Sicario border scene

>>30924320
Rules of engagement. They even talked about it before they got out of the car.

No. An acutal black OPs shooter conducting an illegal international operation would have opened fire on anyone he was even remotely suspicious of long before any "Can we engage? What are the rules here?" Comms. You do understand that even though they are they good guys, they are literally war criminals on many missions right? It is in their nations best interest to insure no witnesses.

>inb4 im edgy
>inb4 cawadoody
Read some actual books written by black OPs guys. They do some real gnarly shit you wont see on the silver screen.

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>>30924343

I don't understand.

They were following rules of engagement that said if they stayed in the car they wouldn't be shot at?

Isn't the space between 2 international borders considered an international zone meaning no law (technically).

Couldn't they just slaughter both cars and just leave?

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>>30924355

What they were doing was illegal? I thought the Mexican government set up the swap, why didn't the mexican army come with them over the border and then turn around in the USA?

>>30924320

I think glasses guy was supposed to be some kind of contractor, he never IDed as a government employee or soldier but it's pretty obvious by the way he carried himself and the respect he was given by the team members (including the more shadowy characters) he was not the guy to fuck with.

>>30924355
>Using black op unironically

>>30924374
There are no laws between borders.

>>30924320
Seemed like he was trying to bait the guy in the car to make a stupid move so he could shoot the fuck out of them
>>30924392
He was DEA. He's listed as a an Agent in the credits and it's implied.

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>>30924403

DEA Agent Steve Forsing

>>30924423
Thanks for confirming my DEA comment, Anon.

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>>30924435

I don't think the DEA trains people to be hit squad material but whatevs.

pic related its a DEA fast team from Afganistan

these guys were inbed with a ranger company and ran around checking for drug stores

I heard they were a huge liability on the rangers due to the large disparity in there training

>>30924320
That was the first time I've seen that scene.

It was pretty fucking cool. Is the rest of the movie like this?

>>30924470
Who said anything about a hit squad? He's DEA attached to a multiagency task force. What part about that are you having trouble with?

>>30924483

Its not a TON of hurr-durr muh action sequence, but it does have quite a few operating scenes. There's also a bunch of machinations and other behind-the-scenes stuff. Very intense. Highly recommend it.

>>30924483
No. Its not.

I just wanted to remind everyone that the events of this scene happen in-between one of the largest and heavily populated international zones. (USA-MEXICO)

Technically speaking they weren't operating under the authority of any flag and were transporting a detainee.

So like, open fire I guess.

>>30924423
>>30924403

How the fuck does Donovan always get to play the badass.

>>30924503

Since when do multiagency task forces include DELTA?

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>>30924536

>>30924540
Since its a movie, retard. Also it's explained in....the movie. Had you been paying attention and not fucking around on your phone like a 15 yr old girl, you'd noticed.

>>30924320
Was the guy in black who she shot a corrupt Mexican cop?

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>I love it when they no hablo inglés
Why is CIA so based?

>>30924621

He looked like a regular on duty guy who heard gunfire and saw 2 yukons filled with white people with automatic weapons.

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>>30924558
>Also it's explained in....the movie.
it's really not, they just magically know who or where perps are a few times and it's quite annoying

>>30924626
>the CIA has ever done literally anything right

>>30924754
>the CIA has ever done literally anything right

Everything the CIA fails at is public, everything they succeed at isnt known for years to come.

Am I the only one who thought the two vato mobiles were going to try to take out each other rather than attack the convoy?

Something about Blunt's character made me think that

If this happened in real life would it lead to war?

>>30925135
>mexico biting the hand that feeds it
It'd just make the US look bad for a day or two on CNN.

>>30925135
>would a US team acting with Mexican government backing defending themselves lead to war

Are you being serious?

>>30924754

Not the guy who called you a 15 year old but yea, it is explained.

At the end when they are talking to the main character and the only way for the military to operate on U.S soil is if they are attached to a domestic agency under an "advisory role". When she realized they were just using her to go scorched earth on the cartel.

Delta has supposedly been "advisors" on U.S soil before. During the 1996 attacks at the Olympics in Atlanta according to Haney's "Inside Delta Force"

>>30924355
these are tier 1 motherfuckers. they shoot when they have to because they are capable of making those decisions.

>>30925224

Why didn't the mexican government cover them all the way to the american side of the border?

>>30924363
>if they stayed in the car they wouldn't be shot at?
no, it's "return fire only" or "point your gun at them and you're dead."

>>30925468

Now I'm seriously confused, if the mexicans didn't try to get out of the car what would have happened?

>>30924680
Yeah ok racist. Full of "white people".

The same white people who had authority from the Mexican government and were wearing patches saying as much.

He was a local cop on cartel payroll and fired first. Fuck him.

>>30926196

I don't think you understand how being a police officer works.

>>30926227
I don't think you understand how corrupt the Mexican police force is.

>>30926227
>despite first hand knowledge about how police officers are people who do stupid things (almost had to shoot one breaking into the house I was babysitting at),
It's stated in the movie only the federalies are only semi legit and not to trust local cops.

>>30924320
>Glasses guy makes eye contact with someone in the vehicle and shakes his head, almost indicating that if they are willing to stay in the car, he is willing to let them live.

"We must be engaged to engage". The way I look at it is this, he knew that giving them a cheeky shake of the head would them to have a rush of blood and see red.

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>>30926497

I really felt like he was the most squared away in the group and he was trying to signal to the mexicans that if they didn't want to die they didn't have to.

Just he didn't speak Spanish like Benico Del Toro does.

I feel like Benicio would have let them go too if they would have dropped their shit and walked back to Mexico.

My impression was that he was trying to tell them not do pull any dumb shit and they'd get to live.

>>30924320
My name is Michael Westin, and I used to be a spy...until...

>>30924363

There is no "open zone" between borders.
Halfway across it's one country, then the middle onward it's the other country.

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>>30924355
>You do understand that even though they are they good guys, they are literally war criminals on many missions right?
What's really sad is that you don't appear to understand that you're holding two contradictory positions simultaneously.
If they are committing war crimes they are NOT 'the good guys.' No matter whose flag they are representing.

>>30926707
Isn't using hollow points considered a war crime?

>>30924355
>an actual WHITE agent of the state would just open fire on random civilians while kitted out in full clearly american battle rattle in the age of smartphones and dashcams
are you stupid

>>30926733
Stuff that causes unnecessary suffering is banned. Like 9mm

>>30925373
>called you a 15 year old
that was my first post in this itt thread

>the rest of that post
that still doesn't explain how they magically knew which car happened to be full of cartel guys and just beelined for it through traffic

none of them had any weapons showing or were acting strangely in the car before the MUH BLACK OPS OPER8ORZ got out waving rifles around and it was never stated that they had any intel on cars that had been tailing them or are known to be owned by cartel people or whatever

they literally just shook down a random car and got lucky, and then do similar shit several other times throughout the movie

it's hard to see them as EXPERT ELITE OPER8OR UNITZ when they literally just keep getting lucky and have no clear rhyme or reason to their "investigation"

>>30925620
>if the mexicans didn't try to get out of the car what would have happened?
the movie would have been a lot dumber as they'd light up the car and expect the viewer to just go "hmm. seems legit. they killed the bad guys :)"

remember dudes, this isn't a documentary, it's a dramatic action-thriller movie about a woman who can't stop crying when she gets near guns despite being an ex-FBI SWAT spook

>>30924320
is sicario a good enough movie to pay $7 on amazon? i was going to wait but i want to see it.

>>30926554
>if they would have dropped their shit and walked back to Mexico.
Thats all good and well, but they were never going to do that. Better death by American, than have your family cut up because youve shown you cant do as you are told.

>>30926785
FUCK YES IT IS. WATCH IT TWICE.

>>30924320
At that level of operations you don't and won't need to say shit.

>>30924363
>Isn't the space between 2 international borders considered an international zone
>>30924392
>There are no laws between borders.

Are all americans this stupid?

>>30926733
No, that's bullshit, try again.

>>30926828

Apparently.

>>30926785
No. Just download it off of icefilms.

>>30926785
Do you like to watch women cry? Because it's basically just 3 hours of a woman crying.

>>30926774

>they literally just shook down a random car and got lucky

They saw guns in one, and then another car CHOCK full of tatted up cartel beaners eyeballing them that they were watching. They didnt make a move until the guy in the red car opened his door and had a gun, as did the rest of them. They even tried to get them to drop it.

Note how they werent overly suspicious of all the other cars on the road with them? Profiling works Paco.

>>30924754
CIA latched onto FBI to be able to perform domestic operations.

CIA, like they like to do, brought friends that are trigger-pullers + other LEOs like DEA.

does it look to anyone else like his head is too high off the stock to actually see thru that optic?

>>30926774
Demeanor, red flags, profiling, gut feelings, etc. take your pick. Take a basic SA class and it all plays into it.

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>>30926961
Anon, how're you gonna fight for 2nd mendment with such bad eye?

It never fails to astound me the sort of basic questions people ask about Sicario. Its not like its a particularly complex film, but it still manages to trip up half of /k/s userbase.

>>30926806
This.

Not even the dumbest cartel banger tries shit like this with several operators pointing guns at him without there being some serious threat to his loved ones.

What was their plan? Take the brother or kill him before he can talk, i guess.

What was their exit strategy on that one way street headed for the US border with lots of border guards?

>>30924470
>I heard they were a huge liability on the rangers due to the large disparity in their training
I mean you got bearded killing machines on the one hand and specialists for harassing high school students for smoking pot on the other.

>>30926774
Goddam you're a retard.

>>30926828
>Are all americans this stupid?
look America is having a sort of mini dark ages, but not all of us are this retarded. I'm sorry that we are this way.

>>30924470
Why the fuck are civvy LEOs deployed overseas?

>>30927426
Why the fuck is FBI HRT rescuing hostages in middle east?

Because there's a lot of bodies you can do live fire excercises on, and there's lots of pros to cross-train/work with.

>>30927254
>What was their exit strategy on that one way street headed for the US border with lots of border guards?

Probably ditch the guns and go back through the border that the corrupt Feds let them through with all that shit in the first place.

>>30925412
>why didn't they let illegal aliens enter our borders?
MAGA

>>30927367
Don't apologize. You're more pathetic then the retards then.

>>30924320

The point of that scene is that it's shady as fuck and a grey area. You can't really tell if it's provocation and murder and was planned or if it's just overreacting or self defence. The whole movie was about how American law enforcement/contractors are just as criminal and bloodthirsty as Mexican gangs.

>>30926733
Yes and no. Expanding ammunition is prohibited by the Hague Convention when used in 'offensive weapons'. So it's 'banned' when two signatories (which the USA is not) engage in conventional (i.e. declared) warfare. The USA just plays ball because of NATO standardization and so as to avoid Europe throwing a hissy fit.

>>30927522
It looked pretty justified to me hombre. Unless in Mexico the headshake means 'Come try to kill me' instead of 'Lets just not'.

>>30924320
>Was the glasses guy ever identified as a member of US Law Enforcement? Was he a contractor? DOD? CIA?

It was a fucking movie. Not real. Shitty movie at that. Kill yourself.

>>30927554

Or it could be a tactic. "Calm down and you'll live", but really they would have got shot regardless. Maybe. Possibly. That's just how I felt about it, and maybe that's what the Mexican dudes in the car thought too. In that kind of situation everything happens very fast. Just my two cents.

>>30926733
>>30927539
Exactly. Using an expanding bullet in a war between two nations, BOTH of which have acceded formally to the Hague Convention of 1899 (NOT the other Hague Conventions of 1907,) would actually be a war crime in the technical sense.

Most people use 'war crime' to refer to more heinous offenses which are understood to be crimes regardless of who does it to whom, things like torture and ethnic cleansing.

The US doesn't issue hollow points because we don't want a massive supply problem the moment we invade Sweden and remember we can only use FMJs against their troops at the last minute.

>>30924355

What books?

>>30924423

Thought they were Delta or something of that caliber just there to fuck shit up if it went south.

The DEA's involvement was very superficial.

>>30924621
Yeah, the idea is that the Mexis were after the VIP, and when she didn't get out of the car, they assumed she was the VIP. So this guy was corrupt, went in to off her, and somehow the super elite delta whoevers and moustache hero didn't notice him until he'd already been shot.

>>30927623
I really don't think that was implied to be the case, but it's not a terrible idea.

>>30924320

I was always under the belief that he was Delta. When he picks up Matt (Brolin) at the place, he mentions that he pulled together a team of Delta operators for him, the "crack bunch." Also, the DEA guy briefing the room about the op mentioned that all Deltas would be split between the lead and trail vehicles, and Boner was in the trail vehicle.

>>30928925

This desu, he was too good to be a simple DEA agent. He was either delta or another CIA SAD spook

>>30924355
Recommend me some books

>>30928992
Ive heard CIA SAD is actually pretty boring. Ive been told that is where guys go thinking their going to do something cool but end up doing tons of paperwork and sitting at a desk.

>>30929472
wasnt that marine major in sad? 40 or so deployments when he bit the dust in Iraq?

>>30926733
Only if your country signed the 1899 Hague Convention. America didn't, therefore they can issue it just like they did jist recently

>>30924355
Fuck you're dumb

>>30929472
>Ive been told that is where guys go thinking their going to do something cool but end up doing tons of paperwork and sitting at a desk.

Intelligence work in a nutshell.

>>30924320
you need to rewatch that movie.

>they were CIA
>op was illegal

they didn't want to kill anyone they did have to. they were not some heros exterminating bad guys because they were bad.

>>30929551

Hello oldfriend, how old are you?

>>30924483
this movie is /k/ approved

>>30929579
Hello newfriend, that's one of our resident shitposters.

He's about 12.

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>>30929579
doing well thanks for asking.

>>30929608
shut it fagtits

>>30925069
>vatomobiles
Saved for future use.
You glorious bastard

>>30926227
You mean like not noticing or being informed or the super important hand off of a VIP preceded by a big ass convoy of technicals and SUVs

What the literal fuck is wrong with this thread and OP
>Glasses guy makes eye contact with someone in the vehicle and shakes his head, almost indicating that if they are willing to stay in the car, he is willing to let them live.
What?
He's shaking his head to indicate that the guy in the car isn't supposed to fuck around, as in "Don't even think about it you cunt"

How anyone can watch this and come to a different conclusion is just beyond me. How the fuck is this even a question? There isn't even a word for how basic this interaction was.

>>30926497
Or you no, communicating in a universal way

>>30924320
We need more Jeffery Donovan in media. I want another operator show.

>>30927522
Riiiight because a bunch of armed etch-a-sketchs we're just going to drive across the border to visit the grand canyon and before the family get together

>>30924320
> glasses guy

You mean dreamy Steve..

>>30925373
They were also involved in the Waco siege.

>>30924754
>The CIA has ever done literally anything right.
The CIA killed Che. That counts.

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>>30927554
>It looked pretty justified to me hombre
This.
>Keep a car full of armed cholos under the gun
>Other car gets lit the fuck up after they try some retarded shit
>Back away from other car to exfil
>Dumbfuck quickly and aggressively opens the door and starts to get out the instant your eyes leave them
>M4A1ventiliation.exe

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>>30926875
MFW I love watching women cry.

>>30927063
Younger guys rarely pay attention to any one thing exclusively. I'm always yelling at my friends to stop instafagging and watch the goddamn movie. It gets really old answering 20 questions about basic plot points for three days after watching a film with friends.

>>30927063
This board is fucking retarded when it comes to movies. It's largely a bunch of tryhard kiddies who are spending more time trying to notice some nitpicky flaws that they can fly into an indignant rage over on 4chan as soon as they get home. Naturally, they're not going to notice exposition beyond the most basic plot elements. Why bother listening to dialogue when you can divert 90% of your mental faculties towards trying to see if that AR has an auto sear pin or not?

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Is this what it will be like when El Chapo is extradited?

>>30931533
If I was responsible for that, I'd just fly him straight to colorado.

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>>30927426
>don't call it a grave.gif

>>30924320
IT WAS A PUMP FAKE!

He juked the spics by pretending to walk away knowing damn well they would start to get out and shoot.

>>30924536
Yes, yes he does. Cause he's Michael Got'amn Westen

>>30929822

There is a word

"Don't."

>>30924355

or if they don't shoot motherfuckers in mexico they don't escalate the incident and get away with a slap on the wrist vs a full-blown diplomatic incident and the possibility of Mexican jail as the US Government offers you up to keep relations with its neighbor to the south.

>>30926733
My dad told me a story when he was in Afghanistan of some spec ops guys giving him hollow point ammo calling it "Long range ammo" Being blatantly obvious its hollow points but not calling it that. My dad questioned their intelligence, and they played it off saying "Nah not hollow points just shoots faster and further" They both knew they were hollow points and the spec ops guys didnt give a fuck. My dad was technically spec ops too, but he was a civil affairs guy stationed with the french foreign legion in afghanistan.

>>30929636

Go back to arfcom or whatever namefag board you came from, you're maxing out the LOOK AT ME SHIT

>hey look at me I'm gonna tripfag
>look at me I'm OLDER THAN THE AVERAGE POSTER, THAT MAKES ME SPECIAL

I turn 30 in two weeks, I've fucked more bitches in/on conexs (cause we got to have alcohol in our compounds and army girls are sluts) than you have, and even I don't have the urge to namefag when I'm on a fucking imageboard.

Same deal as I don't post bare tits in arf GD. Respect the fucking culture

Jesus fuck.

>>30931666
Satan, that anon was saying that there doesn't exist a word to adequately describe the basicality of the interaction. He was not looking for a word to describe the interaction itself.

>>30924754
>Never done anything right
Once in a blue moon they do pull some interesting stuff off. While this isn't operating, this was some sneaky shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian

>>30931666

Thanks, Satan

>>30931691
The best match grade ammo is open tip.

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>>30931499
Seeing /k/ try to discuss Fury finally made me decide that I should just stop trying and engage shitpost mode 24/7. It was that bad.

>>30931691
>>30931706

there's a US Army JAG finding that open tip match rounds like M118LR and Mk 262 have similar terminal ballistics to FMJ so they're legal because they don't expand. the tip tends to clog up or break off when it enters a body.

>>30924320
>almost indicating that if they are willing to stay in the car, he is willing to let them live.

I think that's the point, he has a holistic view of the conflict and doesn't see the point of shooting gang members if he doesn't have to

he's saying to the hit squad "I see you, you see me, this isn't going to be an ambush, you guys are all stuck in that shitty car and I've already drawn, just go home"

the point is that if the gangs know they CAN walk away, they will walk away more often

>>30924320
Did anyone notice in that scene that his MP5 changes like 2 or 3 different times?

>>30931787
I noticed the change in suppressor, but that was all.
Time stamps? I'm curious now.

>>30924320
Glasses guy was a DEA agent working in conjunction with members of the FBI, CIA, DELTA, US Marshals, and I think even a Texas Ranger or two (the fat mustachioed cowboy hat wearing guys of course)

They were not allowed to kill those guys. There is no "law free" zone between countries or special directive for super secret black ops dudes or w/e. Legally speaking they at best extrajudicially killed two carloads of enemy combatants, at worst murdered a bunch of foreign nationals while in their official roles as feds/military and while outside their jurisdiction. That's why when they all get back in their cars the guy on the radio says that there's going to be a shitstorm.

The guy who responds to him by saying it won't even make the news is the filler for the big plot hole created by their extrajudicial murder spree. If something like this did happen then there probably wouldn't be any involved party that would want it to be public. The Mexicans would be embarrassed, the Cartel would be embarrassed and in danger of looking like weak incompetent idiots, and the Americans would probably shit themselves until they realized Mexico and the Cartels want to stay quiet. None of this means that this would be allowed or legitimized somehow this is still completely illegal, but they ended up with the best possible version of an entirely fucked up situation so who wants to cause a commotion?

This thread has too much bullshit taken from the pages of guys who wrote books about what "they experienced" as black ops tactical ninja demons (read: they went on two missions and collected stories from what other people heard about). Does shady sneaky shit go on with the military acting on the edges of the law? Yes absolutely, and they push those edges as far as they can. But they still operate inside those boundries. That's the whole point of the movie. What they're doing isn't badass it's scary bordering on tyrannical, and the FBI agent is just used as a human legal loophole.

>>30931947
It changes from an MP5A3 or an MP5A5 that has a railed grip to either an MP5SD3 or an MP5SD6.

Look at the difference in 5:05 and 5:50. It's pretty easy to spot the difference between an SD and a non-SD MP5.

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>>30924423
Was his character a nod to Mike Vining?

>>30932111
That seems to be what is suggested-- yes, I think so.

>>30932027

THIS.

the world doesn't work like it's Punisher MAX

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>>30932061
Shit, I didn't even notice the SD change actually, I mean I saw the suppressor was bigger but I didn't realize it was a SD...
Shit...I need some sleep.

>>30926677

>(Citation required)

>>30924320
glasses guy also takes his fucking finger off the trigger to unlock the cars doors.
that triggered me slightly

>>30932156
But it should

>>30927426

To be special

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>>30932111
>tfw a /k/ommando was in charge of casting

He was operator as fuck, definitely reminded me of SgtMaj Vining

>>30932204

no it shouldn't.

shoot first, ask questions later only works in 80's action movies and cawodoody

>>30932027

So it would lead to war...?

>>30932277

no (turkey shot down a Russian jet and now Putin and Erdogan are buddies), but it would lead to diplomatic incidents, pulling ambassadors, protests, protests in the UN, repayments, etc.

basically a sideshow of shit that distracts you from your job just because you got trigger happy.

it also gets you a pink slip and likely a trip to jail.

>>30932183
Are you retarded? This is fucking common knowledge, look it up if you're so stupid.

>>30924320
>"When he pees it burns"
What did he mean?

>>30929472

I've read different. Granted, the majority of CIA people are those sifting through various forms of intelligence, but those SAD guys are no joke.

>>30926579
for how long since that would mean they failed?

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you better explain this pattern to me, i'm not fluent in shotgun.

>>30933681
Lol, mexican't loaded birdshot.

>>30933702
htat's it? huge hole and little speckmarks?

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>>30924320

It's a movie technique to build suspense.

>>30933771

Shotgun wad and thin drywall? Yes

>>30933827
oh, right, I forgot it's seriously close range and there's wad. thx.

>>30933681
it's not a real shotgun blast, it's movie magic

>>30933827
wad would explain a center hole, but not that big

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>>30924320

Like Sicario?

Do it for real.

http://www.drugenforcementedu.org/careers/dea-fast-team/

>>30926774
>none of them had any weapons showing or were acting strangely in the car before the MUH BLACK OPS OPER8ORZ got out waving rifles around and it was never stated that they had any intel on cars that had been tailing them or are known to be owned by cartel people or whatever

Have you even watched the movie or the clip above?
All the other cars have solo men or kids/women in them. These two cars are 1) modified/"styled" with aftermarket shit 2) have 4 guys in them that are eyeballing the US cars, looking nervous as fuck and are filled with tattoos and last but not least, at least one of the guys in the cars has his weapon out in broad daylight. Finally, the guy in the red car with the hysterical facial hair gets opens his door.

All of this happens before the US forces even leave their cars.


>they literally just shook down a random car and got lucky, and then do similar shit several other times throughout the movie

Can you give any actual examples?

>>30924320
A lot of people have trouble fully understanding the who's who and what's what of this movie, and I imagine the film makers and screen writers did this intentionally to add to the suspense so you identify with the female protagonist. I'll hopefully help you folks understand some key points:

>female lead character is on the FBI's tactical team for her area
>while raiding a suspected cartel owned house, an IED goes off killing several LEO's
>CIA is running an op to put a friendly puppet cartel into power for north american drug distribution so they can be controlled per US interests since its known that the war on drugs is a fallacy anyway
>CIA handles national security interests OCONUS, FBI handles them CONUS per federal law (CIA not allowed to operate in the US)
>to make their op appear hunky dory, they create a federal task force consisting of reps from federal law enforcement agencies
>when operating as a law enforcement task force with agents of the US law enforcement community they can now officially legally operate in the US
>FBI leadership wants to protect their agents by going after this cartel who has taken it to the next level
>CIA guy (brolin) picks her because she is vulnerable and can be manipulated and hopefully wont ask too many questions
>she volunteers because she wants to "get the guys who did this"
>she asks too many questions
>cia guy basically says too bad youre along for the ride now

cont...

>>30933968
>delta was brought into the task force probably on the down low just to assist since delta does do spooky spy stuff in addition to direct action (inside delta force is a great book that goes into it)
>marshals were officially present to pick up a prisoner for extradition to the US, marshals mainly handle federal prisoner transport in the US
>not sure if they mention exactly who mike weston works for in this but possibly just a contractor, i doubt LEO
>none of them wanted to leave a trail of bodies and the head shaking was likely not a taunt but a legitimate warning not to do anything stupid
>bad guys drew on him
>mike weston operated operationally

The movie is pretty self explanatory, might help to just watch it a couple times to catch everything. It's basically just a movie about the FBI chick being a pawn in a CIA op because if shit goes sideways they can say "hey we federal task force we can opr8 in the US lel"

>>30933994
really, what was so hard to understand about that?

>>30933915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo

First shot in this video (around 3:50) is birdshot from 12 feet. I think the shot in Sicario may have been from slightly further away, but the hole they get in that youtube video looks similar to the one in Sicario, if a little smaller.

>>30931758
For what it's worth, I was under the impression that OTM bullets were Hague-friendly because the hollow point is a byproduct of the manufacturing process, not a designed feature.

>>30924483
Night vision beaner removal scene is GOAT

>>30931694

As a fellow Army fag, I think you're struggling with your age and experiences. No?

This movie sucked ass, you're all fags.

>>30934364
Sorry you didn't enjoy it like the rest of us anon, what did you dislike about it in particular?

>>30924470
The fuck do these guys do? Sounds like a fun job. How hard is it to get in?

>>30933681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU

>not knowing Barry's dad's birdshot tricks.

>>30932176

All I can think is CoD 4 Pripyat.

>>30932277

How many times are you retards going to ask that? Yes, Mexico wants an official war to add to the troubles of the existing border conflict.

>>30935276

Typically violence between the border guards leads to some pretty stressful political situations.