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>>30957439
First for prisma

Gotta put some heart into it if you are going to make it.

No nice message you could add to it?

Does anybody have any experience dealing with irunguns?
I noticed that they have some guns I was looking at for less, but I want to make sure they're 100% legit before placing an order.
The super blurry pictures and illegible description in particular make me hesitant, the fuck kind of retailer is this?

>>30957522
Nah man.

>>30957581
Thanks for making it, but maybe leave it to someone else next time.

Any one here have experience with leverarms and wolverine supplies? Also what are some good milsurp stores to order from online? I ask cause I can't really find any good ones and I live in a very small town with the closet city being 3 hours away

>>30957854
Lever is good mail order. Heard they are dicks in person. Wolverine is one of the best dealers in Canada.
Trade-ex is pretty good and P&S is one of the best but he only deals in cheques or money order.

>>30957877
Cool thanks for the info guy

>>30957877
theyre not dick really, they're just not super friendly or chatty if you act like a faggot

theyve always been nice to me

Vz 58 223 with AR mag adapter or T97 FTU?

>>30958189
Type 97 ftu is my vote. Would be a harder choice if 7.62x39 vz58.

>>30958417

Does the 7.62 have a mag adapter and mags bigger than 5 rounds?

>>30958464
Yeah you can use the 5.56 adapter with a bit of work IIRC and there are adapters specifically for 7.62 rifles but they're a littler harder to find.

Also with 7.62 you are limited to 10 as the beo mags don't work well at all with the 7.62 taper. So get XCR-M pistol mags

>>30958488

OK I'll keep that in mind.

>>30957854
lever is ok, but you gotta pay by cheque, no emt, thats fuckin gay, they do get some good stock for fair price tho.
wolverine is absolutely fantastic to deal with, great guys, good price, fast shipping, great website, i have made about a dozen purchases from them, always a pleasure.

>>30957877
no, tradex does emt. they are really good, but i don't really like their website. it seems like the guns they have are expensive and uninteresting, but the ammo is great.

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anyone use these? i have been very impressed with them. i have never been able to do a full mag dump without a jam, but me and the gf have a lot of fun with them.

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>>30958731
you better have pinned those to 5 rounds

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some fresh oc on some stale bread

>>30958745
ya, no. we don much care for the new regs, so we choose not to follow them. get fucked rcmp

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>>30958731
My work flawlessly
>>30958745
Rcmp can suck a huge cock these were designed for rifles therefore they are leagl and exempt

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>>30958753
Prisma that shit nigga

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>>30958765
enjoy prison, criminal scum

Anyone know where you can get those bayonet mounted bipods for the VZ58 these days? I've been looking around and can't find any.
>>30958799
>Rimfire rifles are exempt from magazine capacity limitations

>>30958765
>Rcmp can suck a huge cock these were designed for rifles therefore they are leagl and exempt
Are you a fucking lawyer?! You think you know more than us about what's best for public safety?


>Anyone know where you can get those bayonet mounted bipods for the VZ58 these days? I've been looking around and can't find any.
i got mine from ebay, a dude in the CR sells them

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Metal-Bipod-Vz-58-Vz-2008-CZ-858-Czechoslovakia-Unused-/141872213953?hash=item21083e2fc1:g:oGoAAOSwX~dWj~Iw

Pretty expensive, CSA also makes a bipod, foregrip thing

what's going on here

>>30958833
>Are you a fucking lawyer?!
Are the RCMP lawyers?
Also thanks for the link.

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>>30958753

>>30958833
the mags say right on them made for the 10/22 rifle. i fucking swear rcmp are almost on the level of hysterical cat ladys when it come to firearms law. such poor reading comprehension
Sad!

>>30958908
cool filter dude. is that called prism?

>>30958862
the guy is based too, he'll probably low ball the value hardcore so you dont have to pay duty, i ordered two of them and didnt have to pay anything

>>30958946
Nice, I'll probably order from him soon.

>>30959475
Reminder that anything you do can go viral.

>>30959495
I meant to post that on another board actually

>>30959475

One: this retard has the same contact information for his business AND personal residence. That's just asinine. Stupid fucking kids see your number on your truck? Prank calls at 2 am. Disgruntled customer want some revenge? Fucker can just look your stupid ass up and come slash your tires. At least put a TINY amount of distance between your personal and professional life.

Also, this cock gobbler has a truck that takes up two normal spots either way. Ok, fine, he needs his sweet lifted truck for his business, ok. But you don't see semi-truckers parking across 16 spots closest to Wal-Mart.

This massive douche should be parking at the very farthest back spots, let alone the goddamn handicapped ones.

>>30959519
sure, but i think the people who take it upon themselves to go berserk about such a minor issue are bigger cunts than he is though

nosy people who flip out whenever someone breaks in rules are far more annoying than the occasional rude person

Man! I go away for a fuckin hour!
What happened here?

>>30959694
i accidentally posted something off topic in this thread meant for another board but it got a bunch of responses

>>30959720
Can you link the other thread? Now my curiosity is going apeshit.

>>30958811
corwin arms

>>30959800
>>>/int/63385858
ftfy

>>30959755
it was just this article http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-man-shamed-online-for-parking-in-disability-space-1.3718502

>>30959814
oh thanks, i'll have to remember that

how much time and money will it take for me to get a PAL? Its 800 dollars and 11 months minimum to get your drivers license in quebec, fucking bullshit

>>30959843
costs around $300 where I am (BC)

200~ for the course, $80 for your application

>>30959814
>>30959821
Aaahhhhhhh...
Thanks

>>30959843
time wise the course is usually like a two day thing on the weekend, then you wait for the rcmp to approve your application

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>>30959843

>>30959848
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>>30959865
thanks y'all

>>30959779
Don't have any.

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I was so excited to get my first "tactical" rifle. I was going to put rails on it, get a red dot, maybe an AFG and a folding stock. Now that I've seen it and held it though... I don't know how to say this, but I think rifle might be fine.

>>30959952
You should try a after market pistol grip they feel so much nicer then the one it comes with and it doesn't ruin to over all look of the rifle.

>>30960039
The Fab Defense ones? If I put one of those on it'd probably tip me into doing the whole rifle. That said, the stock grip is kind of small and slippery.

>>30960090
the CSA ones are nice

>>30958464
>>30958488

You can use the polymer CSA magwell adapter with XCR pistol mags in a 7.62x39 VZ58 without any modifications needed (aside from installing the new bolt catch and mag release that comes with the magwell).

Hey guys. I am waiting for CRFSC results to return before mailing my PAL app in, but I'm worried I've been put on some sort of watchlist that will pop up for the RCMP. In the past seven years I've made posts on forums and boards opposing multiculturalism, muslim immigration, LGBT, feminism, and commented on blacks as a net drain on society, jewish influence and globalized financial institutions like IMF/ECB. Basically everything opposed to the political status quo in Canada.

Is there any chance I've been put on a list that will be flagged when my app goes to the RCMP? I have no criminal record or history of mental illness.

>>30960477
I really doubt it will make any difference

>>30960477
>I have no criminal record or history of mental illness.

That's literally all they look for. If you pass that you're good to go, although I would still refrain from posting stormfront-esque drivel on facebook or the like just in case a SJW was angered enough to report you for 'hate crimes' or some shit.

If anyone was looking for an "Interesting" NR rifle someone is selling a JARD 48 on CGN.
These are apparantly kinda unrelable but ar like ergos, NR and take Stanag mags. Not sure if the relability issues have been fixed since they were sold here last.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1441008-Jard-J48-semiauto-223

>>30960758
Vapour-ware that are pieces of shit to begin with anyways. I'd sooner trust a JR Carbine over these abominations.

>Just ordered my first 1911 from Wanstalls
Hype boys

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>>30960800
If only they brought in these instead. Man that butt plate tho has to go.
http://www.jardinc.com/jard-j67/

>>30960477
i'm pretty sure the two or three overworked clerks who deal with the millions of licenses have time to trawl through the internet for your shitposting.

>>30957535

I bought a p-09 from them, had no problems and got a free t-shirt.

I would deal with them again

>>30959865
In Nova Scotia it's $100 each for the PAL and RPAL courses.

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>>30958753
>>30959952
Moar vz's, this is my kinda thread.

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>>30958753
is there a better sling for the VZ than the basic milsurp style it comes with?
something more comfy or tacticool?
any difference in sling consideration for the fixed vs folding stock version?

>>30960861
It's actually something like 11 civilians with one sergeant overseeing.
Their entire job is to troll forums and social media to look for infractions.

>>30957535
They are legit. Less painful for ordering imports than Brownells.

>>30961673
Any 2 point sling works. Vickers and VTAC slings are popular here. I personally use a Spec Ops padded sling because it can switch to 1 point and is cheap on Amazon. The knockoff Magpul MS2 sling on Amazon is good too.

>>30959952
Forget any kind of foregrip and front rail. Foregrips are unnecessary unless you have a lot of shit on your front rail and can't grip it properly otherwise. They are also useful on short barreled rifles for quick maneuvering according to some, but I find that claim to be dubious. Foregrips, for the most part, add useless weight and can snag on objects when shooting from cover. I would also avoid front rails on the vz58 because the ones that actually hold zero make the gun nose heavy. Put an optic on top and it is even worse. You also can't put any magnified scopes on it due to the short length of the rail, limiting your optics choices to a small red dot sight.
My recommendation for vz58 customizations are a rear rail mounted to the receiver with an optic of your choice, an aftermarket grip if you want, a muzzle brake and a bayonet mounted flashlight. The rear mounted rail is preferred over dust cover rails because you don't have to remove it every time you want to clean the gun and it is cheaper. The bayonet mounted flashlight is kind of a compromise if you don't want to use a front rail because it is a little awkward to reach. However, I have used a quad rail on a vz before and I assure you that the weight and cost savings are worth it.

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>>30960477

I've done most of that shit (although I'm not anti-jews like the rest of /pol/) and my application was approved and issued in 29 days.

>tfw it didn't get here this week ;_;

>>30961756
thanks, just wondering because single-point seems like it would be a little clownish, with the long-ass NR barrel smacking your shins

>>30961894
Thanks for the advice, that actually really helps. I'll steer clear of adding weight to the front. My favorite customized VZ I've seen is this one and it uses a stock handguard. I'd like to emulate it but I was somewhat wary of adding a side rail to my receiver.

>>30962062
Single points really aren't that useful anyway, outside of shotguns and quick switches to the weak hand

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>>30962103
Forgot my image. I wanted to make something similar to this.

>>30961894
Good advice, the only thing I would point out is that the flashlight mounts that go on the bayonet lug are usually $100 or more, which is more than I'm willing to pay. If you have seen any for less, let me know.

>>30962103
Side mounted rails are the sturdiest. Optics designed for Russian weapons can fit on the mounting hardware of the vz58 so that is nice too. Just be wary of cheekweld if you are going to use an optic - generally speaking, optics on the Vz and AK are mounted a tad high and require a rise if you like putting your cheekbone on the stock rather than the fleshy part if your cheek or jawline. Look at a FAMAS with a scope mounted on the top for a full retard example.

>>30962124
Gonna have to wait a bit on the stock adapter I don't they're are in country yet.

>Parts list incase you wanted
*Side mount rail (Some rifles come with this as standard I think the CSA ones)
RS regulate low vz mount w/ aimpoint attachment
Aimpoint pro
RS regulate stock adapter and magpul Zhukov-S stock
Polymer forend looks just polymer with custom stippling.
Not sure what is available for fake suppressors for the vz threading in Canada but im sure theres some.

>>30962205
I'm not going to bother with the fake suppressor, but I'm definitely looking forward to the stock adapter coming out. The rail in the pic seems a little expensive at $200.

>>30962391
Yeah it is there are other options in both side mount and replacement reciever covers that are much cheaper.

Boutta take the CFSC and Ontario hunter safety course one-stop, what should I expect? I've only ever shot pump shotguns

>>30962596
It will be easy and boring. GLHF

Seems like marstar is kill on CGN.

>>30962872
Maybe john got sick of all the retards on cgn

Type 81 when?

>>30962988
Tomorrow

>>30962872
Reading a thread on the off topic, might have something to do with the T2 garands being unsafe or fake? There's a huge thread but I'm not going to read the whole thing

>>30962981

Or maybe they called him out for selling garbage. I can't understand why a business would even try such a thing and not expect people to find out.

>>30963019

Yea it's the T2 garands using Danish parts and some hack job on the locking lugs of the bolt. Welded and grinded down.

>>30963019
They're both.
Italian parts assembled on Danish recievers with new barrels. Advertised as authentic and superior to commercial when they're simply poorly made commercial.
Barrels were poorly installed and have excessive headpsace. Bolt were welded and ground to fit and are unsafe to use.
Basically a stockpile of nice parts got butchered by a hack taking 13 minutes per rifle and then sold as premium rifles.

>>30963078
Meanwhile john was nitpicking at random comments aside from dealing with the problem first hand.

Anyone here bought a Marstar Garand? How long did it take to get your money back?

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>>30958845
hey tok guy, why the change in trip?

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>>30963599
I was actually gonna joke about that myself.

>>30963019
TL:DR is that they are advertised as authentic T2 Garand rifles done by Breda and Beretta company chambered in .308 and when he first posted about them, I actually believed him, given the extremely small numbers he imported relative to the market (IIRC roughly 130 rifles). They turned out to be complete fakes, since they were built on Danish receivers (putting the starting point as outside the area for actual T2 Garands), and used a ton of commercial parts (like a repurposed .30-06 barrel instead of a purpose built .308 barrel like the original T2s). On top of all that, the bolts were heavily modified to fit and "work" resulting in an extremely dangerous rifle to fire, primarily because the locking lugs could very easily fail and you could catch an M1 bolt with your face, something you don't want to do, at least if you want to keep your face.

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>>30957439
Anyone else here put in any range time this afternoon? I did some draws and defensive shooting, realized i need far more training to get the movements down to muscle memory but overall did more than most people, enjoy r8 h8 whatever. Let's see your shooting
https://youtu.be/FYeCqLf5Uhk

https://youtu.be/p4WaKQqhNE8

https://youtu.be/bB8wMRKmG3I

Sneeki breeki pic unrelated

>>30964245
What's the point when you can't carry in Canada?

>>30964249
Sure you can, you have a waist band dont you? Do you want your purse to get stolen? Cause thats how you get your purse stolen

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>>30964245
Going to three gun competition tomorrow.

>>30964313
National or international? Or just fucking around on a 3gun course? If i wasnt chronically broke id get into 3gun myself

>>30964313
>TFW all you need for a poorfag 3 setup is a handgun
>TFW all you need for an actually good 3 gun setup is a handgun and about $500 in magazines, carriers, gun mods, and other stuff.
>TFW when it's going to be probably 4 years before you can actually get into it properly, in terms of both equipment and range time

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>>30964345
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>>30964345
I travel around Sask and into Eastern Alberta. I'am competitive but pretty servility handicapped. Ever other guy is running a AR with 10rd mags and a semi auto shotgun. If you want to try the guys are bro's and you'll earn cred if you can run an inferior guns well. Round count overall is fairly low probably 100 rounds each or rifle and pistol, maybe two boxes of shotgun ammo.

Not my vid, but another competitor from last weeks shoot in saskatoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZSmKoqPLw&index=16&list=WL

>>30964551
How does scoring work? Do you score by how fast you get through the course or how many hits on target you have?

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>>30964598
>>30964598
>Finishing time
>Failures to engage
>Penalties on hostages

Overall its pretty casual. you could show up will an SKS and whatever 9mm semi you can get your hands on. A couple mag pouches and a dump pouch full of shot shells is all you really need. Don't be intimidated by the guys with a box worth of shot shells on their race belt.

Hoo boy this marstar t2 garand thing is entertaining

Would a Vz.58 be just as good as an SKS for SHTF? Could one hunt with it?

>>30964893
I'd say better
>Shorter
>Made to take magazines
>still able to top up with stripper clips
>Easier to clean
>Pistol Grip

Something like .308 will always be a better hunting round than 7.62x39. But I dumped five Hornady SST's into a charging bear once and stopped it dead in its tracks.

>>30965014
>charging bear

Were you scared? What was it like?

Any recommendations for a first handgun for around $500-600?

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>>30961411
this app is an impressionist's dream/nightmare made real.

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>>30965036
My Father was a bear outfitter so I grew up baiting and hunting bears. You just read their body language and go into autopilot when its time.
>pic related first archery kill at 12y/o

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>>30965157
I know right

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>>30957520
I fucking love this app.

>>30965127
The "I still want money left over for ammunition" tier:
>Tokarev TT-33
>Zastava M70A

The "It's alright, I guess" tier:
>Walther P1
>Smith & Wesson SD9VE (some people say that it's almost perfect after it's had a trigger job)

"I like limited package deals and don't give a shit about the long run":
>Walther PPX

"I actually want the same stuff that the big boys play with, I just don't have as much money":
>Used Glocks
>Used Smith & Wesson M&P

"I actually want the same stuff that the big boys play with, and I'm really poor":
>Norinco clones of existing handguns

>>30965565
Turbo-nigger tier:
>GSG 1911
>Star Model B Super Pistol

>>30965014
How does it compare to the absolutely reliable ruggedness of the SKS?

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>>30965739
Both are equally as rugged and reliable. They are very similar internally except the VZ is striker fired where the SKS is hammer fired. I've put >5000 though mine with 2 or so light primer strikes.

Why is the SKS recommended as a starter rifle?

Sure it's cheap but the ammo is much more expensive than .22lr, and by the time a new shooter has acclimated to shooting for example a Ruger 10/22, wouldn't it be better to pick up a "better" more expensive gun like an AR of sorts which performs better than an SKS?

Sorry for the ignorance in my post, I'm nogunz.

>>30965987
Reliability, simplicity. It was designed to be issued to illiterate conscripts, so as long as you keep it fairly clean you cant really fuck it up.

Just became hasguns today, bought an SKS.

>>30965948
I love how tough the SKS is. I feel like I could beat a bear to death with it, then throw it off Mount Thor and it'd be fine. And that's great for a SHTF scenario. Could you trust you Vz like that?

>>30965987
Because it's incredibly forgiving to rookie mistakes, easy to maintain, has an ECKSBAWKSHUGE aftermarket, is reasonably accurate, and will do pretty much anything you ask. Another anon called it the "ultimate Operate-on-a-budget gun", and I agree.

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We postin' VZ's?

>>30964313
Shit man, what clamp you got on that barrel for your light?

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>>30966213
We posting every in prisma

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>>30966390
Everything*

>>30966390
B-but, I don't have prisma

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does any place in Canada sell TT-33 spare parts?
in particular looking for recoil spring replacement (mine has weird erosion spot that has me worried spring will fail sometime soon)
>tfw some dealers talked about bringing in Wolff spring kits, including Tokarev, but can't find any updates on that now

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>>30957439
North Sylva submitted an X95 Tavor to the RCMP for a status designation, so hopefully in a few years we'll have NR X95s in Canada. It will probably look like the version seen at the top of the pic, so make of that what you will.

Now the speculation begins.

Did the Cgn management finally grow a spine and tell marstar to fuck off, or did marstar just take their ball and go home?

>>30968238
Probably a bit of both. CGN must have told John to clean up his act, and instead of being a respectable person he just told them to close his account.

>>30968004
What's so special about the X95 compared to an original Tavor that's already on the market.

>>30959843

I spent about $400 (both tests, application fee, photo costs) and just got my full license after a ridiculous six-month wait.

>>30968655
>six months

but why

>>30967196
You can order direct from Wolff but its expensive.
Marstar has tons of milsurp parts search using google finding parts on their site is a nightmare.

>>30968238
Marstar BTFO picks nuclear option.

Any of you guys been to Firearms Outlet Canada northeast of Toronto?

>>30968663

A lot of the delay was due to the RCMP kept reporting they never got the additional info my physician mailed, and eventually started faxing, to them.

Once they did get it, my license was approved twenty minutes later and I got the card in the mail eight business days later.

>>30968798
Are you surprised? I'm surprised I can still travel to the USA after some of the shit I've posted.

>>30968742

Nice, small store.

>>30969393

Not surprised--more concerned about my personal health information floating around some overfull mailroom for the next decade or so.

>>30968415
Better trigger, AR mag release, charging handle has been moved back, recessed bolt release (although I never had an issue with the regular one), and it doesn't vent gas onto your face. The biggest fixes are the trigger and magazine release.

>>30970119
>it doesn't vent gas onto your face
Huh, I figured that a gun of Israeli design would make that a default feature.

>>30957854
Bought a 590 from Wolverine, good price, fast shipping.

>>30970205
You'd think, but the damn thing still costs three large. I figure the X95 will be around the same.

>>30970081
You get the class action notice?

>>30964303
Tok Guy please tell your coworkers to stop baiting this board with low-tier entrapment attempts.

Anyone live or lived in Grande Prairie (AB)?
Just became hasguns yesterday and trying to find a good place to shoot.

Anyone else participating in the Ward's auction?
Currently waiting for the G43s to get up.

>>30970310

Huh? Nope!

>>30971473
Gov has lost a bunch of personal info includign health records and info on anyone with a student loan.
Class action lawsuits are finally working their way through.

>>30971493

Oh I did happen to>>30971493
hear about that one. Do you know if firearms application records were also inappropriately handled?

>>30971533
No clue.
About 15 years ago it was revealed that the Hell's Angels had full access to just about every part of the program.

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Anyone have anything against the NEA CSS stock before I buy one?

Inb4 custom bolt carrier. Doesn't really bother me considering the cost of the kit.

>>30971570

That also doesn't surprise me.

>>30968689
might do that, but don't want to deal with the whole "importation of firearm parts" nonsense Americans have if I don't have to, would rather give my money to Canadian business

Marstar, TradeEx are the two who carry spare Tokarev parts, but they're out of stock for most of them for a long time now

obligatory:
>Iron Clad

>>30971771
You could try contacting corwin arms directly if they have access to parts from europe they will bring them in for you but it will probably take a while.

>>30971771
Come to think of it another other way is looking on ebay for parts in Europe there's no problem ordering small parts from most EU countries.

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>>30968004
American version has had a really retarded alteration, where they extended the butt plate to keep compliant to some OAL requirement they have while getting 16" barrel

I really hope we get 18.5" barreled option with standard length in buttstock (should be plenty to meet Canadian OAL requirements)
but it's a lot more likely we will get the American retardation with Canadian length barrel
>picrelated is American 16" versions for comparison of stock/buttplate length

>>30971870
We probably wont get the american model seeing as IWI already produces models direct for Canada.
Where as the american models are basically parts kits assembled in the US because of silly import laws requiring firearms to have a certain number of US made parts.

>>30971990
hmm, fair point, but do they also make the housing part/stock/receiver (never know what to call that on a bullpup) in the States?
because if the large main parts are made in Israel, I can't really see them tooling up for two different injection molds for the polymer stock size just for Canadian market

>>30972280
The only difference is in the rubber at the end. The Body on the x95 is just like that to maintain the same LOP as the TAR21

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So Corwin has brought in AK74-style brakes that apparently work decently enough. Was curious about the overall length however so I stuck an airshit clone on to see what it would look like with the 18 inch barrel. Thoughts?

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>>30972304
oh really? fugg, I was hoping it would maintain back proportions and thus have shorter LOP (>>30968004 body seemed shorter than >>30971870 to me)
>tfw standard slav
fuk u monkey-arm capitalists! it's ..it's stupid and overpriced anyway :'(

>>30972383
>Nope.jpg
but don't let my opinion stop you do whatever the fuck you want.

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>>30972412
Can't find a good side shot of an Israeli made x95 but from top to bottom CTAR, IWI US x95, IWI 95.
It cuts off an inch without the buttstock but the LOP should be similar to the CTAR (Or TAR21's we have here.)

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>>30972444
so kind of like this? (just in terms of back part housing, of course)
basically they have the same LOP if you have no recoil pad on x95 at all, any addition there makes it have longer LOP than TAR21

>>30972383
I don't really see a problem. Added length can be an inconvenience innawoods, but this seems fine for the range.

Anyone here have any experience w/ Alfa Proj revolvers? I'm interested in the 9mm chrome 4.5" for plinking but I'm curious about case extraction w/o moon clips also how does it fare next to an sp101 or s&w686

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Hey does anyone remember me from a couple nights ago? I finally got a scope on my rennovated SKS; a carl Zeiss 3-9x40. Cost me nothing, so I basically had a boner until I had it perfect, then took some gun porn for it.

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>>30974107
It's a preddy gud scope, I can't wait to shoot this tomorrow.

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>>30974116

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>>30974150

>>30965987
cheap ammo, cheap gun

but youre correct, if you want to actually git good at shooting and not just be one of those faggots poppin' off rounds then 10/22 --> centrefire is better than sks

>>30974107
Hey again, anon!
I gotta say, that gun is looking T H I C C with the foregrip + pistol grip + large magazine + kwikrail. But I bet it'll be fun to shoot. How's it feel in the hands? Lot heavier than a fresh-from-the-cosmoline SKS?

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>>30974217
Eh it's actually not too bad! Compared to the unmodded SKS it'd probably be around the same weight, maybe a little on the heavier side. The foregrip is such a nice addition, It'll make it so much easier to shoot. And thanks for the compliment! I picked up some more 7.62 ammo not in clips

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Anyone know a good website that sells VZ58s in 7.62 that won't fist me with shipping costs?

>>30974268
With the foregrip, doos everything seem a lot steader from a standing position?

>>30974378
It definitely does. Without the foregrip I was always kinda wavering, but now I can hold it snug and tight to me and the reticles barely move. It's pretty good man

>>30957439
anyone know how hard it is to set up a personal (((approved))) range, so I can use my AR on my own property?

>>30974428
Almost makes me want to tactify my SKS, but I'd really miss the bayonet.
>sudden impulse to buy a cheap chorinko stock and bolt a foregrip to it

>>30974599
Do you have access to a fuckton of soil/sand and a dump truck?

>>30962391
Stay the fuck away from fake suppressors. They way the law is written, even if the fake suppressor lowers the sound of the gun by one decible it is a prohibited device. I have never measured the difference with a fake suppressor, and don't know much about them, but I would assume even a fake one would make a decibel of difference.

>>30974629
yes, also lots of land in a rural area.
Just wondering about the approval process/cost for getting the range certified™

>>30974599
Very
Remember, they deliberately make it as difficult and expensive as possible in order to prevent gun ranges from being made.
At the minimum, they'd demand all sorts of shit costing probably tens of thousands of dollars to do. And if you complied, they'd most likely just keep piling more shit on until you stopped trying

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>>30974629
That's why I bought another SKS. Now I have the best of both worlds lol
The bottom one is the one I modded

>>30974659
Not trying to be an asshole, but do you know this for a fact/from experience? I agree that govt probably doesn't want more ranges, but there must be a way to make them.

Wondering about specific costs/parameters I need to fill to have a ceritified range.

>>30974677
Just forum posts and shit really. In a number of cases they deliberately kept demanding expensive changes just to eventually force ranges to close down
It'd be hard to get specifics, because it's just whatever the person who comes to inspect it arbitrarily decides you need, which is how they can keep demanding changes when you comply

>>30974672
I've actually been thinking of butchering an SKS with my milling machine and welder, but to avoid slavaboo guilt, I'd probably buy a Chinese one.

>>30974644
Can't help you much beyond having heard that it involves at least one inspection. But here's some info straight from the government to crush (or at least complicate) your hopes and dreams:

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-212/page-1.html#h-4

>>30974672
>oberto

my nigga

>>30973714
I have the .357 amazing value for the price, much better grips and way heavier than my .357 Rossi, nicer finish too. Would buy another.

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FELLOW /K/ANUCKS HALP PLS

I just shot my SKS ( 150 rounds of the corrosive stuff) and brought it home after a 2 hour drive and THIS was on my pristine bore opening on action side WHAT DO? How could it be rusting after 2 hours and how do i prevent next time? Am i Kill?

>>30975014
You aren't kill, get cleaning that right now and you'll avoid the majority of problems.

In future, if you're concerned, carry a bottle of water out to the range to flush it right away. If you mix some ballistol with the water (one part ballistol, ten parts water), it will work better (the ballistol will get into the nooks and crannies and displace the water as it dries). Then do your normal corrosive cleaning routine when you get home.

>>30975168
When i finished shooting i did pour some windex down the barrel but didnt follow up with a patch. Is this probably why? Would following up with a patch prevented it or should i pick up some ballistol for this?

>>30975014
It is fine, just clean it out. Next time wipe it with a touch of oil before transport

Story of my rusty sks
sks was left for 3 weeks without cleaning after shooting 300 rounds of corrosive last year. It was spring so lots of salty moisture in the air. Sks was fucked, even the trigger group was coated in red. Bolt was in awful shape. The only rust free surface was the barrel.

Took forever to clean, I also ended up changing the colour of my bolt carrier as I had it sitting in cola for 24hrs to help remove tough rust spots.

I never forgot to clean it again.

>>30975208
Water would be better than windex, and a patch could help- but the water part is the most important. The ballistol would definitely be better than windex, but if you can't find any, just use water.

>>30975014
>using corrosive ammo

>>30975252
>>30975274
Noted, still frustrating. I just spent 2 hours cleaning the gun thoroughly; I guess ill try to flush and patch the barrel dry prior to driving home next time...

Any recommendations to removing this rust? As always google has multiple gimicky answers...

>>30975334
I use Brillo, steel wool, and dish rags. Any solvent will work and and then any oil after. I mean any oil will work, from wd40 to used motor oil, anything will be better than nothing. Sometimes I have left my sks without having cleaning for a few hundred rounds over a couple months, no big deal at all man.

>>30975334
Once you get u get more familiar with the sks, you will be doing complete tear downs cleaning and reassembly in about 30 min or less. Don't worry about little spots like that, they are easy to deal with. Keep the gun oiled and you won't have a prob. I use seafoam deep creep and it's petty good, I just spray the fuck out all all my guns before they go into the safe.

>>30974599
Find the slam fire radio podcast where they talk to the guy from Alberta who set up his own range, he lays it out pretty well.
No idea what number the episode is

>>30975560
Any clue as to what he had to do to be in compliance or cost wise his investment?

>>30960477

> In the past seven years I've made posts on forums and boards

Motherfucker, the 2 guys at Miramichi who handle license applications rely heavily on the mail and a fax machine.

They couldn't find your forum posts if they wanted to. Don't worry about it.

>>30966248
Literally the cheapest junk mount you could imagine. A friend give it to me and I only intended to use it temporarily. But I don't think it can be beat functionally. The light is right where I want it, and if I take of the ring off it is relatively snag free.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Universal-Tactical-25-4mm-Scope-Ring-Flashlight-Mount-Mount-for-Light-/201644666937?hash=item2ef2f57039:g:0nIAAOSwHoFXrfTK

The three gun shoot went great if anyone cares.

>>30961018
Wtf are you talking about? Hnatiuks has the provincial contract for the CFSC and the CRFSC. They will contract out to instructors elsewhere but their prices have always been $50 per course totaling $100 for the two.

https://www.hmcgroup.ca/Education/CFSC/cfsc_reg_step3.asp

Anyone here bought anything from Northern Republic Magazine? Recommend them?

>>30977065
Yeah, I just did my CFSC last week and it was only $50

Forgot the name of a certain mag. Its a 20 rounder for the Remington bolt action chassis that accidentally works with a certain norinco. whats it called again?

>>30979087
>20 rounder
Weren't they actually magazines for an AR platfom chambered in .50 Beowulf?

>>30964551
>>30976751
>The three gun shoot went great if anyone cares.
neat, glad you had fun, anon
any videos of actually running the 3-gun with your VZ?
do you have it tricked out with the tacticool extended mag and bolt release to help with your times?

>>30979087
AA700 20RD mags

Has NEA posted any pics whatsoever of their AR-10?

>>30957439
Looking for a sling and optic for my t-97 lads.

Don't care what kind of sling as long as it fits. As far as an optic I would prefer a red dot, I shoot relatively close ranges (100-200 yards).

Also am poorfag

Crazy tok guy if you're reading plz halp

>>30975334
Just clean It again.

I run corrosive in mine and I usually clean it when I get home from shooting, then clean it again the next day

>>30981062
Cheapest 2 point sling
Cheapest worthwhile red dots are Bushnell TRS 25 and holosun 400 series.

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>>30980738
Yeah check out their facebook page.

>>30981062
Sling:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Original-Chinese-PLA-2-point-Type-95-97-Canadian-T97NSR-Tactical-Web-Sling-OD-/251582080157?nav=SEARCH

For an optic, I used a TRS-25 on the Canadaammo rail adapter. Sold the adapter when I got the YMA to a friend.

Any new news regarding NEA's AR 10?
>inb4 Crazy Tok Guy wants to make them prohib for one obvious reason.

>>30968004

I don't understand why it didn't get pushed through as a child FRT from the Tavor
Literally same trigger pack, pretty much same rifle except the outer shell

>>30967196

Marstar and TEC seem to be both completely sold out of almost every spare part
Maybe Numrich, but pricey shipping

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>>30979145
The extended mag release doesn't do much for me. It will let you do mag chop reloads but I'am used to reloading by using my thumb before I reach for a fresh mag. I just ordered a bolt release but it didn't make it in time for this match. you can see in the video my original bolt hold open is worn out and no longer works.
>First time making webm so pls no bully

>>30982598
Webm looks good man.
Anything would you recommend as starter kit mags and gear wise?
Also are mag fed shotguns frowned upon in 3 gun i'm personally terrible at shell loading and I doubt i'll ever be good enough to load double.

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So I'm the tacticool SKS anon; I dislocated a rib, and I can't go shooting today. :( I'm so sad.

>>30982843
>Its because you tried to suck your own dick right.
I kid, that's rough anon.

>>30982874
It's actually because I fucked up at my landscaping job, good thing /fit/ isn't here cause I went to snab ciddy
>lifting with my back
It was a little heavier than I thought it was, and I overestimated myself. Fuck this man, always lift with your legs

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>>30982811
>Anything would you recommend as starter kit mags and gear wise?

> 3 pistol mags in a belt pouch
> 6 5rd rifle mags in a chest rig
> a full side saddle and dump pouch with a half box of shells in it
In my area most guys run pretty sporty gear. Just find gear that works for you. I'd stay away from wearing lots of camo or plate carriers though. My gear is just as shown here >>30964313.

>Also are mag fed shotguns frowned upon in 3 gun
bring whatever you've got. semi autos are a HUGE advantage. That being said i shoot an 870. If your bad at shell loading there is only one way to get better.

You just really have to ask yourself if your shooting to be competitive, or shooting to improve your tactical skills.

>>30982894
>always lift with your legs
This is very good advice, but even then I've had some mishaps.

Something about using my lower body muscles puts pressure on my anus, and I end up farting as a result.

>tfw I've done this
>at work
>in front of very important guests while my boss was showing them around
>and by "boss" I don't mean just a supervisor or manager
>this was the fucking CEO
>I farted in front of the CEO and his clients
But at least I didn't ruin my spine.

>>30983091
Hey at least no injures other than a serious blow to your ego. Fuck man, I'm pretty upset though; today was range day and now all I can do is shitpost from my couch and watch CNN as America goes FEMA

>>30981462
Neat!

>>30981992
Prohib? I'd buy one if the price was decent.

>>30981505
How hard was it to mount?

Has anyone gotten their hands on the new Type 97, Tavor or SiG clones? Worth the weight?

Also, I think I've got a bit of corosion on my nugget bolt, is there any good ho'made tricks to get it off?

>>30963599
he RCMP or something?

>>30983322
>Also, I think I've got a bit of corosion on my nugget bolt, is there any good ho'made tricks to get it off?
Do literally anything you want.

It's hard to fuck up a nugget, and on the off-chance that you somehow manage to ruin it, you could always buy another nugget (or just the affected part(s)).

> 8 months and still no renewed RPAL

I don't know what to do anymore.

>>30983345
oxalic acid.

>>30983368
If you ever get prosecuted for possessing firearms without a current & valid license, just use the legal defense of "Officially Induced Error."

You made a reasonable attempt to renew your license, there is no legally-binding cut-off parameter for renewals (other than "just do it before it expires"), and I assume you've made several phone calls and maybe even a few letters/e-mails.

I would also try to get in touch with Canadian gun lobby groups such as the CSSA and CCFR. I know most Canadian gun owners don't like to be loud and obnoxious, but this is one of the few occasions where you do want to be known. Tell everyone what's happening before you get arrested and the media manipulates facts to work against you.

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>>30983073
>You just really have to ask yourself if your shooting to be competitive, or shooting to improve your tactical skills.
True I would be mostly in it for fun.

Here's what I would probably go with now.
I plan on replacing the T97 with a PDW AR i'm building. The shotgun with the same model but magfed and the pistol either keep working out the kinks or replace with a glock17/19, Steyr M9A1 or P-07/09 depending on whats cheap when I have the money.

Also 10 round LAR and 50 beo mags are they legal or are you forced to load in only 5?

>>30983563
>Also 10 round LAR and 50 beo mags are they legal or are you forced to load in only 5?
The gist of it is that they're technically legal, but the cops will give you a hard time.

What could be a fun weekend could easily turn into hours of arguing in circles until one of yous fucks offs.

I would recommend carrying a stack of paperwork proving that they're legal, just to save you some time.

>>30983602
I meant specifically for 3 gun comp but yes I always and would recommend that everyone carry a copy of special bulletin 72 with them every time they go shooting.

>>30983215
The rail adapter has four little screws. You simply slip it on over the YMA rail and screw them tight.

Wheres a good place to get a K98?

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>>30957439
Thinking of getting this to carry, how hard is 7.63 mauser to get? Inb4 illegal
Its made in 1897 rcmp can suck my left dick.

>>30983563
The cheapo tac vest is a little cringy but I've seen others with them. Otherwise you look good to go, just make sure you have good eye pro and electronic ear pro.
>>30983602
>>30983624
Every single person uses 10 round "pistol" AR mags. In the three shoots I've went to this year I've seen one other person using five round mags and that's because he was shooting a Sig 550.

>>30983689
Yeah just wanted something for mag pouches didnt care about putting in plates or quality. Ill look around for a chest rig as if find the vest overly bulky,

>>30983433
Considering getting in touch with a lobby group but more interested at protecting myself legally at this point. I have to face it, I'm already in illegal possession of firearms, 6 months lean time, and have made every attempt I could within the system as I know. I have left a complaint with the civilian review and complaint commissions as of last month, so I have planned to check up on them as well this week. Regardless, I have lost all faith in our federal government.

>>30983668
Not sure, Truth be told however you could reload.
But a buddy of mine has two, he has one attached to the stock and keeps the other one in the stock for double carry.
>>30983804
Join the club, friend. What was the tipping point for you?

>>30983804
>Considering getting in touch with a lobby group but more interested at protecting myself legally at this point.
Lobby groups can often help you with getting a lawyer.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that most of the major lobby groups even offer/provide legal services to members. Seems like a good time to join.

>>30983631
This rail adapter?

https://www.wanstallsonline.com/norinco-type-97nsr-picatinny-scope-rail.html

>>30983666
I think I saw one at wolverinesupplies for around 650

>>30983804
>Regardless, I have lost all faith in our federal government.

It took you this long?

>>30983974
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but when you hear about stupid government decisions in other countries, Canada starts sounding mighty awesome.

I do have some criticism to offer to Canada, but on the bright side, at least we're not Sweden. Or Germany. Or Australia. Or the UK.

>>30983998
Don't worry. It hasn't even been a year under the golden boy. We have plenty of time for shit to get to European extreme levels of fucked up.

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>>30957439
Huh, cool. Also my new t97. Thinking I will get a 14in barrel and birdshead grip for my mossy and use it as a sidearm.

>News update
North Sylva just announced they're bringing in more Suomi's with QC R barrels.

TNW Suomi M31 9mm, 18.75" barrel, Non-restricted - MSRP$834.50.
Quick-change 12.4" barrel - MSRP$109.76.
5/31rd stick mag - MSRP$64.28.
5/71rd drum mag - MSRP$134.98.

>>30984152
>Dat original upper
My nigga.

>>30984102
I genuinely wonder how long it'll take for the country to be tired of Trudeau.

Unlike the US, we don't have term limits, so in theory, we could have Trudeau as our Prime Minister for more than a decade.

On the bright side, Canada always seems to flip-flop between Liberal and Conservative, so we might as well get our Liberal phase over with now.

So a T97 with a FTU needs ironsights?

>>30984258
Honeymoon is already over.
Enough people lose their jobs, and maybe a successful terrorist attack and not even the state owned media can save him.

>>30984272
Yes, the FTU does not have built in irons.

Can anybody tell me the overall length of the T97 from tip of barrel to back of buttstock please? Also, if anybody has a standard Vz58/858 can tell me the overall length too. Thanks.

>>30984453
T97 is something like 30-32" OAL ill measure in a few mins.

>>30983830
>>30983974

Tipping point happened many years ago. Just ever last thread is falling apart this year.

>>30983883
Will look into CSSA tomorrow.

>>30984453
>>30984499
29-3/4"

>>30984542
That is with the STD flash hider btw.

>>30984563
>>30984542

Ty

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>>30984152
Are you me?

>>30984531
>Will look into CSSA tomorrow.
If I were you, I would try to join more than one. Never hurts to have backup.

>>30984654
this meme sucks

If I get a FTU T97, should I git gud with iron sights or just go straight to red dots?

>>30985275
You should try to git gud with iron sights, no matter the firearm.

It's always good to have a contingency plan in case of unavailable/faulty equipment.

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>>30983563
I'm going to sound like an asshole, but this is a genuine interest question: if one of the main benefits of the FTU on a T97 is lower rail for lower optic, what is the point of putting the AR riser on that red dot???
ballparking the height, it looks the same as if you had standard upper and mounted the dot on the rail adapter without the riser

>>30983950
This one. But there are other options if you prefer.
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/type-97-sight-rail/

>>30985526
I'm a lefty putting my face that low to the ejection port is uncomfortable.
Its the same as AR 1/3 cowitnesses with backup irons so its not as high as it looks.

>>30985526
>>30985869
As for why I have the FTU I bought it used like that for the same price as the regular T97's were a few years ago

>>30985869
>>30985890
kewl, was just curious

also, doesn't seem like you NEED to buld an AR, unless you are already doing it anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuj1lj5KANI
dude here seems to do a pretty fast reload, and I can't find it now, but I remember guy doing 3-gun where the reloads on standard T97 were blazing fast

>I don't have one myself, but the trick seems to be using the dominant hand to reload, basically do it the comblock way instead of trying to give it the ol' reacharound

>>30983368

I was wondering what happened to you.

Shit man. You talk to a lawyer yet?

>>30986143
The T97 reload is actually easier when your holding left its weird.
I've got a new lower on the way so i was looking to make a 7.5 or 10.5 PDW anyway.

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>>30984654
>>30984216
Did someone say standard upper?

>>30985538
Since you already used it successfully I'll stick with what you got

Thanks for the help

>>30986365
What can I say?
I got a thing for carry handles

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>>30986418
I hope you enjoy it, Anon.

>>30986365
Do you know anything about they Chinese proprietary mounting system? Or am I stuck putting a rail on it?

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>>30984654
No, less gay. Sorry, no offence intended.
>>30957520
Intrusting fact, I was doing photo filters wayyy before it was popular. So fuck all you. (Thanks for showing me prisma though. It's easier.)

>>30986365

Do you have a cheek riser? Is it comfortable to shoot? If you had the choice, would you get the FTU or are the BF2 feelings too strong?

>>30987017
No offense taken.

No one's more gay than me

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>>30963837
Great minds think alike/fools seldom differ :^)

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>>30986609
Unless you find a YMA, you want an adapter. The Chinese have a line of optics with the same mount, from a "totally not an ACOG" to red dots and fuckhuge night sights, but they refuse to export them. Thankfully, the rail/TRS combo I used to use is actually very comfy.
>>30987387
I will buy a second T97 to FTU down the road, but it was enough of a pain to find this optic that I'm keeping the first one stock. Remember, the FTU requires you to cut the gun down, it isn't reversible.

For shooting it, I lean in all Operator-like. As you can see, I'm a tall guy, and there's no real way to increase the LOP.

>>30987810
Jesus fuck, what the hell is going on with that room?

>visible ducting
>what appears to be an uncovered shower stall right next to the washer/dryer

>>30987893
Laundry/bathroom. The duct is for the dryer, because fuck enclosing it.

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>>30984258
this >>30984310
Globe and Mail is shitting on him for being an empty suit, incapable of anything other than making appearances pretty much on daily basis now
>source: google "globe and mail trudeau"

>>30987810
Neat, got a link for it? Iv got a weird habit of buying accessories before I buy my guns. Thank god I'm not an AR guy.

>>30975772
No, I'd have to go back and re listen to the episode. He had a good hill for a backstop and some other stuff laying around already I think. A guy on cgn made his own range by digging a sloping channel type of thing into his farm yard and put a backstop at the end. Got approved by the cfo

>>30988418
>our prime minister is bad because a newspaper said so
Now, I'm not a big fan of Trudeau, but it didn't take a newspaper to convince me.

What exactly is the significance of the Globe and Mail not liking him? Did they used to like him before? Are they usually biased towards liberals but with Trudeau as the exception?

>>30988457
The Globe and Mail is one of the most leftwing papers short of any underground communist press we have.

>>30988420
The adapter? See
>>30985538
Or just flex your Google muscle. The YMA?
>Pffffffft, hahahahaha, good luck

>>30988547
Yes the optic. Or at least some info or something so I know what Im looking for.
I dont know much about Chinese gear past the 80s.

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>>30988743
The optic is a YMA-95 "White-Light Sight". It uses a proprietary mount only seen on QBZ-pattern rifles, and is like a tiny Chinese SVD optic. It holds zero when removed, and the mount is a quick-release type (the rotating lever on the side), and it features a low-light toggle switch at the front of the base which basically just toggles a soft green LED overlay over the reticle. It comes in the leather case pictured, which is VERY high quality, and the certificate and booklet. It's an auto-focusing 3X optic. Apparently, the PLA wanted this kind of mount and carry case because of their doctrine regarding how a Designated Marksman operates. Unlike the west, the Marksman would keep his optic in the case, only pulling it out when required. Or so I've heard.

The biggest problem is simply finding one. Very, very few came in around 2010 with the first batch of T97s, and only through one (now defunct) importer. Estimates peg it somewhere around 20 of these things making it in, and the Chinese have said that no more will be sold, due to cost of export or some crap. I can't point you where to find one, because they don't ever pop up for sale, and few info at all exists online. I got lucky, someone came to me and offered it. All you can do is prowl the EE and wait, I suppose.

>>30988992
Ohh fascinating. Its the ultimate Type-97 accessory. How much did you pay for yours?

>>30989094
I paid $750, but I suspect I underpaid, simply due to its rarity. I could EASILY demand $1k or more and get it. Every Type 97 owner who isn't rocking the FTU wants one. It's the only way to "properly" mount an optic, and it rapidly pops on and off if you feel like using irons.

I intend to do a video review of it, if I can get my hands on a decent recorder.

>>30989169
I almost wish we could manufacture a fakey to out chink the chinks. Get an outfit in eastern Europe or something.

Just bought an RC k98 with dirtybirds/swastikas intact. did i do good?

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>>30988457
what? you colossal autist, I never said the newspapers are the reason to think anything.
on the contrary, the leftist media was enamored with him. the fact that even they are becoming tired of his endless PR campaign and 0 actual governance is a good example of how he's losing support, even from those traditionally expected to back him

Guys, stupid question but I'm new here. I've been looking at buying myself a gun once I get my PAL, what's a nice reliable rifle. I wouldn't mind spending a bit of money if it means I'm going to get a quality firearm. Thanks!

>>30989694
Depends, what kind of rifle are you looking for?

>>30989762
Mostly just a range/bush toy, self defence (maybe, I live in a nice neighborhood) rifle. Preferably with cheap ammo.

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>in college
>need to show 2 pieces of ID
>driver's license and rpal in wallet
>show driver's license
>sweat profusely
>"Uumm... I'll bring another piece of ID tomorrow"

>>30989899
sks, vz 58, norinco m305 are viable options.
With the m305 you can technically legally fire off 10 and 20 round mags.
>not before Crazy Tok Guy stops and possibly arrests you.

>>30989899
Well the sks is a good starter rifle from 2-3 hundred. But the Type 97 is a good bullpup for 900 and then there is the VZ 58, Id add the Type-81 but they haven't been cleared for import just yet so I cant say anything about it.
There are ARs but typically expensive and I don't know much about them.

>>30990223
Type 97 is a terrible rifle...and i like norinco in general...
>finicky with most magazines, alot dont even fit in the mag well
>potential problems with bullets jamming on feed ramp or upper chamber.

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>>30984310
110 000 people have lost their jobs so far and that fucking idiot is going on vacation and the media and everyone just cares about him with his shirt off on said vacation.

>>30990432
To be fair his dad didnt care for the unemployed. His dad flipped them off one time when he was taking the train.

>TFW one of the 110 000

>>30990432
Don't forget that we apparently need more immigrants to fill jobs at the same time somehow

>>30989914
fucking why?

are you gay?

I do it all the time, my licence is getting renewed and at least i don't look like a serial killer on my rpal

Guys,

First time buying a gun. What do I do when I first get it? Break it down, clean, and oil it?

>>30990088

So the R700 20 round mag works in the 305? It's actually 20 rounds?

>>30989169
Reverse engineering it would be a cool project.

858 223
858 7.62
T97 FTU

Which Wan?