yfw Jesus returns.

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>>31167652

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Jesus was not an advocate of nonviolence. Nope, he never said a word about it. In fact, we have him on record behaving violently -- in all four gospels! While he often avoided violence, this does not mean he taught an ethic of non-violence.

If we are going to set the record straight, we need to look at those parts of the gospels that are used to support the non-violence claim, as well as those that refute it.

Jesus taught, "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also" (Matthew 5:39). However, the word used here is the Greek ῥαπíζω (hrapizo), which refers here to an open hand strike. Jesus is saying, "If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to him the other." This is not about self-defense at all; a slap in the face is an assault on your honor. Jesus was prohibiting escalation, not a response to a violent assault.

>tl;dr read the bible. It's packed cover to cover with hardcore men of god who slayed their enemies without mercy or remorse.

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>thinking Christianity in anyway ever prohibits the use of lethal force
In fact it's quite the opposite. It commands us to rid the world of evil, non-violently if possible, but the use of extreme and brutal violence against the wicked is absolutely encouraged.

>>31167685

Which is irrelevant in Gods kingdom, once swords are tuned into plowshares.

>And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.—Isaiah 2:3–4

>>31167670
>>31167685
>>31167709

You guys are misinterpreting the thread. Its not 'Christianity doesn't allow violence/guns'

Its 'what if Jesus comes and tells you point blank 'no more guns for now on?'.

>>31167714
Right... But until then. Deus Vult motherfucker.

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>>31167652
>tfw

>>31167724
I would absolutely obey my savior, although he would not say that until the revelation is complete.

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>>31167724
Then jesus needs to understand that my life means nothing without guns.

>>31167726
crusades were a fucking failure, motherfucker

>>31167652
shoot him and wait 3 days to shoot him again

>>31167724
I'm a fedora tbqh, so I'd just keep my fun.

>>31167756
No, they prettymuch put a stop to sandnigger aggression across southern and eastern europe. Its time for another one.

>>31167652
U.S military isn't pleased with this. Invades said kingdom.
I would pay to see that.

>>31167652
>doesn't allow guns in his kingdom.
Good thing I live in America then.

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>>31167764
put such a stop that they invaded eastern and southern europe after it


Are you a devote christian going to church, actin on the word of the bible and fighting sandniggers in ME? No, you are just an edgy 13 year old faggot spouting pol memes on 4chan

you worth less than those sandniggers DESU

Hes welcome to feel that way, but at the end of the day, I'm the one with the gun and hes opening those fucking pearly gates quickly if he knows whats good for him.

>>31167790
edgy

>>31167652
>>31167724
I'd remind him that I don't believe in the Easter Bunny, then grab my nearest gun and start licking it.

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>Shoot the false prophet pretending to be Jesus.
>Get surrounded by swat for killing a man.
>Go out in a blaze of glory.
>Get into Valhalla.
>Laugh at the pathetic Christians/Muslims/Jews down on Earth from the modernized version of Valhalla
>Nothing but constant battle with every type of weaponry imaginable; no threat of assault weapons bans, no liberals, no magazine limitations and so on.
>Only breaks from constant battle is for feasting and drinking with other brave warriors and the Gods themselves and later sexual relations with females.

>>31167652
I love working with wood and building things, I hope I'm allowed various saws and other power tools. Otherwise I have no more hobbies and I have no choice but to sing in his choirs because I like playing guitar and singing. But who will build the guitars?

Jesus would be very unlikely to say this, even ignoring how unlikely it is for him to return in the first place.

I would argue that while he would prefer nonviolence, Jesus would not forbid self-defense.

>>31167652
What do you guys think God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah with? I'd say nuke, but I'm really leaning towards space laser.

>>31167685
You realise that one of the christian tennants is that you should not be violent, right?


I am the LORD thy God
Thou shalt have no other gods
No graven images or likenesses
Not take the LORD's name in vain
Remember the sabbath day
Honour thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shalt not covet

It's right there, buddy. Thou shalt not kill.

>>31167881
The actual translation is "thau shalt not murder". Nearly everyone fratured in the bible was a warlord or soldier of some kind.

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Catholic neophite here.
Jesus is pro-gun.
Christianity is a religion of peace, but not of pacificm.

>"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

It has been cucked into submition by the enemies of the faith in the last 100 years.
I could show you a few lectures about 'heresy of pacifism' from some polish priests (who still have balls and dont give two shits about political corectness), but they're in polish, so...


>tfw Sobieski The Mudslime Smasher was a devoted catholic.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-34.htm

>>31167891
This.
/thread

>>31167724
#notmygod
#praisekube

>>31167809
that's not what Valhalla is. there is not constant battle in Valhalla. you are mixing up Fólkvangr and Valhalla.

>>31167929
Not to mention Jesus straight up told his disciples to sell the shirt off their back for a weapon if they didn't have one already.

>>31167724
>Its 'what if Jesus comes and tells you point blank 'no more guns for now on?'.

Shoot Jesus. Then Juan. Then Maria.

>>31167652
Jew try too take my guns.
Hell no.

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>>31167652
>Jesus
>Nonfunz
>Nonviolent
Bitch please

>>31167652
>tfw heathen
Not sure what you want me to say.

"Sorry JC, it's not a bill of needs"

What's the best caliber for hunting the son of god?

>>31168126
7.62x39 since it's made by atheistic pinkos.

>>31167685
He who lives by the sword will die by it

Turn the other cheek (Pastor said once that you shouldn't let people walk over you tho, and that you should only turn it so many times at once)

>>31167759
Underrated post

>>31167732
First on topic reply.

Also, top kek and there has never been a more appropriate thread to post that in.

inb4 it was OP samefagging, I choose to believe it isn't

>>31168126
A nail gun

>>31167724

I don't see why would he if can like heal any accidents. It should be have fun time right?
I already fap to a alien girl rock and purple drill haired tentacle loving girl.


I'm not surprised if I'm going to hell.

>>31167856
Jesus was cool with woodworking, his cuck-dad was a carpenter.

>>31167881
Says not to kill, not to eschew violence in any form. You can kick someone's ass and not kill them.

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>>31167652
King eh?
Very nice
How'd he get that way, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.

>>31168566
underrated post

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>>31168616
Bloody peasants

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>>31168634
Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, didn't you?

>>31167786
>Muslim Conquest Battles
>counting shit the Ottomons did like it was a religious war and not just an Empire being an Empire
Pathetic how you guys just gotta fuck things up by always trying to pad the numbers.

European Crusades should also include pagans and heretics, btw. The Cathars weren't really hurting anyone but they got fucking massacred, so yeah.

>>31168668
Come and see the violence inherent in the system.

So the Bible says don't murder. No problem. Killing is ok, and there are many verses claiming so. Jesus said to turn the other cheek, but he also said to go out and buy a sword if you don't have one. Specifically, sell your cloak and buy a sword. He basically said, "try not to kill, but self defense is cool."

There would be no need for guns as the J. man wouldn't allow niggers in His kingdom.

>>31168720
And jews always keep their promises

>>31168705
Turning the other cheek really only applied to insults, not actual violence.

>>31167724
>>31167652
big surprise another kike is a gun grabber

>>31167652
Sounds like someone's itchin' Fer a crucifixion.

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>>31167881
>thou shalt not kill
That's actually wrong. It's a false translation. King James version started that, back when "kill" was their term for "murder". English vernacular has changed in 400 years, and the wording is no longer accurate.
Modern editions like the NIV correct it to "murder".

From Mere Christianity by pic related:
>Does loving your enemy mean not punishing him? No, for loving myself does not mean that I ought not to subject myself to punishment--even to death. If one committed a murder, the right Christian thing to do would be to give yourself up to the police and be hanged. It is, therefore, in my opinion, perfectly right for a Christian judge to sentance a man to death or a Christian soldier to kill an enemy. I always have thought so, ever since I became a Christian, and long before the war, and I still think so now that we are at peace. It is no good quoting "Thou shalt not kill." there are two Greek words: the ordinary word to kill and the word to murder. And when Christ quotes that commandment He uses the murder one in all three accounts, Matthew, Mark, and Luke. and I am told there is the same distinction in Hebrew. All killing is not murder any more than all sexual intercourse is adultery. When soldiers came to St. John the Baptist asking what to do, he never remotely suggested that they ought to leave the army: nor did Christ when he met a Roman sergeant-major--what they call a centurion. The idea of the knight--the Christian in arms for defence of a good cause--is one of the great Christian ideas. War is a dreadful thing, and I can respect an honest pacifist, though I think he is entirely mistaken.

>>31167652
>>31167724

Not sure if you’re looking for lulz or something, but to answer honestly; pretty much >>31167739.

He is my highest loyalty and authority, and if I had absolutely irrefutable evidence that this was His will, I would do it.

But still, this is the Jesus who is shooting swords out of his mouth and making war on the earth. Disarmament isn’t really his thing. Not until all the events in Revelation happen.

>>31167652
>>31167724

I'd sacrifice him to my pagan gods and continue to live in glee with my guns and porn

>>31167965
Explain mr!

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>>31167881
>tennant

>>31169368
>He is my highest loyalty and authority, and if I had absolutely irrefutable evidence that this was His will, I would do it.
>being this much of a cuck

Christfags everyone

>>31168566
kek

>>31168675
THERES SOME LOVELY FILTH OVER HERE

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>>31167790

>>31168659
>Don't Open Me

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>>31168566

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>>31167652
I tell him to shut the fuck up or I'll find someone else to mow his "kingdom"

If he keeps up this bullshit, I'll have to get someone else to do it.

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>>31167652
There will be no need for weapons in heaven.
>but it's not like you'd get a weapon in hell either

>>31169328
>NIV ftw

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>>31167652
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
-John Milton

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>>31167652

>>31169580
>he thinks he'll reign in hell
You're missing the point of hell. Servitude in hell would be a step up from what you'll be doing (no offense).

>>31169594
Not literally anon. The point is about freedom and having God's gift of choice to do as you wish. If God chooses to ban guns how do we know it's not a false prophet. One that would be hypocritical to his words.

>>31167724
I'd shoot him

>>31167652
Jesus doesn't exist. And neither does heaven and God.

>>31169429
Heathens everone

>>31167724
i would be bummed. but i'd put my guns away for good

>>31168616
10/10

>>31168705

He told them to sell their cloaks and buy swords so he would be seen as the leader of a gang of criminals, fulfilling the prophecy. When they came for him, there was no fighting.

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>Implying he can stop me.

>>31167652
Fuck jesus

>>31167652
>tfw heaven is full of unarmed targets
Sounds like heaven to me