Neil Degrasse Tyson joins Pentagon Innovation board.

I hope this is in preparation for Black Science Man to explain the Pentagon's energy weapons or force shields.

>>30771019
No. Tyson is a fucking celebrity and doesn't know shit about national defense. He is very liberal and will probably tell us we should abolish our nuclear stockpile. I want to be a physicist myself and I don't listen to him much. He is humble but there are certain subjects he should not be commenting on.

>>30771019
Ash Carter has done nothing right during his term. He's adding unnecessary bureaucracy and unwanted social policies.

>>30771019
Tyson is a fucking idiot though. He's king of the plebeians for christs sake! He makes dumb science for even dumber people.

>>30771161
Yes. Like I said above he is more of a celebrity than a good physicist. I have noticed that the majority of the people who listen to him are fucking idiots, and take everything he says as end all be all.

>>30771126
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>>30771019
air force might see some use working with him the other branch I highly doubt, give him a rifle and he will stare at with blank face all day long

>>30771019
>weapons
Non leathel ones or satellite weapons...

You do realize this is just a way to get normies to like the DoD more, right?

>>30771126
Pretty much this. Hell, even in his field, he is only there due to affirmative action.

>>30771019

I think it's great, I'm sure he'll pioneer the advancement of using dark matter for weapons

>>30771019
Oh great. The living meme is in charge of protecting the United States.

>>30771695
No, that would be the commander in chief 's job.

>>30771677
Fuck off back to r e d d i t

>>30771724

Never been, just a sucker for obvious racist joke opportunities

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>>30771019
>liberal black science guy hired by liberal pentagon for "defense innovation"

How can we fuck up the Army more than it already has? Sex with a woman is rape if she "wanted to say no", sex with a woman who had any amount of alcohol is rape, staring at a woman over 10 seconds is sexual harrassment, Woman are in the infantry because delusional people declared them capable with zero proof, trannies can openly join the military and get a free sex change.

Fucking progressives will destroy everything intelligent men worked hard to create and once we're squatting the burning rubble the feminists and cucks will probably blame us for letting them run things.

>>30771667
Exactly. He is only popular due to his skin color. Liberal millennials like him and he appeals to them because of their stupidity.

>>30771761
To be fair, "BECAUSE ITS MY RIGHT" has never been a good idea to do things.

It's your right to light yourself on fire, does that mean you should do it?

It shouldn't go "I need a gun because 2a", it should go "2a exists because I need my guns"

He's a fake scientist.

He's a ballroom dancer. That's what he majored in.

>>30771890
explain Carl Sagan then

>>30771761
I hate NDT and other celebrity scientists so much for this crap. He takes a pedantic approach to movie critique, acting as if the general populace is incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality. He's a giant black hole, sucking the fun out of the universe.

Then there's this nonsense when he dabbles in politics and shit he knows nothing about.

NDT is an anti-gun numbnut who only backs up his claims with rhetorical bull.

Bill Nye is also anti-gun, and is a global warming alarmist.

The only celebrity scientist I've seen who hasn't turned down this road is Michio Kaku.

>>30771902

This man speaks truth, I'll find a better worded way of using this next time (literally never because I live in TX) I'm challenged on guns

>>30771126
He really shouldn't comment on anything outside his field

>>30771902

Right, but the idea behind having rights is that they are yours. Why have a second amendment if I can't do it just because I can? Is it a good idea to OC at the RNC? No. But if it isn't illegal, the governor shouldn't be able to suspend that right because it's a 'high profile' situation. Kasich realized this and did not disallow OC at the RNC (still wish he had started sooner, if he had he might have gotten the nomination instead of the shitbag trump). That's what a right is. You can be stupid with it. It's not a privilege. That's the point.

>>30771925
What about him?

>>30771951
>Why have a second amendment if I can't do it just because I can?
You have the right to light yourself on fire. Why aren't you doing that?

>>30771925
He only wrote a couple letters to Sagan. Wasn't actually friends with him. It was a lie

>>30771965

That's a logical fallacy and you know it.

>>30771961
he white and just as popular as tyson

>>30771947
>he is humble

well not really anon. He's not bashful about belittling anyone who doesn't toe his specific school of thought.

>>30772002
>That's a logical fallacy and you know it.
So's "I should do it because it's my right".

Why is it your right in the first place? Without a good answer to that, it's gonna get taken away,

inb4
>i-its god-given, muh natural rights, r-read lokke
Not really a good answer. A common answer, a meme answer, but not a good enough one to stop Cali and NY and eventually the fed from grabbing all your dinky AR15s.

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>>30771925

Carl Sagan was popular because he was the first scientist/astrophysicist/whatever his title was to get a lot of screen time, and had such an imaginative perspective on things. The period of time in which he was popular had a lot to do with it too. Instead of stating facts or predicting impossible things like "in 20 years man will have bases on Mars" like they did in the 60s, he spent a lot of time being imaginative and urging his viewers to explore, and think of things from different perspectives, like instead of how mighty our space program is, how infinitely insignificant our whole species is, yet at the same time how important it is that we not let ourselves fade into oblivion. That and some people (myself included) found his voice calming and soothing, which helps when he's stirring up your brain pudding.

Millennials have latched onto Sagan (if that's what you're referring to by asking to explain Sagan's popularity among millennials) because most millennials have embraced imagination and creativity, to a fault sometimes, in that they're willing to embrace the fanciful over the factual out of optimism which may or may not be misguided

>>30772039
Well said

>>30772039
>Carl Sagan was popular because he was the first scientist/astrophysicist/whatever his title was to get a lot of screen time,
And Tyson was the second. It's not his race, it's that he appeared in a bunch of PBS shows and such. David Suzuki back in the day had a similar story to Sagan and Tyson, too.

Similar for Michio Kaku, he's another pop physicist. He's not popular because he's a chink, he's popular because he has an easy to read best-selling book that's available for cheap.

>>30771890

Back to /pol/ with you.

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>>30772083
>expecting an american gun nerd forum to not be basically just a worse version of /pol/
u mite have fucked somethign up along the way in ur life

>>30772004
Just as popular because, once again, he appeals to a certain crowd. Generally dumb young liberals who have little to no background in the STEM field. There is no denying that Tyson's race makes him more popular than he should be.

>>30772038

I could argue with your rampant bullshit. I could. I don't care enough to invest the time. I'm just pointing out the fact that you don't see a difference between a right and a privilege. You don't have to justify a right to people. You have to justify a privilege. That's the difference. At least take that away. I know what you're saying. Appearing reasonable to anti gunners may be priority for you, but it's not for me. I do try to be friendly, and I accept everyone's viewpoints. Not only that, I listen and try to comprehend antigun arguments. But the cold numbers are there. This week is a great example. 19 dead in japan from a knife attack, multiple shootings and stabbings across europe. Gun/weapon control will not save lives. It never will. People determined to kill will kill. By limiting access, you are only increasing the odds that more people will be victims.

>>30772143
>rampant bullshit
this is why americans basically have no actual rights anymore

you're really bad at justifying them, so the government just walks all over you

enjoy clinton grabbing your guns

>>30772174

You don't have to justify rights you fucking mongoloid. If you're too stupid to understand that you don't deserve rights.

>>30772189
>You don't have to justify rights you fucking mongoloid.
How else do you think you get granted rights? Law is just a series of contracts, you need some negotiation skills if you wanna avoid getting fucked over.

>>30772081

I dunno if it's so much about the book you're talking about, which I don't know the title of and I'm sure isn't his only one, vs his having been on many programs for years, offering his opinions or just explaining stuff, and like Sagan, has a certain way of talking about things where he can simply explain complicated things, while also giving creative examples and offers different possible outcomes that make people think more. Doesn't mean he doesn't have valid points. I think sometimes people hate anyone who's popular, and while I generally hate the mainstream, I think Michio Kaku is pretty damn legit. Tyson is not as legit, though, and I guess that's while we're all here, but though I don't know much about his personal opinions about things which is why y'all may or may not like him, even if he is a "pop physicist" if he leads more people to get into science, even if most who did because of him find out "they don't think it be like it is but it do", the few who do continue furthering scientific development will further us anyways. I'd rather have "pop physicists" with a 25% success rate in furthering scientific contributions of this generation than pop-literally anything else on tv/social media with any higher success rate

>I'm getting drunk so that might not make as much sense to you as it does to me

>>30772038
>a meme answer

WHAT IS THE CONSTITUTION

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

how much more concrete do you want it? The feds are breaking the law and committing treason, it does not mean we need to play along with their bullshit all the way to disarmament, fampai. The constitution is not supposed to be a flexible, objective, wishy washy old piece of paper.

>>30772210

Except the rights granted in the US constitution are inalienable rights that all men and women have at birth. That is the basis of this country and the core ideology. You aren't granted rights. You have them from birth. Stop thinking like a fucking peasant.

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>>30771761
I don't mind Tyson, but he's wrong on this.

>>30772083
Funny guy. I hate /pol/, I just have enough sense to see that Tyson is a shitty physicist who has contributed very little to any field of physics and is popular only because of his skin color. This does not make me a racist.

>>30772225
>WHAT IS THE CONSTITUTION
A piece of paper that no one even cared about until like a hundred years after it was written.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Except all those times it was already infringed and shall continue to be infringed.

Do you demand a jury for every court case where more than 20 bucks is at stake, too? Because that's another "inalienable right" some white boy wrote down.

>>30772245
>the rights granted in the US constitution
>You aren't granted rights

So which is it?

>>30771019
Didn't he blame terrorism on global warming or something?

>>30771761
He's not wrong. Constitutional inertia is not a particularly strong defense for any given argument.

>>30772245
Women and niggers (and jews and wops and basically anyone else who wasn't a rich land-owning protestant) didn't have those rights when the constitution was written, actually.

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>>30772253
he's a cocky socialist atheist gun hating meme spouting pillow punching mommy baby who got a free ride and his picture in a magazine as HNIC of the hi-skool science fan club.

he is not an innovative, creative scientist and thousands of better qualified, more intelligent scientists go to work every day that would be a shitload better to listen to than this guy.

>>30772294
And they shouldn't have those rights.

I like Tyson because he pisses off /pol/ for no other reason than simply being a smart black man with media presence.

Observe: >>30772301

>>30772245
Very few of the shit we call "rights" today are actually guarrenteed by the constitution.

>>30772038
>Why is it your right in the first place? Without a good answer to that, it's gonna get taken away,

Why do we support a State that does not benefit us in the first place? Without a good answer we might as well stop paying taxes today.

>hurr citizen give us your money for state sanctioned terrorism over seas, corporate bail outs, welfare brides to prevent revolts, and to pay the salaries of the thugs who take you money and "contraband!"

>>30772276
You're right, I misspoke. This is a good article for you to read that could help you comprehend.

https://www.docsoffreedom.org/readings/equal-and-inalienable-rights

>>30772294

Yes, and the civil war changed that by adopted the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, not only that we have other amendments and governmental forces that actively promote women and minorities in this country. It was a hypocritical document at its inception because there were local, non federal, laws that barred people and they were not seen as a violation of the constitution. Now we have those laws and legal speak in place to protect women and minorities and even empower them.

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>>30772038
False equivalency bruh. Lighting yourself on fire is not equivocal to legally carrying a gun

Lighting oneself ablaze=danger to yourself and others by possibly starting a fire that could hurt more people, and scarring people for life as you burn away

Legally carrying a gun=not brazenly brandishing your weapon and only taking it out of its holster when a threat arises. The worst that could happen would if a wild soccermom gets triggered or you're asked to leave an establishment for OCing.

You do have a point though. The Bill of Rights isn't going to defend itself, and there is rampant revisionism on the anti-gun side regarding the 2A's context, from "Militia only", "Muskets only" and "le slavery" nonsense. There are even supreme court justices who think that the 1st amendment does not apply to individuals.

The 2nd amendment only recognizes your rights. It's as effective as a "gun free zone" sign. Protecting the 2A requires work and vigilance on your behalf.

This guy sums it all up very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXjZoLz2bqc

>>30772189
Don't get hissy mah nigga

>>30772294
>>30772313
People will use similar logic to say "The 2A only applies to muskets!"

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>>30772319

>smart

>>30772301
t. zero education muhreen mutt trying futily to "secure a future for the white race"

>>30772369
>Don't get hissy mah nigga

you explained what I thought about typing out. thanks. I'm just tired and don't give a fuck. we probably won't change any minds.

>>30772319
No you like Tyson because he appeals to the stupid simple general public like you. Tyson is more of a celebrity than a physicist, and there are many more thousands of smarter people in the STEM field who do far better work everyday than him and get no credit.

>>30772276
The constitution protects the God given rights of the American people. You know what he meant but you're purposely being an ass about it.

>>30772346
>Why do we support a State that does not benefit us in the first place?
Exactly. You shouldn't Are you autistic or something? Have arfcom and soverign citizen pamphlets rotted your brain?

>Without a good answer we might as well stop paying taxes today.
A lot of people do that. A lot of people have done that. I wouldn't think it's justified in the US though, what with roads and hospitals and irrigation and shit. Somebody's gotta pay for all that nonsense, it may as well be the end user (i.e. (You))

Though the tactic has had some success in countries with genuinely tyrannical, abusive, or plain ol' incompetent governments.

>>30772417

I actually don't think the rights are given by a god. I just think we have them from birth. And he was right, I was careless with my words. I should have been more specific, even if your sentiment is what I meant.

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>>30772417
>contradicts himself
>being an ass for pointing out his error

Sorry for not wanting you to sound like retards when trying to defend your rights, brah.

>>30772301
That's the truth.

>>30772417
>God gives a fuck about America specifically and only America specifically

Are you Mormon or something?

>>30772432
>I actually don't think the rights are given by a god. I just think we have them from birth.
Then there's no enforcement mechanism, is there?

>>30772389
Lol. The dude called out Tyson and you get mad?

>>30772406
I have a Master of Aerospace Engineering. If you consider me stupid, the pool of people in the world who you consider smart must be pretty small indeed.

>>30772432
>I just think we have them from birth.
So when the liberal elites say you don't have those rights from birth, they are just as "correct" as you are when you suggest that you do have them. Without God, morality is just a bunch of subjective nonsense. It's like trying to plant your feet firmly in mid air.

>>30772486
He's almost definitely a Muhreen. They think it takes massive intelligence to point an M16 at the horizon and pull the trigger.

>>30772497
maybe you better mosey on back to /pol/, son

>>30772461

An idea can be an enforcement mechanism if it is believed by most people. That's the problem. People in the US are being taught like Euros and Asians that they have to subject to the authority and if they can't enforce their rights then why have them. It's ideological though. I don't think most americans will get it or even care. Most care about their day to day humdrum and despise any interruption of that. Just because most Americans do not consider these things, does not mean that isn't what the country was founded on. Because American A decides to be a peasant doesn't mean American B has to be one. It's an oversimplified analogy, but it illustrates my point well enough.

>>30772497

Morality is taught by popular society. Most of our history, popular society is religion, but that has shifted. We know morality now as what is moral and what isn't. We are taught from our family structure and influenced from that more than religion.

>>30772486
If were smart you would not be listening to Tyson. I'm not saying you are stupid. But Tyson dumbs down science to purposefully appeal to, like I said, a simple general public. He is humble, but in technical terms is no smarter than you.

>>30772420
>Exactly. You shouldn't Are you autistic or something? Have arfcom and soverign citizen pamphlets rotted your brain?

you are mentally ill.

>A lot of people do that. A lot of people have done that. I wouldn't think it's justified in the US though, what with roads and hospitals and irrigation and shit. Somebody's gotta pay for all that nonsense, it may as well be the end user (i.e. (You))

hmmm

>>30772486
>a Master of Aerospace Engineering
You mean a Masters IN.

I could say something snarky about educated people being dumb, but....

>>30772536
Typo. I many *purposely.

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>>30772532
>americans literally cannot think of government in anything other than combative terms

You give the government money and trust in exchange for certain services (protection, infrastructure, etc)

The government only gets people to give them that money and trust by proving they'll render the services and guarantee certain liberties. Or they'll limit some liberties to make it easier to supply services demanded (such as limiting the use of snow chains or tracked vehicles on asphalt roads because it fucks them up and increases maintenance costs)

Law and government are just a series of agreements and contracts

Why is this so hard for americans understand

>>30772537
Are you seriously questioning that your taxes go into things like roads and sewer pipes
>inb4 "bbut the fed doesnt pay for the sewers, my city/state does"
this is why separatist movements exist
sorry you're literally dumber than quebec

>>30772083
How about out of /k/ with you? You fucking migrant.

>>30772556
*meant

>>30772394
>we probably won't change any minds.
probably because you're stupid and your arguments are bad

>>30772586
>Law and government are just a series of agreements and contracts
>Why is this so hard for americans understand
Because it invalidates the premise of our fucking civilization.

>>30772486
What was your thesis on? Can you give a short summary?

>>30771019
wtf i hate guns now

>>30772609
>what is the social contract

>>30772539
Note the capitalization, dingus. "Master of Aerospace Engineering" is the title of the degree.

>>30772609
>the premise of our fucking civilization.
which would be...?

>>30772038
>Not really a good answer. A common answer, a meme answer, but not a good enough one to stop Cali and NY and eventually the fed from grabbing all your dinky AR15s.

This desu

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>>30772618
I substituted a certificate in global integrated systems engineering for a thesis, mostly because I dislike writing lengthy papers. The closest I got was a term paper titled "Solutions for Drilling Composite Materials".

>>30772628
>Master of Science in Aerospace Engineering
>Calls his degree the wrong name
>Expects us to believe him

>>30771019
>Do you think an innovation board with members like Neil degrasse tyson is a good weapons development plan?
No. He's educated in his own field but when talking about other things he's wont to make monumentally retarded statements.

Also this is more of a personal thing but I think he's kind of an arrogant twat.

>>30771667
Not affirmative action. That mostly only helps white women. Go look up the stats.

>>30772628
Post your diploma

>>30772665
is the solution "use a harder drill and shitloads of lube"

>>30771928
Bill Nye shills for Origin so he can go to hell.

Why are americans so easy to trigger? Say literally anything about guns, and everyone freaks the fuck out.

>>30772665
This doesn't make any sense. Any Masters or Ph.D. Program worth anything will require research and a thesis for the earning of the degree. Either you are lying or you went to "Insert middle of nowhere here" College and earned a degree worth nothing.

>>30772282

>He's not wrong. Constitutional inertia is not a particularly strong defense for any given argument.

Yes it fucking is you fucking retard.
The Constitution and its amendments are the highest laws of the land.
It's fucking illegal to make gun control laws specifically because of the 2nd Amendment.
Making illegal laws in violation of the Constitution is never a fucking good idea.
It's a complete circumvention of how shit is supposed to work.

You fucking shitkid retard.

>>30772686
no

>>30772696
more or less

>>30772710
Because we are a persecuted minority, and the mere fact that we are being persecuted shows that the rule of Constitutional law is on the skids. And that maybe half the population is just fine with this, and that your privacy and property *and* the Bill of Rights mean less than their feelinz. It's a sort of multi-disciplinary upset.

>>30772713
Where's your degree?

>>30772710

Because you cunts have been doing this to us nonstop for 80 fucking years straight.
You never stop asking for more and more gun control. No matter what we agree to, you always instantly move on to the next thing.
You cannot and will not stop legislating our guns away one step at a time.

>>30772717
My point was that that it is a poor defense from an intellectual level. From a legal lever, it's a pretty good one.

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>>30772740
>we are a persecuted minority,

>white middle class

>persecuted minority

lol

>>30772744
case in point, I didn't even say what I feel about guns and ALREADY this guy is FREAKING OUT about ~le gun grabbers~ lmao

>>30772713
A Ph.D. program absolutely requires a thesis. A masters program doesn't really entail anything more specific than graduate-level coursework.

>>30772771
you should know by now that POS is a certified retard

>>30772771

>case in point, I didn't even say what I feel about guns and ALREADY this guy is FREAKING OUT about ~le gun grabbers~ lmao

Why do you think I care what you have to say or how you feel?
I've decided that you're either a gun grabber or a troll. Anything you say to me in contradiction to that is worthless.
That's a decision that I get to make. You don't.

>>30772796
is that like a pog, are you chimping out over MUH VALOR now or something

>>30772744
this is absolutely correct

>>30772742
Master of Arts in "Go Fuck yourself and stop lying online to people to try to make yourself sound smarter". You like Tyson dude, how smart can you be? The guy is a celebrity and most of his fans are dumb millennials.

>>30772820
Oh, I forgot to answer the man's question. I will be getting my degree from "Insert Southeastern Michigan Highschool here"

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>>30772811
>Why do you think I care what you have to say or how you feel?
Well, you are FLIPPING THE FUCK OUT so that shows me pretty clearly that you care and are HIGHLY OFFENDED even though i havent even said anything of note yet

stay triggered

>pictured: you

>>30772751

What I said isn't just a legal defense, dude.

>>30772820
>>30772840
You sound really amped up. You should go outside now and shoot some blacks to calm down/

>>30772857
It really is, pal.

>>30772710
Because the Americans are actually 100% right about guns, and the rest of the world is fucking wrong.

I support their rights because if I don't, and they disappear, there isn't even a sliver of hope for the rest of the world to see the light of the right to bear arms. they have to stand tall.

>>30772857
What if tomorrow, you had to move away from the US to some other country for work or whatever.

How would you justify your gun ownership there?

>>30772851

>Well, you are FLIPPING THE FUCK OUT
You're the one using caps lock there, buddy.

>so that shows me pretty clearly that you care and are HIGHLY OFFENDED
No, but since trying to offend me is something you use to measure your self worth, I can understand the confusion.

>stay triggered
Would it make you feel better if I pretended to be?
It I turned on my capslock, would that help your self esteem?

>>30772771
>white middle class
He doesn't mean he himself or his genetic/social heritage, you disingenuous spazz, it's a figure of speech.

>>30772878
>Because the Americans are actually 100% right about guns,
Americans think AR15s are bolt-action rifles.

>their
Which country do you live in, nerd? I guarantee there are avenues for you to get a firearm. And PROTIP: The ATF exists in the US. Do you want to deal with the fucking ATF?

>>30772603

Pointing out stupidity without support is irresponsible and more importantly baseless.

>>30772586

>The government only gets people to give them that money and trust by proving they'll render the services and guarantee certain liberties

Yes, this applies to roads, highways, other shit. The bill of rights was constructed as a separate document to be incorporated into the constitution in regard to people and their individual liberties that did not pertain to services. They existed and were guaranteed from inception. For example. You buy music from the app store and apple guarantees you will have access to that music forever. Then 10 years later they block access to your music. because of reason x. That's how the constitution has set up rights and that is how the current government is abusing them. And apparently nobody gives a shit.

>>30772874
No, I am not a racist and have no desire to harm people based on skin color.

>>30772875
Maybe if you're absolutely retarded, and can't understand how using a law to undermine higher law represents philosophical inconsistency, then sure.

>>30772893
*woosh*

>>30772916
Now

what if instead of just parroting MUH 2A

you could actually come up with a reason to tell authorities "no, I actually need these weapons, for [reasons]"

and then they would maybe possibly agree and leave your guns alone instead of incessantly grabbing them

as they are doing RIGHT NOW

>>30772940
I need a firearm so I can have fun. Now go fuck yourself. That is a good enough reason. It is a Bill of Rights not a Bill of Needs.

>>30772926
you were dropped on your head as a child, weren't you?

>>30772909
>Americans think AR15s are bolt-action rifles
Doesn't matter.

>I guarantee there are avenues for you to get a firearm
Of course there are, but they're bullshit and doesn't recognize my personal rights to property or self-defense.

>Do you want to deal with the fucking ATF
Yes, I would much sooner deal with the ATF than I would Rikspolisstyrelsen, because they're a lot more predictable and you can use their own logic against them, you can take Swedish cops to the highest courts on a firearms case and they can still arbitrarily make their own decision afterwards and you're back at square one.

I can be denied my human right because the guy at the club or office clerk at the station doesn't like my face or opinion, and I have no legal way of seeking restitution, explain how that is fair or reasonable in any way?

>>30772962

Oh good, spewing insults because you have no argument.

At least my insults come with an argument sprinkled on top.

>>30772959
>It is a Bill of Rights
It's been ignored before, why not ignore it again?

>>30772406
And what may I ask do you do? What have you accomplished? Certainly a great deal if you can pass judgment on who is a good physicist or not. Get over yourself.

>>30772978
If you're not going to bother making internally consistent arguments, why should I?

>>30772993
I'm an E6, thank you very much.

>>30772940

My argument for that is extensive and tiresome and I don't care to share it. It is probably similar to what you have in mind. But we shouldn't have to resort to that long exhaustive argument. It is a right.

>>30772999

I don't see how it's possible for my one and only argument (intellectual argument, not the legal one) to be internally inconsistent, when my entire argument is just pointing out a philosophical inconsistency that's embarrassingly obvious.

Please explain in detail.

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>>30773007
>It is a right.
Not if the people in charge decide it ain't no mo

>>30772993
That dumbass who said he was en E6 isn't me. I am a full time jack offer, also known as a student taking the summer off. My judgement comes from the fact that far more influential scientists and physicists in the the U.S. have no recognition compared to him. What has Tuson contributed to Physics? Almost nothing. As I said, he is more of a celebrity than a physicist.

>>30773036
So what you're saying is you don't even have a degree but see yourself fit to declare who is or is not a "good" physicist.

Why are americans so self-entitled?

>>30773036
Edit: *the and *Tyson

>>30771752
oh wow I didn't even realize it

>>30773046
>Tries to call me unqualified and arrogant
>Claims all Americans are self intitled

And yes, I can call him a "bad" physicist. As I said, he does very little for any STEM field and spends his days explaining simple shit, which often has little to do with astrophysics to simple people.

>>30771019
Not really. It's a good way to get people interested in involvement.

>>30773036
so because you've spent a semester at Jerk Your Little Weenie-U, you think you know shit about anything? please. and what the fuck do you mean what has he contributed to physics??? haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/curriculum-vitae#research

also, you realize he was an astrophysicist long before he rose to 'celebrity' status right?

>>30773075
Also, I never claimed I am fit to call people good or bad physicists. I simply claimed that Tyson is more of a celebrity than a physicist, which is true.

>>30773138
no he is LITERALLY just a NIGGER they hired off the STREET to appear in shows because they knw that LIBERALS would only watch BLACKS on tv!!

>>30771925
Sagan was a really nice guy, and he was good at making people want to learn more.

>>30773148
0/10 bait. see me after class

>>30773148
DELET THIS

>>30773138
> Assuming I've spent a semester anywhere
> Assuming my High School doesn't have trimesters instead
>Tries to defend a celebrity physicist who is popular among dumb young people who know almost nothing in relation to the STEM field
>Lies on the Internet about his education, can't even name a proper degree
>AND THEN, tries to imply that he thinks he is smarter than me

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>>30773162
Sagan was good at being a liberal fuck and talking about Aliens

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>>30773162
This. He was a genuine enthusiast. He had this warm buttery voice and made you want to know more. He'd start out talking about apple pie and end up talking about how elements were manufactured inside stars. Listening to him was like a drug trip without the drugs. It blew your mind.

>>30773181
>greentexts
>ignores any of the points made
>IM SMART
also, i'm not the original guy you are responding to earlier who said 'masters of...'. way to go retard.

>>30773181
also, you being in high school only proves my point even further. you're not even out of baby school and you think you know anything.

>>30773206
And what were your points exactly? That he used to be an astrophysicist? Who gives a shit. My point is that he is a celebrity scientist who is exempt from any criticism it seems because of dumbasses like you who just accept anything he says as fact. The guy is a joke. Also I have to ask, are you a European?

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>/k/ - White Nationalists and Shitposting

this thread was over in two posts and everything afterwards has been horse diarrhea.

>>30773229
It proves none of your points. I would like to know your level of education and what field it is in. Unless of course you are afraid of disclosing that information in fear of being called stupid.

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>>30773258
>Least I Could Shit
>Ryan Sohmer

God fucking don't, not even an edit.

here, have the real one and a reminder that the guy behind it is one of the shittiest people in the world.

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>>30773294

kabloosh

>>30773255
>>30773238
jesus christ there is no hope for you. you're not even old enough to have known about him before he became popular, so your intellectual hipster attitude just sees him as a 'celebrity'. his job now is an educator, to get people interested in shit other than reality tv shows and the kardashians. you ask what he has contributed, and I gave you a link to his work. yet you are too stupid to even look at evidence that counters your childish worldview, if you can call it that. sadly he's wasted his time on you and your generation. and I am American, BS in Computer Science. so fuck off back to your summer vacation kid

>>30773306
I dunno, the edit is pretty good.

>>30773314
it's being said by a character that NEEDS to choke to death on his own fist.

So not really.

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Oh great. More exposure for a blowhard celebrity jackass who turns his nose up whenever he meets someone who disagrees with him or has faith.

Jesus Christ, what next? Hiring Dr. Beakman to be charge of Homeland Security?

>>30773332
Well, they already have ex-corporate shysters all over the place in govt so he's just joining the shitty bed

>>30773332
Next will be bill nye in charge of homeland security

>>30773294
Fucking hate that canuk cuck, Ryan Sohmer.

>>30773312
The simple fact that you are defending Tyson is proof enough of your stupidity. You are literally dumb enough to not see that he is nothing but a leftwing propaganda spewing fool. This is after all a weapons board, and Tyson is blatantly leftwing. So why are you even here? Tyson doesn't try to get people involved with science but rather tries to display and spread a political bias in many things such as global warming and gun control. You are a typical American millennial, educated just enough to become brainwashed in liberal ideology while in University. There is a difference between common sense and earning a degree, the former of which you have very little. Tyson has contributed only to spreading political misconception and obviously it has worked well on you.

>>30773366
>Bill Nye the Homeland Security Guy!

>>30772439
People who use the term "God given rigjts" generally believe that those rights are universally held by all humans on the globe except those actually commuting crimes or being held accountable for prior crimes (acts of agression.)

No one says that God only granted rights to Americans. The idea is that all people have those rights, but that the ruling regime in every nation that isn't the U.S. is oppressing the people and using force to infringe on the rights that those people were granted by God.

I'm fedora, btw. Don't ask me to defend the concept. Just know that if you can't be assed to understand the mindset of people whom you are arguing against, you come off looking stupid. You might think you have won the argument, but take it from those of us watching from the sidelines, you lost.

>>30773366
"Hey guys Bill Nye the Science Goy here, jihadists are not our main concern. Global warming is because it created ISIS. As such you will need to give up 10% of your income for a carbon tax. This is not just some globalist scam, I can assure you. After all, I do know everything, I'm the science guy!"

>>30772461
I don't need your Skye faiery to enforce my rights for me. I own a rifle.

>>30773393
God given rights means 'natural rights'. It is your natural right to be able to defend yourself.

Like how when your fucking insurance company says something is an 'act of God' they don't literally mean Zeus stuck his dick in your car.

>>30773407
Good luck trying to protect yourself against Hellfire with your puny rifle.

>>30773406
in fairness, Islamic extremists were given a foothold in the middle east literally because of BP wanting muh oil.

>>30773393
>"God given rigjts"
>rigjts
*rights

I hate my fucking phone. Auto correct grossly changes my sentences around, but when I disable it I get shit like that.

Fuck Samsung. LG was better.

>>30771126
>Humble
Yeah, that's one of the last words I would use to describe him.

>>30773429
Yeah you're right. I take that back. Tyson is a liberal arrogant fuck who thinks he belongs with the great physicists of past centuries, even though he hasn't done shit.

>>30773415
Hell, heaven, and God are just fairy tales. Like The Lord of the Rings, and fifty shades of grey. Except slightly less plausible. Also used by more tyrants to help enslave whole nations. No one has ever said I must obey a king or Sauron would get me.

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>>30773464
as an atheist, may I just say shut the fuck up. People like you make people like me look bad and are the reason the 'fedora' meme exists.

>>30773413
Your response is completely meaningless in context to my post. I know what natural rights are. I know that they are universal. I know why all humans have them. All I am saying is that bible fags use the term "God given rights," in exactly the same way secularists would use the term natural rights.

No bible fag, except some Mormons apparently, (I just found this out) thinks that God likes america more than other countries. That was the assertion made in the list post I was responding to.

>>30773493
No.

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>>30773464
>>30773493
nah, you both sound stupid

*tips benis*

>>30773464
>Tries to sound intellectual
>Doesn't even know what the Second Law of Thermodynamics is

>>30773519
How is the weather in Ausfailia today, m8?

>>30773523
What does the second law of thermodynamics have to do with your imaginary friend?

>>30773539
My point exactly. If you knew what it was you would understand my point. You think you are smart and intellectual by insulting my world view but in reality all you are doing is denying obvious truth. It's okay though, you are not alone, many people like yourself will continue to live their lives with no objective morality. Sad really

>>30773559
Entropy doesn't have any fucking thing to do with a 4,000 year old piece of literature/social control/campfire story!!!

CREATION SCIENCE IS FAKER THAN STRIPPER TITTIES!!!!!!

FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK

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>>30773529
>>30773539
How about you two fellows scamper over to plebbit and argue about what shirt Richard Dawkins looks sexiest in.

>>30772256
>I hate /pol/
why, because that's the hot opinion on reddit?

>>30773583
You aren't very smart, are you? I want you to think about this for a second chief: Which system has a higher amount of entropy, the early universe right after the Big Bang, or right now?

>>30773583
stripper titties are pretty real kid, i've touched them with my face

>>30773592
It's actually one guy. And fuck you if you can't actually present an argument, m8.

>>30773593
No, because /pol/ is full of people who have never accomplished anything in their entire life so as such they have no meaning. In order to find meaning they latch onto "muh white race". Also, they think they are right wing but in reality many of them are Neo-Nazis and are fascists, which, despite what leftists will tell you, is a left wing political system.

>>30773603
I'm referring to their silicone content while using the colloquial phrase, "fake breasts" in a non standard way. Is English your first language?

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>>30773609
you are too much man to handle bro

He should.find ways to weaponize near earth asteroids.

Wipe out unwanted countries with plausible deniability.

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>>30773632
For you.

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>>30773592
>shouldered on right arm
>left eye aligned with scope
ive heard of cross eye dominant but pic related

>>30773651
I'm cross eye dominant. But I am also part of the both-eyes-open master race so it's all good.

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>>30773630
hmm no the ones i touched were soft and felt normal, i'd say they did not have any implants under them. the girl seemed very sincere as well. nice lady. i don't know what kind of life we would have if we hit it off, though. she was ambitious, a go-getter, and i was a real slacker at the time, not sure what i wanted to do with my life.

since then i have found this website and met many new people and my life has really turned around.

>>30773648
are you a girl pls respond

>>30773683
Are you stupid? That is obviously a girl who was born a girl who identified as a boy and had sex reassignment surgery who then identifies as female. Dumbass

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>>30773753
fuck. i need to check my privilege

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>>30773523
>>30773559
>>30773583
>Muh Thermodynamics
Are all americans as dumb as you?

>>30773798
in an open system with an influx of energy from the sun, entropy would tend to increase, not decrease. Was that your point, that the sun would make the entropy go away?

>>30773831
are you saying that the earth should get colder in the presence of the sun than if there were no sun

are all americans as stupid as you

>>30773867
are you saying the amount heat and level of entropy are the same thing?

>>30773940
What are you saying, exactly? Do you think that "entropy" is some magic force of chaos that sucks energy out of the universe or something?

You know that the sun continually pumps energy into the "closed" system that is Earth, right?

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>>30773957
What are YOU saying, exactly? Do you know what entropy is, and do you think that because a system has heat that it isn't undergoing entropy?

>>30773628
except that doesn't describe /pol/ at all. thanks for confirming that reddit shaped your opinion.

>>30773867
most Americans are as stupid as that, yes.

why in the dickfuck are you guys arguing about entropy?

>>30771126
Second post BEST POST

>>30774133
No I hate Reddit too. It's a liberal haven and I can't stand the dumbasses on there too. It's just that I can't stand /pol/ due to the fact that people on there are miserable, and it is full of leftwing fascists. I am right wing so I don't go on /pol/.

im pretty scared of where this country is going

>>30773798
Are you an American? Or are you one of those arrogant Europeans who thinks they are "smart" and "intellectual" compared to Americans? Let me ask you something Mr. "I will not refute any of your points and will just insult you", which system has more entropy: the early universe immediately after the Big Bang, or the universe right now?

>>30771126
this and only this.

>>30771126
>humble
Fuck him

>>30771019
>le black science meme man
America what are you doing

>>30771928
>Michio Kaku

Nigga he's worst than the both of them. Back when Fukushima was in the news, he was there as a nuclear expert. He doesn't know shit about nukes, and half the shit he said was blatantly wrong.

Yeah Tyson has some unfortunate opinions on guns, but here's the thing all the /pol/fags in this thread are missing.
He established his credentials and published papers LONG before his pop scientist career. I don't shit on pop scientists anyways, since kids these days are vapid assholes and if even a few get into science as a result of pop science, that's a net gain.
Tyson has a track record, and earned the career he has.

That said, with his opinions on guns? I am saddened that a man of his background opts to throw hard facts and figures out in favour of emotional appeal. Of all people he should know better. Either way he should probably refrain from commenting on issues he obviously has not researched.

>>30772216
You're a good guy, anon. I understood you, and agree.

>>30771019
Black Science guy is a bluepilled libtard who doesn't think for himself is anti-gun. Fuck him.

>>30772301
He's not a full-blown atheist though. He's really fucking adamant about his agnosticism. Keeps him from being lumped in with douche nozzles like Dawkins and Harris.

>>30772313
You don't belong on /k/.

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>>30778010
hard to tell the difference though

>>30776830
Dude built a fucking particle accelerator in his garage. He's a nuclear physicist not a nuclear analyst type like Oppenheimer.

>>30778035
That quote has been cut in half. He was talking about the bullshit concept of the "God of the Gaps". A concept created specifically by theologians for derision.

>>30773406
>Fight global warming
>Fight ISIS
>choose one
This argument is retarded.