Canada General

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>>30890018
First for incredibly stale canada bread.

>>30890018
How are the new XCRs? Do they still have cycling issues with steel cased ammo? I'm thinking of getting one with a full-length keymod handguard, but if it's not reliable I'll go with an MR1 or something, it's cheaper anyway.

What's the difference between the Vz 58 and the Cz 858? I remember hearing somewhere that the RCMP tried make them restricted or prohibited(Can't remember which it was) for reason.

I'm interested in getting one of the two rifles, and there's a used cz 858 near my for like 1195 and a Vz 58 for 1200.

>>30890478
Get a CSA Vz 58. It wasn't banned by the RCMP. I don't want to buy it or a Swiss Arms in case they get banned again.

>>30890584
yeah, That's my concern as well. I'd rather not have to give it to the cops in the future if the decide to prohibit it.

>>30890603
I've also heard the CSA models are better than the 858's and the 2008s, but I've only ever actually fired the Vz 58 from CSA. If you get the version chambered in .223 you can get the AR magwell adapter, it'll let you use .50 Beowulf and LAR mags (steel magazines only though).

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I recently picked up a Tula SKS from my local Cameroonian Tire. Is it worth modifying in any way to turn into a poor man's scurry salt rifle? I was thinking of getting a 20 round mag, polymer stock, and slapping a scope on the end in a scout rifle style.

I've heard modifying SKSs is kind pointless and actually makes them less effective, is this true? Should I just stick with the factory sertup?

>>30890698
>I was thinking of getting a 20 round mag
Pinned to 5 rounds. So tactical.
The scout setup isn't a bad idea. I've actually wanted to do that with my own for quite some time. But it might be wise to practice on the factory stock for a while, get used to the rifle before turning it into an ebin death machine.

>>30890018
Is it possible to find an SKS-D in Canada?
Been looking around but can't find shit.

So I heard /k/anucks enjoy Brownies?

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Is pic related literally us but with the RCMP and all of our bullshit laws?

>>30890698
You can get a G9 magwell adapter for the SKS that lets them take XCR magazines. Last round hold still works, clips still work, magazines are now removable and 10 round-legal.

>>30890848
>Pinned to 5 rounds. So tactical.
They don't have power tools where you're from?

>>30891623
but that would be illegal :^)

>>30891623
No sir, officer sir, I've never even seen a power tool!

Besides all the power tools at work in the RCMP, of course.

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>>30891430
Pretty much

>>30890478
CSA va 58 are new production american made semi auto only rifles.

CZ 858 are Czech rifles made on for the most part unused surplus receivers quite a few models are legit made on converted full auto receivers(as in 12.3 banned). Which is why the RCMP came after only certain models.

>>30890848
I'd like an SI mount for a scout setup, replacement sights, and a John Masen mag. Otherwise, I wouldn't change much.
>>30890996
It's just difficult. Maybe post an ad on the EE?

>>30890996
Theres a reason theyre hard to find anywhere, your trading classis sks quality and reliability just for muh ak mags, my friend had one that was so poorly fitted there was a 5mm gap between the mag and front mag catch so it wouldn't latch properly

>>30890996
There are usually a few SKS-D on the EE but make sure they are true SKS-D and not SKS-KD or other conversions before dishing out money.

The easiest way to tell is looking at the magwell if there is a gap between the metal magwell and the wood it is a conversion.
Also all true SKS-D are Norinco any russian or yugo ones are conversions.
If you see one that looks like an SKS-D with a monte carlo stock theres a chance its an SKS-M.

>>30892067
So not all 858's are the same model? There was one on Used Firearms.ca that I was looking at getting, I think it was an 858-2 or something like that.

>>30892184
Yeah there are a many models the "Tactical-2" version i think was one listed in the ban. I'll post the old ban list when I find it.

>>30892200
I'd pull up the ad to double check but the website's down.

>>30890698
You can buy guns at Canadian tire?

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>>30892200
Ok the models affected by the previous ban also the models built on F/A recievers are any of the following proofed after 2007
CZ 858 tactical 2P
CZ 858 tactical 2V
CZ 858 tactical 4P

>>30892250
Yep many Canadian tires do have firearms, some in larger cities do not however.

>>30891993
I don't know if I'm meant to stick that up my butt or in someone's mailbox, anon.

Explain your image.

>>30892292
Looks like 3 tubs of tannerite/thundershot/binary explosive taped together.

>>30892292
>>30892301
I could post a explanatory image but id literally get v&

>>30892349
>Not using the superior the maglite and freezer plug method

>>30892250
In Toronto, no. Once you get north of Barrie, you start seeing ammo in the hunting/fishing section. Parry Sound/Gravenhurst is where you start seeing racks full of fudd guns.

>>30892286
Huh, I assume since the ad said Non restricted that it's probably not one of those versions (I hope).

>>30892184
>Usedfirearms.ca
Would not trust/10
Pretty much everything outside the CGN EE is sketchy as fuck and full of scams

>>30892918
It looked legit, everyone who dealt with him had given good reviews, and none of his images were ripped from Gun broker.

Hypothetically, cutting down a shotgun barrel, recrowning it, and slapping a new bead sight on is totally illegal, correct? Even if, say, the barrel is damaged near the tip?

>>30893281
Can't cut it shorter than 18.5"

Last thread I posted about how I'd ordered 4 SVT-40s, and how I have one already.

If one of these SVTs were in rough shape, I was thinking about cutting it to make a carbine SVT-40. I have experience with making my own gas blocks and getting semi-auto actions to run well. It wouldn't be a kitchen job. I'm a little conflicted, half of me wants to keep them all authentic, the other half wants a carbine version if one of the SVTs happen to be beat up.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10930843/r

>>30892888
Well they have been moved back to NR for now so yeah it could be a former prohib.

>>30893281
Down to 18" yes just remember if its semi under 18.5" is restricted.

>>30893366
You dont need to cut it to make a carbine just take the muzzle break/gas assembly off and go from there.

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>>30893366
Here's what it would hopefully look like.

>>30893624
>muzzle break/gas assembly off
Shit you're right, that would make the project easier.

Has there been any update on the Kel Tec RDB? It looks like a good rifle, Kel Tec's reputation notwithstanding.

>>30893626
If you get one that's particularly beat to shit, carbine it. They're your guns anon, do what you want.

>>30893733
Its without a doubt sitting in the classification lab and probably will be for a while.
Not a terrible thing gives time for kel-tek to actually build up some stock of extra rifles.

>>30893322
>>30893519
It's a pump-action, and would not go below 18in. I just want to make sure it's actually legal to do so, since sawn-offs are Prohibited.

>>30895159
You can buy a 12" barrel. If it's factory made, it can be short as long as the OAL is enough.

>>30895197
It wouldn't be "factory made", but if anyone asked, I can just say I bought it that way. I'm not going below 18, anyway.

>>30893733
>>30893770
If it ever gets released, they have my money. Been thinking of getting a bullpup for a while now.

I am not buying a T97 nor a Tavor. I would rather by a PS90 or FS2000 before I even go down that path.

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>>30890652
>>30890584
>>30890478
Whats the word on a CZH2003? They are on an ex-full auto-receiver, any one familiar with these? Basically earlier version cz2008s?

>>30893366
Do it. Make one a fun gun shooter, that if worst case you use for parts for the other 4 good ones in the future

Anyone know approx. value of a late fall production 1941 poldolsk svt40 forced match single small stock repair with 6-cut muzzle & railed receiver, no notch, all parts & bore excellent

>>30895835
bout tree fiddy

but on the CGN EE the same rifle goes for 800 or so

>>30895624
If you get a ps90 convert it to 22mag for unlimited mag capacity.

>>30895835
Century's infamous difficulties were with their earlier batch of 2008s, there are no similar problems with the recent one.

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>>30892566
Fuck, I hate living in Toronto so much. Outright banned gun ranges too. Can't wait to finish school and escape this librul containment zone.

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>>30895857
>goes for 800 or so
Glad to know thx

It's an absolute beauty, still in a thin film of cosmoline, not thinking of parting with it, just

got lucky when i grabbed it online I guess, ended up getting a late model from a top arsenal, not bad for 440 shipped after taxes

>>30895894
I'm talking about the czh2003, think they came early 2000s, haven't seen much info about them online

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>>30890996
why though? for the amount of money you will pay for it, you might as well get the glorious Type-81

>>30896434
>tfw ordered and payed for T81 ages ago
>tfw checking T81 thread hoping to see updates

WHEN

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Nogunsyet that just finished the CFSC.

I've heard you can send the PAL application in before you get your test results back, just to get the waiting period rolling, then fax the test results in once you get them. Is that true? What exactly do I need to do?

>>30896434
For roughly $200-300 more, I can get a vz 58.

I'd rather get a rifle that people are already familiar with, than beta-testing a Chinese rifle that only very few people have handled before.

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>>30896806
post pics and videos when you get it, eh

I really hope all you brave souls who jumped on the first order will be satisfied and they flood the market, drop the price, offer aftermarket tacticoolness, and most importantly bring in the Type-81's busty older sister
>picrelated

>>30896851
This is true. The 28 day waiting period starts when they recieve your application. So you can mail your application first and I would attach a separate piece of paper saying you are going to fax in your CFSC when you recieve it.

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>>30896873
fair enough, but keep in mind, Type-81 came about as a superior replacement to the AK, the Chinese liked it THAT much
it was made in the 80s, with a lot of time to study the VZ, various variants of AK and the old faithful SKS
and after trying out the QBZ-95 for a while, many parts of their military are moving back to the Type-81
>not a new design, they have been making it right for decades
>they like it more than their old rifle, which is the based AK
>they like it more than their new rifle, which is the pretty good as bullpups go QBZ-95

tl;dr: this is hardly beta-testing a heavily altered version of a still new and little-tested firearm, like in the case of Type-97

>>30896908
Fax it where though? I don't see an actual fax number anywhere. And the application just asks "have you completed the safety course" yes or no.

>>30897019
Don't forget there has been ~20 type 81s circulating in the US for the past 20 years.
Any major problems would have been talked about.

>>30897019
now where would one be able to pick up a t-81? it looks glorious desu senpai, but its probably going to cost alot right?

I'm still having huge doubts that the Type 81 will arrive by the proposed deadline, with the lack of promised factory tour updates and all. Guess I shouldn't be complaining though, gives me time to save up for when/if they actually get here.

>trusting your life to an item 'made in china'
Y'all are braver than me. I'd spend the extra couple hundred and get some czechnology tbqh

>>30897605
I would sooner trust a Chinese rifle than an American rifle that was raped by Germans, advertised as Italian, and sold by some asshole Canadian.

>>30897640
>an American rifle that was raped by Germans, advertised as Italian, and sold by some asshole Canadian.
kek what gun are you describing there m8?

>>30897650
Marstar's "Garand T-2"

It was supposedly an M1 Garand modified to shoot .308 instead of .30-06. Apparently, the Italian military used to use these, and they were manufactured by Beretta and Breda.

That was how they were advertised.

What they actually were are in fact crudely mickey-moused modifications done in some German guy's garage. They may or may not have the Cologne Proof House's official stamp falsified.

A lot of Marstar's customers got burned by this "deal," and many of them have concluded that they're actually DANGEROUS to shoot. The owner of Marstar is refusing to own up, and is resorting to shitposting individual users, instead of actually addressing the problem.

He is giving refunds, but only for the rifles themselves. He's making his customers eat the shipping costs.

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>>30897295
Tactical Imports is the only game in town at the moment and that is a pre-order where you pay full price of $999 (and get a choice of fixed or folder stock + pretty sweet pricing on extra mags)

if you are willing to wait, it will most likely be landing early this fall, if it's on time, or winter (if this >>30897417 anon is correct about the lateness) and then most likely other retailers will pick it up and it'll drop in price within a year or so, much like Type-97 did, even despite the plunge of maple peso

I'm hoping we end up getting the tacticool .308 version, which should be next on the list for any sane importer and since it's literally just an upscaled Type-81 with rails, so shouldn't take forever to get approval
>tacticool, affordable, reliable semi-auto .308
>oh senpai, OH SENPAI!!!

>>30895899
come to based calgary anon :3

we have 2 indoor ranges right innacity and then a bunch no more than an hour outside city limits

>>30897764
Yeesh that sounds terrible, I was told years ago to just avoid Marstar, sucks to hear they're still as bad as ever

And yes in that case, hell i'd trust a dominion arms then over that frankstein butcherjob for a gun, sounds like many M1s were ruined in the process too, rip

Any BCfags know where I can (locally) buy handsoap for removing lead/heavy metals?

This shit is hard to find for some reason. FOC actually sells it, but they're in Ontario, and the shipping to BC costs more than the products themselves.

>>30898054
idk about heavy metals but this is the type of soap they stocked at my summer job in a manufacturing plant

http://www.uline.ca/BL_6969/Industrial-Hand-Soap

for everything else i use turpentine

I'm leery of letting my collection become too Chinese, lads, but want a decent entry-level AR in the near future. Are there any Western companies that approach Norc price while retaining quality?

>>30897773
Or that FNC-looking .223/5.56 rifle, that would be cool too

>>30898275
Not at all. Just get a DA556

>>30898390
I just REALLY don't want a good chunk of my collection to be chinkshit, regardless of their quality. It seems wrong somehow.

>>30898407
Me personally, I avoid buying Chinese firearms because I want to move to Arizona someday, and the US has a hateboner for Chinese and Russian firearms.

It's bad enough that I would have to leave my nugget and SVT behind, so I don't really want to buy another firearm I can't bring, if I really do end up moving to the US.

>>30895870
Doesn't exist. CMMG tried to make a drop in kit that used 10/22 rotary 10 rounders that became vaporware.

>>30898491
Wait, we couldn't bring our Russian stuff over the border?
I thought if it was out of the country of origin for a long time it was exempt from sanctions and shit?

>>30898545
Its something like you've had to own it for 10 years. Not many people make use of it.

>>30898591
Huh. Guess I'm not moving to the states for 10 years then. I remember seeings Kommandostore bring in authentic Bakelite mags through a similar loophole.

>>30898407
That's just your autism talking. Assuming you don't mind having to replace a few things, Norc guns can be pretty good, and it's hard to argue against the price point.

Has there ever been any word on bringing in that new semi-only M249?
If not, what other semi-only belt-fed LMG/GPMGs can we have? All I know of is the MG34s

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>>30898365
do you mean this one? isn't it kind of an ak-variant?

I can't find a pic of it online now, but there was this one that looked almost like it was just a classic rifle/non-bullpup version of Type-97. that one was weird.
looks like Norc took down that entire catalog
>picrelated was from there too

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>>30898884

The QBZ-03. It's a modernized Type-81, AFAIK. So closer to the SKS than AK.

>>30895369
If you are above 18" and 26" overall, then no worries, go nuts. Feel free to purchase a smaller one though.

>>30895899
It's basically like this anywhere in southern Ontario, unless you are lucky enough to own farmland or know someone who does. Down in Windsor we have a huge hunting population (1 in 4 cars seems to have a Browning logo on it) but next to fuckall places to shoot.

>>30898753
Anything not banned by name you can make a semi auto version, if its a pre 1945 design its exempt from mag limits, im still trying to get specs on a Dshk reciever so i can being making a cad file for a semi auto only version, im also working on getting a couple mg42 parts and semi auto only receivers to build, well yugo m53, same thing.

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>>30898753
Not buying/making the semi auto version of the glorious M2 'Ma Deuce' Browning. It's been in service worldwide since 1918 for a reason.

Remember to weld on the side plate so you aren't tempted to swap it out for a full-auto plate and trigger pack.

>>30898969
They don't make smaller barrels. I was just concerned because the RCMP website specifically mentions sawing barrels.

>>30899070
>>30899011
Well, I want an Iltis down the road. So an MG42/"""""MG3"""""" clone in .308 would rock tits. But I don't know anything about that sort of thing. Thought 42s were banned, anyway.

>>30898911
QBZ-03 is currently banned as too easy to convert, not saying they wont make a complaint version but don't get your hopes up.

>>30899100
What model if I may ask? If it's almost anything by: Benelli, Winchester, Ithaca, Remington, or Mossberg, then there is a short barrel available in Canada. Hell, if you're willing to put up with Chinese clones, CanadaAmmo has 8.5" Rem870 and Ithaca 37 barrels from time to time.

>>30899117
They aren't banned by name so build away

>>30899204
Rock Island M5. 20in barrel, wanted to take it down a bit.

>>30899212
Don't they make kits in the states? I have ZERO previous experience with this sort of thing.

>>30897020
I would call the RCMP in this case and ask for the fax number. You could also ask what to include in the form to indicate your gonna fax it in. Sorry if I'm being vague/not giving a real answer. I don't want to tell you the wrong thing since I did this a long time ago and don't remember exactly what I did. I just called and followed what they said.

>>30890018
I'm confused about Canadian gun laws.

Does the 5 round rifle limit only apply to semi-automatic? Do they care about fixed magazines?

>>30901611
>Does the 5 round rifle limit only apply to semi-automatic?
Yes, but it doesn't apply to rifles in .22LR, unless they're Ruger 10/22s due to a recent and stupid ruling made by the RCMP.

>Do they care about fixed magazines?
They sure do. For example, SKSs (SKSes?) have to be pinned to five rounds even if you're still using the mag that comes attached to the rifle.

>>30901710
Was the limit retroactive? Like if you owned an SKS from before the ban did you still have to pin it?

>>30901792
Yes, all mags need to be pinned. There are some notable loopholes though

Has anyone dealt with http://westrifle.com before?

>>30901710

What about tube mags on lever guns?

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I wanna get a nuclear assault machinegun but being poor as shit my options are limited; i'm kind of wary of the Type-81 until more experience is had with them (and paying 1 grand for a Norinco seems like a ripoff). I want to save for a VZ-58 in 5.56 for tacticool or a 7.62mm one to complement my SKS and keep as slavshit as possible. But i recently saw this.

Is the Kel-Tec good? Seems like it's got everything one could want from a black rifle and have a decent price, and i heard they got good warranty.

>>30902455
no limit

>>30899143

Because it's basically a conventionally laid out QBZ-95 which was banned for the same reason. They'll just need to make the same mods to the trigger-group or whatever it was that made it too easily converted in their eyes (I say this, because we were never told how they allegedly converted the to full-fun for "public safety reasons"... The FOIA request was completely redacted).

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>>30902478

These laws make no fucking sense.

What's the typical capacity on a lever action with a tube? Noguns just getting my license. I kind of like that cowboy style stuff.

>>30902518

follow up: I'm seeing you can get some of these chambered in .357/.38 special. Does that mean if I get a revolver chambered the same, I can share ammo? Or are they different somehow?

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>>30902518
Enjoy

>capacity on tube
Depends of the caliber and length of the tube, it'll go from 4-5 rounds on big cartridge short lever actions (marlin guide) to like 20 on long lever actions stuffed with .22 short

>>30902547
yes you can share

>>30902455

It's stupid and overly complex, but hear me out:

It's based on the cartridge and firearm the mag is designed and manufactured for.

If it's a handgun: 10 round limit.

If it's a rimfire (minus handguns): unlimited.

If it's centerfire and semi (minus handguns): 10 round limit.

If it's centerfire and manually operated (think: lever, bolt, pump, etc): unlimited.

If the mag is designed and manufactured for a .40 S&W Glock 22 and you load it up with 13 or 14 9x19's in your G17, then that's legal. If you bend the feed lips for it to work better (Remanufacturing), then that's illegal. If you shove that G22 magazine into a Kel-Tec SUB2000, then that's still legal.

Two exemptions to the law exist: The M1 Garand (8 rounds) and the Lee-Enfield (10 rounds). What you may notice is that the Lee-Enfield, being bolt-action, doesn't require an exemption. Funny shit, eh?

It's convoluted, but that's what you get when your gun laws are written by people who don't have a fucking clue about firearms.

>>30902568
DERP. Brain fart.
>If it's centerfire and semi (minus handguns): FIVE round limit.

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>>30902551
>>30902568

Thanks for the thorough info, guys. It's unnecessarily convoluted, but I think I get it. I guess as long as I'm just buying guns from a store and not modifying them in my garage, I don't need to worry about being on the wrong side of the law.

I'm watching some youtube vids and lever guns seem like a lot of fun. My dad had a Winchester 30-30 when I was a kid that was a blast.

The cowboy matches seem like something for well-heeled old men but still pretty cool.

>>30902560

Awesome. That seems convenient.

>>30901611
What the other guys said plus
Machine gun belts designed before 1945 are unlimited.

>>30902508
I personally talked to one of the guys involved with the original Type 97-A and Type 97-B and it was legitimate as in it was more involved than a shoe string method but did not require any tools and could be done using common household materials. Of course there's nothing I can post to as proof but take it as you may.

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>>30902226
I have. Their English was sloppy, which is typical for slavs, but I have nothing bad to say about them.

I ordered like usual, they e-mailed me, saying "give PAL pls," I send them a scan of my PAL, they reply "thank u," and my order was processed as usual.

One thing I particularly like about them is that they actually take pictures of every individual rifle they sell, instead of using one generic picture to represent all of them. So instead of having one listing for all of their Mosin-Nagant 91/30s, they will have listings for individual one, with their own serial numbers and pictures.

Couldn't recommend them more for your slav-related needs.

>>30902568
>If the mag is designed and manufactured for a .40 S&W Glock 22 and you load it up with 13 or 14 9x19's in your G17, then that's legal.
Why didn't anyone tell me this?

>>30905125

It doesn't work that well.

It's the same reason beowulf mags are legal in .223 AR's.

>>30905125
It doesn't feed as well as G17 mags. If you bend the feed lips to have it feed better it's illegal, because you "remanufactured" it for a different caliber.

Ontariofag here, has anyone ever joined up or gone to target sports in Gormley? I was thinking of joining since they're the closest range to where I live. My only concern is their "no steel" policy. I'm not sure if that applies to just the bullet or the whole cartridge, since they separately mention steel cored rounds. The closest range safe ammo I've been able to find in 7.62x39 or x54 is a bi-metal casing.

>>30905131
Are they only legal in ar's? or can you use them for other rifles like a type 97?

>>30905490

Any rifle that uses AR-15 magazines, yes.

>>30890058
Hey! That's my SKS :)
Really surprised someone saved that.

>>30905759
Congrats on having a non autistic posp mount for your sks, ive seen people mount these inline with the bore instead of offset like how its supposed to be, and far enough back so they could still use clips, leaving only 3-4 inches of stock to get a neck weld cause they mounted it really high too.

>>30896806

I know this feeling

>"NEA has a non restricted repro AR-10 coming out, I'll hold out for that instead of buying an M14 or AR
>ETA: Whenever the RCMP fucking wants

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>>30902473
short answer: don't do it, friendo
you are better off with Type-97 in every way, even with some of its issues
>at least it doesn't beat itself apart under 1000 rounds
or get a VZ like you said

kel-tek has some good ideas, but a metal bolt banging around inside an entirely plastic receiver is not one of them
>picrelated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juxLeQY-Iwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR8VIxhWbzY

>>30906047

I'm pretty sure they've improved their polymers since then due to complains
The Sub2k gen 2 polymer feels different than the gen 1

>>30906044
For me, my biggest worry isn't when the RCMP will finally decide on a classification. I'm more worried about them changing their minds later.

>"Okay guys, the new NEA rifle will be Non-Restricted!"
>yay!
>2 years later
>"Alright, we changed our mind. We, the RCMP experts, now believe it should be Prohibited."
>WHAT
>"I know, I know, but the Liberal government was pretty convincing."
>what could they possibly say to make you change your minds?
>"They just said 'it's TWENTY-EIGHTEEN,' that's all"

>>30906748
I don't think any kind of plastic will stand up to a steel bolt smacking it. it's just a critical design flaw and they aren't addressing it

the Sub started out well thought-out and they only improved it, but there is no talk about gen2 SU-16, trying reinforce the receiver somehow or build in some way of preventing bolt overtravel on a slightly hotter load or due to a weakened spring.
>tl;dr: all it has to do is slam back into that receiver once and it does that way too often under 1k rounds to be anything more than a novelty

>>30905759
Where did you get that mount?
Also, why did you strip the varnish off your stock?

>>30907834
>>30904710
WestRifle actually, Got both the mount and scoped shipped for 490 maple bucks.

Stripper clips dont fit for me tho so you would have to load the mag like a bolt gun 1 at a time until full then rack the bolt to charge.

That's how I got it actually, Don't think the stock is original because its about half an inch longer than another one I saw at the store I got it from.

>>30908155
You can also pop open the mag and drop your rounds in from the bottom.
>I sometimes do this because it makes me feel like a special snowflake

Thanks for the info. I was hoping the mount, being offset and all, would be compatible with the use of stripper clips. Guess I might end up fashioning something myself after all.

>>30905453
OntarioFag reporting in, i just finished my R/Pal safety course there. by steel, i think they meant steel core, or AP ammo types. which is illegal in most circumstances that i know of in Cancuckisthan, but you might be mistaking the basic metal components of Lead, steel, brass metal & ect. The word steel is too broadly used to describe anything metal, or appears to be metal by alot of folks, so i dont blame ya. During the 3 day span of course, i can hear people firing off probably 454 casull... really cant mistake that round once it goes off.

I haven't seen much discussion on this: anyone else super worried about Kim Campbell being appointed to chair the committee that is appointing the next Supreme Court Justice?

It's a sneaky move by Trudeau Jr. to claim bi-partisanship because Kim is "Progressive Conservative". Never-mind that she prohibited literally over half of all firearms in Canada. I'm worried that future court decisions on self-defense will get fucked; when up until now they've been very pro-castle doctrine and very pro-self-defense.

>>30909186
Everything about our government worries me about firearms laws.

>>30908606
>which is illegal in most circumstances that i know of in Cancuckisthan

What? There's only a handful of ass-backwards ranges that disallow the use of steel-core or FMJ, unless you're talking specifically about indoor ranges.

>>30898993
breddy much , thats why im a member at the eugenie range ....
and i have my grandpa's farm in mcgreg :^}

>>30901968
like what? the lar15?

>>30908606
>steel core ammo is illegal
I hope you failed your course

>>30908606
Armor piercing ammo isnt illegal, API or explosive ammo is or if its for pistols like 9mm and shit not ar15 """"""""""'""'pistols""""""""""""""""

>>30906873
Under the common sense firearms act they only have one year to reclassify new firearms.

>>30890018
Thinking of getting my citizenship in kiwi land, then eventually joining the defense force, doing some basic research the first part seems really easy as a commonwealth citizen, but i dont meet the criteria yet for the second part, generally you'd have to already be in the military here, but if you arent you can still join if you have a trade and are eligible to work in new Zealand and have a visa, os there anything im missing or is really that easy

>>30908606
>>30909436
Steel core is not considered AP even though it is naturally somewhat armor piercing it is not designed for AP so it gets a pass.
Steel core is banned on some ranges due to either the its destructive nature to backstops or its higher chance to cause ricochets.

>Prohibited ammunition is
Any AP ammo designed for use in a handgun. So 5.7x28 is out because of the 5.7 pistol.
Any incendiary ammo. This includes ALL API but does not include tracer rounds.(Although tracer rounds are banned from import so they are hard to find)
Any explosive ammunition under 15mm.(0.59in). That means 50 BMG and Boys AT can't use explosive ammo but 20mm rifles, 37/40mm launchers, 12 gauge can use explosive ammo. Note that almost all hi explosives are themselves regulated by natural resources.
Any shotgun flechette rounds.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-462/fulltext.html

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I am drunken retard from Ontario. In other words, Torontonian. How do I make legal purchase of SKS?

What documentation and license do I need? I tried to research it but I am drunk and it didn't make sense. Sorry to bother you guys.

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>>30890698
>Cameroonian Tire

ke ke ke

>>30912141
1) Take your Canadian firearms safety course
Ontario find a course site http://www.fseso.org/public-instructor-search
CFSC is the basic course for non restricted only, CRFSC is for non restricted and restricted
2) Apply for PAL or RPAL licence
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/pdfs/5592-eng.pdf

If you wanted to shoot handguns, AR-15, AR-10, or short barrel semi autos take the Restricted course and apply for RPAL. You don't meed this for just an SKS but its good to have in the future.

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>>30912256

I want SKS because cheap and also somewhat of a tradition at this point. Thank you.

Is the sks ok for elk hunting and bear defense?

>>30913435

7.62x39 performs about the same as .30-30 (slightly weaker at close range, slightly strong past... 150 yards, was it?).

Acceptable for deer, a bit anemic for anything bigger.

I'd get at least a .308 for elk.

>>30912351
I'd definitely grab one. They are really fun guns. Simple, reliable and decently accurate.

I'm looking at getting a nugget soon, 1924 izzy hex receiver for sub 280. I cant stop drooling over it.

>>30914366
I just picked up a 1932 hex izzy for $250. Shoots beautifully.

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>>30912351
>Mars Automatic Pistol
Didn't know anything about that gun until now

>The captain in charge of tests of the Mars at the Naval Gunnery School in 1902 observed, "No one who fired once with the pistol wished to shoot it again".
>Shooting the Mars pistol was described as "singularly unpleasant and alarming".
My fucking sides

Thinking about picking up a Henry Big boy from cabelas on sale.
Is chambered in 357 the best choice?
Or should i get 45colt

If I have a tight maxwell on my AR, will the PCV beowulf mags fit? Are they as malleable as metal mags?

>>30915519
I'd personally get the .357 mag one, since it's easier to find revolvers also in that calibre, and the ammo is cheaper, but ultimately go with whatever makes you happy.

So if I complete a lower receiver I have to call the RCMP?

>>30916883
Yup

>>30916883
You're supposed to call before you start work, and again after. The lower receiver is the firearm, and actually finishing an 80% lower is manufacturing one.

anyone going to build a VZ61 ?

>>30916914
Saw the kits but i'm still holding out for the 22lr uppers.

>>30916907

I guess I'm going to get butt fucked for completing it before I even got the registration for the stripped lower then. RIP my anus.

>>30916966
Maybe, just call tomorrow, say you're going to start working on it, then call again in a couple hours to say you finished it. Ask for a custom serial number if you've already engraved your own in it.

>>30911260
Let's not forget that the Liberal government wants to repeal that very same act.

>>30911378
I wish we could get 40mm HE.
IF 5.7x28 is banned, though, how do people feed those PS90s I occasionally see for sale around here?

>>30917073
>IF 5.7x28 is banned
Only AP loads are banned.
>I wish we could get 40mm HE.
Either stick with chalk, slug, or buck loads, or get a controlled good/explosives permit.

>>30917073
FN makes "sporting" 5.7 ammo apparently even in places that allow civilians to own AP ammo they rarely sell it outside mil/leo these days.

>>30916985

Sorry. To clarify, it's a stripped lower not an 80% lower. I just installed the lower parts kit and the buffer + stock.

>>30917234
Yeah, the lower is required to be registered, even without an LPK or anything else.

>>30917234
A stripped lower should already be registered to your name.
The call in is only for registering and getting a serial no. for 80%'s when you wish to start finishing them.

>>30917259
>>30917285

Well the lower has a serial number on it already. But in the "Within 30 days" section it says call the RCMP if you change a receiver or frame into a firearm that fires.

>>30917311
Well if it isn't registered, and is a functional firearm, you should probably get on it sooner rather than later.

>>30917311
Ah yeah forgot about that yes you have to call to update the registry when you change caliber and or barrel length. Within 30 days of the change.

>>30917109
I wonder how hard it is to get said permit and maintain it.
>Anon shows up to a /k/ meet and immediately decimates a tree stump with a 203

Any idea what's going on with Canada Post?

>>30918210
they keep delaying the strike,

>>30917234
how did you get a 100% lower without having it be registered already?
I think you are confused, stripped lower is a restricted firearm, much like a Glock 17 or an 11.8" barreled VZ, when you were buying it, you should have had the transfer process started by the seller and completed by you, by calling the CFO and getting it transferred and registered to your name

typically all of this has to happen before you can have it in your hands, that's why I'm wondering how you ended up with an unregistered stripped lower. (the 30 days thing doesn't apply here, it's for altering existing firearms that makes them change classification, and for competing 80 lowers or otherwise manufacturing a firearm, because in those cases you start out with something that doesn't need registration, but end up with something that does.)
in your case, the lower was already an R firearm when you got it, so putting lower parts into it and slapping on the upper doesn't change anything in regard of it being a firearm. btw I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, just want to figure out what happened before giving advice.
was it a private sale and the thing is still registered to the previous owner's name? did you buy it at a store or online retailer and they just mailed it to you without transfer? was it somehow never registered when manufactured or imitated into the country?

>>30917479
According to some anons, not difficult at all as long as you meet the minimum storage regulations. The bitch of it, is that you need a permit for each explosive round IIRC. There are also issues regarding transportation. I sell auto insurance, and we won't cover anyone who transports items needing a dangerous goods permit. So take that into consideration as well.

>>30919330
Maybe he inherited it? I can only imagine a retailer would have noticed their collosal fuckup and contacted him by now if he bought it from a store.

>>30918210
>>30918399

My RPAL is in the mail. I swear to god if they fuck me I will never send a letter again.

>sorry gramgram

Are you guys on CGN? I'm trying to join the EE and I'm surprised by how much bullshit you have to slog through. Are there often good deals to be had?

>>30902568
>It's convoluted, but that's what you get when your gun laws are written by people who don't have a fucking clue about firearms.
The convoluted ness is more a side effect of the government's love of bureaucracy.

Usually it's a good thing (checks and balances and accountability, and all that) but yeah with guns it's become a mess.

Even the Liberal Party seems to have realized that C-42, the lazy handjob of pro-gun legislation, pretty much just cut away a lot of useless red tape, which is why they've made no move against it.

>>30919330

Bought it from a store a week ago. I just got the registration certificate today in the mail. It is a registered lower, it's just that it says it's a frame/receiver beside the serial number on the certificate. Was just asking if once I slap on the upper do I have to call the RCMP that it is now a completed AR. The within 30 days list seems to imply that.

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>>30919611
>>30919330

Pic related is what I'm talking about. Under barrel length in the certificate it says receiver/frame.

>>30919588
Can be great deals of you are willing to wait and know what you're looking for.

>>30919611
>>30919653
Yeah, once it has a calibre and barrel length you need to have the RCMP record it, because this will stop you from committing so many horrible crimes with it.

>>30919714

Okey doke. And are they going to be sending me another certificate? Are they going to be writing the barrel length on the new one? What if I change uppers? These laws are really dumb and prevent 0 crime.

>>30919588
you just have to make an introductory post and message the mods... is that too hard for you?

>>30919839

I was referring to the ten pages of rules and regulations they expect you to read, and for some reason they also need to know who my ISP is

>>30895899
They have them at Canadian Tires in Winnipeg. I didn't know they banned them for sale in Toronto, that's weird.

>>30919759
Probably a new certificate, and yeah you need a new one if you plan on keeping a new upper on. I would just have one upper that you keep on when you store it, and switch it out for range trips and the like since you only need to register it within 30 days of a new change and you'll be returning it to the registered condition well before then.

>>30919953

How idiotic this whole thing is.

>>30919980
Don't worry I know. I have an 18.5' VZ58. God forbid I get one with a 12' barrel without the proper papers. Or take it shooting in the woods. I'll clearly be proving my guilt as a menace to society and inevitable mass shooter then.

>>30919953

he doesn't need a new reg cert for another upper, a new upper doesn't change the classification of the firearm.

>>30920038
New specifications, namely calibre and barrel length. Doesn't really matter all that much, especially if you just keep the original upper on when you store it.

>>30920107

What if I store it without the upper? I guess I keep the original receievr/frame paper?

>>30920174
I suppose, though they do like to have BL and calibre written down. Quite frankly it's all rather stupid, written by idiots, and enforced by assholes. If you're ever questioned on it, just say you have 30 days to notify the RCMP and it's been only X time (hours or days totalling less than 30).

>>30920237

I guess this dumb 30 day period resets every time I take off and put on an upper lol.

>>30920258
Yeah. You've changed the barrel length and calibre, that's another 30 days. Because reasons.

>>30920107
>>30920174
>>30920237
>>30920258
>>30920288

They can set it to "multicaliber" in the registry, you know.

>>30920317
Oddly, "multicaliber" is not a legal way to register a gun. They still allow it because they want to put in as little effort as possible, though.

>>30920446

Dude, people have registered glue guns, nail guns, heat guns and hand drills.

I don't know if it's still available anywhere, but there's a portion of the old LGR that was put online for people to see and any given field in the spreadsheet would be filled with weird shit.

I saw a bunch of firearms labeled as "multishot" for type of action.

>>30920540
>people have resitered glue guns, nail guns, heat guns and hand drills

Quebec is a sad, sad province.

>>30920676
Known felons who are prohibited from ever owning guns, including Hell's Angels leaders, have successfully registered guns. It's fucked.

>>30919855
Make sure you dont say ANYTHING negative, dont even imply someones price is too high or be critical of a gun, im perma banned for saying "whats the deal with early nea shit, why are they garbage" 15 people reported me, CGN is the tumblr of Canadian gun sites where everyone one there needs a safe space and cant take criticism or differing opinions, say xcrs suck cause they fall apart of someone you get perma banned say johnone sucks for selling shoddy garands youll definitely get banned, jokingly call someone a fag or something and you get perma banned.

Edmonton here, where the hell do I find Gen 2 Pmags? Everyone only seems to carry Gen 3...

Anyone else here afraid to tell friends that they are a gun owner? Apparently, telling people you are a gun owner is inviting theft. How true is that? Don't know why a friend would rob a friend.

>>30921661
Perhaps it's foolish but I readily mention shooting if asked what my hobbies are or what I did on the weekend. For one thing, I've made friends with a few people at work that I otherwise wouldn't have known they were gun owners. Secondly, I like to create the perception that firearm ownership is a normal healthy thing rather than some weird secret.

>>30921130
pmags are shit. they dont drop free from most ARs

buy GI mags and install magpul followers if you want top tier mags.

>>30921661
opsec is important in canada. its not your friends, it's who they tell and who those people tell and so on.

>>30920749
if 5 years have passed and you weren't convicted of a violent crime you have a chance to get a pal

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>>30921717
I want Gen 2 Pmags for my Type 97, since they look very close to the QBZ 5.8x42 mags. I have the correct PLA sling, the proprietary YMA optic, I just need a few Pmags to complete the look.

>>30921661
I'd just ask them not to spread it around, but I fairly freely tell people I own guns. Just don't make it a big thing and it won't be.

>>30921661
The only reason to hide your gun ownership is if you spend all your time with tweakers or wiggers. Liberals may give you shit about it, but they'd never do anything more than flap their mouths.

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CanAm is planning to do another run of the DA556 AR-15s and plan to have them at a similar price point as before
>previous ones were Norinco made
>these will be made in US
watch the new batch be absolute garbage, since these will be $600 US-made ARs

>>30921761
My friend will be jelly of your t97 at the meet and may wanna trade for it.

>>30921661
I tell everyone i have guns, but i never ever tell anyone when im not home. Like whos gonna rob the guy with 30 guns, body armor and explosives? Only people i can think of are police or hardened criminals and you have to fuck up pretty bad to get those two after you. Most tweakers and coke heads think im cop cause im well versed with the law. That or they just call you a goof and threaten to rob you, thats when you just say go right ahead and see how that turns out. Dont show fear and people wont fuck with you, especially if your armed, criminals dont know you have to keep stuff lock up and the ones that do probably wont risk finding that put either

>>30922445
PSA makes good AR-15 at around that price. Can't be all that bad but I doubt they'll be able to do it for under 700.

>>30922618
chinkshit might be chinkshit, but Dominion Arms ARs were only popular because they were solid quality at rock bottom prices. I just can't see the same quality at that price if the manufacturer is in US

>>30922764
I wonder if Norinco is not doing the QC-A anymore then.

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>>30922782
that's what DA556 was, just rebranded for CanAm, but now they are going to a different manufacturer
Marstar hasn't had CQ-a's for a long time, doesn't look like anyone is getting new shipments of them in a while, so you might be right, maybe Norcs are all about picrelated now

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>>30922814
well, and putting the Type-81 back in production

>>30922814
Kinda sucks because as much as I like my T97 their CQ-A is probably the best rifle to come out of Norinco sofar.

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>>30922860
I'm not a fan of ARs in general, being restricted and the whole direct impingement system is not to my liking
>piston master race
but I do have R license and since I only shoot on the range anyway, I thought of picking up the fabled bang-for-your-buck Norc AR, to get into the AR game without breaking the bank
doesn't look like that'll happen now.

Type 97 seems alright, didn't go for it on account of varying records. each seems to be different, even though most seem ok
I wonder if the new model will have the kinks fixed or if it'll just be the same gun with the rail snapped on
>from pictures of the ones pakistanis are getting already, it looks like the Norks looked at the FTU and said "we can do that", cut off the sights themselves and bolted on an even lower rail, using the QBZ-03 charging handle and leaving it reciprocating

BC checkin' in on ya.

Thinking of joining Mission gun club. Anyone recommend them?

Thoughts on the best gun range in BC?

>>30922969
no idea myself. I live in mission though, so I should.
Just go up sylvester road

>>30921711

I do this too but most people don't know where I live, so I'm not worried about theft. Also I have a big fuckin' safe.

>>30922490

This.

If you look and sound like the kind of person who will shoot a home intruder with no second thought, people think twice. Funny that, eh?

>>30922895
Too bad the new 97 looks a bit different. Might consider one over the T97.ca version, if only for the lesser cost and reciprocating charging handle.

Anyone here in the reserves with glasses? I'd like to know if the CAF gives you ballistic lenses, inserts or anything at all, or if they allow you to wear your own (should you have any).

Any Edmontonfags here; and is the closest "crown land" legit Assiniboine area?

Just got my SKS and wanna go innawoods

Looking for my first handgun. under 600$ would be nice.

Was told to start with 9mm, and recommendations?

>>30926480
Theres over 50000 acres of crownland around the Edmonton area, its usually 40-60 minutes west/northwest of Edmonton. Its really really helps if your a member of the fish and game association cause you can access all crownland and natural areas without permission. Theres over 12000 acres of crownland just west of wabamun/seba beach alone and lots of smaller sections averaging 150-300 acres around wabamun/all along pemibina/ and out by keephills and Duffield. Just find a spot with few houses around and lots of trees and make sure there no no trespassing signs, i can spoon feed you some maps but then i have to get up

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>>30926695
Fish and game association memebership benefits btw.

>>30926690
Start with whatever you want. There is some Norinco 9mm that just came in for something like $500 called CF-98. I haven't heard a word about them, but I had a chance to handle one. Wasn't the most comfortable thing I've ever picked up and the slide was extremely stiff. Would much rather get the M1911 that Norinco makes for a similar price. Otherwise you can get their Sig clones for pretty cheap.

>>30926740
Noted.

Only pistol ranges around my area so unless I want to drive a few hours to crown land a handgun will be my only option for regular shooting.

You have experience with surplus handguns? tokerev for example?

>>30926695
for 400ish you can get the S&W SD9VE which is decent
Its very Glock-like to the point Glock sued them
Trigger sucks but the price is right
Alternatives are Norinco

>>30892566
Don't even have to go that far. Ajax has a pretty good fun store by the south end McDicks, and I was in the Whitby crappy tire for ammo this weekend. They have a gun counter and 20-25 rifles/shotguns.

>>30926853
Don't have any yet. Sorry. I have my RPAL but I'm just fondling at my LGS for now. No money, no range membership, moving too much in the immediate future.

>>30927518
No problem.

Best of luck to you in the future. Hope ends meet

>>30916914
Just got mine. F/A parts have been ground, sear is missing. Just a heads up.

Receiver looks like its going to be a little more work than an AR or 1911.

>>30927667
what do you mean ?
more complex/ tighter tolerances
or
requiring more specialized tooling eg mills/ cnc , broaching ??

or both, either way im thinking of getting one

>>30926695
>>30926731
Kek, since when do you need "permission" to shoot on Crown Land? Drive out, shoot, have fun and stay legal and safe.
>>30926480
Tok Guy is an Edmontonfag, I've shot with him on CL by both Westlock and Wildwood.

>>30927801
People lease crownland for grazing and shit, some people request you contact them before going on crownland their leasing others dont care, and almost all crownland is day use only and foot access only so you dont have to deal with quadders, the crownland you go too is day use only

>>30927561
I'm doing alright, just too much moving around in university. I have 2 rifles and a shotgun already, and I'm getting another rifle in September.
>I want an Izzy SVT to go with my Izzy mosin.
>My Izzy mosin was made in 1932 and is in amazing condition

>>30927961
Fair enough. Surprisingly, I've seen people camping at Wildwood (and I will too, when I can find my tent). Guess it's not such a big deal, then. And remember when Anon used his Jeep to get up there? The laws here are such a joke.

Did anything ever come of that call for an East ON meetup? I remember a few people said they were on board, but nothing after that.

>>30930603
I'm hoping to set something up later on in the month. Would be in Stittsville, as I don't have an EOSC membership (even though I live 10 minutes down the road from that range).

Could happen in September too, schedules permitting. I'll be back in university but my weekends will still be open. Dunno about the rest of you Ottawa/NCR fags.

>>30930702
Damn. I might not be able to make it. If we do it again next year, we will have to try for earlier in the Summer.
>I'll be 3 hours into Quebec, at university, in September.

>>30930702
That sounds amazing i'm without a car but till try to get a ride with a buddy.

>>30930727
Montreal? Bus is only $40 or so, round trip. If you're back in Ottawa for the holidays, we could also do something around then. Stittsville range seems to be open basically all year.

>>30930731
I'll be driving out there from the east side, I suppose I could pick you up if you're sort of on the way. Assuming you want to get into a car with a chantarded stranger :^)
I promise I won't fill all the cupholders with cum or anything like that.

>>30930801
Little extra lube nevers hurts.
Do you know if Stittsville allows non members to bring restricted. I do have that stupid restricted firearms certification for Ontario if that helps.

>>30930801
>Montreal? Bus is only $40 or so, round trip.
Sherbrooke. I'll definitely see if we can sort something out over Christmas break though.

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I recently bubba'd a new SKS I got. I already have one, and this one was on sale at my Wholesale Sports for 207 before taxes. I was like oh man, so I dropped about 450 total on a magazine, kwikrail, stock, and the gun total. I'd say it was worth it. Next paycheck I'm getting another SKS or a nice scope for this one (I'm thinking Leupold rilfeman). Which one?

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>>30930892
The pistol grip

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>>30930905
The business end

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>>30930892
Both of my SKSs; the top one is a 1950 Tula, and I found it in pretty good condition for 285 at Cabela's. My small but close knit family for now

>>30920540
>Dude, people have registered glue guns, nail guns, heat guns and hand drills.
I would hope most of those people are doing it in protest.

>>30931147

They were absolutely doing it to take the piss out of them.

>>30930891
Alright, sounds good.

>>30930860
I can't find a single mention of restricted firearms in their range rules, but according to the IPSC listing for the range, restricted firearms can only be used by range members. And the only facilities open to non-members are skeet & trap, five stand, and rifles. You can bring whatever you want if you're coming with me, just might end up leaving any restricteds in the trunk depending what they say at the range.

>>30930965
Is that the original stock on the bottom one? Looks like the butt must be a good 1.5 or 2 inches longer than the other. I've wanted a longer stock for ages. Goddamn midgets.

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>>30931226
You can't really see it from that angle but the bottom one is slightly to the right of the top one. They were the same length so I figured hey I'd much rather get rid of the SKS which is terrible and has a unremovable pin in the magazine.
See how in this photo the bullet spring as a pin in the bottom of it, not welded to the magazine like in many?

>>30931295
Thats a nice hand you got there..

>>30931190
From their facebook
"Restricted firearms are currently only allowed to be discharged by current range members."

Shieeeeeeet.

>>30931323
Oh that's my dad lol
>still 19 and going to uni
>dad and I are only gun lovers in the household of 5
>he and I retreat to the gun room to talk about stocks and Trump and build guns
It's a pretty fun time desu, and I'm gonna miss it when I move out.

>>30931329
Fuck. Seems a little excessive, there must be a legal reason for it.

>>30931295
Never seen a mag pinned like that.
>unremovable
But that's the point, anon :^^^^)))))))

>>30931993
>finally get some land
>what people can't find doesn't exist in the Canadian wilderness

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>>30932283
B-be careful

>>30932344
>spoopy file name is spoopy

>>30931226
>midgets
stop being fudd burger and square up to your target like a tacticool slavperator suddenly: stock is of right length
#rifleisfine #Illcheekibreekiwithyou #notallslavboos

>>30930905
tulammo?
also, how is that stock? I remember seeing some roundeye on youtube complain about pistol grip coming off

>>30926695
Sure I'd like some maps and I'll Def check out fish and game association

Send to [email protected]

I haven't even taken my gun shooting yet so I'm definately eager but don't want to run into trouble

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>>30932453
I got like 3 screws in there, he probably didn't put the real screw in; you have to pull out the dick grip and there's an internal screw in the grip that basically locks the trigger mechanism in place. If you do that you're golden.
>pic related is stamp on my bubba'd SKS
Do you know what it means? I know the Tula mark
And that's Sellier and Bellot 7.62 bulk. Comes with the bullets on clips.

>>30931993
>it's actually not unremovable

mine fucking snapped when i was shooting innawinterwoods ,i had to repin my own fucking mag. my sks is now tula/toyata .

>>30932546
>And that's Sellier and Bellot 7.62 bulk. Comes with the bullets on clips.
Where did you buy that? Seriously, I need clips that will work in my VZ58, and non-corrosive ammo.

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>>30932444
She's my Jewfu.
How's Saskatchewan?

>>30932562
I actually had to reglue mine back on and file down the bolt head because it caused my SKS to stovepipe the last round of every clip. It pissed me off to no end that I almost just ended up taking it out permanently, but I realized if I did that my future with the gubmit might be at stake.
>>30932570
Wholesale sports in my town; they had like 3 boxes left. 299 each for 1200 rounds
>>30932572
Eh it's not too bad. If you wanna go shooting fmj bulk it's shit though; you gotta drive at least 2 hours north to get into some bush cause farmers hate fmj on their land and ranges don't allow fmj here

What would you guys think of a Leupold rifleman scope for my SKS? Too good for the gun? I'm split between buying that and ammo, or another SKS and ammo

>>30932596
>Wholesale sports in my town; they had like 3 boxes left. 299 each for 1200 rounds
Shit, that's what I paid for 1440 rounds of corrosive surplus that were just in boxes.

>>30932546
ah, it's the corrosive stuff on clips, gotcha

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>>30932637
right?? They also had a sale (I didn't buy during the sale), but it was 20% off all centrefire rifles and ammo.
Nice
>>30932640
Ehh corrosive isn't really all that bad. Just clean your gun out after and you're good.
I really wanna do a /k/anada meetup, but everyone here is like minimum 5 hours away cause this place is so big for a population the size of California.

>>30932665
>right?? They also had a sale (I didn't buy during the sale), but it was 20% off all centrefire rifles and ammo.
>Nice
I'd have bought a crate then. Apparently it's not available online, according to their website.
>Maybe I'll get lucky and it will be when I have the money and a more pressing need for ammo
>I have an SVT to buy first.

>>30932665
anyone in the southernmost point ?

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>>30932596
Dammit, burning through boxes of fmj is what I live for. You do any hunting out there?

By the way, I don't think it's a bad idea to throw some glass on an SKS. But it's not going to become a match-grade shooter just because of that. You already know this, I'm sure, but it always bears repeating.

>>30932700
I'm in Regina for now, but in the next 6-9 months if all goes best case scenario I could be going to Riguard Quebec for 14 weeks
>>30932701
>You do any hunting out there?
I just hunt pheasant and geese for the past couple seasons. We got drawn for 3 moose, and we got them down by Stoughton. Hoping to go coyote shooting this fall or next spring
>it's not going to become a match-grade shooter just because of that
I realize that; I'm not gonna use my SKS to take down any big game, just small varmits and coyotes

>>30932744
Sounds like you know what you're getting into, then. I would just advise that you don't attach a scope that sticks out too far over the shells' ejection path. The Leupold Rifleman series all look pretty lengthy.

Also wanted to ask about the scope mount pictured in >>30931295
Has it ever jiggled around and mucked up your sighting? If not, I may have to get one for myself. I have a Bushnell red dot that I'd like to use on my SKS.

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On the topic of SKSs, have any of you come across these funny little 5-round fixed magazines?

>>30932999
They're all the rage for NZ import SKS..
I had trouble with one of them sticking up into action on the last shot and jamming the rifle.
Better to just put a block in the standard mag.

>>30932991
I have the kwikrail mount for my SKS that I'm gonna put it on in >>30930892
The mount has a built in shell deflector so I kinda had to get aftermarket magazines since loading by clip was out of the picture.
>>30931295
That was taken after I finally got it on after a fucking hour of filing it down, and it still didn't work. Barska is a piece of shit mount system, and I got a tri-rail mount for my original SKS, which didn't fit either. I'm gonna take this new one to the gun shop though so they can file it down for me.

Hey guys, I was just wondering if there is any ongoing discussion in government over concealed carry in Canada and if there isn't, is there any hope for change in the future?

what's a good trunk gun for a canadafag?

sks? pump shotgun? .22? a bolt action rifle?

>>30933026
Shame, I thought they looked pretty slick. Would make a pretty nice aesthetic with a monte carlo stock.

>>30933058
Had similarly bad luck with a tri-rail mount for my SKS. The kwikrail is starting to look like a $100 solution to my problems. Have you already put some rounds through your gun with that rail attached?

>>30933118
>no hunting or sporting purpose

you'll have an easier time moving to the USA than convincing the canadian gov to allow ccw. they would rather spend money trying to make canada a place where you don't need ccw.

>>30933137
tech sights for the sks are pretty good alternative to an optic

>>30933137
I haven't yet; I'm gonna go shooting sunday and hopefully it won't explode. I'm gonna go to sleep, but I'll post updates sunday night around this time or an hour or two earlier, so if you wanna book that in your calendar I'll make sure to take lots of pictures. Should I start a thread then or just post to the /k/anada gen?

>>30933122
Why do you need a trunk gun, citizen?

>>30933150
I've been thinking about these as well. Little chunk of steel at the back of the receiver, doesn't bulk up the gun's profile too much, as opposed to a scope or red dot sticking up into the air.

>>30933171
Goodnight sweet prince. Post your updates in /k/anada, god knows we love the extra traffic.

>>30933210
>Why do you need a trunk gun, citizen?

cuz i dont live in a libtard containment zone and like to have access to one when im in the backcountry

>>30933118
While there is technically CC possible in Canada (look up ATC licenses) the RCMP essentially never hands them out, unless you personally suck off the head of the RCMP (Paulson I think?). Regardless, you won't get it in it's current form, and it's extremely unlikely it'll happen anytime soon, barring a massive shift in how the average Canadian sees gun ownership and several changes of government.

Does anyone know which medications can revoke a PAL license? More specifically Ativan.

>>30933327
You can potentially get it if someone someone tries killing you 3 times and its documented, but the police have to sign off on it saying they cant protect you and shit. Just ccw illegally if you legitimately need to, doing just cause is fun and all but not worth it at all. And no im not crazy tok guy just someone else who use to ccw a grizzly 8.5" in a shoulder holster

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>>30932546
the stamp just means rearsenalled, refurbished by legit slav refurbishers, you are good to go, comrade

>>30933327
that licence is most often reserved for judges and crown prosecutors who receive bonafide death threats while working on high profile cases. regular citizens getting them is unheard of. no matter what the circumstances, the rcmp don't want to give people the right to shoot back because it usually results in escalation of force (ie you shoot somebody with a pistol, he returns fire with a shotgun. the next night you come back with a rifle and frag up the entire neighborhood, etc until one of the belligerents dies). they make an exception for judges and CPs because the rcmp actually has something to gain from helping these types of people stay alive.

If you own a business that deals with large amount of cash you can get a permit to carry, or if you have had 3 or more attempts on your life, other ways for civilians to get ccw here include vip protection and certain security jobs

>>30933656
Meant for >>30933636

>>30933656
>own a business that deals with large amount of cash

no, the rcmp will tell you to shell out for brinks service if youre worried about being robbed en route to make a deposit.

>>30933669
I mean youd be entitled to ccw in your business, youd be pretty retarded to transport the cash yourself. Ive been to a certian jewelry store where the owner was clearly packing, it Suprised the hell out of me to see someone ccwing like that, the only other place ive noticed people carrying was either in gunstores or at gunshows and the latter is usually undercover cops

>>30933636
Yeah, that's exactly what happens in the states. When a CCW holder in the US defends themselves and kills or detains the criminal attacking, they magically get a shotgun and kill the holder of the CCW. Except that's wrong of course, it's only ever one confrontation unless it was a targeted attempt.

>>30933683
I saw a guy drop his gun in tim hortons before, scared the hell out of my girlfriend.

>>30933690
>3 previous attempts

the ccw licences in canada ARE given to people being specifically targeted; did you even read the post? and you're dreaming if you think every robbery ends with the perp being injured/killed/detained.


>drive by shooting
>ccw holder shoots back
>now assailants know he's armed
>assailants return with greater force
>ccw holder realizes he's outgunned, upgrades his arsenal
>assailants return again
>both parties exchange fire with upgraded weapons
>repeat with larger groups of assailants and more powerful weapons until either party is eliminated, often resulting in civilian casualties.

>>30933711
well memed friendo

>>30933719
Well that's the point.
>No, you can't defend yourself, you aren't special enough
It's retarded. Also, who the fuck is dumb enough to let their assailant go free. Either kill them, or get the cops to kill/arrest them rather then letting them fuck around. If you're being specifically targeted then you should have cops around anyways, if you aren't really going to be in the middle of an escalating gang war, considering they have no reason to risk themselves going after a target they no is armed when their only motivation is theft.

>>30933755
you're not very good at reading, are you?

they VERY, VERY RARELY give these permits to ANYONE. the few recipients have historically been JUDGES and PROSECUTORS who are IN DANGER OF BEING MURDERED by the ACCUSED'S CRIMINAL ASSOCIATES. people who CARRY A LOT OF CASH or WORK WITH VALUABLE GOODS are instructed to USE PROFESSIONAL SECURITY SERVICES and subsequently DENIED CARRY PERMITS.

yes it may seem unfair, but this is the country we live in. the government will make every effort to avoid normalizing the use of lethal force and emphasize your duty to retreat.
refer to >>30933141
>>30933636
>>30933719

>>30933786
I understand what you're saying. I'm saying morally wrong to prevent a law abiding citizen from having the ability to defend themselves with the most successful implement we currently have available, even if there isn't a clear and targeted threat to their life.

>>30933791
i agree with that m8, it's total bullshit.

though, good news for you, there's actually a pretty easily available open carry permit called a prospector's licence. basically if you work as a prospector/surveyor in remote parts of the country (northern ontario or bc, mostly - actual northern ontario, not sudbury. like waaaaay north up in the shield) you can get a permit to open carry a restricted weapon, usually a big bore handgun but ultimately your choice, to defend against predators that sneak up on you when you're working. though, you have to notify the rcmp and fish cops when/where you're going to be when youre carrying.

>>30933791
>>30933821
Common wealth nations have the worst gun laws.

>>30933832
canada actually has the 3rd most free gun laws out of all developed nations (behind the usa and czech republic)

>>30933857
I'd argue that the Swiss also have better laws, though it's fairly debatable.
>TFW no AK variant SVD

>>30933857
No way, NZ has way better laws than us;

>Suppressors and SBRs can be bought without tax stamps.
>no SBR laws
>"assault weapons" can be bought with a class E license (for sport/competitive shooters), but unlike Canada 30 round magazines are legal.

Whenever some Torontonian brings up Austrailia as an example of successful gun control, bring up NZ as a counter to it.

How's the accuracy and reliability of the FAMAE SG 540 compared to a Swiss Arms? I know the SG 542 has feeding issues, but the 540 uses Swiss Arms magazines, which are supposedly much better. The 540 is already $3000, is the swiss arms really worth an extra $12-1500?

>>30934439

NZ has feature-based laws ("MSSA's") and their magazines can't even LOOK like they are full-capacity (no pins for them!).

It's a toss-up, but I'd give the edge to Canada.

>>30933236
12ga pump shotgun would probably serve you well. With a box each of buckshot and slugs, I'd say you're set.

>>30933371
Anti-depressants are a far bigger red flag to them.

>>30933719
>That entire greentext scenario
That never happens, and you're retarded for thinking it does. Even in the US that doesn't happen unless both parties happen to be gangsters in a gang war. In which case they weren't following the law in the first place and never applied for a CC permit.

>>30932744

Not the guy you were responding to, but I am in Regina too. Which range do you go to where they don't allow FMJ? RWF doesn't care as long as you aren't at their indoor ranges.