h&k thread

any p30 owners on here? i want to carry this gun, at least through jacket weather. is it a owb only or could do iwb? id like to iwb, but if its not feasible thats okay.

>>30974589
>is it a owb only or could do iwb? id like to iwb, but if its not feasible thats okay.
Anything is feasible in a breathable undershirt and a one size too large t-shirt.
i.e. if you wear an L wear an XL. It's not that hard, it doesn't matter if anybody notices anyways. Their right of fear doesn't trump your right to carry

>>30974453
You're either lying or a poorfag, I suspect both. The gun control act of 68 prohibits dealers from selling to anyone under 21.

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>>30974589
Ive been carrying a P30 for about a year with a Rawdog tactical IWB holster without any problems. Im fat though so I could probably carry a D-eagle without printing.

>>30975244
Apparently layaway doesn't count, because I was with him today when he did it

The camera really makes those frames look plum

>>30975244
just like a silencer, you can put money down on a firearm before youve done the paperwork for it and it remains in "jail" with the shop. i have not bought a firearm, i have left a deposit to ensure i pay that price for that particular firearm that I will pay in full inside of 60 days, unless i request more time. there is nothing illegal about that.

furthermore, by my state laws, sub 21s can apply for a restricted pistol purchase permit. directly from the sherrif's office of the most populous county in the state, that retricted permit allows vendors, both private and ffl, at their discretion, sell you a firearm.

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this thread needs saving. h&k firearms dump time

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>>30976057
I got u bb

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>>30976095
while, im posting one m8 or m13? which is better?

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>>30976102
handled one of these in a gunstore today. Holy shit. I am hating the lack of the paddle release, because the magazine is in there tight. and you really have to man handle that fucking release. But even as an overpriced, neutered mp5k, this is one sexy bitch.

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>>30976121
let's be real,
mp5n > mp5k > all other variants.

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OP here. I am not a trigger snob. but I'm not going to pretend like the p30 has a good trigger. The weight wasn't bad, but it was creppy, and the resent was not tactile. now, I was dry firing, but I would go too far out on the reset, because i would feel it, but it was so weak that it didn't register quickly and I went further than necessary. trigger time will fix that, but as someone who's replaced entire trigger groups, individual parts, and am willing to do some polishing, what could I buy or polish to improve the trigger. doesn't have to be dramatic, just sufficent for the additional money or effort. I know there's one anon who with his usp pistols polishes a specific part of the trigger bar, and he did a lovely look at all the parts of a match trigger set for the USP. but what about for the p series?

>>30976121
I would rather buy a custom made mp5 clone from a us maker than that

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These are my two

P2000 v3 9mm
USP .45 v1

Next to buy is another usp in .40 then that's it for my HK pistols.

>>30976302
well right now your best produced one is turkish. that fucking sucks, but no american manufactures make an mp5 clone, certainly not custom and less than $2400, which is current street price from an h&k dealer

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>>30974453
No matter what anyone tells you, it's a great gun, trigger can be learned with training. It's a "combat" trigger. Get used to it. If I can do this with 5 rounds at 15 yards you should have no problem.

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>>30976341
>who is Parabellum Combat Systems

>>30976338
I handled a p2000 today, and that was originally the one I wanted. smaller and $300 cheaper. but it just fit worse in my hand. maybe it just had too small of a backstrap on there, but it was not ergonomic.

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>>30976357
Pic is mine.

>>30976357
Forgot name on first post. Been drinking.

>>30976365
>Parabellum Combat Systems
>less than 5 years old
>big selling point is a sbr .308
>thinking you can buy a custom built mp5 for less than $3000

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>>30976366
Weird I absolutely love the way the p200 fits in my hand with the medium back strap,so much so that I haven't bothered trying on the other two options.w hat font you like specifically?

>>30976357
>>30976379
nice. I'm 50/50 on color filling. /k/ hates it, I kinda like it. but I've shot it live before, it's certainly a combat trigger. And ive spent the majority of my shooting on a factory 10/22 trigger and a milspec ar15 trigger, so I'm used to gritty triggers. but if I could clean the trigger up a bit, even if it's a little extra money or effort, I'd do it.

>>30976366
continuing on this, I like the paddlemag on the p30, but it was really small the p2000. I know I could buy a hk45c release, AND I know I with training i could hit that p2000 release, but that giant release on the p30 is nice.

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>>30976417
that is how long he has had the store, he was known as Ghilliebear/jeff before and has been making them on hkpro forever.

>mine was $2900 with 3 mags from him :^)

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>>30976448

>>30976448
Im assuming you meant what not did I like.
the grip didn't agree with me it had the same problems of the glock 19 grip. my palm meat hangs off the bottom a little and it bothers me. the sides are flat and pretty smooth. the sights aren't bad, but I really like the photolumiecents (fuck spelling). I've only shot the p30 at in indoor range but in indoor light those sights kick ass and really agree with my eyes. I know at night they wont work as well as tritium, but I still like them. It's really small knocks, but for me, it was enough to pay a little more for the p30

>>30976490
you got me. but is this the reverse stretch mp5? very pretty.

>>30976617
def go with the p30 then i really just prefer the looks of the p2000 over the p30 cannot stand polymer pic rails on any gun

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>>30976632
yeah it is technically a reverse stretch PCS 9

>>30976644
for a long time i thought the p30 was ugly. the slide is beautiful, but the frame is weird and the hammer just looks wrong. I dont know why but it looks better in person. maybe the asethtics are very 3-d and dont convey to a photo? thats a shit excuse, oh well. i think picatany looks like shit on every pistol, metal or polymer
lh9 > lh9mk2
m9 > m9a1
1 slot rails make sense to me. they look good, and theres only one good accessory to put there, a light. and those are basically standardized in dimesnsions.

>>30976792
exactly that's why i love the USP i will deal with the proprietary rail just to get those clean unbroken lines

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>>30976792
The gun I wish existed would be more or less a USP with the P2000 rail, front slide cut and decocker plus the match trigger. I definitely have to pick up a USP45T, but I'm really thinking about getting a P2000 for carry. Just putting together a list of accessories that work for them beforehand

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>>30976846

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I love this little P2000sk. I was at the range today and I can shoot it as well as my full size pistols.

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>>30976846
Third anon here. That's actually why I like the UTL style lights with the lenses upgrade but I go back and forth with the looks/price. The UTL just fits the era

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>>30976888
USP .45 on cutting mat bro

>>30976946
>>30976946
i have never really found the utl aesthetically pleasing it always smacked me of cheap plastic but then again your right it does fit the time period.

>>30976990
ayyyyy
i fucking love having the mat, after so long working on hand-me-down wooden desk its nice to have my own little work space.

>>30976990
why is the round backward?

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>>30976990
Same date code and caliber as the USP used in Collateral.

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imma start searching for a xc1. anyone used one? i think this hide tst p30 rail nicely. also, p-id is important.

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>>30977055
bonus points, my name is also vincent.

>>30977049
no fucking really why the fuck is the round backward????

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>>30977049
>>30977098
why do you think?

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>>30977049
>>30977098
Memes bro memes

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>>30977069
Apparently the XC1 barely fits the P2000 and won't fit the sk so that sucks dick. I would like to see a XC2 that's a bit longer to take advantage of some of the longer rails setups with a bit more battery maybe. It would be neat and still less bulky than a lot of lights

>>30977086
mine's john. so i almost got it right with the p30, but really in needed a longslide model with compensator

>>30977086
Please don't fag this thread up with your CZ/anime/tranny-posting.

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>>30976993
It certainly can look cheap sometimes BUT it's made for the cyberdyne system model 101 of handguns and vaguely reminds me of a less retarded LAM so it grew on me.

>>30977175
nice. i'm not too particular with getting the exact models that movie/comic/manga characters had, i just happened to luck out with this USP. i'd like jean reno's inox beretta next, but i think i'll try going for the vertec or brigadier versions instead of a plain-jane inox.

>>30977221
i don't plan to, buddy. its sad how those threads have degraded into pure and utter degeneracy.

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>>30977148
Well that was the wrong file

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>>30977232
forgot pic.

>>30977224
honestly i wish the USP had more readily available muzzle brake/ stand off devices i mean its already a hunk of industrial German engineering, might as well go all "Auto 9" on it.

>>30977292
The gun is already stand-off capable without any devices.

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>>30977292
Oddly enough standoff is what first brought WML into favor for me, but it you really wanted too you could pick up some weights for sheer sex appeal and minor utility. The merkel weight looks better but you kinda need an expert

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>>30977327
Even more reason why that whole family is fantastic

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I can't get over the dilemma of choosing a Glock 43 or a P30SK for my first carry gun. The Glock would be nice to carry anywhere at any time; the P30SK will complement my full size P30 and there's basically no transitioning between the full size and the SK as the controls are the same.

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>>30977712
How about a P30 vs not a bullshit cash grab gun that the G42 and G43 are?

If you want a comfy single stack why not a shield or FNS compact for a nice doubestack. Both better out of the box guns than the glocks

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>>30977778
That being said, paddle mag releases are hard to beat

>>30977778
To be honest I shot with a Shield not too long ago and the trigger was terrible. I'm familiar with Glock triggers and like them. I'm certain that I would have to rehabilitate the Shield with an Apex trigger.

I don't like the M&Ps in general. They're all right, but something puts me off about them.

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I'll start posting some of my HKs too.

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>>30977923

MOAR.

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>>30977948

With bonus S&W from a recent range trip.

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>>30977852
I can respect that, though I'm the opposite since the M&P line fits me better and for the most part triggers are easily the most replaced part on pistols anyway. Plus I've been a DA/SA guy for so long that most triggers don't bother me

>>30977997
600 dollars for an HK is a bargain, though. It would be a great entry for anyone into the brand (excluding the VP9). I think it says a lot about the competitiveness of the concealed carry market and how tough it is -- why else would they lower the price?

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>>30977978

33K clone

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Strangest thing I found the other day was a 2 round G36 magazine.
What would even be the purpose of something like that?

>>30978086
Germany only allows a 2 round capacity magazine for civilian semi-autos. It's the law.

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>>30978033
I'm definitely liking the price drops and I think a decent bit of the general premium is probably more import related than the usual superiority memes suggest. Remember when the VP9 came out and half of /k/ was saying it was a poorfag HK for being priced competitively? As far as I know the VP9 wasnt a contract gun to start with so that may have been some of it. Idk of they have a ton of P30s sitting around, or if it's the market pressure of some political slack but it's definitely a win for the civil market.

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>>30974453
>lay away

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>>30974453
You done goofed up nig

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>>30976507
that thieving brown hand

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HK93

What does /k/ use to lube her HKs?

>>30977712
>>30977778 <-- this bro.

Fuck tiny guns. Carry the P30. It's not that big anyway. People carry Glock 19s all the time. Hell I can carry a full size double stack .45 without printing. My next carry gun is going to be a full size USP .45. Follow your dreams bro don't listen to the youtubers or gun rag writers "well uhhh this definitely isn't a concealed carry gun" yeah maybe for you little tight-clothes pussy-ass hipster bitch.

Seriously the distinction between "this is a carry gun" and "this is not a carry gun" is all in our minds. I hate when people say something isn't good for CC because THEY can't carry it. Well fuck them, you do you.

P30 is a fucking sickass gun bro carry that shit, own it. Stick an XC1 on it, even cooler.

Unless you need an excuse for the wife to buy more guns. Then P30SK :)

>>30976200
Flitz metal polish and a rag.

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>>30978903
Sorry to tell you this anon but behind every gun posted here lurks...
The hand

>>30980366
the shorter the barrel, the easier it is for appendix
the shorter the grip, the less it prints.

small guns have a place, and id rather carry a p30sk than a p30

>>30978794
i mean, I didn't buy a vp9
and I gave the ppq serious consideration. I'd like to own one in the future, but for the moment, I wanted my damn h&k.

>>30982277
Just giving you shit man. Yeah I seriously considered a vp9. In the end I went with the PPQ because I've wanted one for longer. This HK thread definitely makes my peepee hard though.

>>30976990
I see what you did there

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>>30974453
>putting a gun on layaway
>not waiting to take it home when you actually have the cash, even with Hillary gouging

>>30974453

Late to the thread OP. But nice tastes. HK is great first gun.

>>30974589

P30 is a little bigger than G19 iirc.

>>30976057

Posting one of the worst HKs.

>>30976200

USP trigger > P2k > HK45 > P30. Learn to reset during recoil and it wouldn't a problem. As you get more time on firearms, you'll learn that the forceful Glock reset isn't necessarily always desirable for nice triggers.

>>30976617

Get real night sights. If it's a target gun, get thinner front post. If carry gun, get Trijicon HD size is fine.

>>30982933
if I pay the same, and I legally can't take it home right now, why not?

>>30975304
No second mag?

>>30982933
Layaway makes a lot of sense for when guns go on sale, or guns that have spotty availability. For example, the CZ 75 SP-01 has been out of stock everywhere for the past few weeks that I've been checking. In the past, I've seen them sell for $600, but other times of the year, you can't get them at all.

>>30983004
The grip is about the same, but the total length is longer on the P30.

>>30983004
OP here fuck you. I love the 320 as a standalone system. it sucks on the front of the rifle, but with a wolf tail and velcro cuff I had no problems carrying it and was really fun doing quals with it.

I would never stick on my rifle given the choice, and thankfully at my unit I do.

I dont have a lot of time on pistols, and ive shot less than 50 rounds through a p30. but im not too worried about the length of the reset or the pull, but a little more tactile would be nice.
i was comparing p2000 and p30 sights. I thought they were both servicable, but i actually really liked the p30 stock sights. not sure if that was clear.
>>30983031
look again

>>30983133

Okay I've not used a 320 (only 203) and I'm not military, so I'll take your word on that. What I've heard is that most soldiers hate it because it's heavier and bulkier than 203, the trigger is atrocious, and there are currently no upgraded munitions to take advantage of the side loading system.

Personally those sights are useless because you have to charge them under a light to use them for 15mins. They are day time only. It's fine if you run a light.

>>30983031
>>30983133
*no second mag pouch.
Where do you carry it?

>>30983838
trigger sucks yeah, but its a grenade launcher. and its a nightmare on the rifle because you cant get a good hold of your rifle