What does /k/ think of the F-35 also fighter jet thread?

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>F-35
It's probably a good jet.

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>>31089148

>>31089148
slow as fuck. otherwise it's okay. good enough against 3rd world airforces.

>>31089148
waste of money

it's a turkey

>>31089148
Pretty shit i would say, too much money went on that crap

>>31089708
>Implying a loaded F-16 can go above 1.6 anyways
>Implying a loaded F-16 can pass 6G

>>31090517
>>31090525
>>31090527
>Spreyposters

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>>31089148

Unproven but on paper it's leagues above it's competition. Even if it's never combat proven, it'll have served it's purpose as a deterrent. I have a feeling they'll see some action bombing brown people soon.

The sensors are amazing. It'll be a force to be reckoned with and any IADS will have trouble with it.

>>31092230
>Unproven
https://fightersweep.com/4337/f-35s-conduct-deployment-test-at-mountain-home/

I'd call that as much proof of excellence as anything could be.

>>31089148

Its great. However its not as cheap as some people is trying to tell you.

Or well, it will be cheap for the US who orders thousands of it but every export program so far has been far from cheap.

It's shit but it has some paid shills that would argue with you otherwise.

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>>31092263
No, it is not.

The F-15 is a proven aircraft. It has 100+ AtA kills for zero AtA losses. That is proven.

Performing well in an exercise shows potential, but it is not the same.

>>31092402
>Performing well in an exercise shows potential, but it is not the same.
>The only way to test a fighter is by throwing it into combat!
Full. Fucking. Retard.

>>31092589
>Performing well in an exercise with predetermined waypoints and storyline is the same as combat duty.

>>31089148
>What does /k/ think of the F-35 also fighter jet thread?

Overblown, overhyped dogshit meant to waste money, and a lot of it. The point is the money churn, not whether or not you get an actual functioning aircraft out of the deal.

The US is totally fucked.

>>31092635
>Implying the US has used "check the box" instead of realistic training ever since the first Red Flag
You're an idiot. US training exercises are specifically designed to mimic combat as closely as possible.

>>31092655
Fuck off back to WiB, Dave.

It doesn't have the loiter time or the payload to be a good CAS platform.
It doesn't have the climb, top speed, or high-AOA turn to be a good A2A platform
It doesn't have enough internal payload to be a decent bomber.
It costs two hundred million bucks a pop and does absolutely nothing especially well.

And it will replace pretty much all of american jet fighters.

>>31092771
It's worse than that.

>A single Air Force F-35A costs a whopping $148 million. One Marine Corps F-35B costs an unbelievable $251 million. A lone Navy F-35C costs a mind-boggling $337 million.

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>>31092771

t.

>>31092771
>Loiter time
Better than current single engine fighters without tanks.
>Climb
Equal to a F-16
>Top speed
Better than a F-16 when equipped with A2A missiles
>Payload
It has more internal payload than anything it replaces.

Seriously tho, who said that its supposed to be a bomber, its not a fucking B-52

>>31092771
>It doesn't have the loiter time or the payload to be a good CAS platform.
Nearly 3 times the combat radius and 2000lbs more than the A-10 isn't good enough?

>It doesn't have the climb, top speed, or high-AOA turn to be a good A2A platform
So the 31 pilots with an average of ~1500 hours in legacy airframes rating its performance as favorable over those planes are wrong?

>It doesn't have enough internal payload to be a decent bomber.
Same as the F-117's bomb load AND has a pair of AIM-120D, and same loadout as a maxed F-16 in full stealth.

>It costs 85 million bucks a pop and does everything better than the airframes it will replace.
FTFY

>>31092841
>LRIP4 and earlier numbers
Idiot.