Recruitment/Info/Planning Thread

>>31101866
Anyways, where is this coming from, you are asking? It's coming from deep in my soul. I don't need to feel: I already know we need to do this. Before there was even an announcement of a MGSV, or any material of it, I had a vision. I was preparing to become a SOWT and go in the pipeline, but my swimming was not up to par, and so, off to become a Command Post Controller until I can try again (3.5 year wait) in 2012 (I left the AF in 2013 because of "force reduction measures" and volunteering to go to other critically manned AFSCs was not enough to keep me) . I had a dream of one day being in the sandbox back in the summer of 2012; I was on my back getting up, but found that my left arm was partially there, and push up with my right hand to grab a pistol. I was not dressed up like an American ground-pounder of any kind; I was dressed drastically different. Anyways, this was a dream I had forgotten until a few months ago. I feel that I need to become the Medic and learn and do what I can before we can actually break ground on our "Outer Heaven".

I am working to gain security contracts to become an EMT. I plan to work on it until I become a Paramedic and train in other things along the way. I want to work towards becoming a Tactical Paramedic. When I see something and become a "true believer", I get better and better until there is nothing less for me to pursue. I hope to gain my degree and marry the woman I love in this time. I want to tactical medicine for a short bit before going to take a shot at NSW as a reserve officer (I'll make you proud, /k/) and with the rest of my time work with a PMC to gain more experience. During this whole period, I want to network and recruit those who believe not in me, but in this idea many of us unwittingly share.

>>31101866
>>31101871
We would call a slice of Cyprus (first, when established as a reputable PMC) home for strategic, and tactical reasons that start becoming obvious. Then we would (raise money, get a loan, get money somehow) pull together whatever financial resources we can. Most of my information that I am holding is only going out, except to those who request for it via email or through team-speak.

I have planned out a substantial number of things, but would love good suggestions. My current planning and info is currently held close to the chest and only 1 pdf page at a time will be release per request to fully ensure few people could conceive have the entire planning picture (Basic OPSEC for this).

For those who want to disparage me: I don't give a shit. I only want true believers anyways. I expect resistance at a larger, tangible level anyways. For those who want to say "Autism!", you can continue on as you please: I have no need for useless people.

If you would like to talk to me, here is how you can:

TS Address: 164.132.220.108:9061
Channel: TACAMO Group
email: [email protected]

To gain entrance to the server, email me to gain the password. I already know how to generate "Secret" clearance level passwords in 1 minute or less, and I can change it at will. Also, this channel is supposedly encrypted, but that does not bother me, as the server is based elsewhere in the world.

In order to gain any material, a picture of that day's news from both the BBC, RT, and The Daily Mail, as well as a phone number country code, as well of proof picture of being in said location will also be requested. This process is to keep out "unwanted and subversive elements" from gaining info. This is to keep an account on information and control it's flow.

These requests are simple, fair, and reasonable. This is for yours, mine, and everyone's sake.

>>31101866
What is this autism?

Go back to /vg/

>>31101887
It's /k/ related, son.
It belongs here.

Did you read this, or just say "Autism" because you have no other words in your grasp? Do you not think for yourself and then get worn out when someone has a wall of text? If you don't like it, you can go elsewhere.

>>31101884
*channel on the server
(there is no password on the server itself

>>31101866
Cut the hyperbole bullshit, have a half-decent plan to secure investors and maybe you won't be shitting up the board.

>>31102415
Well, what hyperbole garbage? You realize Aegis does, right? That's what we should be trying to do. I'm also stating what I am doing: my personal contribution. If you don't like what you read, go find a hug box elsewhere. If you want to sit in your room/office and do nothing, then fine, be come another one of the forgotten apathetic ones that get shuffled out when you have nothing to contribute to anything but useless criticism.

>>31102450
not him

You're being too dramatic in your delivery, and trying too hard to emotionally appeal to people who aren't necessarily privy to your cause, and therefore, don't understand.

You'd be better off explaining how you'd even get started, where you would start, and how you would maintain such an enormous endeavor.

What if your base gets mortared? Will you be able to pull extra security and CE teams to rebuild the damaged area? What kind of pay or benefits will your cohorts receive? What will the living conditions be like? Food? Medical?

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what the hell did I read?

>>31101866
>>31101871

Have you considered being a politician?

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>>31101866
What happens if you get too powerful and attract the attention of the U.S. or any other world power?

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" For those who want to say "Autism!", you can continue on as you please: I have no need for useless people."

Hey Buddy, Its because this whole thing is an autistic fantasy land pipe dream.

Unless Im being trolled then 8/8 nice b8 m8

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>>31103225
This.
The U.S/U.N would sanction this project almost as soon as it picked up steam.

>>31102499
Ok, so less emotional appeal? Done. I just have a tendency to straddle the ethos-logos line, with an apparent lean to ethos (but only if I think my logos will back it). What is my cause? It's not my cause. It's been our cause to some degree in one way or another. I just happened to want to take a swing at it even prior to understanding MGS at any useful level. I'm just trying to put together the most workable parts of what a /k/ountry needs to not just start, and somewhat survive; but instead start with a bang and shoot for the moon. Be an example of what it means to have your fate in your hands. Yes, you will have comrades with you, but you can almost completely decide how you want to be a "lifetime contractor". We would be a country of volunteers. If we play our cards even halfway right, we can make this experiment work. Everyone would be a contractor when away from home (it could be anything from mining, security, drilling, skilled manpower in general). When at home, everyone is either "Activated" security (on duty and in some work attire; even shorts, gear vest, and a hat are ok), or "Reserve" security, as a "just-in-case" reserve reaction force (such as anyone sober and/or without pressing familial obligations and not on duty). A reclaimed portion of N. Cyprus would be ideal because of the difficulty of getting a navy on a war footing to attack us would become an international incident because, well, we would be like a militarized Tobago with a less capable Trinidad that has some money the Tobago would earn. We would also have to work to AstroTurf the locals and military if there is any resistance that we find politically (not hard, just hire them for something). Having oil rigs in the leviathan oil fields will help us a lot as well.

Now, to address on how we would start, we need to set up/partner with people who can be persuaded into joining us and help our standing as a PMC starting out. Well, I live near Fayettenam and can try to network.

>>31102499
Also, since we would be an extractives/etc. contracting company with a comically large security arm, we would bring people in as we need them, and the oil rigs would allow us to keep this promise: "With us, you will never be with want: food, a home, comrades who understand you, medical care, training, a job, a sense of purpose beyond just being here, and a place where you can know everyone is equal here. If someone says we need a Barrett, everyone gets to finger them and get to know them like the back of their hands. Even if we have a blind man, if he can do something or be willing to learn something new to be useful, then there is no worries. Even a storyteller with experience can be useful. It's meant to not be a welfare system, but a guarantee that you will always be able to useful, even if it is someone with a Helen Keller combo as a TA for a school. I won't give up on anyone, no one here is expected to give up on you, and you should not give up."

That is somewhat of an idea of what would be what it is like there. Not a utopia, but a place we would build to be proud of and be happy to pass on to the next generation; a country of volunteers where no one owns them and they are free to live and die on their own terms and beliefs. Pay would be based on a per diem minimum equal to $100. That would be called "Subsitence Pay" (SP), since everyone is technically on guard duty if sober/without urgent familial duties (which the oil rigs would allow us to do even on slow contracting season). Contracted periods are negotiated before deployment, and SP would be in effect in addition to the deployment per diem that was negotiated. No one is forced to go out and do a job: if no one wants it, it doesn't get done. Now, if 2 guys want to go, and no one else want to when they need 20, it's up to those 2 to get anyone else on board before the point of no return of contract acceptance.

>>31103090
I have no time nor care for politics. It's why I wish there was a real Armstrong, but Trump is the closest we got until we get our things in order and ready to go.

>>31103168
We send some ambassadors to a few key countries (no worries with Cyprus, since it is the best choice of neighbor for what we need): US (obvious reasons), Russia (trade, and other obvious reasons), France (have some money, and possible contacting work in the former colonies), Greece (because of a Greek/Cypriot bond), Israel (the leviathan oil fields is why we should care), and maybe even Egypt (they can always hire us to go shoot the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm ok with that). We don't have to care about China, NK, Iran, or Saudi Arabia's opinions. No one would dare nuke us (and only 2 countries could do it, with one of them being a supplier for us and us being a very friendly purchaser of) if Cyprus likes us around to keep the Turks out (the locals will love us for it).

>>31103481
How do you plan to move people around
We'd need airstrips and pilots and mechanics and fuel
Incredibly expensive even with a domestic supply line

>>31103225
This project is not for those who want to sit at home and just post on a Tibetan weaving board for the rest of their lives. This is for people who want to make their mark in this world that won't be forgotten.

>>31103254
Um... a whole group of people that can be hired and never be traced to the USG but still get the job done? Hmm... they might even try to hire us for something if we play nice. We pick our fights, battles and wars: even a fool knows not to charge at a riot shield wall if he wants to walk away unscathed.

>>31103513
This.

I'm not knocking your idea, just interested in learning more on how youre planning it.

>>31103513
The Czechs and other fmr Yugo states are always willing to sell working acft to whoever wants to buy it. Airfields won't be a problem with some of the choices the russian/soviet equipment can give us. Oh, and no ITAR to worry about either. Pilots are not going to be that hard to find when they can see how well they can negotiate for pay (esp. hind/other heavy helo pilots). Old russian fighters can assist with CAS/Basic Air Superiority and still be low cost. Basically, we would be modern Hussars/Private VDV-type force: We hit hard, we hit fast, we rely on swiftness and aggressiveness to get things done. So, Aeromobile Mechanized Inf & Armored warfare are our game when if goes beyond just pulling basic security. Hell, we would even hire former VDV officers to help make this happen.

>>31103549
Thank you for asking the questions, I'm happy to answer them.

>>31103624
Doesn't the UN outright ban the use of PF's for aggressive/offensive actions?

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What are your plans for the English language?

>>31103424
But what about conflicting ideologies?

How will that be handled?

Any outlones of basic law?

>>31103643
Not everyone signed that. And the countries that matter don't like it and have not signed. Also, we would contract general manpower of other types in countries where we can't have a PMC operating in a potentially offensive manner (but of course defensively, we can respond). The UN would have to recognize us if we are mercs in EVERYTHING. So mining? Sure, we possibly have someone with expertise in that. Need people who can operate heavy equipment, but your locals/people can't use it safely/efficiently? Call us. Security? Our bread and butter. Intelligence from/for a region? We would have that handled as well. Can't pay us in cash? We'll accept payment in materials (that we can refine and sell, or even rights to minerals); we might even hire the locals at such a good rate, they would stand by us more than their own government.

>>31103769
Not op
Not attacking you just want to know more.

It seems as you have the logistics and strategies worked out. The only problem is that I haven't seen you talk about social issues such as law and order.

>>31103651
>Official Languages
>First
English, because it is THE Lingua Franca, and as you can imagine, the one with the most users and utility.

>Second
French, because it does help us have some sense of class, as well as being the other language for science, and W Euro politics when it matters. It also rings nice for military reasons (such as calling out commands and it not killing the voice as quickly as English).

What locations are you considering for bases? Are you considering the rig route? Camps set up in countries we operate in?

I'm not trashing either, I'm just curious on how we'd obtain land. And of course I don't expect specifics. Be vague as you want. Just actually curious.

>>31103424
What about volunteers with families? Any plans for that?

Surely some of the volunteers will take local wives.

Any idea what startup costs would look like? This is really my test for you. I'm a business owner, and would like to see your plan. I'd be happy to talk with you at some point.

maybe try /kountry/ or whatever on 8ch

>>31103684
Conflicting ideologies? We'd be there to work, operate, train, and build, the only conflicts are what facilities to establish. If you don't want to operate, one why are you even there, two you can work and build; if you don't want to work you'd better be good at building or training recruits.

>>31103980
I'm talking religions.

Islam doesn't fair well with anything but itself.

And you'll still need law and rules for people. Not everyone will follow guidelines

>>31103684
>>31103792

This might piss off some people, but whatever:

All Law is based on 3 Bodies of external law

>1. Basic Natural Law
>1A. Keep your word, as your word is a contract among honorable people: do what you say you will, don't do what you said you would not.
>1B. Do not infringe on others existence, but in turn, you have a right to protect what is you and yours.

>2. American Constitution and Bill of Rights
> I should not have to explain this. Most of those 2 are ok.

This one will be a surprise
>3. Some of Judaic/Mosaic law
>Capitol crimes are the hardest things to prove, but if at least 2 very well vetted witnesses who attempted to stop said capitol offense(s) from happening, then you have a chance of conviction.
>A Capital Offense would be the following:
>Murder, Rape, Kidnapping, Espionage, War Crimes, Perfidy, Treason, as well as the attempts, conspiracy to attempt a capital crime, and as well it's commission or potential commission and conspiracy of such against a minor under 18 is a capital crime and offense.
>How the community handles the outcome of a trial is everyone else' deal, but a death sentence would not happen unless there is such contempt for the court, proceedings, weight of the crime, and witnesses to the trial may get a very specific send off that will not be pleasant: An execution by being attached to a fixed pole or the like. The sentenced will struck with the hand once from a standing position, and go to the back of the line of everyone of the sentenced person's former comrades: this means everyone who is not on "Active Guard Duty", is not medically fit at the time, or with pressing matters at hand. This line continues until the sentenced person is dead. This is to show the weight of betrayal to not just the person sentenced, but to everyone else that it show the weight of it in a tangible manner.

>>31103684
>>31104033
>Cont.

No kebab. Assyrian Christians, yes. Islam is not allowed because it will conflict with everyone else's beliefs. It has a proven record of wrecking havoc on societies over time. This is not out of hatred, but from history.

Fake modern liberals can just stay away. We can find out the real freedom chasers from socialist/communistic garbage.

Mainland Chinese will have effectively no chance of joining us because of obvious reasons. Taiwanese have a good chance of getting in.

Gurkas are always welcome to join us.

I do have a regions of operations/recruiting sheet that can be made on request for more details on this.

Please continue OP I am getting many keks out of your autistic manbaby rants.

>>31104033

Looks like a good laws that can be built upon.

>>31103835
Cyprus and the assisting in the reclamation of the northern Turkish held areas are the best place for us: it keeps Rhodesia from happening, and we would win the locals admiration, as well as have nice hiring pool from the locals who kind of want to fight, but just don't know how.

The rig route is to extend our economy, and be a nice place to learn things from captured combatants.

Cyprus is just waiting for the right matches to light the fire they want. It would be a boon to their economy, and give them a little bit of pride when we "help" (we would let the 21 Grads do the real work) them as well as becoming a symbiotic neighboring state that helps in case the Turks want to learn how bad things can get if we even are given 1% of the Cyprus GDP to make things happen.

>>31101866
>But we can do Kojima a solid
I see what you did there.
To your point, you're going about it all wrong.
You don't need to try and section off yourself from the rest of the system in order to do what you want, you need to learn to be part of the system so you can work within it so well that you will have the freedom you seek.

Live in the cloud. Well not THE cloud so much as YOUR cloud. The more you can coordinate all of your members communication and business practices into a digital form the better. Using cryptocurrencies, exclusively online purchasing, operating your team not as company or entity but more of an online thinktank where ideas get expressed (such as mission lists, etc) but it becomes the individuals responsbility to actually take the job.
You all adhere to an internal behavior, like a club, but the government oversight is strictly over the commerce of your individuals getting paid.
and you're being paid in cryptocurrency, so plenty of countries still don't even consider that taxable.
As for the physical aspect, If you do obtain your own island nation build in the middle of the ocean (https://www.quora.com/If-someone-were-to-build-an-artificial-island-in-international-waters-could-they-legally-declare-it-as-a-sovereign-nation) and all your citizens have dual citizenship, then you'll be able to operate pretty autonomously, but to be an effective fighting force in that scenario, without showing up on the radar of the UN, you would have to start manufacturing your own weaponry.
As soon as it's discovered that you are doing that though, any country with a single battleship could show up and blast you out of existence. You don't have the protections of being part of a larger trade organization.
So you would probably have to start with that, which means creating a thriving trade community. Perhaps exclusively focusing on cryptocurrency could be a way to go, but I doubt it.
Perhaps the weapons could be supplied by the client.

>>31104025
>initiates stand intermixed in parade block encircled by veterans facing outward on watch
Let this place be one of brothers, let all those who stand to a god above men turn away and sanctify his brotherhood and himself before that power
>all those with religious conviction about face and pray as their faith wills, this shall place them face to face with their nonreligious comrades or to look upon one of the sentinels
Let all of those who hold an ideology above men avert their gaze, to the left or right as suits their preference, know that your ideology has brough you here to this brotherhood and these your brothers alongside you
>this will again have initiates looking upon or into the faces of their comrades and the older watch members standing vigil
If any should still harbor reservations, let him leave now or forever hold their peace.

>>31104033
>punched to death
Alright, that's a pretty intense death sentence.

>>31103850
This whole thing is built on families being here. We need a way to pass this on to the next generation in meme, gene, scene, and theme. Families help facilitate that. I would like to be Old Big Boss not dying at a cemetery, but rather have my own family stand beside me on the highest point of our land we all built, hug my family, stand at attention and yell over the emergency PA: "I have done my best to serve you all honorably, faithfully, and with no regrets. I salute you one last time, as a reminder that you too can pass this on your family: not just my immediate family, but all of you are my family. I love you all, and will miss you all until we go to the other side. No shame in this life or death. Farewell, and be free people in this life and the next!" and stand at a saluting attention until I move on. That is what I want everyone of you to feel proud of doing if you make it to passing as an older person knowing you too built this. And a glass display case with a rifle, and 6 loaded mags: so that even in death, you can always borrow from me to take care of yourself and your comrades when things go south.

Sorry if it got personal, but I want to die either in combat (its fast at least) or as an old man who did what he could to help everyone he could. And I think some of you think the same.

So yes, this place will have to have families to continue on the dream we all have.

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>>31104162
Actions speak louder than words

>>31104219
That's why you invoke action into the graduation and force people to take a physical stance because of their beliefs, you ingrain the word with the action.

>>31104216
You don't want to be big boss. Big Boss just wanted a refuge for those who can't do anything but be a soldier, so they could find a purpose.
You are just describing a libertarian no-borders dream.
I think you need to take a much closer look at sociology. Your idea can work if it's exclusively operating as an adult organization that recruits people from other countries, but when you're talking about starting your own set of values to pass on to each generation, you're basically just talking about creating your own theocracy, just replacing spirituality with humanism.

Put me on the R&D Team, Boss.

I'm a Mechatronics Specialist.

>>31104088
You are talking about this like you were planning where to buy furniture for your new house: yeah we will buy this at ikea, get a truck to transport it home... yada, yada, yada. Do you even realize how international laws straight out forbid shit like this. You lack any detailed information and even basic knowledge about those things. Where are you going to get money for all those things (we are talking about hundreds of thousands dollars). Do you really think it's that easy without you knowing any influencial people or having any contacts. Sorry kid but I have every right to call you autistic.

>>31104350
Hundreds of thousands....
I'm thinking millions of dollars

>>31104381
Hundreds of thousands to even start with... Still my point is where he thinks he can get that money

>>31103850
For the Initial Costs:
$5-10 million for the oil rig
$200,000-$1,000,000 for our Cypriot office and quarters
@ $5000 fully equipped and kitted for most situations on average per person = $3,000,000

100 basically armed and trained oilmen @ $4,700,000 (Contract Pay of $20k for 3 mos of work + 3/4 of the year of SP at $27k=47k$)
300 security personnel @ $15,600,000 (Contract Pay of $25k for 3 mos of work on rig + 3/4 of the year of SP at $27k=$52k)
200 basically armed and trained support personnel @ $7,400,000 (Contract Pay of $10k for 3 mos of work + 3/4 of the year of SP at $27k=37k$)
Personnel Total: $27,700,000

$10000000 Rig
$01000000 Office
$03000000 Equipment
$27700000 Payroll
=
$41,700,000 Total Cost Estimate

Max cost based on estimate:


On another note:
Our people can marry/be married to who ever as long a church can recognized it. (Only the intel teams would care to pour over the paper work for govt recognition from outside of Cyprus)

>>31104196
It's supposed to show the weight of the crime, and the weight it will put on everyone. It is intentionally for the most severe cases only though, not the standard (like someone who obviously guns down people when on "Activated Guard Duty" or other needless violence.

>>31104413
It sounds like he thinks that corporations and countries are going to invest in this based off the idea alone.

>>31102084
Why the fuck do you have a name tag with your email fucktart [spoiler]>__fucking morons don't put you or email on your FUCKING POST RRRRREEEEEEEEeeeeeee
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>>31104062
Good. It's hard to get me down: everyday I find something in myself to improve in some way, manner, or form. Those who think this is bait, or unbridled autism, I can assure you: you are wrong and will hope to prove your doubts as needless as a mailbox at sea.

>>31101866
>I hate having other people lord over me, I want something like a brotherhood, but on a bigger scale
>>31101871
>I want to set down this foundation of an ideology, and be a healer, which pretty much ensures I get protected
>>31101884
>I'm going to get money some how, most likely by going after wealthy benefactors, and anyone who doesn't think I'm headed in the right direction has no place and no input
>>>31102450
>I want to be like Aegis, but far more autonomous with only accepting people who agree with my ideology, because instead of making us better at our job, it'll create loyalty and a willingness to do any job.
>>31103281
>My personal goals for this is not my personal goals, it's the group goals that existed before me. This is why we band volunteers together from all walks under one ideology
>>31103424
>join us, we'll take care of you, feed you, train you, give you purpose
>>31103481
>We become allies with countries that would support us militarily if we're attacked by any of the major powers, causing civil unrest and violence to spill out far beyond our borders
>>31103520
>we want to be a group of militants that governments can use to fight their proxy wars, and be a big enough threat that they wouldn't cross us
>>31103624
>We can get support from countries with ethnic ties that will have sympathy and use for us, to hedge against the superpowers
>>31103769
>We'll get involved in other industries, such as energy shipping
>>31104033
>We derive our own set of laws with harsh punishments
>>31104045
>extremely picky about ethnicity of members, and extremely unwavering on ideology
>>31104088
>We'll take advantage of a country that's a powderkeg ready to blow and become a symbol of that anger and rebellion
>>31104216
>Extremely family oriented, generation oriented, eliminating outside ideology.

You are describing the taliban/al queda/isis without islam.

>>31104481
That's just empty numbers. Nothing else.Everything can look good on paper until you actually start doing it irl

>>31104080
Most of the law will be written with these guidelines, and the rest we will put together one day.

>>31104526
What org would (publically) invest in a global mercenary fight/work company?

>>31104481
Nice try. Where will the money come from big shot?

>>31104545
This, but still...

>tfw Outer Heaven will never exist

>>31101866

I read your posts, all of them, and here's what I have to say:

-Your delivery is overdramatic, too wordy, beyond over-political somebody with this many words usually doesn't get as much done as you have
-You've tried to appeal to us time and again, but you've explained nothing
-Any woman that will just move to Cyprus with you is not a keeper
-Women are crazy

>>31104526
That's what I understand from what he is saying but I want to know about money to even start everything. Nobody is going to give money to a guy who wants to build PF like the one he saw in a video game

>>31104552
Exactly...

>>31104536
OK, I've read through this, I missed the one yesterday. Why Cypress? Why an oil rig? 600 people is a lot to support, I can't see 600 being on the rig all at once and not eating each other alive, maybe I misread?

t. someone that has built multiple 600+ man FOBs

>>31104481
>Max cost based on estimate:
No, your labor costs are a huge underestimate.
You're completely forgetting that you'll have to have an extremely good health plan (you won't have the facilities to treat things like cancer or aids on site) even if you are paying 100% for all health costs, it's a huge chunk of money.
You should basically double the personnel total.
Also, the average price for an offshore oil rig is 650 million, with the cheapest being in the 200 million range.
For 10 million you might get a land based rig..

>>31104350
Funny you mention what the law forbids:
Cyprus needed the Greeks to help push out the Turks. That obviously did not happen. So the outgunned and less capable (despite the size of both the AD and Reserve of Cyprus' military) was steamrolled by the illegal invasion of Turkey. Everyone does (except Turkey, ofc) not recognize N Cyprus as a country, but as an illegally militarized zone. Any action by (or with Cyprus and its blessing, since they did not sign the UN Merc Convention, as well as none of the countries that really matter) would be considered justified by all nations due to it being an illegal invasion to this day. What we would do is get some land to call our own in the to-be-reclaimed regions of N Cyprus.

Money is currently the issue, but if we begin as an oil company (with raised capital, and loans) we can almost certainly get this going. Like I said, we start as an oil rig company with a somewhat large security arm.

Also, if I am lacking in information, tell me what I should be looking for (since you seemed to have the need to point this out, help me find it).

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>tfw no military or medical experience so there's no place for me in outer haven

>>31104574
Yeah. That's what he's not understanding.

>>31104620
Not op

But an oil business takes millions of dollars to upstart.

It's nearly impossible to get investors for a multi thousand dollar project let alone hundreds of millions of dollars.

>>31104413
>>31104526
Erik Prince would probably consider it. Always having something to fall back on would be nice for someone in his position.
Eebon Barlow could also consider aligning/partnering with us.
I live near Fayettenam, I could do some footwork to get some more info; but no guarantee there.
Piecemealing loans and other types of investment instruments can be used.
Getting patents and selling/licensing them would also help us get money: patent law in the US can make ridiculous money in 1 suit.

Capturing a rig is too risky, despite having everything you need (for obvious reasons).

>>31104585
yeah, this guy obviously has never been to an oil rig
even with a rotating team, he would need a pretty high end (expensive) rig to support even 200.

And he's talking about 600+

Honestly he'd have a far better time essentially building a cruiser and living in international waters only docking to refuel and hiring themselves out to the UN as an independent military support group. Over time you build up revenue, creating a larger and larger fleet, providing military solutions to various countries and gaining special trade status.
Honestly, starting it out as a full fledged company like Aegis is probably the way to go, with funds being set aside or the acquisition of said international waters base as the end goal.
As such you could reach you goal much faster, and your island is immediately capable of being defended as you would have the backing of the UN.

>>31104620
You are lacking information since you get it by reading some articles on the internet. Have you ever been to Cyprus? How are you planning to get an oil rig? If you want to establish a small PMC: alright there are many, it would be hard but not impossible. But your plans on the military nation and you want to become a real life Big Boss... Well sorry pal but you might as well become a queen of England

>>31104707
as a small business owner, let me tell you, you won't even get a single million dollar loan unless you have something large to put up as collateral, or you have an operating life of five years and a revenue stream of at least a million.
For what you want, you would have to go almost exclusively investors, or run an entire business for years first to build up revenue.
Or get George Soros on your side.

>>31104707
Why would they? You have nothing but an idea and a plan that random idiots on the internet proofread. You're offering them nothing up-front, with no guarantee that you won't take the money and run. And even on the gamble that they think you're trustworthy, with your chances of success there is no guarantee that they'll get their money back.

>>31104707
>Capturing a rig is too risky, despite having everything you need (for obvious reasons).

As soon as you tried this every investor would pull out and the UN/US would intervene.

I refuse to believe that this guy is real. It must be the best prepered bait of a century.

>>31104789
considering it's 95% how the taliban rose to power, yeah, probably.
If not, I hope he's on a watchlist.

>>31104789
I know someone like this in real life, so don't think this level of autism isn't possible.

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I WANT TO BELIEVE

but I don't

>>31104545

>I hate having other people lord over me, I want something like a brotherhood, but on a bigger scale
Are we not equals here, just some of us have more resposibilty than others and just want to get things done. i don't want to be someone who controls other, but help others chose their own fate

>I want to set down this foundation of an ideology, and be a healer, which pretty much ensures I get protected
I'm perfectly ok to live, fight, and die with those who want to have a home of being free to live a life not decided by others. What about you?

>I'm going to get money some how, most likely by going after wealthy benefactors, and anyone who doesn't think I'm headed in the right direction has no place and no input
A couple dozen people can turn a populous towards a direction. A nudge is sometimes what is need to get things done, with a bit of cash on the side, of course. For those who don't like it, well, they can just be else where. I don't own you. You go do you. I'm not keeping anyone here. My ideology is to get this going. That's my goal. I'd take in a Buddhist. All that I, and everyone else cares about is being useful, or willing to become useful.

>I want to be like Aegis, but far more autonomous with only accepting people who agree with my ideology, because instead of making us better at our job, it'll create loyalty and a willingness to do any job.
Let the cook do the cooking, the shooters to the shooting, etc. If someone wants to join, and all they can do is turn a wrench? Great, we got a guy who can help us keep our stuff working. What's wrong with that? All armed entities need support to keep going.

>My personal goals for this is not my personal goals, it's the group goals that existed before me. This is why we band volunteers together from all walks under one ideology
In way, yes. If I see something worth going after, I feel no shame or loss helping those along the way to get there.

>>31104808
It's a cool idea that would never work in the real world.

>>31104840
Whats wrong is you are trying to create a theocracy and those are inherently oppressive.
Let the theology be left to religions if you want to make something prosperous.
Cut out all of your ideals because, guess what, it's not your job to lay out morality for others.
Right now it just sounds like a giant con job.

If you want a safe space for mercs, then you can't have it be about ideology. You have to let it exist despite everyone else's ideology, not by eliminating it.

>>31104545
>>31104840

>join us, we'll take care of you, feed you, train you, give you purpose
Don't we all just want something to give us more meaning than only the mundane?

>We become allies with countries that would support us militarily if we're attacked by any of the major powers, causing civil unrest and violence to spill out far beyond our borders
Is that the point of some alliances in the first place? A hedge bet against rash action by bring friends with internal working that are far from simple, but still capable?

>we want to be a group of militants that governments can use to fight their proxy wars, and be a big enough threat that they wouldn't cross us
Yes, and no. Yes, because the big contract come from there. No because can still profit (morally, and materially) by targeting the heads (or means of finance) of terror organizations with large funding coming from raw materials. The size part comes from the fact that nearly everyone is expected to be able to fight back at a basic level from an invasion. If we had a population of 400,000, with 380,000 of the populous armed and trained, that would be hell for any invasion, especially when you can't sink it, land on it, drive to it, and dropping/firing munitions is just going to get a retaliation in the most off the wall ways possible.
>We can get support from countries with ethnic ties that will have sympathy and use for us, to hedge against the superpowers
That, and the fact their govts need cash to operate, they would sell what ever they can to us.

>We'll get involved in other industries, such as energy shipping
If it helps us keep floating, then so be it. I just want to be able to say to my family that I did the right thing.

>We derive our own set of laws with harsh punishments
A harsh punishment for a harsh crime. And these are mostly guidelines, not the whole of the law (which should be simple, concise, and easily understandable by a 12 year old).

>>31104955
Do you realize you aren't actually responding to my claims?
Half of them you are just responding with questions.
If you truly are serious, then you should be able to answer the next questions without feeling defensive.

How old are you?
What business experience do you have?
What city planning experience do you have?
What military experience do you have?

>>31104994
This.

You have to actually have military and business experience to even begin to make this possible.

Granted you'd have to be legendary in both those fields...

>>31104545
>>31104840
>>31104955

>extremely picky about ethnicity of members, and extremely unwavering on ideology
If an ideology wants to curb stomp other because it is simply an edict to do so, why should it be allowed to infringe on other, and say to lie to those outside of it.
Gurkas are good example of loyal people from martial cultures. Good people.
Oh, and believe me, when the AF can't catch a literal Chinese spy as an officer in an Intelligence Vault on a STRATCOM base, I can tell you that things like that, are just another reason to keep a wary eye open.
Also, if we were a country, aren't we supposed to have a customs/border guard for such things? I mean, why just let anyone in?
>We'll take advantage of a country that's a powderkeg ready to blow and become a symbol of that anger and rebellion
It's not wrong when you help them get their country back and say "I have your back, we are in this together" as two entities working together for a just cause.
>Extremely family oriented, generation oriented, eliminating outside ideology.
We can take others in too, you know that?

I like that nice touch that you just feel like labeling us who want this as terrorists, without any reasonable weight.
Do we not have the right to be free, the freest people alive? To live and die unfettered by politics and petty garbage that most of modern society puts out?

>>31104548
I though you just wanted some numbers to work with?

>>31104552
Why do we care if it's publicly known what we do and for whom?

>>31101866
>unfettered by politics and petty garbage that most of modern society puts out?

You do realise you'll have to use politics to negotiate and trade with these countries...

>>31105089
He wanted numbers backed up by something. It's one thing to pitch an idea to investors and say "this is how much it will cost". It's another to say "This is how much we have made, proving it is a valid concept."

Without the latter, at best, the investors will steal your idea since you weren't doing anything with it.

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>>31104842
Maybe not exactly, but This guy started his own 'non-profit' mercenary origination and the only military training he has was flying to Libya and joining the Arab spring revolution. Now his forces are in Syria training militias and combating ISIS. Watch the documntary "point & shoot" its interesting an pretty /k/.

also
>sons of liberty
>mfw

https://sonsoflibertyinternational.com/

>>31104994
I own five hundred acres in central Missouri selling managed timber and mineral rights (mostly lead but also silver). I've personally managed the acquisition, gutting, renovation, and sale of over 150 homes and commercial properties in one of the most depressed economies in US history. In addition, I have personally sourced investors for all my projects from across the country (and also Japan and India). I have an ownership interest in several companies that design physical product design and manage production overseas. I'm in my early 30s.

You don't look like you have a real plan, and, even though the elevator pitch you gave us sounds interesting in broad strokes, the way you've behaved makes me think you're deeply and seriously unstable. Bipolar disorder is treatable, you should seek help because you're not going to be able to accomplish your goals no matter how much backing you manage to wrangle unless you can keep your head level.

Bigu Bossu, if my only experience is hand to hand combat rather than military, could I still come aboard to train soldiers in martial arts?

>>31105142
I'm not saying a pmc is impossible.

I'm saying that it's near impossible to start a global pmc from literally nothing.

We would probably never see its success in our lifetimes.

>>31105174
I'm not disagreeing with you, chances are nothing will come of this. But something could. Alternatively if anyone here is looking to join, contribute or help a PMC organisation I just wanted to get the information out there. Information is the most powerful weapon in war.

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>>31104994
This so much. You never responded to my question about startup costs.

And if you're wanting to mother base this shit, think again. Old oil platforms are expensive as hell and require shit tons of matanace. Just going to the main land for supplies would be insane regarding transport costs.

Have you ever been under fire? My guess is going to be no. The fact that you type the way you do indicates to me that you are glorifying a fantasy.

If you can present a clear cut plan of action, including time tables and logistic costs, I might humor you with more questions. If not, you're just reposting the same thing that was talked about years ago.

Speaking of which, does anyone have the green text story of the K run aircraft carrier?

>>31104573
>I've had years to pull somethings together. But I'm only one man. No one built anything great on their own. I will admit that any and everyday. I do know I am a bit wordy.
>I know I have appealed to emotion. That is fine. If you want more details, you have my email. You have not because you ask not (in a safe private way).
>She isn't crazy, she is just tired of a boring life where nothing happens, and I am sure we share that feeling.
>Well, I do have enough crazy to keep up. Usually.

>>31105174
Biggest difference between them and this is that SoL had a goal that the people funding agreed with on a humanitarian level, and that's why they get money.
This guy's plans are to make an entire nation by stealing occupied land, something that's exponentially more costly, and all he has for us is a bar-napkin elevator pitch.

>>31104574
>>31104661
I have plans for... dealing with that. It's just that no country was built by a single soul.

>>31105259
Gonna tell the rest of us niggas what said plans are?

>>31104683
Hmm, well, do your research on the leviathan oil fields. If Russia wants a piece of the pie, who would not want to work/contribute to getting a slice of it too?

>>31105081
>why should it be allowed to infringe on other, and say to lie to those outside of it.
cause you're not a god!
You literally don't have control over that! No one does! People are gonna say and think whatever they want!
>terrorists
You don't know anything about the taliban, al quaeda or isis, do you? They didnt start out as terrorists you know.
I'll be very interested in your response to my final set of questions.

>>31105259
>>31105274
those ellipses are not a good sign.

>>31104712
The high number is for people getting cycled out on a quarterly basis.

Part of the security team would also be hired out for short term periods if things are quiet around the rig.

I don't want the UN to get in our affairs, and I don't think we want to get into theirs without a very nice paycheck, not just a "pass/license/status" on its own.

>>31104720
>Cyprus
No, I have not. Just being honest, not going to bs anyone here.
It's quiet now, but with Turkey the way it is, it's just a matter of time before it goes nuts.
>Oil Rig
Well, this is why we bring experts on board for things we don't have full pictures of understanding on. I bet the CEO of any large company can not do the bread and butter portions of their company without hand-holding. I don't want to be like that. If the people who know more than me on this can join and help, great, welcome aboard.

>>31105333
That's how oil rigs work already
only about 65% of the workforce stays on for more than 3 months.
And if you want the UN to stay out of it, you can't work with ANY UN country.

>>31104730
Well, investors... time to get the "true believer" pitchmen out to help, hmm?

>>31101866
You let me know when this works. If I see in the headlines about a crazy guy building a rig with loads of soldiers and such I'll join. Till then I'll just play it cool and keep my head down.

>>31105431
Exactly.

The UN isn't a choice.

>>31105434
>I have no idea how to make my lunacy appealing to anyone with common sense or money
>Anyone want to help me? ;-)

>>31104759
Well, don't investors take risks with no collateral? No. They could have a 3rd party verify and log/journal what we do. Well, I'm no investments pitchman, but we can find them I bet.

>>31105434
And what is that pitch exactly?

>>31105434
That's not how investing works.
NO ONE invests millions of dollars on an idea someone else has that they like the ideals behind but the person is a bad choice to run it.
Hell, look at Elon Musk. He has to fund himself to start with most of his shit because he hasn't proven viability of almost any of it.

Not to mention have you considered how you would compete with Aegis? If no one wants to hire you because you're new, and a huge financial risk, and your soldiers aren't there just to do a job, but are ideologically tied to you instead of the client, why would they contract you instead of someone else?

You can either make a religion, or a business. If you want both you're gonna have to be L Ron Hubbard.

>>31105422
Your biggest problem right now is that you are already talking what are you going to do in the far future. You have to start from... Well from the start. Think how are you going to do for now. It will take years, decades before you can even talk about the real life outer heaven.

>>31105472
Where do you find the 3rd party?

You need to know every detail before you even begin to set this plan into motion...

>>31104789
Not bait. Sorry to disappoint.

>>31104795
I'm already on a "watchlist". I still hold a "Secret" clearance to this day, and for a few more years.

>>31104798
It's good to know someone is getting a laugh rather than being a useless naysayer.

>>31104808
You can believe. It's all some people have. No shame in it.

>>31105472
you don't exist yet
that's the point
What can they verify?
If your core team had a combined 100 years of military service, and ran a multi million dollar security firm in the past, you could get eyed because you as individuals have built a value and worth which they are willing to risk for.
But you havent told us your qualifications yet, so we can't tell you how to proceed.

>>31105530
This entirely. No investor takes a risk where the person only has an idea, unless it's a screenplay or some shit. This is a multi million dollar ambitious ass project, and so far, you have only told us you have a plan.

What are your qualifications?
Who are your employees?
What is your absolute first step to get started?

Answer these clearly and without having a question in the response, and you'll have a start.

>>31104881
Those avoiding oppression by way of creating a no-ideology zone will either create their own bastardization or fall prey to an aggressor. This is destiny.

>>31101866
>I'm already on a "watchlist". I still hold a "Secret" clearance to this day, and for a few more years.

Ah. So if you are a gubment employee then why are you even talking about this on the Internet. More specifically on the one board that would be monitored the most by the agencies

>>31105573
Depending on who you ask, /x/ is the most monitored.

If you ask autists, of course.

>>31105472
3rd party to verify what? All the shit you plan to do if you had any money, but you don't? Your military force, comprised of a dozen assholes recruited on a Lebanese lithograph enthusiasm community? Your successful past projects, the ones which don't exist?

They're not going to waste time tracking what you do with their money if they could just not give you the money in the first place. And you still haven't given them any reason to expect a return on their investment.

>>31105573
odds are he's an IT guy
they can get clearance since IT guys still work at things like FBI, CIA, NASA, etc.

>>31104881
>I'm not making a theocracy. The Mosaic law is an old, old example of law that say "innocent until proven", otherwise the people in charge can expect a shortened lifespan. I just would rather not have that happen with anyone like what happens in the US when the innocent are put away or executed.
>I'm not laying out morality for others; I just simply ask that people be decent.
>Ideology that we can fight for something we agree with, rather than what we are told to believe and go forth blindly? No. I command no one. I own no one. I want to lead by standing beside and with those on /k/ who believe in this.

>>31105608
those are empty words and contradictions
you said yourself, if you don't agree, you are welcome to leave.
That means you are excluding anyone that doesn't agree to your ideals.
What if the majority of people decide they want to do things very different than your dream? What then?

It looks like you're working your way down to my next question though. The above question is more food for thought.
Speaking of food, I'm grabbing some. Expect a slow reply.

>>31104994

>24
>None. That is what I would leave to those of you who know better about this than I.
>None. The closest thing I have to that is emergency management experience.
> Command Post Controller on a STRATCOM/AMC base. It's surprisingly educational experience that taught me much about where the smallest detail matter and fit in strategic planning.

>>31105597
So pretty much the most basic clearance you can get in the agencies.

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>>31105636
So... nothing?

Well, it's as much as we figured, I guess. An ideas man with no way to put it into reality.

>>31105046
I have some military experience, but I have to wait for some things to happen before I make one final run with it. The business side, well, this is why I'm asking for volunteers. I'm only one. I can only do what I can.

>>31103684
to be fair, not even the constitution was written by a single guy on a napkin in a single afternoon. If the goal is to fund
>Jorrvas/k/r, the Country
then it's easiest to follow the steps to sovereignity that all others have:

1. Territory (secure at least a portion of it)
1.a. Secure finances or have a plan to do so
2. Form a group to work on a legal system, figure out your priorities
3. Diplomacy: establish yourself as a sovereign, allied nation
4. Nation: build a sense of national identity through school/propaganda/etc. Won't be fully in effect until the 3rd generation or so, so don't sweat it

>>31105113
It's why I have no aspirations to be an ambassador unless I must. Smile, wave, agree with them unless it conflicts with orders or natl sec. We can have others who want to do that step up.

>>31105636
Oh, then your dream is impossible for you to achieve at this moment.
You are far too young and inexperienced. You're not even old enough to understand the world let alone change it.
There's a reason why almost every important revolutionary man was 35+ and most are 45+
You need to get out, see the world, experience things, broaden your skillset, learn about people, culture, places, events. Then you can start to understand how to go about creating a sociological system that can be sustained.
Also, your skillset primarily being about air traffic control for the military won't help you much for a land and sea based operation.

Hahaha who the hell would fall for the obvious honeypot? "guys email me with your personal email so I may give you the password to my secret IRC channel where I will totally not harvest your IP for my CIA overlords"

Guys, you join him, you'll end up in a cell, I guarantee it.

>>31105115
Well, now, if I had a rig out there, I'd just be shitposting from a rig asking everyone here to join me. But that is not the case. This is why we need sales types to help get this to where it needs to go: investors who like or love the idea.

>>31105677
It sounds like you have no idea how to run an organization.

You say that people from the organization can negotiate with the UN. The problem is that you also say that you have no desire to negotiate.

So how will anything ever get done if you and your organization is constantly disagreeing with eachother?

>>31105719
Who are you fooling? Your organizational structure is all over the place and you have no sound plan to prop it up at all. What's the command structure? Who are you looking to hire? Is this a paramilitary outfit or a private military contractor? I have no idea what you're trying to do with this so I will stick to my gut that you're a honeypot agent trying to fuck with us.

>>31105713
yup

honestly, no one sane would actually join this

>>31105166
I can keep my head level. It is just my experience involves JNC2 (or JNC3 if you really want comms there) ,makeing one have to be ready for anything (SACs/STRATCOMs history does not make one feel a sense of safety at all times) that may end up being your last hour. Do you run, or do you do your duty to the end? It's how I just said "Hell, if bad stuff happens, why not see it though. You would possibly be in the blast anyways." Also not having slept for a while after having to make sure a friend did not make an irreversible mistake. That is possibly not helping. Whatever, such is life. I am glad you have found success in your business ventures though. It is impressive what you have accomplished. I hope maybe you would join us one day.

>>31105848
How old are you, son? Do you have any military experience? Do you know how to start a PMC that can operate internationally?

>>31105168
Why not? Email me if you want.

Lazia does not approve

>>31105871
Don't ignore me, you haven't addressed any of my issues you filthy kike shill.

>>31105174
>>31105210
Hope and info are the last things to go in war.

>>31105978
They are the first, actually.

>>31105633
Why would you join a group you don't align with in the first place? If a group lacks a firm ideal to act as a glue, it will either cease to exist or be worth nothing.

>>31105867
he answered it already
>>31105636

>>31102450
What are Aegis and what are they doing?

>>31105995
because he's talking about operating a business and an economy, and having people start families and stuff.
There is inevitably diversity in ideals in that structure, but he acts as if it's not the case.
He'd be hard pressed to find 600 people in the whole world that agree that closely to his ideals and are willing to adhere to them unwavering and have skill sets that his commune would make use of.

>>31106023
British PMC operating in Iraq and Afghanistan. Mostly paid to defend supply trucks and such.

>>31106008
Then he doesn't deserve anything, he's just a sad man that probably plays more video games rather than get anything accomplished.

>>31105978
holy shit
accepting that there are hopeless situations and learning to push through to your goal even when you know you won't reach it because other things depend on it is an essential part of what it means to be a soldier.

>>31105215

Estimated Costs for oil rig:
>>31104481
>And no go on making that as mother base: You don't want it to sink. It's why I'm pushing for Cyprus.
>I have not been under fire, but if I die, I die. I hope I lived a good life by then. It's why I'm working towards becoming a tactical paramedic in my county and do that until I feel ready to go do some contracts in the sandbox.
>Clear cut plans and time tables, logistical cost: well, there are not many things I would say here. Through an email, I would be more comfortable with that mode of communications on that.
>I was not here for that years ago.

>>31105251
Not stealing a damn thing: just wanting to have a nice, in writing, contract that says we get a slice of land and a few things, and we just wind up if Turkey comes back to STEAL IT FROM CYPRUS DO YOU NOT READ?

>>31106047
If so, how's it in any way connected with op's dreams of Outer Heaven?

How is it different from Xe, Triple Canopy or whoever else is now in control of the market?

>>31105097
the meaning flew over your head, the kind of investors you could count on to give you angel funds would have pretty terrible missions in mind for your brotherhood and hold fairly severe consequences in reserve if you broke their expectations

>>31105251
I'm sorry if I don't fit with your ideal picture of what you want to see in a PMC. I'm just not your kind of guy then.

>>31106210
Be honest, how many retards have you tricked into recruiting?

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>>31104481
>$5-10 million for the oil rig
Jesus, my sides

Do you know how many international rules and regs you have to be in compliance with just to set food on an oil rig? The list goes on and on and is constantly updating and needing more and more.

The cost just to maintain an average oil rig when not drilling or procuring or anything, base cost to keep it literally on its legs is in the region of 200-300 million a year. This does not count medical, food, supplies, logistics of keeping alive a workforce on it.

>>31106253
>set food
Meant set foot.

Can I get a condensed version of what's above? I really am not going to read all that shit.

>>31106149
Your cost of an oil rig is ridiculously low.
Like 1/20 the price.
If you want us to believe you actually care, then listen when we start pointing you in the way of research.

A) are you planning on avoiding taxes by being in international waters, or are you planning on technically having to pay your taxes to Cypress, because they have pretty high tax rates (30% for the pay you are suggesting giving your workers)
B) a texas based company already owns 70% of the rights of the offshore oil rig, so it's going to be extremely unlikely that you can get one of the 30% left to sell you an old rig
C) why on earth are you picking a country like Cyprus, which at the drop of the hat could be involved in serious war? Where did you get the idea for Cyprus I mean.
D)A new oil company in Cyprus would most likely violate their understanding with Egypt AND possibly US oil interests. What will you use as a deterrent?

>>31106188
OP wants a PMC that operates outside of the law, instead of within it, so he can institute his own laws. He wants to found a micronation for the purpose of keeping people in perpetual war so they become unified by their constant threat of death as well as the goal-oriented tasks.
He doesn't care about PMCs per se, he wants to use the PMC as a way of instituting a societal change so he can enact a quasi-commune.

>>31105313
I'm not a deity and don't look to become one. We can let in who we want. I would just not like a snack bar get rid of my fellow soldiers because some book or imam told him to. Plus, this is just based on history. That's all. Remove Kebab is going to be part of operations in the sandbox. Get over it.

Oh, and with your lovely choice of home grown freedom fighters: I don't care about who they were, I care about who they are now . They are now just bitter against westerners and anyone who is not like them. Not all of them, but enough to require security in some places.

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>>31106320
>He's chronically retarded

>>31106320
If people want to remove kebab, they can join xE and not some fucking retard on 4chan.

>>31103795
Lol >>31103651 is making a MGS joke.

>>31106320
>They are now just bitter against westerners and anyone who is not like them. Not all of them, but enough to require security in some places.
that is LITERALLY the point I am making
you are creating the same mentality with this stupid isolationist "we exist outside the law" pmc crap.
It's not about freedom. You can be free without this.
What you want is a romanticized, idealized version of a world where the soldiers doing the fighting aren't seen as the good guys or the bad guys, just the guys with guns in a poor attempt to repair the crushed mental state that war leaves soldiers in.
You can't save them by giving them a clubhouse.

Either you want an effective PMC, or you want to help military minded people live their lives better.
You can't have both.
Pick one, focus on that, and then you could theoretically succeed.

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>>31103795

>>31101866
Metal Gear lore is the most autistic thing on the planet. It is so convoluted and non-sensical, filled with anime characters in a Spaghetti Western style. Common themes are: mercenaries, Cyprus, third-world countries, black ops, brotherhood, betrayal. Cool stuff for a vidya gaem, but OP you've had enough. Tell your mom to stop paying for internet.

TO LET THE WORLD BE.

>>31104142
Using cryptocurrencies, exclusively online purchasing, operating your team not as company or entity but more of an online thinktank where ideas get expressed (such as mission lists, etc) but it becomes the individuals responsbility to actually take the job.

This desu.

>>31106434
>where ideas get expressed (such as mission lists, etc)

What in the fuck does this mean?

>>31106434
as a follow up, it could be interesting if they essentially created their own currency, a line of credit that could be extended via service or oil.
They don't accept cash payments, instead early on, they work on recruitment. They come in and do the mission while training the new additions. The client outfits the team with their equipment and at the end of the project, they essentially "borrow" the equipment, and they have new members. Said equipment is tagged for future work for said client only, and the soldiers recruited are also flagged for top priority for that client.
No actual money transaction for the services until they get big enough to maintain themselves, and after a set number of missions/value of missions, the equipment becomes becomes available for outright purchase by the group at a discounted rate (since they are used)
The oil is the only thing that brings in actual cash.

>>31106308
>for the purpose of keeping people in perpetual war

As commanded by Nex Alea.

>>31106460
Let me put it into perspective
>triggerpullers.tk
>BigBoss: OK boys, here's the contract to blow up a Saudi Prince, they want 5 guys, 1 BTC each. It seems reliable as fuck, who wants in?
>300confirmedkills: I'm in hell yeah time to show off my SCAR
>Rusbro: I come
>DoMoreHarm: You guys need medic? I come
>UnaBomber2: I'm totally in you guys, I wanted to test this here bomb for ages!
>GullibleAnon: Yay, my first job, count me in, I'm a very good with DMR!

>1 week later, GullibleAnon is reported dead, killed by random thugs who wanted to steal his gucci AR10 on the supposed meeting spot for a Saudi Prince assassination
>No one else showed up because their mom didn't let them or they were merely roleplaying
>Whole thing is shut down next month under terrorism charges, owner caught due to using same login/password chain on e-hentai.org.

>>31106460
Sort of like an email list.
A list of all the soldiers are available to the clients, with special contact info.
The clients send out their proposal to the whole list.
Individuals sign up to run the mission.
Since they are part of an organization, there is a set of terms they all agree to work for.
If no commanding officer/team leader signs up, it doesn't get picked up.
If one does, the mission is accepted, they individually email their payment details to the client, and the client sets up the pay and sends out the detailed instructions.
Mission gets run, they deliver as promise, the pay goes through.
Money doesn't flow through a third party, it's a direct client-to-worker payflow.
Since it's a commune, those workers would of course be giving up a portion of their money to a communal pool which is set aside for operational expenses not covered by oil sales.
Ideally you would be developing an application or this rather than email of course.

>>31106526
that's hilarious, but we're talking about the people living on the rig.

>>31105431
I mean we just do what ever we have to with the UN. That's all. No more, no less

.>>31105466
Yeah... you just literally described the entire field of marketing things that are not exciting.

>>31105485
I can email you some of my more coherent ramblings, if you want.

>>31105491
Well, it's why we need to start small but work towards gaining size and capability.
With Aegis, well, they just... don't have the vision... they just want to be in the UK doing what they do.
The ideology part is where if there is a contract, and no one wants it, we drop it. If several dozen want to go for it, they just go to contracting and get ready to deploy. I don't tell them where to go. I just help them find the work and might even go there myself. I'm not here to make a religion. I just want to live a dream with those of like mind.

>>31106549
>>31106536
Surprisingly, it's actually pretty close to what the 'online think-tank' anon envisioned.

>>31105530
Well, If you want more info, just email me and ask for specifics. If I don't have something, then I will tell you I don't have it.

>>31106560
>I mean we just do what ever we have to with the UN. That's all. No more, no less
that's not an answer
>>31106560
>Well, it's why we need to start small but work towards gaining size and capability.
but literally all of your plans here are starting big.
Where's the small plan?
And why do you think you bring anything to this equation? That's what I can't figure out. It sounds more like you just wish this place already existed so you could join, not that you have the sight or ability to create it.

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>>31106487
>The oil is the only thing that brings in actual cash.
You can't just drill a hole in the seabed and then catch all the oil that comes out. It is the most detailed, regulated and advanced science and engineering outside of the space program.

>It could be interesting if they essentially created their own currency, a line of credit that could be extended via service or oil.
That is not how currency works, outside of Zimbawe.

>>31106526
That isn't true because only a fraction of /k/ has firearms and those that do, an even smaller fraction has anything other than a nugget.

>>31106568
Why?
You don't seem to have specifics.
A) you are asking people to get involved in emailing you about specifics, but this thread shows you have zero idea what the specifics of anything are and you can't even explain how or why you came to the conclusions you did, just posing quasi philosophical questions that boil down to "Who says we CAN'T do this?"
B) you seem to be talking an awful lot in this thread. What could you possibly need email for. I mean, the fact that what you're talking about doing could get some anons in deep trouble if they were in an email conversation with someone on a rather unsecure account like, I dunno, gmail.com suggests that you don't understand much about cybersecurity.
C) why do you KEEP saying "email me" It's obvious no one wants to email you until they feel like you aren't a giant troll, and you haven't really tried to prove otherwise when half of your responses are "if you don't like it, I don't need to hear from you"

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Listen, I can't be bothered to read all that so answer my questions (be direct):
>what are you asking for
>what do you want us to do
>what is your goal
>why

>>31106603
A) We were talking about him buying an existing oil rig in waters outside of cyprus. Not sure why he picked that, but that presumes he's operating in a proven location.
B) I said could be interesting, not guaranteed to work.

>>31106644
not him, but he's
A) He wants to be reassured that there are people here that support the ideology of a military brotherhood lifestyle and that he's not having an adolescent daydream.
B) hes asking us to figure out the first 3 steps so he can step in at the "profit" stage with his expansion plan
C) His goal is literally MGS outer haven without metal gear or a nuke, and somehow self sustaining population
D) he feels useless now that he's out of his military environment because he doesn't know how to function in a society that is not constantly giving him orders and structure.

>>31103513
>We'd need airstrips and pilots and mechanics and fuel
>Incredibly expensive even with a domestic supply line
When in doubt, ask the Jews for parts and surplus.
>http://contact-kalia.com

>>31106655
>Not sure why he picked that, but that presumes he's operating in a proven location.
I'm sure it has got nothing to do with the fact Zero hid Big Boss there.

Beyond that, having been to Cyrpus on holiday, I can say it is quite pleasant and packed full of fucking tourists, in fact I would say that the majority of Cyprus' industry is geared towards tourism. I doubt they would approve of anything that negatively effects that income.

B) I said could be interesting, not guaranteed to work.
It's not possible to work unless you piggy-bank it on an existing cryptocurrency, if there was somebody here with his finger stuck right in to the cryto-currency market and could reasonably predict which one would have the greatest returns on early investment, that would probably do a great deal of good. First time I heard about bitcoins the exchange was like 1:50, when last I checked it was 1:650 which is a huge return in a very short amount of time.

>>31103643
>Doesn't the UN outright ban the use of PF's for aggressive/offensive actions?
>UN
>implying they enforce shit
Neal Ellis gave them the biggest middle finger ever
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC0zPngc4c

>>31106761
oh man, I had forgotten about that.

Jeeze man, I like the game a lot too, I even dress up as Venom, but the entire thing is a silly plot to explain how much war damages everyone. They tried this PMC stuff and it still went down in flames because eventually they pissed off the wrong people, or allied with the wrong people, or both, and because they aren't a powerful country in their own right, with their own strong economic trade agreements, it's literally the whole world against less than 1000 people.
It can't work outside the system because you eventually are faced fighting the system.
Thats the entire point of Boss' speech at the end of MGS4. He was talking about how Solid had achieved what he hadn't, the ability to live as a soldier but be at peace with his actions, because he wasn't just a hired gun, he was a man with principles who stood against an entire army if it meant keeping people safe. And that's what a soldiers real job is. Protecting those he fights for.

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Well OP even if this is bait or not, you sure have me convinced to join...
Poor,young,willing to learn and work for a /k/ause sign me up Big Boss

>>31101884
>I already know how to generate "Secret" clearance level passwords in 1 minute or less
lol, just string five random words together and you've got a password that would take five bajillion years to decipher. Number of characters is most important thing.

Soldiers Without Borders reporting in.
Basically we are still working on something similar to what OP was babbling about. But unlike him we are focusing on funding and training, not just "declare for me!"

>>31107194
wat? youre working on what?

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I'm in, Boss!

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>>31107278
How to seperate overweight, inexperienced, mallninjas from their mothers money.

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>>31101884
You are mentally challenged.

If you actually did have a clearance once, I'm sure the background investigation that greenlit you can be annulled now. I'm also sure you were some kind of worthless reject in whatever capacity the government gave you.

Keep enjoying your /k/ fantasies, but please do it in private. I don't want to see some poor anon suckered into disenfranchising himself by playing war to satisfy your ego and Metal Gear fandom.

You don't understand a damn thing, least of all soldiering.

>>31106526
I remember when a site like this was discovered, years back. It was basically a site masquerading as something totally normal but under the surface it served as a chat site and meetup arranger for contractors. Possibly including hiring people for assassinations. I can't really remember anything about it but it was pretty cool reading about how it was found and deciphered.

>>31106560
If you want to develop a military commune you should go to Syria, stake claim to a plot of land, and farm on it while letting the locals hire you and your guys for security every once in a while. Make fuck all money but get to fight (and get killed) and maybe once ISIS are destroyed whoever steps in to run the country will let you keep your territory and be sovereign. At that point you might have some measure of national influence?

I'd be up for spending a summer out there.

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>>31107507
>What is imagination

>>31107194
Funding, training, building a foundation. You cant just wake up one day and decide to make a PMC (or in OPs case, a cult), it takes a lot of time and effort.
>>31107311
Nope. I know mall ninjas dont habe any money, our crowd funding drive was a miserable failure. We habe reached out to several three letter agencies, but were politely told to go fuck ourselves. We keep reaching out, but we have found that there is no shortage of people willing to join us for free....but we habe no place to house them...oh and plane tickets are not free! Not to mention, its illegal as fuck to send a bunch of armed men overseas with out the OK of the Gov....but Dept of State did say they would give us the green light if we can actually make it happen.

>>31107555
Aye it probably was bullshit, like I said I read about this years ago and had forgotten about it until this thread.

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>>31107562
So, what you have is a bunch of ideas guys that have nothing but bad ideas, no concept of international law and no money?

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>this entire thread

You are young and immature. It seems to me that you have a lot of personal problems that cause you to want to live this fantasy.

I am not here to laugh at you but from your posts and information you have provided in this thread. If you join the infantry, go on tour, experience live combat, return and still feel passionate about this then best of luck to you.

I am not going to say yo can't do this and that. Ultimately, it's your life but be prepared to be let down and face the consequences of your actions.

>>31107602
No. What I have is a bunch of dedicated guys with skill sets.
>lawyer
>accountant
>PA
and they are former:
>Grunt
>intel
>medic
what OP fails to understand is that sending one guy over seas is easy...but housing him, feeding him, equiping him and supporting is expensive.
We are taking our time to build our foundation, networks and pipelines.
We have a few assets and money but we want to succeed, not just send a few guys to their deaths, so its not enough yet.
>we have thousands of dollars
>we need millions

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>>31107812
kek, what's your website then?

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>>31102084

>Did you read this, or just say "Autism" because you have no other words in your grasp?

Because it is, OP.

>>31107863
you can follow us on facebook. For now our "Miller" posts military related memes as a way of keeping our would be employees entertained.

>>31108601
I don't use facebook.

so young so much enthusiasm and hope for the world, either that or old and delusional.

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>>31104641
>tfw same boat
I just......... want outer heaven....................

Assuming that even posting in this or acknowledging this thread that currently my fucking credit card and dog are being fucking tracked by satellite
But anyway, u got ideas, while far fetched we can all agree, its a pretty rough idea as well but not brutally fucking silly, idk
Any plans for Japan, Zimbabwe, other than Cyprus?

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>>31104641
>Army
>Logistics
>International
>Contacts in US and Europe
>Own a suit
>Own firearms

>>31101866
Cringe as fuck
>>Inb4 MGS
>Proceeds to lay out a MGS fabrication
Literally end your life

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This is worst then when my French foreign legion commander send us somewhere we wanted to die.

Inb4 France even hints at having a word with I


#MAMABRONZE

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>>31105570
It's why I'm looking to bring in talent and gain skill myself.

>>31105571
It's not a no-ideology zone, it's a just-don't-murder-people-and-risk-lives-over-lies zone. That's all.

>>31105573
I was a govt employee. One can hold their clearance for a number of years after employment. It's not like this board is totally not monitored from before.

>>31105633
It's a question of do you like where I am going? If yes, join me. If not, I'm not going to drag anyone anywhere. Hell, go start a PMC of your own or join one. I'm just one among equals.

>>31105665
Yes, this thread is just somewhere to start getting serious movement towards what we are heading to.

>1. Territory (secure at least a portion of it)
>1.a. Secure finances or have a plan to do so
Territory would hopefully be a slice of Cyprus. Good reasons to pick it. One can start seeing why the location would be ideal for a PMC. For funding, well, we will get there: but how long, it's anyone's guess.

2. Form a group to work on a legal system, figure out your priorities
This is where the law guidelines are enumerated from previous posts.

3. Diplomacy: establish yourself as a sovereign, allied nation
This is where playing nice with Cyprus is important.

4. Nation: build a sense of national identity through school/propaganda/etc. Won't be fully in effect until the 3rd generation or so, so don't sweat it
Well, it's to be a PMC-> /k/ountry built by volunteers.

>>31109978
If youre serious OP start outlining some plans, a list of shit to do, how you really plan on executing this, fucking anything?

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>>31110035
Do you own a ps4 and Terraria? I want to built a /k/ as fuck fort on it with some fuckers but nobody has it.

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>>31110035
Right now you're talking at least 5-6 full steps ahead of the bare basic ground work you need to have built up and established before you can begin bringing in people en mass like this.

You need a source of income that is not tied into what you're hoping to build. Loans, financing, etc aren't going to happen unless you have a solid business plan set up, like a full 5 year plan starting from day 1 on up.

So many people have daydreamed, wished for or even in some cases tried and failed at what you're hoping to do and the biggest reason for failure, jumping the gun. No one actually set up a small scale operation that could be tried and tested. Everyone wants to jump into another country and start operations before they have anywhere close to a semblance of logistics established.

You need a skeleton crew first and foremost, roughly a dozen people that you've met, ones that you trust and can depend on. You need property where they can live on and jobs they can work so they can have an income while you're building up your plans.

You'll need a cook, a firearms instructor, radio operator, and medic at the very least, in addition to whatever other skills you think necessary. Rappelling, long range marksmanship, etc. These will be your core. Have them practice their skills during their off time form their day jobs. Ensure they're proficient enough to pass this knowledge onto others. When you're good and ready and they've saved up enough from their jobs, they can quit.

Bring in the next group, get them regular jobs for income, set up with housing like the first group, and have your core group train them. Do it in stages. Everyone does basic Rifle Training, then Basic First aid, so on and so forth.

Each group that gets fully trained can then help with expanding the camp afterwards. Build more housing, build more training grounds, etc etc.

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>>31110290
>You'll need a cook, a firearms instructor, radio operator, and medic at the very least,

Are you an idiot? You need a Lawyer for employent, for international law, for contracting, for localized area law, Africa, Middle-East, etc. You need fixers and guides and local lines of supply.

You're not in Metal Gear Solid you fag, you have all sorts of back end shit that ties up way more resources and manpower than any other thing. For fucks sake their are ISO regs for contracting overseas.

>>31101884
>cyprus
Fuck no, first off it's under protection from the three guarantors, the UK, Turkey and Greece
second it's a shitty near barren island with almost no modern infrastructure and what it does have, has been horribly maintained by the locals. And again I want to point out that there is a literal fuck-ton of Turks, Brits and whatever flavor of UN blue helmet retards there.
Source: Lived there for two years

>>31110354
I'm not even talking about leaving the United States yet. Everyone thinks the first step is leaving the US, it's NOT. You need to have everything you have planned to do worked out, tried and tested here in the homeland before you try and ship that shit off overseas.

Why not get some land in reservation territory?

>>31110381
Read the remaining 9/10s of what I said. You still need all these over in the US, more so.

>>31110419
You need to spell out for me exactly what you think lawyers are needed for because you're clearly missing my point and I can't tell how far off you are to be able to correct this misunderstanding.

>>31110479
TO
FIND
OUT
WHAT
IS
LEGAL
AND
WHAT
IS
NOT
WHEN
ENGAGING
IN
THE
POTENTIAL
FOR
LETHAL
FORCE
WHEN
ON
US
SOIL.

If this is too much, it can be further condensed in to FIND OUT WHAT BAD. I could probably drop the out too if that again is too much.

>>31110510
You're like 3-4 steps ahead of where I am. I'm not even talking about giving the group work in relation to their training. You need to be TRAINED before you can WORK in the specified field. When I referred to everyone needing jobs, I mean NORMAL jobs, like a regular 9-5 as a cashier, retail, etc, something they can do to sustain themselves because it's clear that funding would not be readily available to cover the cost of housing and food for said individuals.

>>31110557
Yes, and before you begin gathering a team you need to discover if this is actually legally, financially and practically viable. Before even the first shot is fired in training.

Are you going to get a Class III for full autos?
Are you giong to get the supplies needed to bullet proof vehicles?
Are you going to spend the money to lobby for contracts?
Are you going to gather permits to obtain and carry in all US State?
Are you going to run background checks on people that join?
Will you get access to the nofly list, watchlists?

>>31110609
Again you're about 5-6 steps ahead of me. Right now you're trying to teach someone how to build a clock. I'm just trying to teach them how to tell time.

>>31105687
I don't expect this to happen overnight. I'm patient. I'm here for the long haul.
This is why I'm working towards becoming a tactical paramedic in my county before eventually going the PMC medic contractor route. that will be about the time-frame you listed. I am going to take your advise.
Also, Command Post Controller has nothing to do with ATC, but instead with controlling flow of info between units and OICs while dealing with emergencies.

>>31105713
It's fine if you want to believe that. You do you.

>>31105724
Why have someone like me, who is less caring about the ambassador duties, versus someone who wants to go do such work. I'd let someone like that take the lead in that if they want to.

>>31105450
Well change it to Cyprus, then yeah, welcome aboard. This is a thread to actually get the ball rolling.

>>31105452
We just keep up appearances and attend the dog and pony shows when we need to.

>>31105500
It's why I'm heading the route to become a better person and will work to plant the seeds to make this happen.

>>31105502
We have some time to collaborate and work out the details and refine them.

>>31110647
Appernetly you've been ignoring the thread.
CYPRUS IS A GOD AWFUL CHOICE.
as stated
here >>31110355
There are three nations not including the cypriots and blue helmets that will push your shit in.

>>31110677
Also worth noting, Cyprus is a tax haven for several large nations like Russia, so fucking with Cyprus will draw some very bad attention from some very powerful armies.

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A fucking /k/ kompound filled with /k/ammandos

I'm ok with this.

>>31110701
Actually just before I left this summer, one of the top guys in the armenian mob got whacked at a night club. Also said banks where russians hide their money also hid (and may still) money from terrorist groups. It's a small unassuming island that has quite a bit of power in it's players.

>>31104585
>Cyprus: they need the northern territory to recover financially. If we offer something thing they cannot refuse, then, why not. Also, putting an office there early on and building a good relationship with the locals will help out from a PR perspective.
>Oil Rig: so that we have some type of constant income. And for monitoring the seas and airspace near us.
>the 600 are to be rotated out on a quarterly basis.
>No way we should or can put that many people on a rig. Only a quarter of that should be out there.

>>31104641
>>31108812

When our capabilities grow, we would have some trainers there (Gurkas would be nice for that).
We can use some STEM types or skilled labor too.

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I can see it now. Who's going to be your Miller
https://youtu.be/EaABZqW4DNg

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Why not just put an oil rig in the Seychelles anfld call it a day? Getting Cyprus would be a pain in the ass and expensive as shit

>>31111249
I highly doubt that you can take on the Turks, Brits, Greeks, UN or any Russian/general crime gangs on the island. Not to mention the TRNC whose land you'd be attempting to take.

>>31106397
I had to have fun with taking it seriously. But, yeah, English and French (not much) would be what we use.

>>31106400
No, we would be a society that makes its own reasonable laws. We would be under our own law, as no one is to be above it. Not you, not me, no one. But at least we get to write it.

>>31106400
Why can't we have both?

>>31106425
This was already in me before I even gave a damn about MG lore. I have ideas of my own on how we can accomplish some things. But I can only do so much on my own.

>>31106434
>>31106460
Pay would be in USD, or its equivalent in silver (valued @ $20 per oz.) and/or gold (valued @ $1200 per oz.) in troy ounces (eventually. we would have to do many things in USD before even using precious metals).
We would find contracts, or contractees find us. Doing the occasional raid on a terrorist held oil resource would be nice to bolster our economics.

>>31106487
We could attempt to start a minimalistic bank somewhere in Europe (or Cyprus) in a tiny country no one cares about to handle some of our financial affairs. It would help our legitimacy and improve our international standing.

>>31106517
Welcome to the club. You at least understand.

>>31106526
It would be more like mortar teams in hinds and more hinds. FOs would be of great value. And also, no one would be allowed to go without having training, and proven competency. Don't want people to die pointlessly, if at all.

>>31106536
You have a good idea, but it would be better to do things in person (like contract/subcontract negotiations). Harder to mess over people when everyone has at least a sidearm on them.

>>31106584
I don't think the most useless and vampirical public entity on earth is who we really want to deal with unless we must. We should never sell out, and just be wary.

We can have several smaller PSCs/PMCs that we create and eventually merge. That would be a nice multi-pronged approach.

The part about about our /k/ountry with nuggets as the primary arm would not be the case when we bring in weapons that use 5.45x39.

>>31106628
Don't want to show my entire hand all at once. Basic control of info, and need to know.
>Point A
Ask, and you shall receive.
>Point B
The details would be spoken over a Voip server in another country that is not on anyone's radar. I would like to have my own email server, but currently am not a blip on anyone's radar (that would care and do anything about it).
>Point C
At worst, the email gets no response. It's just laziness if one can't even write a damn email, or bother to talk over team-speak.

>>31106644
>what are you asking for
For input, ideas, suggestions, and support tangible and intangible

>what do you want us to do
Prepare yourselves, and do what you can to be better everyday until we can make our moves.

>what is your goal
A military/contracting country that is owned by no one but itself. Somewhat like the Cossack Hetmanate, but we contract to who we want, and don't answer to any entity that just wants to play nice.

>why
Why not build the freest country in the world? Why not just do the most amazing place to call home? We would not be beholden to anyone but ourselves, but we would do things together.

>>31111528
You still havnt answered >>31110048

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>>31101866
Tbh senpai theres should be a /k/ militia kek

>>31106690
A) I want those who want to join, to come with out and be willing to do their part.
B) I will do my part even before your "Profit" stage. I'm willing to put my ass, resources, and what ever I have to get there.
C) Funny you say that. We can talk about things that make Intel guys blush when I talked about nukes and other things. plus, there are better systems IRL than the fictional metal gear.
D) Some of us do feel that way. I still would be ok if the AF gave me 1 year to get ready to go into the SOWT pipeline. It would help me become a better person and help make this "Outer Heaven" more possible.

>>31106759
Thank you very much!

>>31106655
Well either that or, have one build and put it there.

>>31106761
Actually, no: it is because we would be near where our contracts would be, it has a nice size for an island, it has proven oil drilling, we can not be invaded by land, and we can have theater reach missile systems hit any port that attempts to launch and attack from there before the enemy navy can properly respond. Also, if we bring work/economic growth to them while we keep our noisier business away from the tourist locations, they will be fine with us.

>>31106785
Yes... these are real men among men.

And that frenchman knows how to go on holiday.

>>31106848
We would be a country of soldiers can do other trades too. The cooks can fight. The textiles guys can fight. All sailors can fight. Nearly everyone would be able to fight or support in some way. Even a blind man can help in the armory (with someone to make sure his work is good).

>>31107132
Welcome aboard, comrade. I'm happy that you stand with me as I will stand with you.

>>31107175
Well, yes. To a degree, that is how some things are secured. I'm not going to say what though. But good that you happened to stumble on that.

>>31107194
I'm not running a cult: just looking to find brothers in arms who want to join together on this exercise in freedom.

>>31107279
Welcome aboard, friend. I thank you for your support.

>>31107311
We only want those who want to do something and mean something.

>>31107485
Nice projection. At least you picked the handsome man picture.

>>31107507
things that I, and everyone here, is sure did not happen.

>>31107537
We don't want to have HQ taken out snack-bars on turf they already know well.
But hey, why not join?

>>31107562
>Funding, training, building a foundation. You cant just wake up one day and decide to make a PMC (or in OPs case, a cult), it takes a lot of time and effort.
Well, this is why I am doing what I can to become an example to others. I'd be about BB's age in PW by the time I feel we can coordinate and move in the ways we need to.

>>31107562
>>31107812
Well, good job on even getting this far. You should be proud of yourselves: I am proud of what you managed with this administration.

>>31107808
I am looking to become a tactical paramedic in my county and then go get some work with a PMC until I can take a shot at NSW Reserve Officer. I gave up being afraid of dying long ago. If it happens, it happens. At least you have given good advise.

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>>31112062
>I'd be about BB's age in PW by the time I feel we can coordinate and move in the ways we need to.

Yes but Big Boss is an experienced soldier of fortune with superhuman endurance and intelligence working for a cause that does not revolve around Metal Gear Fandom. By comparison, you are a shitposter on 4chan who would trade his rifle for air conditioning after one day.

>>31108887
>>31108887
Japan is no go for a handful of reasons.
Zimbabwe will just be the Bush War 2.0 with less support (or too much too soon)
Cyprus keeps home base safe while be able to drill for resources. We would mine/gain mining rights when we gain the ability to in places beyond Cyprus.

>>31109190
Welcome. You're pretty good.

>>31109403
Go elsewhere. Leave. Just a suggestion there.

>>31109752
What did I just read?
Whatever. If you are FFL, that would be welcome.

>>31110048
>>31111642
Email me and ask for anything. If I have it, I would be happy to oblige. If I don't I will tell you.

>>31110290
This is why I am happy when you point out something. Thank you for actually doing something useful here. I am happy to read what you put here. I just don't want to dictate how people should contribute. That's why I would like to hear what others have to say. I have about 10 years to have learned what I need to learn, and experience what I need to experience to help move us forward.

>>31110354
Good catch. This one know what we need in that sphere as well. A bit enthused, but useful.

>>31110355
Turks can be dealt with. They only need to be dropped by NATO (not soon enough) and they only need to seen to be aggressors. The Blue Helmets can't and won't do much when it the Turks are seen attacking Cyprus unprovoked. Any military action with the blessing of the Cypriot Govt in response would be legitimate in the eyes of the world.

>>31110355
We can manage with some bad infrastructure from "reclaimed northern territory".

>>31110381
Good call. We should have a few dry runs.

>>31110404
No way they are willing to give up land. And you still have the USG to deal with.

>>31110479
Good, good. This is productive. Seriously.

>>31110510
Understood.

>>31110557
I'm personally working on that.

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>>31101866
Honestly, if you come and get my ass there and provide me necessities for living and pay me good enough salary, then i'm in. For the sole reason of that it would be interesting.

>>31110609
>Yes, and before you begin gathering a team you need to discover if this is actually legally, financially and practically viable. Before even the first shot is fired in training.
True.


>Are you going to get a Class III for full autos?
We are not going to deal with that hear. To much work for too little.

>Are you giong to get the supplies needed to bullet proof vehicles?
Pick up some light armor from the Czech Rep for that.

>Are you going to spend the money to lobby for contracts?
Meh, why not?

>Are you going to gather permits to obtain and carry in all US State?
Um, yeah, that's a hell of a job on it's own.

>Are you going to run background checks on people that join?
Yes. Only exonerated/pardoned felons are ok at all.

>Will you get access to the nofly list, watch-lists?
No need. Literally forcing someone to join the CG Aux is a free FBI background check. Takes awhile, but it is thorough.

>>31110701
>>31110793
We should intend to play nice with Russia, US, France, Greece, Israel, and a few others (Cyprus again)

>>31111320
We can have multiple Millers be just as angst ridden without limb reductions.

>>31111377
Further away from contracting regions and logistical difficulties multiply. Plus, they don't have as good an economic standing as Cyprus.

>>31111390
The Turks can be dealt with if handled swiftly.
The Brits would be mad to see it come from the Turkish side first. And would attempt to assist the Cypriots. At this point, we would have been working as a company winning the "hearts and minds" of the locals. Greeks are in no position to do much but assist the Cypriots. The gangs won't do much, but would like to look at new territory to look into (and maybe attempt to subcontract as "people with special skill" for future operations.
Oh, and the TRNC have no legitimate claim.

>>31111651
Or a PS/k/

>>31112125
I lived on a south pacific island without running water and power for 6th month. It did not bother me one bit. Jump in the ocean, bring soap, towel off. Buy drinking water, or collect it from the rain. I have seen storms nearly kill my family and I, but it just made me have a love for shitty weather. I loved San Antonio in the summer and felt really good running there. I can live without air con. Plus, I was really fit working to get into the SOWT pipeline, but could not go because of my surface swim. Working to correct that now.

>>31112173
It's what the oil rig will help us do. I'm happy to have you on board.

Wow, this would be a really good idea if any of us had a couple billion dollars lying around

>>31112233
We can always sell the world.

>>31112248
well if you ever want a run-of-the-cill canuk bushwhacker call me in. I only really know boreal survival. Rule of thumb if you see a cougar then don't panic cause 9/10 odds are it saw your first and decided you ain't dinner. Course issue is it might maul you anyways or it's mate is actually stalking you but hey. That's why we never go alone boys n gals.

>>31112261
Welcome, friend. We can always use a good man like you.

>>31112267
sweet deal! Here's hopin we spill some Crown together eh? Take it easy!

>>31112271
What goes good with Crown? I was thinking something like a chicken cordon bleu?

>>31112289
Well, my experience has taught me ice, a deck of card and a crib board. Maybe orange juice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty

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So OP is basically having a mental breakdown right? That's really the only way I could imagine someone with zero real world experience could think he could run some ideological"Private Military" in any capacity. There's so much wrong with this idea it reminds me of reading about Hitler's delusions in the Fall of 1944.

Especially to think that more than >1% of /k/ is in any way qualified to participate, set up, or operate in this ridiculous fantasy. We're all D-E class, MGSV standards.

>uses the phrase "true believer" multiple times
>Weapons related
>Clearly ideological
To me it sounds like you just really want to meet the FBI

>>31112375
Except Ricky, but I think he's a little busy at the moment

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Threads like this reminds me to never show my powerlevel to per more date attractive autistic girls.

Jesus Christ

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>>31112213
Notice you didn't deny shitposting on 4chan. You're pretty good.

>>31112375
I'm working towards actually doing something about myself, and improve a little everyday.

>>31113028
Already had my SSBI. I'm good.

>>31113039
Been forever since I seen him anywhere.

>>31113126
Just having a bit of fun when I can.

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>>31113714

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>>31101866
Last time I followed a man with a dream it got my hand cut off, my eye gouged out, and my waifu raped. Fuck off

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Dude...

>>31114559
Well then, we just put your status as "Not Hired"

Why don't you stage a military coup and form Zanzibar Land instead?