Good news, scientists have discovered an earth-like planet orbiting Proxima Centauri, a star a mere 4 lightyears away from our shithole of a planet.
How do we claim this planet as our own before anyone else gets their hands on it?
Oooo... I dunno, let's ask on an autistic scifi forum and report back?
Get the fuck off of /k/, moron.
I think getting there would be a good start.
>>31102149
Develop faster than light travel that won't shred the ship and all occupants inside upon entering slip space. Then you can work it out from there.
>>31102149
Set foot on it first I guess
>>31102371
that=not real
>>31102371
What is Alcubierre drive.
>Slip space
Life isn't halo.
Why bother with a planet that is next to a dying star.
>>31102149
Oh look.
More American clay.
>united stars of America WHEN
>milkywaygalaxyamericanflag.jpg
>>31104131
>proxima centauri
>a dying star
Those stars are so long-lived the next stage in their stellar evolution is basically theoretical because not enough time has passed for them to actually reach it.
>>31102149
Only the brightest will be sent there first, and it says its 1.27 earths mass so everyone there will be a lot stronger too
>>31102149
>The HARPS and UVES data indicate that Proxima b is about 1.3 times more massive than Earth, which suggests that the exoplanet is a rocky world, the researchers said. [6 Strange Facts About Planet Proxima b]
>Proxima b lies just 4.7 million miles (7.5 million kilometers) from its host star and completes one orbit every 11.2 Earth days. As a result, it's likely that the exoplanet is tidally locked, meaning it always shows the same face to its host star, just as the moon shows only one face (the near side) to Earth.
>For comparison, Earth orbits about 93 million miles (150 million km) from the sun. But Proxima b's relatively tight orbit puts it right in the middle of the habitable zone, because red dwarfs are so much cooler and dimmer than sun-like stars, team members said.
>Proxima Centauri fires off powerful flares, and the planet therefore experiences a much higher dose of high-energy X-ray radiation than Earth does
>"What is more interesting is the history of the planet — whether in the early ages, the young ages, of this planet the star was so active, and the star emitted so much high-energy radiation, that it blew away the atmosphere and may have blown away the water also,"
Send probe first before claim. Because with 99% probability it is just another burned rock. 100 trillion dorrrars, 1000 years wait and you would be ready to make serous plans.
It's sad but I really doubt we will ever get to any of these places without inventing a star trek warp drive.
>>31104092
>What is Alcubierre drive.
Mind experiment requiring entities don't existing in our world.
>>31102149
> building ships based on theoretical drive systems to try reaching a planet that might theoretically support life
> not building our own space stations at the moon's LaGrange points, slapping simple drives on them and building an empire in the solar system as Leftists and Globalists turn Earth into a giant welfare state
It's like you don't even want a miles-long O'neill cylinder with its own Orion drive using the murdercube as a hood ornament as it rains thermonuclear fire on Washington, District of Clintopia.
>a mere 4 lightyears away
>>31104312
This. I want my O'Neill Class superdreadnought.
>>31102149
You get the Space Mormons to do it.
>>31104271
Okay mister know it all. How do you know it doesn't exist?
Theoretically, the most reasonable way we can go FTL is use a warp drive that manipulates gravity. Otherwise, you'd have to go wormhole style.
>>31104352
> insert Orion ship into low polar orbit
> aerobrake until you're at lowest recoverable altitude
> burn Orion drive just hard enough to counteract gravity and atmospheric drag
> tfw you sterilize entire planets by essentially hooning it up with a spaceship
>>31104384
The closes way with modern tech is propulsion via controlled nuclear explosives
>>31104384
>How do you know it doesn't exist?
Where can i buy exotic mater with NEGATIVE MASS again?
>>31104384
We don't even fully understand what gravity IS or how it works.
Also, we have no idea how to create a stable wormhole large enough to put something through, what happens just before, during, and after it goes through, let alone where the hell it'll end up.
>>31104504
How dangerous could it be?
>>31104457
>we don't know yet means we'll never know
What other option do we have? Cryo sleep and rockets?
Where are you going to get a wormhole drive?
Hopefully the ayys at roswell left some tech behind.
Alien war when?
>>31104504
We have an idea of how to open a wormhole. We have no idea where it will go, if it will stay there, what happens in the wheel process, or how to make the apature bigger than Planck scale
>>31104563
It's a start
>>31104092
>Life isn't halo.
>>31104563
> psst!
> nobody has ever even proven that shit exists in the first place
They call it "theoretical physics" for a reason.
>>31105188
Spot the Luddite
>>31104566
>suppressor
>in a vacuum
>>31105233
Yeah... no.
>>31105246
Could just be a cooling jacket of some kind, since there's no air-cooling in space.
>>31104246
Nuke it into a stable spin, duh.
>>31105246
Suppressors act as a gas flow inertia dampers, thus reducing recoil.
Even in a vacuum.
>>31106366
>Could just be a cooling jacket
>there's no air-cooling in space.
a-are you pretending to be retarded?
>>31108808
No. Cooling jacket is a subcategory of a heat sink.
A fuckton of total duds in this thread.
>>31104070
They also said the planet being round was not real. Might take yrs and yrs, nothing is impossible. ...well, except you not being a fag, now that's impossible.
>>31109423
im not talking about that
im talking about why are you would need any cooling system.....in space...where...ya know....its negetive 400 fahrenheit
>>31109484
Oh boy.
>>31109484
>he doesn't know about thermal dynamics
You should probably do some search into why the space shuttle would have to open its cargo doors after achieving orbit.
>>31109515
My words excatly. Fuckin dud.
>>31102149
school cant start soon enough.
>>31104246
a probe which can reach it in 20 years can likely be sent in not that far future
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/apr/12/stephen-hawking-and-yuri-milner-launch-100m-star-voyage
<- these two are behind it
>>31102149
Accelerate to near the speed of light. wait almost 4 years. Decelerate to normal speed.
It's only orders of magnitude more difficult than anything our species has attempted, ever.
>>31109564
>it takes light 4 years going at the speed of, well, light
>current technology probe making it there in 20
i swear kids get dumber every year
>>31104412
u sure you understand what you are talking about?
ftl is impossible with conventional propulsion
also the best current method of conventional propulsion to reach a very high speed is likely a light sail and a ground-based laser (the idea from the article above, it was actually suggested long ago and iirc used in sci fi too, it makes it easier because the spacecraft has neither engine nor, which is more important, the fuel i.e. is much easier to accelerate due to lower mass which also shouldn't store energy to accelerate itself)
>>31109694
read the article above
>>31109717
yes it is possible. the catch there is the weight of the probe (it is of the size of a post stamp)
hawking also is one of the most renowned modern physicists, just saying in case if you don't know
>>31102149
It's simple anon, we just need a ship capable of interstellar transport. Many /k/ommando's have already reported encounters with ayy's, so I figure it's just a matter of time until one of us uses our sks to carjack the fuckers.
>>31102371
Faster than Light isn't even necessary, colonists could conceivably survive 4 years in Space
you all think pretty conveniently
imagine nano bots which assemble colonist bodies from the dirt and uploading their consciousness into them
or simply building a nice little computer on the alien soil for them to live in the virtual reality there while controlling robots and stuff
Potentially earth-like. As in roughly the same size and within Proxima Centauri's habitable zone. Remember that we currently get our data about extra solar planets basically only by observing the way the light of the star changes. Also, being in the habitable zone doesn't mean "fit for human life," it means possibility of liquid water if there is enough atmosphere. Additionally, it's orbiting a red dwarf and is probably tidally locked.
>>31109858
frankly i dont care if humans in their current bodies can live there, i care if somebody else lives there or not
also we would better explore europa too
How do we know the atmosphere won't be like toxic gas or the planet won't have like space AIDS or be inhabited by a super-hostile non-sentient species of aliens that have fucking razors for teeth and javelins for arms or some shit?
Or even worse, it's already inhabited by a species far superior to our own that has simply overlooked Earth until we come and try to invade them, and then they wipe us off the intergalactic map?
>>31109904
>or the planet won't have like space AIDS or be inhabited by a super-hostile non-sentient species of aliens that have fucking razors for teeth and javelins for arms
i would love it so much...
literally a heaven for a biologist
>>31109926
Fermi paradox, no life.
>>31110019
fermi paradox questions the existence of sapient life though, not the non-sapient one
>>31110083
That's true but it does bring to light the odds of discovering any life whatsoever in our galaxy.
>>31110019
>>31110083
>>31110137
THEY ARE HIDING
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Star
Two words- space shuttle door gunner
>>31110137
if https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia is right the life is very common
btw scientists claimed that planets in the habitable zone should have been rare meantime in reality the nearest star has one
>>31110245
No doubt life could form out there, but that it would ever share our sliver of time?
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
Here's an excellent breakdown of the idea.
>>31104382
Just think about it an entire planet filled with mormons
>>31102149
>Proxima Centauri
Already well documented to be a hostile spacefaring species.
>>31109484
And there's like no heat transfer via convection or like conduction. Because fluid dynamics and vacuum.
>>31104457
Just to play devil's advocate, I'll point out we currently are testing the EM Drive, a device that as far as we can tell violates the shit out of conservation of momentum. Horribly fucking inefficient, yes. But if we can find loopholes around something as fundamental as conservation of momentum, there might be ways to exploit the known loopholes in the theory of general relativity.
>>31109839
>imagine nano bots
when will this meme fucking die?
Nano-machines are fucking impossible, son. Research has shown that machines and mechanisms that work in the macro level completely fall apart in the nano scale. Quantum effects would be serious consideration, rogue ions fry electronics, Brownian motion disallows any sort of coordinated movement, etc etc.
https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/nano-nonsense-25-years-of-charlatanry/
>>31109484
Hello Mount Stupid!
>>31102149
>How do we claim this planet as our own before anyone else gets their hands on it?
The bastards who inhabit that planet are already making plans to come here and rape us till there is nothing left on Earth other than rocks and skellingtons
>>31110626
Sorry but anyone who says the EM drive violates anything is retarded.
>>31104154
this nigga knows what's up
>>31110386
wasn't that a scene in starship troopers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVO6A2anEqI
>>31104224
it also says its 2800 celcius, for anyone paying attention and not retarded.
>>31112246
That's the star's surface temperature.
>>31102149
>how do we claim this planet as our own before anyone else gets their hands on it ?
Literally everything that's wrong with mankind in one fucking sentence. Good job.
>>31110637
>we can't figure something out now
>so we should never ever try ever on anything ever
>>31102149
Shine a laser directly at it (don't allow it to miss via mathematically predicting it's orbit) the laser will basically be a stamp saying "Property of Earth". 4 years later, BAM. Our property
>>31104519
>where we're going, we won't need eyes
>only mouths to scream
>>31104504
>"What is the Philadelphia experiment"
>>31109820
We don't have the technology to pull near-lightspeed. The closest to it is 25% which would require 50-90 years taking into account the decelerate bit. Best candidate is a ship filled with nukes for propulsion. Laser sails also work for small probes unless you want to create kilometers-wide solar sails.
>>31112361
>nanobots as a concept violates many of the known laws of physics including thermodynamics, and has been denounced as pretty much impossible by the experts who actually work in the nanotech field
>"HURR WE JUST NEED TO SCIENCE THE SHIT OUT OF IT BRAH WE COULD BE DIGITAL GODS N SHIET, KURZWEIL TOLD ME SO!!!1"
Fuck off pop-science faggot. The (sane) adults are talking.
>>31112694
>The closest to it is 25% which would require 50-90 years taking into account the decelerate bit
Which, scary as it is, is completely attainable with current tech.
It will be a one way trip for the crew though, most likely a one way trip in general.
>>31102149
travel 15,0000 years to get there
plant a flag on it.
I think you know which one.
>>31112246
>2800 degrees celcius for any not retarded and paying attention
>Wasn't paying enough attention to see that was the star's temperature
>Was retarded enough to assume that was the planet itself
>>31112863
THE PLANET IS A SUN!
>>31106366
>Nuke it into a stable orbit
Are you drunk or retarded?
>>31112889
See project Orion, fucking dud.
>>31110637
>https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/nano-nonsense-25-years-of-charlatanry/
Did you read it?
>I used to work next to the center for nanotechnology.
Thus openeth ye olde article. And from there it continues downhill.:
>The first indication I had that there was something wrong with the discipline of “nanotechnology” is I noticed that the people who worked there were the same people who used to do chemistry and material science.
Shocking, no doubt. An institute filled with people having knowledge in the field? Whatever will they do next.
It is the worst heap of drivel I have seen so far on /k/ today. And that is impressive in its own crazy ways.
>How do we claim this planet as our own before anyone else gets their hands on it?
Well, relative to the completely obscene distances in space, that's like a grain of sand directly next to our grain of sand. The closest planetary microbes aren't for another billion grains of sand.
So, uhh, just wait. No rush. We'll get there. Eventually.