Small girl needs personal defense gun

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>>30989222
Remember, goy, a rape only lasts minutes but a murder is eternal!

>>30989222
Shield in 9x19.

Also, you sound cute. CUTE!

>>30989222
are Glock 42s legal in your area? If so, definitely check them out. Working in a gun store, they've been very popular especially recently and I personally know 10ish people with them that love them

By the time you get your licensing your lease will be up. Sucks that your state strips you of your rights like that. Wait until the lease is up and move somewhere with mostly blue dots:

http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/

To everyone who's actually going to make an effort to reply, you have to check what's on the CA approved gun roster first. Her choices are going to be very limited, I'll see what I can so in a minute.

>>30989222
Keltec P3AT using xtreme penetrator ammo. I've heard the xtreme penetrator bullet makes .380s viable for self defense.

>>30989222
a small girl such as yourself will do just fine with 5.5" of penetration.

glock 19. you'll be fine with 9mm

>>30989280
She wants protection not a hole in her leg. Plus you'd save money getting a ruger lc9 or s&w shield.

Don't listen to people who say get a glock as a first gun, there's going to be a lot of them.

>>30989252
But having been raped is forever. Checkmate, merchant-kun.

>>30989222
Just don't buy the gun in your picture. It's a piece of chromed dogshit. Believe it or not, bigger guns tend to have less recoil as long as you stick with 9mm.

>I can't leave

Yes you can. Landlords have a legal obligation to find tenants if someone breaks a lease early.

>>30989222
20 gauge shotgun. Or just go to your local gun shop and handle every hand gun they have and pick what feels best.

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>>30989222
>4'10"
I want to put you in a flektarn flak jacket and watch you disappear in it

Beretta 32acp tip-up barrel gun. 1032 or something like that.

You won't need to rack the slide to get it +1. And it's the perfect size for you.

>>30989291
Having seen the kind of people that might attack me, some of them have at least 6" of fat around their torso, so 5.5" penetration won't make it to anything important enough to stop them.

>>30989222
AR-15

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>>30989222
i-i can protect you if y-you want

>>30989339
HE WAS MAKING A SEX JOKE SILLY

good lord.

Anyways, Andy respectable carry ammo will be 12+ inches of penetration.

I still stand by this choice >>30989330

>>30989339
go to a gun store and try out a few pistols to see which one fits your hand.
i recommend a 9mm but anything you can handle would be good.
other than that a 20 gauge pump shotgun would be cheap, effective, and probably wont knock you on your ass.

>concerned with penetration
>concerned with recoil

Found i-

>California

Oh. Sorry...

>>30989385
No no no. Shotguns are a bad choice for svelte women like our OP.

You want something that has ONE operation - that being pulling the trigger

It's 2016, fucksticks. Stop recommending shotguns for HD AT ALL, let alone for svelte chicks

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>>30989393
Forgot pic.

What you need is a man around to protect you. In a traditional society you wouldn't have concern for this. Any answers we give you isn't going to be an ideal one, only another person can adequately protect you and that's the way things are supposed to be.

prett much anything in 9mm or more is fine for what you need.
shotgun would be a good idea as well, i dont know if private sales are still a thing in cali, but try to do that since I seem to remember your state having a 30 day wait and/or 1 gun a month law.
also you should move to a less shit state, like texas, where I live. I can give you a city and street address too, my landlords are running a deal where if you move in with me and become mai waifu i pay for your rent.

>>30989407
I'm not sure why you'd think a 20ga would have all that much recoil. He didn't recommend a 12ga.

>>30989454
shotguns are a meme

>>30989222
>I still have a few months left on my lease, so I can't move away.
Is your credit rating more important than not being raped and murdered?

>>30989407
fuck you shotguns 4 lyfe
if you aren't gonna practice enough to learn to use your weapon a pistol would be ineffective as fuck

fact: Unless you shoot the CNS, someone shot with proper defensive 380/9mm/32acp will still be able to pummel your guts out or shank your ass before they bleed out (or return fire, for that matter)

fact: defensive 5.56 ammo over penetrates less than defensive shotgun or defensive handgun rounds rounds

What you need is a semi auto 5.56 rifle of some kind. Anything else is a waste of money for your specific use case.

And no, your budget is NOT $500. Your safety is worth more than that, don't you think?

>>30989222
Some options:
Hi point 9mm carbine
Henry .22 lever action
10/22

Personally I'd take a lever gun over a semi if it's in .22 and I'm using it for defensive purposes. Not only can you more quickly and intuitively clear an ammo malfunction, but lever guns aren't subject to mag limits in (((Cali))). You'll get 15 rounds with the Henry for around 300 bucks and you'll be able to fire them off pretty damn fast with a little training.

The hi point is another good option because they come stock with 10 rounds and they have low enough recoil where you wouldn't notice it. Not really much else I could recommend you other than maybe a 357 lever action if you can find a used one under 5 bills.

If you're only 80 lbs anything else will be too much. Pistols are hard to shoot well and it's not worth it in your shitty state to get a CCW and expect it to come in a timely enough manner to make a difference.

>>30989222
Just a reminder that Newton is not one to be mocked. The smaller the firearm, the more recoil impulse is directed to your person, rather than the firearm.
If you're carrying in a purse anyway you might want a compact rather than a sub-compact.

>>30989222
Lets see some tits first, slit.

>>30989454
It's not about the recoil. It's about the absolute zero benefits they have over a rifle.

Shotguns are a pathetic choice for HD. You're a retarded Fudd if you think otherwise.

>>30989484
Lever actions are about the worse thing you could recommend. Yout want PULLING THE TRIGGER TO BE THE LNLY REQUIRED OPERATION

sometimes /k/ does seem retarded, good god
Some of you idiots are truly armchair operators

>>30989490
Purse carry is an idiotic thing to do.

Off body carry = bad

>>30989284
Good luck affording anything in a white neighborhood in cuckifornia.

You have 2 options, 9mm or .380. Since you addressed penetration, only use Underwood xtreme penetrator ammunition if you go with .380 (you can practice with cheap ammo of course). With 9mm, Hornady critical defense.

Then you have 2 more options, single stack or double. If you plan on carrying on your person, single stack. In a purse, double. Use a minimalist kydex holster since they're the thinnest.

You also may want to consider a revolver. They have heavier trigger pulls but you won't have to rack the slide. Try racking some slides next time you visit a shop to see if that's going to be an issue for you.

Make sure you understand the 6 rules of firearm safety, especially if your gun doesn't come equipped with one. Practice drawing the weapon with an empty chamber.

Understand that your selection is limited due to the handgun roster, shopping online may be a futile effort. The roster is available online if you want to see if a specific model is legal in your state.

>>30989222

Glock 19: Probably out of your budget. My store has all glocks around $520, tax is another $42, background is $30, and if you don't have a FSC card, you're looking at another $25. Total is about $617 for a new Glock 19.

$20 for 25 rounds of hollow points for home defense.
$12 for 50 rounds of range ammo
$15 for a lane to practice using your gun at a range.

you're looking at around $665 to be somewhat competent and well armed with a glock 19

pros: it will fire when you pull the trigger. no muss, no fuss. the barrel is long enough to be easy to aim. it is only a 9mm so the recoil will be manageable.
cons: polymer is very light. during a self-defense scenario, adrenaline courses through your body. blood rushes from your fingertips, robbing you of fine motor skills. light polymer + lack of control = bullets spread out more.
other notes: keep a round in the chamber. there is no safety, so when a bad guy shows up, you wont accidentally flip on the safety and wonder why your gun isn't working. instead you'll just blast the piece of shit trying to rob you.
.... just don't accidentally discharge into yourself or through your wall into the neighbors.

>>30989513
what disadvantages do they have over a rifle?
ammo capacity is the only one that comes to mind.
a Vepr-12 would shred an invader better than your AR-15

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>>30989284
Is the Beretta Cheetah on the list? I wanna throw it on the recommend pile.

>>30989284
Does it really take 3 months to get a permit?
And it sucks that the roster is so fucking small
>>30989373
If you go there, you'll lose. Trust me.
>>30989423
My boyfriend lives an hour away, so he's not gonna be there in an emergency. I need to be able to take care of myself.
>>30989439
It's 10 days, but new laws just changed one handgun per month to one gun a month, so I'll see what I can get.
>>30989490
I know that, it's just that I might have trouble gripping a full size handgun.
>>30989491
Google's right there if you want porn.

>>30989551
Why wouldn't you get the Glock 26 if more than 10 rounds is illegal, or why not jump up to .45?

Also the issue with safeties is putting it in the holster, especially if you're using an IWB holster, and picking it up from a surface, say a drawer or shelf in a safe, if it's an HD gun. Let's say you don't carry a round chambered, you know you have to chamber a round before your weapon can function. Same with a safety. Flipping one off should be second nature, just like loading it, just like chambering a round. You only forget when you spend too much time behind a revolver or a glock, then it becomes an issue.

I carry a Glock on duty and it's an alright gun, but I still draw with my thumb where the safety should be. Keeps me versatile in case I'm carrying or have to pick up something else. I would never CC one though.

>>30989222
Get a black powder revolver. It's technically not a """"firearm"""", so you don't have to worry about legislation. As far as recoil, go to a shooting range and get used to it. It won't break your wrist, but it will sneak up on you at first.

>>30989287
>Keltec P3AT
this handgun should fit someone your size, don't know about the round or recoil from a weapon that size.
otherwise a 38 special revolver, j frames are some of the smallest sized, the hand grip doesn't need to fit around a magazine so you got options for the grip to be slimmer or wider fit in your hand

>>30989222
CCW licenses take a while to arrive. Like, several months. Unless you want to illegally carry, I'd say go through procedure to get your license, and in the meantime pick up a taser, pepper spray, and knife.

>>30989580
less recoil. Faster follow up shots. Less over penetration. No risk of short stroking. Easier to manipulate and load. More precise.

>>30989601
Get a semi auto 5.56. Anything else is stupid.

And whatever you do, don't take any advice from this board.
Besides getting a semi auto 5.56 for HD

>>30989636
Suggesting a knife is the worst thing I've seen in this thread so far.

Knifes are the shittiest possible personal defense weapon

>>30989222
>>30989551

Other guns to consider:

Springfield XD Essential 9mm 3" or 4"
The 3" is going to be harder to control in a self defense scenario, but maybe you have strong hands. Whatever.
Pros: Around $440. Comes with an additional safety feature that Glock 19 doesn't have -- a backstrap safety. Mags are easy to insert, they fall freely, and there is an ambidextrous mag release. Reliable, Accurate, Well-made. (A bunch of know-it-alls will say that it should be cheaper because it used to be cheaper blah blah blah. So should literally every other gun.)
Cons: I think the control suck for lefties. It might be hard to operate with small hands.

Sig SP2022
can be had for like $500
pros: idk, I remember buying a cz75b for more than these cost, and then shooting some cholo's sp2022 at the range and it was super accurate with a great trigger and I was a little griefed because I wish I had bought one. For some reason I always forget about it -- probably because it is at such a reasonable price point, and I associate Sig with high prices.
Cons: idk dude I'm tired and its a cool gun

peace

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By nature of your gender and height, you WILL NEED one of these racking assist devices, by the way

I can guarantee it

>>30989601
>take care of myself
>whole thread is "hey guys I can't take care of myself what do"

You'll learn the error of your modern ways. Even if you get a gun you're going to fumble around for it and shoot with your eyes closed screaming and pissing yourself. Are you really mentally prepared to "take care of yourself?" Because you certainly aren't physically prepared or even capable.

You're a caretaker, not a provider and protector. I'm only saying this not out of spite but because I want to give you a true perspective.

>>30989603

Idk if she could handle a 26. Sure its smaller, but that could also be a drawback.

And I'm not going to recommend .45 ACP to a 4'10" female.

>>30989222
LCR or LCP custom

>>30989617
just disclaimer since im only recommending stuff I've handled, p3at is about the same size exactly as a p32 they don't have any manual safety but grip wise should fit someone your size. If you don't know a lot about firearms and don't have experience you should probably get something with a manual safety.

j frames, handled one with a ripper grip average sized male it fit like a glove but it'd probably be considered a little too large for you, with different grips I don't know but it's an option

>>30989662
Sharp things have been killing humans since before the beginning of time. You've seen too many youtube martial autists (c wut I did ther) saying your knife is automatically going to turn around and start molesting you.

Pepper spray actually isn't bad advice. Surprised no one has said it yet. OP get yourself some spray, and I don't mean the pink frilly keychain kind. MK-3 size minimum, sabre brand or fox labs police grade shit. Just make sure you don't shoot it when the winds blowing at you.

>>30989748

And just make sure you have 10-20 seconds for it to take any effect.

>>30989705
what the fuck are you on about?

this person wants an equalizer. if this person is actually this concerned about their safety then they will spend the time practicing every required motion with their equipment.

sorry if pointing a gun and pulling a trigger isn't an activity biologically exclusive to men, you shit-speckled virgin.

>>30989644
>>30989644
Your options for semi-auto rifles in CA are limited. Aside from a Ruger Mini 14, Kel-Tec SU-16, and some sporting Saigas, most 5.56 rifles are going to have to be equipped with a magazine lock.

Even if you do go with a magazine lock you're still going to have to register it as an Assault Weapon come 2017. That means the police will be able to search your home once a year (apparently they rarely actually do this, but it's possible).

>>30989423
Surprisingly enough the fiveseven is on the roster.

OP you must. Although it costs a grand and if you could afford it you wouldn't live in a culturally enriched neighborhood I guess...

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>>30989764
tell you what lad, i'll spray you in the face with OC and if you can look me in the eye for even 5 seconds i'll buy you a steak dinner.

but i won't have to buy shit because after 1 second you'll be coughing and staggering around nonstop for the next 10 minutes.

just theoretically though friend i would never do that

>>30989764
If you hit their eyes they close their eyes, and the first breath is like breathing in fire. It incapacitates them before they actually fall on the ground screaming, if it's strong enough and enough gets one them and they aren't on PCP. Not the best option, but it'll do fine in many situations. Cops wouldn't bother with it otherwise.

>>30989771
Do you really think the average person, let alone a girl, is going to take the time to do that? Most people that buy one gun take it to the range 1-2 times then stick it in a drawer and forget about it. They think it's the end all, be all, instant death maker They end up surprised when they realize they actually have to hit their targets, and that that's difficult to do under stress, and that even if you hit them, even in the vital areas, they don't die instantly like in video games.

>>30989830
this is true and i have breathed this shit in before by accident. was digging through a bunch of shit in a box in storage and i found this purple keychain and started fucking with it briefly thinking it was a little flashlight or something. Shot a burst right in front of me, thankfully not directly into my face. could not stop coughing for a while and all i did was breathe in the edge of the little puff.

i guess i forgot i had bought a little purple covert OC sprayer thing about 10 years ago kek

>>30989856
>let alone a girl

my wife is a better shot with a handgun than myself, and I am a good shot. having a vagina does not mean someone is going to be an idiot, like yourself.

don't take yourself so seriously kid, this is not the he man woman hater club, when someone asks a reasonable question about a gun and you fuck up the answer and ridicule them it tends to be part of the reason why people think some gun owners are fuckasses.

>>30989513
>It's about the absolute zero benefits they have over a rifle.
Stopping power.

Buckshot on the chest will knock Jamal unconscious while your AR15 will just make a small hole in front, big front in the back which he won't feel and unless you'll hit his heart - he'll get lots of nasty internal damage that will bleed him out in a minute but not enough to stop him from hacking you with a machete. You can get follow-up shots but seriously it's safer to disable the attacker with one fucking round.
>>30989748
Nigga this is <5 feet 80 pounds girl. She's not going to kill armed Tyrone with a fucking knife no matter of "training".

goto california doj web page.
copya pasta into xcell
use advance sort under data.
all 700ish firearms can be sorted.

>>30989800
It wasn't like this when I moved in.It's a long story, but some people in the area sold and the new landlords decided they didn't want to do maintenance and now the place is fucked.
>>30989862
I already have pepper spray at the legal limit for potency, and I know where I can buy stun batons with significant current (I've seen 10-12 mA, and I might modify one for higher current if I can find out what the legal limit is there)
>>30989886
I actually have a bolt action .22 rifle, and while I found that being a good shot with a rifle does not translate into being a good shot with a pistol, I do know how much practice I'll need to be a decent shot with it and what a decent target looks like.

>>30989886
>a vagina

Yes that's the only difference between men and women. There's no such thing as hormones.

Do you know how a person who's laden with estrogen is wired to react in a stress situation? She screams for help, and typically closes her eyes and pretends the situation isn't happening. Go watch a video of groups of people getting hit by cars. The women freeze up like deer in headlights while the men gtfo the way. That's a man's response, we get an adrenaline dump and our brains frantically search for similar situations in our past to try to solve the situation at hand, that's what you're seeing when your life flashes before your eyes. Women don't experience that, they can't even have complex dreams. They only see abstract shapes and shit. It's so far beyond "having a vagina" m8, not only is every chromosome in her body wired to do things other than fight, her experiences in society don't prepare her for this. What percentage of girls do you think have ever been in a fight?

>>30989987
>It's a long story

It's section 8. It ruined a lot of places in this state, mine included. In fact that sounds similar to what happened here but with half the damn city.

>>30989987
>I actually have a bolt action .22 rifle
How difficult would it be for you to get a cheap, semiauto .22 rifle? Those are honestly pretty decent for home defense if you use hollow-point ammunition. I keep a Savage 60 next to my bed.

>>30989987
live in cali glock in 9mm (19)
reolver that can do .38spl +p
1911 .45 (If you want a 9mm get glock)

nothing else left for this type of firearm I would put into my crotch holster. talking raw ccw.

>>30989830
>>30989862
so what if they accidentally hit themselves with it too, confined space or wind even out in the open. Doesn't sound like they have a very chance of getting away from an aggressor even if they both got it

>>30990100
She has to wait like 8 months before she can get a CCW, something's better than nothing

>>30990018
Not hard, though I don't think .22 will cut it given the kind of people I'm likely to be attacked by.
>>30990012
You got it. Though section 8 might be leaving because the slumlords can't keep their places up to section 8 minimums, but it's not going to fix the area.

>>30989994
So are you proposing she just doesn't try to defend herself at all? Even your initial post didn't offer advice beyond "learn the error of your modern ways." Maybe she should just go live on a religious commune where the world is artificially as backwards as you seem to prefer.

>>30990141
>I don't think .22 will cut it
Anything will cut it if you magdump fast enough. And with .22, there's virtually no recoil, so you can put as much lead as you have into your target.

>>30990169
Would 10 rounds of .22 really be enough?

Small, no recoil, good penetration, CA compliant..
Hardmode?
A .38 Special revolver, or a 9mm single stack.

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>>30989994
maybe some day you will get your ass kicked by an amazon woman for being a pretentious, misogynist asswipe, and wouldn't that be hilarious

>>30990208
It was enough to kill the burglar that broke into my uncle's place a few years back. I never got the full story, but he apparently only had a 10-22.

>>30990208
With .22 the issue again becomes penetration, since it doesn't get that high in velocity. If you must, they make copper rounds for it that will help penetration a bit (CCI copper-22)

>>30990216
>.38 spl

Good option. Dont rule out a revolver. If the ruger lcr is on the approval list you can get one in 9mm.

>>30990234
Unless she's on male hormones (or black which is basically the same thing), not gonna happen outside if your fantasy world. Those sluts you see in the gym all the time are lifting weights a teenage guy would lift on his first day.

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>>30989259
>sound
>cute
>from a post pleading for help

cringy shit, anon. you're probably the one breaking into her pad

>>30990208
10 rounds of something decent like velocitor or CCI stinger is going to be a serious deterrent, yes

the only issue with 22LR is that you need to have the very best ammo and the very cleanest pistol lubricated the very most bestest way, and try to reduce your chance of FTF or FTE because rimfire characteristics.

If my life depended on it and i could only pick one small caliber gun then a 390 or a little 9mm would obviously be the way to go because centerfire is statistically more reliable.

but i'm a lazy bastard and have not read the whole thread so idk why Op wants a 22 but i'll go read it all to be tbqh desu

>>30989601
>Does it really take 3 months to get a permit?

Depends on the county. Sounds like you're from Fresno County. I heard the area is very pro-gun, so it may not take so long.

>>30989222
I'm surprised no one said SCCY 9mm pistol. It's pretty cheap and very good for the price

>>30990264
Once again, what does that prove besides the fact that a gun would be a perfect investment in the interest of her own safety?

>>30990344
I had one and the trigger snapped off. Not worth the box it came in.

>>30990347
And a man isn't? And sons aren't? Who's going to protect you when you're as frail as she is? You guys got this nature thing all twisted.

>>30989222
Keltec PF9: subcompact 9mm. Cheap, cali legal in terms of capacity (I think)

Beretta Tomcat: smol, cheap, with a good .22 round you can do a lot of damage within price range also cali legal (I think), 32ACP version and 25 ACP versions also available

Beretta PX4 Storm: soft shooting 9mm, within your price range (for the compact, subcompact is a tad more expensive).

for future safety move out of cali femanon, there's no telling when the guns above will be illegal or if you can even get them in time.

>>30990272
For expediency, one anon suggested it and I'm still somewhat unsure as to how useful it would be. Admittedly it's probably the best thing for recoil.

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>>30989343

>>30989994
>source: muh asspipe

that's some deep research you've done there

deep

>>30989525
This.
>oh no! some scumbag snatched my purse!
>let me just take my gun out of my-
>OH WAIT, IM A FUCKIN IDIOT AND PUT MY GUN IN MY PURSE

>>30989601
In the mean time buy a can of bear spray from amazon it's twice the power of pepper spray and niggers will fear it and have ptsd flashbacks of being teargassed

>>30989222
Springfield XD 4 inch in 9mm the bigger gun will absorb recoil and be easier to cock. If your in SD i can point you to some good places for training

How bad is CA for getting a gun?

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>>30990826
And even if you have the purse in your possession there likely isn't time to get the gun out if attacked. It's generally a bad idea to carry in any way that involves more steps than simply lift shirt pull gun.

>>30989593
Its like 700

>>30989222
literally any 9mm pistol

what county in CA? takes longer than 3 months in some counties. sacramento is still backed up like 6 months
>>30989601

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>>30989222

Nobody has recommended Ruger SP101 yet.

You can load it with .38 spl for almost no recoil while still having solid penetration.

It's small, light, conceals well, simple to use, CA legal, under $500, and is even better for people with small hands than a compact auto. Pic for ants related comparison with a G26.

If you are wanting it solely for defense vs home invasion I would look into a longarm instead as they provide better capacity, energy, and less felt recoil than a handgun.

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>>30990913
what carry method do you plan to use?

i will advise against purse carry, completely retarded and useless. must be on your body. inside the waistband on your hip is ideal but i realize girls like to dress differently and hip shapes can play a role. this is a good option as well with small light 380 or 32 pistols, or even a tiny 9mm like a ruger lc9

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>>30989222
my ideas:

1. Makarov PM
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576359780
2. P64
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/577667759
3. S&W 642/442
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/577749554
4. S&W Model 49
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/577700124
5. Beretta Tomcat
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576417595

and if you want something that is only for SD, but packs a BIG punch, with OK recoil

6. Charter Arms Boomer
> http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576997826

video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjvzpDCYYFQ

perfect for one of those laser grips

just a side note
could you please post some kind of refference on how big you are?
eurofag here

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Had to check the roster since I'm eurotrash, but my suggestions (outside of what was already said above):
CZ83 in .380ACP might be a good fit. Cheap, smallish, reliable, decent. Can even be carried cocked & locked if you're afraid of the double action pull. You can swap out the grips with custom ones to make it even slimmer.
Any single stack .45ACP or 9x19. Yes, don't disregard .45ACP... Try it out.
2-3" .357Mag revolver perhaps? Load .38Spl, and the last round .357Mag. Both as a last round stopper and as a warning that you're out of rounds. Just be aware that revolvers are both harder to master and slower to reload.

>>30989688
>By nature of your gender and height, you WILL NEED one of these racking assist devices, by the way
>I can guarantee it

Nigger please. Inability to rack the slide is not due to size or strength. It's the fact that some women have convinced themselves that they can't do it.
Just get a pistol with solid serrations on the slide and even an 8 year old can do it with the right technique.

I've taught enough people to shoot to know that. The only person who legitly couldn't do it was physically handicapped for fucks sake.

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>>30991007

Note though that the grip is kinda fat on the CZ83. So try it out first.

Also, there might be some Bersa guns you might like.

4'10

you will never EVER learn

>36kg
Holy fuck ssgomad read the sticky, you weigh lower than malnourished kids from bangladesh

>>30991047
wut

>>30990935
More pic's of her please.... for uhhh Science..

>>30989222
Don't underestimate the Hi-Point carbine, it's 357 magnum muzzle velocity with almost zero recoil, and is super cheap too.
Also don't underestimate .38 special .32 acp, 380 acp or the makarov. For example Vz 61s semi clones are handgun sized .32 acps with super light triggers that allow you to fire a burst and decent penetration also with low recoil.

If I were you I'd get a hipoint carbine and a pocket pistol/revolver at a local gun shop.

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>vz61

Aw hell naw.

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>>30991058
This.
Any gun that she can hit her targets easily with is the way to go, not which one leaves the bigger hole

>>30989222
post hands

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>>30991071
They are as reliable as you get, have large magazines and light triggers. And they are small with the caliber being enough for european police and military for a hundred years.

But if they aren't california legal, just get something like a CZ 70 or walther PP, Colt Detective Special or a modern alternative.

Hipoint carbine is what I recommend though. The downside is that its difficult to conceal on the girl's somewhat small body

>>30990208
just get an extended mag nigger, like, use your head nigger

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>>30991095
>They are as reliable as you get, have large magazines and light triggers.

Disproportionately large for the caliber they shoot.
Bore axis is retarded.
Loading can be pretty stiff on some models for tiny women.
Americans can't use the stock.

>And they are small with the caliber being enough for european police and military for a hundred years.

Oh please. .25ACP and .32ACP used to be common for fucks sake. That doesn't mean they're a good idea to use shooting basketball americans.
Are you going to suggest a crossbow with broadhead bolts next?

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>>30989222

Buy a CZ 75 P-01. It is compact. It is built like a tank. It fires a wonderful round. It has a rail for a flashlight. It is very hip and fashionable with its Eastern European aesthetics.

Best gun you can get at any price range, and it just fits in yours.

>>30989513
You are retarted because you need to actually train with your gun, owning a gun doesn't make you God.
Faggots and women on my board shitting it up.

>>30991142
We're talking about someone who wants as little recoil as possible, so of course it would be large. It's still not much larger than a 9mm para handgun.
The stock is unfortunate.

Just a suggestion.

Considering we were suggesting .22 a short while ago, .32 acp is still a large step up.

I'm still standing behind a hipoint carbine, but if I had a handbag, I'd carry a vz 61 in it, despite being much heavier and taller.

>>30989222
M1 carbine.
20 gauge youth model pump shotgun.

>>30991051
Google the pic, it's easy to find more.

>>30991142
>definitely not as clever
well not with that uncocked 1911 youre not

>>30991142
>>30991163
Also, .32 acp has penetration comparable (and one of my sources even claimed superior) penetration to 9mm luger. It honestly doesn't matter how big the hole you make with a pistol caliber is, .32 or .38, meh. How many holes you make is much significant, and vz 61 is perfect for making many holes in a rapid sucession, as is the hipoint carbine, to put it simply.

>>30991169
M1 carbine is a great choice but probably out of her price range.

>>30989748
My grampa used to say.
"In a knife fight the winner died in the ambulance the loser dies on the street"
Which did you want to be faggot.

>>30991155
>They could kill charging warhorses but naw those could never kill a thug!

You better not miss & better not have multiple targets, you asshat.

>>30991178
The amberlamps

At least when i die it will be inna shiny and chrome.

OP living in CA I'd recommend a full-size .357 or .38 special revolver. Not a 2" belly gun. The roster limits your options but I believe the Armscor M200 is still on it. If not, perhaps a Ruger.

Also you can buy off roster handguns if they are being sold by a private party or on consignment. Something like a S&W model 10 or a Ruger SP101. 3-4" barrel.

Alternatively a S&W SD9 is cheap.
For dedicated CC guns there's a lot of snub .38s and compact .380 autos available, but know that they are universally unpleasant to shoot.

For HD a Mossberg 500 or Maverick 88 youth in 20ga will serve you well.

Move quickly. The 10 day wait is a bitch. Also you might be able to find a good deal on calguns.net, in general look em up, they're a good resource.

>>30990234
Go back to tumblr.
As for women get a gun and ducking train with it doesn't matter if it's an sks or a fucking bersa train faggot train.
Also do running and jogging and learn to thread a needle while fucked up on adrenalin helps

>>30990935
NIPS

>>30989222
Nice trips, please ride my dick, I have a thing for small women. But honestly, go for something in a small caliber like .22. The best gunfight is one you never get into, but the next best one is one where you never fire- just HAVING a gun can be a deterrent enough that you never really need to fight, and .22 is a small round offering virtually no recoil that fits in small, easily concealed weapons. And you don't necessarily have to kill a target to put them out or protect yourself. Being shot once or twice is a painful and frightening enough experience to chase off the average person without having to actually kill them, so it's more important to be able to consistently strike a target at HD ranges than to have a gigantic round that'll put down a bear. Remember, you're not trying to KILL anyone. Just drive them off. And getting shot usually does that. You're an easy target right up until you have a gun in hand. Also, remember to make it something reliable- you may still have to fire more than once. These things are an equalizer. I'm a 5'8" manlet and over 200lbs of fat, but even I can defend myself with a good gun. And for the love of god, if anything goes wrong and your gun won't fire or your target won't die or flee, your nice new flatscreen TV isn't worth your life, honey. Be brave, not stupid, okay?

>>30991194
Mah nigga
Requesting that pic the dude with the tattoos and the large ass gash on his back

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>>30991178
sounds like ol gramps was a soft ass bitch

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>>30991215
I'm kind of amazed that this much bad advice can be packed into one post

>>30991215
You give terrible advisement.

It is highly inappropriate for you to even attempt what you were just attempting

>>30991262
Lets take a quick look at that replay, shall we Vic?

>>30991215
>Nice trips, please ride my dick
>go for something in a small caliber like .22
>just HAVING a gun can be a deterrent enough
>you don't necessarily have to kill a target to put them out
>Being shot once or twice is a painful and frightening enough experience to chase off the average person
>you're not trying to KILL anyone
>You're an easy target right up until you have a gun in hand
>These things are an equalizer
>manlet and over 200lbs of fat
>honey. Be brave
>honey
>honey
>honey

Right you are Ken, that was one big load of shiitake she took right there!

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>>30991294
you missed that nugget combo at the end
>nice new flatscreen TV isn't worth your life, honey. Be brave, not stupid, okay?

Mugi chan is tiny and seems to like makarov and SKS and shoots it no problem. If makarov, go p83. aftermarket mags are non existent but the price is better than the mak. and it's an improvement on the mak. design beyond the P-64. 9x18 is designed for compromising recoil with penetration. Other than that PT111, I don't have hands on experience but Hickock45 has a review on it that seems positive.

>>30991170
Found it.... it was more beautiful than imagined.

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>>30989688
Story time /k/
>be me
>been seeing this girl for a little over a month
>loves law enforcement and guns
>but just the idea of them both as she has no experience in either
>tell her I want to go shoot to break in my glorious new 92fs
>I burn through a mag
>smellofcarbon.jpeg
>fuck yes
>hand piece of fine Italian machinery to new battle buddy
>I leave the slide locked so she can load it more easily
>she refuses and says she wants to do it herself
>trys her best to rack the finely crafted cutaway slide the best she can but cannot
>"look hun that spring is less then 10 pounds which you can obviously pick up, lock out your arms and rack it"
>racks it
>"told you so"
>smirk.jpeg

Racking a weapon is usually about believing you can or cannot. And also committing to it, you have to engage more than one muscle to do it and females usually put in minimal effort then give up because they don't want to look foolish or be defeated. I dealt with the same shit in the military with females not being able to rack their rifle for inspection arms, as well as 50% of the females.

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>>30991506

Also a bit of technique in the optimal push-pull motion, but yeah, you're right. It's almost always purely mental.

SCCY

>>30989513
Look at a hickcock45 video and see what happens when you shoot birdshot through drywall.
Capacity or not, I would rather be shot by a handgun than a shotgun.

>>30989748
It's like you want her to get raped anon.

>>30990935
Jesus, how big are her areolas? Dinnerplate?

>>30990935
TIDDIES :DDDDDD

>>30989222
OP, for an all around defense and ccw gun for a small framed person, a soft shooting .380 would be a good option.

I personally own a Glock 42 and it is a great shooter. Easiest .380 to handle imo, but it's a bit out of your price range and is harder to conceal than other .380s.

Ruger LCP custom is another option. Cheap, easy to conceal, but harder to handle than the Glock.

As mentioned before, the kel tec p3at is just like the Ruger LCP, but with a worse trigger than the LCP custom version.

S&W Bodyguard is in between the Ruger and Glock in terms of price, size, and usability. Trigger pull is long so it's rather annoying in that regard, but it's another solid choice.

Beretta 3032 inbox .32 acp
Tip up barrel so you don't have to rack the slide
In your budget as well

If you are able you should move up to a 9mm Glock better ballistics

What part of Cali?

Good luck

>>30989222
>4'10 grill
Goddamn how adorable, I love femlets! Post pics!

Anyway, if you have small hands, Browning makes a 1911 pistol in .380ACP which is scaled down to 80% size, it's lockes breech like a normal 1911 in .45ACP so the slide is super easy to manipulate.
Something like Lehigh Extreme Penetrators would bring the cartridge up to par in penetration.

>>30989284
Unfortunately, you're right. OP really ought to leave the state when she can.

>>30989296
Only retards get Glock leg, don't put your finger on the trigger when not shooting, this is the rule for all weapons and people who aren't mouthbreathers have no problem with this basic safety measure.

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>>30989463
>shotguns
>meme
Pick one anon

>>30991778
>Only retards get Glock leg, don't put your finger on the trigger when not shooting, this is the rule for all weapons and people who aren't mouthbreathers have no problem with this basic safety measure.

I suspect clothes getting caught in the trigger guard are the most common issue when CCing.

>>30989222
Glock 42, Glock 43, Beretta Nano, Beretta Pico, S&W M&P Shield, Sig P238 just to name a few tiny guns.

I have relatively small hands, so I know your pain. A lot of the gun world is geared towards huge guys with big meaty hands. It's pretty bad.

As far as California laws, honestly I think you should move. I know a lot of people think that's just surrendering to a state government that's set on taking away your rights, but in the here and now that fight isn't going to get you very far. If you carry illegally and have to shoot someone in self defense, that will likely mean felony charges, prison sentances, and the revocation of your constitutional rights in all 50 states. So go somewhere that has shall issue CHL's, buy a gun there, train with it often, and get a concealed handgun license there.

Does CA regard muzzleloaders as firearms or can you get those without permit? A blackpowder shotgun with two barrels isn't an awful weapon if you have nothing else.

>>30991808
>what's a holster?

>>30989688
OP isn't fucking arthtitic, it's a short recoil 9mm pistol, the slide comes back with little effort

>>30991847

Nigger please, no one is talking about mexican carry here. Clothes can still get stuck while holstering. That's why you always need to be very fucking careful when holstering.

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>>30989601
Honestly, go crash at your BF's house until the lease expires, then look for a new place.

Also, I'm going to be 100% honest, I want your tiny hands to grasp my 7" dick.
I know you're not interested, but this is 4chan, and I feel like I have to get my feelings out on the subject matter, I don't want to be dishonest.

>>30989893
>Buckshot on the chest will knock Jamal unconscious while your AR15 will just make a small hole in front, big front in the back which he won't feel and unless you'll hit his heart
Stop posting, I bet you think .223 is made to wound.

>>30990870
Typical retail price, yeah, but lots of people just don't fucking know that the Beretta 84 is worth that much, it's not that rare to find it for about 500 or even 400, it's not a super well known gun.

Still, compact size, weight keeps recoil down, .380ACP is easy to shoot and has good defensive loads now (Extreme Penetrators), DA/SA trigger means the gun can be ready with one in the chamber without having the hammer cocked, for a total of 13+1 rounds.

>>30989222
cant go wrong with a 20 gauge shotgun
easy to use not as much recoil as a 12
if i was you i would barrow a gun from your boyfriend or stay with him in till you get yours with the waiting periods and all the other bullshit in California

>>30989601
>My boyfriend
Dropped

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>>30989748
Knife fighting is like the stupidest shit you can do, especially if you're 80lbs and 4'10, and you're facing 6'+ giganiggas with guns and a serious weight advantage.

It's not even a good idea if you're on equal footing.

>>30989705
>implying it's hard to teach a girl to shoot
Fucking christ, you're just a whiny quitter or a basement beta in a fedora.

>>30989794
Mini-14 isn't bad, but the new ones are kind of expensive ($600 or $700 is about the best prices you can find), and the old ones are kind of garbage (though they'll still work for HD).

SU-16 works, but they're kind of cheap and rickety.

Ares SCR is very good, but costs more.

>>30992298
wut gun iz dat

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>>30989987
>I actually have a bolt action .22 rifle
So you would already have a firearms permit then? Then go pick up a Mini-14 rifle, old ones can be found for as little as $300, they have kind of poor accuracy, but for home defense ranges it'll be accurate enough, 10+1 rounds of .223 will fuck a guy up real bad.

If you get an old model rifle, you could later on upgrade it with an AccuStrut, which should get the gun to be able to shoot about 4 MOA or so, so it can actually be decent at longer ranges and when it warms up. But I'll honestly suggest you buy a new one if you can, it's a better investment in the long run.

10rds isn't very high capacity, but it's better than nothing, if you were so inclined, you could take two 10rd mags and tape them together at the bottom and practice tactical reloads, this could give you 10+10+1 capacity in a loaded gun, which isn't bad.

>>30990018
You won't get any worthwhile expansion out of a .22LR hollowpoint, better to focus on penetration.

.22LR isn't actually awful out of a rifle barrel, but bolt-action operation and inherently unreliable feeding and ignition hampers a lot of it's good potential.

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>>30992298
>Knife fighting is like the stupidest shit you can do, especially if you're 80lbs and 4'10, and you're facing 6'+ giganiggas with guns and a serious weight advantage.
>It's not even a good idea if you're on equal footing.

If you are in a fight for your life it is better to have a knife than not to have a knife. With some Escrima training and the will to kill, even a small woman can be deceptively fatal.

Nobody here is advocating going knife to knife. This discussion is about how to sting and escape.

>>30992423
>If you are in a fight for your life it is better to have a knife than not to have a knife.
True.

>With some Escrima training and the will to kill, even a small woman can be deceptively fatal.
Also true, but the risk here is for this to become a grappling match, and this isn't something you will win if your opponent is way bigger and heavier than you.

>Nobody here is advocating going knife to knife. This discussion is about how to sting and escape.
Yeah but that's still really dangerous, plus, now you've wounded a thug and he knows where you live, not ideal.

>>30990208
From a rifle barrel, and fast enough, it can work, but it wouldn't be my first choice.

>>30990858
Might work.

>>30991115
Verboten in CA

>>30992438
>this isn't something you will win if your opponent is way bigger and heavier than you.

There are several critical arteries that can be severed with the flick of a wrist in the blink of an eye. It's possible to conceal a blade until distance is closed. Again, this is a last option, but don't discount it.

>now you've wounded a thug and he knows where you live, not ideal.

This is not a consideration during a fight for your life.

>>30989259

what the fuck is wrong with you

>>30992422
It's not fedora, you haven't spent enough time around women. Next time you're in the car with one slam on your breaks. She's gonna blow out your ear drums. They scream for help when under stress. Do it with a guy, he calmly tenses up and might say something useful like "slow down". He's not designed to call for help, he's designed to be the help.

>>30989994
Most of this is true

>all these fucks asking for pics and shit
Theres fucking spaghetti EVERYWHERE right now.

Anyways, for carry Shields or Glocks are always good. For home, you should buck up and get a good 12g or maybe a 20g in your case. Semi automatic if you can get your hands on a reliable one, pump if you can't. I recommend Winchester PDX-1 rounds for HD if you aren't *too* worried about penetration. Fires a 1 oz Rifled Slug and 3 00 copper plated balls. I've used them a lot, and the spread on them is very consistent and the Slug portion is accurate.

Furthermore, when your lease is up you should probably evacuate that communist hellhole. You've got until November before the state loses its fucking mind. If Hillary wins you will be engulfed into a sea of triumphant smugness you could not possibly imagine. If Trump wins they will go absolutely insane. Cali is basically a no-win scenario.

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>>30992555
>you haven't spent enough time around women
>implying you have
There are women who have performed C-sections on themselves without anesthetics, what the fuck do you know about the world?
A lot of women are useless plainly because a lot of people are useless, don't think you're world weary because your used to your mom and sister cackling like hens.

The women who are interested in taking responsibility for their safety, will, those who aren't, won't, this is observable in men as well.

>>30992571
It's easy to agree with yourself.
>inb4 I'm not a samefag

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>>30991215

holyyyyyyyyyyyy fucking shit dude

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Obligatory obrez.

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>>30992555
>breaks

it's spelled BRAKES.

And you are hanging around some drama queens. Your generalizations are fucking up the thread.

You bitch about gun rights and the minute a female person comes in asking about a gun you tell them they are incapable of being a rational human being.

Great job, you are one of the primary reasons that "gun nuts" are so often labeled as bigoted ignoramuses.

Learn some humility and maybe get out more. you sound like a real ass. Maybe go enter a three gun competition and get your ass smoked by a bunch of girls because you're an armchair warrior.

People like you are SPECIFICALLY the reason that /k/ gets cancerous. You can't say anything helpful or insightful, so you criticize OP "for being a girl".

>>30992681
This is the part where anon will sweatily type something along the lines of you being a whiteknight, and then go and brag about how he "really told this guy off" to his friends he met on r/mgtow and r/theredpill

I'm wondering, why nobody just recommend a second hand revolver?

>>30992681
I'm not saying women are useless, they have a specific role that they're best at. I'm suggesting maybe killing things isn't their forte, especially when they're the size of a 10 year old.
You're reading into my posts thinking I'm hating on women, not the case, I'm stating facts and giving her the option I feel is best for her.

my wife is just like your size and she has problem even rack the slide on most pistol. But she found one easy to use which is sig p238. Go to local gun shop put your hand on those to find out what fits better

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>>30993008
>I'm suggesting maybe killing things isn't their forte, especially when they're the size of a 10 year old.
It's not hard to teach a girl how to shoot.

What's more, if she's been taught to draw and point her gun, she'll know to do it. Maybe she won't have the same confidence you do, but she can be made to do it.

>>30993040
Browning Black Label 1911 is another good one, it's small for their hands, .380ACP can be deadly, and the slide is super easy to rack, not to talk about soft recoil.

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>>30991215
This fucking dude

>>30989222
>4'10'
>80 pounds
Marry me and I'll proyect you from the bad raping fatass nignog.

>>30989601
My boyfriend.
Whore.

>>30989222
Get a makarov or a used cz83, or something of the like. They're big for a .380, but they're a pleasure to shoot and if you're firing hollowpoints you'll be fine for self defense. I actualy just went to the range with a friend who has small as fuck hands and he shot my cz83 just fine.

My gf is 5' 1'' and we went shopping for guns once because she's a delivery driver for Pizza Hut. We ended up getting a S&W air weight for her since it was compact and was easy for her to shoot.

>>30990935
Do you like big nipples /k/?

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>>30993323
Yes

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>>30993301
Inb4 people bitch about muh stoppin powah

>>30990935
Not enough ball gag

>4'10"
>80 lbs
Bull fucking shit. What are you, 12?

>>30992951
Because people are fucking stupid.

Get a small .357 and shoot .38's out of it. It's way better than some fucking automatic that you may have trouble racking the slide. Plus the smaller bullets in the .357 frame will be easier on the recoil.

>>30993370
>Never heard of a cute gorgeous petite girl.
Die Virginia.

>>30989222
I wouldnt recommend a revolver, my 5'4 gf can barely work a basic .38 special double action without turning it into a single action. The trigger pull is a bit too much and the hammer too stiff for her to work quickly.

a semi auto pistol would be your best bet. Since you get broken into, a cheap gun would be good to mitigate financial loss should you lose it.

A Shield isnt bad.

a P3AT isnt bad.

a hipoint c9 isnt bad either, and is the cheapest of the three by a wide margimw, but cant reasonably be concealed. It would also have the least recoil due to its sheer mass. Not a bad gun to toss in the nightstand.

really, it depends if you will carry it. If not, just go practice with a 9mm at your local range (if that exists) and get a feel for some.

some brands: hipoint, taurus (only the pt709 and millenium g2., the others arent good), smith and wesson shield, kel tec, and kahr are all around that price range. A police trade-in Glock would be around that price too, and are usually in good condition.

>>30989296
Lc9 is a shit gun, especially for a beginner. Shitty trigger, shitty ergonomics

>>30991994
>Stop posting, I bet you think .223 is made to wound.
.223 is made to go through some light barrier and kill person in a time up to minute(at a longer range it doesn't matter) while leaving ability for accurate follow-up shot(in case it's closer to you). Of course you can KO your target with the first round and it happens very often however all statistics you want will show you that 12ga shotguns are significantly better at doing it.

Remember you're dealing with Tyrone breaking into house, adrenaline will get him running for a while even with theoretically heavy wounds. Meanwhile the person firing at Tyrone is likely to be panicked so I wouldn't count on more than one accurate shot. If it would be possible to get full-auto .223 then sure - it will be better than shotgun - but if the choice is between semi-auto AR/Mini14 and pump-action shotgun, which makes shotgun clear winner(even if it's not optimal but I doubt you can get semi-auto shotgun at this price range).

>>30993430
It's not a blowback gun, it's a short-recoil, locked breech pistol, literally a .45ACP 1911 pistol scaled down by 20% to .380ACP, also MSRP is always about $100 than actual market price.

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>>30993370
Never seen a petite woman before?

Get a semi auto shotgun in 20 ga OP. It'll give you more power than a .22lr ever will and will solve your problem of being to big. You also wont have to get a pistl permit.

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>>30993541
>so I wouldn't count on more than one accurate shot
.223 has like no recoil at all, it's not hard to fire followup shots for a total of 3 hits, especially at HD distances.

>>30993615
>for 500 goddamned dollars
Will it fit in OP's hands? Will she be able to handle the gun? We're talking a pretty tiny person here.

>>30993594
Good Lord she is attractive

wew

>>30989222
any gun in 9x19 should do the trick.
Go to your LGS and fingerfuck a few. If it's too heavy, get a smaller one. If the recoil is too much, get a larger one.

You could alternatively get a gun in .308 for less recoil without making the gun itself heavier, but it will be less powerful.

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>>30993653
I know you meant to write .380 but I'm just getting the picture in my head of some tiny gal fighting off a home invader with an FAL or PTR91

>>30993301
>Hardest to cock due to direct blowback, triggers are heavy as fuck
>Recommends to a 5 year old girl

Something with a glade-like action or a revolver would be helpful.

>>30989339
We aren't talking about skinny ass crack heads here...

>>30989343
>>30993257
Here we see the early stage white knight, who thinks that he can simply offer protection and receive sex, not realizing that given his probable excess fat he would likely be incapable of protecting himself.
>>30992526
>>30993225
You're seeing later stage white knights, who've realized that just "I'l protect yuo!" isn't enough but haven't realized that white knighting doesn't work. I'd imagine the though process was something like "I hath rescued this fair maiden, now she shalt reward me with sexual favors"
>>30992272
>>30993282
Here we see white knights realizing they don't have a chance, and so they've lost interest. They may become normal, functional humans, or they might progress into the next stage.
>>30992681
If they don't become well-adjusted men after their white knight phase ends, they become red pill asshats.I've yet to see anyone come back from this, or if there is some further stage.
>>30992597
No kidding. The entire progression from first stage white knight to full blown MGTOW neckbeard is in this thread.

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>>30993952
>I don't actually believe that OP is a girl, but this has been a nice informative thread nonetheless.

>>30989607
>Get a BP revolver for home defense!

Jesus shitdicking christ. Just ask her to use a fog machine and firecrackers while you're at it. She won't be able to see shit after one shot.

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>>30994007

>>30994007
>idiots get called out for sweeping generalizations
>analysis: white knights

kek

>>30989222
How about a guard dog op? Get a big dog from a rescue center and give it back after your lease expires.

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>>30993861
The only time the trigger is heavy as fuck is if you fire it DA, the SA trigger is crisp and light, also if you keep it with 1 in the chamber cocked and locked, you dont have to worry about the awful DA trigger or racking the slide. And even if you want to be super safe and keep it unloaded my 9 year old brother who weighs less than that and is probably weaker can rack the slide without too much trouble. Keep in mind she wants something for home defense, not a CCW.

>>30993483
~2008
You can tell by the serial number sequence. 180-194 are old model, 580+ are new models.

>>30993653
Or I could be an idiot and CC a .454 casull revolved like I discovered someone doing today.
>>30994119
No pets allowed at my apartment. And dogs can be shot pretty easily.

>>30993538
Lc9s is a huge improvement. I don't think they make the regular lc9 anymore, but I wouldn't recommend that one. I thought the trigger was broken because it travelled so far.

Registered are awesome for something so small. It actually has form unlike the shield which feels like they just stepped on an m&p compact. It's completely flat like a pancake.

>>30991837
You can still buy BP firearms cash and carry.
If OP buys a Pietta reproduction .44 Colt 1851 from Cabela's and blows Jamal and Jose away with it I'd die laughing. But hey, just because it's old doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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hey guys imma 75 pound loli and i need a gat to shoot creepers when they stalk me at the mall. pls halp

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Hi! few things to start off with =] 1. Yes I am responding because you're a female gun enthusiast, tis and awesome thing to see! 2. I'm Brian. 3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D.

>>30994374
you butchered that copy pasta so badly

>>30994310
Hold my Glock 40 as I get my 50 Cal to protect my lady.

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>>30994310
We have come to aid in your security.

>>30993594

Wonder if she even knows he's bald.

>>30994521
Kek

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>>30989343
i kek'd

>>30990100
Then use pepper gel

OPshe, if you invited every CAfag in this thread to your house, you would literally have a personal army and your pick of the litter in terms of fuckbuddies. You could be a modern day queen. Post pics and make a gofundme and they will probably pay for a titanium-gold Beagle brand Beagle.

Source: Spoken-for PAfag.

>>30994521
lololol

>>30994605
you might be spoken for but does your man have what it takes to back up his speech. i can speak louder than him i bet. post a pic of you with a gun plz

Get a Glock 19.

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>>30994773
good enough for the Duff girl

>>30994710

I am a dude. My woMAN is typical damsel in distress and incapable of hurting a fly, so I lock and load with a Sport 2 + slidefire stock.

I consider myself an eloquent "speaker."

I do this shit for a living. Don't listen to any fucking idiot suggesting A 38SPL, 380 ACP, 32ACP, or anything smaller.

Those cute little lightweight guns are going to recoil substantially more than something bigger or heavier. I'd recommend something as big as you possibly can carry. Bigger heavier guns recoil less.

Get a 9MM and get one you feel comfortable with. Don't worry about 40 or 45. The caliber debate is dead and 9 offers more pros than either of its major competitors.

It's going to take shooting them to figure out what you like best. Take your time, have an open mind. Start off with a S&W M&P or Glock 19. Both are solid options to branch out from.

>>30989222
If youve got 500 dollarydoos to blow, get a sig. P239. Good defensive 380 ammo should be enough to fuck up someones day, and the p238 is small with virtually no recoil.

>>30994823
wish we had you at the orlando nightclub to take care of business with that fuckhead! you know about pink pistols?

>>30994823
>>30994866
set up a local chapter if you dont have one already to join. great org, i always encourage my gay friends (im straight) to check them out. especially since they come to me about questions on guns/defense...they often feel intimidated around the gun culture and some members of the conservative crowd can be dicks (usually the older generations)

http://www.pinkpistols.org/about-the-pink-pistols/

>>30989601
AB1674, which would have limited you to one gun every 30 days instead of one handgun every 30, was vetoed by governor moonbeam.

>>30989222
did youh coniduhid a FAMAS?

TITS OR GET THE FUCK OUT, BITCH

Just a reminder: you have zero value as a human beyond the holes between your legs

>>30994791
>Trigger discipline
>On the fucking case

She's got to be a avid shooter.

>>30993365
source, amigo?

>>30989259
if you stopped wearing hoodies and multicam to parties and talking about nuggets and took a shower you might even have a girl of your own one day!

Buy a fuckin Barrett. Make boom.

Glock 42 or 43 would be perfect for you.

You might try a walther ccp.

Very easy to retract the slide.

>>30994072
Modern blackpowder substitutes can be relatively easy on the smoke, also, it'll take at least an entire cylinder to make enough smoke that shit will be hard to see.

>>30994823
>slidefire stock
Please don't try to use one of those for HD, it will look SO BAD in court, and it won't be practical anyway.

>>30994850
>Those cute little lightweight guns are going to recoil substantially more than something bigger or heavier
That depends.
Beretta 84 has weight.
Browning Black Label is locked breech and short-recoil.

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>>30994885
>they often feel intimidated around the gun culture and some members of the conservative crowd can be dicks
I do what I can to remedy that.

>>30994927
>>>r/mgtow

>>30994892
Must've gotten it mixed up with another bill. There was a huge batch of gun bills that just passed, so I'll have to look back over it.

I dont know if you are a troll but I have some experience being weak and with small hands. I am a male but I have tiny hands, the smallest size in adult gloves is too big for me, I have to go to the kids section(where my size is the second biggest). Also for events I wont tell here I ended up at some point of my life with a weight of 102 pounds(Im 5'11''). I was really weak as you can imagine.

A Glock 17 was really easy to shoot even with my tiny hands, the recoil felt is very light because of the size of the gun(tiny guns in 9mm are much snappier).

If I was at the brink of death and looked like an auschwitz prisoner and shot the g17 with no problems then you shouldnt have a problem either.

>>30989222
Get some fag to let you use a 3D printer for a Gluty or Shuty, then get a Glock barrel, dipshit.

Fuck the law, burn the parts.

Also, TITS OR GTFO

>>30994927
Just because you're mad that you are out of hot pockets doesn't give the right to be mean.

>>30995398
>I do what I can to remedy that.
>West Hollywood #shootback posters
That was you? Good job man.

>>>r/mgtow
Rules are rules, you don't go announcing "tee hee I'm a girl everybody!" unless you want to be told to expose yourself or leave

>>30989222
California here.
About the laws:
To pick up your gun you will have a 10 day waiting period.
You will have to get a Firearms Safety Certificate, which can be tested for and administered at your local gun store.
Should cost $20.
It's super easy. You have to get 23 questions right out of 30. Most of the questions are about basic safety like "your finger is the primary safety" and "yes your bullets go through walls".
The rest are about California law. You must be 21 years old to get a handgun. 18 for anything else. You cannot just give your guns away to anyone but your immediate relatives--this means to your parents and children, and not your grandparents and siblings.

I'm probably missing stuff but that's easily enough to make you pass.

Pretty much all laws concerning California-legal guns are about rifles. You don't have to worry about pistols so much, especially if they're actually selling them at the store.

>>30995743
Also, to pick up a handgun, you require two forms of proof of residence.
One can be your drivers license or CA ID. The other needs to be an apartment lease or a utility bill.

>>30995761
>The other needs to be an apartment lease or a utility bill.
did they stop letting you use car registration/insurance? that shit made it so much simpler

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>>30995734
I wasn't putting up posters, I just went and gave people advice and knowledge on how to get into firearms to start protecting themselves, I think a lot of them just don't know anything about guns and feel that some of the culture can be intimidating for newbies.
Someone on /lgbt/ was very happy when I pointed out that you can get a Stevens 320 pump-action shotgun for just little over $100, and that a Hi-Point can be less than $150 used, and that he didn't have to settle for a Nagant revolver, junk auto, or singe-barrel break gun on his meager budget, a lot of them I think know that guns can be expensive, but many don't know that there are good cheap guns.

For one, it's their human right, for another, it helps bolster the cause of the 2nd Amendment.

>>30995819
Yeah you could probably use that too.
It's been a while since I checked the DOJ website

>>30989222

.410 shotgun

10-22 or similar (.22lr from a rifle is a zinger)

20 gauge

Pistol Caliber Carbine

5.56 bolt gun

Any handgun up to 9x19.

Shoot them and then shoot them some more.

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Surprised no one has posted it yet.

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>>30990870
Is that what they are for you locally? I can grab one for much less online. Does OP have a limit?

>>30989259
jesus, go buy a hooker or something

>>30989222
You don't need a gun to survive a rape you just need to sit there, let it happen and remember to swallow his cum afterwards. He'll be too tired and thankful to murder you and you'll have gotten laid. Trust me on this one I've been through a couple rapes and haven't had to kill anyone yet.

>>30996621
>the most nonchalant rape victim in the world
Is disagreeing with you your definition of rape?

>>30989222
>I'm only 80 pounds
Eat a fucking hamburger for once in your life.

>>30996719
nigga I'm 5'2" and 100 pounds
being that light at that height is just how life is

>>30996743
http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm

"Just how life is", my ass. You're underwieght, and she's underweight, and both for the same reason. Because you care more about looking good than you do about eating healthy and exercising.

>4' 10"
>80 pounds
I beg someone could kidnap you and chain you to a radiator next to a dirty mattress in their basement pretty easily.

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>>30991242

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>>30996184
Thing with the Beretta 84 is that it's not as well known in general to people (it's not even imported anymore), it's a very fine gun, and Beretta retails it for relatively high, but the old ones go around and switch hands a lot, I think most people just don't know the gun that well and think little of it, they don't know what it's actually worth, and people just don't pay much mind to the Cheetah line at all (a lot of people just think .32ACP and .380ACP is a thing of the past), I see it listed for $500 or much less rather often, and so do others.

The only thing I would change on the thing is to make it locked breech so that the slide is much easier for old people and lil ladies like OP to operate, having to work against less spring pressure, then the pistol would be pretty much the best small caliber handgun (anything weaker than 9mm Luger), on the market, with nothing else to beat it, the high capacity (for it's caliber), high quality build, the solid construction and high weight (which keeps recoil down).

>>30996775
The goal of this thread is kind of to prevent things like that from happening.

(that's kinda hot though)

>>30995086
What's wrong with hoodies and mulitcam???

>>30996771
For me it's more of a "shit I can't get anything to eat but rice and chicken"

>>30995619
Did you have the AIDS?

>>30996074
It's all newfags here. Most of them don't get it. The joke isn't funny anymore, for those of us who do get it.

If this is for home defense, and you're already comfortable with 22 rifles, get a Marlin 60. About $200 brand new. Buy some high velocity ammo. 16-18 rounds at your disposal semiauto. Penetration will be just fine. I don't care what anyone says, one or two body shots and the bad guy isn't interested in anything but getting away. If he's got buddies, they'll ditch him in a heartbeat when they hear the bang. For all they know you've got a 12 gauge with buckshot. Let the cops follow the blood trail if any of them manage to make it out the door.
Good idea to aim two shots center mass and one at the nose for each bad guy...and with a rifle you're a lot more likely to hit than with a handgun when you're shaking and nervous.

>>30996690
That anon is the rapist, dumbass.

best solution is to just have a beartrap surgically installed in your vagina.

get a .45 3" 1911

>>30992484
Nothing personal kid

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>>30997183
>3" 1911
>on a budget of $500
>he thinks this will be good
Commander sized 1911s are historically known for running like dogshit, only really becoming reliable in recent decades, coming from custom shops and high end makers.

As much as I admire Rock Island Armory for putting out a decent product at very competetive prices, I don't trust their shop to turn out a Commander 1911 that doesn't shit the bed, it's not a cheap affair.

>>30989222
Get a GP100 or a full sized 1911
Maybe even a SERBU SHORTY

Glock 19 or any one of the compact 9mm handguns.

I don't recommend subcompacts because the recoil is higher when the gun weighs less. But it's also not that big of a gun to be overwhelming to a small person.

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>>30997465
>DE1911U
>$500
Thank you based law enforcement discount.

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>>30989222

Get a blade. Nothing scarier than an angry woman running at you with a sticker.

>>30997102
>The joke isn't funny anymore
Sez you, Debbie Downer.

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>>30997493
>tiny shotgun
>for HD
>NFA item
>in California

>all these newfaggots

I wish reddit would leave.

Tits or gtfo whore

>>30997586
Try this. But with a wedding ring. Works just as well

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>>30989222
Come let me in. My 6.5 will save your life. Also tits or gfto

>don't have a gun
>don't know a thing about guns
entertaining read. i love going to interest boards and watching people argue about things i don't understand

>>30989994
>>30989994
>>30989994
>They only see abstract shapes and shit
Hahaha, the fuck are you on you delusional little faggot? I want some of that.

My gf has the craziest most hilarious scary dream shit, she woke up the other night in a tizz because she found herself in fucking daenarys' throneroom with all the creepy masked dudes merking everyone. Tyrion getting stabbed in the face right in front of her a whole bunch and all. The best part is that she incoherently half said that she wasn't scared of any of that shit, she was scared because 'the dragons were there but they couldn't breathe fire and save everyone because they were horses. But then their disguises fell off and they changed to dragons and everything was fine'

But yeah, abstract shapes mate. I'm sure. I'm glad I've not appeared in any of her dreams yet because I'd get do-deca-fucking-murdered by the sounds of it

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>>30997619
>Tits or gtfo whore
Fresh off the boat from /b/ I see.

>>30997804
Stick around, maybe you'll get a new hobby.
Plinking at old tin cans and soda cans can be very relaxing.

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>>30996074
>>30989222
This is much more applicable, I've been waiting years to post this

>>30998432
Way too much spaghetti in here for that to be relevant

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>>30998468

>implying we aren't just pretending to spaghett

>>30998483
Spagetti?

>>30989222
Buy an hipoinit

>>30989222
Maybe you should try Renting a Luger Buckmark and practice with that. Then go to your locale gunstor and buy a Remington P226

>>30998664
>Luger Buckmark

>>30991398
>>30991170
can't find it on google, any help ples

>>30989513
>lever actions are about the worst thing you could recommend

.22 ammo is notorious for being unreliable and jamming. That's the nature of the rimfire beast. The process for clearing a jam in a 10/22 requires you to remove your shooting hand from the controls and fumble around with the action and get back on. Imagine how fucked she'll be doing that under stress.

With a lever gun it's the exact same process she'd be using to cycle the action anyways.

So yes, a .22 lever gat would be better, especially in (((cali))), where it's not subject to mag capacity limitations like a 10/22 would be.

We're talking about an 80lb dwarf here in the least gun-friendly state in America here, not a fucking tacticool operator with 100 more pounds to throw around and good enough gun laws where they can get whatever they want in a timely manner.

>>30999302
A .357 levergun loaded with .38 specials would be much superior.

>>30990266
>>30992526
>>30995086
>>30996568
these are all extremely negative responses

i thought >>30989259 's post was well meaning

i don't know why that kind of response was necessary, i've never seen anything like this before

>>30990985
good job anon, one of the few non-autistic posts and you actually linked the guns on 'broker

>>30989407
quit being an asshat and practice with a pump, maybe if you do that and stop using sandpaper toiletries you will be less anally irritated about it all

>>30990985
For reference of size, anon, 4'11" is about a meter and a half.

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>>30999225
I know NSFW, but gotta help a /kommando out.

there's 8 pics total. I saved them all. For uhhh Science....

>>31001754
So I totally was just gonna go to sleep and not fap again, but now....

>>30994823
God bless u my son

>>30998432
This isn't a bad idea.

A nice little Mak will do good for self defense, especially at home.

Get the biggest, heaviest handgun chambered in 9mm that also fits into your hands. Do not worry about concealment. Do not worry about weight.

I've trained many women to use handguns defensively, and giving them the heaviest gun I can find works extremely well.

9mm doesn't kick that much to begin with (for us), and having a heavy gun helps with recoil tremendously, reducing the chance it will flop out of your hands.

Go try a Browning Hi-Power, All metal frame, holds lots of rounds, and is relatively cheap.

If you weren't in California I would say try armslist.com but I am not sure what the laws are about private sales there.

If you can't get one easily, just do what others have said and either get bear spray, pepper spray, or stay at your boyfriends place.

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>>31002500
Why do I not believe you?

>>30989317
Uh, no we fucking don't. Are you retarded? If someone leaves a lease early you are breaking a legal contract, and I will sue you.

>>30998604
>a chunky-ass blowback automatic with the ergos of a 2x4
>for a tiny lady
I suggest not.

>>30989222
Mouse Guns. Always Mouse Guns. Practice. Practice, practice, practice.