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So a fa/tg/uy here, I've loved lurking on /k/ for a while and I'm planning to run a sci-fi game in one of my favorite settings for how unique it is, 2300 AD. I came along here to just post the game's assumptions about high-tech weaponry, and see what the denizens of the board all about weapons might think.

First, what is 2300 AD? It's a roleplaying game set after Twilight 2000, which was a 1983 exploration of the Cold War eventually going hot. It's possibly the most /k/ RPG ever made, focusing on playing a group of carousing U.S. soldiers in no man's land, AKA Poland. You have no idea what's going on, there's no fuel at all, and getting back home is very, very unlikely. 2300 AD takes place 300 years after low grade nuclear war, but also in their scenario, France left NATO, so got out of the nuclear war relatively unscathed. This led them to dominating the next few centuries.

First weapon up is French:

SENPAI-90 (Fusil Automatique Magnetique-2090): The standard infantry of the first-line French forces, the SENPAI-90 Gauss Rifle fires single shots at high velocity, giving good aimed fire accuracy, and fires bursts at much lower velocity, giving the rifle excellent controllability on automatic fire. The optic sights incorporate a low-power laser range finder for aimed fire. An HR-17 30mm grenade launcher is mounted below the barrel. It holds a 60 round magazine of 4.5x20mm flechette rounds.

Next up is Russian, the Space AK

AS-89 (Automat Segetov 2289): The standard Soviet Russian infantry weapon, the AS-89 incorporates a reliable optic sight and an integral 30mm G-2 grenade launcher. The AS-89 found a home for a time in the hands of hired mercenaries of the French Arm(The biggest Colonial Region). In fact, this weapon of men who were for hire, and as such is an institution in and of itself. It is shorter range Gauss Rifle than the SENPAI-90, and fires 4.54x21mm ammunition in a 60 round magazine.
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>>30974240
>SENPAI-90
Wait, what?
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>>30974240
Our first Sniper rifle, also French:

FTE-10 (Fusil Tiralleur d'Elite-10): Generally, each French squad contains at least one FTE-10(or similar) sniper rifle for use in long range aimed fire. The Fusil Tiralleur d'Elite-10 is a very low-noise weapon, which makes it excellent for harassment fire from concealment. The FTE-10 can also penetrate light armor at reasonable ranges. Due to its great physical length, the FTE-10 has gained the nickname "Kentucky Long-rifle" among American soldiers. Soldiers who are assigned to carry the FTE-10 often do so under protest. It fires a 10x37 flechette round with a 10box magazine.

This one is what made me want to post here:

Type-81 Storm Gun: Shortly before the Central Asian War, there was a flurry of interest in man-carried heavy caliber "storm guns," mostly brought on by Manchuria's adoption of the Type-81. The storm gun was intended to provide light anti-vehicle and anti-bunker fire, and the exploding round was expected to give a good area fire capability. In service however, the weapon proved disappointing, so although it is still in service, no replacement has been planned. Private interest for such a weapon has also dried up. One problem of the early versions involved an exposed recoil cylinder of the telescopic shock absorbing shoulder stock. Sand and grit contaminated lubricants of the cylinder, fouling it to the point that Manchurian troops (those not discarding the weapon altogether) were often forced to brace the shoulder stock against a rock or tree when firing. After the Central Asian War, most Type-81s were refitted to fix this issue.

So, that's some goofy guns, but there's alot more. Does /k/ want to see any more?
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>>30974282
Word filters. F.A.M.-90?
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>>30974282
AHAHAHA

AHAHAHA

it's the askdasd, fuck.

It's the F-A-M, for Fusil Automatique Magnetique, but the fucking thing translated it to senpai.
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Have the armor section.

God, I miss the 80s.
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Some ironic fake history.
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>>30974332
>Soldiers who are assigned to carry the FTE-10 often do so under protest
"- Leshawn, it's your turn carrying the Kentucky frog stick today !
- Sheeeeit."

>>30974579
>Germany balkanized and Bavaria is a thing
>France was the only global power
>Creating the French Peace
Can my dick get harder ?
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>>30974626
Sadly the Germans unify in 2240s, and force Bavaria in a small war to join under duress. However, Bavaria still exists as 3 space colonies in the French Arm.

French Peace sadly ends in 2150, when Argentina threatens it over Alpha Centauri colonies and France backs down - showing everyone France is no longer the only superpower. Six years later, a war happens over Alpha Centauri anyway. However, France makes some serious gains over the next hundred years and essentially never losses a war until the end of the timeline when a serious Central Asian conflict with Manchuria drags on.
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>>30974626
>>30974671
And have one of my favorite parts of the setting
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>>30974671
>However, France makes some serious gains over the next hundred years and essentially never losses a war until the end of the timeline when a serious Central Asian conflict with Manchuria drags on.
Ha ! Get reckt Argentina ! Les Malouines sont françaises !
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Why does every sci-fi firearm setting have flechette rounds

Is it really the most superior space ammo or whut
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Other fa/tg/uy here.

One of the more amusing things about 2300 AD is that it was created using something called The Game that GDW never released publicly. Basically everyone at GDW played this month long super detailed game of Civilization -but on pen and paper- starting from the Twilight War until the year reached 2300AD, which is how they came up with the complete history for the setting.

I wish those rules were made public, because it's the kind of thing I think /k/ and /tg/ would appreciate.
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>>30975784
Maybe we could track down former employees for a copy.
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>>30975595
Flechettes are basically APFSDS for small-arms.

So yeah. Great stuff.
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>>30975595
It has pretty big advantages as far as armor piercing and terminal ballistics.
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>>30976009
>>30976017
Informative!

Anyone want more 2300 AD guns, we didn't even get to the bastard little German guns
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>>30976568
I'm interested. Tell us about it!
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>>30976651
Wait I can just do this!

Ha!
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>>30976777
>Brazil makes shitty guns

Man, nothing changes.
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>>30976880
Yep. The next page, a look at the guns themselves.
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>>30976919
Now some civvie guns.
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>>30976930
Man these are some 40k lookin' sluggers.
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>>30976919
Remember when bullpup was the answer to everything? A e s t h e t i c as fuck, but damn.
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>>30977293
I'm not too /k/ so I don't know what you mean.
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>>30974240
Ok, what's the power source of these gauss rifles? Rechargeable or replaceable? Logistics matter, always.

About these laser rangefinders- think it through, anon. If you lase somebody, their threat detector goes off. Depending on which hardware and software package they have, it either sounds an audible or it carats a range and bearing on their holoHUD.

Unless, of course, you're up against the Stroganschleiger 2150 SentryPak. Then you get a miniHawk hypervelocity missile homing on your emitter. Better hope your individual countermeasures suite has been updated recently.
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>>30974332
So the sniper rifle is subsonic? That would affect velocity and terminal ballistics. What kind of AP ammo does it use?
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>>30977506
They're powered by rechargeable energy packs. Remember this was designed in a time when rangefinders were brand new shit and countermeasures hadn't really been developed. At least I think, it was made in 1983, but the science might have been implemented early as 1981.

>>30977539
It says it has a muzzle velocity of 1400 miles per hour. Does that help?
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>>30975595
Personally, when I dabble in sci-fi, I go with variations of gyrojet rounds. I like self-propelled ammo.

I'll typically go with 100 round mags, including an integral flask of liquified gas propellant. These can also be used as field expedient demo charges, with effort. The rounds themselves can be polarized and polymerized to give a desired effect. AP, dumb slug, incendiary, 6 or 12 piece flechette, soft tip squash head, smoke, and airburst.

I could go on for a while. I like thinking about this stuff.
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>>30977697
You should read the Frontlines series by Marko Kloos. He has a pretty detailed look at future mil-sci-fi.
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>>30977697
So Spess Mehreens?
On a serious note, we need to see more love for the BFG
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>>30977669
I actually had a copy of Twilight 2000 for a while, I remember it fondly.

I was just extrapolating a reasonable progression of the weapon and counter technology. I keep forgetting how long ago 1983 was. That was the year before Apple's iconic commercial, and I'd been on AD for 4 years.

>1400 mph

That's around 2000 fps, give or take. Not stellar velocity, but still supersonic. The gin can be suppressed, but the round is still going to make a loud crack.
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>>30977721
>forward mounted holo sigh for better peripheral vision
>shorter magazine to stay out of the way when prone
>stock connected to the grip for no apparent reason
>fuckhuge receiever despite the bolt supposedly recoiling downwards
>magazine release nowhere near magazine

hehe
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I wonder why no scifi ever seems to have the US and US weapons retain their current dominance. Not enough room for creativity?
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>>30977813
I wish Twilight 2000 got a digital reprint, with the rules organized in a way that makes sense. Or hell, just a PDF version so it's easy to read, fuck the rules. The setting was amazing. Two decades of global war and unrest, ending at a point no one can really do much of anything anymore.

AD? Don't know what that is.

Well it's got to decide between being real,a nd being super sci-fi bullshit. Even if it's hard sci-fi that attempts to give a reasoning behind it, with guns you gotta do something to make them stand out mechanically.
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>>30977860
In this setting there is a reason for that. The United States suffered nuclear strikes, a war with Mexico while most of its armed forces were in Europe, and a civil war - all happening at the same time. And we still got our shit together, liberated Texas, and went on to colonize an entire region of space on our own!
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>>30977781
>So Spess Mehreens?

Yeah. I was 180K words into my first trilogy when I realized I was doing a bad derivative of the Empire of Man series by Weber and Ringo. Fuck, I was pissed.

I did a lot of background development on gear, things like canteens and poncho liners and the like. I was especially proud of inventing little handheld AI devices with touchscreens, called tac pads, that could do all kinds of data crunching on the fly. Mind you, this was in 2005. Then the friggen iPhone came out in 07. That pretty much killed any thoughts I had of revamping the storyline. My imagination is only 2 years ahead of technology.
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>>30977866
AD is active duty.
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>>30977991
Damn, there's old fags, and then there's you.

Sir.
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>>30977981
Microsoft had a proto-Smartphone back in 00s
Never made it to mass market though

I like the equipment, gear and look of the Adeptus Mechanicus though.
Not sure on the feasibility though
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>>30977866
>super sci-fi bullshit.

Thing is, it may be fiction but the science still has to add up. You can handwave some of it if you come up with a plausible sounding excuse involving futuristic tech and materials science.

How about this: the rounds have a flexible monomolecular polymer coating that stretches out into a tail that cushions the projectile transiting through the sound barrier. Call it the Hayazuki Flutter Effect, or somesuch.

This kind of stuff isn't real necessary in a game, but it's the kind of grace note your players will appreciate.
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>>30978060
It's totally feasible if Microsoft and embedded vendors continue sharting out proprietary, poorly functioning software for the next 20,000 years. Windows sysadmin work is full of nonsense, ritual, and occult secrets already. There's an entire secret edition of Windows 10 for HIPAA compliance that they won't sell without an NDA.
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>>30978005
I'm not the oldest anon on /k/, by a long shot. We had a Vietnam vet roaming around in here a couple of years ago.
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>>30978092
Praise the Ominissiah!
The Emperor is among us
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>>30977721
Isnt that just a vektor. Maid even shittier l?
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>>30978114
He's not the Emperor until January 20th.
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Some more 2300 AD.

>>30978110
Did you know about 2300 AD? You mentioned Twilight 2000, but not it. Also, what did you think of Twilight 2000, anything specific?
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>>30978384
And to not leave everyone high and dry, here's the illustration of the guns on this page.
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>>30974240

>SENPAI-90

my fucking sides
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>>30977721
>Intermediate cartridge chambered vector
>2016 price $2,800
>Fucking awesome

Nightmare mode: [ENABLED]
>HK is stamped on the receiver
>$8,000
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You better fucking mention that the M2 Browning is still in service by the US. And that it's still going strong.
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>>30978640
It fucking might, actually. A lot of the weapons that work, work, and there's not much point in changing them since not much has changed with ballistics comparatively. Recovering from nuclear war and not that much desire for war does that.

Hell, I think the last war the U.S. was a part of, was in 2046 over the Independence of Texas.
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Here, have the most sci-fi bullshittery 2300 AD gets.

With that, I'm resting my eyes. Goodnight /k/, hope the thread survives.
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>>30974240
Reminder that you are now obligated to rename it the SENPAI-90.
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>>30978932
Make it a sniper rifle for max lels.
>grunts on patrol
>*head splat* ... BOOM
>"Oh shit, SENPAI noticed us!"
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>>30978664
this is why as long as guns exist, the AK and AR platforms will continue driving spergs to REEE

semi autos will be the 21st centuries bolt action. Just like your ridden hard and put away wet ex dragoon 91-30 is still going strong in 2016, your great grandkids going to shitpost from augmented reality about how shitty the fuddy Billet AR15 with it's gritty Timney trigger, antiquated Mlok free flat rail, and shitty Acog with non digital magnifier is that he found buried in a nitrogen purged tube out in the yard.
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>>30976919
>literally an SA80
>literally a mirrored AR
>kek
>literally a G11

I want to torture the designer.
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Future guns bump
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One last bump.
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