are sawed-off shotguns the sexiest guns?

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NO.

>>30943935
>>30943966
come on! it's like they were specially made to be shooted from a motorcycle at a high speed chase

>>30943988
They just aren't OP. They barely even work anyways.

>>30943928
I always liked the look of metal and wood. sawed offs are usually sawed off to be more compact and not snag on things usually gotta nice shape to em

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>>30943935
First post best post

I think I have that exact same shotgun

>>30943928
No, but they're close to the most illegal

I keep having to talk my dad down from buying a cheap beater 12 gauge to chop down.
Too many movies, not enough real world gun laws experience.

>>30944117
I don't care. I still want these guns.

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>>30943928
>Blued steel
Check.

>Wood
Check.

>Practicality.
Not in the slightest.

>Aesthetic
Debateable.

Pic related is a certifiably sexy gun.

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>>30944405
Hi power thread? Hi power thread.

They shouldn't be Class III. It was a dumb law when it was passed. They have tons of legitimate uses like self defense and wildlife protection. They looked scary because a couple gangsters used the. Horrible law.

>>30943988

>shooted

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>>30943994
>barely work

Wot mate? Sure once done the accuracy is shit but that's nothe really the point of them is it?

Also sorry OP but that title goes to winchester lever actions. Idgaf which they all are sexy

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>>30943928
No. Pic related.

they are like big pistols that can smash your head with one shot

>>30943928

How effective is a sawed-off shotgun, anyway?

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I can't help but like them, despite the fact that they're pieces of crap in real life.

>>30944405
>blued steel
>sexy
go die already you wrinkly old fuck

>>30943928
Only if your jewish.

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>>30946646
This.

I bought an Outlaw with an overall length of 29 inches, which is somehow a non restricted weapon in Canada.

This has an awful kick, the casing jam in the chamber after shooting because of expansion and I have to break it over my knee to extract them, the forestock falls off every now and then when you fire it, fucking garbage production quality.

The only reason I bought it was because it was 180$, and I would probably sell it for cost, but every time I look at it, I remember how fucking cool it looks.

>>30946643
With modern shotguns, the benefits gained from sawing them down are minimal. It doesn't effect the spread very much, and the ease of concealment isn't much help to anybody who isn't up to no good, barring a few exceptions. And of course, it becomes difficult to aim without a stock.

Basically, there's the cool factor from movies and games like Doom, and that's it. But you know what, this is America goddamnit. "Because I can" is reason enough for me. You want to get yourself a sawed-off, go right the fuck ahead.

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>>30943928
No

>>30944168

Well that's a shame. I was just thinking of how something like OP posted would make one helluva CC piece.

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>>30946675
I have a desire to get one custom made some day by one of those high quality manufacturers, with automatic shell ejection, variable chokes, and even a bit of engraving. And I will freely admit that I only want to do so because of Doom.

>>30946657
Kys my man

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>>30946695
That's kinda why they're so heavily regulated. For the longest time, they were the sole purview of mob hitmen and street crooks, who preferred them for that very reason.

On a somewhat related note. As I was typing this, I was reminded of the whack ass sawed-off shotgun from Killing Them Softly. Now I'm curious what would happen if somebody tried to fire this monstrosity.

>>30946747

>criminals being criminal
>punish everyone else for it

I must reiterate how much I hate people.

>>30946760
To be fair, not many other people were using them other than criminals. Probably because any self respecting gun enthusiast knows that they aren't very practical or effective.

>>30946786

Why's that? The spread? The lack of barrel length taking too much power out of it? Figured that at close range, it wouldn't make a huge difference.

>>30946675
Nigga, just spend a night with some steel wool, a drill and a dremel.

>>30946831
I already dremeled out the chambers once, how many times do you want me to compromise its integrity?

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>>30946675
>I bought a shit quality gun
>therefore all guns of this type are shit quality

>>30946786
>Probably because any self respecting gun enthusiast knows that they aren't very practical or effective.
Um, they are still significantly more effective at putting someone down than a regular handgun. They were also used by truckers (one of the main groups Ithaca marketed their Auto Burglar series to).

>>30946828
There's actually no difference in spread given a comparable choke and shotguns barely lose velocity from shorter barrels until you go under 10"-12".

>>30946854
Huh, that's weird, normally polishing fixes sticky chambers at least. Have you tried using shorter shells?

>>30946828
The fact that the lack of a stock makes aiming and recoil management difficult?

And if you have one where only the barrels are cut down, then it becomes harder to conceal, which for many is the point of a sawed-off in the first place.

>>30946907
>>30946907
I just use the cheap shells from the COOP, so I haven't really experiemented with high/low brass.

I also have so low power 2.5" shells for my Old English Shotgun I was going to try in there since it is a 3" chamber.

Come to think of it, I should compare the brass size on the 2&3/4", 3", and slugs I sent through there. They all stuck though.

>>30946924
I read that as
>And if you have one where one barrel are cut down
And was losing my mind as to why anybody would only cut one barrel, and not the other.

>>30946890
>Um, they are still significantly more effective at putting someone down than a regular handgun

I was speaking relative to unmodified shotguns. Probably should've clarified.

I would probably take a sawed-off over a handgun, but then, I would take ANYTHING over a handgun, unless we're talking about EDC weapons.

I'm not saying I don't like them, don't get me wrong. I just recognize their limitations.

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So sawed off shotguns are pretty heavily regulated.

Is there anything preventing someone from manufacturing some kind of pistol that uses shotguns shells in the first place?

What's the status of sawed off other shit?

I wanted a kind of sawed off lever action after seeing this for a while.

>>30946948
Look up a Mare's Leg

>>30946924
>then it becomes harder to conceal
It's still easier to maneuver indoors you fucktard. Same reason why people who clear buildings regularly opt for SBRs.

>>30946947
>I was speaking relative to unmodified shotguns
No one is going to opt for a shotgun with no stock when one with a stock could be used in the same roll just like no one will opt for a pistol when they can use a long gun. The problem is that there are times when lighter/more concealable guns are necessary, and if I was in an area where carjackings or armed robberies were common I would favor something as close to the effectiveness of a long gun while still being easily maneuverable in a vehicle/easily off body carried in a bag, which short barrel shotguns with no stock excel at.

>>30946948
The rules are, as I remember them

>if it has rifling and below .50 caliber it is considered a pistol
>if it was manufactured with a vertical foregrip, pistol grip and you never ever put a stock on it it is an AOW with a $5 tax stamp

Marelegs are the same as any other 'pistol' like the AR or AK ones

>>30946985
damn I had no idea

thanks

>>30944819
Looks like chromed plastic

>>30947000
>>if it was manufactured with a vertical foregrip, pistol grip and you never ever put a stock on it it is an AOW with a $5 tax stamp
Only if it's under 26" OAL.

>>30944168
if your dad really wanted it he could pay the goddamn tax stamp, you know.

>>30947020
Right, thought that was a given regarding the thread so forgot about it. Also if you demill per ATF specifications and re weld you can classify any shotgun as an AOW given you technically manufactured it. Waste of time in my opinion other than to prove a point but also possible if you have more time and equipment than sense.

>>30947057
>Right, thought that was a given regarding the thread so forgot about it.
Still deserves mention as there are guns (other than AR pistols) that hit 26" OAL with sub 16" barrels.

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Nah, OP. This is what sexy looks like.

>>30947022
>paying the ATF for your rights back.

Good goyim.

>>30947162
I would saw my left nut off for that .45 firearm.

>>30944117
VSS... one hell of a shotgun

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>>30947295
How about this 9mm firearm?

>>30947304
>bolt handle in the stock
>no straight line from bolt to muzzle
what the fuck
how does that even work?

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>>30947468
>bolt handle in the stock
It's bullpup.

>no straight line from bolt to muzzle
Barrel is on the bottom.

>>30946924

Point. But it's not like quick follow-up shots are a concern with a break-action shotgun anyway.

>>30943928
I just dont understand their POU. redpill me anyone?

>>30944689
time for bed, matlock

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>>30947304
who is this semen demon?

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Super Shorty.

>>30948287

POU?

>>30948403
>what is reverse image search

SDK. Gestapo gun.

http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/SDK_silenced_rifle

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>>30948403
Just realized I had randomized file names turned on, it's a German SDK carbine from WWII.

>>30946675
You realize the $185 price tag was for a batch that had some defects? They normally cost closer to $300. I've shot one that wasn't a piece of shit and it works great. You're just a dumbass.

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I did it. I bought the kit.

>>30944819
Would shoot vortigaunts with

>>30949241
Sexy.

>>30944168
>No, but they're close to the most illegal
Easiest to make illegal out of ignorance maybe buuut
>no FA
>no AP
>no suppressor
>no DD

Slap all that shit together sans tax stamps and it's hyper illegal, though FA and DD kinda trump the rest

Traditional shotguns are more aesthetically pleasing, no question

But when I look at a full-length Mossberg 590, I see one of the most beautifully effective close-range combat weapon ever designed. Practically indestructible, stone-cold reliable, ridiculously versatile, silly simple design and great firepower. Centuries of firearm development have lead to this kind of excellence, and it is a beautiful sight to behold.

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>>30946657

>>30946890
>I bought a shit quality gun
>therefore all guns of this type are shit quality

He didn't imply that anywhere in his post

>>30948680
What about any of that made him a dumbass? He didn't complain about the price or condemn the brand, he just acknowledged it's a fun POS.

>>30946747
kek classic

>>30947468
Nazi space magic.

>>30948451
but thats a Springfield 67H

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>>30944117
There's nothing remotely attractive about either of those guns. Posting real sexiest.

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>>30944405
>>30944410
Seconding these motherfuckers

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>>30951015

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I like them. Just added a bead to this but dont have an updated pic

>>30948287

It's a hand cannon. Small enough to conceal and be used in confined spaces, got more punch than a pistol. Pretty simple.

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>>30952355
Winchester #3 Buckshot 2-3/4" 20Ga from 5 yards. This thing has some nasty spread.

>>30948287
I use mine just for dicking around and shooting when I just want to turn money into noise and recoil
>>30952355
>>30952396

>>30948287
CQC application, clearing rooms, masterkey.

>>30943988
>I just completed GTA IV with the bikers

pros:
-looks metal as fuck
-short and light (for a shotgun)
-high firepower (for that size)

neutrals:
-wide spread

cons:
-high recoil, especially when using it with just one hand
-obviously, is not accurate at all (but it is meant to be used at short range or in closed spaces)
-require a lot of maintenance when fired often

>>30952846
Recoil is very manageable for the most part. Grab the grip and for end and "stretch" the gun. The only issue is it causes a bit of shift towards the side.

>>30949927
Fully automatic, armor piercing, and big tiddies?

>>30943928
>Ruining a perfectly good scattergun to cater to your nigger fantasies
>Considering fun mutilation "sexy"

>>30953329
DD is destructive device, which is another arbitrary as fuck term for shotguns with no sporting purpose due to that over .50" bore diameter bullshit

>>30946747
>Now it's illegal so they can't do it anymore!

Fucking retard...

>>30949241
That's sexy, but what's the kit?

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>>30943935
>>30943966
severe lack of arguments here

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>>30953859

There's a kit that allows a body to take a standard Mossberg 500 Cruiser and turn it into an AOW with a birdshead grip and a 14.5" barrel. They're neat, if you're into hating your wrists and love keeping around cut down shotties for close encounters.

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Sawed off's were fairly popular before NFA 1934. A little handy .410 would have been used by campers or to keep pests out of the garden.
The Ithaca was bought by cops and regular folks as car guns and for home defense.
Sadly, given how info traveled in those days, a lot of people didn' tknow what they had was illegal until it was too late to paper them and now they're contraband.
They still turn up now and then when someone dies and the family is going through their stuff.

>>30943928
Sawed off grenade launchers are better.

Like those m79s cut down by MACVSOG

>>30953713
Wow. This is probably one of the dumbest fucking things I've read on /k/ in a while.

>>30954146
yeah, but grenades are too expensive, and if you use it at close quarters you will die, so it will not look cool

>>30953859
https://grabagun.com/mossberg-92514-514-kit-14-12ga-w-bead-sight.html#

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1594

THESE EXACT PARTS

>>30954120
now THAT is sexy

how is it that this thread has so few replys and is still running even after i posted it more than 24 hours ago?

>>30954102
>Mossberg 500 Cruiser and turn it into an AOW

NO! this is a non-NFA weapon and you don't have to cuckstamp it. Fuck the NFA!

>>30954120

>They still turn up now and then when someone dies and the family is going through their stuff.

Yep. Not that it has ever happened to me, because would immediately turn it into the proper authorities even though I don't even have a doggy.

>>30954491
Me too. Not worth it.
You could recreate the H&R Handy Gun fairly easily with a tax stamp and still have a better gun than a Judge.

>>30944117
>VSS Memetorez
Back to /v/ faget

>>30946747
>I'm curious what would happen if somebody tried to fire this monstrosity.
The shells would explode and the pellets would exit the "barrel" impotently because lolnopressure.

>>30951003
Is there an actual person who shot one of these? Sometimes it feels like a colossal ruse.

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A sawed-off is not the sexiest gun. It's not even the sexiest shotgun. That honor goes to high end British hunting shotguns, such as this exquisite example from Boss & Co.

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>>30956623
A gun that says "Care to visit my country estate?"

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>>30956640
After an exhilarating morning putting the best of British craftsmanship to good use, you and your fellow landed gentleman retire to the lounge to enjoy a 21 year old Bruichladdich single malt scotch, while the household chef prepares the partridge from the morning's hunt.

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>>30943928
why the fuck are these things illegal while revolvers that shoot shotshells arent

>>30951860
Hi-Powers power me highly

>>30956676
First off, that looks yummy. Just needs some wild rice. And a good cigar to go with the scotch.
>>30956690
Dumb laws. If I find an old Ithaca Auto and Burglar in the attic that is unpapered, it is contraband and probably always will be.
And Taurus Judges are everywhere.
Most of this had to do with the gangster crap of the 20's and 30's.
Same reason if you put a stock on a pistol without approval that you're than Hitler.

>>30956950
Worse than Hitler, I mean.

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Sawnoff is best off

>>30946675
Bought one for $400 that came with 100 rounds of ammo including all the taxes.

What I got was a solid shotgun. Yes, it is fun. Although now I want a double barrel that has a longer barrel and still have the exposed hammers.

>>30956101
You know I'm honestly not sure

>>30947020
$200 to convert a weapon to AOW. $5 to transfer an AOW.

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>>30944819
>python

>>30951015

>made in belgium
>assembled in portugal
>illegal in britain

>>30960678
kek'd

>>30949241
Don't think I'm being snide here because I'd do sexual things to that gun.
How come you shelled out for the kit?
As I understand it, all you'd have to do is get your hands on a 500 that was shipped from the factory with a pistol grip or no grip at all and fit a raptor grip. After that you can chop the barrel to any length you like as long as the whole thing is over 26".

>>30961849
Mostly cause I wanted to.
>factory made
>gold bead sight
>less legal stuff to worry about
>front end I can sell or reuse

>>30954102
Artist?

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>>30963692
Me too. We keep running into each other. ..well I keep seeing you . Do you also post on the armory section of arf? Cause I swear I've seen your picture there, as well

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>>30963832

Bryan Lee O'Malley, the same dude who did Scott Pilgrim.

>>30943928
>are sawed-off shotguns the sexiest guns?
no
the sexiest guns use belt-fed ammo
or have a barrel bigger than your fist

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>>30946715
>Doom 2016
>Not wanting the super shotgun from Doom 2, or the boomstick from the Evil Dead films.

>>30943935
/thread.