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You can change three things about your country's military

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You can change three things about your country's military right now.

What do?
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>>30981106
Get rid of the fucking air force
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>>30981113

That seems a tad extreme
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>>30981106
Less SJ and more W.
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>>30981106
>Allow servicemen to bring back captured weapons
>surplus all other captured guns through the CMP
>prevent the destruction of obsolete US guns and instead surplus them
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One female per submarine. Maybe two if it's a boomer that stays out for a while.
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Increase funding.
Build more ships.
Replace fucking ramps with catobar.
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>>30981122
Nah, their obsession with shiny fast stealth shit is a huge drain on the rest of the forces and their lack of interest in air to ground combat is completely wrong from a modern doctrine standpoint.
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more funds.
replace the shitty fucking humvees
and replace the shitty old barracks with dorms. except the airforce, theyll get the shitty olds ones.
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>women and sexual deviants can serve but only in non-combatant/reserve positions
>ditch the bullshit post-Geneva ROE
>bring back battleships with modern firepower
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>>30981129
But make them get fixed first.
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>>30981145

Fair enough. The AF has seriously taken its eye off the proverbial ball and Navy aviation kicks their ass any day. Still, it's a shame that it's come to this point.

>you will never live in the golden age of air combat
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>>30981147
Stop calling them dorms. Dorms are for experimenting with bisexuality and hallucinogens and planning safe space implementation. Barracks are where men live when they are not killing shitskins or attending to burn pits,
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>>30981155
>suggests ditching the "bullshit" ROE.
>suggests putting the "sexual deviants" in rear echleon positions only.

Nigga you dumb. The sexual deviants are the ones you want on the front line. The man who likes tying up and raping bitches NEEDS to be out there.
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>>30981235
He meant transsexuals.
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>>30981248
>wanting to put the trannies where they'll be safe from gunfire

Moron.
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>>30981106
1. Reform the entire management system m. Start it from scratch. Money getting spent left and right on irrelevant things (private maintenance companies, parties for officers&nco-s, subsidised sex change operations), no control over equipment and munitions (a tank was 'forgotten' in an open field few years ago, guns and explosives can be stolen by anyone that bothers),etc.
2. Make all instructor roles profession-based. It's a conscript army and it should stay like that, but the preservation of knowledge and experience is our Achilles ankle. Making all instructors people of profession with lots of experience to pass to the soldiers will make an excellent combo.
3. As said above me: ditch the bullshit post-Geneva ROE. Our's is even stricter than the usual ones: if an akbar throws a molotov at me, I should be allowed to answer with bullets. There should be rules and standards, even at war. That's what makes a civilized people, but thinking you can fight with gloves on to maintain the kidsgarden understandings of morality by some elitist 2to5 hippie is insane and causes more suffering than it prevents it.
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>Canada

>More boats. Lots more boats. Especially with ice-breaking capabilities
>Allergen-free food
>Nuclear armaments
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>>30981113
I'd honestly get rid of the marines first
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>having a military
>having a state
>being statist
>2016
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>>30981375
>(a tank was 'forgotten' in an open field few years ago
>no close bracket
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>30981113
>>30981145
>>30981187
>Nah, their obsession with shiny fast stealth shit is a huge drain on the rest of the forces and their lack of interest in air to ground combat is completely wrong from a modern doctrine standpoint.
Wow, talk about memeing too hard. Don't worry, you've got someone uniquely qualified to tell you all the ways you're wrong. AF targeting analyst here, been doing this 8 years now.

>obsession with shiny fast stealth shit
Let's start with this. You know why we need fast stealthy planes? Because countries like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, hell even Iraq pre-invasion, have missiles and AAA that will pop aircraft that without those features. Russia and China sell their SAM systems worldwide, and their modern models are immediate death to anything without stealth. That, not air to air combat, is the reason the AF cares so much about stealth--we can't fly into SAM rings to deliver bombs to support the ground mission if we die the moment we enter those rings.

As for fast and high-flying, yep that helps avoid SAMs and AAA too: all the tactical SAMs like MANPADS and the small vehicle sorts, and ALL of the AAA. You know, the same sort of equipment that was blowing giant holes in A-10s when they were doing strikes against the Iraqi Republican Guard? Sure, the A-10s got home safe, and then were totally unflyable past that point without months of back shop overhauls to replace engines and wings and hydraulic systems. The F-16s had to take over their vehicle hunting ops--fast, high-flying F-16s who gave no fucks about AAA or tactical SAMs.

You know the other thing fast movers do well? They get to where troops are needing CAS really quickly, instead of leaving them hanging. You know what the plane with the highest kill count in Afghanistan is? The B-1. You know what it is? Fast.

>1/2
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>>30981472
>being a faggot
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>>30981485
>2/2


>huge drain
The huge drain on money would be keeping the old shit flying. Aircraft get more expensive to fix over time, and we've been flying our shit for decades. The F-35 will make maintenance so much cheaper that trying to keep old F-16s, A-10s, and F-15s in the air, that it basically covers the cost of buying them.

>lack of interest in air to ground combat is completely wrong
Nigger, this is my ENTIRE FUCKING JOB. I am an air to mud munitions expert. I don't touch air to air, I spend literally all day every day doing planning and training for blowing up ground targets while preventing collateral damage. And you know something? My AFSC gets a lot of support and funding to do that. The amount of money spent on improving air to ground munitions and targeting devices would stagger you--billions of dollars on laser targeting pods, bomb tailkits, and bombs that can be dropped almost right on top of the guys calling in CAS without injuring them--but it's not sexy so it doesn't make the news like a shiny fighter jet does. That old motto "not a pound for air to ground" is dead. Nobody is getting air to air kills anyway in GWOT, so the pilots who are getting the glory are the ones who go pull a patrol's worth of infantry asses out of the fire with well-placed JDAMs. In the joint environment we all are in these days, we actually are friends with the Army and Marine personnel, and we do give a major fuck about not letting our buddies get shot.

The reason we in the AF are so excited about the fucking F-35 is because we can help the grunts better. We can get there fast, be on station a long time with its huge fuel reserve, assist even if there is enemy anti-air equipment nearby, have great sensors to prevent friendly fire, and great comms to talk to the ground forces needing support. Air to ground is the future, and the AF realizes that.

But go ahead and whine some more about how wanting to retire the obsolete A-10 means the AF is out of touch.
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>>30981375
>2. Make all instructor roles profession-based. It's a conscript army and it should stay like that, but the preservation of knowledge and experience is our Achilles ankle. Making all instructors people of profession with lots of experience to pass to the soldiers will make an excellent combo.
>conscript army

What country are you from bro?
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>>30981488

post more ancap memes these are gold
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>>30981113
>>30981187
>>30981145

fucking THIS.

For those who don't yet understand, you need to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
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>>30981485
Talk about fucking meme-tier
>implying everyone in the AF is a jet pilot or crewman
>implying any other mos in the AF is valuable, or not a massive drain on defense spedning
>implying the AF shouldn't go back to being a dept of the army

Every airman job (even flying) can be done by the navy or the army.
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>>30981533
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>>30981106
Bring back the greens.

Put more money into developing telescoped ammo and the LSAT program.

Fire the fuckers who developed and approved UCP and just generally reduce the amount of generals and officers in the army.
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>>30981248

No I meant all deviants
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>>30981556
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>>30981549
More like you need to read this and see how Sprey is the biggest fucking joke ever.
>Revolt of the Majors
>https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/handle/10415/595/MICHEL_III_55.pdf
Sprey is the same idiot who argued against developing/buying smart bombs and laser targeting pods--you know, the same shit that completely proved its worth in every war from Gulf War 1 onwards.

Every problem that Sprey tries to assign to the F-35 is one that he tried to assign to the F-16 decades ago. And the F-16 is considered a huge success story as far as fighter aircraft are concerned.

Honestly, if Sprey says he hates something, it is probably a great idea for the AF to buy it. We could do away with procurement personnel and just purchase whatever triggers Sprey, and we'd end up doing fantastic.
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>>30981106
1) Replace the commander-in-chief with Donald Trump
2) Change the ROE
3) Deploy it to crush IS, also nuke Mecca.
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>>30981613
Face it, Drumf is never going to be president with all of the stupid shit he's saying and backlash he's generating.

> but, but, playing 7D Yu Gi Oh! hurr durr

no, shut the fuck up. he's done.
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>>30981555
>implying everyone in the AF is a jet pilot or crewman
Uh, no, point out the spot where I implied that.
>inb4 because I described myself and others in my branch as "we"

>implying any other mos in the AF is valuable, or not a massive drain on defense spedning
Yeah because those planes sure fix themselves, fuel themselves, arm themselves, get intel on targets themselves, operate ground radars themselves, make sure their crew and pilots are fed themselves, order new supplies themselves, and guard the base themselves. They merely need people to fly them. Oh wait, what do you know, it takes dozens of people to keep a modern plane and crew flying.

>implying the AF shouldn't go back to being a dept of the army
I wouldn't be against this, now that the Army is getting rid of ACUs. Multicam is the sex.

>Every airman job (even flying) can be done by the navy or the army.
True. We could consolidate down to a single do-everything branch even. Why do we need an army and navy split up, much less air force and marines?
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Burgertown here.

>1. EW Procurement.
SEAD, EW and cyber are limited to the same procurement roadblocks as other parts of the MIC. Historically, development and enemy response cycles can be measured in weeks during open hostilities, such as in Vietnam and in the Battle of the Atlantic. The supernerds need freedom to nerd out.

>2. Army EW
We need cyber and EW at the maneuver level. We lost it in the 80s and we need to up both EW in the offensive role and to harden our formations by retuning to the basics. Dust those compasses off.

>3. APS
Just buy the Israeli Trophy one, we know it works and it works way better than what we've been able to domestically produce.

>4. Milsurp M113s and other vehicles
Britbongs get all the fun surplus vehicles, I just want a metal bawks.

>5. Warrant officers in the AF
Let pilots fly, let enlisted specialists feel with the rest.
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>>30981447
> There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
- Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army

> Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal and took Iwo Jima. Bagdad ain't shit.
- Marine Major General John F. Kelly

> The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!
- MGen. Frank E. Lowe, USA; Korea, 26 January 1952

> Why in hell can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines.
- Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, USA; 12 February 1918

> Marines know how to use their bayonets. Army bayonets may as well be paper-weights.
- Navy Times; November 1994

> I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!
- General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur; Korea, 21 September 1950

> I am convinced that there is no smarter, handier, or more adaptable body of troops in the world.
- Prime Minister of Britain, Sir Winston Churchhill

I could fucking go on, but I think the message is clear: you're a fucking POG faggot cuck moron
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>>30981408
Why do you want Canada to go nuclear? The only thing it could possibly be for is a deterrent against US annexation and that will actually never ever happen
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>>30981674

the only people he's generating "backlash" with are the current establishment and their media dogs
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>>30981674
$0.03 has been deposited in your accout

-CorrectTheRecord
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>>30981697
>- Navy Times; November 1994
Not the guy you responded to, but if you're seriously quoting the Navy times to support a position of sucking Marine dick you may have to consider that you're retarded.
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>>30981106
Spanish anon here. I will let them be in power again like based Franco did.
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>>30981705

Canada is a target for more than just the US, bro.

We're the 2nd largest landmass, brimming with natural resources, with the largest aquatic border in the world, own the Northwest Passage and a population of only ~35 million.

We're a juicy fucking target and we need to have a big red "fuck you" button just in case anyone actually tries shit.

I'm looking at you, Russia.
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>>30981123
this
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>>30981555
They can. But would you rather have a guy who can do his job great, and do someone else's well, while being valuable to the whole of the military, or someone who has little to medium training in everyone's jobs around him?

The AirForce was created to counter that retardation among Army and Navy pilots. Sure, they seem useless because the Army and Navy use to do it fine, but why not create another branch that does the dame exact thing better?

>memeing too hard
You're the meme here.
>ohhh I joined the army to prove my masculinity and not sit in a "chair" all day
>dont mind me just sitting around or cleaning water off a rainy sidewalk because now I have nothing to do.
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A small portion of the total budget is diverted into my personal bank account.
Everyone can roll up their sleeves.
Dorms renamed barracks.
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>>30981549
>Sprey
>Unironiclly posting Sprey

AF has Sprey, Army has Gavin, /k/ has gliderfag. Who does the Navy have?
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>>30981447
>Implying that's not a Corpsman
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>>30981682

Calm down there devil donut you'll get your public relations ribbon one way or another
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>>30981697

Wow a bunch of quotes from 50+ years ago saying Marines are cool

Guess what my family used to be super wealthy and owned a whaling fleet but times have changed and I'm not living in a 5k square foot mansion with a swimming pool full of bourbon
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>>30981822
>this is how we know you never took any part in a combat operation
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>>30981106
A single procurement pipeline for all branches, every branch must have a unisex uniform with a mandarin collar on the jacket, and update recruitment standards so that recruits and recruiters aren't incentivized to lie.
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>>30981898
Why do you want a Chinese collar
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>>30981106
>Address USAF manning issue
>Make Pilots fly instead of doing random BS
>Remove women from combat roles
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>>30981854

>I'll have you know I graduated top of my class and have over 400 confirmed kills
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>>30981912
That's just the name for the style of collar that the Marines have on their uniform, not a collar from China. I think it looks cooler/more military than the black tie white shirt thing the Army and Air Force have going on right now.
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>>30981930
>yfw rustling people using gorilla warfare doesn't count as kills under new DOD guidelines
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>>30981494
>Muh drones
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>>30981761
>ohhh I joined the army to prove my masculinity and not sit in a "chair" all day
>>dont mind me just sitting around or cleaning water off a rainy sidewalk because now I have nothing to do.

Yea noone said that.
Someone is projecting pretty hard.
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>>30981941
Anything looks better than the bus driver/hotel greeter dress blues that the AF makes us wear.
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>>30981922
>manning issue
Just automate their jobs
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>>30981947
>in posts only talking about manned assets
>this anon reads drones
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>>30981750
Don't forget you got alot of kebab eating mother fuckers as well
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>>30981106
>influx of comments from neck beards who have never served before
Get rid of chiefs in the navy, get rid of Chiefs again and make HYT for E-6 19.8 years
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>>30981488
ᵀʰᵉ ᵐᵃʳᵏᵉᵗ ʳᵉᵍᵘᶫᵃᵗᵉˢ
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>>30981106

>Reform the officer's corps

The old thinking of elites being better educated and thus worthy of special treatment and shit is retarded. Enlisted have more degrees than ever before. To be an officer you must first be enlisted. You must rise up to at least a sergeant and then you can go "green to gold" or what the fuck ever it is you want to do. What we are getting is officers who are just paperwork monkeys who are VASTLY more interested in the layout and look of a powerpoint slide or whatever than the actual technical information in that briefing. Officers should be enlisted first because lower enlisted are the only ones who actually do the job. Having experience doing the actual job is useful because literally every briefing we are taught to "dumb it down" "make it simple" "a full bird colonel doesn't need your nerd speak".

>Return the Specialist 5,6 etc ranks to the Army

In the modern Army if you are enlisted and don't make the step up to an NCO then at 8 years you are forcefully removed. The Army is losing ALOT of good talent. People who maybe arent Stephen Hawking or Bill Gates in their abilities or whatever, but maybe someone just wants to be a kickass cook for their career and not have to be an NCO. Boards for promotion to SPC5 would be based on job performance and knowledge of the technical fields in which the soldier operates. There would only be a limited number of billets and SPC5/6 etc. would have to undergo similar review boards to Warrant Officers.

>Produce a Civil Corps into the military

Another arm of the military. We cut back on active duty war-fighters, many of whom are just twiddling their thumbs, and replace those billets with a new Civil Corps. Same sort of shit, you go to a recruiter, you sign up, you go to Basic and a technical school and you go on your merry way as part of a larger disciplined unit. Fixing our crumbling infrastructure, fighting wildfires, helping urban communities not be flaming dumpster fires.
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>>30981106
>Get rid of marines
>Get rid of incapable women combat roles
>Remove in-equal standards
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>>30982067
>>Produce a Civil Corps into the military
>Another arm of the military. We cut back on active duty war-fighters, many of whom are just twiddling their thumbs, and replace those billets with a new Civil Corps. Same sort of shit, you go to a recruiter, you sign up, you go to Basic and a technical school and you go on your merry way as part of a larger disciplined unit. Fixing our crumbling infrastructure, fighting wildfires, helping urban communities not be flaming dumpster fires.
This already exists, and is basically a money pit for young leftists with feels.

Better to just hire contractors for that stuff.
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>>30981697
Fucking leg
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>Get rid of Marines.
>Replace them with Foreign Legion that consists of Mexicans and South Americans.
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>>30982067
>Reform the officer's corps
I completely agree. Currently one of the biggest problem with the Officer Corp right now is that almost all officers (barring Enlisted to Officer) are set on a path as soon as they actually get commissioned. This path is unmovable, cannot be changed, and requires Officers to hit the wickets at the right time or else they have no chance to advance. This takes a lot of guys away from doing a job they really enjoy or are good at if they have any hope of gaining higher rank.

>Eval Systems
Reform every branches eval systems and create one centralized system. Working with multiple joint commands and about to go into another joint tour... I hate dealing with 5 different fucking Eval reporting systems, none of the which have any likeness and all require different forms and requirements. Eval time is always a show stopper for every branch that takes time away from doing our actual damn job, streamline please. (Also for Navy... fuck PTS still fucking over the Eval system).
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>>30981697
not having the marines be an integrated part of the army. Not allowing the marines to all be considered a specialty unit. Not letting the marines be able to rub their bravado in the face of army members all day.
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Funding
Funding
Funding
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>>30981106
>>Produce a Civil Corps into the military
> sign up to do environmentalist shit in a uniform
I hope those niggas would atleast get paid

What they should do is open up a branch, where they take thirsty niggas, give them basic training and at least high school education and drop those nutters in military conflicts, after campaign they get kicked backed into normal world, returning madmen could sign up as officers second time around for the meat grinder.

This way boys could get some decent experience and it would probably be cheaper than renting contractors
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>stop letting companies charge whatever they want for fucking bullshit like $50 grade 3 bolts. By extension, stop putting up with retarded projects like the Growler
>lol 200k for a fucking dune buggy
>stop forcing good soldiers and officers to get out of the army if they don't want to advance or can't for other reasons, the whole system is retarded
>equal fitness standards for all jobs. If you want to be infantry, you better be able to do at least X, male or female. That said, also have lower requirements for shit that doesn't need you to ruck 120 pounds 20 miles. Women can and have been good mechanics, doctors, etc and there's no need for a non-combat doctor/nurse to be able to drag a 200 pound man with 100 pounds of gear 100 yards by themselves.

Basically do shit to cut the ridiculous spending, get SJWs out of MOS' they don't belong and generally make things better.
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>>30981106
Norwegian here.
>replace organization and generals with muricans or bongs. Keep funding and recruitment Norwegian.
>don't buy the F-35
>remove conscription, especially female conscription
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>>30981608
>the same shit that completely proved its worth in every war from Gulf War 1 onwards.
How the fuck did that overpriced fucking space technology help you bomb fucking illiterate sheepherders shooting at you from the mountains
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>>30982418
> leave female conscripts
> mandatory 2 year service after basic
ftfy
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>>30982422
Because 1 JDAM or LGB can do the same job as 10+ unguided bombs, on account of anywhere between 5/6 to 9/10 of those unguided bombs missing enough to not achieve the required effect.

1 JDAM = $30k
6 unguided bombs = $108k
10 unguided bombs = $180k
That's not even getting into how putting the bomb where it's supposed to go means you aren't killing friendly troops or civilians who are nearby, or other targets you don't want to hit like houses or hospitals or schools.

I mean, duh, this is the equivalent of buying a scope and an accurate rifle instead of buying 1000 spam cans and lobbing rounds in the general direction of your target all day hoping for a hit.
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>>30981106

>Standardize all branch uniforms to olive-drab fatigues while in-garrison and only issue mission-specific camo to actively deployed troops.

>Eliminate all gays/trannies/black women

>Make sodomy in a deployed environment an executable offense; dishonorable discharge while in-garrison.
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>training days every week
>command controlled PT uniform
>Male only draft
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>>30982532
>>training days every week
Finance and Personnel already get those, anon
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>>30981106
Allow people to bring back captured weapons

Allow the people who fought to buy the gun they fought with

Increase Goddamn funding.
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>>30982497
>black women
what's wrong with black women specifically? in my experience, they're the only women even close to being capable of defending themselves
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>>30981674
Yugioh is hard to fucking play regardless. It is pay to fucking play.
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>>30981953
This. I fucking hate my blues.
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>>30982572

AF fag. I'll give you a prime fucking example.

>Tech school
>Fall out for Final Formation by 0545 on Friday
>Sign-out computers in dorm shit the bed for the 5th time that week
>Line to leave the building literally winding up all 4 dorm stairwells.
>People who got up 20 minutes early now 2 minutes before 0545
>Lazy-ass niggress MTL waddles out of flight office.
>Politely waits for two other niggers to sign-out and escape the building
>Screeches for literally 100+ airmen still stuck in line to pull out 341s for being late
>Giant stack of 341s accumulates on CQ desk
>"You will all be taking Letters of Reprimand to your first bases for today's dee-sgrace Airmen!"
>Area Defense Council gets it's phone blown up
>mfw the fucking porch monkey still has a mandatory formation schedule for tomorrow at 1800 to call us all disgraces to the uniform and levy some kind of punishement
>mfw she's too fucking retarded to know she's about to get royally butt-fucked by the JAG for her stunt.
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>>30982543
I just think its bullshit that I'm a desk and every god damn week they want to test me if I still know how to landnav or dig a trench.
It might just be my command that is retarded
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Fire all Air Force personnel
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>>30982572
>what's wrong with black women specifically?
What isn't wrong with them?
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>>30981797
Battleship fag covers the navy.
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>>30981123
Underrated
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>>30981177
Why? Pregnant chicks are my fetish.
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>>30981210
So yeah, they're dorms.
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>>30981106
FUCKING JROTC SOME STRAIGHT BULLSHIT PROMOTIONING ASS FUCK SHIT
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>>30981248
Trans people aren't mentally ill and they aren't sexual deviants.

Fuck off.
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>>30981106
start new domestic tank project, bar women from combat roles, start producing more SA80s
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>>30981210
>Mfw
The military barrack(dorm) I get sent to is nicer than the dorm I had in college
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>>30981697
Do you keep this pasta to post anytime someone makes your peepee feel inadequate?
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>>30982722

Go suck start a shotgun you disgusting piece of subhuman shit.
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>>30982722
yes, they absolutely are mentally ill.
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>>30981106

1. Remove all Albanians
2. Replace the Serbian AKM clone as a service rifle with a modern 5.56 service rifle
3. Increase budget and spend on modernization
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>>30981697
I think we triggered the 0311b rifleperson
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>>30981106
>axe the USMC
>everyone held to same standards, standards increased across the board dramatically
This will dramatically shrink total force size and increase average quality significantly
>every job of every branch wears the same uniform and carries the same weapon
This will simplify logistics, put a damper on inter service rivalry, and (when coupled with the smaller force) give everybody better equipment
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>>30981674
>Face it, Drumf is never going to be president with all of the stupid shit he's saying and backlash he's generating.
>Drumf
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>>30982733
That's what happens when you go to a non-name college so you could pursue a shitty English degree.
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>>30982722

Transgenderism is caused by a mental condition called gender dysphoria.

It is literally a mental disorder.
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>>30982663
I bet those candlesticks double as buttplugs
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>>30982722
Kill yourself tranny fuck
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1. Join nato
2. No girls
3. Erase everything elizabeth rehn did
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>>30982814
>trump "says something stupid"
>therefore the crusty old criminal female candidate will win

Do people forget she's a pathological liar and a criminal?
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>>30982726
>more SA80s
Just adopt the C8 already you fucking Bong.
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>>30981485
Thanks for the well thought out response, but all of your arguments hang on the AF's modern hardware doing what it is supposed to be able to do, which is where things seem to literally fall apart.
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>>30981106
Only need to change one thing, de-fund it
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>>30982886
Trump is also a pathological liar, and probably as much of a criminal as Hillary.
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>>30982823
>Shitty English degree
>Literary Arts
How did you know?
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>>30981494
>F-35
>Save money
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>>30981106
1. reform how it's equipped by eliminating unneeded pieces of kit and replacing some of the big fancy ones with cheaper ones that are more proven and/or easier to maintain
2. normalize requirements placed on recruits
3. shift funding between branches and departments and lower overall funding somewhat in favor of other uses
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make conscription mandatory for everyone between the ages of 8 and 75.
thats it.
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>>30981113
>what is the control of nuclear missile silos
>what is the control of military satellites
>what is the entire cyber division of the armed forces
>what is drones
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>>30981854
>this is how you know you're autistic
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>>30981697
Nice wartime propaganda from a bunch of war bond shills.

The Muhreens are literally the niggers and meat shields of modern combat
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>>30983048
All super important stuff to be sure. Cyber stuff should be its own completely separate division and the nuclear and space command should be split off into its own thing too. The AF can change the oil on the drones.
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>>30981721
What bruh? He fuckin talked shit about several combat veterans and is spitting out memes like a motherfucker over the paste month or two. I'm half convinced that he's trying to throw it. "Obama is the founder of ISIS" "you mean his policies allowed them to for right" "no I mean he founded them and Hillary helped" 10/10 meme machine.
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>>30981697
My understanding of Marines is regular ass bitchy soldiers who have slightly more justification to bitch. No better at anything.
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>>30981525
Shekeltropolis.
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>>30983118
How about you just put it all under one umbrella for easy management.

Like

The Air Force?
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>>30982726
What does anyone need tanks for these days? What the fuck do the British need tanks for? or were you planning on selling them?
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>>30983203
What does anyone need mobile cover for these days? What the fuck does anyone need an armed building demolition vehicle for?
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>>30983124

The Obama administration literally sent funds and weapons to known radical Muslim groups because "ah bloohoohoo Assad is mean"

He might not have known they would morph into ISIS specifically but he knew he was throwing matches on a powder keg
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>>30982886
In the end it doesn't matter because she tries to act like a relatively nice person, while Trump is an asshole.
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>>30981106
Brazilfag here.

I strip them of their right to regulate firearms related legislation.

I perpetually ban them from using their vehicle assets to transport politicians.

I sink the Navy's aircraft carrier and explicitly prohibit them from ever operating carrier based aviation again, at least for as long as our GDP is less than 21 trillion dollars a year.
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>>30983176
>conscript army
>shekeltropolis

That could be Israel or Switzerland.
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Brit here:
1 - Produce a pair of Mistral style ships to partner up with the QE carriers to provide backup STOVL capacity in case the carrier is deck fouled (don't like a single deck task force if one is under maintenance when we need them) - Alternatively build a third carrier (and Nuclear FFS)
2 - Start work on developing 'Challenger 3' with improved active defence and (reluctantly) non rifled gun.
3 - Tear up stupid 'no sub-munition' hippy crybaby treaties and re-introduce cluster bombs and bomblet MLRS.
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>Allow soldiers to bring back souvenirs firearms, knives, etc.
>Possibly integrate Air Force back into the Army OR Navy
>Start youth pilot programs like Germany had pre-WW2
>Invest in the construction of more military affiliated schools
>ROTC for most to all state colleges
>Social media use (facebook, twitter, uploading photos, etc.) is punishable by court martial
>All ranks, enlisted or officers, are restricted to staying on base
>No drinking off base, no driving around unless to your house, etc.
>If an award/medal has been granted to someone but they claim they have PTSD, then they will no longer be eligible to receive it
>IF someone has committed a crime (drunk driving, assault, public/domestic disturbance, etc.) before claiming they have PTSD, then immediately claim it afterwards, they will still be subject to court martial/judicial process.
>IF non-active duty or active duty enlisted or officers commit crimes against and or involving a civilian (see above), they WILL be subject to being court martialed which WILL lead to being dishonorably discharged.
There are my thoughts.
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Is it true that airfags know more about holiday parties than they do their actual jobs?

If so, disband the Air Force and all other budget issues will disappear.
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>>30983025
Considering it'd cost about the same to buy brand new F-35s as it would updated versions of the older aircraft, yeah, it actually does.
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>>30983226
>What does anyone need mobile cover for these days?
physical cover? APCs
covering fire? tons of alternatives
>What the fuck does anyone need an armed building demolition vehicle for?
What do they need one for when missiles exist?
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>>30983270
Israel my friend, Israel.
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Belgian military

Since it can't be fixed

1)increase funding x4 and put almost everything in biological warfare
2) new policy: we don't attack anyone, but if you attack us to the point where we face defeat: we release those biological agents all over the world. If we die, everyone dies
3)no minorities allowed in the army
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Up funding to actually meet NATO standards.

Sure would be nice to actually arm your ships, and not having to choose between repairing crashed helicopters or maintaining self propelled 155s.
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>>30981106
>Canada

>Bring our Navy out of the 60s (we're still using Sea Kings).

>We need more icebreakers, it's a serious issue.

>Bring our Air Force out of the 80s.

I wonder if we could use drones armed with anti-ship missiles to guard our Arctic holdings at a lower cost?
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>>30981472
The sad fact is some people actually believe this.
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>>30983284
>Allow soldiers to bring back souvenirs firearms, knives, etc.
Allowed, but requires paperwork
>Possibly integrate Air Force back into the Army OR Navy
Not gonna work when you have a bigger Air Force than all of Europe or your Navy is one of the biggest Air Forces in the world
>Invest in the construction of more military affiliated schools
We have more than enough to fill our needs
>Social media use (facebook, twitter, uploading photos, etc.) is punishable by court martial
>All ranks, enlisted or officers, are restricted to staying on base
>No drinking off base, no driving around unless to your house, etc.
You went full retard, as in beyond Mom's Demand Boxwine levels of full retard
>IF someone has committed a crime (drunk driving, assault, public/domestic disturbance, etc.) before claiming they have PTSD, then immediately claim it afterwards, they will still be subject to court martial/judicial process.
>IF non-active duty or active duty enlisted or officers commit crimes against and or involving a civilian (see above), they WILL be subject to being court martialed which WILL lead to being dishonorably discharged.
Redundant and already partially the case. Dishonorable discharge is only given if the person in question has committed what amounts to a felony.
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>>30983185
Because all those things require vastly different resources and vastly different approaches to management. In one sentence we've got:

>Hackers
>Satellites
>Missiles full of nuclear weapons
>Flying killer robots

Pretending that a bunch of things that didn't exist in WWII should be managed by a WWII-era entity is ridiculous.
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>>30982663
Holy fuck, source?!
Are the twinks in the AF really this cute?
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>>30981106
President is no longer commander in chief, still has a say in the military however. Congress gets more military power.

Improve the camo.

Less SJW.
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>>30983284
You went from being /k/ to being full on Feinstein. Just leave.
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>>30981912

It would look starfleet as fuck lol
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>>30983284
100$ you are fat or autistic, or both
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>>30983403
by that logic the Army and Navy shouldn't be trusted to handle them either because they started in the 18th century
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>>30981690
This is a good post.

>EW
The Army can't do tactical EW. They are literally incapable of it, I mean below the fucking division level, right now. This is a huge hole, and something the Russians have us dead to rights on. A majority, and closer to 90% than 51%, of EW officers are guys who washed out of other branches. Practically no one who matters even knows what the Army's theoretical capabilities are or how they might be employed, much less what's actually possible right now.

>Active Protection
Something else we've been sitting on our asses about. It's great that the CIA or whoever has been keeping ATGMs out of the hands of the people we've been fighting, but it ain't gonna last forever. We know how lethal these things are. We don't even have *passive* countermeasures on *anything* right now, and there is a mountain of evidence that nontechnical means developed for countering the fucking AT-3 and other obsolete MCLOS ATGMs are no longer useful 40 years later.

>AF Warrant Pilots
Air Force pilots -- you know, the people who run the Air Force -- aren't responsible for actually planning or running anything until they're 12-15 years in. Imagine if Army captains commanded individual tanks instead of companies.

>>30982067
Most enlisted with degrees are either technical specialists or hold retarded "degrees" from quasi-diploma mills the latter being required by boneheaded credentialist promotion regulations that massively waste the time of professional enlisted for no discernible gain. The remainder are college graduates who made the terrible decision to enlist when qualified for a commission.

Officers being better educated than enlisted isn't "old thinking", it's reality. I realize that you may be in some nerd specialist field, though, so if you're assblasted about that then consider getting a commission and enjoy your meteoric rise through the ranks as you easily outperform all the paperwork monkeys.

>Spec 5+
It's called warrant officer.
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>>30981106
combine marines and army, we really dont need a marine landing force to be as big as it is.

get rid of UCP ASAP

dont fucking lower standards for minorities/ women/ whoever
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>>30983228
This. The faggot funded and armed what became ISIS. Short of going to the middle east and changing his name to Bagdadhi, he founded the fuckers.
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>>30983006
>probably
Well one has multiple federal probes into her conduct because of its illegality and the other says not nice things.
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more funds
more guns
and more bombs
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>>30983006
Prove it.
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>>30982798
The interservice rivalry is a good thing. It makes men want to work harder to be better than the other guys. Why try to remove a perfectly fine part of military culture?
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>>30982977
Nah, every modern combat aircraft has teething problems that need to get worked out when it is introduced. The F-16, the F-15, the F-18, the F-14, the F-22, and more have all had problems when first rolled out. The problems got fixed and then the planes kicked ass. Expecting otherwise of the F-35 is irrational, it would be the first major plane that didn't work like the others then.
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>>30981106
Get rid of all laws interfering with the second amendment.

Now any chance of an invading army succeeding are nil.
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>>30983403
I thought the Army Aviation and Navy Aviation corps were the ones that actually flew bombers over Europe and the Pacific?
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>>30983403
Yep, see, it was Army and Navy aviation. The USAF exists for good reason.

"United States Air Force
Armed Force
af.mil
The United States Air Force is the aerial warfare service branch of the United States Armed Forces and one of the seven American uniformed services. Wikipedia
Founder: United States Congress
Founded: September 18, 1947, United States of America"
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>>30981106
US, Army focused

>Eliminate the year group system for officers, track promotions and assignments by history only.

>Make Cyber its own branch

>Limit AR 350-1 training to 12 hours per quarter, either by eliminating requirements or allowing commanders to set priorities.
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>>30983025
If you ever own a classic car where it's super expensive to source replacement parts for it, you'll understand. Now imagine that for an entire fleet of jets that break far more often than a car.
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>>30983676
We haven't had to worry about an invading army since the 1850s. Our military is to protect our interests abroad.
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>>30983228
We fund the FSA which is a group that still exists and is currently in conflict with both ISIS and Assad. But that is still his policies allowing ISIS to form not him literally founding them which is what Trump actual said then doubled down on when a radio host gave him a chance to make it look less retarded.
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>>30983403
>3/4 things use the air and space for travel and movement
>"B-but it doesn't m-make sense to have t-his!"
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>>30983006
Trump will be opposed by everyone and do very little harm. Hillary has a huge amount of support, in comparison and with do actual harm to the country. Starting with the 2nd amendment and the supreme court. No thanks.
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No Females in Combat MOS's, More Funds for maintenance of weapons systems and vehicles, more funding in general.

More than anything, we need to be expeditionary again, there's nothing wrong with sticking our nose in other people's business, Marines need to be expeditionary and get experience or you lose all the experience that Marines that have come before them learned. Frequent conflict spurs reenlistments and more funding
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>>30983700
>we fund the FSA
We also funded Al-Nusra, which used to be AQI which became ISIS. It's been shown that FSA has sold or given equipment to any of the other groups in exchange for helping them fight Assad, this includes ISIS. The CIA also ran (or is running) training camps for "vetted" rebels that then switch sides and join ISIS.

The other anon is correct. This administration has flooded Syria with money and heavy weapons because Obama wanted a successful Arab Spring to be part of his legacy and is too retarded to not know when to stop and doubled down instead.
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>>30983440

Every time I think I understand gays I stumble upon something like this

I thought twinks were supposed to be cute? That's just.. a dude. A gross dude with his ass on the sink and a stupid look on his face like a single mother selling herself on facebook

As for the military, I think somebody's already said this, but I'd change the requirements to better reflect the necessities of the job, and make them equal for men and women. If they can make it, great, and if not, too fucking bad. But I don't see the need for having the same physical or intellectual standards for the wildly different jobs in the military
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>>30983704

Trump is here so that Shillary gets in withoit serious opposition. /pol/ and the alt-right ruins /k/, they ruined the GOP and Conservatism, and they will ruin the election. Kiss your Bill of Rights goodbye, especially 2A. Thanks a lot, /pol/fags. I hope the memes were worth it.

>but we gonna rise up against da gubment

Millions are going to marching in the street DEMANDING these rights are taken away (to promote a more equitable society or something). You try anything and Facebook newsfeeds will be full of people literally calling for your murder.

But don't listen to the filthy Muslim, go back to your Build the Wall memes and fantasizing about a race war.
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>>30983660
Because it hurts his fee-fees.
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>>30983797
>You try anything and Facebook newsfeeds will be full of people literally calling for your murder.
Yeah, and when people start getting dragged out of their homes by lynch-mobs and murdered in the street, that will make all the other gun-owners scared enough to surrender peaceably. There's no way that people who want to keep their guns to defend themselves will possibly fight back.

Fuck it. "Blood of patriots and tyrants", all that jazz. We've been overdue for it for a century.
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>>30982722
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>>30983677
No, just the Air Force. Navy doesn't have anything that can stay up long enough.
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>Reduce spending by 50%, redirect into infrastructure and scientific expenditures

>Standardize requirements for entry. If you want to be a ranger, i don't give a damn if you're a girl. You're doing the same as everyone else.

>simplify ROE to "if a terrorist guy is holding a gun, shoot his ass"
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>>30981549
>posting "Kooky" Sprey to support your fudd desires
hahaha
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>>30983747
But you see that this is his policies being retarded and creating a enviroment in which ISIS could form not him literally founding ISIS which is what Trump said. He was even given a chance on radio to say he that he ment Obama's policies contributed their formation but instead clearified that he actually ment that Obama literally founded ISIS.
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Remove from foreign countries.
Relocate to the borders.
Pay increase.
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>>30983910
>US Air Force
>Founded 1947
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>>30983953
What if he's right?
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>>30983975
If he's right then maybe he should provide some sort of proof instead of just spouting thing on tv without backing them up.
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>>30981106
Poland
>1. More tanks; buy 700+ plus Leo 2s, having 50% of the Leo 2s in the world would be a nice defensive feat
>2. refit the airforce to get rid of aging Soviet era designs, only a select few new airframes would be left in service until replacements would be bought; Typhoon/Eurofighter/F18 Hornets would be bought and relatively new Mig-29s and SU-22s would be put to reserves/trainers with older airframes sold or scrapped, same with helos
>3. Revamp the navy, our fleet should focus on a few (3-5) nuclear armed submarines (lol) to deliver a retalition strike along with a small but capable surface fleet dedicated solely to defending the coastline

>implying we have the budget to accomplish this
yolo niggas
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>>30983965
Congratulations on posting a completely irrelevant point.
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>>30981106
Get rid of the reliance on contractors. We don't need some fat civilian resetting my account password.

Streamline everything, there's too much bureaucracy and politics in the military.

Upgrade and buy shit we need, not new shit we don't need. The money spent on the F-35 could of been spent upgrading or replacing gear that's used everyday. Shit, give soldiers nicer barracks to live in instead of wasting money on new uniforms, when everyone could just wear OEF multicams they already have.
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>abolish conscription; it's an outdated practice as well as a massive drain on resources
>throw all battle rifles in the oven and adopt a STANAG-compatible 5.56 rifle
>revamp the Soviet-derived rank structure and insignias to mirror those of the US army
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>USA

Cut Air Force budget for new plane designs since they clearly don't know what they want, leave what's left for weapons research. Fire up the F-22 factories and get that plane's manufacturing costs super cheap. Only fund upgrades and redesigns of existing planes until the chairmen can actually justify a new plane with good reasons.

Cut the Army down to a shell organization. Keep only officers needed to quickly rebuild the Army upon declaration of war. Their entire role is to make sure they can enlist and equip in a matter of weeks, accomplish objectives, and quickly dismantle on war's end.

Some leftover Army budget goes to the Marines, to equip them. They are once again a primarily shipborne force.

Give the Navy all the fucking money they want. Ships, weapons, everything.

Finally, combine all special forces into a new branch/organization. This branch will always be active and carrying out the actual valuable missions. DEVGRU, Delta, SAD, all in one gestalt organization for any small-scale high-value job at any time. Fund them as needed.
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>>30983953
>giving ISIS money, weapons, and training
>Not founding them
Sure, he didn't write their charter, but saying "it wasn't him it was his policies" is verbal judo to deflect the argument.

Obama's policies ARE his actions. Saying his policies created ISIS is saying Obama created ISIS.

I'm glad we agree.
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>>30984064
>Get rid of the reliance on contractors. We don't need some fat civilian resetting my account password.
this, imo, is really the big one. we send way too much money to these fat polo-and-khaki-wearing welfare queens
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>>30984105
>abolish conscription
You fool
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>>30984177
>Cut Air Force budget
>Cut the Army down to a shell organization
>Give the Navy all the fucking money they want

t. Petty Officer cuckenstein
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>>30984105
>throw all battle rifles in the oven
Or sell them on the surplus market to make some money back. I want an Estonian G3.
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>>30983314
missiles take forever to get to their target compared to tank rounds. What would you rather use in the direct fire role, the TOWs on the turret of a Bradley or the main gun on the Abrams?
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>>30984043
>Irrelevant
>"B-but the Air Force was in WWII!"

You stupid shithead, you deserve to kys for your inability to grasp fallacy.
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>>30982904
>C8
Fuck that, I want my own unique guns.
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make it a rule that only single men can serve. get rid of the entire dependa lifestyle
>>
> No trans fucks
> No gay fucks (be closet fag like everyone else)
> Get the fuck out of Middle East. ( let the roaches have their shit hole, I want a proper war)
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>Require officers to serve as enlisted before seeking a commission OR just get rid of college ROTC programs.

Service academies and OCS should be the only way to become a commissioned officer tbqh senpai.

t. Angry NCO with a 23 year old fuckstain platoon leader
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>Eliminate the Marines
>Eliminate corporate competition for contracts and stick to those that actually produce quality results
>Increase fuel efficiency of all vehicles

The faggots, they must do it.
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>>30984407

Less programs for married military members. That shit is a fucking drain.
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>>30983025
>Yfw they banned woobies to help fund the F-35
>>
Invest in long range troop carrying aircraft.
Invest in millions of parachutes.
Fund new " Deployable Infantry Now Defence Unit " or Dindu for short.
Use aircraft to drop dindu into enemy cities. Dindu unit will specialize in riot tactics, lazing around, and blaming everyone else for all their problems.
In future wars, this should tie up the enemy for long enough for the americans to turn up and fuck shit up.
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>>30981106
Make the army stop adapting a new uniform every six months

Move funding from the Navy to the Army and Marines

Increase physical and educational standards, relax tattoo regulations. If you have a 31 on the asvab you don't belong in the military. Brainless fucks rise to the top.
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>>30984509
once can only hope
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>>30984524
>relax tattoo regulations
Fucking degenerate. Your pointless skin tags only service to make it easier to identify you as a retard American.
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>>30984535
>If I don't like it it is degenerate

Deal with it, nerd.
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>>30984535
I don't have a tattoo but tattoos are what soldiers/sailors/Marines have been doing for generations.

I hate most tats, but tradition is tradition. Now you have faggots getting swallow tattoos and have never been on a ship
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>>30981124
/Thread
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>>30983734
Bruh. You are retarded. Dan Daly is rolling in his grave.
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>>30984586
>People with anchor tattoos who have never been on a ship
I've never been on one either but it still pisses me off. But I want to.

What state is the best to go for if you want to work on a ship that isn't navy?
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>>30981106
our minister of "defense."
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>>30984481
No it isn't.

Single military males are untrustworthy and prone to jumping ship when better opportunities arise.

Marriage means they will stay and are a more worthwhile investment. Marriage with kids means they have no options and ensures they will never move from the military, easing manning issues.
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>>30981697

Oh, man. Nobody gets butthurt like a Marine. You're like a bunch of insecure Chads.
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>>30984709
>Chad
Chad is just another term for a successful male, you numale faggot.

Posting a bunch of Chads. I'm sure you are smarter than them.
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>>30984709
>one post in the entire thread supporting marines
>upwards of ten posts crying for the abolishment of the Marine Corps
Really makes you think
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>>30984064
>Get rid of the reliance on contractors. We don't need some fat civilian resetting my account password.
>>30984257
>this, imo, is really the big one. we send way too much money to these fat polo-and-khaki-wearing welfare queens

So you'd rather have someone pulling just as much money on the enlisted side, with free healthcare, who will start collecting a pension after 20 years?

Yeah way to think that through.
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>>30984457
>Service academies and OCS should be the only way to become a commissioned officer tbqh senpai.
this
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>>30982722
How's it going Chris Chan
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>>30983611
>Mfw people thing the Army still uses UCP

Fucking read the news people
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>>30982749
>>30982754
>>30982834
>>30982858
>>30983899
>not realizing that a trap gf is better than a normal gf
you fools
you pathetic fools

[spoiler]also holy fuck dont cut yourself on those edges, children[/spoiler]
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>>30984457
>angry NCO
Sounds like you fucked your own life up, and want everyone else to eat the same shit you did.
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>>30981124
>>surplus all other captured guns through the CMP
CMP sponsored 100mm DT10 marksmanship competition when?
>>
>>30984817
naw, he's just an air force member
>>
Reassign all the women in the military to strictly "Stress relief" department

Because Soldiers get sexually frustrated, and spend lots of time from home

This and maybe logistics is the only real way to make women slightly less useless
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>>30982733
>mfw
>no reaction image
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>>30984800
>pulling just as much money on the enlisted side
Bruh contractors easily make a six figure salary and they have very little accountability and don't have to answer to military personnel. I've dealt with the laziest civilian contractors imaginable when an E-3 could just do their job.

Most military members wont do 20 years or have any healthcare needs other than flu shots.
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Get the queers out. Seriously I have nothing against whatever you choose to do with your dick. Gays are inherently self centered. Flaming or closeted they are all about them selves and their sexual identity. I am convinced that that alone disqualifies them. There is no way they can 100% be part of a larger unit. For them it's all about them and their sexual identity.
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>>30981485
>someone uniquely qualified
f a g g o t
>>
Purge the entire NCO and officer corps, institute force wide uniform change from what is current to grey trenchcoats, jackboots and steel helmets for parade/C-caps for garrison, completely deflag and disband the 82nd Airborne division as well as 25th ID's airborne brigade.
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>>30984724

I am smarter than them, I joined the right branch.
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>>30981256
trannies - storm troopers, sent to the hottest places when
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>>30985005
I agree with this.

I also would advocate for expelling women, blacks, and transsexuals from military service across all the branches.
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>>30984407
>guy looks like he's easily in his 40s
>specialist E-4
>married to this troll

Why are enlisted families so fucking trashy? asking as a former E-5.
>>
>>30981494
>GWOT
what a buzzword
>>
>>30984457
Honestly, getting rid of ROTC and pushing forward a stronger OCS would be a good way of executing a reduction-in-force when the right time comes.
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>>30985236
speaking of, anyone else have the GWOT plate? I got one the second my DD-214 was given to me. Proud to be a part of history.
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>>30983482
>Congress has more power

>Longer deliberation time if something goes wrong, nobody agrees on anything, America is destroyed because Libtard feels bad for the people attacking us
>>
>>30985022
Different intel puke here, tbf there's only like 700-1000 targets guys in the AF so he might well be the only one of them posting on /k/.

>sigint 4 life
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>>30981113
>terminate DoD satellite network
>terminate 2/3 of nuclear program
>terminate world's best ISR capabilities
>terminate neato TS Space program
El-oh-el friend
>>
>>30981106
>ROE can only be decided by military commanders, politicians can only delcare war and sign treaties
>No more women, fags, or muslims
>must carry some form of firearm at all times during active duty
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>>30985563
>just as much hate on the AF in this thread
>aka the actual first in, last out
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>>30982700
Pregnant chicks will drive you to suicide faster than no women at all
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>>30985621
No one cares aircuck. Go talk about how triggered you are and your diabetes medication.
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>>30985621

Flying into enemy CTA for 20 seconds to release a payload doesnt count >>30985633
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>>30983025
>I-If we just keep flying the same old shit that keeps breaking down it'll- it'll be cheaper guys!
>W-What do you mean it's outdated?
>Ww-hat? F-15s and F-16s are tearing themselves apart mid-flight???
>>
>>30985652
You better get back to repainting those rocks before your sergeant finds out you're shitposting on /k/, boot.
>>
Eliminate military all together and use nukes anytime there is a threat.
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>>30985586

Any other branch could pick that shit up and do it ten times more efficiently, and the Navy already handles a lot of it anyway.
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>>30985664
Neither does sitting at a FOB all day but to hear the Army and Marines tell it that's where the American infantryman becomes a hero.

Thank you for sacrificing your Doritos, grunts.
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>>30985664
>IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE GROUND TAKING BULLETS AND WATCHING YOUR FRIENDS DIE, YOU'RE NOT A REAL MAN
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>>30985685

>be American year 2100
>turn on news
>"the American nuclear arsenal has been deployed against another bunch of communist assholes causing trouble halfway around the world oorah medals for everyone"
>start to cheer but choke on the 6 tumors clogging my esophagus
>clutch my neck helplessly with my fourth and fifth arms as I slide to the floor
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>>30985723
>>30985710

Shitpost all you like, doesn't change the fact that flying four hundred gazillion feet above some Wahhabi asshole's house isn't quite the same as being "first in"
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>>30985755
>Shitpost all you like, doesn't change the fact that flying four hundred gazillion feet above some Wahhabi asshole's house isn't quite the same as being "first in"

Yeah, it's way more legit to walk in and poke the charred corpses and rubble that the air force has left behind, now that's work for a real man. Tell us again how it was the army and marines who beat the Iraqi army, so that we can laugh at you for mopping up ragheads who were already running after they were blown to bits by air force bombs.
>>
>>30985688
>navy controls trident class subs, annon thinks they'll go to ND/WY/MT to pick up the rest
>thinks that muhreens and bottom of the barrel army specialists are qualified to work on nuclear war reserve material, instead of branch specialized in air and space operations
>annon thinks navy have capabilities to manage ground stations inland
> thinks an entire reorganization of the would be "efficient"

Annon you slay me
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1. Wastly increase our budget and forces
-more tanks
-more planes
-more ships (perhaps a carrier or two)
-increase number of troops to least 250.000 active+150.000 reserve
-more everything, especially maintenance
2. Realize what Putin is up to in eastern europe and accept
him as our new main enemy and readjust our military to counter him.
According to the blog of some former german intelligence folk i read, Putin needs just another 5 years of preparation andhe can steamroll eastern and central europe.
And currently our only worthy defence in the east is fucking Poland!

3.Increase Intelligence spending!
We currently spend about 808mil US$ or 9,87$ per capita per year for our foreign intelligence service,
the US spend about 14,8bil $ or 45,93$ per capita for the CIA.

If we increase our spending to similiar levels and become more active in the dirty stuff, Putin and his regime will be dead in five years!
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>>30985688
>Any other branch with no experience with these systems at all could shift personnel over and do the same exact job but more efficiently.
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1: Increase funding to 2.5% of our GDP. 5 to 6% for the first 10 years to (financialy) repair our badly decayed and weakened armed forces.

2: Massive R&D to restart the industrial momentum. Think new ships, submarines, vehicles or even new small arms and necessary accessories that come with it.

3: Create a national guard and reinstitue the draft to fill up the NG. This has the following benefits:

A: Large pool of manpower for war, disaster relief, supporting anti-terror operations and assisting with large scale police/firefighting/medical operations.

B: Introduces the population to guns and (partialy) eliminating the fear/anxiety and myths/legends/tall tales surrounding them.

C: Introduces discipline into the population and toughens it up a little, making them more resilient in general if faced by setbacks.
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>>30981106
Polack here:
1. Get some nukes.
2. Get some more nukes.
3. Get even more nukes.
>>
>>30984660
>G36s and EOTech
Is the theory that the EOTech with shift zero with the rifle as they heat up?
>>
>>30985937
What country?
>>
>>30986048

The Netherlands. We currently spend around 1.2% of our GDP on defense and this low spending is continuing to damage our military and if drastic measures arent taken soon, that damage might become irreperable.
>>
>>30981106
1. buy just a few F-35As
2. develope our own nukes
3. put tactical warheads on cruise missiles carried by F-35s

hello mr. Putler, your lackeys were complaining how we were a threat, how do you like it now?
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>>30981106
First and foremost I'd allow commands to get their yearly budget regardless of how much they have left from previous year allowing them to save money.
Get rid of the culture where one guy ruins it for everyone. Make very clear you and you alone will get the hammer if you fuck up.
Finally greatly increase training. Infantry and combat roles get increased live fire training and learn how fight wars. Read echelon jobs get whatever necessary training to get better and maintain skill in their field. No more pointless briefs on dumb shit.
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>>30986179

>Get rid of the culture where one guy ruins it for everyone. Make very clear you and you alone will get the hammer if you fuck up.

That actually takes away accountability tho
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>>30983284
Most of your thoughts are shit.
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>>30982418
>don't buy F-35
You do know that Sprey isn't a credible source for JSF information, right?
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>>30986395
X-32 best JSF
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>>30982418
you'd choose Gripen-chan, right?
>>
>>30984867
they could combine both jobs too, like stress relief logistic operator
>>
>>30981106

make them actually protect constitutional rights and American citizens
>>
>>30985927
>accept him as our new main enemy
Poland is our main enemy since they're sitting on something that belongs to us.

>perhaps a carrier or two
What do we need carriers for right now?
>>
>>30984064
>we don't need F-35s
>several F-18s crashed last month
>F-16s and F-18s literally are falling out of the sky
>more and more expensive to maintain for little return capability wise.
>Allows our allies to actually be a formidable force against conventional enemies (China) while being inexpensive
>literally as cheap/cheaper than competing airframes.

Kys
>>
>>30986571
uh oh, I can already hear all of the Shekelbergs, Ivanovs and Polzowskis losing their shit...
>>
>>30983797
This guy gets it. Trump is the worst thing to happen to the right since Bush (either one).
>>
>>30985825
Lol. Were you even in Iraq or Afghanistan? I got more help from Army pilots in AH-64s than any Air Force A-10 unit.
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>>30986576
Or we could build new F-18s and not blow all this money on a jet that is in no way, shape, or form better save for VTOL.
>>
>>30986817
-f-35 isn't better than the f-18
Holy shit you're retarded, lying, or purposefully ignorant.
>>
>>30982411
The Growler is the only dedicated EW air platform we have that isn't a huge lumbering C-130 or something. It's also complete and currently deploying all over the world.
>>
>>30986817
>save $10-20million per aircraft for something that has 1/2 the capability
Kys
>>
>>30981106
All the faggots that complain about the military getting faggier and shit get drafted.
>>
>>30982761
The term is still rifleman, dumbshit.
>>
more budget
more budget
more budget
>>
>>30981488
Dear Santan.
>>
>>30982687
>not liking battleships
What are you gay?
>>
>>30984359
I guess you have a point, but that presumes a tank is already nearby and not occupied with something else.
>>
>>30987048
>rifleman
>he used non-gender neutral noun
*takes cover and chambers a round in his trusted PKM*
"SJWS INCOMING!"
>>
Republic of India
>Increase the defense budget to 5.8% of GDP from current 2.5%.
>Align with Israel and get more Tavors and BARAKs and a million other things all the while pissing the porkies even more.
>Unfuck R44 Vikrant and Arihant Class follow up boats(black shark torpedo are out)
>Move even faster on R55 Vishal and get that
EMALS.
>Order an additional 395 Rafale for flying sofa force.
>Upgrade to SUper SUkhoi and improve availability further.
>Pull out of SU FGFA
>Give Army more MARCOS for leading their GHATAK monkeys in both J&K and North East and raise more battalions for the fleet.
>Replace every INSAS in Service with a TAR 21.

and this is why I'll never be defense minister or even make it to a flag rank.
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>>30982722
If you want to kill yourself because you think your body is wrong somehow that means you have a mental problem. How can that be normal?
>>
Australia
>remove army
>remove navy
>remove airforce

Get invaded by literally anyone else cause it's gonna be more free then this bs nanny state
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>>30987130
Yup
>>
>>30984804
y?
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>>30987309
>and this is why I'll never be defense minister or even make it to a flag rank

No, it's because your dad wasn't rich.
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>>30986424
0>D

happiest plane in the world
>>
I know I'm asking the impossible, but here goes:
1- All officers must first serve at least one contract as an enlisted soldier, so they know what their men go through.
2- All violations of the rules will be punished, regardless of who broke them. No more buddy-buddy bullshit.
3- All gear will be properly maintained, and this will be enforced heavily. If I find blue rust in your .50 cal barrel, you're up shit creek without a paddle.
>>
>>30982497
>>>/pol/
Or
>>>/r9k/
Or
>>>/hm/

Pick one. It doesn't matter which.
>>
>overabundance of useless training like PIC RELATED.
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>>30987309
Memes aside, I seriously feel for you guys. It's like your procurement people are hellbent on supplying you guys with the worst possible equipment at the highest possible unit price.
>>
>>30986270
Not when you aren't allowed to beat your coworkers unconscious for fucking things up for your group.
>>
>>30981106

No more catering to fuckin' trannies or any of this SocJus bullshit.
>>
>>30988116
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
>>
>>30981124
I was gonna say switch handguns to Glocks but shit, that's perfect
>>
>>30988116
b-but what if really want to rape them
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>>30987312
i want to kill myself because i think that our life has no sense and nothing matters against eternity and why would some carbon mold on the earth surface be any important in the universe and that the very word "important" is a silly anthropomorphism which means nothing, so i live in a perpetual flashes of existential crisis, does it make me mentally ill
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>>30981555
>Every airman job (even flying) can be done by the navy or the army.

Untrue, my job is only done by Airmen and a handful of marines. We support the army and joint forces and literally 0 planes fly without my support
Get fucked amigo.
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>>30989931
who are you, a stress relief tranny?
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>>30981106
Tax free pay for active duty, retirees, and users of the GI Bill, allocate bullshit money to training funds. Like seriously, why does a skilcraft pen need a fucking military contract. Fuck blind people. And finally, allow voluntary separations after 90 days of initiation.
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>>30981106
>Australia

Nuke subs.
An actual SAM system and not just MANPADs.
Convert every infantry regiment to either mechanised or airborne.
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>>30984964
"any healthcare needs other than flu shots."

lol what is $182.3 billion dollars per year anyways?
>>
>>30984264
>b-but muh dear Soviet-era carryover!
You're the fool.

>>30984286
They're nothing but beat to shit ex-Swedish/Norwegian rifles.
>>
>>30989848

If is isn't Alcohol related training it is Sexual Assault this or that.

Once a month if you're lucky.
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>>30990514
and then some dumb fuck gets drunk, tries fucking a bourbon bottle, gets their dick stuck, gets arrested while walking down the street with his stuck dick hanging out & the next training is about how to not get drunk & get your dick stuck in a bourbon bottle
>>
Make me God emporor
Give my military a billion spaceships
Give my military the absolute best method to choose who to promote
>>
Get rid of everything but the marines

Buy M4 variants instead of trying and failing to design your own

Invest in tanks
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>>30990869
I mean, have you seen our attempt at designing guns???
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>>30981106
>national service for 18-22 year olds not in university
>ROE changed to "brown broke, could be armed, light him up"
>no women with 100 miles of a commit zone
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>>30991006
Within 100 miles of a combat zone*
Yeah i'll stop posting from my phone now.
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>>30989931

Security Forces isn't a real job friendo
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>>30985927
Oh bloody hell, here we fucking go again...
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>>30988116
>tip
>dont rape

well, its only a tip not a rule or anything
>>
US: ban USMC from saying they are the FEW(?) and that they are the best if the best.
Make the silver star silver, not gold...numpty fuckin dumpt.
Put more 7.62 in line units
>>
>>30987846

Found a POG.
>>
>>30982756
>. Replace the Serbian AKM clone as a service rifle with a modern 5.56 service rifle

m21 will be our downfall you pleb.
May as well send out lads inna woods with mp5s.
>>
>>30989928

Uh... yeah. Yeah, it does.
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