Can we all agree that USGI mags are better than PMags? I cant

Lancers > USGI > Hex > PMags Gen 3 > PMags Gen 2 > Surefires > Drums >

>>30794993

no because GI followers are terrible and if you drop a mag the risks of it getting dented and deformed out of spec is way too high.

the feed lip problem is the notch in the back of the magazine for the bolt catch/last round hold open acting as a stress riser when you drop a fully loaded magazine on the lips.

>>30795120

Most USGI aluminum mags come standard with magpul followers now.

As for the rest of that, good and fair points.

>>30794993
It's pretty fucking awesome that I can get brand new US-made, National Tactical Officers Association-recommended, C-Products aluminum and steel 30rd mags for under $10.

There is literally no reason to buy magpul mags.

>>30795120
You can reshape metal mags easy, polymer not so much.

>>30795005
Hex belongs at the bottom of that list under a handfull of dog shit jammed into your magwell

Other than that spot on

>>30795120
>if you drop a mag the risks of it getting dented and deformed out of spec is way too high

Based on Chicago SWAT's experiences with pmags in winter, I think the risk of totally breaking a plastic mag are higher than denting a metal one from dropping it. You must be a serious noguns to think USGI mags have a problem with getting dropped. You have to try really hard to fuck up a USGI mag.

Do they make USGI type metal mags in 10rnd capacity for those of us in non-free states?

>>30794993
I actually prefer GI mags, because rattlecan, and also the price point. If GI mags were shit and caused problems they wouldn't be issued in the era of Funker530, where every republican gun owner can compare it to what they own.

>>30795005
Pretty much this.

>>30796829
They used to for sure, not sure about these days though. Don't you guys use the "lol it's a .50 Beo ten rounder not 30 rounds of .223 heheheheh"?

>>30796799
>C-Products
Until they have a cage code, they're not worth buying, you may as well get promags.

>>30796829

there are companies in syrupland that make 10 round AR "pistol" mags for this very purpose

>>30794993

Not calling you a liar but got proof of deformation?

My p mags have been sitting loaded in the safe for years now, no deformation.

>>30796762
No they don't you fucking liar.The tan follower mag are the latest magazine and they aren't made by magpul.

Lancer > USGI = Pmags

I do think the lancer mags are slightly better than Pmags but the pMags being so cheap makes them a great buy, Same for USGI ones.


You catch em on sale and you can get em under 10 bucks a pop. Haven't seen Lancer for under 20. I do keep my pMags loaded but I keep the clip on so the pressure is not on the feed lips

>>30794993
Feed lips only deform in extreme heat, faggot. Get the fuck out of here.

>>30796816
I have ran drills for days at a time in Minnesota. I'm talking mags left overnight outside -10 weather with murderous wind chill. Pick em up, shoot em, drop em right on concrete and they show no signs of wear. Please link to the Chicago PD info because until I see real proof about it i'm trusting pmags in the cold.

>>30796816
>Based on Chicago SWAT's experiences with pmags in winter,
>in winter
Key point right there, man. Polymers are brittle in cold.

>>30797657
Of course he doesn't have proof. The gun community is rife with rumors and bullshit with no proof to back it up.

Otherwise things like "fully loaded mag springs wear out" and stopping power in normal pistol calibers wouldn't exist.

>>30797835
Metal gets brittle in the cold as well bro.

>>30794993
>>30795005
are lancer mags compatible with 300 blk ?

>>30794993
Alex from TFB TV pls go

>>30797863

Any 5.56 AR mag is compatible with 300. memeout. Except maybe surefiremags and drums.

>>30796816
I've fucked up countless USGI mags but I was wearing them on a chest rig attached to my flack and often times in the prone for extended periods of time. The aluminum warps very easily but they're pretty easy to fix with a Leatherman and another mag as a reference.

>>30797858
Sure, if you dip it in liquid nitrogen. Metal is MUCH less sensitive to temperature than plastic

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>>30797816
>Lancer for under 20.
Botach has them for $16 each plus shipping.

Dat Xmas special tho

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>>30796829
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/ar-15-m16-5-10-rd-223-5-56-magazines-prod68723.aspx
They look ugly with the plastic block but here they are.

>>30796816
Some folks have the opinion that it's better for the mag to break instead of deform, since a deform might go unnoticed and lead to you using said mag in a bad situation.

>>30794993
I just got some mags from my .mil friend, are they any good or have they just been beaten harder than a marines dick

>>30797832
Why even mention the word windchill? Windchill does not effect equipment.
It's just annoying for me when windchill is mentioned for objects.

>>30794993
I just replaced all my pmags with daniel defenses new 32 round mags. I liked the texture on the mags better, and DD hasnt failed me yet in regards to their proprietary stuff.

Negatives is the cost, and lancers are still great. I would only recommend if you have some disposable income and you wanted grippier mags plus 2 extra rounds, or download to 30 capability.

>>30794993
Yep, they are great. Pmags are good too. It's too bad there isn't a perfect mag. Oh well might as well stock up on both.

>>30798857
actually, the wind chill will tell you how fast the object is cooling. It won't make the plastic any more brittle, but if it's super-low, it could tell you how long you have until the object is at it's most brittle.

>>30798857
Because heat cycles will happen faster in extreme wind chill putting more stress on the materials.

>>30797793
magpul style

>>30794993
>I cant keep my pmags loaded without the feed lips getting deformed...
Haven't had that problem in four years of use.

How are the clear lancers? Are they any more brittle than the opaque ones?

>>30795005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tktaCwTQO8

>>30794993

All magazines should have a slippery Teflon-like coating on the inside to prevent bullets grinding on the inside wall.

Then you've got no problem making them out of steel or aluminum.

>>30800749
Do you keep them fully loaded/partially loaded all the time?

> does anyone have the image picture of making see through holes for metal mags for round counts?

>>30797793

Are we talking about those shitty USGI mags you actually get issued in the military or USGI aluminum mags as a whole for sale to the civilian market?

Because almost all of the latter come with anti-tilt followers now.

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>>30794993
>I cant keep my pmags loaded without the feed lips getting deformed...

>>30796809

...if you do more than casual target shooting you should not be reshaping mags, if gets deformed replace it with another one.

The basic theory according which the polymer mags should at at least in theory preferable mag type over aluminium mags is that: It is possible to dent aluminium mag in such way that it no longer works reliably but the damage is not easy to spot, while if you damage polymer mag in similar extent instead of bending the mag breaks apart and you will notice it. Hence you are less likely to go into battle with mag that does not work properly.

That being the theory and theories do not always work like that in real world. Personally I have H&K steel mags, Magpul 3rd Gen P-mags and latest milspec aluminium mags and I have never had real problems with any of them.

Milspec mags are great value, so they are good to have, while P-mags with ranger plates are nice if one uses mag support from hard surface.

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>I cant keep my pmags loaded without the feed lips getting deformed...

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This is a good thread.

If you use USGI over Lancers or PMAGs you're a fag

Pmags come with dust covers for a reason, they can crack if kept loaded without the cover on. Don't take my word for it, do your own research and make your own conclusions, especially if you trust your life to your guns.

>>30801631
>Pmags come with dust covers for a reason
They haven't for years now.

>>30799198
Can you just take the guts out and put it in a nother mag and make it a 32 round mag? Im not seeing how they get 32 rounds in it without it literally being the spring and follower design. They literally say its the same size and geometry as a standard magazine. Could you try this and take photos?

>>30801683
the gen 3 pmags, which are the current production, each come with a dust cover

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>>30798211
im half surprised the prosthetic extension doesn't have to be orange...

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>>30794993
USGI mags are good but when I was buying ar mags for the first time all I could find was pmags and I couldn't order them because Mayraland. Pmags are literally every where and Cabelas had them on sell cross state lines.

Ar mags are pretty disposable as is. They were never ment to be used forever.

>>30797816
My favorite local store sells the translucent Lancers for 17 dollars each.

>>30801683
I just got 2 G3s in the mail today. They both have covers on them.

>>30800758

>tactical 270 at 0:18

>>30804122

i get 30 round PMag Gen 3 no window magazines for lie $12 at the BX

>>30800758
>>30795005

Lancer mags are total shit

Should be at the bottom of the list.

>>30796829
Look into C Products Defense mags. They make 5,10, and 30 round stainless steel USGI style mags with magpul followers. The 30 rounders usually go for $8-$9. I have 10 that I bought recently. They are built and finished very well.

>>30796829
>>30807517
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/c-products-defense-ar-15-10-round-magazine-223-rem-556-nato-no-tilt-follower-steel-black-1023041178cpd-766897410475.do

http://www.lapolicegear.com/cpd-1023041178cpd-10-223-or-sss.html

http://sgammo.com/product/c-products/30-round-mag-ar-15-223-556mm-c-products-defense-black-stainless-steel-body-anti--0

>>30800592

non living objects don't experience wind chill.

>>30807471
seem pretty great to me

>>30807471

All that butthurt.

Steel feed lips are objectively superior.

>>30807547

lancer followers seem to be shit, though.

i'll take the off chance of stress relaxation affecting my feed lips with PMags.

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>>30807471
Operator's choice

I'm buying the parts for my first AR build. Gonna buy the magazines next in case of future government fuckery; what I'm gathering is that all of the different types have their own pros and cons, so I'm just gonna buy a handful of each and see what works best for me. USGI, Lancers, and PMags are definitely on the list. Are there any others that I should be looking at or are the rest going to be absolute shit?

>>30797902
>>30797863
They are recommended for .300BLK.

I had a shitload of problems with Pmags feeding, and even my USGI went to shit. Might have been my shit ammo as well, but Lancers are just perfect.

>>30799198
Can confirm, these are pretty good, although the rounds seem loose in there a bit.

>>30809928
H&Ks
Troys