New U.S. Service Rifle

>>31004395
M4A1

Pink glow in the dark see-through dragondildos, 3 1/2 foot long. With tacticools to the max railed on them.

Bamm, there you go.

Sks in 5.45

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F A L
A
L

Rifle is fine. Use allocated funds to standard issue monolithic rails, free float barrels and polymer mags. Maybe QD suppressors if budget allows it. Any unspent cash gets funneled into shell companies owned by me.

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Matchlocks

akm with NO RAILS

>>31004395
M4A1, literally nothing else offers anything substantial over the M4 that would justify the cost of replacing it or retraining.

>>31004406

They actually do have M4A1's floating around in armories in some units. Hell, one had a god damned EOTech attached to it.

>>31004483
/thread

HK 417

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Honestly? I'd vote for any modern piston operated rifle. Like I think the LR 300 would be a great choice, considering its so close to the AR platform we've been using since Vietnam. Why a piston system? Because they work better, have less failure, and operate much cleaner.

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An AR variant designed specifically for .50 Beowulf.

>>31004524
>Because they work better
no
>have less failure
no
>and operate much cleaner.
no

>>31004395
M4's chambered for .300 blackout

>>31004406
>>31004496
See >>31004481 >>31004499

If saving money, conserving weapons familiarity and sticking with 5.56x45 was a priority then we make the M4A2.

Basically the same as the A1s, but with a four position selector for Safe-Semi-Burst-FA, flat burnt bronze cerakote receiver and FDE furniture. Free floating barrel and quick detach suppressors.

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>>31004541
Yes yes and yes. I've been in Nat Guard for 2 years and I can't stand direct impingement. My AK runs much better, and cleaner. If you disagree, you haven't used one.

>>31004395
No AR15?

Fine, have an AR18 then.

>Why a piston system? Because they work better, have less failure, and operate much cleaner.

Take your fuddmemes back to 2006.

>>31004524
LR 300 is DI you twat

>>31004499
At Fort Benning we got issued M4's that had been converted into M4A1's

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>>31004567
>My AK runs much better, and cleaner.
>If you disagree, you haven't used one.
pic related

>>31004564
They already held trials for the M4A1+ and nixed it. Also, there's no need to equip every damn troop with a Block II.

Rifle is fine.

Upgrade rifle.

Give Gucci accessories.

Hk g11

>>31004395
SCAL-L with better barrel and no reciprocating charging handle.

>>31004564

The military at large is actually cycling out M16A4's now in favor of the M4. I think the best they're going to do in the near future is just give M4's out and make the M4A1 the gun that SNCO's and officers are issued because reasons.

Nonetheless, I doubt the military will switch to a free floating barrel because of the budget but maybe they will give the option of angled fore grips and the broomstick.

>>31004593

It's actually a pretty easy thing to do since it's just a minor trigger job with the sear and the disconnecter.

>>31004585
>Pistons are a meme
>Let's get the AR18

>>31004612
Vacuum your fucking carpet

>>31004658
>Nonetheless, I doubt the military will switch to a free floating barrel
If you're special enough you'll get a Block II.

>>31004676
Okay

>>31004481
Silly anon, at least half the initial budget goes into the shell companies owned by you and your buddies, the rest is spent mostly on getting a budget extension approved and some cheap crap to pretend you half started to fulfill the contract. You'll never make it as a contractor at this rate.

>>31004483
>not wheelocks

>>31004714
>wheelocks
>Wanting your rifle to roll away when the lock breaks

>>31004658

Fort Carson is retrofitting all M4s to be A1s.

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>>31004416
Now this, this I can stand behind.

Ruger 10/22

Hi point carbines, so when the military gives them to ISIS they will fall apart

>>31004668
>a piston AR is the same as a system built from the ground up as a piston gun

Just bring back the internals of the XM8 and modify it into a less horrible fishgun looking abomination.

The only problem I see currently with US rifle procurement is the jam rate compared to other rifles in infantry competitions.

Quite a bit of that can probably be blamed on magazines, too, they're frequently beat to shit and barely able to feed at this point.
I purchased all of my own Magpulls for useage in the field.


Perhaps we should adopt a carbine firing .44 magnum.

>>31004467
>not G3
FAL doesn't like sand, nigger.

Glock 18 with extended mag and 20" barrel

a knife

>>31004917
G3 doesn't like ergonomic controls

>>31004934
FUCK ALL LEFTIES

FNC gen 2.

>>31004395
Something in a 6.5 mm round

>>31004395
Call FN and have them develop a bullpup SCAR and borrow ideas from the desert tech MDR, since those fuckers aren't even going to release it.

SCAR is the most reliable platform but it's too bulky and the stock would make us the laughing stock of the world. The platform needs to be slimlined.

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>the second amendment only applies if you're in the military!
>the second amendment only protects muskets!

We have to abide by the Constitution guys. I can't believe these violations have been going on so long. Thank you liberals for pointing out the error of our ways.

>>31004808
Except they dont break, and if mahmoud did break his they would mail it to hipoint, get it fixed for free, and hipoint would send him a free mag for delaying jihad

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>>31004395
HK416

>>31004395
XM8

>>31005246
Laughed so fucking hard at that. Thank you.

>>31004395
M16/M4 in 6.5mm

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>>31005246
Fucking golden

SCAR-17

If we're can't afford $2,000 rifles we sure as fuck should be spending $1.5 trillion on developing a fighter.

I think we should stick with the M16-M4 platform, but update it.
>piston driven
>complete ambi controls
>shoot it up with some growacet and put a bigger bullet in it
I kinda like the idea of an AR in .243 or .270. Dunno how it would work since .270 is long action though.

>>31005493

Going to a battle-rifle loading is not an update.

Mosin. Ura!

>>31004553
>"Alright gentlemen here's the situation."
>"Our rifles have shit killing potential at range because we're so bone headed as to develop a <16in barrel .223"
>"What do we do?"
>large tard rases his hand at the back of the room
>"I HaVE An IDeA!!?"

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>>31004395
C7A2

>>31004395
Rifle is fine. Just pimp it up with accessories. Free float M-lok handguards, new barrel profile with more meat near chamber instead of lel government, regulated by tool gas block which can be sealed from changing, muzzle brakes with quick detach mounts for suppressors, gas buster handles, suppressors, SSF triggers, several types of magnified optics for everyone. Triple supply of spare parts for armories. Issue MK 262 for DMs.

If unlimited funds then develop new 5.56 round with long bullet akin to 5.45 and grows path to aluminum case (slightly larger case diameter and volume).

>>31004395
>/k/ has been asked to replace the M4/M16 from service
>what would you pick for adoption?
Something so prohibitively expensive or trash as to be immediately(ish) rejected, but still easily and obviously salvageable.


.50 beowulf m4/m16

>>31005630
>2016
>permanent iron sight post

>>31004395
Model 70 winchester short action in 243 with a peep sight.

We don't need automatics since we just bomb everyone anyways.

>>31004917
>Implying
IDF did the same shit our GIs in Nam were doing. They weren't cleaning them properly

>>31005630
Fuck yo Leaf and dutch shit nigga, All about an M16A2E3 with the ease of optics and mounting of an M16A4

Phase out the assault rifle altogether, give everyone an XM-25/GM6 combination so every infantryman can fire armor piercing and programable airburst ammo with smart targeting, and give them exoskeletons to bear the weight.

>>31004395
Ruger 10/22. Like I'm gonna cite Bill Burr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7leSF_FE658

>>31004395
Galil ACE. HOWEVER! However, it must contain the same sealed system and steel infused polymer reciever but with the traditional handguards and ease of attachment. Followed by a non reciporcating charging handle, and the "ambidextrous" charging handle design

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>>31005981
>rimfire

>>31005996
Forgot to mention, Model ACE 23N, with the foldable skeleton stock that was in the original Galil

>>31005630
Where do I get that front post rail mount?

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.44 mag leverguns. Give sharpshooters .45-70's. To fight an enemy who lives like it's the 1800's, you must have a rifle from the 1800's.

>>31004892
Would that make it a submachune gun then?

>>31004499
my whole company has converted m4a1's

>>31004567
>Been in the NG for 2 years
>basically has the same amount of knowledge as a private straight out of basic
>knowing anything about anything
Shut the fuck up Nasty Girl weekend warrior ass boot. You probably only shoot that rifle once a year and dump CLP all over it like a retard.

>>31004780
More like stand in front of.

Gettit?

>>31004395
Tell the soldiers to grab an sms and go inda woods

>>31004658
My whole brigade has m4a1s...

>>31004395
SCAR
C
A
R

>>31004395

Russian AK-12 chambered in either:

6.5mm Grendel

or

5.45x39 manufactured with M855A1 .223 projectiles (since they went to the trouble already of designing the EPR projectile)

They can name it something different than the AK-12 if they want. The thing doesn't have many pieces so training soldiers to maintenance it wouldn't be an issue.

F2000, obviously.

>>31005630

Holy shit that Dutch C7 is pure sex

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>>31006308
>5.45x39 manufactured with M855A1 .223 projectiles

>>31004395
RK-95 chambered in 5.56mm

>tough as a motherfucker
>built for everything
>No need to change caliber
>add a better stock

C8

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>>31004395

Replace the M4 carbine with the C8 carbine.

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>>31004395
captcha:
>TITAN R8

>>31004395
Full stocked G3s for front-line service.
MP5s for everything else.

>>31004612
>>31004676
Yeah no, anon needs to shampoo that shit. Vacuuming ain't gonna save him now

>>31006308
So 5.56x39 M855A1?

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>>31004395

SCAR-L/H

>>31006512
>STAGNAG Mag Compatibility or adaptors: None
Galil for the win.

>>31006546
can you mount optics on this??

>>31006539
As a canuck I second this

>>31004541
Prove it then, prove that direct impingement is better than piston.

>>31004395
MAGPUL
A
G
P
U
L

>>31004941
this

>>31005655
what are you fucking gay?

>>31004406
fpbp

Daily reminder that we can't have higher calibers like .308 or .50 Beowulf because "muh military stronk and independent wymin"

>>31006807
le edoobs army XD

>>31006613
It's a more accurate system.
You go next.

>>31004567
lol shut the fuck up you Nasty Guard bitch. Come back when you have a deployment and CIB under your belt.

>>31005618
>implying new ammo doesn't fix this

>>31006848
?

>>31006923
.300 BLK sure as hell doesn't.

6.5 Grendel or 6.8 CM might but the US doesn't need a fucking hog round.

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>>31004395
Something like this.

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>>31004395
X95 Tavor

>>31005826
But didn't you miss the memo? If you have to clean a gun for it to continue working, it's a bad gun.

>>31007161
I was talking about M855A1

M4A2
- freefloat rail
- low profile gas block
- flip up front sights

That's it

Those new production BARs. Then I'd convince the military to switch back to 1911s so we'd be full Browning.

>>31007463
So like the M16?

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>>31007415
>Implying Tavor chan and her short sister iis an orthodox shekel grabbing Juden like IWI and not a proud Israeli
How can you say no to that rear heavy asstock?

>>31004395
Fs2000
Aug
Sar-21
Famas

You can see where I'm going here.

>>31004395
Barrett XM500

M4A1
SCAR-H
M-16A1

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CZ 806

>>31009198
>cant take the bolt apart

What kind of shit is that?

>>31009207
On the 805, the 806 you can.

>>31006613
no,
DI was original system.
modifications need to be justified as better or worse, not the original

>>31006893
hey, idiot, did that CIB make you a gunsmith? I didn't think so. Thanks for your service, but shut the hell up.

>>31009274
Once again proving that waiting is usually a good thing for new guns. Hopefully the 806 doesn't suck.

>>31006580
M E M E
E E
M M
E E

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>>31004395
>/k/ has been asked to replace the M4/M16 from service what would you pick for adoption?

A gas piston M4/M16.

Why reinvent the wheel? The only issue with the current rifles is the direct gas system, correct that and you've just saved the tax payers a bazillion dollars without fucking up the current training and logistics system.

>>31004395
mark ass 18

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>>31011029
>Why reinvent the wheel?
>proposes reinventing the wheel

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>>31004395
M4 Mark 2 (M4M2)

Design revision incorporated high quality super lightweight alloys, firing system modification (short stroke gas piston, rotating bolt) Fluted barrel, chambered in larger diameter cartridge (.300 blk)

Potentially incorporating some kind of recoil mitigation system provided said system would be easily maintained, modular, with great durability and zero failure. perhaps some kind of recoil dampening stock that would not effect cycling reliability of the weapon.

I guess the basic design would like if a SCAR and an M4 had a .300 blk baby that was made in USA.

>>31011755
meant to say .300blk or 6.8mm SPC

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>>31011081

Swapping out a new upper or spending bazillions of dollars on a completely new rifle design?

It's the same thing...

>>31011775
>6.8mm SPC
>Great durability
Now you're just meme'ing for the sake of it

>>31004395
Haven't we been over this recently?

Finish LSAT testing. Pick a cartridge type (polymer cased or caseless) and a bullet (testing is being done with 5.56, but they've said they're open to changing it before mass production begins).

Folks, the replacement for the AR is already in development, and has been for quite some time.

>>31011816
What the fuck is that tiny thing being launched into the background?

>>31005261
But that's the same as what we have already

>>31011865
A mix of her dignity and self respect.

>>31011865
Think it's her nail

>>31011755
>M4 is sufficiently different from M16 to warrant new designation
>But an HK416 with an AA12 recoil buffer, entirely revised parts and a completely new chambering is just M4M2
Hmm.

>>31006308
Why would you change the 5.45 at all?

7N6 is God tier FMJ ammunition.

>>31004395
M-16 in 300 blk with thicker barrels and gastubes with more heat resistant/tolerant parts for full auto and include a liquid cooling jacket tube heat sink and raidiator.

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You know it to be true.

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>>31004395
Unproven as shit, but whatever, if it's adopted kel tec will HAVE to get some out to gun stores, right?

>>31012273
Kel Tec can't manufacture enough - rights would be bought from Kel Tec and manufacturing orders would be from FN or Colt.

>>31012398
And also hell would have been long frozen over by then

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Akimbo .50 BMG Desert Eagles

>>31004395
Gun.
Some sort of extremely modular weapon. Like a Nerf gun. Slide off some parts, make a few adjustments, any weapon you want. Pistol, rifle, DMR, whatever.

>>31004406
Our entire armory just replaced the m4s with m4a1

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>>31006893
Shots fired

Ar-10. It's the m-4 for actual men.

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Cause black baby/fag killing machine guns are scary!

>>31004567
holy shit this guy is not serious

>>31004524
can fucking idiots get off this board

Colt C7

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>>31004395
G11
Caseless ammunition is the future.

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>>31004395
Whatever the top gun in pic related is.

>>31005557
>Mosin
Meme. Meme!

>>31011029
>direct gas
>issue

When the fuck did /k/ get so many ignorant normies?

>>31012771
Good luck with teaching the entire armed force how to field strip and maintain kraut space magic

>>31012771
You're forgetting majority of US armed forces are high school drop outs or barely made it through said school. It'd be funny to watch an 18 year old idiot to try to field strip it.

>>31004395
A modern battle rifle like the SCAR. Sure, they're a bit heavier, and muh recoil. But battle rifles have range. There's a reason we use them as DMRs.

>>31005630
>He believes C7's actually look like that.
It's just camo m8. Same fucking way you have coyote on your tacticool rifles.
http://www.coltcanada.com/c8-carbines.html

>>31004499
We just got all of ours turned into a1. Only used the full auto once at range

>>31004536
Terrifying.

>>31004467
>FAIL
FIFY

>>31004406
>>31012480
what's the difference?

when the fuck are they gonna give regular infantry free float rails

>>31004536

Have you tried extending the stock out further?

>>31012829

>majority of US armed forces are high school drop outs or barely made it through said school

>implying it's the 1990's again

Shit, they're so picky when it comes to recruiting compared to when I enlisted that you'd better come with a resume if you want something decent

>>31013949
I think M4 is burst, A1 is full auto?

Is the US ever going to give us some surplus weapons? They are replacing the M9. Can I get one of those? I mean there are probably a fuckton of them we should be able to get them for cheap right?

Nah they'll probably just refinish them and sell them for 4X the price, or just hand them to the CIA to give to "freedom fighters" who totally don't use them against us and start more useless fucking wars.

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>>31004416
>Pink glow in the dark see-through dragondildos

>>31012398
>FN manufactured RDBs
Don't get my hopes up like that

>>31006848
What the Fuck are you trying to say Nigger?

>>31012909
>Talks about c7s
>Posts c8

>>31015237
Nigger, we haven't even gotten many 1911s yet.

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>>31016009

Sig 556

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MSBS

>>31010875
>EEME
>EE
>MM
>EE
are you fucking autistic?

>>31005630
>Dat colt lmg forend and grip
The want is strong.

>>31004395
The obvious answer here in another AR-15.

Cetme c

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>>31016563