Gearfag Thread

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>gearfag
what was wrong with gear queer? were two extra letters and a space too hard?

>>30667180
>what was wrong with gear queer?
Nothing, but it gets old.

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>outdoors

Hey, I've been there.

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>>30667159
>Ivar Bergmann
That dudes a bit of a nut right?

>>30667244
...well, yeah.

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I really should bring a camera with me innawoods

>>30667244
i hate that he doesnt fucking fix his audio, buy a fucking mic you lunatic

What does k recommend for some crye style ac type pants in tan or khaki that won't break the bank, is semapo gear any good? Only looking for solid color pants and crye is fuck all pricey

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but theres no A/C out there

>>30667244
Man that woodland really looks awful. I really liked it a lot as a kid, but I think I'm starting to hate it.

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>>30667159
I wonder how many of the regulars won't be able to post because they stay in their bathrooms all day.

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Outdoors? Sounds boring. Let me just post other people doing it instead

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Outside is overrated. Post cats.

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>>30668744

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The Narrows at Zion National Park.

>>30667191
What pants are those?

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Sapphire pool @ Yellowstone National Park.

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Hoover Dam.

>>30668899
Look like Gorka pants

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>>30667970
Looks awful on him

Gear queer threads have become like a comfy, condensed version of what all of /k/ used to be.

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>>30667159

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Battery Keyes, Fort Williams Maine.

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>>30668888
I've always wanted to do Zion. I have a friend who did the Narrows last year and she said it was amazing. Reminds me of the Grand Canyon.

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Boston Harbor.

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> some were inna dessert az

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>>30668981

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>>30668949
its more of a MARSOC thing where it only looks good.

>>30667159
It's 90 degrees and about to rain, can you even imagine the humidity in the midwest right now?

This place turns into a fucking jungle in the summer. The corn sweats and adds even more humidity to the air, the grass grows fucking chest high and everything looks different. Any part of woods turns to a shitty jungle.

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>>30669000

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>>30669012
And to keep it slightly gear related, the high sierra pack I took down with me.

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>>30668981

Zion is fucking beautiful. I want to spend about two weeks there. The Grand Canyon is great too, but Zion is just way more vibrant IMHO.

>>30669005
Try spreading your feet wider and dropping your strong side foot back. I've seen guys who weigh 195lbs get rocked back by a 9mil because they stand like you are. Most of them don't even notice because they've been doing it for too long.

>>30669022
GC can be vibrant too. That first image I posted isn't really a good example. Look at >>30669000

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Florida Everglades.

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>>30669032
people put a little too much focus on standing. shoulder width apart and a semi athletic stance gets you pretty far.

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>>30669033

Yeah, that's pretty man. Here's another shot of the Narrows.

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Obligatory UDT shorts pic @ Florida keys.

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>>30668992
>fossil creek az

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Rainbow Falls, Watkins Glen NY. I was there in November, so everything is drab and gray. It's very pretty at a more seasonable time of year.

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>>30669067
Gotta agree. I grew up shooting the old school way. Left foot forward, right foot back aka the weaver stance. And as much as I try to tacticool it with the isoceles, it just doesn't work for me or feel right.

Personally though, I think this is because I do MMA/Kickboxing, and I literally do that stance while fighting people. So it comes very natural and I am very balanced in that stance.

>>30667244
>camo pattern tarp
>glossy finish

I hate those things

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The Vegas strip. Went there immediately after leaving Zion. It was october, the temperature at Zion had been in the 70's. At Yellowstone the week before it had been in the 50's and they were closing it down for the winter. When we got to Vegas it was 11pm and 90°, my DCU pants were still wet and sandy from hiking through the narrows and I hadn't packed any shorts, had to wear blue jeans. When we went to Hoover Dam the next day it was 101° A local would probably think that quite pleasant but to a northerner like myself it was a bit of a system shock.

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>>30669067
Video self shooting .2 splits and analyze if you're getting pushed back. At the very least your pistol stance in that picture is not semi-athletic at all. Here is a vid of a heavier shooter, with a slightly more athletic stance, shooting a comped 9mm, and he's still getting rocked back because his weight distribution is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blmtgieB0Ps

>>30669182
Isosceles nowadays doesn't just mean squared up feet. Most everyone drops their strong side foot back at least a little.

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>>30667191
>>30668899
Fjallraven Keb

Pic related is me in RMNP

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>>30669275
I'm just going off what Pat Mcnamara says, stance isn't that important.

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>>30669393
> Bro those jangly ass keys are going to give away you position

>>30668112
Because posting the pic of that one time you went outside 2 years ago, which you post in every thread, is better.

>>30669434
i wasn't operating, it was a /k/ meet. we were just hanging out.

>>30668991
Gearfag /out/ thread not, "show me you vacation photos while wearing a camo boonie"

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From Vegas and Hoover Dam we made our way to the South rim of the Grand Canyon, after that we went to the North Rim, which is markedly more remote and takes almost as long to drive between them as it does to hike since you have to drive across half of Arizona to get there. After the North Rim we made our way to Bryce Canyon in Utah.

>>30668949
Looks awful in general. It's really dark compared to the Flecktarn here >>30667159

>>30669430
If that's a pic of him shooting one footed, it doesn't do anything to disprove the point. His weight is entirely on his front foot, which is what people would consider nearly an ideal stance. As a matter of fact, Rob Leatham recommends shooting while standing on your front foot to find the ideal weight distribution, then putting your rear foot back down lightly. So pretty much all your weight is on the front foot and a tiny tiny fraction is on your rear, pretty much the same thing as in that pic.

Also I have a lot of respect for Pat but he is not the blazingest shooter out there. A USPSA GM will outshoot him almost any day of the week.

>>30669469
are you saying camo boonies aren't gear?
fuk u

>>30669439
I go out once a month bruh. It's just been too hot lately for anyone to want to go innadesert. During the hot months it's indoor ranges with minimal gear. So don't get your beard pubes all twisted because some or us don't just hang out in our bathrooms.

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>>30667159
Looks like bf4 sniper.

>>30669067

Wait, is a natural, athletic stance no longer the standard for shooting offhand? Fuck that.

>>30669067
empty that trash can full of sugar water cups.

>>30669684
>implying there's anything athletic about skeletor

for a fun time practice bayonet drills with your rifle (no ammo or bayonet even needed). just try it for 3 minutes, you will be exhausted.

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>>30669736
thats not my job at the range.
>>30669684
Isosceles became pretty popular and most people just keep their feet even, and will lean far forward.

>>30669845

Long live based Weaver Stance

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>>30669845
>Isosceles became pretty popular and most people just keep their feet even, and will lean far forward.

Then they've been taught outdated methods from the 90s and the MP5 days. Sounds about right for Muhreens. People have been shooting with the mod. isosceles stance (squared shoulders, squared pelvis, strong side leg dropped back) for decades now.

So what do you guys use to divide up gear/food/clothing in your pack? I'm currently ziploc-tier.

>>30667244
>Moljnir tattoo

This guy's outta control.

>>30667180
Newfag who doesn't know everyone is a fag. Fagfag

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>>30670046
Stuffsacks, ziplock freezer bags, tape, rubberbanfs, and MOLLE pouches are all valid. I label my shit too so I don't have to be uncertain what thing is in what pouch.

>>30669434
You bring the rifle to your shoulder. Not your shoulder to the rifle. You won't hit chit hunched over like that.

>>30668963
Oh yeah, whatever happened with that?
Any info on what it was about?

>>30670046
In ranger school I would use 2 gallon ziplock bags, I could fit 2 layers of my sleep system in just one, then one for uniforms. Undershirts and socks you want in smaller bags, also a spare set of gloves/fleece hat is nice. I would pack all the ziplock bags into a black contractor garbage bag, double it in another contractor garbage bag, and i could compress my shit waaaay more than anyone trying to use the issue wet weather bag. Kept everything completely dry during swamp movements and when we had to float our rucks.

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Arcteryx Stowe pants did well considering how often they get smashed together by the metal eyelet hooks on my boots. Very fast drying and breathable.

>>30670163
Thanks
>>30670265
Interesting. One aspect of my bugout bag is that in an earthquake I might need to cross a river and a couple creeks to get home.

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>>30670325
Some yotes near me that night

>>30669007
Iowafag here. Its miserable. But I love the cold so I'm biased. Don't wanna leave the a.c. today but I went and shot, because shit doesn't hit the fan Only when it's sunny and 75

>>30670653
>sunny and 75
>implying that's not disgusting summer heat
I regret ever having left the arctic circle

>>30669007
Indianafag here. Humidity is bad but I just spent a week in New Orleans and I have never experienced such heat, 100 degrees and 80% hum.

>>30670265
So what, you just packed your WW bag in with everything else? It was on the packing list.

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Holy shit, why did nobody ever tell me about TRC?

Best $50 I've ever spent on a range.

>>30671156
>TRC

Break break break
What is TRC

>>30671188
guessing it stands for The Range Complex? It's what became of Tigerswan shooting instruction when they were split off from the other contracting stuff.

>>30671188
http://www.therangecomplex.com

We showed up, spent 2 minutes filling out a liability sheet, BLAZE OPS'ed for 3 hours, and only spent 50 bucks.

A fucking Sunday afternoon and nobody was there but us and some Rangers.

>>30671212
Tango Yankee my nig

>>30670718
Come to Tennessee, we regularly have 90+ degrees and 100% humidity

>>30667159
>>30667244
>>30670047

This looks like my kind of individual. Who is he?

>>30671144
Yep, just left it crumpled up in the bottom, pretty much everyone stopped using them after darby because they are shit anyways.

>>30667159
>>30667180
>>30669393

Cuck posers

>>30671242

What group do you go with? I was planning on going there for their handgun/rifle courses

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>>30667159
Flecktarn with Sumpf or Splittertarn bits sewed on, why the fuck would anybody do that?
He also got the faggy gloves, the olive ones are better
Plus, there's a good velco patch on the left side but he put his nametag on the right side, I mean why...

>>30671400
Myself and 2 other dudes just rented out the multi-purpose range and fucked around.

No real rhyme or reason to it.

>>30671442

Do yall gearfag out and do tactical drills and shit?

Ive been out of army for a year and this is my dream. Lemme tag along fag

>>30671531
You don't even know, I'll see if I can get the pics my buddies took.

Anyone have a banshee PC? Still can't decide if that's the one I want.

Also just ordered a IIIa concealed vest and plates. Soon I'll be able to get shot.

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>>30671409
I think you're taking his outfit a little too seriously. That dude's a literal mountain man who doesn't see people for weeks at a time. He's obsessed with Norse mythology and predators in nature. He literally killed a bear with an AK74.

In short, he's totally crazy.

>>30671370
Oh wow that sure hurt my feelings!

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so, got my Arcteryx assault pants today, I like the small improvements over the older Talos pants like waist adjustments and a better way to put the hard knee pads in.
they took away the calf pocket though, but not a huge deal

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>Filename
It's like you don't even like rock climbing

>>30669098
What shoes you got there?

>>30669322
How's Fjallraven's stuff? Is it decent quality? I'm looking to buy one of their jackets for winter.

>/k/ making me want to spend money I don't have
>the thread

fucj you guys

The thing about these threads is that you can never truly be satisfied with what you have

It is an unending quest for the perfect kit

Its like finding a unicorn

You think you have it and then one faggot posts some sexy flektarn and you have to rethink everything you once knew

>>30671932
I have a 50 gallon bucket that's overflowing with gear and I can't stop buying more

>>30669393
>my feet hurt
>Why am I wear this fucking jacket
>it's so hot
>this plate carrier is chafing
>now that I'm innawoods...it's still feel empty inside

>>30671996
Kek, i wore that jacket because I like it as a meme camo and because it was 100+ and was getting sunburnt.

>>30671790
I've been there, neat place

>>30672035
Jesus dude, do you have an excuse or justification for every little criticism, barb, or joke at your expense?

>>30672258
Chill

>>30671904
>Is it decent quality?
Err, I' say high quality. They allow better movement and breathability than any others I've owned, including Crye Combat Pants. I paid a premium however. The Keb pants are $300 retail, but the major sale dates reduce that price by 25%.

>>30672761
Have you tried the Vertx pants? The Fjallravens look nice but I have a budget and I want to be able to afford extra pants.

What's a good poly pant to wear in the rain? I have a goretex overpant in multicam, but wonder if there is a decent rain resistant and quick drying pant. Pls be under $200.

>>30672821
>Have you tried the Vertx pants?
Have not, sorry.

>>30672819
Cool, any larger pics?

>>30669170
Whaaa walkins glen. Are you from the finger lakes new friend?

>>30667180
>>30672258
Having a bad day?

>>30672992
it all started when his unit tossed away the Bradleys

>>30673045
>losing the bradleys
>bad
They've been teasing us with light infantry status for two years. If we did that, we'd actually have money to train and send guys to schools

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>>30672888
Only took this one today, but i guess i can just zoom a little.

>>30673152
What rifle?

>>30673207
Tikka T3 SS

>>30672258
why do you care?

>>30670265
You could fit the light sleeping bag in a 2 gallon bag? Really?

>>30673314
Yeah, sounds like bullshit to me.

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Why not operate with tactical messenger bag or shoulderbag?

>>30673365
Cause accessing mags and shit out of a floppy sack is hell. Also uneven weight distribution on your shoulders.

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>>30667159
what is this badass camo?!

>>30673406
Fuck off underage

>>30673419
you pretending you know but you arent going to tell because im not cool for asking?
fuckin retard.

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>>30673406
looks like flektarn my guy

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Alright /k/, with all the happenings going down, I want to start carrying armor in my car. I'm not looking for some big crazy chest rig. I just want a simple vest with level 3 protection or up to put on underneath a jacket or sweatshirt so I can grey man the fuck out of there if SHTF.

suggestions for plates and a carrier? I've looked around some, but I don't know which brands are good.

>>30673522
level 3 or 3a?

>>30673522
what rifle is that?

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>>30673517
thx bro.

>>30673547

The difference being hard plates vs. soft armor right? I'd rather have plates

>>30667191
Where'd you get those pants?

>>30673596
You are gonna have to pay more for nice level III plates. The steel stuff has the same downsides as all steel armor, the UHMWPE plates won't stop M855. Try going to AT Armor or SKD Tactical. They both have fairly slick carriers available and fairly well priced level IV plates. AT Armor has some gucci level III+ and special threat plates for sale as well.

>>30673406
flecktarn
this is an example of a similar jacket
http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-rufus-insulated-jacket-mens?CMP_SKU=TNF01LX&MER=0406&skid=TNF01LX-BRBNFLPR-L&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=5920953D-A74D-E511-80F1-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&gclid=CjwKEAjw_LG8BRDb1JTxm8uP_UwSJADu_8pWvaI4l5fapDraVm_lWjvoqE2hSEb3wxQoRpjpMqeoJRoCWGHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

>>30673602
>reading comprehension

>>30673577

According to google it's a .308 VEPR with a custom stock?

Are the Ultra-lightLevel IIIPLUS
Ceramic / Polyethylene Rifle Plates
on Bulletproofme.cum any good? Or should I get something in IIIA?

>>30673731
>IIIA
nigga you understand thats pistol calibers only right? it doesnt even stop 7.62x25.
just buy level IV armor and call it a day

>>30673755
But I want something lighter friend, any recommendations?
For something light between 200-300 dollars a plate. That won't turn to shit in 'extreme' weather.

>>30673522
It depends on what your wearing. Ive been musing this exact same concept. A level 2 soft vest is about the best concealable protection you can get. After that, and its going to become more and more apparant that youve got something under there. If you want rifle protection, you gotta get thinnest multicurve lvl ivs you can get
The 3+ polyethelene plates were something i was looking at for the weight savings, but they're thicker than lvl iv ceramics.

>>30673731
the III+ plates seem good. Armor Wear is fairly reputable.

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>>30669393

Wow bro you look fat

>>30673731
The problem with those plates is the temperature vunerability. Otherwise, i really like them as a concept. 3+ plates, 4 pounds each. to me, thats significant enough to forgo level iv.

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>>30669393

Why is he looking down the ground? Is he contemplating over the Ukrainian soldier he just killed?

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>>30673782
spend more money on them then.
I'm probably gunna be spending around 700 bucks at least per plate for my next armor set if I want the lightweight line of fire plates.
still 5 pounds a plate is light for me
>>30673807
>>30673819
only downside is there is no actual III+ NIJ rating, so any company can call its armor "III+" without validity.

>>30668078
Forgot Fenix (flashlights)
Benchmade, Spyderco, Chris Reeves, Zero Tolernace, ect
AVOID: SOG, Gerber,

>>30673914
>still 5 pounds a plate is light for me
agreed
at some point there is diminishing marginal returns chasing gear weight, and people would just be better off losing 6 lbs instead of paying $300 more, per plate, just to cut 6 total lbs of plate weight.

>>30673334
>>30673314
You do realize the entire bivy compresses to less than a gallon in the sack it comes with?

>>30671780

Kinda surprised this kid's neighbors didn't call the police. Maybe his parents told them beforehand?

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>>30673961
most likely.
still it is impressive when you pick up a plate and it weighs basically nothing.

>>30673914
Skelly what upotte would you cosplay as?

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Can y'all tell me what they are wearing

>>30674056

Wait, I thought he was cosplaying?

>>30673914
Valhala
Admit One
fucking awesome

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>>30674056
I hope it will be sako

>>30674044
Nigger, I've been in the suck and I know what 5 pounds can feel like after rucking for hours and patrolling for days.
That's why I needs me that light plate, though I don't think that the polyethylene plates will get damaged so easily since I'm not anywhere extremely hot or cold, in which case plates would be a moot point since the only thing you'd wanna protect is you're hydration/calorie count.

Perhaps these plates are the poor man's plate, but at the same time the plates that I was issued weren't much better they were heavy and could only stop 308.

Plus there's youtube videos of this plate undergoing "extreme tests"
So it's better than nothing I suppose.

Besides it would be hard to justify to my family spending 700-1000 on a plate, shit they already think I'm crazy since I dropped about 1.5k on gear within the last two months and much more on my guns and ammo.

>>30673596
If you going plates why not go lvl4?

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>>30674056
AKS-74U I guess, I'm more of a Sabagebu fan
>>30674159
just saying at most you're gunna be saving is like 3-4 pounds total, for something that can't stop 5.56

>>30673914
I've seen plates listed at $1000, what advantage do those offer over, say, a $500 plate? You told him to spend more, why?

>>30674647
3+ can stop 5.56 all day long

>>30674667
because you get more threat level with lighter weight usually.
>>30674696
III+ is a marketing term that has no validity in NIJ.

>>30674647
police that brow

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Any good ways to hold shotgun shells on a carrier? The hsgi shell trays look pretty good but is there anything else to consider?

>>30674713
Then don't go off the III+, ask the manufacturer if you can see the test data. Unfortunately, the NIJ standards are not infallible, as we saw in the Zylon debacle.

>>30674713
Level 3 can stop almost all 5.56 except XM193 out of a 20" barrel which is uncommon on normie ARs to begin with. Making the assumption that any given 3+ plate is better than a level 3, pretty much any level 3+ plate is going to be able to stop all 5.56 except for maybe M855A1 which is kind of a moot point. Just because there is no set standard doesn't mean that there aren't readily available 3+ plates that can easily stop 5.56.

Will a pig brigandine sapi carrier in small carry those cheap polyethylene plates you gents talking about?

>>30674696

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbgWi_NhMNg

>>30674785
That depends on the type of armor. UHMWPE level III plates will stop M193 handily but will fail against M855. Steel level III plates struggle with M193 but will stop M855 handily. The level III+ plates vary in performance, most of the steel ones are just "make armur thicc lol" or "make stel harder guiz", while there aren't really any 100% UHMWPE III+ plates, they're all hybrid plates of ceramic+poly or steel/titanium+poly. The Armor Wear plates posted are ceramic+poly.

>>30674829
>level IIIa is the same as III+
Stop posting

>>30674785
>XM193 out of a 20" barrel which is uncommon on normie ARs to begin with
you do understand theres .223 Savage's and Remingtons right? which basically every fudd will have, or a 22-250 which easily defeats level III and "III+"
and my issue with III+ is that there is no standard. a company could shoot a III+ plate 10 times with 5.56 and if the 11th goes through they could easily say "well it stopped 10 rounds of 5.56, III+"

while NIJ can be fallible it at least creates a standard to follow.

>>30674856
You're right I'm drunk.

>>30674859
If you have to bring up .22-250 you are officially grasping

Yes I know there are .223 bolt guns but they're uncommon. If a plate can survive 10 shots of XM193 then I'm happy with it. I know there's no standard, but there are YouTube tests. Buy a plate with plenty of video tests from a company with a reputation for consistency and you're golden.

I don't see any problem with it for civilians who will probably never need it anyways. They're a good combination of weight, price, and performance.

>>30674915
I dont understand, why would someone buy steel when they can buy level 4 ceramics with the same or less weight for only around $20 more than two steel plates would cost

>>30674915
Youtube testing is not really a substitute for independent lab tests from HP White or others. Remember that a youtube test is basically a sample size of one, plus the details of testing (eg: how is the plate strapped down, etc)

>>30669056
Nice, I'd like to head out there sometime.

>>30670694
>sunny and 75
>how about 96 and raining?
>Florida

>>30674915
>If you have to bring up .22-250 you are officially grasping
>if you have to bring up an extremely common rifle calibre that defeats my plates you're just being dumb.
hokay bud, buy what you want to save 3-4 pounds total weight and have a worst protection rating

>>30675174
But its not.

>>30674992
A ceramic plate at the same price as a 3+ plate is going to weigh pounds more per plate.

>>30675174
>extremely common rifle calibre
>.22-250
Pick one.
>.22-250 being common
>.22-250 being the cartridge of choice for SHTF headhunters

>>30675196
it's not what? an extremely popular calibre? basically every varmint rifle made comes in 22-250, its a standard cartridge and is quite popular in the hunting world.

>>30675219
>in stock at 90% of walmarts
>not being common

>>30675236
>>30675220
I would literally bet money that neither one of you knows a single person with a rifle chambered in .22-250.

>>30675219
>A ceramic plate at the same price as a 3+ plate is going to weigh pounds more per plate
ar500armor 3+ : 8.0lbs
armor wear ceramic package deal plates: 7.5lbs

>>30675219
Literally one of the most common varmint rounds on earth, faget.

>>30675288
That's because steel. The $220 Armor Wear III+ plates are 5lbs per.

>>30675304
what? im comparing the level 3+ ar500armor plates ($230 for 2 mc) and armor wear package deal plates ($250 for mc). The person I was replying to thinks that ceramics in the same price range would be multiple pounds heavier but they are actually lighter and have a higher protection level while only being $20 more

>>30673966
Dude, like pics or it didn't happen. A bivy and a green in a ziploc? Fuck off.

>>30675295
"Common varmint round" is not mutually exclusive from "uncommon rifle round"

.17HMR is also a common varmint round.. That doesn't make it a common round in general. I know one single person with a .17HMR, and nobody with a .22-250, and I know a LOT of fudds.

>>30675288
Cherrypicking. I can do the same thing in the opposite direction.

>>30675304
The bulletproof me ones weigh even less

>>30675268
I actually do and I have shot it.

>>30675353
>"Common varmint round" is not mutually exclusive from "uncommon rifle round"
>"A lot of people use this for varmints, but it is a super rare round."

>>30675268
nigga I sold dozens of rifles in 22-250 while working at a gun store.
every neighbour in my county in manitoba had a 22-250.
my dads cousin used a 22-250 to hunt deer.

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Suggestions for operator winter boots?

>>30675349
But at no point has anyone discussed buying steel III+ plates here. We're talking about ceramic/poly hybrids.

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>>30667159
How do I gear queer for the mojave? Planning on getting a light tan chest rig, but that's about all I have so far.

>>30675353
>Cherrypicking
>I can do the same thing
alright, show me a 3+ steel plate ( full sized, not with 2 inches of material trimmed off to make a "light weight shooters cut") that costs significantly less than the armor wear plates and is multiple pounds less than the armor wear plates.
>>30675389
I asked "why would someone buy steel when they can buy level 4 ceramics with the same or less weight for only around $20 more than two steel plates would cost" in response to someone saying "They're a good combination of weight, price, and performance." in reference to steel plates. Surely you can understand this anon.

>>30673402
^This. I used to take a messenger bag camping, to carry things that didn't fit in my backpack.
Now I just have a bigger backpack, and my shoulder thanks me for it.

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>>30667159
Me in the WA woods. Polish poncho, Swiss pants

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>>30675515
Who let you out of the bell tower?

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>>30675553
I got cucked by esmerelda, now I'm trying to 'find myself'.

>>30674752
Those velcro shot tabs

>>30674752
>>30675583
Attach this to your plate carrier:
http://www.511tactical.com/12-rd-shotgun-pouch.html

or attach these to your shotgun and rig:
http://www.perrozdesigns.com/shop/equipment/detachable-shotgun-card/

>>30675473
>hehehe I get to make the rules
No you don't.
Bulletproofme's 3+ is 4.7lbs for I think $210. Find me a ceramic in that same neighborhood of cost and weight, shooter's cut or not, I don't care. Find me one that weighs 5lbs and costs around $210 from a reputable company and I'll buy it tomorrow.

>>30675375
>bro, when SHTF and those .22-250's start flying, you're gonna wish you had lvl IV's!
Think about how ridiculous this sounds. Pretty ridiculous, right?

If you end up dead because you got shot by a .22-250 and you didn't shell out for ceramics then that's just shitty fucking luck. You're far more likely to get shot somewhere that isn't armored by any given caliber. I'm not going to pay hundreds more for a lightweight lvl 4 plate that I will probably never ever use just so I can have the peace of mind that it can stop .22-250 of all fucking rounds.

>>30675373
A lot of people use reversible lockwire pliers for safety wiring a bolt. That doesn't make it a common tool to find in any given toolbox.

A lot of people may use .22-250 for varmint hunting. But rifles built specifically for varmint hunting only represent a small fraction of total gun sales, and it probably wouldn't be very many people's first choice in SHTF.

>>30675652
>>30675583
Thanks, I have a pretty good idea on how I want to set this up now

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>>30667159
I went inna Cascades
https://youtu.be/moHLevVmLao

>>30674752
Bought a condor pouch thing that unfolds with velcro and holds a bunch of shells. http://www.militaryclothing.com/Condor-Shotgun-Shell-Reload-Pouch-Black.aspx?id=18040-MA61-002-A&gclid=CjwKEAjw_LG8BRDb1JTxm8uP_UwSJADu_8pW6Awkz7DhxApF4Q2Lj75wQbMgywuPjhO0ON0RFzn0axoCGK_w_wcB&ad=76800671909

>>30675673
then spend hundreds more so you can stop 5.56 which III can't do.
and again III+ having no standard you're risking that it could only stop 1-2 rounds more than III to get that + rating.

>>30675673
Obviously their $210 per plate Ceramic / Polyethylene plates are going to be better than $250 for two ceramics. Did you completely forget my original question? I said: "I dont understand, why would someone buy steel when they can buy level 4 ceramics with the same or less weight for only around $20 more than two steel plates would cost" You then responded by saying any ceramic in the same price range "is going to weigh pounds more per plate". I showed you how this was incorrect and how the level 4 ceramic plates were actually more lightweight than the 3+ steel plates in my example and you dismissed my example as cherry picking. I then gave you an opportunity to show me 3+ steel plates that were pounds less per plate (refer to your earlier quote about the ceramics being pounds more per plate) and cost less than the ceramics (if you still cant figure out why I asked for an example of such a plate then refer to my original question). So you respond by bringing up $420 for two plates that arent even steel? Do I really have to spell this all out for you anon?

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>>30674087
Centre Europe camoflauge

>>30675714
What I want is a lightweight, inexpensive plate, most importantly capable of stopping handgun cartridges (probably the most common threat in the USA) along with multiple hits of all common "SHTF" rifle rounds, namely 5.56, 7.62x39, and .308. The bulletproofme 3+ seems to fit the bill pretty well.

Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, though?
http://www.skdtac.com/BAE-NIJ-IV-SA-Plate-p/amr.114.htm
This isn't crazy expensive, and very lightweight, discontinued though.

>>30675800
I don't even know what you're on about at this point.

The best you've done so far is show me a ceramic set that's 7.5lbs/plate. That's still nowhere near 4.7lbs. That's the best you've done. The best I've done is a 3+ plate for $210 that's 4.7lbs. I'm asking you to beat that. You have not done so yet. I am still waiting, because I'm in the market and would genuinely like to know of such a cheap and lightweight lvl 4 plate.

>>30675679
>using your right hand to cycle the action
literally why

>>30675880
Literally it was designed to be used that way.

>>30675878
again, I originally asked in the thread: "I dont understand, why would someone buy steel when they can buy level 4 ceramics with the same or less weight for only around $20 more than two steel plates would cost".
Im sorry but if you cant understand what im on about after I literally walked you through the entire thing step by step in >>30675800 then you have the reading comprehension level of a third grader.

>>30675945
Your first post was in response to me talking about 3+. Nowhere in that post did I specify steel 3+. That's a qualification you invented on your own, for some reason.

>>30675945
Get a trip pls.

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>>30675880
Because I wanted to do it slowly and appreciate it.

>>30675896
and the AR was designed to be used without a forward assist, and to grab the charging handle on both sides, things change and become streamlined.
>>30675878
probably, if you're lucky you can score ESAPI's on ebay for like 200 bucks a set.
>>30675992
could still do that with your left hand though.

Would y'all make fun of me for being fat?

>>30676031
Yes.

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>>30676011
I did mix it up, I had like 400 rounds to blow. Honestly though why does that trigger you and not me using my middle finger?

>>30676031
Yes

Spend money on a gym membership before you spend money on geer. At the very least you should be in the process of losing those pounds, and anything you buy now won't fit when you actually get in shape.

>>30675981
And I asked about steel which should have clearly indicated to you that I was asking about steel.

>>30676046
because just been trained in me to keep my dominant hand on my grip basically all times.

and I've used my middle finger while trying to shoot fast with enfields.

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>>30676108

>>30674807
Pls respond.

>>30676149
if you get small sized plates.

>>30675880
>>30676011
>things change and become streamlined
Ugh, this is so stupid. Can you just stop getting triggered for dumb shit like this? There are people out there that could run you into the dirt with an AK who use their right hand to charge it. You're acting like he tried to rotate the magazine into the ejection port or something.

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>>30676108
Dat programming, I know what you mean.

>>30676108
>because just been trained in me
By who, what? You've never been in an army right?

>>30676011
I'd be wary about buying a cheapo ESAPI off eBay, might have been dropped or something else weird with it.
I know plastic 3+ plates aren't the best in the world, but we're talking about something I will probably never ever need, and if I ever did need, would probably still be perfectly adequate. I'd love to have some $800 ceramics but I'd be better served spending that money elsewhere.

>>30676131
NICE meme truly nice meme

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>>30676165
>There are people out there that could run you into the dirt with an AK who use their right hand to charge it
probably, doesnt mean its not a inefficient way to reload.
>>30676184
basically, I'm trying to reteach myself to actuate the safety everytime I reload currently
also is that KLMK clothing hot as balls or what?

>>30676207
>By who
cadets marksmanship programs, cadets summer camps dealing with enfields and c7's
hanging out with friends who are in the military.
just because you're not in an army doesnt mean you can't be trained to do something.
>>30676212
>I'd be wary about buying a cheapo ESAPI off eBay, might have been dropped or something else weird with it.
agreed, I got extremely lucky with my XSAPI's since they were 200 bucks and they were 100% fine when I checked them at a x ray clinic.

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>>30676215
Its basically an over suit, I usually wear some kind of thermal layer under it when it gets cold as its pretty light. Its a sumrak suit cut out of berezka (gold leaf klmk)

>>30676058
I had a membership.. never used it, I think I ned to cut back on food really and then I should be better off... I wanna get down to a hulky 220 or 200. I've got probably 50lbs of fat on my body. It's hard to deal with sometimes. I hate not being able to run very much, I do need to start running.

>>30676215
Your "shock and awe" isn't relevant to situations in which people use their right hand to charge a right handed charging handle, close one eye when aiming through a reflex sight, or order wine at a biker bar. These things happen all the time. If you hadn't ever been outside of your house you wouldn't know that was the case.

>guh, literally why, WHY...LITERALLY DUDE?

Because you're quite literally autistic.

>>30676244
>just because you're not in an army doesnt mean you can't be trained to do something.
Yeah okay. I asked and then you were a faggot about it.

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>>30676296
you seem quite butt blasted over a couple words.
I believe it is you who's autistic mate.
>>30676308
hardly, you suggested It.

>>30676336
Eh, gonna have to disagree with you on this one skele. people charge their aks like that most of the time on my range.

>>30676262
Is it actually durable?

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>>30676375
and your point?
it's not as fast/efficient as a left hand reload though which is my point.

>>30676406
well i guess my point is that it isnt really weird to see

i dont know i just think your acting a little "spergy' if you please

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>>30676397
That probably depends on the model, mine was issued in '04. No major damage so far after heavy use.

>>30674087
It's the French army uniform, with French camo pouches. They look tan because the dirt in Africa sticks to everything

>>30675679

>being short

>exaggerating recoil

>slapping the trigger

>>30675679
>this is running around in my hills

This is why private ranges are a thing.

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>>30677398
>Having fun
>>30677739
What do you mean by this?

>>30675442
A coyote pelt as a hat, red shirt, gray kilt, and some football shoulders pads attached to a plate carrier.

Ave

>>30677776
that pic

>>30667191
>lookin neat
>neat lookin place
>chillin with bros

>everyone jumps to "wut pants r thos"
>no one cares what opey was doing or his neat story.

This has confirmed what I've known all along.
You're all a bunch of limp dicked kids that like to play dress up

>>30667191
Didn't mean yo tho bro. Meant the other fuckers

>>30669963
Orrr you could not be such a lightweight that gets knocked around by some rockin and square the fuck up. There are many reasons why it's superior.

I'd say if you're firing some heavy shit, brace yourself but otherwise you look like a weak dickmuncher

>>30673681
>>30673577
Vepr Hunter, I believe.
They look nice but they don't bed for shit in the stock which results in them being kinda shitty in general. The stock attaches both to the receiver and barrel creating some really weird tension that varies with the weather. The Super has the same problems. Under the hood it's the standard AK furniture attachment points applied to a full stock. The Hunter does have a fully adjustable trigger pack which is removable and is supposed to be quite nice for an AK. It also has a cutout for a side rail scope mount but I don't honestly know if it's a standard AK rail or if the placement is either.

>>30667877

Crye's are fucking overrated and you don't need them. Just go to a surplus store and get regular shit then buy some Arc'Teryx knee pads and call it a day.

t. faggot who spend hundreds on Crye bullshit

>>30675679
shiiiet. i can't wait to davai with josh

>>30675679
>all those air shit videos
Still looks fun though. Neat.

>>30667914
>but theres no A/C out there
He's right. Everyone back inside.

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>>30677880
Dude, tell me about it. I saw someone literally talking shit about the picture in an older thread because "he wasn't wearing enough gear for a gear queer thread".

>mfw

I just want to feel normal while browsing this site, but people make it hard.

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>>30676215

>aimpoint mounted on a dust cover-mounted rail

>>30677950
Enjoy being a mediocre shooter forever, then. There is no functional advantage to trying to square up your feet.

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>>30669633
>viper hood
>no scrim

Oh c'mon now.

>>30679005
It's a hinged cover. It's fine, really.

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its good to get /out/

>>30679553
Slavs/rebel alliance can't afford decent jute

>>30674087
Are those legionnaires?

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Outdoors is fun.

>>30671307
he makes youtube videos
seach for Ivar Bergmann on youtube, he's basically practicing escape and evasion inna alaska

>>30680329
where is this? do niggers and especially sandniggers exist in that area?

>>30675565
>wanna know how many bodies are buried here?

>>30676285
Start tomorrow, no exceptions.

>>30680418

I just googled that name and found nothing, guess I should have tried that too. Thanks anon.

>>30677880
I remember him saying hog hunting in an earlier thread. Made me jealous.

>>30671252
Nashville isn't so horrible because there isn't as much corn around.

>>30671685
Alaskans have done that too, charging bear w/ AK-74 in a pinch. Took 15 rounds or so, but it worked. Was on Alaskan DNR website.

>>30680440
West coast of hockey land. There are a fair few East Indians, lots of Asians on the coast. Natives spattered about.

Where I live it's mainly whites. With world class fishing on your door step and hiking galore. But canadian gun laws are meh, 5 rounds sucks and no bush carry in provincial parks.

>>30673914
do you guys carry rifle in hand all the time when you go hiking or sling it or stow it away?

Also, what sling is that?

>>30680546
Looks like a VCAS.

>>30680546
Vickers Combat Application Sling Padded version
so yeah what >>30680585 said.

>>30673924
>Gerber
why them

>>30667970
i was always a big fan of OD green for some reason. it seems effective enough and utilitarian at the same time if you add a pair of jeans.

What shoes do you wear? I need a new set of boots.

>>30680498
Are you sure that wasn't Bergmann? His story sounds exactly like that. Also, he is Alaskan.

>>30681138
Lowa Zephyr GTX.

What's a good flashlight for my rifle?

>>30681138
Lowa Zyphyr

>>30681081

Fellow M70AB2 owner! How is the paracord wrap? Is it obstructive to folding the rifle in any way?

How do you do it, anyways? I've always been retarded with rope.

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>>30681219
Works fine. Just wrap tightly and tie it off. This cord has been on my rifle for years and not come undone.

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>>30667159
I want to get a plate carrier for some autistic reason.

Would a Weestach be fine?

>>30681291

Is your wood Ironwood or something? Looks way better than mine.

Do you feel as if the paracord is more abrasive than the standard metal? I've heard conflicting reports that it's actually more uncomfortable.

>>30681319
Yeah, walnut from Ironwood.

Paracord is super comfy to me. I hold a really tight cheekweld, and really tight to my shoulder. I use the cord to lessen the vibrations that transfer to my jaw.

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MAS Grey...

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Also some mystery ranch stuff. Got a Carson Mountain ruck recently

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you know that you guys are gonna be the first to get shot when the HABBEDIGN comes, right?

>>30681642

Alright, just ordered 100 feet, which I'm assuming is more than enough.

Both sides of yours are wrapped, right? What color did you use, for future reference?

Also, did you have shittier century wood before or the ultra shitty plastic handguard? I'm wondering if quality stuff from Ironwood is better at absorbing heat.

>>30674667
1000+ dollar plates usually fall in the NIJ 06 range, which means that they go through very rigorous tests to be certifed. These tests include environmental exposure and plate drop tests, so you could say the extra assurance comes with extra cost.

>>30681722
Why? Because we like going outdoors?

>>30681722
troll harder

>>30681752
I did both sides in OD green. Theres maybe only 2 feet per side. Ive also seen people wrap the shoulder portion, but i did not.

I had the cheap plastic stuff before the wood. Wood is way better at dealing with the heat.

>>30681649
Looks like OD tbqhwyf

>>30669393
get out of here "stalker". literally.

>>30681649
more like mass gay amirite?

>>30682013
kek'd

seriously though MAS grey looks cool but holy shit I cannot understand the hype around it. People pay like twice as much for anything in MAS grey versus multicam or a normal color.

>>30682008

The adventure continues.

>>30673577
it's called a vepr super .308.

>>30680523
I have no problem with east asians. I just want to escape this soon-to-be hellhole germany. From what I have seen the PNW nature in the US and in BC is great