HMG Sturmgewehr

>>30772137
I would love one if i had the money.

>>30772137

Most likely I will but what is the deal with 7.62x39? Can it use AK mags?

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>>30772148
What caliber would you go for?

>>30772241
At first? Not sure. but I would get uppers for both 8mm Hertz & 7.62x39 eventually. Assuming it doesnt tank hard before i could manage it.

>>30772209
Well they say the models all use stanag mags so I'd assume thats a no go. At least their spare mags aren't really terribly pricey.

>>30772137
I want one. They'd better submit one to the RCMP for an FRT.

>that shitty looking stamping

eeww

>>30772137
How much?

>>30772297
about 2k for the pre order. unsure on current pricing.

>>30772137
Like 90% of the wehraboos on /k/

>>30772297
$1,799.99 starting out for the STG-N in any caliber.

>>30772270
I will probably start out with 7.62 and would like 8mm but I don't know if I could justify $450 for a cartridge I'll probably very rarely shoot.

>>30772293
Nigger, stamping is the primo apex of metallurgical art.

>>30772137
>>30772241
Look guy, we know you are part of the production team just from your photo names.

We aint gonna buy that shit if its over $800. And that is top fuckin dollar. Another pretty much deadnuts requirement is that it has to be in 7.62x39, which should of been a given seeing as 7.65Kurz is its predecessor.

This STANAG blasphemeous bullshit needs to stop. Aint no one wants to shoot 33cpr shit out of a $2k lookalike STGay16.

And buy a higher-tonnage metal press. Shit looks like a fuckin Matchbox car from Taiwan with those soft-ass folds and stamps.

>charging this much for a stamped steel weapon

what the fuck

>>30772270
>>30772458

Two people in this thread managed to fuck up the name of 8mm Kurz. Or 7.92x33 Kurz if you prefer.

Either way, you are both disappointing, and should lurk more.

>>30772137
Wow they really need to work on that finish.

If they expect somebody to be happy with a $2k purchase it better not look like shit.

>>30772479
It's a niche. It's supposed to look like an ugly piece of shit pieced together in a rush , because that's what the originals were
but it was first and it was German, so there's a few customers there

>>30772479
To be fair they are a pretty small shop which does warrant the higher price. I believe there is another company doing new production imports for $5k.

>>30772528
>asking somebody to spend $1800 on a semi auto that shoots intermediate caliber cartridges
>when they say "it looks like shit" the justification is "well the originals were so..."

>>30772293
you need to stop doing this, you are the guy that picks out normal things and then says "eeww"

are you a girl or just sensitive?

>>30772551
It's not meant to compete with modern rifles.
It's meant to be a working model of the old MP-44. The different calibers are just so people can actually shoot it from time to time, instead of waiting for the once-every-3-years run of 7.92x33 that Prvi does

I would in 300blk

>>30772361
>like a gun that just so HAPPENED the be used by the germans for 1 year
>heh must be a wehraboo

Lets be honest kid you are fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.

>>30772583
Yeah man I get that, but you have to understand who would want to buy a rifle that looks like shit? Especially one for that much?

Don't get me wrong, they look pretty cool and I am still considering getting one, but slapping something together because "it's supposed to look like shit" is modern art tier retardation.

I'm not paying money for an art-piece, I'm paying money for a fucking weapon.

>>30772583

I'll take obvious shit for 500 Alex.

>Your question is, what is an easy way to become independent from over priced factory ammo, and get better ammo in the process?

What is handloading, alex?

>>30772458
this.

>>30772631
>What is handloading, alex?
>valuing your time so little that you won't buy factory ammo
if you enjoy it, have fun
but in rounds that cost less than .30-06, fuck that
I don't have a lot of free time, and market rate is more than that

On a side note how is a mosin for a starting fire arm

>>30772619
This isnt even pasta, ive checked. Wtf dude

>>30772583
SO instead of 50000 people buying one for $800, you want to charge damn near as much as a SCAR17 for a "historically correctly looks-like-shit" rifle in a non-historically correct caliber, whom your customer-base is now projected to be only 0.1%? Great business thoughtprocess.

You'll be under after the first 20 are produced and sold.

>>30772619
Jesus christ

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yeah if it doesn't take AK or AR mags and it's over $1000 it's gonna flop.

>>30772458
Yeah, a couple of photos pulled from TFB make you a production team member. Damn you are salty.

>>30772681
nah I've seen it before

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>>30772667

>my time is valuable
>shitposts of 4chin
>complains ammo is hard to find.

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>>30772137
Preordered in January
Wont be out intill early/mid September
Mfw

>>30772773
Which part of STANAG mags didn't register there for you?

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>>30772831
Nigga please. I won't buy your shit if it's 50% off at my local fun store just cause you said that.

>>30772137
Maybe a year after they have been out, and they have gained a rep of being really reliable and sturdy instead of a beer can gun that looks cool.

Tl:dr if it is good enough for its cost then I might.

>>30772137
honestly looks kind of dumb

>>30772137
>plastic bits and fake wood
>that weird flimsy looking metal
whats the point

>>30772137
OMG A MUTILATED AK47

>>30772137
but does it even have roller delayed blowback

also literally every part of it needs a new finish what the fuck thats ugly as sin

>ruining a fine german design with shitty american magpul mags too

jesus
fucking christ

>>30772137
You all sure talk a lot of shit for NEVER EVER having the capability of producing your own reproduction Stg-44.

>>30772458
>we
Fuck off, I'm buying one

>>30772137
The fucking .22lr copycat that came out a couple years ago looks way better then this piece of shit. All that plastic on whats supposed to be an all metal and wood gun plus they want close to $2k for it?

Fuck. That. Shit.

>>30774671
That plastic is there for Hk trigger packs which are 20 million % better than the stg 44 triggers

>>30774699
It doesn't fucking matter. Its fucking plastic on a gun that shouldn't have any.

>>30772365
>1799.99 starting out for the STG-N in any caliber.
That's pretty tempting.

>shit stamping
>shit wood
>plastic triggers
>$2k

Wehrboos btfo

Im not big on the light coloured stock. Also, the stamping doesnt look overly sharp it isnt as sexy as a proper one

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>>30772137
im even just excited for the M16 compatible magazines

i want an stg44 magazine for my ar15 just to freak people out.

>>30772137
Zero interest from me. Old gun designs are like classic cars. Great to admire from a distance but complete and utter garbage to own, maintain, and use. I'm glad designs like this are coming to market so more people can experience how terrible these things were in practical use.

>>30772137
>almost 2k
>shoots and feels like an ak
>reproduction

nty

>shitty repro of a gun that has zero value or aesthetic as a repro to begin with, let alone low quality

no

>>30772137
Well fuck, I hope the final product doesn't look like that with the mix matched finished parts, that looks like ass.

I ordered one in .300 MEMEOUT


>>30772501
The one was probably auto correct.

>>30772458
>no one wants STANAG
Sure, there's another company making a true StG-44 replica that uses original StG-44 mags, the mags cost about $130 for repros though.
The gun also has an MSRP of $5,000 so have it you swarthy shit cunt.

Assuming the ATF ever actually gives them the go ahead.

http://www.el-be-tac.com/usa-exports/

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>>30772137
Yep

>>30772619
Holy fuck I just witnessed a pasta in the making.

>>30772137
>Repro of a niche gun
>In a different caliber
>With shitty wood
>With shit finish
>And a plastic trigger
>And probably crap metal that will break after 5000 rounds
>And 2K fucking dollars for something that costs probably $200 for them to make if that
Yeah no

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>>30776745
Oo nice 8mm Kurz there

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwn7M8mWm08

Once again Based Ian proves himself to be right. Create a quality reproduction at the cost of a high price and everything backfires with the product ultimately ending up failing.

This is why we can't have nice things and have to deal with relentless outsourced and farmed out AR-15 garbage filling up the gun industry that moves at a glacial pace.

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>>30772619
nice job m80

>>30774320
This. Thanks for beta testing it for me losers. Hopefully I can get one before HMG goes into bankruptcy due to it not selling enough.

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>>30773199
Are you retareded?

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>>30776891
Nutn tier autism?

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>>30776858
I try and buy a few here and there

>>30772825
December here bro. Sarah at hmg said "yours will be in the first batch" when I called last week. I understand this shit takes time but fuck I wanted this thing in june.....I'm betting November

>>30776998
HMG is always fucking late on delivery. My CETME was delivered like six months late.

>>30777019
Does it run though? I saw the vid of the shooting of the original full auto version and apparently those things are hit or miss. Making a bad design work may have been that delay...who knows..

>>30777033
Yeah. I bought into too much of the hype though. I though it was going to be really nice like my PTR but in 5.56.

It only runs well with the mags it came with. USGI Aluminum stanags are hit and miss.

I like my bargian bin mid length freefloat 600 dollar ar15 build much better and miss the modularity and nice recoil impulse, ergonomics and features the ar15 has.

Ill probably sell it on gunbroker when people start scalping the prices on them.

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>>30772619
Saved

>>30772137
The price needs to drop significantly from $1800 for me to consider one.

>>30772137

The wood is not at all like the one on the original models.

And Stanag mags is ugly and dumb. I do not want to tacticool it, I just want a good copy of an old rifle, damn may be those magpull faggots

>>30772681
>>30776749
>literally google "fresh off the boat from reddit" and see this pasta as the first result
hello summerfriends

>>30776927
I would say that is enough for one good afternoon.

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>>30778436
Figure 300 rounds will be a good first day to test a new rifle. I have 5 mags coming for it since the kurz mags are slightly different than the others.....look at this smug son of a bitch. I want my rifle hmg

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>>30772619

>>30772137
i would if i legally could

one in 8mm and one in 7.62x39

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>>30772619
This is fucking great, finally some fresh pasta.

>>30772137
I'm honestly much more interested in a semi FG-42.

7.62x39 is tempting but I feel like a good Vz58 would be the bees knees

>>30772458
I'm buying one, poorfag

>>30774577
The original STG-44 was gas operated.

The STG-45 was roller....

>>30779476
>I'm honestly much more interested in a semi FG-42.
http://smgguns.com/
.308 or 7.92? they sell both

>>30774707
I'm actually of the opinion that modular trigger packs are a profound improvement.
If your mileage varies someone will undoubtedly make a metal lower for it so you can wehr while you boo

>>30772619

>psssshhhh.... nothing personnell, kid

>>30777033
Mags were by and large the biggest problem with the CETME L's. The mags were generally shit.
Plus they don't run USGI's well without modification.
Spanish troops used to police the shit out of USGI mags whenever they were interoperating with US/NATO allies, despite having to modify them to work reliably

>>30772137
It's cool, especially in 7.62x39. But I am holding out for the Mp40 semi auto in 9mm

>>30779270
>random Stg dug up from a warehouse where its been sat for 50 years
>ends up in the hands of someone who's just going to use and abuse it
>still looks better than a brand new one made in the US

>>30779527
>http://smgguns.com/

God 4g's is alot to justify for a stamped gun

>>30779579
if it bothers you, you can spray it in black hi-temp paint.
No different than what the East Germans did for that one

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>>30772619
Thank you for that trip to my distant past anon. I just heard the sounds of dialup in my head

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>>30772137
>Are you getting one
The WW2 buff in me demands that I do, but there are other purchases I would like to make beforehand (PTR-91 with some nice glass, M1 Garand to let freedom ping, building an AR with a Strike Eagle, and a couple of pistols).
It seems cool, but imho nothing more than an overly expensive rangetoy/ conversation piece for right now, at least until reviews are in and I'm outta college and in a career where I have money to burn.

>>30772137
if they make one with rails i'll get it.

I'd only buy one if they made it look more like the real thing.
The reproduction doesn't have as much detail as the original.

It's like comparing a Thompson M1 to a Spitfire Fox Carbine.

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>>30772619
Dank meme senpai

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>>30780936
>>30779538
>>30779461
>>30779353
>>30777118
>>30776870
>>30776749
>>30772681
>>30772756
Summerfags need to leave

>>30780298
Their front sight comes off and a railed mount goes in if you are into that kinda thing

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>>30772137
MFW I've had mine on pre order since day 1

>>30779585
Here we go again. dumb people experiencing Sticker shock on steep reproduction prices as soon as they see the product for sale. People like you are the main reason repros in general are so expensive.

Everyone is willing to jump on the bandwagon of begging for repros but when the final product comes out they just want to compare the final cost to a bargain bin rifle.

By the way this reproduction is extremely high quality and every single part is as high or higher quality than the original German design. The 1.8lb receiver is even milled from a 13lb block of 4140 steel.

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>>30772619
saved for posterity

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>>30772619
>4chan
>intelectual discussion
Pick one

>>30774671
I bought one of those off a kommando a few months back. It feels good and shoots straight, no failures or regrets so far. This new one looks like ass by comparison.

>>30774671
What plastic? The gun is all metal... pressed / stamped steel receivers, on a steel trunion, Only the mag will be plastic.

The 22lr shit show is all die cast molded and plastic which is why it was like $500.00

>>30783071
>>30783109
>tfw I got one brand new for $350 w/ spare mags and the optic rail

This HMG repro is a great concept, but they really need to work on finish if they expect somebody to walk into a gunstore and feel the compulsive urge to buy it.

I'm sure the finaly product will look pretty good, but why anybody would even take that awful of a picture of one is beyond me. It seriously looks like shit and nobody is going to want to spend $1800 on something that looks like ass unless there is some genuine historical value to it.

>>30783431
the 22lr is basically an airshit gun that can shoot 22lr,

As for the HMG, that's wrong with the finish? I agree that the wood sucks, but that can be switched out with repros or originals

>IB4 for $1,800.00 that shit should already be done for you!!!

ehh... not a big deal for me as I already got a replacement stock set on the way... and will probably switch out the dust cover if the prototype one is what ships...

The only thing I wish they would come out with is a Metal mag though

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>>30783521
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>>30775480
>Old gun designs are like classic cars. Great to admire from a distance but complete and utter garbage to own, maintain, and use.

kill yourself nigger

>>30776696
i can tell you know nothing about the production of the gun

>>30779476
semi FG 42 is shit because the firing pin is connected to the charging handle and when you pull the trigger it throws your shot off, much like an open bolt gun

>>30772137
They look really gay. At least the .22lr versions are close to the originals. These look really shitty and really don't do the mp43/44 justice. I would love to have one in 7.92x33