Carrying your rifle

Its less preference and more situational. The Russians cradle it when they aren't expecting to be attacked.

>>30745867
/thread

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>>30745851
>4:30 minute video with a over one minute intro telling you how to cradle a gun
What kind of fucking mongoloid couldn't just figure out how to cradle carry?

>>30745867
this, there's a million different ways to carry your rifle and all of them are the right way in the right situation

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Cradle your raifu anon. I don't you would like being held upside down for prolonged periods of time now would you?

>>30746452
>I don't think
Wow. I can't type.

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>>30745851
I guess carrying comes all down to preference. Did you see his other videos OP? He has this strange ak. Kinda cool though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BPA7z4S7IEQ

>>30746586
Interesting. Looks like something from a sci fi. I always like it when people make franken ak's. I know to some people here that would be almost blasphemous.

>>30745851

Depends on what you are doing and what's going on. AIot of our guys would cradle their rifles on patrol when we weren't somewhere shady.
I've even cradled my 249 lefty with the charging handle hooked above my plate carrier. Mosty chicken winged it though cause 249 slings are mostly dog shit

>>30746452
this

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>>30746452
>>30747470

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>>30746452
>>30747470
>>30747635

>Marines
>Cute raifu waifu

Haha. Nice try guys, you ain't foolin anybody.

>>30747735
Kek

Cradle.

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The only correct way to carry a rifle is as follows:
>rifle cradled, resting solely on the left arm, parallel to the ground
>front of magazine resting against the crook of your arm
>fingers wrapped around the back of the pistol grip best you can
>thumb in trigger guard, on trigger
>right hand free to draw sidearm
On contact with enemy you jump and spin like a ballerina, firing your rifle to suppress while noscope headshoting with your sidearm.
Not that this technique doesn't work for lefties, who like gays, trans, leftists, pedos, flurries, and other degenerates shouldn't have guns to begin with.

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like my great grandpappi did.

>>30752163
>the only correct way to carry a rifle
How to spot a try hard milsim wannabe dipshit who wasn't cut for the army and failed the tests.

>>30752252
how to spot someone who didn't read the post
kek

>>30752252
>that'sthejoke.jpg

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>>30745851
In the Army Infantry we called it, "carrying at the ready position."

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>>30752252
Welcome to /k/ newfag.

Now get the fuck out.

In non combat situation, short term, hold ak on pistol grip, pointing to tge ground.
Long term, cradle.

Combat situation, both hands, weapon lowered to degree of danger

Long term traveling, over shoulder with sling. With one twitch it is ready.

Pls comment

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>>30745851
>>30752412
Sounds reasonable. I'd cradle too if a was patrolin' for a long time. Also, interesting video OP. Never seen this dude's channel before.

>>30752207
>literally lost a world war
embarassing

>>30752558
They (the joimins) lost both actually... and the Russians cradle their rifles and were on the winning side. Coincidence? I don't think so.

>>30752467
Chickenhawk is based as fuck

I've only got an AK so I might be biased to the cradle, but it is good for standing around doing nothing. But I wouldn't walk around like that for a while. If I have to be on the move and just need to transport it, I use the sling a tad more properly (Over right shoulder, under left arm, muzzle down and out of the way tucked to my body) or just let it hang from my neck with one hand on it if I expect to or was just shooting

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>>30752558
Well if losing a war against all the other nations of the world is embarrassing, how embarrassing must it be to lose against a bunch of illiterate dirt farmers wearing their pyjamas feel yank?

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>>30752582
His videos are great. I love how he rolls old school and practical over tacticool mall ninja. Hope he gets a bigger following in the future.
https://youtu.be/hHAiZ3G8z6k

hey guys what's the name of the slings called that if you drop your rifle it's hanging in front of you? Is that just a 3 point sling? Or does it have a different name.

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>>30752598
Told status told

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>>30752581
>>30752598
Even Charlie cradled their raifus too! /k/ we've discovered how to win in modern combat scenarios . Cradle raifu, win wars.

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>>30752617
Is that the Vietcong theme?

>>30752663
Yup. Vietcong: First alpha.

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>>30752617

I like his sling choice.

>>30745851
If I ever get a rifle, I'm cradling it in my arms every night.

>>30752598
I wish this meme would die. The United States didn't lose in Vietnam. You'd have to be a complete uninformed knuckle head to believe that.

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>>30752720

>people actually believe this

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>>30752720
haha yea mate, you guys sure succeeded there.

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>>30752720
good job stopping those commies!

>>30752750
Yes, we did.

>>30752773
By stopping the spread of communism in Vietnam?

Mmhm.

>>30745851
Both!

When around others I carry my rifle like the top pic. It's a safety thing I guess. Better safe than sorry. I carry like the bottom pic when I'm going hiking. It's more comfortable for walking long distances and keeps the barrel clear of my legs/feet in case I trip and fall.

>>30752720
the people of the US voted to leave vietnam, a war that forced many to fight for a cause they felt was unnecessary. no one officially won or lost

>>30752762
Thanks. That precisely what we did.

Notice the widespread communism across the region? No? Well, golly gee, I wonder who caused that from happening.

>>30752793
>voted to leave
lol

>>30752617
Right, the dudes so chill. Would definitely 420/ operate with any day

>>30745851
Muzzle down when walking
Muzzle up when running/moving cover
Muzzle low ready when cqc

>>30745851
>DD super ugly ar
>bracelets and necklace
>marpat and long hair
I don't like this man's taste. I would bet he uses spices as a clone.

>>30753087
As a what now? Maybe you meant cologne?

>>30753120
Cell phone auto correct. I must have misspelled it. But yes.

>>30752720
Bro... we lost. The mission of the conflict in Vietnam was to defeat the communist north. We not only failed to defeat them, but we also allowed them to completely ransack the south.
Militarily sure we had a better k/d ratio. But since when does the k/d ratio actually matter if you didn't win the war?

You can argue that because we intervened no other country wanted to fuck with communism. But it's a weak argument. The truth is Vietnam was never truly communist and just wanted self determination and sovereignty. Today Vietnam is just as capitalist as any other third world country. If you want to say America won because of that, and that it wasn't inevitable go ahead. But to say we were militarily successful in Vietnam is unhealthy nationalistic pride,in par with saying the Russians were successful in Afghanistan.

>>30753087
To each his own I guess. Some don't like his style, other anons think he's the chillest dude ever.

>>30752661
>France is chicken
>chickens evolved from dinosaurs
Does this mean France was ahead of all the other countries?

>>30752720
US did not complete its war aims. Vietnam did. US lost.

>>30753234
FIrst to surrender to evolution

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>>30753173
I'm sorry your education was limited.

Our task was to stop the spread of communism. We succeeded. Yeah, Vietnam fell victim to it but that's where it stopped and that was our goal. It would have been nice to wipe out the north but oh, well. We won the rest of southeast asia.

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>acid rock
>Native American necklace
>Franken ak, m16a1, and g3
>His other video has him talking about how a skilled marksmen with a Finnish m39 would be a fine DM
>Uses Chicom SKS rig since AR and ak mags fit snuggly in
>American Spirit cigarettes
>"Defend Free Will"
This dude is based. He's like chill incarnate. More Chickenhawk screenshots when?

>>30753259
The United States did not lose. Please stop spreading propaganda.

>>30753296
It's a poor understanding of the Asian methods of warfare to claim that the US won that war. We should not make that mistake in the future. People seem to like to use KDR or other similarly unimportant metrics to try and claim US victory, but that's simply not how the Asian mindset works. If we ever got into an engagement with China this sort of analysis would have to be at the forefront of our planning. They don't care what casualties they take, or what ground they cede, so long as they have ultimate victory in the end.

No, the US didn't lose conventionally, but the US lost nonetheless.

>>30753334
>Asian mindset
We're basing this on the "Asian mindset."

lol

Go away.

>>30753272
Now

>>30753334
So the Asian mindset ignores losing almost every major battle and having your forces decimated so badly that your army virtually doesn't exist any more and you say uncle?

>>30746586
That is a strange ak. Wonder if it's a bubba job or an actual gunsmith-quality one

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>>30753437
Chickenhawk and his Finnish m39

>>30753491
Well think of it this way.

Imagine a contest where if you can take getting punched in the face by a boxer until they are bored you get $9 million dollars.

Guy A gets punched twice and says, "Not worth it." and leaves.

Guy B ends up getting punched over 80 times but wins the money.

Both people are winners but it depends on the perspective you approach it from

>>30753522
In the video he says it was an ak pistol then he had a gunsmith weld a cone shaped muzzle brake to make it legal length. Also that is Krebs custom handgaurd.

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>>30753437
Chickenhawk and m16a1 style AR .

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>>30753437
He also appendix carries a Glock 17

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>>30752581
>>30752662
Well, cradling it is then.

>>30753271
>implying domino theory was true and not McCarthy propoganda.

>>30753379
No, we're basing this on objective grounds, and I'm in very brief terms explaining why many Americans think we won, when we in fact did not.

Because the purpose of war is generally not to blow up a bunch of gooks. It's to accomplish some aim, that we did not accomplish.

>>30745851
At work and can't watch the video but am I the only one who gets a South American guerrilla vibe from the dude's pictures in this thread?

Also can we get back on topic and away from arguing over the outcome of Vietnam?

>>30752617
>His light is just tied onto the front sight
It looks dumb, but I guess it works

>>30753617
Thanks brother

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>>30755244
This. Do we your attention other anons? Good. Please stop arguing about Vietnam. Pic unrelated, but it got you attention for 5 seconds.

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>>30755458
Jonny with a shotgun...

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>>30755458
>>30756137
...and a 1911

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To help get the thread back here's an interesting read: http://soldiersystems.net/2016/04/21/follow-through-consulting-weapon-grip-for-rapid-movement/

tl;dr: For moving rapidly with the rifle slung at the low ready wrap all four fingers around the pistol grip and put your hand on top of the forearm. Less strain on the wrist and in case of fall your finger doesn't go in the trigger guard, discharging the rifle and/or breaking your finger.

>>30756447
Interesting. In another video, Chickenhawk said that running with the rifle pointed down could really mess you up if you trip and take the stock to the throat, chin, or face. Also the muzzle will get stuck in the ground and get clogged. An anon in another thread said that that exact thing had happened to him.

>>30745851
My rifleman buddy was telling me at every different instructor (at Basic and Infantry training) made them carry their weapons a different way.

They never carried "Russian style" in training, because of sweeping, but some Instructors would say low ready, some would say high ready.

He also told me that the style used changes depending on the battalion's preference.


I have seen pictures of Aussie infantry on patrol carrying "Russian Style"
When sweeping friendlies is less of a problem, unlike in training, where you'll be with your whole platoon not just your brick.

>>30753334
>this fucking meme again
https://youtu.be/3mbcgua9ufE
libs in the US caused us to """""lose"""""" the war, not the Vietnamese.

>>30758584
Iirc correctly the Aussies like to carry like the Brits, who traditionally carry more horizontally and without a sling. You see it in some Rhodie pics as well. Similar to how a SAW is carried slung.

>>30753271
>autism

>>30753568
Terrible analogy, here's a better one for the Vietnam War

Guys A and B go out for drinks one night and run into a stranger, guy C. guy C is getting the shit kicked out of him and having his house vandalized every day by guy Z, who's getting his paintball guns, rolls of toilet paper, and monetary compensation from guys X and Y. Guy B, upon hearing that guy C is being victimized because of his favorite sport (which is also guy B's favorite sport) being different from X and Y's, offers to kick the shit out of guy Z. Guy C appreciates the sentiment, but reminds him that he's being backed by Guy A and Guy B, who are really rich and friends with the cops. Guy A tells Guy B that he doesn't owe anything to C and that Z doesn't really deserve to have the shit kicked out of him, but ultimately realizes that he can't fully control B. Given the circumstances, Guy B decides that he could still probably scare Guy Z enough that he won't want to talk to Guy X and Y anymore without pissing off Guy X and Y too much and goes over to Z's house the next day. Guy B beats the ever loving shit out of Guy Z and expects that to be the end of it, but Guy Z just attacks Guy C twice as viciously as before to retaliate. Guy A notices this and decides to take pictures of what Guy Z did to Guy C and his house to show Guy B's friends in an attempt to get Guy B to stop what he was doing, but none of his friends are convinced quite yet; so Guy B continues to give Guy Z a hard time. Eventually this escalates into Guy B TP'ing his house, shooting his car with paintball guns, and even killing Guy Z's dog at one point, but all this just causes Guy Z to hate Guy B and Guy C even more. Guy Z, unbeknownst to Guy A and C, plans a massive attack on Guy C, B, and C's house. He waits until Guy A, B, and C are all hanging out at Guy C's house and throws a molotov cocktail through the window. Guy A records this shit on his cell phone and posts it on Facebook for all of C and A's friends to see
(cont.)

>>30759214
(cont.)
but fails to post Guy B and A putting out the fire with a fire extinguisher. Guy Z, noticing the fire he started got put out fairly quickly, kicks in the door, points a gun at C and takes Guy C hostage. Guy A again records Guy C seemingly kicking Guy C and B's ass. Guy B, shortly after Guy A stops recording, tackles Guy C to the ground and gouges out his eye, cuts off his ear and breaks all of his ribs and limbs before escorting him out with his CCW to his head, so as to not anger Guy X and Y by killing him. Guy B knows that Guy Z will likely die if he discretely beat the shit out of him one more time, but by this time Guy A has already shown the two videos he took to everybody he knew, including the police. So the police arrest Guy B for assault, but leave Guy Z alone because of sympathy for Guy X and Guy Y; which leaves Guy C completely defenseless from Guy Z's advances. Guy Z uses this opportunity to burn Guy C's house to the ground and kill Guy C while Guy B rots in prison and forever afterwards, everybody calls Guy B a pussy for not killing Guy Z.

Sound complicated? So was Vietnam fuckface, memeing about the US not being able to kill a couple rice farmers is simplifying and generalizing the war to the point where it's not even worth discussing anymore.

>>30753491
The terms of the ceasefire were the demands the north had from the start of the war, free elections(because they knew a communist win was inevitable) and reparations, neither of which was followed through on oddly enough.
You would have to be pretty deluded to not see the ceasefire for what it was, a way to save face for a retreat.

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>>30758584
He sort of goes into it in this older video. Either with the stock tucked under the arm and the rifle pointing forward or hanging and the muzzle pointing horizontally from the rifleman.
https://youtu.be/-VAyz3UQ-L0

>>30752252
>wasnt cut for the army
>literally the lowest teir government workers

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African carry

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>>30759430
Diagram of different carry methods (more like a sling ad but whatever). Notice the patrol carry in the middle.

>>30745851
I stand the butt in my hand, and carry it leaned against my neck. I honestly don't know why, other than the fact that my only rifle is a .22 with no sling-loops.

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>>30752799
>>30753271
Success!

Personally, I like three point sling holding the rifle in an almost patrol carry on its own. Don't expend energy you don't have to when you don't have to.

low ready
it's always low

>>30752467
I assume that cradling the rifle is ok if you walk on trails or through barren landscapes. Through dense vegetation, the rifle would get stuck all the time on branches and bushes.

>>30753271
>>30753560
I guess chickenhawk is the right name for this skelly

even I am bigger than him and that's saying something because I am skelly incarnate

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>>30752598
>losing a war to illiterate dirt farmers wearing their pyjamas

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Eyes follow the barrel everywhere and it is always parallel to the ground. These jungle lessons die hard even in the open where it is less important.

At 30m visibility you can definitely hit someone from the hip. Before you come into the aim for more, step off line for more, and go down for more. And by then there's a whole section up firing including a machine gun.

It's not like working in buildings, you might need to patrol a month at this visibility. With all the extra gear this implies. You can't shoulder your weapon that long but you better keep that fucking barrel up.

>>30752799
Except it didn't work at all.

Laos and Cambodia fell to communism, and the US lost in Vietnam.

Of course the whole world wouldn't turn to communism, because the domino theory was flawed from the beginning.

>>30758987
oh, so the Vietnamese strategy of prolonging the war, and give the impression that this war would never end proved successful.

They won. Deal with it.

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More Chickenhawk screenshots. Here's that franken Ak.

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>>30763344
From the muzzle.

I like low ready for rifle and high ready for shotgun.

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>>30763353

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>>30763566

>>30752628
Ball buster single point sling.

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Overhead view of walking with the stock under the arm.

>>30752207
Those are some serious manlets

>>30764075
I was thinking that for second too. It's like the 7 darwves joined the Wehrmacht.

cradling AK with the mag inserted into your vest is the bestest for long marches.

>>30753271
>We stopped the spread of communism
>What are the millenials and Europe

>>30756014
Saeko best girl

>>30752374
>we
Sure

Low ready, that. As opposed to high ready.

>>30765692
>people who disagree with me are communists because that's the scary buzzword

It sounds like you need a holiday in Cambodia.

>>30765772
Haha. You know it, Saeko's a bamf. It was still an overall bad series but at least it wasn't as bad as the Vietnam argument here.

>>30762079
I bet

I only cradled it sometimes on long marches. Otherwise I held it down. Though my Lieutenant told me it wasn't ideal to march that way.
We had some retard who walked around with it pointing up, like he was some badass. Fuck that guy.

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Cradle master race, reeeeeppportingg, sir!

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>>30767001
Good ol Dugan

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Observe comrades, this is only proper way to hold rifle.

>>30752661
This would be better if they had used dinosaurs that were found in each of those countries.

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>>30762079
>>30765772

>Tfw you're about as big as Chickenhawk

I-I guess I'm okay... right? Saeko won't care if I'm a beansprout, ya know why?
Shes not real.

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>>30767464

>Implying beansprout skellys aren't the new master race

#skellyuprising2016

>>30752720
To be fair....they did give up after losing a few cities and bases.

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The argument about Vietnam though. what the heck. It's all because someone made the "losing a world war" joke. I guess that's /k/ for you.

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>thread about preferred rifle carry method
>Joke leads to WW3 tier autist argument about Vietnam
>Dope Chickenhawk screenshots everywhere
>Gay Marines jokes
>skeleton uprising
>Cameos by Dugan Ashley and Saeko Busujima
>Like 2 anons actually discussed the topic.

Never change /k/.

>>30752661
>That french chicken
Gets me every time.

Do it like thissss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtoW7RQnHzY

>>30764075
I think they're kids

>>30756137
>>30756147
> camo pocket sewn onto jeans

>>30763989
dat flashlight

Jonathan Piccone (Chickenhawk) seems like an interesting guy. Thanks for introducing him here, never seen him before.