Redbull me on different FAL makes/manufacturers and their positives/negatives.

you'll have to mess with the gas regulator if you constantly change ammo. early CAI guns had issues with feed, something to do about mis-machined receivers, they've fixed that since then, but you know, "century". I've heard mixed things about DSA in the last couple years, but I think they're getting better(?). A cast receiver will last longer than you will. unless you expect to shoot 20k rounds a year, in which other shit will most likely fail before the receiver.(DSA Voyager series).

>>30919701
Yeah I too would like to know how to into fal. Been eyeing one for awhile. Just as long as its not century.

>>30919832
To be fair 'messing with the regulator' is only rotating the little wheel till it works, which isn't a huge deal

>>30919832
Not op but in the same boat, been thinking about getting a DSA just to get a battle raifu before the election fuckery drives the prices up for the next 2 years or so.

Is the Voyager trash? Should I just go with a ptr91 instead?

>>30919922
century rifle's aren't THAT bad. the newer ones (2012+, FAL G1 with the club foot stock) are actually not that bad. only issue I had was the flash hider came loose after 40rnds. fixed with blue loctite. other than that, it shot perfect right out of the box on the first gas setting. to be honest I think the only time you'd have to dick with the regulator is if you do a serious jump across bullet weight and between 7.62x51 and .308 loads.

>>30920041
it's not, faggots on here keep thrashing it because it's cheaper, has a cast receiver, and has no carrying handle cut out. but good modern castings are actually pretty good. and the rifle will out last the life span of the average shooter. PLUS you're supporting THE only company that currently manufactures replacement parts for FAL's. why do you think the Africans are going to them for parts, rebuilds, and new guns?

do it.

>>30919922
In my experience Century rifles are either lemons or fine. It's the luck of the draw. The odds are statistically your side but do you really want to take the risk? It's up to you

>>30920041
Lots of people believe the G3 is very uncomfortable to shoot. If you can you should try one out before you buy it, sight unseen, on the internet

the voyager is definitely not trash

>>30920140
can verify this, FAL shoots WAY softer than a G3 variant. at the time I had a 11.5" AR and I swear it had a harsher recoil than my FAL G1 did. I could shoot that thing all day without problem.

>>30920140
G3 very comfy to shoot for me. I'm 5'9".

>>30920140
>the G3 is very uncomfortable to shoot
That, the controls (I'm a turbomanlet) and the aesthetics were driving me toward the FAL. The HK slap looks fun but BHO is more familiar to me and all these other things definitely mean the fal is the way to go.

>>30920140
>>30920132
Thanks, really just wanted to know what kind of corners they cut to get the price down. It sounds like it is still a solid rifle and that is really all that matters to me.

>>30919701
The real question is what barrel length?

>>30920368
Second

>>30920368
theres ~300 fps difference between .308 in a 16.5in and 28in barrel. the point of diminishing returns is after 20 inches.

>>30920435
I usually see 21 and 18 inch styles. Which is the most reliable.

>>30920140
>>30920085
I already got burned with a 74 sporter that had a tight bore and needed a refund.

>>30920441
Yes

>>30920240
OP here I was considering G3 myself but I'm also completely lacking in testosterone aside from what my adrenals put out, there really isn't much muscle at all to me. I've already got a .308 bolt action and it bruises the shit out of me. I still can shoot it but every bit of comfort helps my enjoyment at the range and innawoods.

>>30920140
So basically, if one were to get a century one, and it weren't a lemon, it'd be totally fine and functional? I don't really care about having le ebin top of the line best gun ever, I'm still willing to put more out for something better than a century, but if a century will cut it then I wouldn't mind going with that.

Do they have any sort of guarantee? Like if I end up with a lemon will they make it right?

>>30919701
DSA, Imbel, Coonan

Avoid Hesse like the plague, Century unless it has an Imbel receiver

>>30919832
>you'll have to mess with the gas regulator if you constantly change ammo
that's true for ALL FALs, not manufacturer specific

>>30920085
Century hasn't made FALs since early 2000s

>>30920441
that's what gas regulators are for

>>30920882
any battle rifle will recoil less than a bolt gun because of weight, but the FAL does recoil less

>So basically, if one were to get a century one, and it weren't a lemon, it'd be totally fine and functional?

Technically yes, but a lot of Century guns have dumb ban era parts you'd have to change out

And no, Century doesn't make FALs anymore, so you're shit out of luck if it's fucked

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>>30920882
I own the Century R1A1. Its one of the newer made ones from new Imbel receivers, and has a Styr barrel. Rest of rifle is made from a combination of mil surplus from around the world, and new US made parts. It is absolutely the best rifle i have ever handled. Anyone who i let shoot it tells me they would trade their AR AK G3 M1A ect in a heartbeat for it. The range master at the range i shoot CMP matches at asked if it was a real Belgium FN because it shot, handled, and felt better than any FAL clone hed ever shot. Ive heard bad things about the older Century rifles, but a few thousand rounds later, the one i have has been perfect so far. Its picky as to which magazines it will take, but i know how to spot the right ones when i go to the gun show.

>>30920997
>because it shot, handled, and felt better than any FAL clone hed ever shot.

Then he's handled some shitty FALs

I'd put my Imbel receivered Enfield kit L1A1 up against it any day

> Its picky as to which magazines it will take

DSA mags don't fit in inch magwells

Can someone just do a Tl;DR and recommend me like 3 different models for me to check out? Price isn't really a factor for me.

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>>30921031
Mine is a metric receiver. Its these locks on the back that are the issue. The DSA mags work great.

>>30921091
DSA
DSA
DSA

You're not going to find others because no one manufactures them anymore

Check FALfiles or look into building your own

>>30921092
>R1A1
>upper isn't cut for inch mags

r u dum

take a picture of the front of your magwell

>>30921118
Please refer to my last post. Thanks.

>>30921134
>R1A1
>metric

These aren't the same thing

>>30921147
No, the newer Century R1A1 is a metric Imbel receiver, and uses metric mags. The older shit Century rifles made from wherever they could get parts, were typicaly made from a combination of inch and metric parts and used commonwealth inch pattern magazines.

>>30921187
give me a picture of your magwell

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>>30921194
First things first.

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>>30921212
>>30921233
gg Century you stupid fucks

>>30921118
Shouldn't an R1A1 be metric though? The real R1 was metric.

>>30921246
I dont follow

>>30921258
Older ones no. Newer ones yes. Century has had a very rough and confusing time with these rifles.

>>30921258
R1A1 has always been a Century thing

>>30921263
They used the same receiver and put two different kits on them

R1A1 is a play off L1A1

>>30920480
>>30920989
Inch pattern nor metric?

>>30921288
So your saying mime is a bastard child mixed race baby? It has feelings you know. I will say this, i am the 4th owner that i know of who has had this rifle. Someone somewhere may have done some altering, i nust dunno. But from my research, everything is spot on for a factory Century.

>>30921316
yes, don't get either

>>30921327
the inch magwell is larger, no chance to modify it

They just left the name on it and changed the specs like a bunch of drunken monkeys

>oh wait it's Century

>>30921346
It was a typo, which is better logistically.

>>30921346
Thats kinda what ive been saying this whole time. Century has changed the entire rifle multiple times over the course of its life, but always called it the R1A1. They use whatever they can get their hands on. Early rifles were mostly Canadian, Argentine, & Indian from what ive read. Later ones were usualy either American or Brazilian, with stocks, sights, gas tubes, bolts ect from all over the world, whoever would sell them the cheapest. Everything ive read though, says the Imbel receiver Centurys made at the end of the rifles run were by far the best, partly cause they were using better psrts, and partly cause the more time went on the better they got at making these rifles.

>>30921416
they both work fine
Inch can take metric mags as long as they aren't DSA, but that means you're stuck buying Korean (which surprisingly work fine) or surplus

Inch also have different sights, charging handle, mag release, etc

It all depends on what you want

Metrics are more common, but it's not like the shit breaks, so it doesn't matter

Besides as a curiosity, or if your just a collector and want another type of rifle in the vault, theres no point in owning a relic like the FAL.

the design, and cartridge are terribly outdated.

>>30921447
Yeah, I didn't know about the other stuff, I was more concerned with mag availability.

Where did the FAL Carbines come from, some plant or licensed manufacturer outside of Belgium or did FN design that one themselves?

>>30921477
Go here and stay here
>>30920720

>DA ONLY REZUN TUH BUY A GUN IS ITS CUMBAT AFFECTIVNUS

>>30921490
gonna need more info than that

>>30921477
.308win is the most versatile, and one of the most common hunting cartridges in the world. How is that outdated. The FAL design is definately old, but its an amazing design tnat has proven itself literally all over the world for a very long time. Just cause its old doesnt mean its no good.

>>30921477
I like how they look and they put holes in things. Make dealenings.

>>30921502
He's gonna tell you .338 lapua is the only viable hunting round

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>>30921526
Well damn, he may be right...

If we were hunting a fucking cape buffalo

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>>30921526
"let me tell you about superior 7.7 jap"

>>30921477
The last moose I killed didn't seem to notice I was shooting him with an ancient, outdated round that basically is so bad you may as well be holding a stapler instead of a firearm.

Must have died from placebo, rather than being shot through the lungs.

>>30920132
I remember always asking on here, outside of no carry handle cut and cast reciever, what problems the voyager has.
Either no one responds or one person repeating those same points.

>>30921555

Lo Pan gtfo

Billy Boy isn't here it's not time for WWZ

>>30921665
there's nothing wrong with them
They wouldn't sell them if there was a glaring problem

Cast is nearly identical to billet in all but cost

You suck and I hate you. Go read some old threads. There is no new info to give you. The entirety of the info on these basically awesome but discontinued rifles is available online. You better expect to pay a premium if you want your shit to work if you cheap out you suck and I hate you you will get laughed at in every thread and will make these beautiful rifles look bad I wish a monobrow feedramp on you.

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>>30921585
>The last moose I killed

To be fair, moose are just as outdated.

>>30922091
>those teeth

Why are Asians in Britain

I dont mean to thread jack, but what's /k/'s consensus on the M1A?

>>30922147
Works fine
Best bet is the Loaded
National Match and Super Match are stupid because while they may be accurate, you're going to do the same for less and even better for less going with something else

That said I want a Super Match to make my Highschool of the Dead fantasy come true

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>>30919701
>FAL with PSG stock

>>30922147
Overpriced for the performance and build quality. However, it's a fun gun. Won't hold it against you if you have to have an M14 clone, but if you're looking for a general .308 semi auto you're better suited looking for something else.

>>30922299
>Won't hold it against you if you have to have an M14 clone
>clone

My FAL clone and my AR clone go really well with my Hi Power clone and 1911 clone
Figured I'd take my Mauser clone out to the range tomorrow along with my Mosin Nagant clone

>>30922091
you didn't know?
Japanese in general has bad teeth..Even worse they rarely use braces to fix their crooked teeth...

>>30920132
eat shit. using your logic he should buy the PTR as its better and the company left its anitgun shithole for freer lands

>>30921105
shit
shit
shit

ARS has parts kits for $500ish and a group buy for imbels on the files will set you back 475. youll have a proper imbel, legit-not-a-bastard-non-mil-spec-dsa-chicago-way-sketchy-bs, fal

For FALs your only real options are DSA or DSA voyager if you're cheap.
G3? PTR91 all day, especially now that you can get an A3R with a paddle release. Century if you're cheap and feel lucky.
For M14s most practical option is M1A, or JRA if you can spend 2k or LRB if you have bottomless pockets.
AR10 builds run the gambit from cheap but sketchy as fuck kit builds to insanely expensive shit like LaRue and LMT. M&P10 is a solid all-rounder. DPMS pattern builds are the way to go.
If you feel really cheap Zastava M77 is only like 600$ and can take converted M14 magazines. Basically a .308 AK. Also, along the same lines but not as cheap, VEPR.
If money is absolutely no object SCAR-17 with a Schmidt & Bender on top.

>>30922284
I just posted the first pic I saw on google with multiple FALs in it kek
>>30921802
Suck my limp dick :3
>>30922373
I have a friend whose mother cloned one of his dogs, payed like $50k for it IIRC. Creepy as fuck.
>>30923011
I'm thinking I'll probably go with DSA but I'm still weighing my options, I've got some time before I go buy it anyway.

>>30922847
But the ptr is an inferior firearm

>>30924761
every firearm is inferior to something else

>>30919701
Do yourself a syrupy sweet favour, and get a C1A1, for me. I can't get one here. They have cold hammer forged barrels, and come from a prestigious line of Canadian Rifles from Long Branch Arsenal. Please honour my country's rifle, cause we are banned from doing so here. FN FALs and any "variants" are banned by name.

>>30922635
Actually crooked teeth are fashionable in Japan.

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>>30919701
The length of your shorts matters most desu senpai.

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>>30925085
Do I need shorter?

>>30921500
Shit nigger I don't know, that's why I'm asking about them?

>>30922864
Except DSA has all milspec new production parts

Keep spouting bullshit

By the time you're done building that kit you'll be out $1300

>>30925146

Yes. Cut the legs up to 1cm below where your pockets are. You have to go right up to the border without crossing into Daisy Dukes territory.

>>30921147

My R1A1 is also metric. Very early build (four digit serial) complete STG 58 parts kit used.

>>30925203
Is it hard to find milsurp Rhodesian short-shorts or a reproduction?

>>30925219
>>30921288
What if it says l1a1 sporter with a folding charging handle

>>30925167
Are you talking paras, 16s, 18s, 11s, 7s, what
What qualifies as a carbine to you

>>30922102
nippos have some FUCKED up teeth. they're literally the Britain of Asia

>>30925276
Inch kit and likely a hybrid receiver