/k/ invades an alien planet

>>31014833
>only genetic manipulation tools
Engineer a virus that only targets the aliens, mop up the survivors conventionally.

>>31015039
1% survival rate (already extremely unlikely amount) of just 1 billion original population would still be 10 million aliens vs 10,000 transhumans. That's assuming they don't even try to limit the scope of the damage.

Suppose it's something more realistic like 12% survival rate and infects 70% of say, 3 billion population. That leaves you with ~1.2 billion to deal with still.

Don't think that's anywhere close to a winnable fight without nukes etc. on top of things, and those aren't allowed

Maybe a genetic kill-switch would be better - but then you'd need to somehow get that kill switch into the population DNA, and then propogate it through a majority of the population before triggering it, and the longer it takes, the more likely it is that mutations deactivate the kill switch or otherwise make it useless.

Hell, a few hundred years of development and they'd be examining their own DNA and making changes to it.

I don't think bioweapons would be effective at killing more than 70% of the population even in the best case scenarios. According to OP they should already have rudimentary vaccination programs.

>>31015227
Give every alien severe asbergers and make it generationally passable, wait.

>>31014833
Uhhh just do it typical earth ufo conspiracy style

Abduct and replace and collaborate with heads of state for their short term gain that is a stepping stone to eventual human backed vichy hegemony

At that point population control and manipulation can be done with less know side effects of modern stuff; like alleged chemtrails and flouridation and tinfoil hats, except for real this time and we're doing it to aliens

>>31014833
Why do we need to exterminate the aliens? Couldn't we just make them our subjects, or even better, convince them to join us?

Indoctrinate aliens that /k/ skeleton cock feels the best. Alien birth rates fall as we infiltrate their ranks and become the aliens Jews

>>31015303
Hit enter too fast and didnt provide final strats;

Once we control their planet's governing entities, disinformation and panic can be used; fake disasters and refugee/death camps, viral scares and rapid govt response with a free vaccine that sterilizes everyone, or mentally neuters them in subserviencr to humanity or substance dependence, or oh no an asteroid is going to destroy the planet, no worries, state sponsored transportation to orbital habitats is free for all takers! (Cept those rockets just jettison cargo to burn up in orbit before returning for the next batch)

Sure there will be holdouts in any of yhe above, but you could probably wipe out the species on account of lack of genetic diversity

Nuclear bombardment from orbit. (Fuck the biosphere) Exterminate the survivors who resist with mechanized drones and chemical warfare. (Including flamethrowers in with biological agents. Gotta get in every nook and cranny in those pesky fallout bunkers.) Those who surrender are sent to camps where they're given a shower.

Once the planet is completely un-fucking-inhabitable and desolate, strip it of all it's natural resources. (Metals, natural gases, precious metals, whatever) Then leave the barren husk and move on to the next batch of sorry fucks.

Step One: engineer a plague based on the Ayys.

Step Two: build war-bots in a relatively isolated area (ie, land on a small patch of isolatem land like antarctica, an island, or even the ocean floor if possible). If possible, make clones. If we have brain-comp transfer, we could feasibly copy-paste the memories of combat vets into clones as necessary. We may not even need the robo factory on the planet, its moon may make an ideal base for industry.

WMDs may be verbotten, but we dont need that. Robot drones will ID key infrastructure and stuff.

step 3: "cure" the plague. We cure it, but inside the vaccine/cure is another., slow acting plague.

Step 3.5: as necessary, try to play them against each other. Promises of wealth, etc.

step 4: as the survivors get hit with a double-whammy, unleash superior firepower. Rail yards? Gone. Port infrastructure? Gone. Factories? Gone. Banks? Gone. Robot spies should already have ID'd these. Our collaborators from 3.5 may be useful in ID'ing remaining hideouts, or may be retained as useful proxy-leaders.

>smart munitions: it is in our advantage to use thermal/IR targeting from an elevated position, where they cant target. A "balloon" observation post armed with disease-tipped germ-weapons would be able to provide overwatch over large areas.

Hey! How about -

>[7] We want the biosphere intact and the planet left habitable, mass destruction is VERBOTEN

Welp. That's several ideas out the window.

Memetic warfare, though... How about religion? Introduce several.

They have to be closely related, because to resonate with as many aliens as possible they have to have some things they all agree about. What it is depends on the physiology and history/culture if the aliens. Safest bet is an answer to a fear, like the unknown.

Now make it a central doctrine of every single one of them that there is only one true religion, and every other religion is an affront to whatever concept or entity is being worshipped. Call for war. Make several of the religions ask for the subjugation of others, for the spread of the one true pantheon or whatever.

Whenever possible, make intellectual pursuits a crime/blasphemous, to keep them from moving forward technologically and philosophically.

Refrain from elevating self sacrifce, compassion, integration, peace and understanding as virtues, because that's when you have religious leaders calling for peace.

Every time it seems some of the faiths are starting to dominate, fracture them. Call for war.

Are there any obvious phenotypical differences among the alien population? Convince them to practice phenotype endogamy whenever possible. Lowers resistance to disease, increases the chance of fatal mutations wiping out whole bunches of aliens, and it will provoke the emergence of socio economical divides among phenotype "groups".

Now target the least favoured and blame their woes on the most favoured. Target the most favoured and breed contempt and fear of the least favoured. Do this for every single observable phenotype difference, no matter how small. Some of them are bound to stick.

Then tell them humans are deities coming to cleanse the infidels.

>>31015329

Waaaay too likely they turn on us

>>31014833

Just give the Aliens Space HIV,

>>31015456
>step 3: "cure" the plague. We cure it, but inside the vaccine/cure is another., slow acting plague.
I like those idea, but instead of a plague make it sterilize the ones that take the antidote. As the population dies off just begin taking over areas the aliens can't inhabit because of the decrease in population. Then just wait until the current generation is too old to fight back and take over completely.

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>>31014833
>[7] We want the biosphere intact and the planet left habitable, mass destruction is VERBOTEN
>[8] The planet must become human property by whatever means possible; aliens dead and gone preferable
>>31014833
>11] Our technology is roughly equivalent to a transhumanist society - what is depicted in Eclipse Phase is a rough idea - mind-machine transfer, advanced robotics, AI, genetic manipulation, etc.

-swarm bots
make a lot of resource cheap robots (flying circular saw) with an intelligence in only leaders/controllers
this takes away the numerical supererogatory of the aliens
-targeted bio and chemical weapons
a simple disease alone can thin the ranks by a lot and the social panic and disruption it will make is even more devastating
chemical weapons on large population centers do maximum kills to minimum damage to environment

>genetic manipulation tools and the capacity for memetic warfare
genetic manipulation = start with a disease that will kill a lot but will strike more fear of getting it into the population (gruesome death or insanity or infertility and no cure and not all the ways it transfers is known)
then use the memetic warfare to make sure that everyone knows of it and fears it on a personal level
start an epidemic and a fear campaign about it (think like a zombie holocaust) at the height of the epidemic and the social unrest from the fear of it deploy cem weapons on large population centers especially ones not hit hard by the epidemic and the social unrest --- then deploy the swarm bots on the population priority targeting healthy people first then the infected
--- this will destroy a culture and society so as to put them in a very deep "dark age" and break any large organized resistance
--- with our mind-machine transfer and advanced robotics our 10,000 personnel will never really drop in force if they have robotic bodes what can just be replaced if damaged and the mind is "backed up"

>>31015227
Not a lot of those 10 million are going to survive a civilizational collapse and a sudden transition to agriculture.

None of them will survive the good old organophosphate nerve agent gambit.

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>>31015929
then with advanced robotics and AI with lower intelligent "swarm bots" see >>31015929 you have a force multiplayer that makes your force numerically superior as well as technologically and tactically ---- every one of your troops can kill several times the number of there troops, you have more of them, and your losses are easier to replace.

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did someone say ayys?

>>31014833
"Alien Gods" play.
>Probe phase
Use genetic manipulation to turn them all into humans, or at least capable of breeding with humans.
They're warlike? Fine, tell them of our love for war. Show them historical human battles, and see their battles. The probe should have been recording every battle possible since it's arrival.
The probe will act as War Councillor as well well as the catalyst of societal change, starting almost immediately upon arrival. It should be capable of training natives in warfare, personal combat, tactics, and medicine, in the process of genetic modification, as well as learning and developing a medical database for their unmodified people as well as modified people and their hybrids with humans.
>Warship arrives,
3 Billion people stage a mostly bloodless "WW2 (Re)Enactment" for our benefit, we offload 10,000 old souls and load up 10,000 of our new brethren to go see the homeland.
The 10,000 crew are engineers and scientists, the gifts of technology that come with being human.
The warship leaves the combat section behind, basically the "face" of the ship detaches, holding thick armor plate and 99% of the weapons.
The tech crews lead the new humans in scavenging and refitting this combat package into a fleet of ships.
The 10,000 specially selected new humans go to a terraforming in progress to learn about that, and also go to see a few possible locations for their planet to start terraforming. Along the way they learn about spaceflight, vessel engineering, fuel systems, life support, etc.
The goal being to educate the new humans so that they can educate themselves and come to their own understanding of the world, and be strong allies at our side when times are tough.
Then, when all of this has been accomplished, we sit back and enjoy the blue/green/red scaly/furry/slime pussy/ass/cock.
And cool alien guns. I want me some Alien WW1 guns.

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>>31016022
then start search and destroy operations on any form of resistance followed by sweep and clear operations on survivors
--- keep a force at the ready to hold the planet (the 10,000 immortal personnel and AI's that have taken it can do this very well) and start the first steps in getting the planet ready for colonization (the 10,000 immortal personnel and AI's are the first pioneers and colonist)

>>31014833
Set up a small base of operations operation in a remote area where we will be relatively undetected and is resource rich.

If not remote but still resource heavy, make a deal with the local primitives, maybe even if they are in a separate governments like Terra in it's early stages, that we will give them resources to surpass others if they let us set up operation in their area. If not, a show of force is all that will be necessary.

Upon setting up operation, set up/retool factories for the war effort for power armor and robotics. Offer the locals transcendence. Unification among this race may lead to a pocket empire that can be swiftly integrated into a checkpoint for empire for travel among the stars.

Any threat of nukes or damage to the biosphere will be swiftly and surely eliminated with unprecedented force.

>>31015505
i see what you did there

>and now im sure they are amongst us, but i still have bubblegum on me so imma chill

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>>31016083
so make the aliens into humans?
it works!!!
why transport colonist when you can just make them at the new location?
terraforming is not needed as the new "humans" are adapted to the environment already
and we now have a new race of humans
cat girls and elves for the win

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It seems like if you've got a thousand years, there's a relatively simple solution.

>wait a quarter century or so for multiple races to develop weapons of mass destruction
>drop nerve gas on one faction's city and nukes on another one's
>massive nuke/gas war ensues
>lol
>put footage on youtube for that ad revenue
>genetically engineered plagues and crop blights to fill in the gaps where the aliens haven't already destroyed themselves, their governments are busy dealing with a nuclear and chemical war, even if they notice it, they'll attribute it to the other guy
>by the time they've figure out what happened, they've reverted to the neolithic
>settlers can use their own nerve agents to pick off what's left, the same way a farmer would deal with crop blight

There'd be a decent degree of environmental damage, but probably not as much as would occur from a sentient species industrializing normally.

>>31016200
Right?
But the terraforming wasn't for their planet, it's just to make nasty dustballs inhabitable.

Combine >>31015456 with>>31015505

Phase One: Introduce one or more religions. A common thread in the religion(s) is an apocalypse narrative that ends with their gods arriving to usher forth an age of peace and prosperity. Let the religion(s) cultivate and become a least a major belief system. While this is going on, use the biological data we're gathering on the aliens to engineer a plague with a high rate of spread and high resilience. Bonus points if it have no distinctive symptoms until well within the terminal phase.

Phase Two: As the invasion force is about to reach the planet, unleash the plague using several vectors for disease. Plant rumors and false data that implicates various nation-states, ethnicities, social castes, etc. of either being the origin of the plague and/or are weaponizing it to further their agenda. Ideally this will lead to societal collapse and the aliens turning more towards our artifcial religions.

Phase Three: Our force makes planetfall as prophecied. The plague is cured for the believers and we use them as shock troops to aid in eliminating any resistance.

Phase Four: use our superior technology to create a Childhood's End scenario where the population becomes docile and dependent. They have no incentive for scientific, economic and political development because we are tending to their wants and needs. Meanwhile, use embedded agents to identify and quietly remove and individuals or groups that might end up discovering we were the source of the plague and societal collapse. Also build up out military presence in orbit in case of a mass uprising.

Phase Five: begin "ascending" the alien population by moving them off the planet en-masse. Where they go is up to the hire-ups. Whatever the choice, we empty the planet in time for our colonists to show up.

>>31016341
this might belong on /tg/ but im still enjoying it

>tfw one of the most effective means of taking over the planet is indistinguishable from the x-files, x-com, body snatchers, etc. etc. stories of aliens subverting governments from within and doing all the "tinfoil" genocide and control stuff.
It's almost like an alien species is trying to do this to earth, man
WAKE UP SHEEPLE

thanks op really made me think gonna go have nightmares now

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Considering that we would most likely be super advanced before sending out the ship, I would start with the ship. Resource gathering, Construction Equipment, Completely kitted out to be self sufficient when It gets to the alien homeworld. Once there, build infastructure to secure the system itself and support any action on the planet. Launch an asteroid or ice comet towards their world (small enough not to affect long term habitation, but big enough to disrupt global trade) to shake them up for a bit, setting them back a few decades while they clean up. While they sweep up the ash and shit, I begin two front plan including but not limited to mass production of battle droids (built relatively tough, armed with contemporary weapons, and powered by D batteries) to overwhelm enemy armed forces and false flag operating to build mistrust between the local powers (evertually leading to war with one another for the sake of depleting their own rescources)

Only when they have beaten one aonther senseless, do we strike.
> 10,000 personell (1/2 and 1/2 male/female) fug (or use artifical wombs in the case of Lezzies/ Traps) to expand the population, mostly living among stations further out in the system. By this point, entire armadas of fighting ships would have been built using local rescources, with millions of combat droids ready to drop. Aerospace supremacy is ripped away from the locals due to the sheer amount of drones filling the sky, WMD bases and facilities are struck from orbit. Everything is built for mass production, A droid may not pose much of a threat individually, but they are never in groups of less than 20 or so. Introduce their bolt action using armies to 7.62 real fuckin NATO via FAL (Both droid and rifle in Rhodie green, Short shorts optional). We burn their amber waves of grain, demolish their purple mountains majesty, and shatter their will with a blitzkreig campaign lasting no longer than 24 hours.

1/2

>>31015370
My kind of guy, wanna go for a beer?

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I can't believe no one's posted this yet. First and easiest answer; introduce feminism.
>pic related is my strategy

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>>31017897
2/2

Now, with all of this being said, where is the initial probe in all of this? Most individuals would take it to build AIDS or some shit to use against the population, But I would put it to use, slowly rewriting their genome to be as close to human as possible. Catgirls and Catboys (non furry) become their norm. I would make them physically weaker than true humans, but prettier in a sense. Men get trappish bodies, and women get curves for days.

>This is where my inner /d/eviant comes into play.
Psychological warfare is a hell of a thing. We wouldnt have to land humans on the planet, but there will be nothing stopping us from abducting them and taking them to holding areas. Men and women get seperated. Males get worked to death doing menial (and redundant) labor while they watch through a transparent but incredibally tough panel at their women getting fugged by superior humans (who last longer, are harder, and bigger) in every concievable way. Beginning such factory farms to out breed the locals, instilling human values over the "barbaric" culture of the locals, and turning the planet from war hungry lagomorphic furries into a catgirl utopia.

Now if you would excuse me, I need to jerk it badly after writing this post.

>>31016083
Interesting ...

>>31015370
The only thing of any value on the planet is the biosphere

You can strip innumerable other planets of all the natural resources

But a biosphere is rare as fuck and legitimately worth fighting over. Control of an advanced biosphere gives you billions of years of evolutionary design to learn from in future genetic modification.

Who says we can't hit up any other planets on the way there to harvest minerals?
People fuck, build more ships, SURPRISE! We show up with a fleet of assfuck.
Blot out their skies.
But, as we make our way, propheticize (or whatever the right word is) our coming.
Spread it. Memetics. They serve us as their gods. If they rebel, we silently quash resistance.
Also fuck with their genetics so they are strong, weak-minded, and non impulsive.

>>31018377
The right word is still prophecy I believe. At least that's what Jesus told me in the book

>>31015303
There we go. One of my favorite things about stellaris was being the alien bodysnatchers to primitive planets.

Transhumanist against ww1 level tech? Numbers are not even a factor here, its going to be a fucking walkover.

Also, we cant glass every population centre, but what about using creating "natural disasters"? With such advanced technology we could do a lot to fuck around with their weather and geological conditions.

>>31017897
It said they have early 1900's level tech when we arrive, we don't even need to worry about air supremacy (other than some string bag, prop driven pieces of shit) and WMD bases, even if we hung around for 20 years before striking.

Fuck.

There's a name for the situation in which Von Neumann probes kill everything.

I forget the name.

But yeah, just send some self replicating probes and let them deal with the whole people thing.

Use the space probe to introduce feminism to the alien world. Arrive to said cucked plannet and enslave nu males, wipe out females and children.

If they reproduce asexually, use probe to send subversive religious messages. Create a mythology based upon the coming of the fleet, and use it to our advantage.

Basically shape their culture to make them passive, and then eliminate them upon arrival.

>>31021138
Bezerkers.
Von Neumann probe that is the opposite of a Seed.

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>>31014833
WW1 means no rockets/none that can reach our ships

>Grab some small to mid sized local asteroids, drop them on military/large populated sectors. Don't care how far you dig it won't save you
>Smash anything that even looks like a rocket till it is dust and they can't touch us as we rain death from high orbit

>Advanced robotics and AI
>Self replicating nanobots that grey goo only the race in question before self destructing on command, if dropped on major population centers simultaneously can reach too big to stop before they have time to react. Best of all WW1 tech can't do anything to resist it

>Biosphere intact
>Planet habitable by humans
Pick one, anything there isn't going to play nice with earth flora or fauna

>Park ship so blocks all/most sunlight to planet
>Watch them starve, will only take a few years for billions to starve into tens of thousands and society to collapse into food wars

>Using gravity tethering (Parking big shit next to planet) drag them too close/too far from their orbit and watch them cook/freeze to death and put it back when you're done

Will cause decent extinction event but earth biodiversity has survived worse

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>>31014833
Introduce the ayyliums to the Religion of Peace.

Build a carbon copy of Mecca for them and use memetics to turn half of them into kebabs. Instigate a jihad, ayylium goatfuckers proceed to blow up themselves and all the infidel ayyliums in the name of Space Allah.

When humans arrive, all that we'll need to do is mop up, and remove space kebab.

Do it mongolian style. Threathen to flatten their cities unless they capitulate, if they don't, annihilate the city. Have land battles where there are no ayylien survivors. Eventually ayylien states will start to surrender on their own.

You then pull an ayylien Final Solution and voila; a clean planet.

>>31015505
Idk this hasnt killed us yet

>>31014833
What about throwing rocks from the space?

>>31014833
mass invasion, poison gases, and let God sort them out later.

I have two options

(1) We should have nano machines so use them to kill their host and reproduce autonomosly which will effect all the aliens and kill off the population.

Opition 2

Go to planet and use the probe to make the aliens more human like and memetics and propaganda to make them belive you are their god. When you reach their planet you will report to hq that you are dead and then spend the rest of your life as an alien god.

SEND IN THE ULTRAMARINES

>>31014833
Just use genetic modification to make them all weaker and more docile, maybe create a few plagues which are easy to spreae during the phases they'll go through.
Maybe alter their crops to be less nutritious and alter some animals to be less docile or even outright hostile.

When we get there use chemical warfare, strategic terror attacks (including the destruction of important infrastructure and supply lines) and bombing to destroy the major population centers with mininal damage. Use conventional forces to mop up stragglers, I don't expect a lot of resistence because even the thoughest enemy breaks when they have no food, water, are sick, have no weapons, ammo, their family is dead and the enemy hasn't even landed their entire army yet.

Maybe slave collars to turn a part of their population into cannon fodder, but the idea is that we won't engage with any actual armies.

>>31014833
I still believe that a targeted bioweapon is the weapon of choice here. We basically have 1400 years to learn about the alien ecosystem and to devise the perfect biological weapon. I'm thinking about something like air-transmittable HIV, something sneaky that only manifests itself after a few years. Then we wait until the ayy lmaos have built a global civilisation (something equal to 1980ies earth) and unleash the bioweapon upon them.

Since the symptoms of the disease only manifest themselves after a few months to years, we can basically infect the entire population without them noticing it. Then they get killed off before even knowing what it is that kills them.

>>31014833
>a warlike rice numbering in the billions

We go all Sun Tzu on their asses if they're technologically advanced. If they arent, well, we fortify an isolated hill with a ton of heavy weapons and let them come.

>memetic warfare

Praise kek enought to make the ayys fall
Or make them fight themselves for rare pepes

>>31025821
hello Monsanto

Well, it's been proven to work already

ITT:space jews

Wouldn't our armor be impervious to WWI era weapons by the 7th millennium? Just send in the invincible space marines.

>>31026108
40k is just space magic and fantasy

it's not applicable to real life or even science fiction, let alone hard science fiction

>>31026156
I didn't mean literally Space Marines dumbass. I meant marines that are in space.

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>>31014833
>We want the biosphere intact and the planet left habitable, mass destruction is VERBOTEN
Not even one nuke?

>>31026220
one nuke is fine

We already detonated like 500 of them and everything on earth is still okay

>>31015227
1% survival rate is achievable with multiple diseases. We even have an example in our own history. North America had a bigger population than all of Europe before contact, but a combination of smallpox, measels, the cold, and who knows what else killed off more than 90% of them. Of course our records aren't very good because the disease spread out in a wave ahead of the European settlers and the savages never bothered to invent writing. But with engineered diseases it should be totally doable to wipe out a planet of ayyys.

Bring a few bioweapons guys and the rest of your 10,000 man force should be a civilian colony. Release the germs, land and start making babies. Use a few orbital weapons to monitor the planet and destroy any centers of industry or civilization as they appear. Grow your population and settler colony for a few hundred years until we have the numbers and infrastructure for mop up operations. Keep a few aliens in zoos, maybe.

>>31015329
Yeah that worked real well with the blacks. No problems or downsides from blacks, diversity is our strength.

Seriously though, if we can even integrate different ethnic groups, how could we integrate people who don't even share our amino acids? Conflict is inevitable

>>31015505
>Refrain from elevating self sacrifce, compassion, integration, peace and understanding as virtues, because that's when you have religious leaders calling for peace.

Implying any of that hippie bullshit is what makes civilizations successful.

>engineer virus that gives the aliens a peanut allergy
>virus spreads through their entire population
>no peanuts on planet for them to be allergic to
>show up and gas the planet with the sweet, delicious smell of peanut butter
>drone the fuck out of and/or give the survivors aids

>>31018296
Yup. There is no element or resource on a planet that isn't available more cheaply in asteroids. Life produces unique and valuable materials. Not just scientific info or food, but pharmaceuticals and medicines, stuff like latex from rubber trees, bat guano, spider silk is one of the strongest materials, ambergris from whales etc etc. An alien biosphere would be a treasure

>>31021138
Hedgmonizing swarm? That's a galaxy extinction event

How would /k/ defend themselves if humans were actually the aliens?

>They'll infiltrate us
>use bioweapons
>we've only got WWI levels of tech, it'll take us a hundred years of development just to get nukes