my M1A?

>>31188759
>oak
>on a gun

yuck

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I'm strangely drawn to this design. It looks really really cool. Hat's off to the folks who designed this, trying to make the best of a bad laws situation.

>>31178221
I've always loved the look of wood ARs but a wood SCR just takes that cake and lets you eat it too.

And then you can always slap in a 30-round mag and have a gun that's as effective as a normal AR.

I'd get one.

>>31189963
>Considering picking up one of these or a Mini14
You can actually find the mini 14 in stock some places whereas the SCR is gone or unavailable. Also for the M1A feel you'd like the mini14 better too.

>>31191486
>You can actually find the mini 14 in stock some places whereas the SCR is gone or unavailable.
I was just about to complain about you not considering online ordering but then I saw the guy you replied to is a Calicuck and that's probably banned like everything else there.

>>31178221
I want one in wood.

>>31191534
SCR was practically made to go commiefornia featureless. I'm thinking of getting one myself.

>>31191608
>made to go commiefornia featureless
and once Hilary gets in and bans everything but featureless then it wont just be CA that it was made for...

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>>31178910
Wood and tactical is a match made in heaven.

>>31186345
But Blacked is excellent

>>31186345
>some slut I don't know sucking a large dick for my entertainment
Oh gee, how awful to look at.

>>31178802
how does the buffer tube work?

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>>31191962

>>31178596
Gunmaggedon banned bullet buttons, that's it. If you have no flash hider on the upper it's featureless and you're good.

>>31192022
thanks, i was hoping they werent so legally fucked that they were reduced to manual straight-pull

>>31189552
How does Canada's gun laws work? Does it focus on capacity and caliber or is it something stupid like muh tacticool super scury rifle features being banned?

Other than no flash hider at all, what would be the least scary looking flash hider to have on the end of an SCR? I'm thinking of giving one with a wood stock and barrel guard and scope to my fudd grandfather as a hunting rifle and then once he mentions liking it pull out the "you just admitted to loving an assault rifle that nobody needs! Hahaha! Enjoy your gun gramps."

He might catch on if he sees the A2 birdcage though, so I want to swap that out.

>>31189552
>>31192575
Canada bans AR15 and any AR15 derivatives. What a derivative is is based off of what the RCMP determines. A while ago the RCMP determined that the SCR is a AR15 derivative because it could take the same magazines and same upper receiver as regular AR15s

Canada restricts semi auto rifles to 5 shots a magazine. I don't think they ban things based off cosmetic features like pistol grips or flash hiders. It's mostly what the RCMP says if the gun itself is okay or not

At least that is what I read a few weeks ago on another Ares SCR thread. I may be mistaken because I dont live in Syrupland

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>>31192708
AR15s aren't outright Prohibited, they're just Restricted, like pistols, meaning you need an RPAL.

Now, it's true that a magazine made for a rifle can only hold 5rds, but if the magazine was made for a pistol, it can hold 10rds, this has lead to some clever things.

For instance, the LAR15 is a pistol in .223, thus it's magazines are 10rds, these magazines are basically regular AR15 pattern mags, and since pistol magazines aren't really Restricted, there's a gray area, so lots and lots of people are using LAR15 pistol magazines in their unrestricted (and restricted) .223 rifles, so far, the RCMP hasn't actually done anything about this, and it's been done for years.

There's the Vz58 sporters, which are available on a normal PAL, and these can have magwell conversions installed, allowing a .223 caliber Vz rifle to take 10rd pistol mags, what more, it's perfectly legal to attach magazines together, so an available package for this is a Vz rifle in .223, with a pistol magwell, coming with "Wedged" LAR15 pistol magazines (for fast reloading), meaning you can have a scary black rifle with 10+10+1 capacity, on a regular PAL.

It's not an AR15, but it's probably the best 'military' style rifle available to the general Maple, at around $1000. There are some other unrestricted .223 rifles which can have magazines like this, but the Vz is probably the best quality and value for the money at this time.

This arrangement can also be done in 7.62x39mm if so desired, by fitting a regular Vz58 or an SKS with a pistol magwell (this also allows for loading your rifle with a full 10rd stripper clip, like Simonov intended, you can use this pistol mag as a fixed 10rd one if you want to)

>>31188759
>759▶>>31189071 >>31189973
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Thanks. It looked home made, and that was cool. I like the look overall of the thing.

>>31193039
>pistol magazine
>.223 AR pattern magazine
>pistol magazine

Canadian laws never cease to amaze me.

>>31193039
Wasn't there things of people using .50 Beowulf magazines in their ARs because an 5 round .50 Beowulf magazine holds 14 rounds of .223?

What if someone made a .50 beowulf pistol with 10 round magazines then?

And then you'd be able to fit like 25 rounds of .223 into that 10 round Beowulf mag, and put it in your .223 Vz-58.

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>>31193780
Yeah, one of the most fun things with guns is to find loopholes for laws to do what they don't want you to do.

>>31194323
A 30rd .223 magazine can hold 10 rounds of .458 Socom, I think sometimes .458 Socom pistol magazines and .50 Beowulf rifle magazines crop up in Canada (and California), commanding high prices.

Someone should make a .458 pistol for Canada to sell 30rd .223 mags, they'd make insane cash even if they only sold a few pistols.

>>31180762
Autism.

>>31194353
>canada
>30rd mags

1. larger magazines than 5/10 rounds are only RESTRICTED, meaning you can still get them. RPALs (RESTRICTED (not PROHIBITED) PAL) are not that hard to get in certain provinces. Basically only Ontario is the No Guns Allowed part of Canada. So it's not really worth it to try to meme out like yankees do with the ATF, because if you're willing to just do a bit of extra paperwork, you can have most of the things americans can have just fine.

2. people already do that with the .50 Beowulf meme mags so that market is already taken over.

>>31191486
Thanks anon

>>31191565
They make it compatible with some shotgun i cant remember now. so you can get a wood stock and slap it on.

>>31187555
How do you know if you have a first generation or second generation lower?

>>31194915
look for the SCR-002 rather than SCR-001

>>31194915
Gen 2 cones with an open bolt catch whereas gen 1 it comes separately.

I would right now if I could fucking find the Monte Carlo lower.

>>31196107
Don't it take Reminton 1100 stocks?

>>31196648
Yup. that what >>31178556 used for his SCR

>>31178802
This reminds me kind of a modern musket almost.

Would have with a 20 inch barrel and full length wooden foregrip

Does such a thing even exist? The full length wooden grip, or would that be something you'd need to make yourself?

It blows my mind that Ares never made a factory wood stock for the SCR. Obvious product enhancement is obvious.

>>31178627
Fightlite sounds like a tactical 'sponsored by a marine' diet or an exercise equipment maker.

>>31178802
That forearm made me think of original G3 forearms. I think it might look good if some one modded a wooden or OD plastic forearm.

I would of course the only way I would buy an SCR is if it somehow was not restricted. Even a FAL handguard could work with the right forward sight.

>>31194415
This is so wrong it's fallen off the right-wrong continuum and is floating in deep insanity-stupidity space.

If you don't know ask.