Has anyone on /k/ got a Sako rifle? What's your opinion on them?

>>31173492
Match grade shooters with the customizability of a boot.

>>31173492
Pretty good out of the box, overpriced due to import tariffs.

Savage is a better rifle imo.

>>31173521
Do you think they are at least worth the price or if I'm paying that much for a .308 I should get something that at least has adjustable sights?

>>31173556
Get a savage .308 it's cheaper and the same quality with accutrigger

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good rifles
reasonable prices
i don't trust finnish people tho

>>31173556
nobody in europe uses open sights.
most domestic european rifles don't even have them.

>>31173609
I'm not in Europe. It doesn't really matter because I'm probably just going to get a scope anyway

>>31173628
i never said you were.
sako is finnish.

>>31173492
It's finnish, enough said

>>31173666
Good for them, I'm not Finnish so they better not try any sneaky shit with that vodka. On the topic, do you think it would be a good idea for firearms manufacturers to double as breweries and distilleries?

>>31173698
>On the topic, do you think it would be a good idea for firearms manufacturers to double as breweries and distilleries?

Not in the same building. Health and safety/FDA/whatever their country equivalent is would give them all sorts of shit.

>>31173731
No obviously but do you think it would be profitable for say, browning or colt to market their own beer or whiskey?

>>31173521
>match grade
I wouldn't go that far, but they're definitely good.

>>31173539
>savage is a better rifle
Savage is a good rifle, the two are completely different things however.

>overpriced
You must be poor.

>>31173594
>the same quality
No.

>accutrigger
The sako is available with a set trigger, which is also one of the best in the business.

Long story short: Poor people will bitch about prices, but they are very nice rifles and you can feel the difference. Anyone who says that a savage is exactly the same is a tasteless cretin that has no sense of finer things. You can see it in the wood alone, savage makes a nice rifle but their finishes are disgusting compared to something like a sako.

>>31173609
>nobody in europe uses open sights
>nobody
I don't think you would be able to know this, but I'll bite.

Open sights are generally regarded as a backup option and are extensively used in close range situations throughout the world.

>>31173835
One thing that's keeping me from buying a Sako is that all their optics rings they sell obscure the open sights, whereas there are a couple of other manufacturer rings are easy clip-on/off or let you see the iron sights under them, but I have no idea if they will attach properly

>>31173899
https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/mounting-systems/quick-release-mounting-systems/qr-sako-2-pc/

Pretty sure these will fit the 85, if that's what's keeping you held up.

>>31173982
thanks man they look good, I will look into it

>>31173492
Damn elves and their long guns.

>>31173835
>You must be poor

Quality argument. Sako is overpriced compared to the quality you recieve. A $1k Savage will shoot circles around a $1k Sako.

Let me give you a better example. I have a 1974 455 SD Trans Am. It's fully restored, valued roughly a $75-90k car. I have a 2010 Honda Civic. It was a $9k car. The Honda is a MUCH higher quality car.

>>31173741
Not him, but yes. They never will though because of the public outcry it would cause. People would freak out if alcohol and firearms were mentioned in the same breath.

>>31174151
>comparing 42 year old vehicles to 6 year old ones
>using it in an argument about firearms
>using it in an argument about PRODUCTION firearms
Wow anon, great point. Sure showed me.

>overpriced compared to the quality you recieve
>a $1k savage will shoot circles around a $1k sako
>implying accuracy wouldn't be completely varied depending on ammunition and caliber
>implying a sako would ever be "inaccurate"
When was the last time you owned a $1k anything, you fucking peasant? What's a $1k savage like anyways? $950 worth of action/barrel and $50 of stock made from recycled water bottles?

http://www.westernsportsman.com/2011/06/gun-review-sako-model-85/

>some mid-tier burris scope
>.510" average @ 100 yards with factory federal ammunition
>less than that with handloads
>1.2" average at the worst
Wow what a piece of shit man.

>>31174310
Oh and here you go, retard. $800 savage in a $400 chassis with a $2k scope strapped to it just to match that kind of accuracy.

http://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/savage-model-10-fcp-sr-review/

Good luck with your poverty.

>>31174310
Man you're really salty.

$400 Rifle 0.8 MOA factory ammo, with a sporter profile barrel.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/savage-m-11-trophy-hunter-xp-package-review/

Maybe take 10 minutes to search google before you make yourself look like a fool. That was the first link, I'm sure you could find better.

Also post your guns, I have a feeling you own maybe 1.

>>31174542
>$400 rifle .8 MOA factory ammo
.5 MOA < .8 MOA

Enjoy your accurate piece of shit that will never hold it's value. I will continue to like sakos which are just as, if not more, accurate and are worth more than a PS4.

>salty
>p-p-post your guns!
Into the trash you go.

>>31174587
>maybe take 10 minutes to search google before you make yourself look like a fool
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/minute-of-angle-moa-accuracy-out-of-the-box/

Lmfao.

>>31173741
No, that is retarded. It may be worthwhile for them pay someone to put their name a beer or whiskey, but not to try to get into that business themselves.

>>31174587

$250 Rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA.

BTFO
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>>31174784
>>31174587
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.htm

>>31174784
>>31174799
>BTFO
>fucks up the post
>gets it off and it ends up being a tupperware piece of shit
>it is no more accurate than a sako and worth only a fraction
Yeah, totally BTFO bro.

Better never buy anything other than a savage edge ever again.

>>31174830
4chan wouldn't let some links be posted with text.

>fucks up the post

You're so new it hurts.

Still waiting on your guns, and you to post a Sako that outshoots a Savage.

>>31174873
>you're so new
>after you can't even post a fucking link
Lmao.

>still waiting on your guns
What do my guns have to do with your claim?

I already posted a .5 MOA Sako, keep crying.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.html
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.html
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.html
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.html
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.html

>cant post some links with text
Kill yourself.

>>31174916
>Still waiting on guns.

Yeah you don't own any guns that's my point. You've probably never handled a Sako or Savage.

You still haven't posted a rifle that OUTSHOOTS a $250 Savage. Your $1500 Sako can match a $250 rifle, real nice.

$250 Rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_edge_detail.htm

>>31174952
>you don't own any guns
>you've never handled a sako or savage
If you say so, anon.

I don't feel the need to post anything that I own because you're butthurt at this point and will just rip it apart on the smallest little details and on top of that I really don't see what the point of it is. To be fair, you have posted shit either so what the fuck are you complaining about?

>OUTSHOOTS
Quit fucking grasping at straws and moving the goalposts, retard.

Your claim was that the savage would "shoot circles around a sako." It doesn't. It's exactly what I said, an accurate piece of shit that is worth next to nothing and in no way as nice as a sako or any other high end piece. It shoots accurately, congrats. There's more to owning a rifle than that, but a pleb like you obviously doesn't understand that concept. You're a poorfag that doesn't appreciate something that is both accurate and beautiful.

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>>31175003

Yeah, you don't own guns or haven't ever handled one.

What you're paying for in Sako is import tariffs. Let me give you an example since you clearly have no idea of how the market works.

A Mercedes or Freightliner Sprinter is always built and fully assemebled in Germany. The Mercedes are directly shipped to the U.S. The Freightliners are disassembled, shipped to Mexico, reassembled by Mexicans, and then shipped to the U.S. Freightliners are about 15% cheaper. It is the exact same product, parts, and labor, import laws make the Mercedes more expensive. Same thing with the Sako. I'm sure in Finland Sakos and Savages are probably equally priced.

This isn't to say the Sako is a bad rifle, but it is overpriced compared to a superior rifle. If you want to pay extra for bluing and wood, that's great. Savage offers both.

Pic related when trying to include link

>>31173835
>you must be poor

Nah man, they're great rifles but they are a tad over priced, I believe it's mainly due to importation though.

>>31174830
>acting like the value of it makes it a better gun
>get proven wrong multiple times
>"I spent more on my rifle that performs just the same as your's so mine's better!"

I'm not trying to insult you, I really think you're autistic.

You're the kind of fag that thinks because something costs more it's automatically better.

By that logic, my SCAR btfo your rifle.

>>31175003
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-495495.html
1/4 moa, $700 rifle. Twice as good, half the price.

I have a Sako Forester .243 Deluxe model, L579 pre-garcia, bofors steel, Redfield 2-7x scope. It's a beautiful rifle.

I've a .375 H&H Full stocked Sako.
It's a hoot to shoot.

>>31175344
>>31175344

Why are you fucks not posting pictures?

>>31173741
They would lose all the money in a lawsuit the first time someone gets drunk and shoots somebody.

>>31174151
Just because you spent 70k to restore a 25k car doesn't mean your 25k car is now worth 95k. It's still worth 25k, if you would be lucky to find some retarded sumbitch dumb enough to pay that much for it.

t. muhsheen shawp fulla dem der racen carz

>>31174916
>Chuck Hawks
>the guy that relentlessly shits on synthetic stocks ala Savage

The irony is delicious

I'd trade my model 10fcphs for a 85 varmint in a heart beat. Accuracy might be close, but the fit and finish of the sako blows Savages right out of the water.

>>31177693
I bought it for $45k 8 years ago. Those are pretty conservative numbers from recent auctions.

>>31174151
Where are these $1k Sako rifles you're finding anon?

>>31179485
https://www.slickguns.com/product/sako-85-synthetic-black-270-jrs1c18-1099-only-make-savings-500?mobile=true
5 seconds on slickguns.

>>31173595
>i don't trust finnish people tho
Are you Norweignian?

>>31179643
Buying rifle that doesn't have real wood stock. Found the poorfag.
>>31179653
Could literally be any nationality

>>31173492
I have a sako 75 hunter in .270win. With a bushnell elite 4200 3-9x42.The barrel is a good 3/4 inch and the walnut stock makes the whole thing weigh a ton. But fuck me, sliding that first round in is so fucking smooth it's like pushing the bolt through velvet, then reloading for a follow up shot is so smooth it's almost like a body function.

The weight is worth knowing that wherever I'm pointing it is where my round will land. Does 4 shot Moa (1.15" 8 shot group) on factory ammo (rem corelokt) and will shoot Moa all day on hand loads

Last time I shot it was a 450m heart shot on a fallow deer

>>31179737
Also the rifle is a .5 Moa shooter- I am not. MOA is fine for me for hunting, I'm not a dedicated target shooter

>>31179709
>SCARs are for poorfags

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i love my Sako 85 in .270 to be honest. very accurate, very good hunting rifle

>>31179900
No, they're just for regular fags

>>31179930
>sako with a swarovski z3
BUT YOU COULD HAVE HAD THE TUPPERWARE GUN FOR $400!!

>>31174151
I lost faith in savage the day I picked up a savage axis. All pride and prestige of being a great gun maker washed down the drain when they made a cheap shit unbalanced, incorrectly headspaced and all round sloppy rifle for profit. Which somehow influenced every other gun they made.

A $1k savage is like having 2 hookers who will fuck you the same way, except one of them has herpes

>>31182317
Poorfags don't comprehend things as advanced as rifle balance or stocks that are devoid of tooling marks.

They'd rather have the mass produced walmart stuff so long as it shoots.

>>31182335
I just love having a nice gun. It's hard to explain. It's like when you buy a really nice car and just spend all Sunday polishing it.

I'll do a real half arsed job cleaning my sks but I'll set a whole afternoon aside to clean my sako

>>31182390
I hear ya brother. I'm not a sako man myself, but I have a few supergrades that I will take down to the barreled action to clean every little bit of them.

Feels good putting it back together and feeling the difference after a long season of hunting in the wind and rain.

>>31182317
I had an Axis II that was great. The bolt was a little hard to work though. It's an entry level rifle, but mine was sub-MOA. I don't hunt so rifle balance means nothing to me.

My Model 11 however is fantastic, you can work the bolt with 1 finger it's so smooth.

>>31182335
Most people value performance over looks, hence the popularity of Glocks. Look at how people are about older Colt snake guns. My colt is filled with tool marks on the inside, same with my CZ.

You can buy a 55" Samsung TV ranging in price from $500 to $6500, with the majority of the difference being bezel size. The $1500 series and the $6500 series use the exact same display, but the $6500 has a smaller bezel. 99% of my customers buy the cheaper ones, but I get the snowflakes that want to spend crazy money just for a little better looks.

>>31173835
I just recently went with a savage over a sako everything about the savage felt better over all bolt was smoother trigger felt cleaner and crisper it was a model 10t if anyone cares

>>31182264
lol this guy is still mad at being made to move his own goals

>>31183656
Post pics fuccboi

>>31174658
^ might be a good idea

BCM approved low alcohol beer?

>>31183656
Do you know if the Savage action has a nut you torque down to hold the barrel to the receiver? Compared to just threading the barrel into the receiver until it's tight and having to index your work off of that?

Or am I wrong?

>>31183656
Either your lying or that wasn't a sako

>>31183582
>performance over looks
That literally isn't what this situation is.

You are comparing equal performance. One is more valuable because it is better made and uses higher quality materials and the other is made of recycled plastic.

If you want to cheap out on it, go ahead. Some people can appreciate a more refined piece of equipment and aren't blinded by price because (we can afford it).

>majority of the difference being bezel size
You have no idea what you're talking about, stop.

>>31183656
>everything about the savage felt better
If you say so.

>I just recently went with a sako over a savage everything about the sako felt better over all bolt was smoother trigger felt cleaner and crisper it was a model 85 if anyone cares
See how easy it is?

>>31183696
>mad
No one mad here, friend.

Literally arguing about rifle value with people who think the only measure of quality in a gun is the size of the hole it makes. GL with your $200 doorstops, at least they're accurate.

>>31183656
That's surprising.

>>31183780
>not mad sir!
>fucking wall of text

lol

>>31183785
>didn't respond with "lol u mad"
>lol
I should step it up to your level, sorry.

>>31183780
Does the Sako action have a barrel nut you torque down so it isn't a bitch to index?

Savage action is probably one of the better ones if you ever want to replace the barrel.

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>>31183780
Here's a video wall I sold, and built with the aforementioned sets.

I have no idea what I'm talking about though.

>>31173492
I have a sako a7 in thirty ought six and love it. It is bretty good.

>>31183838
I want to say, no. It would attach similarly to the R700 with just the threads, but the recoil lug is different.

Generally, you need to do more than torque the nut when fitting a new barrel though so I usually don't do it myself.

>>31183869
If you had an idea of what you were discussing you would realize that there is more to a $6500 TV than the bezel. The components inside of it, quality of them, etc. are all completely different even down to the speed of the processors. They cost more than a $600 TV for a reason besides the brand.

>>31183937
Between the $1500 and $6500 the only tangible difference is bezel size. I'll get you my Samsung reps information if you'd like to discuss it with him.

>>31183969
Please do. I'd like to hear him discuss how bezel size is the only thing different.

>>31183996
[email protected]

>>31184039
Thanks, I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

http://www.samsung.com/us/compare/#category/N0002201/products/UN48JS9000FXZA,UN48J550DAFXZA
>It's just the bezel!
I mean really, I can't believe anyone would ever buy anything from someone so incompetent.

>>31183996
Also,

tan·gi·ble
ˈtanjəb(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: tangible
1.
perceptible by touch.

The only thing the customer sees is bezel size. Same picture.

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>>31184103
>same picture
But it's not.

Let's include the full definition if you want to try and do it that way.

All those other things look pretty fuckin' real to me.

>>31173492
I've got a much older sako rifle, I like it. It was made in 1941

>>31184091
>UN series displays

topkek, move the goalposts more with curved panels

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/digital-signage/LH55UEDPLGC/ZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/digital-signage/LH55DMEPLGA/GO

>same resolution
>same brightness

Move your goalposts more friendo :^)

>>31173609
My friend hunts boars with a Tikka T3 Battue with open sights.

>>31184346
>move the goalposts
>you said $600 vs $6500
What goalposts, nerd? You were talking prices, I showed you what I found at those extremes.

>same resolution
>same brightness
Much like the retards that think the only thing that matters in a rifle is that it shoots holes.

>240hz vs 60hz
>e-led vs d-led
>edge lit vs. back lit
If you don't see the huge difference in those features then you have no business selling TVs. /g/ would tear your ass to pieces.

>>31173595
>i don't trust finnish people tho
Why?

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>>31173492
I have pic related on layaway. I've already put 1000$ syrupbucks on it. I'm getting the lefty 30-06 model. If this threads dead by then i"ll post in the Canada general.

So excited to have my new baby.

>31184479
>move the goalposts
>you said $600 vs $6500
>What goalposts, nerd? You were talking prices, I showed you what I found at those extremes.
Literally never said that.

>same resolution
>same brightness
>Much like the retards that think the only thing that matters in a rifle is that it shoots holes.
No one said it's the only thing, it's the most important though by far.

>240hz vs 60hz
>e-led vs d-led
>edge lit vs. back lit

Literally no difference in a commerical enviroment.

>If you don't see the huge difference in those features then you have no business selling TVs. /g/ would tear your ass to pieces.

O i am laffin.

I'll tell you what, I'll keep selling video walls and being able to afford guns, and you keep shitposting about guns you cant afford.

$100 says you're a wageslave.

>31184479
>Much like the retards that think the only thing that matters in a rifle is that it shoots holes.

You realize Marlins cost more than Sakos in Finland right?

http://www.huuto.net/hakutulos/words/Kivääri

No one says a Sako is a bad rifle, what we're saying is you overpaid due to import tariffs. That's fine, plenty of people waste money on guns and no one is upset that you did.

I wonder if in Finland Marlinfags are making the same arguement because they cost more. Probably.

>>31185962
Finn here. I have never even seen a Marlin in real life and all the ones I saw on Finnish websites were way cheaper than Sakos.

>>31186080
I saw sakos on that website for 400 euro and the marlins were 500+

>>31186203
You're comparing a few decades old Sako to a few years old Marlin that's shot less than 500 rounds. It's not exactly a fair comparison.

>>31186269
Ok. Are older guns not more desirable in Finland like they are in the US?

>>31186291
They are but as always, condition and collectability determine the price. For example there was a 1948 L46 that's nearly unshot. It was 1100€. That site is not a good place to shop for guns though.

>>31173492
A sack-a -rifles? I can't even afford a bag-a-rifles!

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>>31173492
I have a Sako rifle. Top notch quality, reliability and accuracy. Couldn't ask for more.

Heavy, though, unfortunately.

>>31188720
Beautiful range you've got there

>>31188817
It is. Shame that one RO is a bitch that whines about every single thing.
>no rapid fire
>no muzzle brakes
>must leave firearmsunattended on the table during ceasefire even if you're alone
>no holsters allowed
All the other ones are chill, but that particular twat sure as shit ruins your experience.

>>31173492

Just get a tikka T3.

>>31184173
Which model? Pic?

>>31185828
>o i am laffin
>i'll keep selling video walls i have no clue about
>you keep shitposting about guns you can't afford
>$100 says you're a wageslave
Your arguments are so weak that you immediately try to change the subject to something that has nothing to do with the point being made. On top of which you immediately resort to memeing.

You don't know anything about anything. You are just some fucking installer pretending to be an owner and I know this because (I own a business and there's no way I would still be in business if I had the level of incompetence you had).

I'm not the poorfag arguing that a sako isn't worth the money. I own more than my share of guns and no, I do not feel like I need to sit here posting everything I own to prove myself to someone who doesn't even know the difference between 240hz and 60hz display panels.

>literally no difference
There is a huge fucking "tangible" difference and that is why they are more expensive. You were proven wrong and should just accept that fact.

>>31185962
Samefag.

>>31186080
>>31186203
>>31186269
>>31186291
>>31186365
Lol.

The real irony in all of this is that I own two savage rifles (111 in 25-06 and 93R17 BTVSS in .17 HMR) and enjoy both of them. I just am not delusional enough to say that they are the same thing as one of my supergrades or various other more quality rifles. They shoot great, and I never said a savage didn't shoot well, but they are lower quality (in my opinion) and the value of them if I were to try and resell them is <$200. The wooden stock on the 111 looks like it is made of pressed wood and crafted by the finest woodworker the local highscool had to offer.

THE CLAIM MADE was that a high end sako was somehow inferior to one of my savages and it was implied that they were not as accurate. It was proven to not be the case and that the only advantage held by savage was that they cost less. So all I fucking care about is that the original statement was incorrect.

t. savageowner

I don't have experience with Sako but I do own a Tikka T3X CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Sako is the parent company of Tikka (and Beretta bought them both out a few years ago). The Tikka is the highest quality factory action I've ever run across. It's about $1000 new and shoots 1/2MOA out of the box. As a comparison, it shoots almost as well as my $3000 custom rifle. I'd check the Tikka out to start with but that's for long range shooting which is my passion.
You're going to have to tell me what you intend to use the rifle for if you want more specific recommendations. I live and breathe bolt action rifles so I'm happy to help.

>>31183656
Yeah, no. I call bullshit on that.

>>31192621
Long distance target shooting. Around 300 meters minimum. I don't own any rifles myself as I went shooting so irregularly that buying a rifle just wasn't worth the effort of getting a gun license, but now I've come across more free time for hobbies and I've decided to get my own rifle instead of using friends ones.
The reason I'm asking about Sako is that all my friends who are into guns talk very highly of them despite never setting a finger on one, so I'm trying to get more relevant opinions.
I checked them out online and the craftmanship looks amazing(not sure if it's the same for tikka) so unless someone can recommend a similar price range rifle with better performance I think I will get a Sako.

Accuracy is obviously quite important, I'm not too keen on them being described as sub-M.O.A but then I found out that for the first couple of cold bore shots it's more like sub-0,5 M.O.A, so that's probably more than good enough for me.

>>31194933
If you are going to shoot long range, I wouldn't go with the model you were looking at. You will want a thicker barrel profile so your shots don't string as the barrel heats. Similarly, you'll want a detachable box magazine as opposed to an internal box.

Not to be too harsh to the people here, but 99% of them don't know shit about ballistics or long range shooting. I'd recommend you lurk Sniper's Hide for a month before you make a decision and waste your hard earned money. I can't get into everything you need to know but I will emphasize how important a good optic is for LR shooting. Lurk the riflescope section and bolt action section. In a month or two, you'll be able to make a more informed purchase.

>>31194933
>>31195894
Forgot to link it. Here you go.

http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums?s=541

>>31195894
>but 99% of them don't know shit about ballistics or long range shooting

Neither do the people on the forum you linked.

>>31195914
The bolt action forum? Pretty much everyone there shoots out to 1000. You have to know something to do that.