/meg/- Military Enlistment General Let's argue about ly

How's the process of getting a waiver work? I plan on admitting to trying marijuana because I plan on getting a TS.

When do I find out if it went through? Odds on the Army taking me with that on my record?

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First for this

Anyone looking into Rangers or general military enthusiasts should check this out

Bought on eBay for $2.99

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MURHEEN here if anyone has questions ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

>>30922303
describe your most interesting day

>>30922281
why are the reviews for it such shit?

>>30922242
Any can scouts that can tell me their daily routine? Interested in joining but not sure entirely what that mos entails, from what I've deduced you are just infantry who scouts

Can I go to Airborne School regardless of my MOS? Like if I went Intel or something. I don't care if it would be useless, I just want the jump wings.

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>>30922313
"Hey dude how high do you think we can jump this armored 7ton?"

"Hey man, wanna go kidnap a hooah?"

One of my LCpls spent his entire paycheck in like 4 days on nothing but payperview porn and pizza.

I've let doc use me for a number of medical experiments.

When I was awarded (pic related)

Hearing out how our XO wanted to drive out onto a live fire motar range and almost got blown up.

Getting personally called into the COs officer and have him scream at me for about half an hour.

Those would be some of my more memorable days in the corps so far.

>>30922372
Chances of you going unless it's directly MOS related are very very very slim. Not impossible but you'll probably never get to go unless it's a requirement.

>>30922337
Fuck if I know

I can dump some pics if you want

>>30922357
Cav* scouts

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What is the most physically demanding, non-pog, Officer position in the military?
>inb4 on your knees

Currently in initial officer training in the RAF here, if any wannabe pilots or anyone else has got any questions about officer selection or the parts of iot that I've done so far I'll try answering.

>>30922991
Do you know much about the Gunners? Unrelated to officer training but have you learnt anything about their role that you may not find online?

>>30922242
I tried to enlist in the ADF (Army) a few months back, but I got a class 4 due to hearing loss (Nerve damage to the left ear, mild/moderate hearing loss).

Is there any point in trying to appeal it or am I basically fucked? Please and thank you.

>>30922303
Which scares you more, the Taliban or your Drill Instructor?

>>30923253
raf regt gunners?

>>30923422
yeah

>>30923441
well apparently its for people who want to go infantry but have a bit more about them, according to the regt at least anyway.
at the moment there's fuck all for them to do since we left afghanistan and the raf police are taking over more of the force protection role. so theyre losing guys because of boredom.
some of the guys i spoke to think the regt's days are numberd now too, though i think it'd be at least 15 years before that actually happened.

if you want to go infantry its definitley a better choice than the army lifestyle-wise but you wont get to do quite as much opporationally

>>30922991
What branch of the BAF should I go into if I've actually got a good degree from Oxbridge?

>>30923773
Army Intelligence Corp

>>30922991
Hey, what are the tests like that you have to do?

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There's was this qt sitting all alone at the MEPS waiting room.

Looked extremely bored

I didn't sit near her.

>>30923773
Depends what you wanna do m8. Tbh they don't care that much about your degree, its a bonus to have it but you only need one if you're going eng or pers training. I know lots of people in training without degrees.

>>30923826
For certain branches there are aptitude tests and then everyone does a bunch of leadership and planning tests.
What branch do you want to do?

>>30923936
Good you dont want non of that, unless you want her to start screaming daddy no when you are trying to sleep.

>>30923788
That's what I was originally thinking. What's the pay like and can you go in as an officer?

>>30922372
35f here, get it in contract. If not then have a 280+ pt score and volunteer during ait. I dunno about other Intel disciplines but almost everyone who volunteered with a good pt score went for my cycle.

>>30924147
>>30923943
Completely clueless here about the British Officer process. Do you train as an officer, and then get to pick a unit? When are you assigned to a certain regiment? If you wanted to be a royal engineers officer, what's the process?

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hey /meg/ i just sign for nuke in sub, what do/ expect

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Sup Maroon Corns

>>30924202
In the army you train as a general officer then get put on a unit. You state your preferences but it's need of the service at the end of the day. I've heard that the people with the strongest leadership end up as infantry, average get RE and AAC and stuff like that and the weaker ones get signals, that's all conjecture from a couple army NCO's I know though.

In the RAF you choose your branch before you join

>>30924285
So I couldn't directly go in as an Intelligence Officer?

>>30924303
Not in the army, you can join the RAF as an intelligence officer though.

>>30924212
You a top or a bottom? :^)

>>30922379
If you've got the time to type them up, I'd appreciate the full stories.

>>30924349
>You a top or a bottom? :^)
I can do both ;)

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:^)

>>30924330
Are you sure? I watched a Sandhurst documentary and the officer cadets did interviews with the regiments they wanted to join.

How much running does the Air Force do on the first day of boot camp? Waiting on a MEPS waiver and I think I should start running now. I ran XC years ago, so I'm not a fatass who can't run

>>30924769
what is running in the air force?

>>30924769
basically you'll get there, and on the first day of PT you'll all do an initial PT test to see where you stand. there will be lots of red belts (people who are out of shape), and some blues, mostly green (iirc)

After that, you'll alternate between cardio, which is 20 mins of running and then sprint/walk/sprint/walk, and the next day would be push ups and sit ups

>>30924882
How shit must you perform to be designated a red belt?

Can someone explain the humor of OP pic to a retard?

t. Retard

>>30924952
He's a boot
(Boot camp)
Aka newfag

>>30924212
Replace the meat with poo, and your pic will be related

>>30922303
MOS?

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do the marines use M109 Paladins or just towed artillery? of yes what mos would that be?

>>30925679
cannon crew, I think

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>>30922242
Got into a short argument with my unit career counselor for not being as helpful as I thought he would be in helping me reclass through email. Bascially, he told me to not tell him how to do his job and that all the actual work is on me. Am I fucked now, or did nothing change? If I don't need this guy to change MOS/ units, then what is the point of having a career counselor in your unit. Come to think of it, I didn't even know we had one until this year.

>>30924152
also, if you have airborne in intel school, you'll actually get your orders when you graduate instead of being a fucking holdover

>>30924946
it's 1.5 miles, guy. you can fucking do it

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>Friend getting clearance asks to use me as a reference
>I say sure
>OPM calls months later while I'm at work, leaves message asking me to call back
>Call back after work, leave a message explaining that I'd call back the next day during my lunch break at a specific thirty minute window
>The next day call back at that specific time, making sure to take my lunch break during said odd window so as not to interfere with her lunch break
>Leave another message
>Don't get a call the next day
>Get a call on Friday during work, not lunch break
>"Regretfully I was working out of town..."
>Calls back only when I'm at work intermittently
>I'm kind of getting pissed now

Goddamn, the fuck is the OPM doing?

>>30929107
the OPM investigator i talked to was like a fucking model, hopefully you luck out and get her. she was easily a 9

when can I expect the investigations to start and the phone calls for the SF86 thing? I signed off and gave fingerprints a few weeks ago

>>30923943
Hoping to be a pilot/weapons operator/drone dude haha, cause the rad dudes said you can apply for all 3. But yeah I just wanted to know what the tests are like for those if you could help :)

>>30929416
Oh damn I meant raf not rad

>>30922281
All pictures are of guys from 1st platoon A co 2/75

>>30922303
What do you look for in a corpsman?

>>30929367
I'm in AIT and none of my family or friends have heard anything yet

So Ive been to a chiropractor before and didn't tell the recruiter.

I had previously thought I wasn't a patient, as I only sat on the table once and they asked if anything hurt, I said no. For the rest of the sessions that my mom went to (both of us officially patients) I stayed in the waiting room and did my homework.

I have no paperwork relating to it and it was through old insurance at leastb10 years ago, what do I at meps?

>>30929699
>what do I at meps?
nothing shut the fuck up

>>30929695
Are you getting a TS?

>>30929730
Ok thanks, they won't look into it later right?

>>30922914
Civil affairs maybe? Or transpo?

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>>30922242
My sister in law's BF is a 30 year old fatass who just shipped off to basic. He's pretty dumb, not in very good shape, and has the personality of a potential mass-shooter. Is he gonna wash out?

Side note: he's Middle Eastern and speaks fluent Arabic.

>>30929764
No, medical records arent universal. There isnt just some huge database. They only know what you tell/show them. Plus it aint like yo had cancer its just a chiropractor.

>>30929779
He's gonna Pyle the DS

>>30922914
Oh sorry you said non-pogue, well that just means airborne infantry officer, eventually go to rasp 2 because infantry officers all go to ranger school anyway. Serve in batt for a while because officers dont stay long in batt. Then send in your packet for sf.

Make sure to shout airborne 3 times before lights out.

>>30929824
I...I don't know what that means.

>>30929847
Watch "Full Metal Jacket" film

>>30929847
Get out

Going to the Coast Guard recruitment center tomorrow to discuss Reserves while I complete a Bachelors of Science in Mechanical Engineering. Hoping to go to OCS after graduation then go full time on the path to being an Aviator. Train at Mobile ATC on either the HH-65 Dolphin or the HC-130J Combat King II. Anybody in the Coast Guard on here?

>>30929847
Full metal jacket if I remember correctly, that fat dumbass who can't do shit right, gets bullied and eventually snaps and shoots a dude

>>30929883
Oh he's gonna kill himself? Cool.

>>30929883
>>30929890
>>30929907
I thought you were talking about Gomer Pyle. Oh, so he's going to be a loveable screw up?

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>>30922242
>Graduate this semester
>Have a decent job lined up by a friend of mine, no pressure to take it anytime within the next year
>Want to go USMC Reserve
>typical /fit/izen, in very good shape, from a somewhat military family
>completely clean record
>good credit
>no drugs, rarely drink
>want to talk to a recruiter soon to get the ball rolling

any tips guise? And I'm assuming its the same thing with the National GAurd/Army Reserve where the MOS they need at your nearest station is really the ones you get to pick from/assigned too? I don't mind being a weekend warrior I want to work stateside and start my career but I also wanna serve.

>inb4 reservist POG bitch wannabe
plz no bully, I come to /k/ with open arms.

>>30929901
>Or maybe the C-144 Ocean Sentry

>>30929907
>>30929940
Why are you people here? How have you never seen that movie? Even if you hate the military and guns its still a classic. Your fathers failed you by not watching it with you when you were young.

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>>30929969

>>30922276

If you try it don't say a fucking word to the recruiter, while you're in or if they asked you if someone told you to say nothing.

>>30929999
nice quads but what you wrote down really doesn't make any sense, care to clarify?

>>30922242
Home away from GF/Spouse

any tips on this? how do i know she wont suck 87 dicks a say while im gone? i would never cheat on her with anyone but how can i know for sure she wont

>>30929996
I'm fine with that, we all have a role to fill

>>30922242
So who makes these threads? Is OP like a recruiter?

>>30929901
In the delayed entry program just waiting for my ship out date for bootcamp

What do soldiers usually do in their free time while on base?

Canadian here. Think 31 is too old to join the military? I have college police foundations. Was thinking going for military police. Good idea or bad? I'm unattached and in good shape.

will an SSBI find an arrest as a minor for possession of marijuana (adjudication withheld)?

>>30930289
Too old to make officer in most countries.

>>30929758
yes, someday

>>30930164
Judging off what I've learned on /k/: masturbate, poop, get drunk, or play Xbox.

>>30930289
my platoon in bct had a 34 year old out of shape police sergeant and he made it

Nice I'm hoping I get a setup like this. I'm looking for tuition assistance starting this semester so I'm going to try to set that up if possible too. I need an idea of when I'd go to Boot if I joined right now

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Answering what I can about air force, dli, or getting a TS.

>>30930512
how long did it take for people to get calls? Did you meet the OPM dudes

>>30930512
I'm in my early thirties and want to serve. USAF age restrictions don't DQ me. Want to join as an officer--BS in Geography. Intelligence would be ideal. Married. Have two arrests as a minor, one for pot. No felonies. Clean record as adult (15 years).

What are my chances.

>>30930549
I seem to be the quick case out of all my buddies.
My parents called me soon after basic telling me they were contacted. My friends I put on the sf86 got calls about a month and a half after basic. I already have my clearance and I've only been in since january.

>>30930594
Besides the arrests you would seemingly be golden. I don't know a lot about officer stuff but getting into Intel with arrests might prove to be tricky if not impossible. I know we went through extensive screening and interview processes to get here. Also pot seems to be a big fucking deal to them at least when it's more than 15 uses Or a drug related crime.

>>30930619
It was possession, not selling or anything. I emailed a recruiter today. I'm going in and just laying it all on the table. They'll find out about the arrests either way.

>>30930619
I'm not married to Intel, I just thought it would help my civilian career in geospatial science later on. What careers would you recommend?

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>>30929847
Full. Metal. Jacket.

>>30930619
Can you elaborate on the screening/interview process?

reclassing from 11b to 13f. i think i fucked up but i havent done actual infantry shit with my unit in a year anyway. figured i had better chances killing as a fister

I'm a junior in college

I decided i really want to join the military

I want to do something with medicine like being medic (was planning on going to pa school post grad)

I have no clue where to start

I'm majoring in biology and am EMT-Advanced certified

What do?

Any tips on Navy BCT and interesting Navy rates?

>>30931369
stop typing like that for a start

>>30931403
Like what?

>>30930512
How thorough is TS If there's no ssbi? Did you lie about anything at meps or on the TS? Did medical come up at all?

>>30931413
Spacing everything out like that. It's weird. Anyway, best place to start is to read all of the wonderful info on the different websites for different branches (assuming American) and learn some stuff so no one has to spoonfeed you.

Or just go to a recruiter and tell them you want to be a 68W with an opt 40...which means you'll be a medic in the 75th.

>>30930619
Big deal to who? Meps? A guy last thread said they don't really care anymore and his bunk mate at OSUT got a waiver for it in his system

>>30924214
Corpsmen seem like chill guys

>>30931468
>which means you'll be a medic in the 75th
Yea if he passes rasp, presocm, and socm, then doesn't fail out of batt

>>30931494
It's more fun if you don't let on that it's hard

>>30931391
>Any tips on Navy BCT
Is easy as long as you arent fat
>>30931391
>interesting Navy rates?
What interests you?

>>30931468
Thanks

And I have been doing some research on it too. If i understand correctly, your asvab scores and the military's needs will determine what jobs or positions you'll be offered. Now if they don't offer you the opportunity to become a medic and move on to AIT, is there a chance to move into it in the future if a position opens up? Or is there no bitching allowed and you stay where you're offered?

>>30930811
13P here. You'll come over here at Sill with the 78th as a non-iet, Bravo Battery. It's pretty chill with you fuckers after the work day, however you do seem more disciplined overall given your job. Just gotta run around with your assault pack and a map all day, learn how to request arty from me, etc. Think you have a ruck march at some point of your 6 weeks..otherwise idk. You'll have a lot more freedom as a non-iet and can roam off post after 1700.

Is there a Military Commission General? I really want to go through the reserves as a 70A/70B (given that I'm working on my MHA and am already in the healthcare field), and I'd like to find more about it.

I'm enlisting now.
I'm waiting so fucking long.
I just want to go.
Is it normal?

>>30931747
At first I was hoping to get a fast ship date. But then I was like oh fugg im actually doing this. I only have to wait like a month and a half though so it ain't too bad. I'm just enjoying this time.

How long is your wait chum?

>>30931621
If you sign up without the MOS that you want, you'll have to reclass later, like, maybe way later. Good rule of thumb is to never expect the army to give you what you want while you're in and that you'll be shit on at every turn. Generally you get what you want on the contract when you're signing up or you walk out.

>>30931786
"Any day now" to "We don't know but soon" to "Probably next year"

I'm dying here. I had great scores and they say I'm "competitive"
But I want to go now.

My regular life has nothing left. I'm just drifting until I go.

BTW you're not actually going on ship are you? My dad did that. Says it's hell.

Serious question, very important.

Will I be able to get fluid for my lighter?

>>30931948
>literally gasoline

>>30922303
Why are you in the Marines?

>>30931953
Lighter shit isn't gas

>>30931953
I feel stupid
is this what being a boot feels like?

>>30931948
What are you even asking?
Also if you use a zippo you are a complete faggot even more so if you think youre cool cause you can snap and open it.

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>>30931494
>tfw I'm scared shitless for all of that
>Still gonna do it

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oh fuck i shouldnt log in from my home PC should i

>>30931732
Have you tried rotc? If youre looking to go commission reserves. You could do rotc for 3 years. Ms1 year, ciet (over the summer to skip ms2), then do 3 and 4 year.

Either that or see a specific reserve unit youre interested in to see if they can pt together an ocs packet for you.

>>30932220
it would be extremely careless

>>30922242
I was diagnosed with ADD, but did not disclose it on my medical forms because the psychs who did it are in China and I never took meds. I did apply for academic accommodations in college (never used), so the records do exist in the US. Will I get nailed for fraudulent enlistment?

>>30923275
Eh give it a shot and bribe a specialist

>>30922242
anyone know of stores in the greater puget sound area where you can try on boots? i have a weird foot (9.5-10 double wide) and buying boots online is a bitch

What are the odds of being accepted into the army as a Prior Service Marine?

No specific job in mind, just curious if it's even possible right now.

I understand that I don't have to go through army Basic Training, so is there any real waiting list, or can I just get immediate orders to my next unit, get a couple briefs and a clothing allowance, and be on my way?

>>30932648
Extremely fucking high, obviously.

My platoon got a prior service Marine and everyone hates him, mostly because he's a shitbag but also because it's a very different environment.

>>30932658
nigga wut, even if you didn't have to go through BCT you need to go through AIT.

>>30932678
>Extremely fucking high, obviously.
Yo can you explain why tis obvious? Not that guy but im prior service as well and i am looking to go into the army. I figured with the downsizing it would be tough. I heard in a previous thread they are only taking 18xs for prior service, any truth to that?
Also do prior service have to re go thru army BCt if they are coming from another branch? im asking cause i would actually like to.

>>30932678
That's good to hear, but I wasn't aware that my odds were high at all. I was under the impression that I was pretty much put on the same level as fresh out of high school civilians.

>>30932678
Ah that's right, I forgot about AIT. I was on Fort Lee for my MOS school, I remember the kind of silly stuff they did there.

>>30932691
Only Marines can skip BCT as far as I know.

Somewhat surprised that I even have to attend AIT since MCT is essentially a beefed up version of it.

>>30932704
>Only Marines can skip BCT as far as I know.
Interesting, i was navy so im glad i get to go. What are you trying to go in as, infantry?

I'm kind of looking forward to it, I might give the recruiter down the road a ring and see if he can give me some solid answers.

I'm not a great Marine, but I'm far from the worst. I imagine their standards aren't that high, since if you were a really stellar Marine you'd probably be reenlisting anyway. I'm ready to get away from the gung ho retardation. I don't hate the service by any means, but at this point I've already earned my EGA and all that bullshit, I have nothing to prove, I can just focus on doing my job and getting along with people.

>>30932712
I'm not sure, the more I think about it being an armory or some POG job wouldn't be bad. If I can get an infantry contract or anything above that then great, I'd be happy to, but I wouldn't press for it.

>>30932691
No truth to it, I'm 11b and we got a prior service Marine. They can get a slot anywhere just like anyone else, AFAIK.

And from what I know, you'll be dropped into AIT with other prior service if you're from the Corps.

>>30932697
You'll be treated differently throughout your entire career especially if you have a deployment patch with the Corps, which you can wear.

>>30932740
I don't, but that's great to know, thank you.

>>30932704
Are you mixing that up with osut? Ait is mos exclusive. Depending on what you want to reclass you have to go through ait

>>30932738
Word
>>30932740
Gotcha, like i said im prior navy so i actually hope i can go through army bct. Im also hoping getting back in wont be too difficult. I got out with a perfect discharge and have 0 medical issues so i dont see why itd be hard but you never know.

I'm thinking of either being a pilot in the raf or the Royal Navy, anybody know which one I should choose?

My buddy started air force bmt on June 7th, when is he headed to tech school? I need help

>>30930035
Break up with her, you tard. She's going to cheat.

I want to fly cool shit. I'm 23 and currently working on an associates, and then a bachelors. I would be 27-28 when I'm done with school.
I've got some drug history, but no criminal record. I've smoked pot way more than 15 times, but I wasn't dependent on it. I was also hospitalized one time because I had a bad mushroom trip. How are my chances of becoming a pilot? Would my chances be better if I got a bachelors and commissioned with the air force or navy, or should I look into becoming a warrant officer?

>>30929416
Weapons system officer isn't a role anymore, and weapons system operator is a non-comissioned role so you'd join as an airman then get promoted to sergeant after phase one training. Also Wsop's don't fire any weapons, they're in charge of the equipment in the back of the aircraft.

For pilot and drone you do about 7 hours of tests on a computer, testing for a shit load of things like how quickly you can process information when you're under a lot of pressure (imagine trying to do an air display while someone plays simon says with you and someone else is giving you lists of numbers to remember). There's also things that test your spacial awareness and hand eye foot coordination.
The only stuff you can really prepare for is working out speed/distance/time equations (they're never too have to work out, things always divide into whole numbers) and practice simple division/multiplication as there's a couple tests where they fire sums at you while you're having to concentrate on other stuff.

Wsop's do some of the same tests but they don't do the whole 7 hours since the officers aptitudes test for every officer aptitude branch (i.e. even if you're only applying for pilot you'll still do the tests that relate to intelligence officer)

>>30933429
Dude we already gave you your answer.

You posted in /adv/ too and I said what you need to hear. Anything is possible, don't bank on anything just yet.

Keep cool and wait.

>>30933267
Ya like boats?

>>30933579
Ah, luckily I'm decent at most of that kind of thing already. Thanks for the help anon

>>30933632
Yeah I didn't find any of it too difficult, its just very intense because of the workload and the length of time you're doing it for.
That said, the majority of people there when I did it failed.

>>30933720
Yeah, doing it for 7 hours sounds pretty bad but so is any exam length I guess

>>30933621
Yeah, I like them a lot. Only concern is what it's like to be on one for like the 6 months or so at a time, like what do you do in your spare time?

>>30933944
i have no idea. i joined the raf because i dont want to be on a boat, though raf f35 pilots might still end up on them

Are the initial processing days counting against the 8 and a half weeks of air force bmt? Or do they count that as part of the 8 and a half weeks?

>>30934057
Fair enough. Only real concern is if the people have shit bants or there's not even like a tv

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>>30922303
I've been on that beach.

>>30934072
The military adds the days spent training onto your total contract.

For instance, my contract was for 3 years, 16 weeks when I enlisted. The 16 weeks covered both inprocessing and OSUT.

>>30934072
no, unfortunately. my reception was 12 days long, and that was short compared to some of the others in my bay. if you're going to BCT in the summer, prepare for delays, last minute changes, and general disorder and confusion.

>>30932220

Just how fucking dumb are you that this is even a question?

>>30923275

If there is an appeals process take it. That's always the rule. Your job is to find out if there is one.

>>30922303
>what are some tips and tricks to survive basic
>how hard is the crucible
>does 0311 need security clearance
>what's the shortest amount of time you can enlist for
>were you deployed? If so, how long do you have to stay innasandbox and what's the likelyhood I would too? (Not worried, just wondering)

>>30934307
secondary opinion from a different Marine, former 0311

>>what are some tips and tricks to survive basic
When you get swarmed, keep your bearing.
>>how hard is the crucible
Not hard enough to stop you.
>>does 0311 need security clearance
No, unless you get tagged for something special once you hit the Fleet after SOI. That'll get hashed out later, don't worry about it.
>>what's the shortest amount of time you can enlist for
4 active + 4 inactive. Don't worry about it, just sign up. The time will end up meaning nothing to you.
>>were you deployed? If so, how long do you have to stay innasandbox and what's the likelyhood I would too? (Not worried, just wondering)
Marines are lucky here. We do 6mo deployments. Army mostly gets stuck with fking 12mo's! However, you are very likely to end up in a unit which goes on at least one Marine Expeditionary Unit (aka MEU, you can google either term) in which you will sail from port to port in semi exotic or classy countries, cross training with other units and doing humanitarian missions as needed. I'd estimate that you will do one MEU and one combat deployment. That's a good mix, it's what I did for my first 4 years of active duty and was an excellent mix of life experiences. I went back in for more combat, if that tells you anything. You're probably a little nervous about things but don't worry. Everyone always is, especially about the combat thing. It's actually pretty interesting stuff to experience.

>>30934350
Thank you for answering my questions. To be honest, I'm only really doing it to better myself as a person, and because I have nothing better to do. Typical dead end job and rocky family. Does than make me a scummy person?


I don't plan on officially signing anything until I get my fat ass back in shape. Still have to lose a bit of weight, and get some arm strength. For the 20 pull ups.

>>30934350
>No, unless you get tagged for something special once you hit the Fleet after SOI. That'll get hashed out later, don't worry about it.

Forgot to say too, the reason I ask is because I doubt id be able to get a clearance. I was a real dumbass in my teen years. Fights, blazed it, the typical. I was never arrested or charged with anything however.

>>30934426
They'll just put you in a unit doing regular shit more then likely. If anything the security Check for what he was talking about would be something very low tier like confidential.

I'm going to jump school this weekend, does anyone know if they lock up contraband? Basically I just don't want to throw away my protein and just wanna know if I'll have the opportunity to lock up a duffel bag while I'm there.

>>30932463
Anyone?

>>30934350
100% agree went to IRQ in 07 had a MEU scheduled in 09 but got canceled and sent us to Afgh.

I prefer 6 month deployments. I wouldnt last 14 strait months. F that. Complacency kills.

I got accepted into army OCS any tips or tricks for me guys

>>30937769
realize that a commission doesnt make you shit, knowing what you need to know and being responsible is what gets you respect.

can you become 13-b or ranger with a herniated disc? there is no records, mri was done in another country 2 years ago. Actively fit, run, swim at least 5 miles daily, carry a 40lb backpack every day.

>>30932463
No, you're fine. They are unable to check that kind of stuff. The only problem would be if you used your college transcripts for increased pay.

I would order your transcripts and read them over, checking for some mental health think like that. They probably won't read too carefully but there's no point in making yourself nervous over this.

The key here is to not mention anything. Plus, if you're too scared to lie to a MEPS officer, you probably won't do well getting shot at.

If you don't have insurance, they won't even ask for your medical info. ;)

>>30934418
>I have nothing better to do. Typical dead end job and rocky family.
>Does than make me a scummy person?
That's about half of enlisted. The other half is stupid enough to drink the koolaid.

I recommend you fake it like I do.

>>30938093
Oh, lied to the MEPS officer no problem. I was going to sign my contract, but the lying we bugging me. Also, my MOS would've entailed a polygraph so that was also a worrying factor.

>>30922276
I don't want no druggys in my army, kid.

>>30922372
You want fucked knees for life for an extra $200 a month for a couple years?

>>30937769
please dear lord listen to your NCOs

>>30922914
seal

>>30938418
Additionally, my transcripts do not mention any accommodations.

>>30922914
how is she not bent over nude and panting?

>>30924212
Very high workload every week plus the hardcore hazing that still goes on in subs. But you'll probably get masted at Goose Creek and kicked out before then.

>>30929300
You were horny as fuck from boot camp. They are all fat dogs. Also check SPARTA DUBS

>>30929699
THEY WILL ONLY FIND OUT MEDICAL HISTORY IF YOU HAD TRICARE OR WERE COMMITTED TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL. Every fucking thread has this question.

>>30937834
>OCS
well aware want armor know that they want me to know as much as i can and that the nco runs the platoon day to day. basically plan to show up with fresh willing and able to serve my mens needs

>>30938482
understood sergeant Major the platoon is your platoon understood

>>30930763
Anon, your references said you did drugs.
They are mistaken maam
you know you are commiting a felony if you are lying right
I am aware of law, I never did drugs.
You sure?
Yes
Clearance granted.

Would anyone here with some experience in the field be willing to offer some insight on what it's like to be a Navy Corpsman? I've been thinking about joining and this would probaly have to be my prefered postion, provided I qualify for it of course.

>>30931369
Don't waste your time trying to be medic/corpsman. Look into commision as nurse.

>>30931547
Also easy if fat.

>>30934426

Pot as a teen won't affect a security clearance unless you lie about it. Getting in a fight probably won't either, unless you got arrested for it.

>>30938093

>2skerd2lie

It's honesty that takes bravery, anon. Being a shitbag is easy as fuck.

>>30933472
This - not just cheat, there is something about having a boyfriend/husband in the military that makes them want to get gangbanged by a dozen niggers every night.

>>30938668
For the love of god someone put this in a sticky or something. 100% true. Lie lie lie.

>>30933556
If you can't handle a bad mushroom trip you can't handle being in the military, even as an enlisted pog, much less a fucking pilot.

>>30938680
Corpsman can either go FMF and be cool guys on the ground working with marines in battle or can sit in an office taking blood, dosing out ibuprofen and keeping up medical records either in a cozy office on a ship or on shore. Either one is a pretty good gig. But if you want to go FMF it's not guaranteed you have to be selected. Otherwise you'll enjoy most of your career handing out ibuprofen to sailors bitching about headaches or misdiagnosing real illnesses.

>>30938773
And I wouldn't need any prior medical experience to do either right? All the training I would need I would receive there?

>>30938807
No.

>>30938807
All entry level enlisted jobs will assume you're some moron fresh out of high school who can't even tie his own shoes.

>>30938831
Well that's good I suppose, seeing as how I just so happen to have graduated in June.

>>30938565
my platoon was spartans, and she was hot, i stand by my statement

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>>30933556
Are you me? Same everything except shroom part.

My plan is to lie about drug use. I doubt I will get caught up because it was extremely low key. And everybody I know knows that's not my thing. Will tell them about the underaged drinking If it comes up, so I won't look too suspiciously clean, and maybe a fist fight if it comes up.

The references I will use will be my childhood friends whom are part of an entirely different social circle, 10/10 lads, who don't smoke nor drink, aspirations in law enforcement, etc.

>I was also hospitalized one time because I had a bad mushroom trip.
This is risky bro, I don't know the process but when it comes to medical records, but the general consensus is to tell the truth - coz it's likely they will find out since it's something that is on paper somewhere...

>I want to fly cool shit.
Likewise my man, I'm getting fucking anxious too. My grades aren't too good though, been mostly dicking around at the CC, transferring in about a year for EE. That will give me a clean slate to get that GPA up, coz it's competitive af coz slots are limited for OCS.

But I might just drop out after I get my AA (Physics) within a year. I've been really thinking about becoming a Green Beret (SF).

Decisions decisions...

How would you boys go about getting used to sleep deprivation/no food for sf selection, whilst also being stable enough to continue working through the week.

>>30939243
if you can't do your stupid fast food or desk job while hungry and tired, how well do you think you'll fare when its for real?

>>30939423
I can, but I do sales, and I fuck up my sales pitch when I've had no sleep
But besides that what do you suggest, just literally starving myself of sleep for more days each time and brain games/math?

>>30939499
>>30939243
No, you dont get used to it you just rise to the occasion when its time. You would be far better served to eat healthy food and get a good nights sleep every night while training/working out so you are in peak condition. When the time comes you either meet the challenge or youll fail. Depends how bad you want it. You cant really simulate it. Being sleep deprived while doing sales vs when you are at SFAS isnt the same thing at all. You cant even compare the 2.

I'm in AIT and have the option to submit a packet for airborne in a few weeks. i plan on doing that, but how does one get air assault? is that something I'll have to get at my first unit? will having airborne affect chances positively or negatively for air assault school?
second question, I'm engaged and was planning on getting married after i'm finished with AIT, but now I'm seeing a lot of graduates getting sent to far away countries because they're single. should i just go ahead and get married now? or is there a way to say "hey i know I'm single but not for long" so that they don't send me to fucking korea in the barracks for a year or something? i know its a weird question, just wondering if you guys have ever heard of something like that. who would i talk to, my s2?

>>30941680
Bro i I was you id rethink getting married at all. Being married in the mil is very tough. Chances are when you are in other countries you are gonna wanna have some sex with the locals and when you are away your girl is 99% likely to cheat as well. Id think long and hard about being tied down if i was you. If you are set on it though just do it now. It doesnt have to be a big ceremony just hit the courthouse and make it official. Have the big ceremony with family another time.

so im thinking of joining the airforce security forces. is this a good idea or should i find something else

>>30941790
Do it.

Best job in the air force hands down.

>>30941743
been together a long time, just didn't see the point until the bah and tricare and duty stations started being a part of the conversation. i left her off my sf86 because i don't get along with her parents and i don't want them saying some off the wall shit to fuck up my clearance. if we get married before opm is done investigating, they'd talk to them and I'd have to worry about what they're saying. if i wait, its not as big of a deal if i'm understanding correctly. downside being i get shipped to god knows where for a year or two because i'm single

Any advice to someone joining up as an officer?
Do people know it in basic?

>>30942006
which is the best part of security forces? law enforcement?

>>30942110
the awkward holster on their leg. i wonder how often those m9s or whatever they're issued fall out of them

>>30942110
>which is the best part of security forces?
Getting time to troll /k/, apparently.

>>30942141
not really an answer i was looking for

>>30942151
i fell for something, didnt i?

>>30942185
Listen you idiot, security forces are the shittiest thing you can be. You are a glorified mall cop. Same goes for MP and MA. All you do is check IDs at the gate and take pee cups. DOnt fucking do it.

>>30942107
Shake lots of hands make good grades. Bonus easy mode points if you're a non white or better yet a vagina holder.

>>30942212
desu it doesnt seem too bad

>>30942270
I just dont understand people are warned about these shit MOS and ratings but they do it anyway. Someone has to drink the kool aid i guess

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>>30942290
>mfw people talk about being dead set on becoming, MPs, ANYTHING FUCKING COMMO RELATED, Mechanics, Maintainers, Logistics, Supply, Human Resources, Ordnance, Cooks in these threads

Lmfao so fucking hard. Enjoy working longest hours with the dumbest, fall outs, spergs, women.

>>30929839
And for enlisted?
Just the SF route.
Should I go infantry with option 40 then go for SF after?

>>30942290
from what im reading on other websites it seems like some people really liked it and others really didnt and the job description doesnt sound too bad to me

>>30942290
>>30942353
This
>>30942270
Listen you shithead you are going to be standing at the entrance to a base checking IDs for 8hrs a day for 4 years straight and thats it. No advancement and everyone hates you cause you are out to get them.

>>30942238
>Shake lots of hands make good grades
Well I can do that.

Too bad I'm a white fucking male.

I got good grades and my aptitude testing has come out positive.
I'm just worried that basic will have me eating shit for a couple weeks because of it.

I don't really know if it's segregated or anything.

>>30942356
People that ask whether or not they should do SF usually don't make it.

It's not a course you try and wonder if you want to stick around.

You're going to have to fucking want it.

>>30942388
ok, what do you recommend? i got an 82 on the asvab and i have enough college credits to join as an E3

>>30942439
EOD

>>30942492
is this a real suggestion or are you telling me to kill myself

>>30942439
US ARMY COMBAT MEDIC YOU WONT REGRET IT SOLDIER MEDIC.

LLLLLLOOOUUUD AND THUNDEROUS,

>>30942403
Oh I fucking want it alright. I'm just seeing if there's a certain path to follow. If you read my post again you can see the SF is my end goal.
18X Street to SF just seems rediculous. So I was thinking Infantry, Airborne, Ranger, then SF. It'll all be like one big training session for SF.

>>30941028
Fair, good nutrition and healthy sleeps it is

>>30942588
Airborne Ranger is almost guaranteed as 11A.

None of that shit compares for SF training wise build yourself. ENDURANCE. Start preparing your mind time right now. I'm not telling you to bulk up. You have to be able to take it mentally and physically.

That shit will eat you alive it'll beat you up but you have to keep pushing through. Sometimes Q Course will fail you at the end despite passing everything to see if you'll come back. DONT FUCKING QUIT.

>>30942627
I'm actually a different poster from the guy going officer, I'm going to enlist by December. I'm out of a job so I literally spend all day running and camping in some woodsy areas whenever I take a breather. I want it really fucking bad.
Thanks for the info, bud.

what are some jobs in the airforce that dont suck

>>30942686
Int and Signals.

My pop was MetTech and that was good.

AF is all office jobs.

>>30942439
>>30942524
Are you set on AF or are other branches an option?

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Can one of you guys help me?

When I was 17 I joined the army guard without putting my heart into it.and I got no excuses but I got an ELS for being a bitch nigger. I'm 19 now and I have to reenlist so I can live without the regret of getting kicked out. I wanna join the navy, I know my asvab score is gonna be high enough and I'm fit as fuck. I've been preparing myself for this ever since then.
Please tell me I can reenlist.

>>30942721
what do you do day to day?

>>30942734
im pretty set on AF the only job outside the AF im considering is medic

>>30932220
Who cares? They even got facebook and twatter buttons.

>Anon has liked this agreement.

>>30942798
>im pretty set on AF the only job outside the AF im considering is medic
Ok well look what are you into? What are you looking to get out of the AF? I dont know shit about you so how can i recommend something?
If you want medic similiar but way moer hardcore go PJ.

US army 11b here. Ask away.

>>30942873
How long you been in?
Have you deployed?
If so details.
Did you choose straight 11b or did you fail airborne or something similar?

>>30942867
im still leaning towards security forces but one thing ive been wondering about is becoming a hand to hand combat instructor. it just seems weird to ask about becoming an instructor for the military before im even in it

>>30938591
>commited to a mental hospital
Does seeing a shrink like 14 years ago when I was like 10 or 11 count? I don't even remeber what it was for. I tkb me it was for self esteem issues or something. Had a pretty fucked up childhood. Doesn't bother me though.

>>30942918
Man im telling you that being a Security is a mistake but its up to you.
>>30942959
>That feel when you post in the wrong thread

>>30943000
you might be right but looking on other websites it seems like some people really liked it. so who knows.

>>30943058
>looking on other websites it seems like some people really liked it. so who knows.
What are these "other sites"?
What are they saying they liked about it?

>>30943128
http://www.afforums.com/index.php?threads/is-security-forces-really-that-bad-of-a-job.22973/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/2jpeox/is_being_a_sf_really_that_bad/?st=irpu1vm2&sh=e945ed65

https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/3w9cvq/can_anyone_give_me_positive_experiences_with/?st=irpu2mgb&sh=475a08d1

>inb4 reddit

i was also looking into the mental health service but that job doesnt seem to come up often

>>30943162
>http://www.afforums.com/index.php?threads/is-security-forces-really-that-bad-of-a-job.22973/
Bro they are talking shit about SF and its from fucking 09.
Look man again its your decision but if you think standing gate duty and checking IDs are good stories than i feel really bad for you.

Where does the Coast Guard rank on how easy it is to get in? With Navy being easiest and Marines being Hardest

>>30943360
what about joining without a job? is that a good idea?

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>>30943388
>With Navy being easiest
What? Army is easiest.
>>30943388
>Marines being Hardest
Wrong again, Coast guard is probably the hardest.

>>30943394
For the love of fucking christ no!!!
Dont ever do this, you are treated like a slave and will be thought of as an expendable asset.

>>30943416
i thought they just gave you a list of jobs to pick from towards the end of basic

>>30943444
Bro thats a lie, its possible it may be different for the AF but for the navy it sure as hell aint like that.
Think about it, if it were that good fo a deal than why wouldnt everyone be doing it? Stuff like that suckers you in.
Get everything guaranteed in writing in a contract.

>>30943455
>Get everything guaranteed in writing in a contract.
sounds like good advice. thanks anon

>>30943388
>>30943468
Look no offense but why the hell dont you people read the fucking FAQ link posted in the OP template?
Im spoon feeding you 2 info that is covered in that FAQ. I dont mind cause im bored but you people need to do some serious reading/research before you just ask these basic ass questions. I mean obviously you need to get shit guaranteed in your contract.

>>30943513
you really arent. i appreciate the help but the FAQ really didnt answer any of my questions. im thinking of joining as security forces, people here thinks its a bad idea and now im asking about other jobs

>>30943587
>My recruiter promised me that....
>Stop. Get it in writing in your contact.
From the FAQ
Anyway im just saying that other anon was saying about how hard branches are to get into and the fucking line scores are in the FAQ.
Plus 99% of people ask about admitting drug use which is also covered in the FAQ.
>If they cant prove it, it never happened
>Lie, lie, lie
This shit is simple but people fuck it up anyway.
Anyway again Security Forces is gonna suck but if its what you want go for it. I personally wouldnt but then again i wouldnt join the AF either.

So I know I can't keep firearms with me when I live in base, and have to keep them in the armory. What CAN I keep with me in the barracks though?
Knives? Taser? Baseball bat? Spear? Crossbow?

>>30943763
Yeah keep a fucking arbalest pointed at your DI at all times.
Why not have an explosive trebuchet there too?

Have fucking weapons all the time.
Cuz fucking rax time is meant for waging god damned war on everyone else

>>30943823
Why the fuck are you coming on a weapons board and complaining about people wanting weapons?

>>30943829
Not him but because youre an autistic idiot. Do you really think you can keep a spear in your room?

>>30943841
I don't know. I start basic this month, and am just curious about an aspect of military life. I was under the impression that's what this thread is for.

>>30943823
This is a fucking military thread.

The fuck you think will happen if you have god damned swords under your bunk?

>Well god damned, recruit, you sure love killing people. I have to give you a boost because you've taken initiative

Is that what you expect?

>>30943852
Idiot there are a million things you should be thinking about well before if you can keep a spear in your room. How about you wait till you get till your command and you wait to find out? How the fuck would we know, every base and every building has different rules.
>>30943866
I think you replied to the wrong person.

>>30943866
I was just naming off a few examples of types of weapons that aren't guns, I don't actually plan on keeping a spear. I was mainly interested in knives and tasers, so if I go out on the town I throw something on my belt without having to check my CCW out of the armory.

>>30942943
Seeing a shrink does not count as getting commited.

>>30943401
Navy tattoo policy is easiest, otherwise they are much more selective than army.

will answer questions, mostly army related

>>30943763
You are allowed small knives after basic and probably a baseball bat.

>>30943949
What do you think of officers?

>>30922242
Planning on joining the Canadian forces.

>infantry

Should I even bother with Treudeu incharge?

>>30943961
There's such a thing as Canadian infantry?

>>30943954
Thank you.

>>30943937
thats what i said, cant you read?
>>30943949
Yo, hows stuff been? Do any cool stuff lately?

>>30943955
I'll do my best with this broad ass question.
I've met one weak LT and he was the worst, most incompetent PL I had ever seen. Physically a stud, but he was a bitch and junior enlisted were making decisions because he couldn't.

He also ran over a ~$30,000 pair of Vectors in the field with a Stryker. That was some funny shit.

My current PL is a good man, strong leader. He'll be going to get his tab next spring. My CO is an honorable man, he earned his tab about 5 years ago and led men successfully when he was in the Korengal Valley.

There's good ones and bad ones. If you're an infantry officer you either get your Ranger tab or you don't make it.

>>30943972
Apprently.

>>30943998
Just training. Doing some machine gun shooting tomorrow, that'll be the highlight of the week.

>>30943949
What's it like being a marine?

>>30944038
Neat, any more SF info you might be able to share? Any kind of inside info? Anything you can share about them? Any more personal stories and your interactions with them?

>>30944056
A lot of cock sucking is what I hear

>>30944061
No violating OPSEC. Ask away, I'll answer as best as I can.

>>30944096
>No violating OPSEC.
Calm down captain america, im kidding
Im getting an 18x contract so im just interested in learning literally anything i can from you about 18series guys. Anything at all you feel like sharing, stories, your impressions of them, what type of gum they chew? Ill literally be grateful for anything you can think to share. I dont even know what to ask.

>>30944096
>>30944149
I'm going infantry, but do plan on trying to go SF down the line, so I'd be interested in this too.

Cant wait to join the marines in a month im gonna put a holographic sight on m16 with M203 launcher attachments.

What would you guys put on your guns?

>>30944149
One dude's been with his ODA for about a year and a half, but the other 2 1/2 years he's spent in the army was either in holdover or training. There's a lot of shit to go through to get into SF.

Hope you can physically run 10 miles at a 7 minute mile pace, climb rope like nothing, bench bodyweight + easily, and ruck 12 miles in less than 3 hours. That ain't half the bullshit you'll have to do. A lot of SFAS is what the cadre and peers think of you. I had the chance to meet one of the chief instructors of SFAS a little while ago and the dude gave us the real deal - it ain't what you expect it. You just gotta take it day by day and be the best you can be. Trust is hard to earn, easy to lose.

>>30944191
I'm infantry, it's pretty sweet but 90% of the dudes you'll meet either want out right away or plain don't belong in the infantry. The 10% want to be Rangers, SF, 1SG, Drill Sgts, etc. Stay away from bad apples.

>>30944230
why'd they join if they hate it?

>>30944235
I can answer that. Because they don't know what to expect. They think they know what it's like being infantry, but they don't. Even I going in, having tried to do a lot of research and talk to former/current grunts, know that I don't REALLY know what it's like living as an infantryman, or if I'll like it or not. I THINK I will, but may be wrong.

>>30944235
They're dumb for the most part. Others it wasn't what they expected it to be.

>>30944230
>>30944256
Ive pretty much heard all that physical stuff as well as the character part since there are peer reviews and stuff. Im honestly not worried about that cause thats what everyone says. Im more interested in per se what do the SF guys think about their own jobs?
Do they love being SF?
Does it suck being deployed so much?
is it worth it though?
Once apart of SF where do they go from there?
Are there special assignments even within SF like CIF teams or something?
Whats it like stateside for SF guys?

Any general tips for someone joining infantry and hopefully SF awhile later?

Question;
If I go for some basic infantry tier shit, and don't need a security clearance, do they still intierview people you know? The only reason I Ask is because I don't have many friends or people in my family that think highly of me, so I feel like that would really fuck me over.

The ones that do think somewhat highly of me have seen me at my lowest, so once again, I don't think that would be good either.

>>30944277
>Do they love being SF?
Yeah, they're in it for the career. They love the job and what it entails. It's hard to get there and they stick around for as long as they can. Also until they get MSG or if they become a Zulu they'll be with the same bros for years.

>Does it suck being deployed so much?
Only complaint I've heard is one dude's kid gives their mom a hard time. The dudes don't mind since it's only 6 months.

>is it worth it though?
To the ones who aren't ordinary people, yes.

>Once apart of SF where do they go from there?
I don't understand the question entirely. I've met guys who went CAG, who went black-side SOF. That's as far as I know they can go.

>Are there special assignments even within SF like CIF teams or something?
Yes, but I don't know too extensively. Sometimes ODA's will compete for dudes if they like the way they look.

>Whats it like stateside for SF guys?
They train for 6 months and deploy for 6 months. They've got exclusive ranges and they train with big army units sometimes.

>>30944284
Get immaculately fit, don't be a fuck up, don't be a shitbag. Train for SFAS from the day you decide you want to be SF.

>>30944328
good answers thanks

>>30944328
>Also until they get MSG or if they become a Zulu they'll be with the same bros for years.
Interesting

>The dudes don't mind since it's only 6 months
But isnt the tempo very high? Like 6 months every year?

>>30944328
>To the ones who aren't ordinary people, yes.
This is what im most interested in though, please either add to or dispel this myth. Are they actually that different compared to yourself or the average person? What really sets them apart? For example what are you lacking that they have?

>>30944328
>I've met guys who went CAG
Thats exactly what i meant, can you gimme some details on this, what have your interactiosn with CAG people been like? PLus i thought that was spoopy shit so how do you even know that or is it like an open secret?

>who went black-side SOF
What the hell is that???

>>30944328
>Sometimes ODA's will compete for dudes if they like the way they look
Why though, is one team better than another?

>They train for 6 months and deploy for 6 months.
Whens the break though? Is that 6 months stateside broken up at all to provide downtime?

>>30944360
>But isnt the tempo very high? Like 6 months every year?
I do believe that's how it's done.

> Are they actually that different compared to yourself or the average person?
They're trained differently and they're usually 18x guys or had been in the army for a minute.

>What really sets them apart?
Training, knowledge

> For example what are you lacking that they have?
I don't have the training, and I have not considered going SF. Most people lack the integrity and the 7 core values.

>what have your interactiosn with CAG people been like?
Hanging out with a guy I was gonna escort to the airport, on the ride we talked about the army and I asked what he had done. He was Ranger, went SF, then CAG. He's a quiet dude, works for the govt doing simple shit like camera systems.

> PLus i thought that was spoopy shit so how do you even know that or is it like an open secret?
It ain't that spoopy. CAG selection isn't even as long or demanding as SF selection / school or Ranger school.

>What the hell is that???
Literally the part of the SOF iceberg that's underwater.

>Why though, is one team better than another?
Some ODA's are shitty, that is due to the people in them. They'll either never make E8 or wash out.

>Whens the break though? Is that 6 months stateside broken up at all to provide downtime?
Pretty sure they get a month of leave when they get home, might get a month before deploying, I do not know really.

>>30944404
>They're trained differently and they're usually 18x guys or had been in the army for a minute.
I know that but you made it sound as if they have a 3rd nut thats gives them super powers or something.

>Literally the part of the SOF iceberg that's underwater.
Dude my interest is so peaked. Please tell me more. Is this like some Delta-lite type stuff?

>It ain't that spoopy. CAG selection isn't even as long or demanding as SF selection / school or Ranger school.
Wait seriously?

>>30942771
Please help

>>30944425
>I know that but you made it sound as if they have a 3rd nut thats gives them super powers or something.
They're not the average person.

>Dude my interest is so peaked. Please tell me more. Is this like some Delta-lite type stuff?
I don't know a whole fuckton. The guy I was talking to does CSI combat now. Finger prints, DNA, working with IED's, all sorts of cool shit. He was in Africa for 2 years waiting to infil into a certain country and got just to the border before it got scrapped.

>Wait seriously?
Yes, and it's not just PNN. Like I said, talked to the chief instructor of SFAS. He said it's just a different animal. Ranger school is probably by far the hardest school the army has to offer.

>>30944454
>CSI
Whats that?

>He was in Africa for 2 years waiting to infil into a certain country and got just to the border before it got scrapped
Im sorry for being so ignorant but what does this even mean? He was staioned in africa for 2 years straight and then the program got scrapped?

>PNN
Whats that?

>Ranger school is probably by far the hardest school the army has to offer.
Really? Whys that? Isnt it pretty short?

>>30944468
>Whats that?
You've never seen CSI Miami? DAMN DUDE.

>He was staioned in africa for 2 years straight and then the program got scrapped?
Yes, they were training and basically sitting on the border of a country waiting to infil at any moment. He said that he was sitting in a UH60 banking into said country as the whole shabang got called off. He said other SOF units were making a mockery of his unit because white-side was doing more dirty shit than black-side.

>What's that?
Private News Network. The gayest, most bullshit gossip that starts in BCT / OSUT and doesn't ever, ever end.

>Really? Why's that? Isn't it pretty short?
Almost all Rangers will recycle at least one phase. Overall it's a 61 day school, but imagine living on 2 MRE's a day, rucking 20 hours a day, and sleeping 1-3 hours a night if you're lucky. For 61 days. Mix in the whole stress of needing to pass peers, cadre, and patrols. That ain't half the BS in it.

>>30944481
>You've never seen CSI Miami? DAMN DUDE.
Oh, and wtf that shows trash.

>>30944481
>Yes, they were training and basically sitting on the border of a country waiting to infil at any moment. He said that he was sitting in a UH60 banking into said country as the whole shabang got called off. He said other SOF units were making a mockery of his unit because white-side was doing more dirty shit than black-side.
Wow thats fucking nutz holy shit.

Man this is good info.

Lets says a person goes this black side route, whats the benefit?
More money?
Faster promotions?
Why would someone switch over to that?
How would you even switch, do you volunteer or something?

>>30924946
More than 13:36 if I remember correctly.

>>30944514
Most of those questions you'll just have to face personally. Maybe we'll meet someday in SF but that'll be a loooooong time from now.

>>30944572
Word, well thx either way man. Im going to go and get a contract once the new fiscal year kicks in so we'll see.

Is normal infantry school harder than basic?

>>30944888
osut is permanent red phase until the last couple of weeks, BCT is only really "hard" the first couple of weeks if you're out of shape or timid.

>>30944888
OSUT is BCT+. You get all the same shit as everyone in BCT, and then a few more weeks.

Everyone else goes to AIT though, so which is "harder" depends on how much you hate TRADOC.

>>30942721
>AF is all office jobs.
That's bullshit.

>>30944202
You don't get to choose What you put on your rifle. Or what you want to carry. In the Marines.

>>30944202
Plz be a joke...

>>30942867
I feel sorry for this guy
>I am looking at joining the USAF
>Hey a couple of threads about Security forces being sorta okay
*SF comforting each other and pointing out the few times they actually enjoyed their jobs*
>Literally everyone knows SF sucks and nearly 90% of the jobs the push on people is SF
>Even that faggot youtuber Onision knows this(Was surprised to find he was in the military)
Then this>>30943394

I am not even in the AF and I've done more research
My plan is to join after I get my AAS in EE. Try and use the GI bill to pay off the rest of my degree and get my loan forgiven.
Any body know about the loan forgiveness in the usaf?

Also I really can't find the right job because most jobs look like they only transfer over to low level blue collar work in the civilian world.
I was looking at RF trans. Heard it kinda sucked but compared to some of the others it stands out. The other would be avionics

>tl;dr
Tell me about
RF trans
Avionics
3D1X4
1N5X1 / 1N4X1

Basically anything close to Electrical engineering.


P.S I had an edible weed brownie and got high off my ass once. What do? I am wondering how hard a lie detector test would be to pass for Security clearance
Also I have no friends, know no one in my neighborhood and basically a shut-in. I don't even know my next door neighbor
How fucked am I for getting a security clearance?
>>30943587
>im thinking of joining as security forces
I can't even even right now

will answer general army questions

>>30946085
Don't lie on your lie detector test about anything. Secret clearance is given out like candy, few people lose them or don't get them. Top Secret is another animal, they'll interview your ass and 9 random people around the country / world you pick as a reference. They'll find shit you're trying to hide if you're trying to hide something.

>>30946124
Is TS just as anal in reserves as it is in active duty?

>be me
>want too be muhreen and do muhreen stuff
>have sick grandparents
>would kick myself in the ass the rest of my life if I wasn't there when one or both of them passed away. (Like if I was at boot or deployed)
Wut do?

>>30946301
What would your grandparents rather have you be doing?

>>30946085
>Tell me about
>RF trans
>Avionics
>3D1X4
>1N5X1 / 1N4X1
I've been avionics (worst of the 5 AFSs I've had) and RF Trans (2nd worst). I'm in an intel unit now and I see what 1N4s/1N5s do. I'd do that any day over avionics/satcom.

Don't know about spec ops. Never dealt with it.

Currently 3D1X2 master race.

>>30946085
>use the GI bill to pay off the rest of my degree and get my loan forgiven
one or the other

>>30946334
They don't really care what I do. I haven't told anyone in my family I'm thinking about enlisting. But in general they're pretty chill about my life choices

>>30946364
>>30946364
>>30946364

>>30946343
>RF Trans (2nd worst). I'm in an intel unit now and I see what 1N4s/1N5s do. I'd do that any day over avionics/satcom.
How bad is RF trans(3D1X3). I heard they mostly update software and stare at screens idly

Elaborate on 1N4 / 1N5


>3D1X2 master race
^this seems like a great one but more on the CS rather than EE which is what I am into (Hardware)
How great is the job and is there anything like that closer to electrical engineering?

>>30946427
I was RF Trans for less than a year.

The job included:
1. Fucking with RF trailers/antennas (this was a while back, so I don't remember the name of the antenna.. but that trailer was a pain in the ass)
2. Sitting in the freezing ass cold in the HF van writing down HF broadcasted alphanumerics (some guy saying Alpha, Whiskey, Seven, Yankee, etc., etc. for hours for an exercise and you had to write it down).

As for 1N4, what I've seen is:
1. Look at signals, forward certain ones to 3 letter agency
2. Open up a window, capture text and forward it somewhere

What I've seen of 1N5s:
1. Get linguist/elint generated products
2. Correlate with other intel
3. Analyze
4. Forward to customers / post to databases
5. Also, make ppts

Yes, Cyber Transport is more CS than EE.

Most of the EE-related fields are dumbed down so much, you aren't going to learn anything past what they teach in Electronic Principles (now IT fundamentals). So you might as well just go Cyber Transport, since they get EP.

If you want real Electrical Engineering, you're going to want to find a college program for that. Job skills training in the AF is very basic. It's made for tards, because most actually smart people wouldn't put up with this shit for long.

>>30946546
Thanks for the clarification. Heard RF trans transfers over to the civilian world well so I'll still keep it as a 2nd option

1N4 / 1N5 looks alright but not my thing

Cyber transport seems like my best bet (But I personally avoid CS like the plague because its oversaturated and I don't like using a terminal that much). But it would be my first choice and RF Trans being a close second

>Job skills training in the AF is very basic. It's made for tards, because most actually smart people wouldn't put up with this shit for long.

I started to realize that when I was looking at most of the jobs. Some of the IT stuff has a great name behind it but most people come out doing something like Helpdesk.

>>30946349
>About to go to college in the next week
>To completion of a 2 year degree I would have to borrow 15k
>About to go 15k deep and find out its one or the other loan forgiveness or GI bill

>getting a 4 year would require more loans
>Couldn't find a job for the past 6 months

Man I wish I just joined the AF right out of High school when I was more fit. Then again I would have probably ended up in security forces like all the other guy I know who joined

It's best to join strait out of high school. Unless you go officer.

I signed when I was 16(usmc) turned 17 in boot camp got out when I was 21. Used gi bill got a degree at 26. Now self employed.
I wouldnt join the military after 22 youll get out at 26-27 starting all over. unless you plan on being a lifer.

>>30942353
>Hating on the people who keep the military running
Hey look guys, I found a marine!