Why did they only send 2 Delta Operators to Benghazi?

>>31147901
No one cared because there was nothing to gain politically from the event. How new are you to America?

>>31148070

Why put 2 delta operators in jeopardy if no one cares otherwise?

>>31147901
If you forgo that shot show of a movie and actually read a fucking book.

They were part of another QRF that was stationed nearby (Tripoli I think). CIA and everybody else was trying to keep this whole thing on the downlow, (hence why they pretty much hijacked a private jet) that's why the marines never left from Germany or whatever

Remember- holistic is not history

>>31148152

They paid 30k cash to take the plane.

>>31148152
Now I'm the tard, shit show. And Hollywood

>terrorist attack happens few months before obonga election
>Clinton gun running

>>31148166

Yes, in the form of, please take lots of cash and take us here.

Also why would they shell a man before throwing him off a building?

>one delta operator was a marine
so that makes zero sense...

>>31147901

>What the fuck happened at Benghazi mang?

Chris Stevens was in charge of a gun-running operation getting Qaddafi's arsenal to Syria to arm "moderate rebels"

Al-Qaeda affiliates in Libya found out about this, and attacked him.

Despite having QRF available to prevent this. Hillary did nothing to save Stevens' life.

Now, the question is, "How did Al Qaeda know Chris Stevens was running guns to Syria"

The answer is, they got tipped off by someone with access to Hillary's email server. So, essentially, Hillary is the one who told them where Stevens would be and what he was doing there.

And then they threw a coptic christian under the bus for making a movie critical to Mohammed, to further a secondary agenda (enforcing islamic blasphemy laws in the united states through outrage)

>>31147901
>Marine Delta commando

Literally what?

>>31148240
Delta recruits from all branches.

He could have been a Marine before joining Delta.

>>31148350
Interesting... I wonder how long they've been doing that, I thought it was exclusively army guys. Of course the other dudes still have to do their operator course id imagine.

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>>31147901
DUDE VIDEO LMAO

>>31148350
He would have had to have gone Marine to Army, which is a fairly commonish transfer before going to Green Beret selection.

It is inaccurate to call him a "Marine Delta", because at that point he is Army, just like the rest of Delta, which is an offshoot of Green Berets.

>>31148369
It is exclusively Army. A Marine can transfer to the Army and then go through the SF pipeline and then Delta if they desire, but it isn't a Marine plucked straight out of the Corps and put into Delta.

>>31148369
Youre trying to make sense of something that officially doesnt exist. Its that complicated

I would be shocked just to even meet one

>>31148395
He could have also been an attachment.

I agree that it's stupid to call him that, I'm just trying to figure out why they'd do that.

Aegis defence, ran by a man called Tim Spicer, was contracted with protecting Benghazi. They subcontracted out to a local group, who fucked up.

Tim Spicer and Bill go way back. A Canadian man called Raymond Boulle had a diamond deal going somewhere that Bill got involved in (it just so happened to be based out of Hope, Arkansas which was Bill's home town) in the 1980s. Spicer ran the security. Aegis defence also support the Clinton foundation, Bill is on the front page of Aegis' website. The woman who is in charge of Aegis' US operations is the wife of the former chair of the intelligence senate committee.

Benghazi was used to arm groups that were in conflict with Al Qaeda, and the US government presence there was pretty much entirely geared up to provide that. It's also what Aegis were helping with, which is why they subcontracted the actual security job.

What I'm getting at here is "fuck you, you aren't going to know, you don't deserve to know, these people are untouchable, fuck you you are nothing"

Sorry.

>>31148395
I don't know, I've heard this story before and they always mention that he was awarded the Navy Cross. I don't see how he could have been awarded that if he was fully transferred to the US Army.

>>31148327
>Chris Stevens was running a gun running op
Sauce? The impression I got from the book didn't quite paint the picture of a gun runner.

So who's fault is Benghazi really?

>>31148438
Then he could have been a Marine on a joint taskforce between Army and USMC. This is also pretty common for joint command areas, especially when specially attached troops from other services have specific skillsets (explosives expert, security expert, dog handler, etc) to augment the pure shooters. In which case he'd be a Marine, not a "Delta Marine Commando".

It's nitpicky, but I really hate when people throw a mismash of operator titles in the air like its all interchangable.

>>31148430
They'll have got a redacted copy of his service record, which shows him enlisting as a Marine and his last posting being for 1-SFOD-D.

>>31148409
>it isn't a Marine plucked straight out of the Corps and put into Delta.
That isn't quite right, but you're correct in saying that he wasn't a Marine at the time. He won't have had a parent unit in the US Army aside for administrative reasons.

Process will have gone something like Delta selection>Continuation training>Signed off USMC>Enlisted US Army (with parent unit assigned for admin reasons), there you go.

How the fuck did he get the NAVY cross and identified as a MARINE if he transferred from the corps to the army? It would've called him a soldier and he would've gotten the army cross...

>>31148490
Since when does Delta pick anybody outside of Green Berets?

He'd have to have gone through the SF pipeline, which would require going Army first, being in the pipeline for the duration, and then going to selection for Delta. At which point he'd have been under the Army for quite some time.

>>31148509
Which is why it's more likely he was a Marine on a joint taskforce, assigned to a Delta detachment for the duration of the taskforce's existence.

In which case he isn't a "Delta Marine Commando", he's a Marine, no Delta about it.

>>31148521
>Since when does Delta pick anybody outside of Green Berets?
Since its formation. Delta doesn't require you to have served with or in the Green Berets.

>He'd have to have gone through the SF pipeline, which would require going Army first, being in the pipeline for the duration, and then going to selection for Delta
All of this is wrong.

Delta do take applicants from across the US military and the USMC have provided more than a few.

>>31148521
>Since when does Delta pick anybody outside of Green Berets?
Since the 75th Rangers, 10th mountain and "open" tryout selection

Generally it's very slim that anyone outside of the 75th or 10th even get chosen but it does and can happen

>>31148148
>News Flash! People are expendable!

>>31148543
Exactly, I think it's intentionally misleading or the author has never served. I'm been attached to plenty of spoopy units but that doesn't make you one of them, you just work for them.

>>31148395

He was in the Marines and had beeb put through the entire Delta pipeline. He was awarded the Navy Cross by the Navy for his actions on that night.

>>31148350
>Delta recruits from all branches.
Delta recruits from the Army, and the Army alone. If you want to switch branches and attend selection, you're free to do so just like any other swinging dick.

>>31148616
>He was in the Marines and had beeb put through the entire Delta pipeline.
Retarded, and wrong.

>>31148521
The lion's share of Delta comes from the 75th. There's also no requirement to go through the SF pipeline. Delta has their own selection and OTC.

Military Police can try out for Delta. They don't give a single shit about what unit or MOS you came from.

>>31148885

What are your opinions on the Revised Improved Battle-sight Zero and general zeroing practices Ricky!! . If you can answer?

>>31148885
Aren't you a little too operator to post here?

No Tier 1 guys allowed in our autism fingerpainting board. Go back and be a salty RRD NCO somewhere else.

>>31148885
>Delta recruits from the Army, and the Army alone

That's funny, didn't know Air force SO was considered Army.

This thread is full of retards who think they know everything about one of the US most confidential SF "units".

Literally nothing anyone says in this thread can be taken as a fact.

But Delta most definitely does recruit from other branches, most of their recruits are from the 75th or the 10th, but they do recruit from the AF.

I suppose delta wouldn't really recruit men from the Marines because the Navy's got DEVGRU, but then again, Delta is extremely confidential so for all we know, they're recruiting men out of the fucking Coast Gaurd.

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>>31147901
>lol just send two people to help
>warrior culture lol
>it's not gay if it's with a battle buddy

>>31148327
>throw him under the bus

They sodimesed his corpse after they drug him out of the building he died in from smoke inhalation. Then they drug his body through the street.

>>31149189

Why the 10th over the 82nd with preference?
Or here is a thought for you autist why either of those over a Pathfinder unit?

>>31149193
Go back to Berkeley.

>>31148327
so does /pol/ now ascribe literally everything bad that happens to hillary, or what

is she the new boogeyman

because president or not, she seems to hold a lot of power over you people

maybe it was a jsoc taskforce stationed in libya but they called it delta for public relations purposes.

>>31149245
>25c has been deposited into your account. Hilldog thanks you for your contribution.

Not that guy. Do you not believe she played a major part in what happened?

>>31148435

>In 2005, following the award of this contract, five United States Senators – Charles Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd and John Kerry – wrote a joint letter[20] calling on Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld to investigate the granting of the Aegis contract describing Spicer as “an individual with a history of supporting excessive use of force against a civilian population” and stating that he “vigorously defends [human rights abuses]”.

>In a December 2005 letter to his constituents, then-U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) called on the Department of Defense to withdraw its contract with Aegis. Obama wrote that “The CEO of Aegis Defense Services Tim Spicer has been implicated in a variety of human rights abuses around the globe ... given his history, I agree that the United States should consider rescinding its contract with his company.”[21]


are you sure they're so in bed with each other?

>>31149299
Im pretty sure the people who attacked the embassy played a much more major part. Shouldve just bombed all the shitskins anyway if you ask me.

>>31149219
Like I said dumbshit, it's Delta. Most everything we know is speculation. I have no clue why they recruit from the 10th over the others. All I know is that they do.

>>31149366

That was more rhetorical and posted as an open question not as an attack.

I do agree with the speculation.

It probably has to do with the mountain environment in conjunction with unknown time/distance marches during the Selection Course.

>>31149318
They weren't there to bomb. Support was needed and they didn't get it. Doesn't matter how high speed you are. If you are out numbered in that capacity the situation is doomed to fail.

>>31149444
>They weren't there to bomb.
I know, im saying we should just drop bombs on those 3rd world shit holes and kill them all.

I wasnt talking about the deltas. IM just talking about shit skin genocide.

>>31149245
Who was the head of the State Department at the time?

>>31149407
I feel bad for acting like a dick now...

>>31149565

No worries man.

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>>31149245

how else are they going to get that sort of information?

Hillary transmitted classified data through a compromised server that was being monitored by the Russian and Chinese governments, a Romanian hacker, and who knows who else? It's reasonable to assume that Al Qaeda's allies or someone who thought Al Qaeda could be useful, could have had access to the server and tipped them off. It would be reasonable to suspect the Russians of doing so, because disrupting the gun-running operation benefits their allies in Syria.

However, that still doesn't explain why she chose not to send a QRF to bail out Stevens despite his managing to hold on for 8 hours before finally succumbing to the assault. Assuming there was no specific malice on Hillary's part, it is still an unfathomable amount of negligence and incompetence.

>>31149189
Please go ahead and tell me how you know they recruit from the AF, since I have never once meant someone from another service in the unit.

I understand you're a SME and aren't just pulling these suppositions out of your ass, right? It's also not like I've been in the SOF community for well over a decade, have worked directly alongside Delta, or involved in the sorts of things you're speculating about like a dumbass.

And just FYI, they don't recruit more out of the 10th than they do any other unit - they send a recruiter, you watch a video and a PowerPoint, those interested ask some questions and it's done. This happens Armywide, the same way it happens for other SMUs you've never heard of.

Otherwise feel free to shut the fuck up because you're spewing absolute stupidity out of your cock holster.

>>31149193

There's truth to this statement, no military in the world will send just one person.

These 2 guys just happened to be the closest available resource and the US military didn't want to seem like vaginas so why not send 2 delta operators?

>>31149252
Both are verified as members of Delta, the marine delta commando has not been identified, nor has the the rescue effort leader (who was rumored to be a CIA SAD guy).

They gave the highest medal offered by the CIA to the station chief and he hasn't been named, he also didn't pick up a rifle all night.

Props to the DSS guys, they were way in over there heads.

>>31149444

So why send 2 guys?


lololol tier 1 elite


Weren't all the GRS security contractors all tier 1 guys?

>>31151302
Why do you always respond to the troll posts instead of cyber circle jerking with your fans ;^(

>>31151302

just awkwardly jumping into the conversation here... why did he get the Navy Cross? if he was a former Marine who ended up in the Army and Delta, he'd get the DSC. so was he attached, or maybe doing an exchange?

i mean, i know there are Army dudes out there with Marine combat patches because they deployed as support for the Marines...

>>31151323
>Both are verified as members of Delta
Confirmed where. Literally this bullshit or a Marine in Delta came from a Washington Times article that had zero fucking sources.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/16/delta-force-marine-awarded-navy-cross-fight-cia-an/

That shit spread to Facebook where it took off. There is literally nothing confirmed about it.

>>31150398
would you say it was gross negligence in the way she stored the server? because the FBI conveniently disagree :^)

>>31151345
Because he's a huge faggot who's only where he's at from sucking SF cock.

>>31148070
What? Repubs started the investigation that found Clinton's server over the Benghazi coverup.

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Is it true that Libyans were triggered by a $12,000 movie made by a porn director?

Is that the cheapest weapon in all of existence?

How else could we trigger them?

>>31151345
I post to spread knowledge, correct disinformation, and hopefully to put people on the right track if this career is what they want for themselves. I don't concern myself much else when there's outright stupidity being stated like fact.

>>31151363
Because the individual in question was a Marine. Refer to this: >>31151379
The fact that he was with a Delta operator doesn't mean he's part of Delta. Some retarded reporter doesn't quite understand/give enough fucks about this to write an accurate piece - which is why you have all this retarded and unwarranted speculation.

>>31151448
Great counter - not only does it not make sense, it really helps bring out the fact your a clueless little bitch. Did I make your vagina sting?

>>31151538

OK, so is it fair to assume he was attached to or on an exchange assignment with Delta then?

Are exchange assignments common in the Spec Ops world? Not just an exercise or two, actually having a non-American do secret squirrel stuff with you or vice versa. Because in the aviation world it's actually pretty common. I know a few Brits and Aussies who fly with the US, and a few guys who've flown with the Brits/Aussies.

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Why is no one talking about the actual purpose of the Benghazi outpost?

Smuggling weapons to fuel the Syrian civil war covertly is pretty damn tarnishing on the HIllary State Department.

>>31151538
Can a person with amblyopia join the 75th?
Do I have to get a medical waver or be a PT stud or something?
How often are rangers wearing glasses?

>>31149203

Source?

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>>31151302
>>31151302
I'm finding it, with every post you make, harder to believe you do have the shit you say because posts like this.

>I've never seen it so it doesn't exist!

Lol. And you've suposedly been in the SOF community for over a decade? I'd hope to God, you're just trying to be a shitty troll, because, there is and have been AF who have went Delta.
And I'd just like to point out that if you are SF, like you prance around pretending to be hot shit, then why are you losing your shit over an anonymous's (objectively wrong, I'll give you that) posts on a Taiwanese shitposting forum.

Holy fuck, I hope to God the rest of the SF community isn't as big of sperglords as you are. Like Jesus Christ man, if you're really SF than I'd hope to God you'd have better control over your emotions, espically over an anonymous post.

>>31151590
The US Army sent observers to Malaysia in the early to mid 60s. The first reason they were there was to evaluate field performance of the AR15, which British troops had been using since 1962. The second was to consult the four man brick patrols that had been going into Indonesian territory. There was an American exchange officer at the time, too.

In 1967 the SAS had two American exchange officers, one of whom accompanied them to Aden (against the wishes of the Pentagon). He later was a founding member of Delta Force. The latter was somewhat less radical and more straight laced, but still an excellent officer. No serving British troops were in Vietnam, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

British observers were present for Waco (they had come over from Fort Bragg) and during the 1980s and early 1990s sent four and eight man teams into Colombia.

Various operations were conducted in the Gulf and throughout the War on Terror between US, Canadian, British and New Zealand forces.

>>31151538
Are all SF as salty and immature as you?

>>31151791

Old timer, is that you?

>>31151741
he's a verified ranger you gigantic faggot, been posting here for years. easily one of the best trips on this terrible board.

fucking newfags, man

>>31151538
>calls anon a bitch
>proceeds to throw a bitch fit

Stay booty blasted, buddy.

>>31151590
>OK, so is it fair to assume he was attached to or on an exchange assignment with Delta then?
Not something that I would be in a position to comment on.

>Are exchange assignments common in the Spec Ops world?
Somewhat, CAG and DEVGRU both send their folks to do stints with one another. SF also does it with other branches. For us it's not super common, but it does happen.

>Not just an exercise or two, actually having a non-American do secret squirrel stuff with you or vice versa.
Outside of task force related stuff it's not very common. Iraq was probably the closest level of cooperation between us and foreign SOF. Training wise, exchange programs do exist though.

>>31151653
Something you'd have to talk with a recruiter about - can't answer that for you. There are Rangers who wear glasses, but you'll get fast tracked for PRK if your vision is correctable (what I did).

>>31151741
>Comparing your level or ass hurt to the level of fucks I give.
Just because I called you a fucking moron, which you are, doesn't mean I care. I'm just not going to bother with nicities when I tell you you're fucking stupid - get over it. Also, I am not SF, nor have I ever claimed to be SF.

But please, show me someone in the Air Force who is a member of Delta. I cannot fucking wait. Attatched CCTs/PJs/SOWT don't count as Delta, just as a reminder.

>I have never once...
Having friends in the unit, working with them, etc - for over 10 years - is a fair comment to make based on your stupid post.

So once again, let's see it.

>>31151920
>newfag

I know who Ricky is and I know he's legit., and I use to love when he'd pop into threads, but the last few times I see him, he's throwing tantrums like a toddler over a few troll posts.

>>31151614

Is there something wrong about this?

>>31151949
>>31151791

Thanks for letting me know about exchange stuff. It's always interesting to see how other corners of the military do stuff.

>>31152012

(except for finance and personnel. they can suck a fat one.)

>>31151949
Bruh, ignore the trolls man, you're not going to win.

But anyways, I've always wondered, how often do Rangers actually get into Delta, I've got a buddy who recently went to RASP and he thinks he's got a huge chance at delta.

>>31151919
Yes.

I shouldn't be awake at this time, because I'm prone to banging my feet on things in the dark and losing my glasses, but I have to fly to lovely Florida in the morning and I have decided to sleep on the plane.

>>31152012
Back then it was virtually exclusive to officers. Now it's a lot more widespread through the ranks.

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>>31152056

Sell me your Denison smock?

I figure this is as good a place to ask as any, and not to get too conspiratorial, but didn't the Obama administration essentially try to bring the Muslim Brotherhood into power during the Arab Spring?

I mean that was the purpose in Egypt, Libya, and Syria, right? Try to help the "nice" Sunni Islamists take over?

I don't want to get too far into the far-right fever swamps, but our foreign policy there really only makes sense from that perspective.

>>31152637
>I figure this is as good a place to ask as any, and not to get too conspiratorial, but didn't the Obama administration essentially try to bring the Muslim Brotherhood into power during the Arab Spring?

Well they did, at least in Syria.

They used the Muslim Brotherhood to incite revolution against Assad among rural Sunnis.

The entire war was engineered by Hillary's State Department and the bitch will be handed the presidency this November.

>>31151949
Thanks

>>31151382
Doesn't matter if the FBI considers it gross negligence or not to the Hackers that got all that classified data on her unclassified server.

>>31148203
Why would you shoot a man before throwing him from a plane?

>>31148350
CAG is army...he may have been in the Marines at one point...CAG and group is all Army.

>>31148490
But that's wrong, they don't just let other branches go through selection courses. He would have got out the Marines and enlisted in the Army and go through that whole pipeline.

>>31148327
10/10 post

Ignore the hillshill and MAGA brother!

>>31147901

It was a complete breakdown of military and political leadership and communication.

By the time they were sure there was an attack taking place, they attampted to get a hold of USN assets in the Med, as well was QRFs in Italy and Germany.

The units in Italy and Germany wouldn't be ready for damn near a day, USA assets were too far away to assist and were not prepared to launch sorties to assist the defense of Stevens.

There was an attampt to contact the Libyans, and the Libyans assured they would help defend the consulate, but the issue then became that militias and national security units in and around Benghazi were on the verge of mutiny anyway, and completely ignored calls from the Tripoli government to assist Stevens.

SOF units were deployed to Iraq and Syria, unable to assist in a timely manner.

The Fog of War was intense, and the entire US military and Political structure was caught with its pants down.

>inb4 b-b-but Stevens asked for more help!

Risk management, they didn't have the money or people to staff every facility fully, so they staffed what they thought would be the most critical, and while the Embassy in Tripoli was, the Consulate in Benghazi was not.

>>31154001
>SOF units were deployed to Iraq and Syria, unable to assist in a timely manner.

This just in there are more places SOF work out of around the world... especially much closer places. Biggest thing I like to point out is how did a Pred with its limited range and speed get overhead for so long (and which base did it come from) and yet there was no additional assets available.

>>31154001
Nah, they have units that would be there in two hours tops


This was called off and pussy footed around by the Clinton helm, leadership.

>>31148327
>>31150398
>>31153338
All of the claims made in these posts need to be backed up by reputable sources. Link them.

I think Hillary is absolutely disgusting and I want to believe it but if you have something substantial and can cite good sources then you can be believed. Until then you're hobo-tier levels of credibility, these are some wild claims being made.

>>31154665

all their proofs are Alex Jones' ramblings and tampered russian "hacked" emails, edited by the "hackers" and paid by Trump's bff Putin

Hillary is a crooked she-lizard, but it baffles me that a large part of this shithole and /pol/ thinks a narcissistic NY billionaire known for lying half the time he opens his mouth has any shred of honesty and credibility

>>31154711
That's my primary issue, I'd love to beat the Hillary shills over the head with some facts until they wake up a little bit. Unfortunately separating something I can use from something that will blow up in my face, and simultaneously make them crawl further up her ass, is almost impossible given the propensity for the "anti-Hillary" crowd to be "insane and also pro-Trump."

So fucking goddamn frustrating.

>>31154271
>>31154241

But that has been completely refuted by the multiple extremely thorough investigations done.

>>31154968

Remember, the silent majority fucking hates both of them.

That's what I find interesting, go out onto the street and find normal folks at the store without political bumper stickers that actually like either one.

Most people can't fucking stand our choices this round.

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>>31154665
You eat the poo poo. You want everything spoon fed to you? Want to correct the record™?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/20/hillary-clinton-state-department-approved-us-weapo/

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/tag/hillary-clinton-email-scandal/

I'll let you dig deeper into Benghazi yourself. Just for extra juice, you could look up the DNC leaks (and the various personnel who've died under mysterious circumstances), Soros leaks, and the recently declassified '28 pages' of the 9/11 commission report.

>>31154711
Ignore this shill. Definitely don't deserve dubs

>>31155060
>You eat the poo poo. You want everything spoon fed to you? Want to correct the record™?
Burden of proof is on you, end of fucking line. If you sound like a raving lunatic don't get pissy because people don't believe you, that's *your* fault and your responsibility.

Thanks for the three links.

>>31155037
Problem is most of those same people say "lol I'm not gonna vote~" or they're voting for one of the major candidates on a single issue or because they don't like the other one a teensy bit more. I'm not some card-carrying libertarian but I'm voting Johnson this time around, and I find it's exceptionally easy to get people to say they like him more than Hillary or Trump when I explain his positions.

Hell, Jill Stein is an alternative if they're hardcore lefties. I argue for her (even though I don't like her) and can convince people once I get them to thinking but that's the real bitch of it: people aren't thinking. They accept everything is terrible and aren't considering their options, of which there are many.

>>31155060

Definitely not him but

>UN bans arms shipment to Libya to prevent the government from getting support
>US gives weapons to support the enemy of my enemy, which happens to be in the country that is banned from arms imports

Fast forward

>US unfriendly regime is locked in a civil war
>US tries to tip the balance against the regime by supplying rebels woth weapons

I really don't give a shit how either one worked out, disorganized assholes in Lybia is better than an organized anti-US regime, same in Syria. I'll take IS over Assad, because we can go in and clear out IS anytime we want with no backlash, whereas Assad still clings to legitimacy backed by the Russians.

Same thing in Ukraine, I can't blame Russia for snaking Crimea and giving rebels weapons, I just think we should be giving the Ukrainians a lot more shit to superkill the rebels. I wouldn't be against a US backed intervention in Ukraine, I'd fight for them.

It's purely business, man. Morality is dead in international affairs. You can do good once you win, right now we're trying to win.

>>31155005
I was literally on a plane flying to Camp Lemmonier for the duration of the attack. We found out about it after we landed and we had to turn right around and go back to Sig that we had flown out of.

Planes from Aviano could've been in AOR realistically at about 3 hours. Planes from Souda Bay could've been there within 1-2 hours depending on Assets at the base or if Greeks were asked to help.

>>31147901
Didn't they defy orders and go there departed being told not to.

>>31155192

Thousands of pages of reports spread out over years > your bullshit anecdotes

>>31155130

Yeah I'm hardly Libertarian, but I am a firm believer that if you don't vote, you can't bitch. I'm voting Johnson for the same reason.

>>31155243

Enjoy your crusade while stealing votes from the only guy (right or wrong) who can actually beat Hillary. Hope your conscious is all warm and fuzzy when your paycheck is taxed into oblivion and you can't buy ammo because it's been banned.

Fucking idiots

>>31155218
Most of those reports rely on the incompetence of Italians for the sake of re-fueling operations at NAS Sigonella due to union workers on the joint base when the refueling would be done by USAF/USN personnel who had just prior been dealing with thousands of sorties during the Libyan Campaign that was flown from that very same base. It also cites multiple times lack of aerial refueling (which there is always one on standby/airborne for that entire area per SOP), yet no clearances or attempts to contact NATO nations for re-fueling assist were made.

The lack of Military assets was primarily because no body wanted to pull the trigger and possible blow the situation up bigger than what it initially appeared to be, especially with the lul in the fighting between the Consulate Attack and the Annex Attack. The general thinking was that the worst was over and the incident had passed. That line of thinking instead of getting assets in theater and ENSURING the incident was contained lead to the conclusion that we received.

The whole situation was a collosul fuck up because no body wanted Black Hawk Dawn MkII and treated it like another Rwanda.

>>31155288

I can't vote for Trump. I hate him. I'd prefer to actually vote for someone I don't hate.

>>31149299
I didn't hear you getting buttblasted about the secretary of state when ever other fuckup occurred in the last 20 years.

>>31155329

So continue to ignore reality and send the country down the tubes because "you hate him"?

Pretty fucking selfish, ain't you? Why not think about everyone else's future too?

>>31155288

>Trump
>"can actually beat Hillary"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you know, the GOP had the perfect chance. 8 years of Obummer, and a corrupted candidate that's widely despised by her own party and the country,

And they went with the small fingered, blow hard demagogue, obnoxious idiot who changes his "views" depending on the temperature of the day. The one moron who made Hillary look like the sane option

Amazing

>>31148395
Delta is an offshoot of green berets?

I know almost nothing

>>31155363

>advocating voting for a fucking idiot who routinely loses his temperament simply because of the muh shillary will take muh guns boogeyman

how fucking selfish

>>31155322

Years of reports and investigation, millions of dollars spent.

Hillary had nothing to do with it. Like I said, an insanely dense Fog of War combined with poor force readiness and demoralized leadership led to a complete breakdown in the ability to save those people.

I only hope that we learned from our mistakes, and something like that doesn't happen again.

That being said, Stevens was advised against staying in Benghazi, as they couldn't guarantee his safety. He stated that his popularity among the people was high (he wasn't wrong) and that they would protect him (which was innaccurate). What us interesting is that those people did burn down the militia and jihadist outposts due to the attack.

>>31155363

it's going down the tubes either way.

we're crashing this country.

>>31155363

>trashing your entire country's reputation and superpower status because you want less taxes

Selfish, huh?

Have fun when NATO implodes and the dollar is useless. I'm planning on joining the CAF if he's elected, my grandparents live in Vancouver and the MOS I'm qualified for us in short supply there, meaning open to American applicants.

>>31155428

but didn't you hear? we just got bad DEALS. Trump is going to come in, use his amazing dealing skills and get us the best, the most tremendous deals, he will make every country on Earth pretty much give us free money, believe me, we'll be so rich we're going to be shitting gold

>>31155397
Never once in my post have I stated Hilery or her involvement in the Attack. I have simply been stating assets that were capable and able to reach in time if proper channels and plays were utilized instead of "hoping for the best".

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>>31155130
lol

Part of the issue with digging into Benghazi is that most of the people who care about it are sources that you'll probably object to. For instance, Breitbart or other right wing biased outlets. Why that is worse than an """"objective"""" source like Reuters, AP, NY Times, or some others who fall somewhere between good shitlib social democrats and communist apparatchiks, I don't know.

>>31155184
>t. someone who can't realpolitik

Look, that's great and all. I'm all for an American empire if it wasn't a massive tumor. We have so many problems demographic, economic, structural, whatever, that it's difficult to go into in the character limit here. Suffice it to say that we're only on top right now because Europe are more concerned with chasing gibsmedats and our best rivals, China and Russia, suffer similar and in some cases worse issues compared to what we have.

Ask yourself this: how is this country going to be able to maintain a ramshackle empire running around haphazardly in every corner of the globe when it imports people from every corner of the globe? Worst, when the Muslim population, many of them specifically Western Asian and North African, is exploding well above 3%. No one has accurate data on the exact numbers of Muslims living here because the number of illegals here by way of visa overstays... i.e. visas are no longer enforced. The 9/11 hijackers were here illegally on expired visas and the feds knew it, but didn't bother to enforce it.

>>31155450
>Shitting gold

Do gallstones count?

Because I was supposed to have my gallbladder removed on sunday but my surgery was moved to wednesday next week

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>>31155450

Kek. I like you.

>mfw Trump got shitty deals on extremely high interest junk bonds to build his Atlantic City empire which promptly collapsed within half a decade

Protip: don't buy competing businesses and advertise against each other

He's not even a fucking billionaire.

>>31151302
When are you gonna apply for Guiness BoWR's 100 full-stroke push-ups in less than 60 seconds?

You gotta be up to at least 108 by now.....

>>31155517

>MUH IMMIGRANTS
>MUH MOOSLIM TURRISTS

dismissed

>Lolbertarians still thinking they will be relevent in any way, ever
Looks like years of getting BTFO on both /k/ and in life just were not enough.

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>>31152040
>I've got a buddy who recently went to RASP and he thinks he's got a huge chance at delta.
That'll end after he starts getting annihilated once he gets to his platoon. Passing RASP, while an accomplishment, is infinitely small one compared to what he'll be doing - a fact he probably hasn't realized at this point.

Thriving in Batt is not something that comes naturally. He's going to be getting smoked a lot, his ass beat a fair amount, and will be tested by his peers and leadership every day until they judge him competent. Even getting into specialized sections in Batt (recce, dog, SNOT, etc) is a whole different story. It's usually at that point that it dawns on people fairly quickly that just getting into the club does not mean you're shit.

Do Rangers make up the majority of Delta? Yep. But that doesn't mean a lot of Rangers will end up there - most Rangers will never attend a selection; those who do, usually fare well because they've developed good habits and soldiering skills here. Aside from that, not everyone wants to go - some folks would rather go RRC (or some other SMU), a lot just enjoy being a Ranger on the line (or in a specialized section in Batt) and will ride it out as long as they can, some have experienced the kind of optempo we've had in the GWOT and decided that Big Army or civilian life is better for their family needs.

Your friend's assumptions are probably going to be shattered. Either way it's a plus for him, because a good wake up call never hurt anybody. Hopefully he'll be motivated and let some very experienced folks mentor him into becoming a good Ranger, or he'll decide this isn't for him.

>>31149189
>>31151741
So, five hours later, still no source for the
>AF SPEC OPS CAN JOIN DELTA GUIZ!
claims?

>>31155517

>imports people from around the globe

t. Someone who doesn't understand American immigration

My wife is from Hong Kong, I met her when deployed to Japan, love her to death, greatest person I've ever met, anyway.. we have been married 6 years, and she STILL isn't an American citizen. We've been back in the states for 5 of those 6 years. It is absolutely insanely difficult to become a US citizen, or even permanent resident. If we go a divorce tomorrow, she'd probably have to go back home.

>>31155576

my dad was from HK and needed to wait damn near 20 years for his citizenship. my mom got her citizenship in about 2 because she's an Australian citizen. dad started a successful medium-sized business. contributed to the local economy, manufactured clothes in America, employed hundreds.

and maybe that's partly why there are so many illegal immigrants.

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>>31155517
To continue, that bit there is 'just the tip.' The feds are having constant budget shortfalls because of demographic changes, off shoring, corporate tax sheltering, and rampant fraud and tax evasion (which are becoming larger problems with more low trust people).

You have to have a realistic plan for how we can cut this current elite off, place new blood in power, and purge the xenos. That is the only way an American empire will work. In fact, that is the only way America works. Otherwise, we are better of letting this fall by the wayside and laughing as the feds try to rule from among the ruins. We shall meanwhile RIDE THE TIGER.

>>31155426
>crashing this country
With no survivors?

>>31155498

Again, I think you're drastically overstating our readiness at the time. The US was in the middle of one of the largest drawdowns in history. Nobody was ready for or expecting an attack. Maybe, MAYBE if we immediately realized what was happening and immediately started scrambling everything and everything went perfectly, they would've survived, but we simply weren't ready for any of it. It's nobody's fault really, shit just happens sometimes, and people die.

I just really don't think that we need to find someone to blame. I think everyone did the best they could with what they had, and I think some exceptional people made exceptional efforts, but unfortunately they were killed, and I pray every day that the families of those we lost can find peace.

>Hillary

I mistook you for someone else then, my mistake.

One Week in Trump's Life

>Ok I will deport all illegal immigrants, all 11 million of them!
>lol jk, I am willing to soften that policy. I'm willing to work with them towards a solution
>lol nvm, I won't work with them at all, no path to ciizenship. I won't deport them tho.
>lol whooops, I guess I changed my mind again. Back to my original plan. I will deport them all!

yeah, a conman who flip flopped about 4 times in a single week (and denied using a quote, even when he was literally recorded saying it, he straight up denied it) he sure oozes integrity.

>>31155576

Trumptards don't know how reality works other than what their Oompa Loompa Leader (RIP Gene) tells them to think

And most don't even give a fuck about his policies or anything regarding his ability to, you know, preside

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/29/491737744/for-some-trump-loyalists-it-s-personality-over-policy?sc=17&f=1001&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

they just like him because he represents the daddy they still miss, the strongman that will deliver them from the ebil mooslims and icky things

>>31155428

Your priorities are fucking stupid.

>NATO

We foot most of the bill, and the rest of them do fuck all. Fuck them.

>Superpower status

Oh noes, all of our aircraft carriers and nuclear weapons will go away! What do we do?! Superpower status isn't a fucking box to check, it's a status achieved by political influence and military strength. Obama has already largely eroded it, Trump can't make it worse. Clinton can and WILL.

And yeah, run away to Canada like the fucking coward pussy that you are.

>>31155379
>>31155426
>>31155396

Advocating voting for the only TRUE option to beat Hillary doesn't mean I support or even like Trump. Personally can't stand him due to recent events, but if you think Hillary will be better, you're out of your god damn mind.

If saying "Well dont blame me, I voted for some nobody who never had a chance!" in a superior tone makes you feel less shitty knowing you did effectively nothing to prevent another Clinton presidency, then so be it, but don't pretend like you're not coping out because you dont have the mental strength or wherewithal to do what must be done. Thanks in advance for giving up.

>>31155606

Yeah, we really need to fix that. We need to make it easier for legitimately good people who WANT to be Americans become Americans. Seriously, 6 years and tens of thousands of dollars, and I'm being told that we're about halfway through. It's crazy.

>>31155243
My main issue with Trump isn't the fact that he's an actual retard or clearly doesn't understand foreign affairs, but instead it's his track record of big government Democrat bullshit. As far as I'm concerned he's just like Hillary, only less popular with the establishment because they already picked her for a candidate but perhaps he's turned out to be a useful idiot after all.

>>31155288
You are literally the fucking problem I was talking about here: >>31155130
"Bet on my horse because the other one is worse!" What a completely stupid argument, go fuck yourself.

>>31155517
>Why that is worse than an """"objective"""" source like Reuters, AP, NY Times, or some others who fall somewhere between good shitlib social democrats and communist apparatchiks, I don't know.
See this post because apparently reading is hard: >>31154968
>Unfortunately separating something I can use from something that will blow up in my face, and simultaneously make them crawl further up her ass, is almost impossible
Your sources aren't meant to convince me. They're meant to convince the Hillarian barbarians and people like the dipshit above who votes because X is supposedly worse than Y.

If so many people supposedly don't like the primary candidates then why are they voting for them? Pick a random ten people and you'll find one or two honest-to-god kool-aid drinkers, the others just think there's no other choice.

>>31155656
and a large part of the problem is that the people who go "dem illegals id takin our jerbs" don't understand what it's like to actually try to immigrate here.

>>31155652

>Clinton will
>Trump CAN'T

you're too stupid to talk to.

>run away

I'd rater serve a country that WANTS me. What the fuck kind of respect do I even get here anymore? Everyone hates each other, nuance and moderation is dead here. I'd rather live a happy life there than fight a losing battle against stupidity and extremism here.

>>31147901
This thread sounds a lot like a republican attacks on our future president

>>31155652

>missing the baneposting

>>31155625

THE FIRE RISES, BROTHER

>>31155652

the US can survive 4 years of Clinton.
but 4 years of Trump? give me a fucking break.

>>31155688

Yeah, I don't even understand how people grew up this dumb. I am a product of public school, and I simply can't grasp how so many of my peers are so fucking dumb.

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>>31155184
>I wouldn't be against a US backed intervention in Ukraine, I'd fight for them.
for what reason would you fight for _them_?

>It's purely business, man.
gee..... I wonder who could be behind this lightpost.

what does this picture show you?

>>31155569
There's already enough evidence that one of the guys there was a Delta Marine who got the Navy Cross

I don't know why you're throwing a shit fit thinking there can't be Delta AF when evidence already proves otherwise

>>31155732

a shitty shop

>>31155329
>I can't vote for Trump. I hate him. I'd prefer to actually vote for someone I don't hate.
Not him, but I bet youre a woman.
>M-MUH FEEELSSSSSS~!

>>31155732

A white man impotently tugging at a large black man's tie while looking at the floor ashamed

>>31155772
see
>>31155748

you guys need glasses

>>31155667

Real life isnt like your Poli sci classes bud, voting for the less of two evils is how the world works. I used to think like you, then my votes for Paul didn't do SHIT (obviously lol who the fuck am I kidding?) and I grew the fuck up.

>Options

Get the fuck over yourself. Your opinion of people isn't tempered by reality at all. All the people you "get to admit" that Jill Stein is better than Hillary don't actually give a rat's ass, and are humoring you because you're likely an overbearing dick and they want you to go away so they can enjoy their beer. In one ear, out the other.

Don't give me that bullshit that the third party option can have a chance at winning if we just 'raise awareness.' Most people are too busy putting bread on the table to consider fucking "options" because they're getting their asses fucked by taxes and healthcare costs. Get a life and realize that most people dont or can't consider politics seriously for any amount of time, accept it, and accept that you voting you conscience only serves a selfish goal of alleviating guilt at having to actually make a decision.

>>31155757

Both of them are terrible for the country.

If enough people didn't think in an us v them mentality we could get Johnson in the main debates, and he'd probably win.

>>31155789
Johnson is an idiot who is only slightly better off than clinton
>supports blm
>antigun vp
Wow, what a deal

>>31155781

>not getting the joke

Don't worry, I'm just pretending to be retarded. I love you.

>>31155799

Yeah, and how fucked up is it that he's better than the other two?

>>31155799
Who cares about an antigun vp? Of Hillary and Johnson who do you think will appoint more pro-2A supreme court judges? If Hillary had her way the supreme court would rule like it was the 9th circuit.

>>31155698

>This whole post

My god you sound like a fucking waste of life. Kill yourself, pronto.

>Waaaaah, what kind of respect do I get?!?

Respect is earned, not given, pussy. Please leave the US, you're right, we don't want your weakness here.

>>31155832

Okay. I'll enjoy my SVT-40s and free healthcare.

>>31155832
time for another 100 years of expeditionary wars for israel
thanku for your serbis :^D

>>31155826
>Of Hillary and Johnson who do you think will appoint more pro-2A supreme court judges? If Hillary had her way the supreme court would rule like it was the 9th circuit.
Only slightly better than hilary is what I said.
>>31155824
Any republican >>>>>>>> Gary Johnson >>>>> hilary

>>31155846

Typical, boils down to the free shit and "at least I get my obsolete bullshit slavshit." Good riddance. I'll enjoy my AR-15 and 'literally best on planet earth, so good, that world leaders from all over the world come here' healthcare, that I don't mind paying for with my hard earned money because I am entitled to nothing and must earn everything. Its called American values.

>>31155898
>Only slightly better than hilary is what I said.
You weren't specifically talking about judicial appointments. Hillary has literally taken the unprecedented step of declaring she will only appoint judges who "pledge" to overturn Citizens United. Judges pledging to a fucking politician. There's no way her picks will be unbiased or reasonable.

Johnson, on the other hand, is a libertarian who fully supports gun rights. So he will probably appoint judges who are supportive of individual constitutional liberties. At the very least he won't actively try and stuff the court with liberal activist judges.

>>31155908
>American values
Mr. Hughes destroyed those a long time ago.

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>>31155544
Muslims don't ever explode do they? eat a dick, nigger

>>31155972

about as often as irishmen do.

>>31155965

I'm not following

>>31156013
I was referencing the Hughes amendment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#Ban_on_machine_guns

>>31151952

Haha good troll, man. High five!

>>31156037

I thought that or Howard Hughes because I still am not seeing your point

>>31156069
You were talking about enjoying your gimped semi-auto AR-15 and claiming it represents "American values." I was implying it doesn't fully encompass American values unless you had the freedom to make it select fire.

>>31155569
Literally just Googled "does Delta recruit from other branches" and pretty much every result said yes. They don't actively recruit from other branches, but it does happen.

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>>31147901
I wouldn't screw with that guy though.

>>31156085

The bolt carrier is an M16, not a neutered one, so all id have to do is install a sear and new trigger/hammer setup. Not within my abilities ATM but doable nonetheless. You saying you'd take an SVT-40 over an AR?

Ever heard of the fox and the grapes? That's you

>>31156176
No, I'm not saying I'd take the SVT-40 over the AR-15. I'm not that Canadian dude that was bragging about it.

>>31148415
Are you fucking retarded?

I mean shit, their headquarters address is publicly listed even.
>it's on Butner Road at Ft. Bragg
They don't call it Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta (SFOD-D) for no fucking reason.

>>31155785
>Real life isnt like your Poli sci classes bud, voting for the less of two evils is how the world works.They didn't offer political science classes back when I was getting my degree, so go fuck yourself. Voting for the lesser of two evils may be the shit you're swallowing now but there are several voting systems where that isn't a necessity by any stretch. Truly we could have that here, but since you're the type who thinks convincing radical millennial leftists with Breitbart is absolutely going to work I'm sure it seems like an impossibility to you.

>Get the fuck over yourself. Your opinion of people isn't tempered by reality at all.
I think I'd know more about that than you.
>All the people you "get to admit" that Jill Stein is better than Hillary don't actually give a rat's ass, and are humoring you because you're likely an overbearing dick and they want you to go away so they can enjoy their beer. In one ear, out the other.
Some of us, and this might be a shocker for you, are capable of conducting ourselves with just a *tiny* bit of tact. I know that if I want to catch flies it's best to use honey, so when I engage people face-to-face I do it by setting a good example and they follow suite.

Having a polite, adult conversation isn't hard.

>Don't give me that bullshit that the third party option can have a chance at winning if we just 'raise awareness.'
I never said the third party will win, I just said I was voting for Johnson and pointed out the hypocrisy of the "silent majority" who claims to hate both the major candidates but eschews a perfectly viable alternative because people like you throw a fit. You're the one with the problem here, and worst of all everything you're saying is tainted by an obvious bias:
>accept that you voting you conscience only serves a selfish goal of alleviating guilt at having to actually make a decision.

I'm not voting for Trump, go peddle your hurt feelings somewhere else.

>>31155395
Not so much an offshoot as a specialized unit within.

The "green berets" (Army Special Forces) have 6 active and 1 national guard groups (battalions).

Each group will have between 3 and 5 Operational Detachment Alphas, which are the equivalent in hierarchy to Seal Teams. These SFOD-A's (often shortened to ODA) are the combat-deployable teams. They will also have some number of Operational Detachment Bravo (in trainup) and Operational Detachment Charlie (in rest and refit) to complete the 3-step training and deployment cycle that pretty much every modern force in the world uses. Same deal with the SEALs, the guys on the 6 teams are a scant fraction of the total SEALs out there.

Delta is a separate group that falls under First Special Forces Group. Since it's not an ODA but it's not in training or recovery it got the -Delta moniker.

Pretty much the only reason it's a *separate* designation instead of something like DEVGRU/ST6 is its primary focus is direct action. SF doesn't primarily focus on direct action, they're a recon/force multiplyer through training indigenous peoples.

And yes, just like all other Tier 1 units, they recruit from everywhere. However, to actually be placed on the team you have to officially swap branches to Army (which at that point is simply about 10 minutes' worth of paperwork someone at GSB does for you)--there are no Navy/AF/Marines in Delta, but there's a bunch of *former* navy/AF/marines.

And a branch can award pretty much any medal or award to whoever the fuck they want. We were giving ARCOMs to fucking Iraqi Police, and I personally attended the awarding of a Silver Star to a Kenyan Army guy.

>>31148480
Or the Navy could've decided they wanted to play up the whole "he wasn't Army, look how badass we are" thing.

Y'know, since everything but the Medal of Honor can be awarded to anybody irrespective of branch or nationality.

>>31156345
My bad, deleted just a little too far as I was bringing it under the post limit. That first part should say:
>>31155785
>Real life isnt like your Poli sci classes bud, voting for the less of two evils is how the world works.
They didn't offer political science classes back when I was getting my degree, so go fuck yourself. Voting for the lesser of two evils may be the shit you're swallowing now but there are several voting systems where that isn't a necessity by any stretch. Truly we could have that here, but since you're the type who thinks convincing radical millennial leftists with Breitbart is absolutely going to work I'm sure it seems like an impossibility to you.

>>31149219
Most likely due to Mountain Warfare school being more available to them, and less competition for high-end recruits from SF and Rangers (both of which have a significant presence at Bragg).

They also recruit heavily from the 173rd, yet for some reason have little presence around 101st or 25th ID bases.
>plus the Airborne mentality and bases are fucking toxic as shit
t. 100-jump veteran

>>31156089
Cool, so according to Yahoo Answers, anyone in service can join Delta. Great source!

tiny url com (slash) jauqpef

On that page, is every single casualty Delta has sustained since it's inception. Please go ahead and show me one who's not in the Army.

Find any citation for a Delta Operator where it says anything other than "...accomplishments are in keeping with the finest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his Command and the United States Army."

Speaking of which, the citation also states
>"as a Team Leader for a Joint Task Force in support of an overseas contingency operation."
>a Joint Task Force
Gee fucking whiz, a MARSOC CSO in a JSOTF? Wow! Who would have thought that a goddamn SOF Marine would be in a SOF TF with a Delta guy?

You people are literally reading an article by a staff writer who doesn't know dick about special operations and are speculating based on misinformation (at best) to say that Delta recruits from other services.

THERE ARE LITERALLY NO OTHER SOURCES TO THAT "FACT."

All other media citing that Delta recruits from other branches cites that guys fucking article.

By the way, all medal citations are public domain. Have a crack at it.

>>31156345

>Perfectly viable

You're delusional.

>Lel old timer!

I'm not even 30, shit I'm not even 27 lol. Good one junior. Also all of that was pathetic. Try again, o sage.

>Setting an example

Sure, you're the lighthouse. Keep telling yourself that.

>I'd know more than you

Not an argument and also class doesn't count.

>Tact, blah blah

You're just getting boring now. It's good that you feel important, but I'm dumbfounded that you don't know yet that no one wants to talk politics at a social gathering. Wanna know how I know you're an autistic mess?

That embarrassment of a post.

>>31156373

>Breitbart

>Even bothering with leftists

What the fuck are you even on about?

>>31156349
>Not so much an offshoot as a specialized unit within.
Delta has no relation to Special Forces.

>Delta is a separate group that falls under First Special Forces Group
Delta falls completely under JSOC. SFGs fall under USASOC.

>SF doesn't primarily focus on direct action
I guess you should tell that to all the CIF companies.

>>31156415
http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=98647

Source for the Delta Operator's citation.

>>31156349

You're clueless.

Delta was formed in 1978 as a counter terrorist unit.

It has NOTHING to do, organizationally, with US Army Special Forces (The Green Berets).

Delta, like DEVGRU, falls under JSOC jurisdiction.

Read a fucking book

>>31156466
Delta is within the purview and command structure of 1st Special Forces Group.

Several other SOF units do not immediately answer to the command structure to which they officially belong as well. Specifically some of the CCT's.

CIF companies are not ODAs. Shall I literally quote you the US Army Special Forces Mission Statement?
>The United States Army Special Forces, known as the Green Berets because of their distinctive service headgear, are a special operations force tasked with five primary missions: unconventional warfare (the original and most important mission of Special Forces), foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, and counter-terrorism

>>31155569
Whats the RRC?

>>31156485
And you should read the MTOE for the various special operations forces.

They are literally officially on the books as belonging to 1st Group.

>>31156499
Ranger Recon Company.

>>31156428
>I'm not even 30, shit I'm not even 27 lol. Good one junior. Also all of that was pathetic. Try again, o sage.
Did you forget how numbers work or something? If I say "they didn't have that back in my day" it does not mean I'm younger than you. Looks like we're fucked if you're the type of retard who'll be taking the reins when I'm retired.

I'll finish with your words:
>That embarrassment of a post.

>>31156461
>What the fuck are you even on about?
See here: >>31154968 >>31155130

Getting people to stop drinking the #StandWithHer kool-aid isn't done with Breitbart and friends. I asked for a source, the Trumpbot got mad, and now he's throwing a fit like the manchild he is because I'm voting third party. I think we've talked this point to death anyway.

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>>31156507
Huh, maybe you could point it out for us. It must be written in invisible ink.

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>>31156557
Actually, don't worry about that! I found it after all!

>>31148885
Just about any branch can try out for CAG. Come back and try to talk about CAG when you've taken the long walk and done land nav in west Virginia.

>>31156507
Funny, when I was in 1st, Delta wasn't tasked to us. Just because we were the first, doesn't mean all usasoc and jsoc army assets belong to us. Furthermore, CAG has their own uic and unit name does show up on your 214. I'm not posting mine, but look up vinnings and you'll see CAG right on there.

>>31156611
Nice shit talking bro, tell us all about your special operations experience. Otherwise it would be kind of laughable that you're talking shit to a guy who's a member of a unit smaller than Delta, with a training course that is just as long and demanding.

Where's your source that any branch can try out for Delta? I've never seen Delta recruiters out here at Lejeune.

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>>31150398
>posting laughing dragons.jpg on /k/

>>31156557
>>31156574
Wow, that shut that guy up, lmao

>>31156611
>Said the civilian to the Ranger in RRC
topkek

>>31155184
>I wouldn't be against a US backed intervention in Ukraine
That's what happened. We gave three billion dollars to neonazis to overthrow the government

>>31155363
Why would you want a man in power who literally has no idea about international politics
>Putin is not going into Ukraine - 2016, Trump

>>31157467

It's more about not wanting Hill in

>>31157988
by voting for the guy who has literally changed his views on his own policies based on how loud they were cheering at him

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>>31157467
>>31157988
>>31158465
>howdy neighbor

>>31151538
Have you seen CAG guys running around with the SIG MCX yet? There are rumors that it's going to replace the 10" HK416 in 5.56 in addition to serving their 300 BLK needs.

>>31151664
>Source ?
I'm guessing it's info wars.

>>31156415
>implying an anonymous sperglord is any more credible than Yahoo answers

Come on now.

>>31148344
This lol

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>>31149203
I know you're an easy target to pick on seeing as you misspelled more words than you didn't in your post, but can you all stop saying "drug" when you mean dragged? It makes you sound so fucking stupid, it's as bad as constantly mixing up then and than.


Seriously, did you not finish highschool? How am I supposed to take anything you say about Libya seriously when you type like a 9 year old.

>>31148177
this. why anyone would serve in military under obongo after this event is unbelievable

>>31148240
Most special forces recruit outside of their perspective branches. If youre in the Navy you can volunteer to join the SEALs. But if youre outside of the Navy you need to be invited.

>>31148327
Stevens hadnt even been in Benghanzi until that week you slimey fuck. He was there to oversee hospitals.