How do you feel about the War in Vietnam?

>>30667857
>It ain't me

>>30667857
My favorite song is Red Door by the Tumbling Boulders.

Total blowout for vietnam communist. Only reason anything is said other wise are doves getting attention and counter culture

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>>30667857
It was containment politics to prevent the spread of communism, as simple as that. One cannot oversee the outcome of a war at the beginning nor the casualty rate. If the 'nams were smart at the beginning they've would've welcomed the 'Freedom with open arms and leave the slavery-ideology behind.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

And that's all I have to say, about that.

>>30667885
They tried.

>>30667864

I love the song "It ain't me" by CDR

A complete failure to achieve anything despite inflicting severe losses on the NVA and Viet Cong

THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKIN

>>30667857
Would of ended as another North and South Korea had we not pulled out and stayed on the defensive. You can thank the hippies and Weatherman Underground for popularizing the anti war movement as well as the army's idiot decision to playing active war film on television for the population to see.

The war in Vietnam? Well, there's only one thing i can say about the war in Vietnam. HejdpfbwospdvjdebjdjficjsbskddodcxosoaapapherndoxjsnnejdkxjbedodjedkxiwhgakdicywbeoxucjsbwdoicspwlsbddnoxixnsbediduwhwkwowshshbddkdjenwkwjssnsnsItAintMejeodpdjwbslxohebedodhwbdb.

Thats all i have to say about that.

>>30667885

Anon if the Chinese invaded America, occupied it for 100 years, then eventually left and set up a government in their place, would you be so keen to support it and its ideology?

They were fighting for communism sure, but mostly they were fighting for Vietnam. For them it was a war of national liberation.

Ho Chi Minh literally asked the Americans for help against the French because he thought they would support a people struggling for their independence for obvious reasons.

>>30667989

>Sometimes when people go to Vietnam, they go home to their mommas without any legs.
>Sometimes they don’t go home at all. >That’s a bad thing.
>That’s all I have to say about that.

>>30668030
I was going for the comedic factor but i guess you like to be a debbie downer

>>30668023
Than why adhere to the ideology that is strictly un-American? If they weren't commies then the Americans would've helped them, because the US was strictly anti-colonial back then

>>30667989
Came here to say this

>>30668089
You failed history, didn't you?

>>30668089
The US didn't give a fuck about colonialism, they were anti USSR. The North asked the US for help and based their constitution off the US one. The US said fuck off and ho chi mien went to the ruskies for help. And he got it.

He didn't give a fuck about communism. Just wanted independence.

Beta Americans got BTFO by dudes in pajamas.

>>30668089

Because colonialism is vehemently anti-colonialist, and capitalism had been used by colonial powers to exploit and oppress people for decades, so it's no wonder why anti-colonialists didn't like it and drifted towards communism instead.

Also the U.S. wasn't anti-colonialist at all, in fact they engaged in 19th century-style imperialism right up until WW2, they had their own colonies, they just called them "overseas territories".

>>30668477

>colonialism is anti-colonialist

*communism

>>30668436
Tactical pajamas

>>30668477
>>30668488
>Communism is anti-colonialism
This is the most puzzlingly retarded thing I've seen in weeks. It's like I stumbled onto an abandoned AM radio-station stuck on playing Tokyo Rose recordings 70 years after the fact. The USSR was all about propping up puppet regimes, it was literally surrounded by them.

>>30668571
Did you miss the part in history class about the Cold War? Where it was the US vs USSR?

>>30668571

>The USSR was all about propping up puppet regimes, it was literally surrounded by them.

Sure they were, but communism isn't about that. Capitalism stipulates that the government isn't allowed to intervene in support of corporations, but the U.S. does it all the time. Christians are supposed to be pacifists, but they kill people all the time in the name of their religion.

Here's a shocker Anon: sometimes people use ideologies and then do the opposite of what those ideologies say.

>>30667857
>Jungle azns want own government
>No
>We're going to fuck your house up until you like us and don't want us to leave
>Never stopped wanting us to leave no matter how hard we fucked everyone up
>Get tired of wasting people on both sides, pack up and nope outta there
>They were glad that we left, thus we failed

Absolutely pointless.

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It was pretty gay

>>30668571
Communist colonialism doesn't usually include genocide.

>>30668626
Truth

>>30668626
>repeating the commie narrative that the people of the South didn't want their own government.
Which is why they had to put over a million people into labor camps right? Which is why when you look at footage of Saigon falling there's like 3 cucks with red armbands cheering and everyone else looks terrified.

Whoever is dumping thanks and please continue.

>>30667857
I would make a joke about Vietnam, but It ain't me.

>>30668805
Why don't you tell that to a Ukrainian?

>>30668937
Ukrainians aren't people. They exist only to pleasure Russia's decaying expanded dong.

>>30668743
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>>30668906
>>30668913
>>30668922

>see these pics
>just a bunch of average young guys trying to make the best of a shit situation
>looks like they've made some friends
>start wondering what happened to all of them after the war
>hope they all got home, kept in touch, had families, and lived normal lives after their time in Vietnam
>realize that this probably isn't the case for at least one of them


Right in the feels, /k/

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Thanks. I have around 5000 Vietnam pics so there's plenty more to come.

>>30668023
>fuck over oldest ally
>For gooks

Doesn't take a genius to see that wasn't going to happen.

>>30668937
Good point. Emphasis on "usually"

>>30668970
Why do you have so many? Where did you get them?

>>30667857
>How do you feel about the War in Vietnam?
my sister woke me early one morning, screaming that our father was home after a year long tour in the nam.
i guess that was the only positive memory that i have of that war.
remember the daily death toll reported on the evening news (was a time to be quite while my father digested the news).

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>>30668920

Great music

But otherwise a total waste of time money and lives.

>>30668878

Right Anon, the Saigon government collapsed instantly because it had a rock solid base of support among the people. There was a communist insurgency in the south, but not anti-communist insurgency in the north because people loved the Saigon government that had been put in power by the same people that brutally conquered and subjugated the country for hundreds of years.

The U.S. refused to allow elections after the First Indochina War because everybody wanted an anti-communist regime right?

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>>30668993
Got them from a torrent on /t/

The thread died awhile ago. I'll see if I can find the magnet link

>>30667857

It was a silly and pointless war against the "evil Communists"

We thought we would waltz in and with superior special forces and control of the air we would stomp all over the NVA and Vietcong.

We VASTLY overestimated the will of the local population to rise up and fight the Communists (hey guys, how about we just give you some training and then you sacrifice all the lives to win your "freedom" to be imperial subjects again?). We vastly overestimated the actual impact of air superiority in the region.

We vastly underestimated the fighting capabilities of the North, and we vastly underestimated how GODDAMN ANNOYING it was going to be politically and militarily to chase the fuckers throughout the entirety of Southeast Asia.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Daily reminder that the incident which lead to our serious involvment in the region, the Golf Of Tonkin incident, NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED. Our government intentionally and knowingly fabricated and exaggerated everything about it for the sole purpose of drawing us into a pointless war.

Read this, I hope you faggots like rage.

>>30669043
>>30669087
Isn't it funny how 40 years later THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING WOULD HAPPEN

Read Matterhorn.

It's the perfect Vietnam war story.

>>30669125
>accidental opsec

>>30667857

The war in Viet-Nam?

>>30669136
Lol@MAG12

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>>30668993
I'm 99.99% sure this is it.

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There's also a WW2 set but I'm not sure if I could find it

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There is a ISIS set also. I'll see if I can find it.

>>30669087
First contact did happen. 2nd was just a total fuck up but the higher ups didn't want to look like retards so we went to war.

more thinking than feeling

>>30669173
really makes you think

>>30669143
Gotta love Heinemann's hot rod

>>30669154
Thanks m8

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>>30669154
>>30669201

Disregard that link. It's dead and doesn't work.

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World War 2 (20,000 pics)

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>>30669216
Fuck.

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>>30668805
>Communist colonialism doesn't usually include genocide
Azerbaijan, Zimbabwe, the Soviet Union, the Bolsheviks, and Zanzibar would lik to have a word with you

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Korea:

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>>30669216
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>>30669238
Thanks bruv

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Best Korea:

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Unfortunately I cannot find Syrian War set magnet

>>30669088
Here we see the gunner in his natural habitat. See how he sulks from the sun and observers. Look at his overall demeanour. A fine specimen he is. Always ready, you can see a small pile of ammunition set next to him. At times, such food for his weapon is scarce, and this stockpiling helps him overcome the proverbial winter. Truly, this is a gunner's gunner.

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>>30669305
Actually I'm pretty dumb. The Syrian War Set is included with the Vietnam Set.

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I have to go for now.

I'll continue dumping when I get back, if this thread is still alive.

>>30669334
Spooky

>>30668987
> roasted

You talk the talk, do you walk the walk?

>>30667857
>do you feel about the War in Vietnam
From the Us and not Vietnamese perspective? Cool technology for fighting commies inna ww3.
>Overall strategy thought out by manchildren
Muh bodycount what the fuck is local politics and divide and conquer.

>>30667938
>You know you never beat us in a straight fight
>But we still won

>>30668878
>Which is why they had to put over a million people into labor camps right
They managed to be, upfront and lying hard at least even if reality bore them at as more terrible, less worse and more nationalistic than the Vietnamese leaders the US supported. What a waste.

>>30667857

>there are still americans who think north vietnam was fighting a communist revolution
>americans still don't think they lost the vietnam conflict
>vietnamese still love americans anyway

VIETNAM
FUCKING
SHITS

>>30667857
the Ghost Busters looked odd back then.
huh

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>>30667857
I enjoy it a little

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>>30669749
My parts kit just came in as well

>>30667885
I think the nams came to get our help at first, but because they were a French colony, we thought it would be better to support France.

So, they looked at their next best source of support.

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>OP
We should've never been there. Pure imperialistic war. Lost 75,000+ in combat alone, and way too many unaccounted for veteran suicides. Not too mention there's all the homeless veterans.
>self perpetuating cycle of violence and hate, all due to our state.
>fuck the state

They sent an entire generation of young men to go die in a country that had never threatened US sovereignty.

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>>30667857
I think gear back then was as aesthetically appealing as it'll ever be

>>30668960
I think that it was a shit situation too. The lead up to it, the actual way it was carried out, and the response to veterans on their return.

Not all of my family made it out of Vietnam alive. But we're in the US now, and I'm a physician. So life is good, at least for us.

For those whose flesh and blood was put into the grinder of history, that's too bad.

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>>30668956
DID SOMEBODY SAY EXPAND DONG?!

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This is now a huey thread, post sexy hueys

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>>30667857

shit was just getting fun and fucking hippies lead by commies ruined it all

>>30669902
> Long Dick Massacre

>>30669902
>Top Scrotum Expansion Pak

>>30669902
>Horrible meme simulator

>>30669902
Tropical Bananaman
Sounds good.

>>30669902
>Rectal Anus Expander

>>30667866
>>30667864
Chuckled. I don't know why I still find this so funny.

>>30667857
>How do you feel about the War in Vietnam?

Should have told France to handle their own shit, probably shouldn't have propped up an unpopular wannabe dictator, also should have seen the push towards Saigon after the armistice coming.

Other than that I probably would have voluntarily enlisted back then just like I did for the GWOT.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ1AYVcAS7k

Anyone familiar with this?

>>30669902
>Incredible cock lover

Kek.

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>>30667866

What does this thread have to do with Feminism

>>30669902
Dangly Tit Massacre

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>M81 Woodland will never come back
>M81 Woodland is forever outdated
>OD Green isn't as popular anymore
>M60s will forever be inferior


COME BACK

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Agent Orange effects

>>30667857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcOTZeZ3_40

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USMC Military Auxiliary Radio System (MARS) N0EFA in Vietnam

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>>30672374
antennas make good targets

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>>30670627
M60 is not inferior

>>30667857
>How do you feel about the War in Vietnam?
Laos and cambodia fucked it all up.
Also you can't win against those who pretend to be non-combatants unless you are willing to kill innocents. (unless you can occupy the territory for 3-4 generations and impose a strong republic and american ideals)

A noble venture that sadly failed. Any action to destroy communism/socialism or whatever red filth there is, is in itself a noble action.

>>30667857
Another oil reserve.

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>>30672397
MARS bunker, Con Thien

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>>30672490
some Marines decide life and death, these Marines decide if you talk to your girl back home

I know these threads are jokes usually but Vietnam always reminds me of a family friend growing up.
His name was Larry Stick and he was an absolute madman. He was a door gunner on a huey. He looked like Rod Stewart and had the dirtiest sense of humor. He was a hard working son of a bitch and did mason work for almost 30 years. He loved Hockey and the Hershey Bears and hed take me and my dad to go see em. I used to go to his house and just sit and bullshit with him for hours about music, pussy, and just about anything. He taught me dirty Limericks and always had a smile on his face. He started having a lot of trouble with nightmares and guilty feelings from Nam, and He opened up to me about them. The past few years as I traveled around I saw him less and less, because work and just life in general got in the way. I did 6 months working in Montana and came home. For two months after I never saw him even though he lived a mile from me. Then one night I got a call from my dad saying Larry died. He fell in the shower and cut his femoral.


I miss the motherfucker so much.

Robert McNamara was the wrong man for the job.

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>>30672602

>>30672414
it's not the same

it'll never be the same

>>30673069

Youll never get told to "Grab the fucking pig and hit that tree line!"

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>>30673124
SNIPS IN THE WIRE

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>>30667857

If Johnson had just let LeMay do his thing then the war would have been over in less than a year as an overwhelming American victory.

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>>30668743
dat bush

>>30668749
/fit/ fags will hate this one

>>30667857
It's the American war that I would have least liked to be in...

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>>30673198
best soundtrack tho

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>>30668871
Smiling white working on dying gook

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>>30673131

>>30673204
amen to that

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Chuck Mawhinney is one such warrior. Chuck Mawhinney joined the USMC in Oct. 1967 Chuck in VNright out of high school. He attended Scout Sniper School at Camp Pendleton and graduated in April 1968. From there he received orders to Vietnam where upon arrival he was assigned as a rifleman to 1st Marine Division, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Battalion Lima Company. He remained in this unit for 3 months until he was re-assigned to 5th Marine Regiment HQ Scout Sniper Platoon. There he worked as a scout sniper for different companies with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Battalions. He also worked with the South Koreans (Rock Marines), Force Recon, Army CAG Unit, but the majority of his time was with Delta Company. He served a 13 month tour with two back to back extensions. During this tour he is credited with 103 confirmed NVA-VC kills and 216 probables. Like many fellow service members, following his service in Vietnam, Chuck returned home (Oregon) to resume his life and he resides there today.

>>30668023

You have some flaws in your observations my friend.
#1) There was no country called Vietnam when the French arrived. Vietnam didn't exist until the late part of WW2 when the Japanese united the countries together an 'Empire' to help control uprisings.

#2) Ho Chi Minh was pro-western, until he found a better deal with the communists. Ho was in it for himself. Just like almost every 'revolutionary'.

>>30668983
Don't want to screw over your colonialist friend? That's understandable. But sending in large amounts of equipment to aid this friend in their colonialism does not speak highly of the land of the free. Poorly taking over this friend's subjugation of a foreign land when friend declares it pointless and retreats, does not speak highly of the home of the brave.

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>>30667857
we killed a lot of commies. the commies back at home convinced everyone to lose their nerve. we would have killed them all if we kept pushing.

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sorry we lost seems like a great place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZnk-Gg01YQ

>>30673407
food looks good

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>>30673407
conical hats and whores are still abundant I see

>>30673316

Ho was in it for Vietnam, and he wanted to strike whichever deal would guarantee its independence. Even if the concept of a Vietnamese nation didn't exist when the French invaded, conquering and subjugating the people was still wrong and Ho was fighting to get the foreigners out.

>>30673352

France left Vietnam under a UN brokered deal in 1954. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conference_(1954)

This left two 'temporary' countries. North Vietnam and South Vietnam.
These countries were to elect a common leader who would unite the country under one government. -- Everyone knew this was a joke BTW --
during a brief period of time, people in both countries were free to migrate to the country they wanted. The North being pro communist, and the South being Capitalist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Passage_to_Freedom

Many communists remained in the South as sleeper agents -- The Viet Cong. These people began an insurrection against the South Vietnamese government.

not long after, the North began its eventual assault into the South on the pre-text of assisting the Viet Cong.. The UN supplied ammo/guns/aircraft/tanks/aid to assist the South in defending its territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Vietnam_(1959%E2%80%9363)

>>30673504

Except the Communists had massive popular support across the country, and the Americans refused to allow elections in the south because they knew the commies would win. On top of it all the entire legitimacy of the Southern government was in question since it was basically a colonial proxy left behind by the French.

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>>30673561
It's so much worse than that. South Vietnam wasn't even the sum of it's individual parts. To call it a puppet is generous.

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>>30673204
absofuckinlutely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVtpP4ck8Ws

forgive me for not posting the cliche CCR, Doors, or Stones

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>>30673647
you're fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU

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>>30673669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuk8AOjGURE

Hindsight is a real son of a bitch.

I was your average hippie dippie high school kid. The 60s-70s rock, etc. was all I listened to. Most of my reports in school were about Vietnam and/or the current conflict in Iraq/Afghanistan using comparing and contrasting them. Spending most of my time bitching about the "imperialist war mongering USA"

The more I studied in college to get my degree (History) the more I decided that a war was inevitable and it just happened to take place in Vietnam. Even my more liberal professors stood on the side of the US for most of it. We needed to show everyone our big swinging dick and keep everyone in check.

Apologies for the blog.

>>30668758

Dat Thumper

>>30673504
>These people began an insurrection against the South Vietnamese government
>The CIA instates a president that proceeds to shit on every non-Catholic in the country
>IT WAS ALL DA COMMIE SLEEPER AGENTS FAULT DAT SOUTH VIETNAM FAILED

>>30674038
>>IT WAS ALL DA COMMIE SLEEPER AGENTS FAULT DAT SOUTH VIETNAM FAILED
Who do you think runs the CIA?

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>>30669827
yes

>>30669902
>Dank Dong Massacre

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>>30668794

Decided to try and date the pic by using the Playboy Centerfolds in the background. The one over the manlet's head is Pat Russo, Miss November 1965.

>>30669954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voOQ-Fph7Fc

>>30668856

M113, probably still over there too

>>30668882

If I learned anything from my university-level class on the Vietnam War, its that the style of dress is called "Ao Dai"

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>>30669914

>>30669118

Wow. Using DC-3s in the 1960s? I thought only Air America was using them at that point.

>>30668621

*sniff*

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>>30674131

Reminder Vietnam was using captured Hueys as late as 2007

>>30674251
why not? Huey's are great helicopters

>>30669772
Based.
Get you a Nodak or McKay a1 lower.
Find a decent barrel yet?

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>>30674131

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>>30674630
>tfw you will never take them for a "ride"

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>>30674689

>>30672468
>2016
>still believes in this bullshit

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>>30674725

>>30674722
>the current year
>any year for that matter
>believing communism and socialism aren't complete garbage
There a shit ideology that should have died a long time ago

>>30674268

What about all the free Chinese and Soviet helicopters Vietnam got?

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>>30674768
*they're

>>30669902
>Dank Dick Sucker

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>>30674801

>>30674768
>implying the vietnam war was actually about fighting communists
>implying the vietnam war didn't actually strengthen the reds by giving them massive propaganda victories for free

babby listened to dennis prager

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>>30674814

>>30668621
>Christians are supposed to be pacifists
Christians are told not to murder. Killing in defense or killing enemy combatants is not murder.

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>>30674902

>>30674814
>>30674824
>>30674849
>>30674864
>>30674889
>>30674902
>>30674913

I can only imagine how many boners were had

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>>30674913

>>30674831

Christianity is literally Ghandi tier pacifism, or did you misinterpret "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" and "turn the other cheek" and "those who live by the sword will die by the sword" (something Jesus said to Peter as he tried to defend himself violently)

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>>30674940

>>30674931

Most people misinterpret that.

>>30674889

Anita Bryant dates this to the 1964 tour

http://www.historynet.com/bob-hopes-vietnam-christmas-tours.htm

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>>30674969

>>30667857
It was not me

>>30674931
The original version of the Bible, in Hebrew, says one of the ten commandments are 'Thou shalt not murder'. It was mistranslated into 'Thou shalt not kill'. Christianity was never pacifist.

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>>30675010

>>30674998

Chistmas 1967 tour (when I was born)

>>30674931
"If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him."
-Exodus 22:2

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
-Galatians 6:7

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>>30675022

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

>>30667857
I'm relieved that the issue of who did or didn't do what during the Vietnam War is no longer a significant an issue in the US. 40+ years after it "ended", we're finally starting to put it behind us.

>>30669902

edgy spaghetti expander

>>30674554
>all those cameras

Napalm sticks to kids

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>>30674998
>>30675010
>>30675022
Raquel Welch, damn...

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It looks we're on the strip show pics now, so here is my contribution.

>>30674996
>>30675036

>Old Testament

We're talking about Christianity, not Judaism.

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>>30669902

>fucking cock smasher

>>30669902
>dangly spaghetti deliverer

>>30675222
fuck burger king, bring back this

>>30673198
this 100 percent

>>30669827
Would someone ever really need three grenades in a field situation? I would understand defending a post or something, but seems like overkill for a patrol.

>>30675346

>need

Get fucked commie

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>Once met a guy who was in the Vietnam War
>Said he enjoyed his time there
>I wat hard thinking of all the shitty stories I've read
>"Yeah, you gotta figure for a little shit farm kid like me, getting away to play with helicopters in the jungle was a fucking vacation."

>>30674722
Fuck off and die red. World would have been a better place if we denied Lend Lease to the Reds and then bomb them after ww2. Better yet, go to earlier and destroy Russia after ww1.

>>30675475
>would have should have

/k/ intellectualism, right here

>>30675500
You're right, a real intellect resorts to ad hominem.

>>30675523
>implying that blowhard nonsense even needs a proper response

it is self-evidently retarded

>>30669827
Always wondered, were these bandoleers issued or just made on the field when the M16's came out? No M16 mag pouches yet?

>>30675407
its about the weight, man. I don't give a shit how many nades someone wants.

>>30669772

Where did you get this from?

Needs me two, one for an A1 clone and another for the XM177E2 clone.

>>30675416

Welcome to the average soldier's real experience, they're not all pansy-ass marxist "le damaged suffering war poets".

>>30675578

Issued, M16 stripper clips are packaged inside of them and those are in turn packaged inside of standard ammo boxes. So you open up a crate of ammo, and it's full of those bandoliers full of stripper clips (each one comes with a magazine charger and a bobby pin to pin the bandolier tight against your body if you decide to wear it). They have a removable silver thread that runs the length of the bandolier, if you remove it you can slip full 30 round STANAGs in them.

>>30675614
>mechanic
>average

wewlad

>>30669823
>They sent an entire generation of young men to go die in a country that had never threatened US sovereignty.
Welcome to the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about.

>>30675614

Should mention that 5.56 is still distributed this way, so those bandoliers are still in use.

>>30675630
there's more mechanics in the Marine Corps than infantry

>>30675614
>Welcome to the average soldier's real experience, they're not all pansy-ass marxist "le damaged suffering war poets".

this is what retarded millenial know it alls really believe.

>>30667857
it was a shitfuck meatgrinder designed to kill lots of our soldiers. S&D was a pointless strategy that had no end goal, just like the GWOT has no end goal. it's an endless meatgrinder.

>>30675630
>>mechanic

No. I forget the job title, he was part of helicopter crew but not pilot or co-pilot. The guy in charge of how much shit the heli can take on.

>>30675643
>so those bandoliers are still in use.
I'm almost tempted to get one or two and a bunch of 20-rounders as an emergency go-grab. In case everything really goes to hell and I can't grab anything else.

>>30675677

>this is what retarded millenial know it alls really believe.

Thousands of years of warrior culture suddenly being invalidated as soon as some nasally-abundant investment banker starts crying about it on CNN is surely a pure coincidence.

I trust the word of Ernst Junger ("Incomparable schooling of the heart") more than your favorite fucking meme movie made by a pacifist communist-sympathizing draft-dodging foreskin gobbler.

Not that I really give a shit about vietnam, it was basically an excuse to drum up degenerate "counter-culture" stateside and "desegregate" the military, which is always a nation-destroying mistake. A few steps above destabilizing healthy nationalistic countries in the middle east just to make our greatest allies feel a bit more comfortable though, at least we were killing communists. The US hasn't fought a war that it should have fought in 130 years.

>>30675683

Like I said, they'll fit 30 rounders if you remove the thread. 20 rounders are good for range use but I wouldn't really buy a whole bunch of them, they cost the same after all.

>>30675844
>warrior culture

and into the trash it goes

>>30667857
after they withdrew the drops from vietnam they should have deployed them against all the hippies.

>>30675844
>more than your favorite fucking meme movie made by a pacifist communist-sympathizing draft-dodging foreskin gobbler.

what movie are you even talking about? did i mention a movie at some point? are you crazy or something?

>it was basically an excuse to drum up degenerate "counter-culture" stateside and "desegregate" the military, which is always a nation-destroying mistake

oh, everything makes sense now. back to pol faggot.

>>30675856
i kek'd

>>30675881

I guarantee your perceptions of war are shaped entirely by nonsensical fantasy movies out of Hollywood, the ones that make Vietnam out to be some 20 year long classic rock concert where everyone is a dabbling poet and rampant drug user with a GI Joe codename like fucking animal mother, destined to either die at the hands of some righteous freedom fighter or return to the US as a mental disaster zone who kills a dozen cops before being gunned down in a gutter.

People went to war. They enjoyed it. They enjoyed killing the enemy, they enjoyed seeing things never to be seen again by human eyes, they enjoyed the experience. At the very least they learned to live with it, it was just routine. A job. The things that irked them the most were mosquitoes and humidity, not some melodramatic dwelling on the inhumanity of mechanized slaughter set to the background music of a deranged negro strumming an electric guitar like a mad ape while on PCP. The vast majority survived unscathed. Then they packed up, went home, got jobs and remained normal functioning human beings. Not ticking time bombs, not walking nutcases.

>>30676141
>I guarantee your perceptions of war are shaped entirely by nonsensical fantasy movies out of Hollywood, the ones that make Vietnam out to be some 20 year long classic rock concert where everyone is a dabbling poet and rampant drug user with a GI Joe codename like fucking animal mother, destined to either die at the hands of some righteous freedom fighter or return to the US as a mental disaster zone who kills a dozen cops before being gunned down in a gutter.

and i guarantee you, you're wrong. i'm not a brainless fucking twat who lets media shape anything i think.

>>30676141

Do you write cutscenes for COD/MOH?

>f

>>30669749
>no lightweight rucksack

pleb

>>30676141

And that's why veterans churn out far more anti-war literature than pro-war literature.

>muh Ernst Junger
>muh Adrian Carton de Wiart

Demonstrably members of a tiny minority of psycho wackjobs.

I remember laying in bed every night, praying that my dad and uncle would be ok until I fell asleep.

My uncle eventually went MIA in 67'.
He was presumed dead after him and a few other got separated from their unit near Cambodia. His disappearence really fucked me up, I use to wonder exactly what happened to him, I harbored a lot of hate towards the Vietnamese after that, eapically when Platoon came to theaters. Specifically the scene where Manny gets abducted and killed. Just thinking that some little sland eyes shit probably tortured my uncle to death drove me insane.

My dad came home in 70', He had some type of stroke and was deemed unfit for combat afterwards.

He later explained to me that my Uncle was more than likely killed by friendly fire. Supposedly an artillery barrage had landed on his position and they were never able to locate the body.

It was weird. I seemed to get closure and be content with my uncle being blown to pieces by his own people.

But anyways, once I had retired out of the Marine Corps, my father really began to open up to me about Vietnam.

It was horrible.
Something that can't be explained, only experienced.

He told me stories of the Viet Cont strapping bombs to children, then telling them the Americans had candy for them, only to blow the child up when they approached Marines. He told me about watching two Marines in a foxhole, taking a direct hit from a rocket and having to scoop their remains up with his helmet so they could be dumped into a bag.

The absoulute worst thing about the place according to my dad? Patrolling at night.

He explained that if You stopped paying attention to the man in front of you for even a few seconds, you could get separated and lost, then you're fucked. You just have to plop your ass on the ground and hope a friendly force finds you first (which wasn't very likely).

>>30676231

No, most veterans don't write literature. They're not authors, they're either professional soldiers or dock workers, factory workers, etc who become soldiers.

A lot of the most prominent anti-war literature of the first world war or associated with the first world war for example was written by cowards, civilians (Dalton Trumbo), deserters (Robert Graves), people barely at the front (Remarque, All Quiet is fiction I might add), or even fucking women (Joan Littlewood).

Honestly if you read most of the period non-fiction literature that has since been memory holed, the kind of shit that's now public domain, it's overwhelmingly patriotic and just describes the events of some action followed by a little word of how we'll get the hun soon or whatever. The same is true of what's typically put out by military non-fiction publishers for any war.

>>30676409
Jesus... Now THAT is a good reminder of the horrors of war

>>30676452
>I don't like anti-war literature so I'll just pretend it doesn't exist
>Then I will misrepresent diaries as pro-war and patriotic

Actually there is a good reason there is almost no pro-war literature: the pro-war psychopath is usually a mouth-drooling retard.

>>30676409
meat grinder

>>30675578

Those bandoleers are STILL what come with 5.56mm. The ammo is packed in clips, three clips in a little cardboard box, one cardboard box per bandoleer pouch, the whole thing packed in the ammo can.

>>30674931
Our God elected Pope's decrees can overturn anything written in the book. As it is on Earth, so it is in Heaven.
If he demands we kill Muslims during the Crusades, we are bound by faith to kill Muslims.
If he demands we kill men, women, and children subscribing to Anabaptism all throughout German, we are bound by faith to purge the Earth of heretics that falsely believe God forgives.
If he demands we bomb the living shit out of England, so help those fucked up teeth, by Faith they will die.

The Pope's words are from God's mouth.

>>30676409
>My uncle eventually went MIA in 67'.
>He was presumed dead after him and a few other got separated from their unit near Cambodia. His disappearence really fucked me up, I use to wonder exactly what happened to him, I harbored a lot of hate towards the Vietnamese after that, eapically when Platoon came to theaters. Specifically the scene where Manny gets abducted and killed. Just thinking that some little sland eyes shit probably tortured my uncle to death drove me insane.
>My dad came home in 70', He had some type of stroke and was deemed unfit for combat afterwards.

This reminds me of a Korean War story from one of my former co-workers.

>Grandpa was inna Marine Corps back in the day
>One day on patrol, end up in a firefight with gooks in a small valley
>Firefight turns into a lengthy affair, drawing in all available motherfuckers nearby for one big party with the Marines
>Platoon leader calls for artillery support because 'fuck this'
>Artillery being what it is, raises all kinds of hell for everyone
>Grandpa is lost
>No one can find him, despite searching
>Spend several hours looking
>Have to call it off and list him as MIA after three days

>Two weeks later, another patrol finds Grandpa to the northwest.
>Says an artillery blast was close enough to knock him cold
>Woke up among a bunch of dead gooks in the middle of the night, unable to find anyone.
>Lived in the bush with his Ka-bar and a scavenged SKS for all that time
>Killed three Gooks who were snooping around
>When he's returned to his unit, they figure out he had actually stealthed his way around their search parties cuz he thought they were enemies.

Even better part is that co-worker and two of his Marine relatives were stationed in the same area many years later. He said Granpa's valley was in-between his Army base and his uncle's Marine Corps base.

>>30672416
plenty of innocents died anyway the us and its allies had no issues with it

>>30669001
Does a wound like this require amputation? Or will he be able to recover from this?

>>30669311
Dubs checked, and underrated post kek.

>>30676857
No amputation needed.
Looks like he'll be lucky to have full articulation of his hand and wrist, probably a pretty nasty scar too, but he'll get to keep his hand.

>>30676231
>war is the same for everyone

Ya nah. I agree that war is terrible, but everyone has different experiences, and come away with those.

My dad was there. Luckily, he did nothing of note and his closest encounter with an enemy was either an enemy bush or that one commander he saw when he was high as fuck off of a joint laced with what he can only guess was Opium.

>War crime, waste of lives and resources, shouldn't have happened, etc.

>>30676899
>>War crime, waste of lives and resources, shouldn't have happened, etc.
It's easy saying that shit 40 years later with the benefit of hindsight. That's what nobody understands.

>>30676857
Pretty sure that's the wound after the necrotic flesh was removed, if it required amputation they probably would have just cut it off already.

>>30676937
>implying people weren't saying those things even as the war was being fought

>>30676409
I'd like to add to this, my father didn't despise the war, in fact he felt that we'd committed too much to it already and should have went the full nine yards on North Vietnam.

Before he passed away, he shared many of stories from Vietnam. Most of them as I recall were pretty positive. Things like running jokes amongst his unit, partying with his buddies while on R&R, getting drunk and being an ornery, smartass, shithead. (he said everyone called him Wild e because he wrote ACME on all his gear).


His words are "Vietnam had some of the best and worst times of my life, either way it was a hell of a time."

And I think what he said can pretty much can be applied to anyone who's time spent in the Millitary, in combat or not.

He was the major driving force behind me enlisting.

Miss you dad.

>>30677020
Not everyone. My father was more pissed about leaving than getting involved in the first place.

He said we'd committed too much to just up and leave.

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>>30667857
typical war lost by politicians. yeah we fucked up the VC but we could have totally decimated them. just like iraq, some politicians invented stupid "rules of engagement" which prevented a lot of tactical progress and victories.

our special forces guerilla warfare was extremely effective, and the vietnam war proved their value as force multipliers.

but you cant occupy territory and subjugate guerilla fighters, without 'going the distance'. and politicians made sure the military couldn't 'go the distance', if you know what i mean.

yes they were afraid of escalating to a larger war with russia head on. no, that would have never happened and we should have just blown the VC the fuck out of cambodia and laos early on in the war

and yeah, you think obama would learn a thing or two from vietnam about announcing to a still ongoing insurgency that the occupying force plans to leave in a year. nope, he went full retard and repeated history. like i said, politicians lose wars

Great way to send degenies to die

>>30676937
>implying it wasn't obviously fucked up to anyone knowledgeable about the region and its recent history who was alive at the time

>>30667864
>It ain't me
I was only 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urtiyp-G6jY

>>30676709
crazy story, sucks he was evading his own rescuers due to fear. that's got to be a motherfucker.

>>30677067
>our special forces guerilla warfare was extremely effective
>no intel worth a damn
>native south vietnamese allies were thoroughly infiltrated by enemy agents
>head of south vietnam counterintelligence was a northern spy
>the entirety sf operations in dmz area destroyed in the span of two months in 1968
>did absolutely nothing to interrupt enemy supplies in cambodia/laos even though that was their main goal

but... but... politicians lost the war.

>>30676409
>>30677036
RIP to your uncle and thanks for his service and same for your dad. true americans

would love to hear more of his stories if you got any you are willing to share

>>30677077
good song, thanks for posting

>>30677051
>let's go all in on an obvious debacle

genius

>>30669902
>dank anus sucker

accurate

>>30677109
>good song, thanks for posting
You're welcome. It's the ausfag version of It ain't me.

It's loaded with little references to things that all the vets know. It's kinda famous for making them cry. It's one of those songs where the artist was never anywhere near Vietnam (too young) but everyone says they nailed it.

It gets played at Anzac day a bit.

>>30677279
good shit man.

>>30677109
>>30677279
>>30677289

I got a few lines into decoding the place names for USfags but then I realised that Wikipedia had already done it all.

>Canungra: Jungle warfare training centre in the South-East Queensland Gold Coast hinterland, Queensland.
>The Grand Hotel: A hotel in Vung Tau that had been converted for Army use.
>Light green: parts on a map which indicated supposedly more dangerous areas for soldiers to patrol as there was little dense foliage and cover and an area which was more likely to be mined.
>Nui Dat: Village in Bà Rịa province in Southern Vietnam, and the main base of 1 Australian Task Force from 1965 to 1972
>Puckapunyal: Former Army enlisted soldier recruit training centre in Victoria.
>Shoalwater: Military exercise area in Queensland.
>Sixth Battalion: (aka 6RAR) Australian army battalion, whose D Company had been involved in the Battle of Long Tan during a tour three years earlier.
>Slouch hat: Parade head-dress for the Australian army.
>SLR: L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle (FN-FAL), standard 7.62 mm semi-automatic rifle issued to Australian infantrymen during the Vietnam War.
>Tinnies: Cans of beer.
>Townsville: City in Queensland, home of the Australian Army's 3rd Brigade & RAAF Base Townsville. Also at the time the embarkation point for troops shipping to Vietnam from all around Australia, because it was the biggest port in Northern Australia.
>VB: Victoria Bitter (beer).
>Vũng Tàu: Coastal city in Southern Vietnam which was both the main Australian logistic base and a rest area for troops based at Nui Dat.

I trimmed some of the really obvious shit that /k/ will understand E.G. I don't think you need Chinook explained.

>>30677099
If the threads alive tomorrow, I'll tell a few.
It's 3AM and I'm tired as shit right now.

>>30667857
fucking Big Business won, American, European, Canadian, Australian, Taiwanese and Japanese sweatshops in the Nam. Nike , 5.11, and Blackhawk all made in state capitalist/communist Vietnam

>>30676937
>France states "Bro, don't go in the jungle, these fuckers are everywhere"
What you don't understand is that no hindsight was needed, France fucking slogged through it already. Their government were so quick to pull out it in the end that they abandoned members of the foreign legion.
This prompted a lot of outrage from the French populous that demanded the FFL be retrieved.

>>30677408
Yes, Vietnam finally embraced the capitalist values so many young men fought and died for.

>>30677408
Big business always wins.
>Guam and Saipan both are havens for sweatshops
>Due to being American territories, both get to label everything "Made in America"
>Consumers proceed to fork over a premium price because "Support good ol' American workers" and "M-m-muh American pride and craftsmanship"
>Asian countries will fucking out source to Guam and Saipan
SEA sweatshops at least have the luxury of despite working for shit change, the cost of living in those areas are equally shit.

Guam and Saipan carry the cost of living befit of tourism spots and being island nations with minimal resources.

>>30677093
they did, the us should've invaded the north.

>>30677387
>>Tinnies: Cans of beer.
was wondering about that

>>30668936
Well, for what it's worth at least you wouldn't have to paint it black.

>>30677430
they commie gumba mint went full China.

>>30677513
thats why you gotta find out city and state where made in USA. also US prison labor is cheap and some states dont have minimum wage.

There should be a law stating that Northern Marinana Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam and Saipan
are not made in USA, only the 50 states.
and none of that BS where imported Chinese parts assembled on a Native reservation counts as Made in USA.

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>>30667857
Would have been South Korea 2: electric boogaloo by now if not for the Watergate scandal.

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>>30677908
You know, it was only with extremely good luck that South Korea even made it to the late 90s.
Just because America earns a "Mission Complete", does not mean they leave a good thing behind.
A Vietnam whose civil war and unification was dictated by dictated by the US would probably have ended up with even worse levels civil instability and soldiers firing upon citizens than South Korea. You people barely gave a shit about the crimes against humanity happening in Korea, and that was the country you liked.

>>30673316
>There was no country called Vietnam when the French arrived.
I'm sorry, but that is retarded. Did you think the French make the Indochina from totally uninhabited land or something?

>>30676611
This isn't how Roman Catholicism works at all. Nice try, Orthodox Herman.