Hey /k/. I'm looking for some advice. I just bought approximately

Should i wait until after the election to sell? I have a stash of 5.56 and 7.62 im sitting on until November, but I don't know if it's worth waiting with these 7.62x54r. I wouldn't imagine they would go up in price because it's not like they'll be banning Mosins anytime soon, but .22s exploded in price 8 years ago.

when you buy surplus 54r does it come loose or in 5 round clips? is it corrosive?

I'll buy some, where are you located?

>>30774960

nearly all surplus 54r is going to be corrosive

>>30774869
Find a militia and sell it to them

>>30774869
Keep buying x54. Sit on it for 20 years. Not many new guns are being produced in that caliber. Price will only go up

>>30774869
send me some

>>30774869
sell me some senpai i have 20 DP28 pans to fill

Look for ammo retail websitespecially based in your state, preferably small ones.

No big retailer is going to give a shit about 6k rds.

Sell a couple cans to me brah.

How much do you want per case?

>>30774869
kill yourself you pathetic reseller piece of human garbage

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>>30777652
Careful there, you might cut yourself.

>>30774869
Haven't read thread yet but I would take at least half of that OP. How do I contact you?
Also would be interested in getting my hands on a couple thousand rounds a month. Can't find it around here and I'm to tinfoil to buy online.

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>>30777652
>dont sell things for a profit

>>30777652
Awe. is little guy mad cause he doesn't have the capitol to buy low and sell high?
Protip you lazy fuck..go make some money and then use that money to make more.

Fucking bernie voters make me sick....when do we get to purge marxists from our world?

>>30779572
It's not that he's trying to make a profit, it's that he is one of many that were responsible for drying up ammo reserves to the point that I couldn't shoot .22 with my kids or find a box or two of 54R to have on hand for my Mosin, and had to choose between having 5.56 rounds on hand or enjoying some target practice. Those dudes basically took my hobby and shit on it, either by trying to play games with the resale cycle OR out of panic that these assholes created.
If you want to stockpile for your own stash or target practice, fine. If you want to buy up shit so that no one else can access it at any price, or buy 500 bricks of .22 and creep the WalMart shelves every day, create a bubble, and then hope to sell later, don't be surprised when people wait for your bubble to burst and just leave you with your stockpile.
I felt the same way about the LGS guys who stalked local WalMart shelves every morning on the way to work and sold the same ammo that day at a 200+% markup.
So...you bought it, enjoy it. Shoot it, store it for the apocalypse, whatever. If you want to sell it, I'm not buying from some random dude as long as I can get it elsewhere, unless the random dude is just dumping it at a bargain basement price.
Although I abhor gun control in any form, there was a period of time when the thought ran through my mind that I wouldn't mind a law against private ammo resales by anyone who didn't get it straight from the manufacturer, just because there were almost two fucking years of people playing around to be middle men and I had to cut down my shooting.
Just like ticket scalping, so I can't even get tickets for a local university football game because they sell out in ten minutes online, then dozens of guys are in front of the stadium with a fistful of tickets for twice the face value. Would love it if no one bought from them at all and left them stuck with their sorry ass "investment."

>>30779548
>>30777303
>>30777258
>>30777083
>>30776969
>>30775664

If there's some genuine interest in buying it I'll post my email I use and we can talk.

>>30780261
Not gonna pay gunbroker prices for it, but if the price is decent enough I'd buy.

>>30780254
I understand what you're saying, but the prices don't just go up because of private sales. The manufacturers and gun dealers up the prices because people think there is going to be a ban and are then willing to pay more. While there is some truth to the market lead scarcity bit, 95% of price increases are due to artifical scarcity. .22 production dropped significantly on top of the buy outs so that's why .22 went from a few cents a round to almost .18 in some places.

>>30774869
Wait until the next time the ATF tries to ban it, then sell.

>>30780287
If anyone wants to contact me
[email protected]

I sell all kinds of ammo if you want something other than the 54r as well. I just got a few cases of GI .30-06 ball and i can get crates 7.62x39 easier than a case of cokes.

>>30780365
What are the rates

>>30780353
I've seen too many guys get burned on long term gun and ammo investments. That's where I do a lot of my purchases. Not even joking, I've bought 54r from people who bought pallets of it back when it was dirt cheap who planned on sending their kids to college with it. The thing with 54r, and a lot of non intermediate cartridges, is that it will never drastically increase in value. If .270 or 54r went to $60 a 20, like .260 ammo is, people are going to just stop shooting it. That means the demand is going to plummet. It's not a good idea to long term invest in any ammo, but especially if it is an uncommon non intermediate rifle round.

>>30780429
>It's not a good idea to long term invest in any ammo,

So all of the cases of .22LR that I bought for $15.99 i should feel bad about?

hey, anon, it's speculation like anything else. If you could go back in time and buy 54R for $49 a can, wouldn't you buy a shitload of it?

answer: You sure would.

Surplus ammo after WW2 was so fucking plentiful it was almost ridiculous. I would give a redundant organ to be able to pop back in time to see that stuff and load up semiloads of it. Now, guess what? the things that are already manufactured are being used up!

This is why a 1968 camaro gets $30k and up but I bought mine for $3000 when I was 16.

Ammo is an EXCELLENT way to invest if you ask me.

>>30780304
Not altogether true, but I get your point.
When the worst of it hit a few years back, I could find the price tags on the empty WalMart shelves indicating that price really hadn't gone up much on 9mm, 5.56, .45, or .22. There just wasn't any to be had, because of private scalpers.
Artificially screwing with supply and demand is what caused it. Most manufacturers were making more of it than ever, but there was none to be found.
If a million jackasses start buying up all the toilet paper at once, leaving none on the shelves, you'll pay $5 a roll to a guy on the side of the road or Craigslist because you gotta have it, not necessarily because you're shitting more. They then spend their jobless free time buying up more TP, keeping themselves in business and keeping their own prices high.
I had no end of annoyance at the LGS guys, though - they used to joke openly about their WalMart stalking keeping traffic coming in the door and buying their lunch every day. They turned it into a competition, each employee would go to a different WalMart and buy literally everything except shotgun shells.
I just cut back my shooting, because I wasn't about to support that shit. But I resent it and they lost my business for future gun or ammo purchases.

>>30779974
I'd think you're the sanders cuck with not know how economies work. Your buyout creates artificial demand which in turn causes prices to adjust and inflate causing more panic buys furthering the demand. This only causes a bigger down stream problem for those who don't want to buy bulk now or invest in something like ammo (stupid position really). I'm pretty sure this guy was just relating you to the scum that caused the 22 issue.

>>30780365
Also interested in rates without giving even a throw away email to the atf.

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i love that people stock the shit out of ammo. That means it is going into civvie hands and getting squirreled away. The ammo companies just make more. This drives the antigunverment fucking crazy, bad enough that they assraped the last known lead producer in the USA to go out of business because of "air cleanliness" standards.

Guns don;t work so well without ammo, and if ammo is under every bed and in every closet htroughout the USA then I think that's a wonderful thing. Keep buying it because they will keep making it... we still can.

Capitalism and free trade are nice too because then we can buy things from our friends.

>>30774869
Sell it off before the election. If Trump wins import bans from Russia will be lifted so the 54R prices will drop, if Clinton wins it will probably remain the same price anyways.

>>30780533
nah, more just gets manufactured and when the people buying it up panic because the value eventually goes down they sell it low to get out.

The only thing that creates your scenario is raw materials running out, or restrictions. As long as free trade exists there will always be some tom dick or haryy making more ammo, and there are a bazillion little ammo reloaders/resellers all over the USA, thankfully. It is capitalism that keeps the prices low, not restricting who buys what. Do you really want a Wal-Mart 5 boxes minimum everywhere?

>>30780484
The difference is I would buy a bunch of it to keep for my own needs and desires, maybe to share with a friend, not to create artificial scarcity and hope to benefit from it.
It isn't that I'm opposed to profit, I'm opposed to a bunch of amateur middle-men creating a fucking black market style situation that ultimately fucks over every other gun owner.
You guys are the parasites of the gun world, and I hope you step on a Lego every day of your life. A small, sharp one, while barefoot of course.

>>30780584
Take it easy, Bernie, I plan to shoot the .22 that I purchased, if that helps you calm down a little.

>>30780254
If you honestly believe that the manufacturers of 22lr shipped 30% or 40% of their product outside of the USA instead of selling it here for a massively higher profit when you discount the shipping burden you're a fucking idiot.
The lack of 22lr was forced by the fed gov to limit the amount of ammo our kids had. It was an effort to stymie the entrance of youth into sport shooting.

Remember during President Obama's last election cycle when all the democrats said they were already attacking the availability of ammunition since they couldn't get any gun legislation passed? Well they have and are,
Here is a prediction, even if Hillary fails to steal the election with the diebold machines George Soros sold us you will see the prices of ammunition in blue states SKYROCKET in blue states. I fucking guarantee this.

>>30780643
Yes. the lead production shutdown was one phase of this attack. Disgusting.

>>30780261
>>30779548 (You)
I couldn't have been more genuine OP. I will take half of that for a reasonable price, give me a fair price and we could do a lot of business.
** I am not a felon nor do I associate with felons. I grudgingly follow all the unconstitutional laws and regulations the fascist marxist leftists have burdened shooting enthusiasts with.

>>30780699
>>30780365
Yeah, go ahead and email me and we'll talk.

Same goes for anyone else. Just get a hold of me if you want to talk prices.

>>30780429
Not OP
>It's not a good idea to long term invest in any ammo
You couldn't possibly be more wrong. I have ammo sitting in my warehouse that cost me +/- $230,000 over the last 12 years that I have full confidence I will sell for a minimum of $750,000 in the few weeks after Hillary Clinton wins in November.
People who bitch about the price of things when demand exceeds supply are nothing more than lazy cunts who never plan ahead. It's their own fault they didn't work hard enough long enough to get out in front of life a little bit. I grew up a complete poorfag but made god damn sure I ain't going into the dirt that way. Grow the fuck up and make something of yourself.

>>30780563
>i love that people stock the shit out of ammo. That means it is going into civvie hands and getting squirreled away.
American civillians hold more ammunnition than NATO. Maybe more than the DoD and Russian military combined.
Remember, during the three largest hunting seasons in the US civilians create a group of capable rifleman six times larger than the US standing military reserves.

>>30780584
>It isn't that I'm opposed to profit, I'm opposed to a bunch of amateur middle-men creating a fucking black market style situation that ultimately fucks over every other gun owner.
Doesn't it ever get exhausting? Being a socialists and hating everyone who works to make a profit.
You think it's fine that everyone has a nice stash of ammo except for the people who can afford the biggest stashes...kek.

>>30780656
North American 22lr manufacturers are exporting almost three times as much against domestic sales than they were 10 years ago.
What this means is even though production has doubled they are offering much less on the open market in the US even though it's much more profitable to sell it here once you add in shipping and distribution costs.
Why the fuck does an entire industry do this anon. Can you tell me one food reason for them to willingly accept this gouge out of their profits.

I know what I'm talking about. My family owns one of the largest online ammunition sites online. I personally have walked the production floors of every major producer in the US and many overseas. The American ammunition market is being strong armed by the Obama administration and that have agencies like the IRS, SEC and EPA to get the quiet compliance from the company owners and boards of directors. Wake the fuck up, stock the fuck up and above all else STFU.

>>30781338
Yeah, my dad works for Nintendo and i got that justin beiber please believe it.

>>30780835
I believe the other poster was talking about ammo that doesn't have staying power. Stocking up on 9mm para, 7.62x39, 5.56, etc is smart because it's not going anywhere. Stocking up on 7.62x54r, hunting calibers, and the like isn't smart because when or if the ammo starts to dry up people are just going to move to a new caliber. Stock up on ammo, but do it wisely. It's just like buying stocks. You have to know what's going to stay and go up and what's going to fall out.

>>30781338
Want to buy a few million rounds of Pakistani ammo? :^)