US carriers in a war with China be like

China would absolutely annihilate the US

>>30956006
Not pictured 60 F-35C with B61 atomic weapons en route to China.

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>>30956016
>B61 atomic weapons
>Free fall nuclear bombs
>2016

>>30956006
Waiter?

Yes, this pasta is old and stale! Send it back immediately!

>>30956006

>A war with china
Things that will not happen.

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>>30956006
20 minutes later china be like

>>30956080
Looks like LA's future to me

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>>30956006

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>>30956006
didn't know China had Essex class carriers in service

>>30956082
I'm fine with that

>start war with US
>starve to death

I fucking wish a ricenigger would

>>30956142
>US Carriers in a war with China be like

Burger americucks confirmed for illiterate morons

Actually a war with China would be like this:
>http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf

>>30956132
>NVA
>ak-74

god dammit this triggers me

>>30956870

>>30956132

This /K/rime is considered especially heinous.

>>30956006

Carriers would actually be the safest post to have in the event of a war. Every carrier is heavily, heavily defended and mobile so the enemy has to do a lot of work just to figure out where it is.

Guys at land-based air bases would actually be in far greater danger because they would have missiles headed their way almost instantly and they don't even have the benefit of having several destroyers nearby to shoot down the missiles.

>>30956015
i think you mean >absorutery annihirate

>>30956082
ok? just try to get san fran too please...

The main objective of a carrier group is the protection of the lines of communication.

Will the mods actually mod this fuckin board. How many troll threads arw on the first page and you summerfags are too stupid to spot a troll thread.

>>30956816
>This research was sponsored by the Office of the Undersecretary of the Army and conducted within the R AND Arroyo Center’s Strategy, Doctrine, and Resources Program. R AND Arroyo Center, part of the RAND Corporation, is a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the United States Army.

And into the trash it goes.

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If China somehow takes out a carrier, pic related is the last thing chinks see

>>30957058
of the USA

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>this thread

A war with China would mean that the USA would be outmatched the first part of the war because the forces in the Pacific right now aren't that powerful.

After the first hot phase we would already move into political negotiations.

>>30957031
Never.

We've had some faggot that spams porn all day every day this week and nothings been done, why would shitposting and baiting be taken care of?

>>30956082
Some Mexicans and liberals for a couple million Chinese sounds good to me.

>>30957058
The last thing China wants is to get in a nuclear war with the US. It would lose and lose badly.

>>30956999
Trips.

Don't carriers have that metal storm gun for detonating incoming missiles?
Million rounds a minute, cool shit.

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>>30957094
That's what we did the last time we were at war with an Asian country with tons of manpower and a hefty Pacific presence, right?

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1995729/fatal-crash-chinese-j-15-carrier-jet-puts-question-mark

RIP .50 cent pilot

>>30957141
There is no end game worth fighting for.

Japan was conquer SEA to get the important resources to play war in China.

There is no end game for any side in a war.

>>30957094
The thing is US submarines would be able to kill with impunity. China might be able to sink a carrier with massed ASM's but they have no ASW capability to fight an advanced submarine fleet.

>>30957135
Is this bait?

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>>30957321
This whole thread is b8 /k/ommrade

>>30957062
uhh
do you have any idea of the difference between the nuke arsenals of china and the US?
The chinese could take out a few cities
We can turn most of china into a vulcanized glass parking lot

>>30956999
How can you tell?

>>30957159
Oh wow one pilot died after 6 years?

>>30956015
No they wouldn't Chinese generals even say that they couldn't beat the US in a conventional war. Numbers run out superior tactics and extreme industrialism doesn't we would have the technology and the tactics to fuck China in the ass.

>>30957871
On top of this where the fuck will China get money to fight the war? Do they think we will keep paying them when we go to war?

>>30957909
>Where will communists get money to fight a war with?

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>>30957540
>all dat population density
>all dem flimsy tofu-dreg buildings
oh baby.

>>30958047
>China
>Communist

You're cute but, regardless, even if they were communist, you still have abide by basic economics you drooling retard.

>china at war with ameriniggerka
>first shots fired
>20 million chinese surrender 5 minutes later
>next day after a celebratory media shitstorm, 70 million more come to surrender
>then come 100 million more
>they are moved all across europe and asia
>millions upon millions come by boats to the us mainland to surrender
>each and every chinaman wants to go to the us after surrendering
>there is more than 150 million of chinese in ameriniggerca
>only a few skirmishes with the actual chinese army played out
>Chinks attack in full force
>the chinsk that fled the oppressive gomunizm to freedom now are armed to defend themselves against gommunizm and shit, freedom yeeah
>they were trollin
>nothingu personerruh amerikuhh

They can swarm anywhere without guns or an army and democratically vote to do what ever they want

>>30956006
>>30956015
>>30956082
>>30956802
>>30957062

china isn't even trying anymore holy shit

>>30958416
what did he mean by this

>>30956006
How many bowls of rice are they paying you for this?

>>30956080
I've actually been there before. The place is called Meteor Crater and they have tours that take you around the rim. It's pretty neat if you like that kind of stuff.

>>30958437
I don't think even he knows...

>>30957333
What is this from?

>>30956006
> posting a picture of a ship that had to be sunk with precisely placed charges because it failed to sink when hit by a missile

>>30958437
>>30958630
Its hard to explain but try to imagine if an army and a nation whos army is it, in just a few days managed to get 150 million prisoners among which are civilians.

Or imagine there is no war, but talks of war with china.
Now imagine 150 million chinese 'running away' from communism to USA asking protection, asking you to help them, asking for a permit to stay.
Or they dont even have to come suddenly, fuck, they can be sponsored to seep into USA family by family, they pay taxes, they work, they open their businesses...
then you get 150 million chinese, secret services rustling up niggers and others, those 150 million establishing their roots, building foundations and turning everything around them into China.
You can fight them, but they can fight too, they managed to buy cheap weapons, since the law allows it, or they dont even have to.
They can make their own cheap shitty ak's and shit, swarm the usa from the inside and you dont even get to sail over the ocean to fight the real chinese from china. They just walk in and force you to work in a plastic toy factory or something
Why should they fight a war when they can take over without a war

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>>30958437
I think he's saying we should stop the boats.

>>30958718
exactly Yes. Maybe

>>30958709
You mean, what the Mexican government is deliberately doing right now.

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>>30956006

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someone post the pic with the carries and the eagle and anon going mad

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>>30958709
>immigration ban placed on china
>your absolutely retarded idea dies in step 1
Almost made me give a fuck.

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>>30956006
is that a fucking ramp?

>>30959186
>0:21
>that guy who almost got hit by the wing runs after the plane as soon as its stopped.

In my imagination he punches the pilot in the mouth before he's even really returned to reality from the wave of relief that comes when you can finally relax form something super stressful.

>>30956006
Idky americunts think this. It's total bullshit.
Until you go to China... and see it's economic standing, and how the government moves money and law around.
you are all so fucking stupid.

>>30958675
/k/, the anime, we kickstarted it last summer, where were you?

>>30958709
This. And at least 25% of your own population being leftarded claiming "you can't do that <insert solution here> to them!".

You'd be fighting them, and part of yourselves, which is exactly what would happen in Australia where I am. This is exactly what these scumbags know and want.

Inb4 fuckoff to /pol/. This is a real strategy of war.

>>30956082

I am 100% okay with this.

>>30956006
China dont even have their own carriers kid.

>>30956006
Good thing a war between China and the United States is unlikely. The world economy would die.

>>30956802
He was making a joke you moron

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>>30959186
I got you

>>30956006
ok

>>30956006
You mean scuttled after 25 years of service to make an artificial reef?

>>30956969
Writing /k/ with a capital K is most heinous

>>30956006
ok

>>30961364
>Good thing a war between the German Empire and Britain is unlikely. The world economy would die.

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>>30963685
This... This post is beautiful.

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>>30963685

>>30963685
Based you-know-who

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>>30966101
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named

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>>30966131
The Fat Greek of Ill Omen

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>>30966212
the aeronautical homosexual of foul repute

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>>30956999
You don't think the ruskies and chinks have subs keeping tabs on our carrier groups?

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>>30966131
>>30966212
>>30966226
>>30966232

fucking bastards

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>>30966308
Without threads our only options are to meme at you on irc, twitter, or on here m8

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>>30956006

Get off our internet you commie rat.

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>>30966308

>>30956258
>ricenigger
Fucking kek

>>30958675
patlabor I think

>>30967167
N E W
E
W

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>>30966297

>You don't think the ruskies and chinks have subs keeping tabs on our carrier groups?

I'm sure they try.

But that's considerably harder than you'd think. A normal airbase is completely stationary, so you could pre-position Iskander missiles to hit them in the event of a war. Hitting a moving target such as an aircraft carrier is considerably more difficult.

>>30957048

I like it when someone tries to troll and accidentally reveals actual ignorance.

>>30958709
>>30960879

Wow you guys are retarded. This is exactly what's BEEN happening. The thing is, most of these people end up more American than Chinese. You do know what country has been winning this sort of culture war for a few generations now, right?

>>30958839
Exactly. And thank goodness, because a lot of these 'Mexicans' (whose kids don't even speak Spanish, lol) have more American values than libtard Americans.

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>>30956132
>mfw the Type 81 rifles from Norinco will be here in a month.

Its gonna be cash.

>anti-carrier shitposting

Time for some copypasta from my reserves:

The easiest way, by far, to nail a CVBG isn't through SIGINT or ELINT methods... it's to hit it while it's in port or steaming along known shipping lines; i.e., good old-fashioned HUMINT.
What you don't realize is that first, a CVBG can run completely 'silent' (e.g. no radar or comms EM emissions) for its entire 6-month deployment cruise, simply listening to other sensors in the US global defense grid. USN CV doctrine and training ops have evolved to the point where a CVBG can steam up to an opposing coastline and run deep penetration strikes without making a single radio transmission for the last 1000 nm of the journey... between all those dozens of helos and planes and 6-10 combat and support vessels.
In that case, UAVs have to use visual methods to find the CVBG. This limits their scan range to about 6nm in either direction, assuming they're flying at sea level in normal sea states. Of course, if they were flying at a super high altitude, they would have a much larger search radius, but they would also be much easier to find by the ELINT suite on E-2D AWACS and/or the carrier's own CAP.
Now, even if the UAVs are sent out--e.g., China/Russia knows there's a CVBG in the area--then there are also a variety of ways to spoof 'em.
For example: the CVBG finds a large civilian radar signature, like an oil tanker or cargo ship or passenger liner, and when the air wing takes off, it first vectors out to that radar signature at wavetop height (below the minimum detection altitude of OTH radars) before climbing to standard cruising altitude, and when they're done bombing or performing air superiority missions, they fly back to that big ship and then vector at low altitude to the CVN.

>>30970449
Sure, this cuts down on the range of the aircraft, but what it does is it makes that civilian ship look like an aircraft carrier to the opponent--it'll look like a big radar signature launching and landing aircraft. It's basically baiting the opponent into killing a bunch of civilians, or at the very least wasting a sub or UAV to go and check it out--a sub or UAV that can then be easily killed itself as it wades into a preplanned trap.
Another example: the CVBG baits the opponent into searching the wrong area of ocean based on the path of its incoming and outgoing flight vectors. Basically, you do aerial buddy-refueling of a few fighters, run them in and out along a triangular path that, by the listed range on their fuel tanks, implies the carrier is hundreds of nm away from its actual location.
Yet another example: say the CVBG has been found by a UAV, and the UAV gets detected and shot down. Now the Chinese/Russian side has a snapshot of the CVBG location--not a real-time track, so they'll need to sortie out a regiment of land-based strike aircraft (likely J-20s, Su-34s, or Tu-22M3s) to the last known location of the CVBG. This usually takes about two hours, assuming the CVBG is operating three or four hundred nm away from the coast and five or six hundred nm away from the nearest airbase. So then in those two hours, the CVBG can run a pair of DDGs 60nm down the threat axis (e.g. towards the airbase) as a picket, leave a CG and a DDG at its original location, set up a combat air patrol flanking the expected flight vector of the J-20 regiment, and sail another 60nm with a lone DDG escort in an off-axis direction. (e.g. diagonally away from the airbase)

>>30970470
Then, when the J-20 regiment arrives and pops up 150nm away for a radar peek to launch their YJ-12 anti-ship missiles, the picketing DDGs can spam the area with SAMs from the front at the same time the air patrol swarms the J-20s from behind--as close to a turkey shoot as modern air combat allows--and the anti-ship missiles, set to go and sink a big ship in the target area, lock on to a CG boasting 128 VLS tubes loaded with anti-missile-missiles. In effect, the entire J-20 regiment is wasted and the CVN is never even threatened. And the best thing about it is that the USN trains to run this entire maneuver in radio silence--which means the opponent has no idea it's coming. And, yes, if US ELINT/SIGINT (satellites) or HUMINT (spies/cyber) detect that those planes aren't taking off for whatever reason, the CVBG can cancel its maneuver or reorient itself if the planes are vectoring out from an unexpected airbase.
Of course, these tactics themselves can all be counteracted by good training and coordination between the PLAAF, PLAN, and 2nd Artillery, and better ELINT/SIGINT capabilities. It's not a one-sided affair at all, and yes, the DF-21D and J-20 have made things harder for the USN in very uncomfortable ways--but those weapons are by no means the game-changers and magic bullets proponents would like to believe.

>>30959390
What is this post even trying to say


Did an angry chinaman type this out?

>>30966297
you don't think we know of them and are counter-surveilling?

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>>30956006

>>30966297
and you don't think we've got havok mines attached to the bottom of their subs already? as soon as they go loud, boom.

All the kursk was, was someone fucked up during the mine placement.

>>30956024
>2016
>caring about which parts of china get glassed

>>30956006
Good thing that the trusty ol' battleship will wreck their navy and coastal infrastructure.

Daily reminder

Battleships>Aircrap Carriers.

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>>30956006
Unmanned and being deliberately sunk to form a new reef and a home for marine life....?

Deaths of 3000-something people would trigger nuclear response.

Their artificial islands would turn in to nuclear waste in less than 20 minutes after the carrier is hit.

Then US would most likely spend majority of their tactical cruise missile arsenal to go after Chinese industry, depots and storages inside China.

Chinese ports would would under cruise missiles strikes as well.
Subs would mine the shit out of their coastal areas.

>>30956015
>China would absolutely annihilate the US
The US could cripple China permanently with just 2 words
"We're defaulting"

>>30971094
t. 12 year old child who doesn't know that there are ways to borrow money besides getting a loan

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>>30970470
>>30970479
Carriers fags BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-9zITGlr0

>>30971136
You do realize the first thing to go offline will be their sattelites, right?

US turned SM-3 in to anti-sat weapon with a software patch.

>>30971077
>Americans actually believe this

>>30971094

By "cripple China," I assume you mean "cripple China along with the rest of the global economy."

>>30956006
So thats after the chinese sneak aboard, strip it, cut holes in it, set demo charges, the shoot it from the outside.

>So much for our carrier fleet. :(

>>30956082
If the Chinese don't we should.

>Whoops targeting mistake!

Or better yet. False flag north korea then glass them too.

>>30957031
Embrace the troll. Theres isnt that much else to do on summer /k/!

>>30972517

Oh please. It's no different than any other international dispute where the US freezes/Seizes all Chinese assets in their control. China would of course retaliate but it's pretty safe to say that they have more invested in the US than the US has invested in China.

Regardless neither side would ever let it come to that. It's economic "MAD" with the US and China. Nobody in the US gave a shit about the USSR's economy or the economies of any of their allies during the cold war. Now though China and the US have a tightly connected economic link that neither side will be willing to risk.

But if it comes down to that yes, the rest of the global economy will be trashed. Welcome to the party pals.

>>30958416
Or the just vote in a democratic government. Go full capitalist and crush america economically.

>>30965913
It did. Almost twice. Thank god for America. We stopped it the second time.