Alien Invasion.

>>31164583
Depends on what kind of Ayylmaos

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If we're the ones who are invaded, we already lost.

The first civilization who manages to figure out fearsible space travel will be the first civilization to conquer all the others. If they have the tech to travel through space, they most likely already have far better weaponry than we do, not to mention better tactics since they'd know more about planetary incursion/occupation than us.

Either way they could just make an FOB on the moon, study our planet for a few days and, if they deem us too dangerous, nuke the shit out of us from orbit before we even realize they're there (even if we did realize they're attacking, they'd most likely use weaponry we can't take down with any kind of defense system).

THEN they invade to pick off stragglers. The end.

>>31164583
set the jews upon them

>>31164652
Also, regarding this
>To make it clear their not WMD spamming, they want the biosphere intact.

They'd just go find another planet similar to ours. They can space travel.

We didn't find any form of life in our observable universe yet, and our observable universe is pretty fucking big. If THEY find US instead of the way around, that means they've probably already visited a fuckton of astronomical objects on their way to Earth, of which at least one would have the same materials/resources elements as our planet, and possibly even new ones.

The only possible reason ayys would ever want to go to war with us would be to either exterminate us before we get to master space travel and become a force to match theirs, or to gather specimens to study/experiment on. In either case they'd just nuke most and scoop up the survivors.

TL;DR if we want to win a war against ayys, WE gotta be the invaders.

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>>31164583
So long as Tom Cruise is still alive, we're good.

>>31164765
100% correct and to the point. WE can't even make armor that covers us by half to defeat rifle rounds from our OWN small arms. Gauss tech is to young, power armor is too young drone infantry is to young drones are barely used. In short we be steam rolled into compost quicker then a faggot to rainbow sandwich.

>>31164583

I'm going to straight up recycle my response from last time this thread was posted:

>Aliens could just bomb all military bases and population centers from high orbit. There would be no way to stop them. The most "realistic" alien invasion is probably Half-Life 2......you start off the game with humanity already conquered and being herded into cities that are essentially just giant concentration camps. And later you find out that the entire planet only made it 7 hours before surrendering. It is also heavily implied that the only reason the humans have any chance at all is because another group of more advanced of aliens is working to screw with the invaders behind the scenes.

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>>31164583
>>31164588
>ayylmaos
Millennials literally going out of their own way to misspell the word "aliens."

>>31164820
That movie is so based.

>implying an advanced alien race has any intention of conquering another intelligent species

And dont give me this "hurr native American " bullshit, the point is if a species has unified to a point where it is able to master space travel at this level, it isn't going to be interested in conquering another world or genociding another species

>>31164931
ayy

>>31164765
You seem to forget light has a travel time, right now there could be aliens studying nearby systems and we wouldnt find out until a few decades or centuries later

>>31166024
The ayys in the three body problem had a good reason to invade us.

Read "The Road Not Taken" by Harry Turtledove

The ayys arrive in LA, leap out of their starship, and open up on the Army with the most advanced weapons that they have. Flintlock muskets and muzzle loading cannon.

Worth a look. Google it.

>>31166095
I havent read it, but I looked upa quick synopsis, don't want to go too far in case I do read it, but the idea seems to be they have progressed, but need to find a new planet that can support their species for survival. If the species is able to move itself such a distance to Earth, why couldn't it simply terraform a planet?

>>31166136
thanks for the interesting read

>>31164717
That's actually a decent idea

>Jews appear to collaborate
>Infect alien civilization with zionist entertainment industry and financially enslave them in 3 generations
>profit
>aliens lose interest in earth
>rest of galactic neighborhood now up shit creek because space Jews are running the show
>Jews lose interest in earth
>no aliens, no Jews left on earth

>>31166024
>planetary resources are infinite
>I'm also a gigantic fucking retard that thinks real resources don't apply in the face of my special snowflake magic economics that violates the three thermos

>>31164652
you're assuming that the ayys have experience at this, best case scenario, ayys come over and this is their first time conquering a planet. Yes better tech but they've never done this before, and it's pretty hard to subjugate 7 billion plus people.

>Be earthling
>ayyys come
>go innawoods with SKS
>or hide in some crook or alley in a vast metropolis
>ayys come buy
>wage guerilla warfare
>stalingrad style so they can't use heavy weapons without fratricide
>ayy losses increase
>hippie ayys demand they bring their boys home
>earthlings win

>>31164583
>tfw you just beat it to an alien invasion/earth destruction hentai and are now reading this thread.

>>31164765
>if we want to win a war against ayys, WE gotta be the invaders.

But what about the movie Avatar? We lost that.

>>31164765
>>31164652
Simply hurl meteorites/planetoids towards Earth until everyone is dead.

>>31164931
Old ass loser, bet you probably have a steady job, wife, and house.

>>31165980
shame it didn't do so well in the box office. We've been missing good old fashioned war movies, and ones with an Aliens in LA twist are breddy gud

Considering the distance between planets and the time everything has had to develop, the odds of any invading alien race being with 2000 years of us, technologically speaking, is approximately 0. Best case scenario is something like the native perspective from the middle east. An eternal insurgency where the insurgents are lucky to kill more 5 aliens a year.

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>>31164583
We would get absolutely fucking shrekt'd

If you are a space faring race you have obviously reached a technological point where you could orbitally annihilate mankind or at least the major population centers, all without causing long lasting harm to the planet or resources.

Drone technology would obviously be very advanced and we would be helpless against millions of incredibly fast coordinated ayylamo hunter killer robots. They would likely also be able to knock out of cyber infrastructure either by hacking or disabling it.

Or if they were truly efficient they would spend a few weeks picking up test subjects and then releasing a targeted bio weapon to wipe us out without firing a single shot.

Point is if they made it to Earth we are utterly fucked if they are not 100% benevolent peace loving explorers.

I can only see it going two ways if they intend on keeping the planet alive. We destroy it. Or they're simply not so advanced that we could copy, replicate and utilize their technology against them. Which if they lose, we would certainly make our way to their world and probably both planets would end up destroyed. So naturally, first notice of a technologically advanced planet we should develop a m.a.d weapon. To keep things civil

>>31164820
That fucking sword triggered my autism with the force of a thousand suns.

It is easily a 90lb slab of metal. Yet she is wielding it with her HAND. Not the exo-suit's hand or some kind of brace. He own fucking human hand. Then she is smashing that shit with the force of a hummer t-boning a gocart over and over with the amplified strength of the exo-suit.

The first time she made contact with an ayylamo her fucking wrist would have snapped off like a stale cheeto.

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It takes a lot of resources to travel between stars. Ships are also not so study. There is no unbreakable material. I think of it as like what our ships would be like. Rather fragile and long. Also good luck orbiting earth because everyone has missiles that can destroy satellites.

First contact, if it happens, won't be a conflict. It would be one ship and one ship only. Not an invasion fleet. That would take preparation and would happen many many years after first contact, assuming the aliens decide to go to war with us and not form an alliance.

>>31164652
One word
Islandlwana

>>31167599
Deal with it, faggot.

>>31164583
What is this, an invasion for ants?

>>31166136
>Flintlock muskets and muzzle loading cannon

That would be a cool war.

>>31166136
Didn't Weber write something similar to that? iirc there was something cringy af in it, but I don't remember what and desu I think I blocked it out.

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>>31164583
We nuke the absolute shit out of them and deploy all of our nasty chemical/biological weapons. Take scorched earth doctrine and crank it to 11, make sure nothing is left for them to take. Because if I can't have it, you're not having it either.

>>31166136
Nope, it's not the army, it's the local police and SWAT forces, they don't give them time to bring in the proper military.

>>31167481
>>31164717
Yay

>>31164931
>t. ayy

>>31164583
An alien invasion would be pointless for them. If they are looking for resources our asteroid belt has way more than our planet does and we cant evem reach them. So why risk even one of their spaceships crashing or being shot down and giving us super advamced tech to fight them with? To fight over a habital planet of which there are likely millions of? I dont think so.

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>>31164583
Do Chryssalids count as a WMD?

What if we are the badasses of the universe? What if aliens have observed our wars and fear our species ability to just waltz in and fuck up some country that another country doesn't like?

>>31167481
>ayys come over and this is their first time conquering a planet. Yes better tech but they've never done this before
They're not gonna take any chances. Nuke most, then pick of stragglers. This is exactly what marines do out in buttfuckistan and the like - Callin CAS/artillery, then move in.

You wouldn't charge into an occupied village without killing as many enemy combatants in it without casualties as possible.

>>31167509
Humans colonized the Avatars, not exterminate them. Even then the Avatars kicked humans out instead of killing them, they could've easily just bombarded the whole planet from orbit the moment they left.

>>31167250
>a society so advanced that it has actually mastered a way to get around the light speed limitation
>It is still limited to farming earth like planets for resources to keep it sustained
Really anon? Try harder

>>31164652
Any species that has the capability for interstellar travel has no need to do it, or certainly no need to interact with other species.

What could they possibly want with humans? By that point they'll already be harnessing the full power of their local star

>>31168893
>certainly no need to interact with other species.
Being able to develop interestallar travel implies intellect. With intellect comes curiosity to learn about things, including the want to find out whether you're alone in the universe or not.

>>31168908
So how does curiosity translate to alien invasion / eradication?

Let's say instead of burning ancient corpse juice to power primitive cars like we do, hypothetical alien species is directly harnessing the power of their sun with a megastructure like a dyson sphere. Imagine the kinds of extremely advanced telescopes and sensors and who knows what else they would have. With our extremely limited capabilities we have already confirmed the existence of thousands of planets outside the solar system, including information such as mass, distance , temperature etc. Think of how much easier it is to send information at light speed compared to sending actual starships with invading armies, and all for nothing, because with that much power and energy they would be able to just directly synthesize any material that could possibly exist, and create super materials that could only be created with their capabilities. It wouldn't be like Europeans colonizing africa or south america for resources in the past, it would be more comparable to the entire US military invading a kiddy park to scoop cat shit out of the sand box. Not to mention the possibility that by the time their force reaches us from their home planet, there's a good chance earth might already be destroyed / barren just by the distance needed to travel.

>>31168970
And sorry for double post, but to answer OP

Any alien species capable of intersteller travel would be hundreds or thousands of years more advanced than us in every scientific and technological category.

Imagine ancient rome fighting against today's US military in a full, total war scenario. That's best case, it would probably be more realistic to imagine it as cavemen fighting US military. We'd have no fucking chance

>>31168970
>So how does curiosity translate to alien invasion?
The same way zoos became a thing.

>>31169000
Why would they have a zoo of humans? Wouldn't a fucking article in their alien wikipedia be enough?

If they really need a physical human, why not use their information gathering to organically 3d print a human clone complete with neural mapped out memories, behavior etc. and skip the logistical nightmare of having to transport a human being alive thousands of light years, let alone send a massive invading army for the purpose of having a fucking zoo

We're already working on quantum computing, who's to say they don't have insanely powerful quantum supercomputers, or even something far more advanced than that capable of just mathematically simulating every possible combination of species to find whatever the fuck they're looking for

Think critically nigger, don't just assume everything works the same way at every level

>>31164583
>This thread again

Earth would get its shit pushed in.

This is always the answer, I don't know why people still ask this question.

>>31167577
Also responding to these posts, if they wanted to eliminate us to prevent us from reaching their level and be a future threat, there would be no need to go through any complicated plan to eliminate human infrastructure or anything like that.

If they're capable of reaching earth from space travel, chances are they can somehow travel near the speed of light (probably impossible) or faster (super impossible). All they have to do is just send one spacecraft (unmanned) at that speed and let it hit earth at that speed. The entire planet would be obliterated instantly and we'd have no way to stop it. Even better just aim it at the sun, they'd take out the entire solar system

>>31164820
He died...blew up at a Scientology rally and they launched his remains into space.

>>31168803
Honestly they should make a day z survival spon off with alien invaders instead of all these gay zombies.

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>>31168462

This tactic isn't going to stop Nids, m8

Mankind would unify for the first time in its existence to eradicate the aliens

Then we'd go to war with ourselves to claim the technology

The winner would own the stars

>>31166190
If it's the story I think he's referencing (which I didn't think was by Turtledove so it may be another take on the idea), basically all intelligent races except humans develop interstellar travel really early on--it's really easy to do. We just never clicked as to how and "skipped the tech tree" as it were, advancing in other fields.

>>31169191
magic!

>>31167599
Worse is that it's a fucking helicopter blade, which would just break upon impact and isn't sharp enough to cut through the stuff it was shown cutting.

>>31167729
Fuck along, fag.

>>31169191
>aliens focus on exploration of space
>humanity focuses on killing everything in new and exciting ways

neat.

>>31168893
Not with us, but maybe the planet we're on.

In any case I always assumed it would involve biolgical warfare.
Abduct a few specimens, develop a disease that kills only humans and let it run rampant.

No need for them to risk any of their own

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>>31169132
The fuck it wont.

>>31169195
Nah it's more like, creatures without eyes wouldn't need to build optical lenses to see better, which would eventually mean that they wouldn't develop lasers. If shown how they might go "oh well that's obvious how it's done", but focusing light with optical lenses might never occur to them.

>>31169080
>>31168989
>>31168893
>>31167662
>>31167577
For all we know there could be an intelligent species capable of multi-millenia-long hibernation, like a tick or cockroach but better, and can propel itself through space by squirting shit out its butt. Your human-centrism is showing in this sweeping assumptions.

>>31167599
Nano-machines, son.

>>31169195
>>31169207
Actually, come to think of it, I think their space travel was more of an interstellar teleportation than travel through the void. But I haven't actually /read/ the story, just a synopsis on /k/.

>>31167599
>>31169204
The rule of cool senpai.

>>31169254
The story says they use Hyperdrive like in Star Wars.

>>31169243
is this a joke nigger

You're the one being human centric, why do you assume aliens would need humans of all the things in the universe

Tell me what specific resources aliens would need from humans or from the planet earth

Also

>send your species on 10,000 year journey to planet earth
>2,000 years after journey begins, make a huge scientific breakthrough
>now only takes 1,000 years to send aliens to earth
>original group gets here after 10,000 years and find out earth was already conquered
>earth's conquering goes down in alien history as one of the most fruitless wastes of time and energy ever

>>31169263
Oh, well then there we go.

>>31169260
"Rule of cool" is used to rationalize having all kinds of retarded things that are quite uncool. You can do better than that.

>>31169273
It's in the movie and won't ever not exist.
You'll have to live with it.

>>31169270
This reminds me of Forever War, theirs a good book about humans fighting aliens

>>31164583
I like how in that movie the Army doesn't just bombard the absolute fuck out of the aliens with MLRS and regular Artillery. Or how the Navy doesn't just launch cruise missiles all day.

>>31169301
And you'll have to live with me calling the movie shitty for having it. Plenty of other films out there besides it where the director's 12-year old son got to decide things.

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>>31167541

Hahaha, you sure got him there, buddy!

Flipping burgers and popping zits is so much better than having money, sex and stuff to do.

>>31169243

I think manipulating the electromagnetic spectrum with materials is one of those things where, if you do one thing or another in ONE part of the spectrum, you are going to be aware of the rest of it at some point.

It is just too closely related.

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>>31164931
>pretending to not get the meme to seem mature and refined.

>>31169386
Maybe, maybe not.

Then again I'm of the mindset that even if we encountered intelligent alien life we might not recognize it as such. Alien life might be, for all we know, intelligent trees that take a year to express a single word, for instance, or rocks that just slightly vibrate to communicate.

>>31164583
>How would we fare if we were invaded by ayylamos? To make it clear their not WMD spamming, they want the biosphere intact.

we can oly hope for a war of the worlds scenario where they die due to our microbes. otherwise we are fucked.

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Would a multi planet spanning race of aliens be pro gun or anti gun? I think only a politically conservative species would ever be able to escape its home system. I just can't see it happening with left wing aliens. That's just me, though.

>>31169546
>I just can't see it happening with left wing aliens.

Left wing "societies" are destined to collapse to stone age savagery once the accomplishments of the preceding conservative eras are used up.

>>31164652

> build scientific and industrial infrastructure capable of producing an interstellar empire
> invade an alien planet at the bottom of a 1G gravity well, covered in a thick atmosphere and teeming with hostile life from prions all the way up to 7.5 billion sentient creatures armed with nuclear weapons

For an advanced, spacefaring species to invade an inhabited planet after developing all the tools necessary to survive in and cross vast expanses of space would be like you taking a stack of $10,000 cash and a brand new luxury rental car on a cross country road trip and instead of staying hotels and eating steak, invading homes and killing people to take their leftover chili mac.

A spacefaring civilization would already have everything they'd need to survive in space comfortably away from filthy biomes and their hostile inhabitants. And there's everything they'd need to live not just in our solar system, but in the outer solar system. Saturn alone has enough water in its ring system to replace every drop of water on Earth three times over. And the stuff in Saturn's rings is purer to boot. Titan is a huge repository of hydrocarbons. Pluto is almost certainly covered in volatiles and Io is chocked full of God knows what. Stopping here on Earth and fighting their way through a deep gravity well and a thick atmosphere just to fight the native wildlife for their polluted food would be insane.

>>31169499
>alien species gets to space travel without first dealing with microbes

you fucking wot m8

You realize that decades old science fiction doesn't actually hold up to reality right?

>>31169583
it would be possible that on their home planet microbes work differently than here. either way, dealing with their microbes doesn't mean they could deal with ours automatically. they would have to land in protective suits at all times until they have reasearched the environment - which they did not do in the movie.

>>31169582
Nope. They'd probably want our nuclear fuel elements. the point about the water is valid though, I laffed and lost when they said they came for the water in Battle for LA.

>>31169607
Nigger we as humans already bomb people with drones and are moving towards removing humans from the equation of warfare. You fucking think aliens would actually risk their life setting foot on another planet to conquer it? Johnny alien is going to risk his life to alien techonlogy, diseases, atmosphere, etc. for fucking what, a paycheck?

This thread is filled with fucking retards

>>31169639
>namecalling

yeah, you can change the parameters that the thread is supposed to be happening at as much as you want. the general idea though is that biological aliens would be coming here.

>>31164931
Fuck off newfag

>>31169632
>They'd probably want our nuclear fuel elements.
What? Like Uranium? That shit doesn't exist anywhere else in the galaxy? I call bullshit lol

>>31169660
>31169660
The answer is

If we were invaded by aliens, that implies they have far more advanced technology than we do

Having far more advanced technology implies that they are AT LEAST as intelligent as us

These things together imply that they would utterly destroy us with no chance of retaliation whatsoever

That's it

>They'd probably want our nuclear fuel elements.
You have to be the biggest idiot in this thread by far

>>31169672
No, but it is highly concentrated in our core and responsible for it being basically a huge blob of molten shit. Also, with our planet being relatively small, it would be a candidate where mining it would be relatively easy.

>>31164717
Glorious idea.
>Jews meet the aliens for trade relations
>They start slowly taking over their entertainment industry
>Make the aliens feel bad about what they did to us
>Start "human's right movements"
>Spread "Big cocked human fuck little alien slut" porn
>Slowly aliens start to taking us in, guilt ridded by what they have done to us
>generations later, we are outbreeding them, infecting them with aids and looting their stores

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>>31169571
My thought was that any SJW alien species would be too content to waste its resources as aid money sent to their version of Africa. I think they would just do that until their sun dies and never leave their system in anything but a dinky, last ditch ship with no real hope of successfully setting a new world.

Because of this, I think any aliens that arrive in our system with capable and advanced ships should be treated cautiously. We don't want them to see us as either a new underclass or as enemies.

dammit I can't format my posts for shit because I haven't slept in 2 days

I'm now going to carefully explain why >>31169632 is an idiot

A fully operated nuclear reactor in america outputs something (example from google) like 479 megawatts an hour

The sun in our solar system outputs 384.6 yottawatts a second

Do you fucking understand the astronomical difference that is? A megawat is 10^6, a yottowat is 10^24, the difference is fucking insane

Every star in the galaxy is already an ultra powerful nuclear fusion reactor that's just shitting energy. There's at least 300 billion stars in the milky way galaxy alone. JUST our galaxy, of the countless galaxies that exist. Any space faring civilization has essentially unlimited access to energy and any chemical element that can be found in nature. Humans have at just this point in time already synthesized 24 elements that don't exist in nature, who knows what else is possible. There is NO reason to invade a planet with living creatures on it (which is AT LEAST one in three thousand planets, probably a lot rarer than that) for any kind of resource whatsoever. Any super advanced species will already have everything it could ever need.

Alien invasion is the stupidest fucking fantasy ever, it's good for movies and video games but that's it. You can't have a 'realistic' discussion about something that is hilarious improbable and pointless. A worldwide invasion of radioactive, mutant giant bullet ants is literally more likely to happen than an alien invasion

>>31169775
>any aliens that arrive in our system with capable and advanced ships


... would the exactle the type of aliens shown in Independence Day. They would see as as cattle, not in the way we today see cattle, but the way we saw cattle 1500 years ago. They would use live human babies as food if that'S what they liked to eat. Any successful organism can not concern itself with the feelings and wellbeing of others.

>>31169808
>I'm now going to carefully explain why >>31169632 (You) is an idiot

no you. I'm not talking about man made reactors you shit, I'm talking about the uranium in our plant's core. they'd want to harvest that to fuel their own breeding reactors. to harvest anything from our sun you'd have to be able to get there and then again escape it's gravity which, even for space faring aliens, would be another class of herculean feat entirely.

>>31169632

> fission power
> in space
> when you are surrounded by hydrogen isotopes

No.

>>31169840
Everything you type is comedy gold

>>31169810
I think they would see us as something closer to wolves or tigers, should our cards be played right. Those are animals that earn respect because they are potentially dangerous. Respect is sometimes better than friendship. So when an alien comes to visit, it should not be aggravated, but not cowered from. Stand your ground and let it decide if it really thinks starting a war is an option.

I think of all the times in human history when a race was conquered by another civilization. Every time it was done successfully, the conquering civilization didn't respect the people that were being taken over.

>>31169583

Actually, a foreign bacteria making it on board your ship would be a fucking nightmare.

Realize that how we find new antibiotics is by sampling soil and other substances hoping to isolate the one compound that kills a specific bacteria. This process is time consuming and lengthy. And even then, it's really not ideal because bacteria evolve around those novel antibiotics. And these are bacteria that evoked here on Earth. Most of them our bodies fight off just fine.

Now imagine that you're talking about microbes that evolved on another planet. Your body... your entire ecosystem would be totally clueless as to how to deal with them. Maybe you'd be made of stuff they couldn't digest. And maybe they would turn you into goop while you sat there talking about it. What's worse is that if anybody from your space fleet set foot on this alien planet and returned, they could be tracking tons of the little fuckers back. They could infect and eat your entire food supply. They might be really weird and eat the wiring insulation or gaskets or whatnot. And you probably wouldn't even know you had them until you were well and truly infested.

Nah. I'm sticking to the sterile vacuum of space.

>>31164583
>ayys want Earth intact
>say no more senpai
>sabotage a couple dozen of our nuclear power stations
>detonate our own nukes around the planet
>fuck our own shit right up
>ayys don't want Earth anymore
>ayys leave
>large chunks of humanity die, but we live on in the end

Ayylamu Ackbar, space nigger

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>>31169732

>>31169607
We would be immune to any alien viruses that affect them.

>>31169914
>Welcome, Space Pilgrims! Thank you for the blankets!

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>>31169732
>>Spread "Big cocked human fuck little alien slut" porn
I'd offer to take an acting role but they'd probably just use existing episodes of Star Trek.

>>31169732
America is really going to decline hard when most of its population is a race of people with an average IQ that's sub 80.

>>31169962

A virus isn't the only thing you have to worry about.

I've actually watched people die of AIDS. They die because they have no immune system and any old passing microbe just has a fucking field day with them. I've seen yeast infections strip every bit of skin from between a person's legs. Yeast. The shit that ferments your beer (well, related, anyway... yeast infections are generally candida albicans and the stuff that brews beer is another kind of yeast). When you have no immune system, literally any microorganism can eat you alive.

Imagine that you have avast fleet of dozens and hundreds of ships with millions or even tens of millions of crew aboard them and they've all been exposed to an ecosystem full of random shit they have no resistance to. Viruses are the least of your worries.

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>>31164583
>To make it clear their not WMD spamming, they want the biosphere intact.

Scorched Earth.

They want this? Well, fuck them.

>>31169999
South Americans are sub 80 IQ? Because they're the ones doing the population replacement.

>>31170035
Humans have a pretty hardy immune system. We'll be fine. Also, do you know how strong a crocodile's immune system is? They can get a leg torn off and then go for a swim in some septic water that contains all manner of bacteria and they come out fine. We could splice some of their DNA into us to boost immunity several thousand times. That's the real cure to AIDS right there. Force ourselves to literally evolve past diseases.

>Aliens unleash bioweapon from moon that effectively destroyes prefrontal cortex of humans
>Aliens have 7 billion mindless humans, comparable to someone on a lethal dose of xanax
>No thoughts, no cares, no emotions, humans are able to be killed or enslaved without resistance

>>31169227
BASED COMMISSAR!!!

PRAISE THE EMPEROR!!!

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>>31164583
If they're at FTL travelers and they want us dead, we're fucked

>pic very much related

>>31169914
or something that can attack us through the germ line.

something that the AAYYYYY's dont even notice but makes us fall over dead in 15 minutes.

>>31170092
tv show based on that premise:

http://www.primewire.ag/tv-2778047-BrainDead/index.php

>>31164931
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyylamo

>>31170059
Brazil is a shithole. Mexico is a shithole. Panama is a shithole. Every south american country is a 3rd world shithole. Their people never advanced on their own and all their tech is trickled down from western countries. I don't mean to go /pol/ on you, but certain factors seem to spawn cultures that are technologically progressive and having either European or Japanese ancestry seems to be a requirement for it. The day Mexico creates high technology on its own will be a massive relief for me, because then I'll know that spics won't be the doom of humanity's chances of getting off this rock.

>>31170077

> humans have a pretty tough immune system
> expose a group of them to a novel pathogen that evolved on the other side of the planet
> all of them die

Biology is weird, man. If you're talking about a microbe that evolved on another world in another ecosystem, then you're in a whole new game. Maybe it wouldn't even recognize you as food. Maybe you'd be made of stuff it couldn't eat. Maybe your immune system wouldn't recognize it as a threat until it ate you down to the bone. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad as an infection but would get into your food supply and contaminate everything like botulinum. There's no way to know.

> we can just splice crocodile DNA and be immune to everything

Niggawat?

>>31164583

>alien space craft hovers around earth
>we send up a human party to see what they want and why they are here, armed with anything that fires armor piercing ammunition
>if negotiations go south, the Russians and Americans will deploy their nuclear weapons all on the aliens spacecraft

>>31170165
>Japanese
Japanese really don't have shit on the Chinese or Koreans as far as historical tech development mate.

>>31170059
>South Americans are sub 80 IQ? Because they're the ones doing the population replacement.

And ALL of South America is a shithole. Some more, others less but compared to the US or any European IQ 100 cuntry, they are total utter shitholes.

>>31170134
Interesting. I actually got the idea from a band called Rings of Saturn. They sing about extra terrestrials pretty much annihilating all humans

>>31170174
>> we can just splice crocodile DNA and be immune to everything
>Niggawat?

Crocs have been found living in basically sewer water with all four limbs and half their tail bitten off by conspecifics and still going strong.

>>31166033
lmao

>>31170174
First off, if it's not a virus, it's not seeing our cells as food. It's seeing our nutrients as food. The water and sugar in our blood and tissues. The question at this point is whether our immune systems see the microbes as enemies or not. They should. Pieces of sterile plastic are still seen as foreign bodies and attacked. So the question is more or less how fast the immune system reacts.

Secondly, many deadly pathogens are only deadly when they reach certain levels of infection. When you say "expose" what do you mean? Human defenses against disease start at the skin and it's a very effective barrier. Then there's the acid in our stomachs and the mucus in our noses. These things all work to slow down the amount of unwanted microbes entering our bodies, so the immune system can deal with the stragglers. E coli on our skin is no big deal, but if you cultivate that shit and inject it into the jugular, then that person is seriously going to die without antibiotic injections.

>>31170077
>That's the real cure to AIDS right there.
No, HIC is a retrovirus that inserts itself into the host's DNA and disables it's immune system. A C(rocodile)IV is quite thinkable and the croc's immune system could do very little about it.

>>31169582
>>31169037
>Aliens find us
>"Oh hey, this species has a history of either conquering or exterminating anything it comes in contact with, better tame or outright purge them before they figure out interestellar travel and become a threat to us."

Simple as that. They wouldn't ignore our existence for long.

>>31170190
How do you figure? WW2 Japan was on par with Europe. They developed their own high technology. Their own planes, subs and boats. All in spite of resource restrictions. China (and the rest of asia) was 99% rice farmers at the time. Such a difference in technology compared to their neighbors was down to culture (nationalisim is like steroids for nations) and potentially genetics.

Hell, Japan maintains a reputation for technological development to this day. How can you deny that they've got a spark that the rest of asia is missing?

>>31170344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QcjsjjtRc

>>31170344
>Japan was on par with Europe
Because they started off by imitating Europe.

>>31170270
No intelligent race that has mastered space travel would be that prone to irrationality caused by fear. You don't commit genocide after a single being attacks you. You do it after repeated attacks, when it becomes clear that what you're dealing with will always attack your kind. Even then, the aliens would surely only attack the specific sect of humans that attack them. It's not like North Korea attacking America would be met with a global invasion by America.

>>31170398
>bein this bleeding heart libruls delusional

a space faring civilization would be like a swarm of lucusts killing anything they can kill and avoiding cultures that can challenge them.

>>31170260
How can it shut off our immune system if our immune system DNA was suddenly crocidilian or otherwise flat out changed?

I also challenge your notion that crocodile HIV is possible by pointing out that they have existed since before the dinosaurs. Crocs have seen it all and been exposed to it all. AIDS would have got them by now if it could.

>>31170458
you are dumb. read up on the mechanisms by which HIV works and what it actually is and you'll understand why you are dumb. wikipedia is enough to educate you.

>>31170344
See >>31170366. They copied Europe starting around WW1; most of their copies weren't all that effective when facing non-antique western designs. Prior to that they were the warmongering assholes of east Asia who didn't create much of anything. The reason China and Korea couldn't industrialize to the same extent during the WW2 era was on account of dealing with Japanese invasions.

Meanwhile China for thousands of years has been a hub of discovery and culture, including /k/'s favorite invention: gunpowder. Korea trashed several Japanese invasions not by force of arms (the warlike Japanese tended to practice fighting more than the generally peaceful Joseon and pre-Joseon era Koreans, who are the country most historically akin to the Gadsden Flag in existence) but by technological prowess with such inventions as the Turtle Ship, Hwacha (world's first MLRS, using arrows), and using cannons and firearms vs Japanese swords and arrows.

China and Korea both have a reputation for modern technological development as well, particularly Korea, in spite of having their country split in half in the Cold War, having to rebuild from a war that took place even more recently than WW2 for the Japanese and Chinese, having had their land stripped of useful resources by the Japanese prior to that, and having less land and resources by far than Japan or China to begin with. Meanwhile China is doing superbly in many regards despite Communism and the devastating effects of both the Japanese rapacity during WW2 and the effects of Mao's policies afterward.

So no, I don't think the Japanese have some special spark that east Asia otherwise lacks.

>>31170513
>inb4 someone claims that successfully invading a country indicates better technology
>because holy shit is there plenty of examples to counter that

>>31170417
It really wouldn't. The distance between planets in our galaxy is truly is mind boggling. The odds of any planet being habitable are worse still. No life form would evolve to be a space locust for that reason and for the next reason.

That reason is science. A race needs to be smart if it wants to go to space. It's not going to evolve spaceships out of its ass. It's going to build them. That requires sentience. A smart race would invariably want to befriend any alien race it meets that can challenge it. It's not like they'll just turn around if they show up and see us. The resources they used for the trip would have been too great for them to simply leave. They'd show up, say hi and keep it at arm's length while they figure out what to do now that the habitual planet they saw through their telescopes from 100000 light years away has evolved aliens with guns on it.

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>>31170583
>A smart race would invariably want to befriend any alien race it meets that can challenge it.

yeah, why in all of the history of mankind have we not been able to befriend other humans? you re the type f retard who looks at nature and interprets what he sees to fit his peacenik beliefs. we are already looking towards the stars seeing the depletion of ressources here. "they" numbering probably in the millions of bns and habitating probably several star systems and artifical celestial bodies could not afford to let anything be wasted on some puny species like us.

>>31170505
You should give a more in depth counter argument than that if you could. "You are dumb pls read wiki" is not a persuasive reply. What makes you think I haven't already read up on diseases, AIDS being one of them? I know for a fact that there is no immunodeficiency strain that affects crocodiles.

You know what? Let me just piss you off now and post a link that you should be the one reading.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-359556/Crocodile-blood-hold-key-HIV-cure.html

It's one of several you can find of you researched the matter. Assuming space age technology includes gene splicing giving humans crocodile immune systems would be the way to go. Even a serum derived from crocodiles could be effective, provided we found a way to make it not attack the rest of our bodies.

>>31170741
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-359556/Crocodile-blood-hold-key-HIV-cure.html


yes, they attack foreign materials more agressively from the beginning and don't have the same humoral, acquired immunity reaction we do. Still, that does not mean they are invulnerable to retroviruses. Jesus, stop getting hyped of popular science pieces.

>>31167231
Kek

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>>31170637
Diplomacy has it's benefits, I assure you. I'm not being liberal so much as I am being smart here. Put yourself in the aliens shoes for a minute and you'll see what I mean.

If they had FTL tech, they'll be arriving at earth before they know humans are here, because we've only been broadcasting radio signals for 70 years and the aliens are likely to be much further away than that at the begging of their trip. They'll see earth as it was hundreds of years ago from their telescopes, when our pretense was undetectable. At most, they'll have a few guns and some missiles. Not enough to conquer the world. They can't turn back. This was a one way colonization trip as far as they're were concerned. They have no choice but to make nice with us and ask politely for the resources they need to either move on or move in.

Our response to that question will be "Say, that's some nice technology you got there. Let us see it and you'll get what you need."

PS. Ringworld sucks dicks

>Sir, this structure is not gravitationally stable. A single nudge would send one side into the sun
>It's got giant rockets, lol
>Sir, aliens could attack it and destabilise everything
>We'll use the sun as a reflected laser
>But won't that only work if the aliens attack from inside the ring?
>The ring has warp drive now, lol.

>>31170784
>Still, that does not mean they are invulnerable to retroviruses

I think you're missing the point I am trying to make about the strength of crocadilian immune systems.

>>31170934
no, you still don't understand the machanisms by which retroviruses and immune systems work.

>>31170866
>At most, they'll have a few guns and some missiles. Not enough to conquer the world.
If they have FTL, all they need is some rocks from saturn or elsewhere and to accelerate them to a fraction of c for moderate kinetic bombardment.

>>31169000
Im now picturing an alien zoo, where they just pick like hundreds of people from around the world and put them into a giant habbitat. Then one day they abudt a "Warrior" as an experiment to see if he takes charge of the human groups and what happens, Resulting in a fully kitted out Navy Seal being dropped in a foreign alien enclouser...

The aliens find it cute the way he lashes out at the feeding drone, and manages to take down a few and star salvaging from them, They also find it cute the way he sticks what they would later find out was Hand-Axe or C4 to the viewing glass as an alien fieldtrip lined up to take photos of him flipping them off with the detonator in hand~

>>31170866
>At most, they'll have a few guns and some missiles. Not enough to conquer the world.
All these assumptions really show a lack of critical thinking. For all you know they might be able to easily combine the Nitrogen and Oxygen in our atmosphere with other trace gases so that we can't breathe, using technology we can't foresee.

>>31171025
>to the viewing glass

..little did the Navy seal nigger know that what he thought of as "glass" was in reality a magnetic field, basically impenetrable by anthing but projectiles going half the speed of light....

>>31170953
Is that all you care about? I do know how immune systems work. This is pointless ad hominem. Semantics. You're one to talk, too. It's not like you'd know how HIV would react to a post human that has been genetically altered with animal DNA, or if it would even react at all.

We're getting side tracked. I don't mean to say whether it definitely would or wouldn't work, either. I just 'think' it would work and that there is something to be learned from crocs. Don't going all naysayer on it like the people who opposed stem cell research.

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>>31171096
>You're one to talk, too.

Yeah, kinda....

>>31170986
The only forms of FTL that this universe permits is the one where velocity is 0. I'm talking about warp drives, of course. They bend space such that it moves you through it like a surfer riding a wave. You can't just attach that tech to a rock, but it wouldn't really work if you aimed it at a planet, either. The warp drive would probably just send the rock THROUGH the planet with no real harm done.

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>>31171152
Again with the pointless character bolstering. An image of a book won't make me take you at your word so much as a compelling counterpoint would. I could go take a photo of my $200 biology book my uni made me get as well, but it wouldn't prove anything. Just explain why you think otherwise next time, instead of acting like Lord Kelvin.

>>31171168
Wut. Unless you are talking about a Einstein-Rosenberg tunnel, AKA a wormhole, that's not possible.

>>31171340
>I could go take a photo of my $200 biology book my uni made me get as well


pls do. but what reassures me in my decision not to waste time on you is that you'd think it's the same as me posting a pic of my mag on a book about how to clone shit...

>>31166136
Would be neat if any invading alien army valued hand to hand combat as a society rather than firearms. Imagine the galaxy span butthurt.

>>31171398
I thimk he means the theory of bending space around the ship so the ship doesnt move, space does. Though last I heard the theory relies on other theoretical particlea and shit.

>>31171050
There's "for all you know" and there's "you can make educated assumptions". Combing all the O2 and N2 would require vast amounts of machinery, energy and time. It's not an efficient reaction. When you think about what it takes to do such a thing, it becomes obvious that attempting it would either expose the alien craft to us, or use machines that are very detectable.

Put yourself in the aliens position again. You weren't really expecting a race as advanced as ours when you first started the journey. Are you really going to send down your atmospheric terraformer with its advanced power source and unprecedented technology for the humans to dismantle and reverse engineer? BEFORE you try diplomacy?

>>31171421
You've already spent like an hour talking with me. One way or another, you wasted time. I at least learned a little more about the robustness of crocodile immune systems.

>>31171482
Why are you assuming we (the aliens who I am in the position of) have to send down anything to accomplish this? We can travel the stars, for all you know we are capable of anything, and any of your "it will happen this way because of" scenarios are pointless as a result.

>>31171515
>You've already spent like an hour talking with me.
i'm on an IB, clearly I have problems - mine is shitposting addiction.

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>>31171398
I'm talking about the Alcubierre warp drive. You probably already know that no body of positive rest mass can accelerate to C, AKA light speed AKA speed of Causality. This is because objects traveling at velocity gain kinetic energy. Having energy makes an object have more mass. A torch loses mass as it shines light and energy in the battery drains. The light leaving the torch is massless, but the energy loss very slightly reduces the torch's mass by something like 0.00000000001%, in accordance with E=MC2.

Conversely, accelerating gives an object mass via the gained kinetic energy. As the speed of C is approached, physics equations dictate that the object will become infinitely massive and require infinite energy to continue to overcome the object's interita. That's just how the universe works. It doesn't let anything with mass speed up to light speed.

However, it DOESN'T forbid 2 "patches" of space from moving faster than light in relation to each other. Distant galaxies already move faster than light speed away from each other as the expanding universe carries them apart. What the alcubierre drive does is make a little patch of the universe want to move in a certain direction, carrying anything in that patch with it. Contracting space in front and expanding it behind a craft will make that region of space want to straighten out, thus creating a moveable "wave" or bubble of space.

Fuck me, this took a while to write.

>>31168989
>it would probably be more realistic to imagine it as cavemen fighting US military. We'd have no fucking chance

Shit, someone better tell isis

>>31169632
Why would interstellar ayys use fission technology? It's inefficient and costly.

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>>31164583
>Implying Humanity will be a united front.

If Ayylmaos did to earth what Euroniggers did to lesser developed peoples of the world in their age of colonialism, we'd stand no chance.

Ayys will just develop third worlders, blame developed worlders all the problems of humanity, and sic high tech nignogs at their asses. Like what Spain and the allied Anti-Aztec Natives did to the Aztecs.

>>31171775
breeding reactors are quite efficient and need to start with some kind of fuel.

>>31169899
So like Predator?

Neat.

>>31171686
And what would happen if the craft in question were to collide with another body of mass? Would the space-time distortion destroy all mass in front of it? If you were going +c would E=mc√ become E=mc√+v?

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>>31169582
>Functionalist perspective babby.

You're not taking into account Ayys may have beliefs like "Mision Civiliatrice" or "CONVERT OR DIE" tendencies.

>>31171893
This. Its possible they are less "Asguard from Stargate" and more "Covenant from Halo"

>>31169358
>he bit the empty hook

>>31171843
Regardless, fusion is a better technology and if they've mastered interstellar travel you can bet they've moved past fission for most propulsion and powerplant systems.

>>31171519
As strange as it sounds, I've watched and read a lot about interstellar travel, various engines and so forth. Plus some physics. I actually do "know" to an extent that certain things are more likely than others.

For example. I know that NASA believes Earth is among the first 6% of habitable planets to form in the Milky Way. This lends to the notion that we don't see alien empires because everyone else is still in the starting gates like we are, technologically. I know that, short of a warp drive, there is no quick way to travel between planets. You can make ion drives, use nukes to propel yourself, antimatter drives or even create a black hole drive if you set up a dyson swarm around your star first, but you'll still be looking at trips that take years and years, even if you use the black hole or antimatter drive to reach 0.8C.

It also takes a lot of energy. There's no free lunches here. Aliens won't just show up with infinite energy sources. The amount of energy required limits how many aliens will make the trip and what they plan to do when they get there. They won't be hauling mined resources back to wherever they came from. Too much energy for just a bunch of rocks. They'll be setting up a colony. Humans are probably something unexpected unless we're talking 200 years from now.

The aliens would likely try to watch us from afar for a while. After that is where I start really speculating. They may decide they want to meet us and say hello. They may want to live on earth. They might just go to set up on Mars and tell us to meet them on their newly claimed planet when we're ready, or to stay the fuck away from it.

>>31172004
>Too much energy for just a bunch of rocks. They'll be setting up a colony.


Exactly, they'll be refugees/colonists leaving their own system, likely sent away/bullied away by their own 1%.

>>31171918
Or just an out of control supercomputer who has no morality and wants to create as many paper cards that say "Welcome to Altair-54! Have a nice day!" as possible, using all resources possible to harvest in the universe.

>>31172004
Without "infinite energy lol" that means ANY sort of fissionable, fusable, reaction mass, ect is FINITE. And history has shown over and over if there are limited resources the competition for them increases. Only the most technological advanced/aggressive species will survive. Nature has shown "survival of the fittest."

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IMO, our best bet would be something like a Barbarossa fuck-up on the ayys part. And that's a big assumption

>The aliens we face are super smart but also super over confident.
>Alien government tells aliens military to invade earth and conquer it in x amount of time, with vague objectives
>Alien military says they'll do it in half that time, because puny humans lol.
>Alien expeditionary force has finite supplies, so it needs to secure a quick victory.
>Aliens invade, underestimating humanity's resilience and savagery.
>We suffer heavy casualties but somehow we fight on.
>They thought we would collapse almost immediately.
>Ayys have advanced weaponry and vehicles but their flaws become apparent in our gravity/atmosphere/enviroments whatever.
>Human adaptability and weapons have the advantage.
>Whats more, alien brutality against humans manages to unite all of us into fighting and defeating them.

We can only pray aliens are this cocky enough to make mistakes. And if they're anything like us, they might be.

>>31172004
>I know that, short of a warp drive, there is no quick way to travel between planets.
That we know of, with the physics we know.

Not saying there IS a quick way or that warp drives are actually possible. But in 100 years we might have an understanding of science that makes feasible, or even easy, what we currently think is impossible.

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>>31172125
BAN THINKING MACHINES!

>>31172144
>>Whats more, alien brutality against humans manages to unite all of us into fighting and defeating them.

Which president used that BS line too again? There is no threat from "the outside" that could make me accept niggers and their likes - get that into your librul shit head.

>>31166190

The Three Body Problem books are fucking excellent, IMO, >>31166095
has some good taste. but to KINDA answer your question - the subject of this thread is more or less the reason they can;t just go anywhere, though you don;t really find out why until the second book in the series, the dark forest.

>>31172203
Ok /pol/, let's be real.

You would rather get enslaved/eaten/exterminated by extraterrestrials than fight alongside some darkies? That's stupid.

I'd imagine we'd see a huge rise in production of bioweapons.

I honestly think out best bet would be to use our own diseases against them and hope they don't carry any worse diseases

>>31172203
>Not using all the africans beaners and muslims as cannon fodder

Think ahead, you idjit.

>>31172234
No, I'd use darkies as cannon fodder while I try to scavenge enough alium tech and collect enough white people stock of my liking to leave this shithole and start again somewhere else.

>>31167481
it's kind of a dumb show, but falling skies actually addressed this point. basically, without "ayylmao rebel" or "another ayylmao CIA selling you weapons," humanity would get rekt like this >>31168841

the only way they win in the show is a fuckton of intervention from other races and "rebels." the show is still pretty dumb tho.

>>31171876
>if you were going +c

You can't ever do that. Not that the warp drive does do that. When in the warp bubble, you are moving at 0km/h. Outside objects retain their velocity as they enter the field. So any space dust that enters the warp bubble will be carried within it for the ride. Rocks can still bump into you pretty hard, but it wouldn't be at super light speed, just regular speeds. It's like riding an unbroken wave. Everything will seem to approach fast, then get carried with you.

The weird stuff happens when the warp drive is deactivated. All the light inside the bubble that travels in the same direction as the ship will become squashed at the front as it tries to escape the bubble and the bubble immediately catches up to it. When the bubble stops, a massive blast of photons would be emitted from the front of the ship. It could be so strong that it would be deadly to anything in front of the ship.

>>31172261
To extrapolate this idea, our best bet is something they have no experience fighting or knowledge of.

That's why they'd need to be very good with pre-invasion recon and intelligence.

But what if they don't have cloaking devices? How would they spy without tipping us off first? They would probably "come in peace" initially and study us. Then they would invade later on. Maybe a false flag attack or something to legitimize their war.

But let's assume they don't have cloaking devices and they don't "befriend" us first and just blindly invade with no forewarning, relying completely on shock and awe to squash us inferior humans. Then we may have a shot.

>>31164717
Oi VEY

>>31172125
Maybe like the BETA. A mining race that lost contact with it's creators and ended up converting half the galaxy into recycled carbon.

>>31166136
I don't care what anyone says, I love Turtledove's books. Timeline-191 is absolutely based.

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>>31172137
That rule doesn't apply to humans anymore, as a glace at the average overweight american will tell you. You also aren't really getting the meaning of evolution, either.

>"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change." - Origin of Species

Adaptability grants survival. The ability to change one's needs. Sometimes when resources are limited, animals don't fight over them. Sometimes they mutually avoid each other and move to new areas. Humans would still be in Africa if all we did was fight over everything that was right in front of us. Pic related.

>>31171893

Look at our own planet. You have some societies that tend towards intellectualism and technological development. You have societies that are, shall we say, fucking savages who can't stop cutting each others' heads off. One of these types of societies tends to place a very high degree of importance on religion. The other is a bunch of godless apostate degenerates. You figure out where these groups line up.

I seriously doubt that any civilization capable of interstellar travel is going to be driven by a set of religious mores stripped right from the Inquisition.

>>31172703
>I seriously doubt that any civilization capable of interstellar travel is going to be driven by a set of religious mores stripped right from the Inquisition.

Linear, positivist perspective of history. Even worse.

Furthermore I wasnt even talking of religion alone. You have countries who believe in "rationality" and "science" and yet force beliefs such as "democracy" or "nation-state" down on people whose cultures wont accommodate these concepts.

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>>31170513
Still, Japanese people are obviously superior to other asians in terms of culture and intellect. If catching up to euro tech was easy, everyone would have done it. The japanese have anime, video games, robots and an army that could beat most of the world, even with article 9 holding them down. They also only lost WW2 because of luck favoring the american navy. Our ships and planes were on par with the americans, but command split up the fleets instead of keeping them together.

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>>31167599
>>31169204
What's funny is that in the manga, this issue is actually addressed. Instead of a helicopter blade, it was fucking huge axe meant to be able to smash open armor that could resist up to 50mm guns. The protagonist even kills himself a few times with the axe because the momentum of the axe could tear apart the powered armor without modifying the armor and sufficient training.

The aliens would most likely fall ill and die from Earth's bacteria and viruses that are harmless to humans.

>>31172810
>"nation-state" down on people whose cultures wont accommodate these concepts
Every culture has some form of Nation-State. Ethnic and kin-based governance is a universal human characteristic. You really need to go back to Anthro 101 before you talk any more.

>>31169204
Today on /k/ spergs out:
>Worse is that it's a fucking helicopter blade, which would just break upon impact and isn't sharp enough to cut through the stuff it was shown cutting.

What we have here is an anon that doesn't realize that helicopter blades can and are sometimes made of steel.

Which can be sharpened.

Unlike this dolt's wit.

>>31172863
Bruh you didnt just lose to luck, we were producing terrifying amounts of war material at the time, like a LOT more than the japs ever could

>>31172144
>We can only pray aliens are this cocky enough to make mistakes

I was going to say this is never going to happen, but everyday every living creature on this planet is making mistakes, especially us humans.

>>31172863
no just no. America had the production advantage and the population advantage, not to mention the local support advantage. None and I mean none of the local Asian population welcomed or like the Japanese due the imperial armies brutality, unit 731, etc.
Secondly americans had a huge production advantage with building boats and planes where the Japanese could build 50 or 100 cruisers we could build thousands look at the production difference in planes alone tells a story. The Japanese built around 800 zeroes we built thousands of fighters.
WE also had radar directed FCS versus the Japanese optical fire based systems it allowed us to fire beyond visual range, and fire at night with a higher degree of accuracy.

>japan lost the moment we won the battle of midway.

>>31172863
>This is a weeb. Study its insanity, know the symptoms.
Are you fucking for real? "Luck?" They got BTFO'd. After Midway the IJN, and the IJA LOST EVERY SINGLE BATTLE.
The JSSDF is National Guard tier at BEST. Dude stop watching GATE for fucks sake.

>>31172144
Turtledove has a whole series of novels about precisely this, alien fleet arrives on earth to conquer, expecting medieval knights. Whoops, it's WWII. Aliens still kick much ass as they have better tech, nukes, etc but it's a struggle.
And the damn humans keep closing the tech gap

>>31172549
>"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change." - Origin of Species
I agree with the sentiment, but that never shows up in the text. iirc, it was something someone said during a lecture in the '60s, about Darwin's theories.

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They're already here.

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why can't we just have sex with them

As a reference, a theoretically massless item has very interesting properties, specifically it exceeds light speed going at infinite, or goes nowhere and is absolute zero amongst others.
The reason for this is much the same as trying to say 0 time when defining a moment, everything as theory goes is to have a positive integer value, if it doesn't things get hilarious.

>>31166136
That was.... kind of furry....

>>31166136
I noticed, by the way, that his short story has in it the third ever manned mars mission... called the Ares III... in a story from 1985...

WHAT THE FUCK, WEIR

Sometimes I worry that Lovecraft was right and there are unspeakable horrors lurking in this incomprehensibly vast universe

>>31177275
>there are unspeakable horrors lurking in this incomprehensibly vast universe
I mean there probably are, but life as we know it succeeds and advances due to cooperation for the most part. Don't worry about.

Frankly, anything biological we can kill with reasonable ease, anything mechanical gets iffy depending on level of tech. Outright Lovecraftian, Great Old Ones divine-tier shit doesn't matter because it most certainly doesn't exist as presented and if it did we'd be fucked no matter what.

tl;dr, don't worry too much about things outside your control and that you can do nothing about.

>>31173044
>Every culture has some form of Nation-State.
Nope.

The fact that you just mentioned
>Kin-based governance.
Negates the whole statement that "every culture has some form of nation state."

Because you have "Nations" that wouldnt unite into "Nation-states" because their tribal/religious/kin association is way more significant to them than the fact that the next territory looks & speaks just like them. Arabs are the biggest evidence for this.

You need to fucking read history. In general.

>>31164583
Gather all the world's nogs in Detroit then air drop the entire world's supply of PCP, crack, liquid coke, crank, sherm stick and Viagra into the middle of them.

Even if these ayyyys are 200 million strong there's not a damn thing they're gonna do without WMDs. They're literally fucked.

>>31179264
>there's not a damn thing they're gonna do without WMDs
>Shove a billion+ ""soldiers"" into single area
>Not using WMDs to fucking reck them all at once
This is the perfect scenario for WMD use

Has no one seen the arrivals.

>with Charlie sheen movies it's possible

Aliens show up, infiltrate, and terraform earth under our noses.
We die off and they win.

Or how about they just sterilize us and wait a few generations.

Or turn us all into traps and fags.

The possibilities are endless.

>>31164652
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>>31169394
on top of that
>in a mongolian basket weaving forum

>>31173074
Then it should be easy for your lackwit self to find me an example of such.

Go on and show me how you're right, we're all waiting.

>>31171447
>My life for Aiur!

>>31177275
>I for one welcome our chaos god overlords.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

>>31164583
REMEMBER THE AYYLAMO!

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>>31180698

>>31164652

If we're the ones who are invaded, we already lost.

The first country who manages to figure out fearsible air travel will be the first civilization to conquer all the others. If they have the tech to travel through the air, they most likely already have far better weaponry than we do, not to mention better tactics since they'd know more than us.

Either way they could just make an FOB on our land, study our country for a few days and, if they deem us too dangerous, bomb the shit out of us from the air before we even realize they're there (even if we did realize they're attacking, they'd most likely use weaponry we can't take down with any kind of defense system).

THEN they invade to pick off stragglers. The end.

>.t 1900 anon

>>31167711
you forget the zulus won the battle but lost the war

>>31167524
The bugs tried that, we just took em out

>>31167250
I know this is gonna come to you as a shock, but space is full of resources just lying around.

Even rare earth metals are abundant in space, fucking hell a single asteroid containing platinum group metals, if brought to earth in tact, would completely tank the precious metals market.

And if they are running out of food space, they can just genetically engineer plants in a mass hab in on a space station or on an empty planet.

>>31181548
Buenos Aires was an inside job.

>>31173007
>manga
>not novel

Fucking pleb

>>31180698
That's what I thought OP meant, then I realized it was just a retarded highschool meme.

I get it, it's just not funny.

>>31170866
>Just walk outside, fire two shots into the air, and walk back inside. The UFO will get spooked and run away, it's universal nature

>>31170232
BE

>>31179617
Bruh it was anime you walnut

>>31169243
>shit propulsion
Wanna know how i know you've never taken a physics course?

>>31169999

Na it's the overall goal of the left to create two types of people in their society.

The Political Elite and the worker drone.

They want a large population of low intellect people that will constantly vote for them because of Gibs.

>>31179352
OP said no WMDs nigger. Besides that nukes don't kill cockroaches.

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>>31164717

>>31167493

Source pls I need a good sex and alien invasion happy ending.

>>31169254
https://eyeofmidas.com/scifi/Turtledove_RoadNotTaken.pdf

its a short read there is no reason not to

>>31183284
He said no WMD SPAMMING, using a handful in a small region hardly amounts to spamming, you retard.

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>>31164583
They would probably chill out of our range but close by in space and just introduce a highly contagious virus that we have never seen before. Wait for the vast majority if not all of us to die off then move in. We would probably not even notice that they exist. We would just think it's some random new virus.