This beauty is superior to the F-86 Sabre, be it the early or later F models.
Prove me wrong.
Protip: You can and most likely will but I'm stubborn as all hell
1. Better maneuverability at speeds lower than 850kph because of it being smaller and lighter than the Sabre
2. Superior armament - the Sabre has six M3 .50 cals on the sides of the nose. MiG-15 has two 23mm on one side of the belly of the nose and one 37mm cannon on the other side of the belly
3. Better acceleration because of its thrust to weight ratio being absolutely epic
4. Climbrate. Same reason.
5. High altitude performance and service ceiling.
Sabre's max ceiling - about 12600m
MiG-15's max ceiling - about 15500m
>>30792483
Gun argument is dumb.
The MiG-15 had absolutely shit amount of ammo it was designed to shoot down bombers and has really good at that. .50 cals aka 12.7mm cannons lol x6 with API rounds is devastating to a fighter,but not so much a heavy bomber.
In the end pilot skill,logistics and situational advantage will always trump muh numbers,unless the numbers give one aircraft objectively superior advantage(F-16 vs ME-262 for example)
>>30792483
From what I've read over the years, the F86 and MiG15 are relatively evenly matched. The F86 had better targeting systems, but the MiG had heavier armament. The F86 had a higher dive speed, but the MiG climbed faster.
>>30792543
While yes - Sabre pilots reported seeing 23mm shells above their plane and 37mm below because of how hard it was to aim, I prefer having two 23mm cannons to deal with fighters and the combined force of said cannons and a 37mm gigantic cannon on the other side, it's more versatile. Bombers, fighters, you name it - it can easily get it.
>>30792560
Yes. But I'm taking the smallest details into consideration.
The Sabre was about 40 kph faster (maximum speed that is) than the MiG which is where the impression that it's better in a dive comes from. While it's true that you can ever so slightly outrun a MiG - it's going to take you quite some time to get to above 1100 kph. The MiG will catch the Sabre at first up until the 850-900 kph mark because of its acceleration. Enough time to get a window of opportunity to shoot.
Fcuk you world let's have a new thing to shake things up a bit.
Nene.
>>30792668
Beautiful. I think I've seen the colored version of her stripped like that.
>>30792668
Wings are mounted too high, what is this plane?
>>30792745
One of Kurt Tanks Argentinian designs.
Strangely enough they got the same shot at fast jet as everyone else.
>>30792891
France went this way.
The first guy supersonic in the US in a jet was in a Sabre.
He wasn't an American and he was there about a week before Chucks go.
All good fun.