80% edition
old thread >>30619691
no fucking marxists, no irish, no muslims, no .mil
>no moar store front captcha
>>30623349
"Fostech Echo" ATF Letter and info
>Echo still unconfirmed for ATF approval
The ECHO Trigger is a ground breaking, drop-in design that has been approved by the ATF.
The ECHO Trigger allows the shooter to select from 3 different settings:
Safe Mode - Firearm will not fire.
Semi-Automatic Mode - Firearm fires when trigger is pulled.
Echo Mode - Firearm fires when trigger is pulled and also when trigger is released.
The ECHO Trigger is designed with safety being of utmost priority. When the operator is in the ECHO Mode and depresses the trigger one round is fired. The operator can move the selector to the safe or semi-automatic mode and a second round will NOT fire upon release of the trigger.
Features of The ECHO Trigger:
ATF APPROVED
You CANNOT out run the ECHO trigger which means hammer follow is NOT an issue.
You are always on a pull on a magazine change with the ECHO and never a release.
You can return the weapon to safe even if the hammer is forward (only AR-15 trigger with this feature)
Semi-Automatic Mode: 3.5# two stage trigger pull.
ECHO Trigger Mode: 4.0# single stage trigger pull.
Ambidextrous Safety Selector. Drop In Design Patent: US 8,820,211, US 8,667,881
>>30623369
or street sign captchas. for the love of Eugene Stoner.
where were you when isis pulled out all the stops
reposting in new bread
>>30623201
I'm not a goatfag
I made it for msd
I'm a low grade weeb
>>30623244
Thanks for the detailed thoughts. :)
I wasn't sure what benefit 90t was over 51t, I'm not opposed to the 762SD.
I'll be putting it on my 12.5 AR most the time, but it will see use on my 20" occasionally because why not.
Going 7.62 so I can build a .300blk upper at some point and use it on that too.
Rifle looks good with the can on it, what did you do to break it?
>>30623269
Interesting that it's dated 2013
>>30623376
Holy shit that's awesome. and idea on the weighting ratio on the 2stage mode? Also, any word on when/if this will reach production?
CompM4s or Micro T2?
>>30623384
That's just fireworks
>>30623384
i was sit at cafe when jacques rang
"frog is kill"
"no"
and u??
Got my upgrades in
>Before
>>30623392
>Interesting that it's dated 2013
It's for a different design that the Fostech is based on. Fostech hasn't actually gotten a letter yet.
>>30623420
After
Still to come:
>IR laser
>ACOG (Not sure if TA31F or TA33)
>Omega
>>30623420
Let's see it. I can't wait to get my upgrades tomorrow!
All this 80% stuff makes me want that /k/ube lower.
>>30623398
Official word is that initial orders placed in Jan-Apr will face a 6 month lead time. I expect mine in October. Orders being placed today can expect delivery sometime early next year.
However, they've delayed release twice already due to unspecified "tolerance and coating" issues. The ATF letter shows approval for the patent they bought and design inspiration for their trigger, but not the trigger itself.
As of yet the trigger is NOT officially ATF approved.
>>30623431
What barrel length? Welcome to the KMR master race
>>30623369
overtly sexual dubs checked, why is my waifu afraid of this?
>>30623378
at least store fron works, how does 4chan always think i get these wrong?
>>30623392
>I wasn't sure what benefit 90t was over 51t, I'm not opposed to the 762SD.
i think(?) it installs more solidly. the 51t wobble doesnt fucking matter, dont listen to the autists, but i am also autistic enough that it gets on me
>I'll be putting it on my 12.5 AR most the time, but it will see use on my 20" occasionally because why not.
lol, have fun -- can on the end of a 14.5 pin or 16.1 is a fucking bitch. i love 20s, but thats gonna blow
>Going 7.62 so I can build a .300blk upper at some point and use it on that too.
yeah, again, if youre not in it to moderate report, then dont bother with the 5.56 dedicated
>Rifle looks good with the can on it, what did you do to break it?
uhhhh its light striking because i was an idiot on trigger install and need to have a smith remove the trigger pin, probably by destroying the pin itself -- not a big monetary cost, but risky / scary since its on the NFA registry and it hurts my pride
>>30623349
80 fags btfo
https://youtu.be/mmlM15hpErA
>>30623454
11.5" BCM CHF
>>30623376
that's the old letter, it doesn't apply to the echo because of the changes made to it when they bought the idea from the guy that letter is addressed to.
as it stands, the echo is not ATF approved and it uses a 2nd sear surface which the atf supposedly will not allow anymore. highly likely this trigger will die at the ATF
>>30623473
I'm 11.5" BCM LW. Welcome to the true fucking master race.
>>30623489
see >>30623452
Nothing I don't already know. It just sucks if I have to wait all this time to be denied.
>>30623490
dude from last thread with brake out muzzle device and 762sd6 hier
this anon knows
get lightweight or gtfo /arg/
>>30623490
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Help me choose a lower.
I have the option between Lauer Custom Weaponry, Aero Precision and Franklin Armory.
I'm leaning towards the Aero right now.
>>30623468
Ah, so it's not a huge deal but since I don't already have mounts there's no reason to avoid it.
I Think it'll /look/ pretty good on the 20", but usability will be silly.
Mostly doing it for noise suppression, so I might get a 5.56 can and then later build a .300blk upper with a suppressor, we'll see.
Wut
That sucks man.
My pistol light strikes sometimes because I removed a hammer spring leg, but that's an ultra easy fix.
>>30623502
i meant to post it to that other guy, also i didn't even see your post cuz i was too busy replying as soon as i saw yours. my b
>>30623490
>Welcome to the true fucking master race.
Waiting for ACOG, IR laser and Omega to get in so I can finally go full master race
>>30623510
>get lightweight or gtfo /arg/
Agreed.
>>30623516
>"BCM" and "Keymod" both have M's in them
>"Master Race" isn't lined up properly
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30623520
Just get the Aero
>>30623469
Every time I watch one of his videos I find myself really agreeing with 80% of what he says, even if I don't like how he says it
>>30623469
I saw that yesterday. I was going to reply but then I decided I just don't really care. But actually, its really EASY. I've done 3 now and not one of them has had a single malfunction in a total combined 3000ish rounds.
Now I do have some machining experience, but I did these without a milling machine.
>>30623529
is 8lbs lightweight?
What's the best way to support upper in vise for for forward assist install?
>>30623546
7lbs or lighter
I mean, we can all agree M16A1 came on the scene to be light as shit
AR15 should remain as light as practical
I'm not against everyone mounting lights, and mil mounting PEQ (not saying to ban for civ, but we can't fucking afford them) ... and red dots are the shit ... but enough is enough already
What's the best way to support upper in vise for forward assist install?
>>30623490
nah breh nah
>>30623531
It's okay maybe the next flavor of the month rail will line up better
Will I run the risk of failure to feed running a 16" barrel (mid-length) on a lower with a rifle stock?
I can imagine the higher gas velocity pushing the ostensibly lighter rifle length buffer at too high a velocity for the magazine to get the round ready but I'm not sure if that's likely to actually happen.
>>30623537
yfw he said "who anodized it" when someone said they did their own at home
he's really fucking dumb. anodization is literally just aluminum oxide accelerated plus hexagonal pores created in the surface of the metal so it can hold a dye or paint. if you leave aluminum out to oxidize it will naturally form a protective oxide layer. it won't be as strong as a hardcoat anodize but it's still fine. its like he's never seen a type III hardcoat anodized 80% lower before in his entire life. the only exposed aluminum is the FCG pocket, trigger and selector holes. easy to alumina-black over or just let it sit in the white because it will oxidize and harden on its own
tl;dr james is a dipshit
Why is it so beautiful?
>>30623546
I believe we're talking about barrel profile.
>>30623576
I just held it still but an upper vice block might work lol
>>30623610
lightweight is best profile
>>30623603
7/10
>>30623561
Tape vise, tape upper, use something like the DPMS upper block to protect bottom of upper, clamp in vise, use non-marring vise jaws (a piece of thin plywood or firring strip works), don't fucking horse on it.
>>30623590
Plus most people just get them with the exterior already anodized, and then coat the pocket/pinholes with duracoat, gunkote, alumahyde, or rattlecan.
thanks whoever it was in the ts who recommended shiner it was on sale today so i bought a variety pack its definitely worth it
Did u guys know u charge an ar-15 with the front takedown pin?
>>30623573
Light rifles kick and rise more.
Light rifles are great for carrying, but bad for shooting.
Not everyone carries their rifle 5+ hours a day. Not everyone needs a light rifle.
>>30623629
Did you buy the lower?
>>30623603
>>30623529
>>30623490
>>30623454
>>30623431
>>30623407
>>30623349
Why are your guns covered in little dicks?
>>30623642
my rifle is 6.75 pounds (I have a sopmod)
flat shootin baby
>>30623636
>Shiner
>good
Thats really gay bro, you better be wearing a dress
>>30623655
Because who doesnt like dicks?
>>30623655
Why, are you jealous of them?
>>30623655
Does your dick look like that?
Is the Atlas compensator any good? I saw some guy had it looked pretty good.
>>30623655
Is yours not?
>>30623647
not yet, tomorrow definitely
>>30623659
yeah muzzle brakes and non-carbine-gas guns are wondrous things, but all else being equal it will rise more than a heavier rifle.
If you had to buy a BCM KMR or a Geissele MK8 (15" guard for a 20" barrel, if that matters), which would you pick?
Sounds like the Geissele is sturdier, but the KMR is lighter. Some people on forums mentioned that the KMR can get dented and dinged whereas the Geiselle wouldn't.
I don't have a gas block yet so the free one with Geisselle MK8 makes the price difference not such an issue.
>>30623633
Or just hold it on a table and tap gently, use a slave pin
Anyone here have uppers in calibers other than 5.56?
>>30623699
KMR because the MK8 is fucking gay
>Some people on forums mentioned that the KMR can get dented and dinged
Meme from 1st gen magnesium ones repeated forever
>>30623705
Building a .50beo one for shitposting but aside from .308 AR10s there really isnt anything that tickles my fancy
>>30623699
KMR feels better to me. I like skinny rails, and the mk8 has kinda crappy corners on it and is pretty fat.
KMR is made of a magnesium alloy. It's not very durable, but is super light. The KMR-A is aluminum and is significantly more durable for only about an ounce and a half more weight.
>>30623704
He wanted best way, not "good enough" way.
But yeah, that's good enough.
>>30623685
nice
>>30623693
what muzzle brake?
>>30623705
.204 ruger
6mm AR (6x45)
6.5gren
.300blk
Also thinking about building a .17-223 since .177 bullets are so fucking cheap and I reload.
>>30623718
>has "flat shooting" gun
>doesn't have a brake
So you either are a liar or you have a brake.
Or you have no concept of what a flat shooting gun is.
post weights
>7.3lb unloaded
>8.1 loaded
>>30623714
Totally missed that part haha
>>30623730
Nah bro, it's pretty flat
>>30623671
Tell me the horrors of PTAC, /arg/. My friend wants me to build a rifle for him on a budget.
>>30623740
Idk my AR's weight yet but my AK is 9.1 lbs loaded.
My AR feels around 7-ish.
>>30623682
REEE come in guys you can adjust this one too
>>30623141
I'll take it.
>>30623376
I have a bad feeling they are stalling for an ATF letter they wont get.
>>30623730
>yfw "flat shooting" refers to trajectory, not recoil
.270 Winchester is flat shooting anon
Pistol
>6.1 unloaded
>6.9 loaded
>>30623762
>9.1
I'm not sure if it boost my manlet levels for thinging that's awful heavy (not for an AK, just in general)
My ar's have spoiled me
>>30623764
Looks fucking weird
>>30623752
I dont remember, have you posted boipussi yet?
>>30623642
>Light rifles kick and rise more.
Bruh, ever shot an A1? Shit will make you cream your drawers.
>>30623793
I guess you are right don't know why they put that titanium sleeve on it but it makes it lighter apparently. I just thought it was nice cause you direct the gas different ways
>>30623793
>piston gun
>flashlight
>red dot
>side mount
>soup can of a muzzle device
>heavy ass magazines
Definitely naturally heavier than AR's. That said I use it for a lot of hunting and don't really notice the weight.
Ta31 came in the mail and I'm done changing these rifles for the time being. Probably get a light eventually. R8 em
>>30623713
>Meme from 1st gen magnesium ones repeated forever
>>30623714
>KMR is made of a magnesium alloy. It's not very durable, but is super light. The KMR-A is aluminum
OK, glad to know where the rumor comes from. Ordered it!
So close to completion it's scary. Next up is just a gas block and a buffer tube. Of course, mags+ammo+BUIS too.
>>30623812
yes.
a1 kicks more than a4.
>>30623819
You can do that with a normal brake, just time it differently with a crush washer/ peel washer/ spacers
>>30623831
I'm pretty sure I'm just a manlet, kek.
Doesn't the AK also have a steel receiver?
>>30623838
shoulda got this
>>30623812
Does mine have MSD approval?
>>30623812
>>30623840
it depends on gas, i can make a 10lb ar kick harder than a 7lb ar.
>>30623858
What's that?
How to get rid of sprong sound?
>>30623873
Yes, and I can make a 7lb AR kick very lightly.
BUT. All else being equal (rifle gas vs. rifle gas, good brake vs. good brake) the heavier rifle will kick less.
Hence the "all else being equal" line.
>>30623857
Stamped steel, but yeah. The fact that its stamped instead of milled or forged reduces weight somewhat. I'm actually much more of an AK guy, don't know if that's blasphemy here.
And you want to talk manlets? 5'11" and 140 lbs. My metabolism is too damn fast that I need 2500 calories a day or I lose weight.
>>30623885
grease
in for the way of the future
>>30623885
How much effort or money are you willing to throw at it?
>lotsa effort, little to no money
Hone the buffer tube
>little effort, lotsa money
JP silent captured spring system
>>30623895
ok, but this is the first time you said all things being equal.
you can't retroactively apply that to your posts
>>30623929
No it's not.
>>30623693
>>30623895
my rifle is pretty soft, it has mid/rifle gas system in it
>>30623885
Lithium grease in buffer tube and on spring
Supposedly flat wire springs help
And/ or hone the tube
Also JP silent captured spring for ~$140
>>30623897
Not blasphemy as long as you like ar's too, I think.
>5'11", 140lb
We're both manlets I guess, but I'm the manlet-er manlet.
try 5'9" (maybe 10"?) and 130lb
>>30623634
i explained it to him and he deleted my post lol, james is a bitch
>>30623834
clean and tasteful/10
>>30623349
>80% edition
Reposting from last thread since it died. Going to get started on these this weekend.
>>30623937
well, my bad.
>>30623840
Okay. And my A1 kicks significantly less than my middy which weighs 3 pounds more.
>>30623633
Thanks, got it in.
Any tips on installing a scope? PA 1-6x, first scope, I've only used rd before. I also have the PA extended mount if that matters
>>30624084
Those aren't even remotely comparable though.
>>30623860
Maybe when you can shoot it. :^
>>30624027
I recommend the arisaka mount m8, real low pro
>>30624100
Put mount on rifle, get rifle as close to level as you can, clamp rifle to something, install scope in mount.
Ideally you have a level across a pic rail on the rifle, and another on the elevation cap so you can verify they're still level as you tighten them.
>>30624102
>Light rifles kick and rise more.
>This light rifle kicks and rises less than this heavier rifle.
I don't know what to tell you, senpaitachi.
>>30624111
no qd tho
>>30624120
Let me refer you to
>>30623693
>>30623705
300blk
>>30624132
Aight, maybe include that in your original post next time to avoid making sweeping generalizations.
>>30624114
How do I determine relief?
>>30624126
do you even high speed low drag
>>30624163
>two levers
too slow
>>30624163
nothin high speed about unscrewing a mount
>>30624175
kek
>>30624188
why qd light tho? in case it asplodes?
>>30624162
By playing with it.
A cheater's method is to set it at lowest magnification, find your ideal eye relief, and move it two slots back. That should be about right for both low and high magnification. Check it anyway though.
>>30624105
:c working on it
2 rd burst trigger when?
>>30624188
Why is your sight in the middle of your receiver?
>>30624205
might have to drop the weight while opr8ing. tbht i shoot with it off and dont want to unscrew it every time
>>30624219
faster target acquisition
>>30624219
>2rd burst trigger when?
About the time 2rd burst becomes useful.
So never.
>>30624228
fair enough
>>30624219
At least get a regular FCG to hold you over nig.
>>30623762
>9.1 lb ak
you're doing something very wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8JjXZU-w4Q
>>30624233
>2 round burst isn't useful
>>30624264
>any round burst
>useful
>>30624244
Some nice anon is sending one too me
>"you might not want to open it at work"
>>30624248
With 30-rounds of 5.56 and a shit ton of stuff? I mean I can re-weigh but seems pretty reasonable for a loaded 74.
>>30624264
Real operators use semi, even in CQB.
>>30624288
don't get too excited m8 just used lots of shredded paper to pack it that will get literally everywhere.
>>30624264
with a nice trigger FA and burst is useless.
>>30624288
a loaded AR-15 magazine is 1 pound, i'm going to assume it's way more for an AK though...
but my 5.56 AK (unloaded) is over a pound lighter than my basic bitch carbine unloaded
>>30623349
In
So was this a dirty Muslim thing that happened in France?
>>30624392
oh look, its your rail again.
>>30624314
Would that nice trigger have to be single stage??
>>30624416
the worst part is, it's fucking ugly as shit.
love you lizurd but that rail is hideous.
>>30624427
reported for stolen property
>>30624416
You didn't answer my question
>>30624431
N-no it's not!!1!
>>30624436
It's adopted....
>>30624392
At least get a stripped upper to show some progress
>>30623858
So, google reverse image search isn't giving any results. I'm just going to assume this is bogus and the KMR is fine.
>>30623585
>re-asking
>>30624466
now buy a stolen optic
>>30623376
a ghetto trigger job is now cool and tactical
neat
>>30624466
My upper is my next buy and it's like $250. I've only had the rail a week and a day
>>30624480
I reported you to the Atf
>>30624289
>operators
>>30624301
Okay, I was telling the receiving lady at work if a package comes in under a funny name that doesn't match a work order that its just a friend out west playing a joke on me; I was expecting a dead rabbit or dildos or something lol
>>30624314
Suppressing fire and double taps would be unmatched. If you're hog hunting a couple .223 down range in a single burst of recoil would be nice.
>>30624389
Just looked at my specs sheet and I was thinking of my M1, sorry man. Re-weighed and AK is 4.8 lbs unloaded and 5.8 lbs loaded if the scale is on. I'll check at work tomorrow for certain, I'll have my AK with me for the inevitable chimp out anyway.
>>30623585
>>30624473
i shot my 16 mid with a rifle stock and had no problems. will be doing it again this weekend
>>30624487
did you get a bgc for that assault rail?
>>30624436
I reported him to the feds.
>>30624466
>>30624427
Probably
>pic related
>>30624392
go get run over by a truck you useless cunt
>>30624497
>suppressing fire
that's not the civilian rifleman's job. due to a lack of logistics you'd have to rely on suppression through accuracy.
>>30624512
oh boy not the mainframe
>>30624503
Nope I imported it I'll-eaglly
fitting
>>30624503
He prefers to call it an assault paper weight.
>>30624473
its a kac urx4. interesting idea about being one piece but im not crazy about the attachment system
>>30624487
Really....feels like you've been spamming that rail forever.
>>30624541
thats a lot of salt
>>30624557
lowers are illegal in ca, he cant finish it
>>30623349
Block 2 clone incoming
>>30624557
Yehp, one week
>>30624541
Why do you have that?
>>30624564
Wrong. But bring a pretentious cunt isn't illegal, you'd fit right in :^)
>>30624568
kek how much did you pay
>>30624572
>implying i would ever voluntarily go to ca for any reason
no thank you
>>30624573
310 shekels
come on man
>did i miss anything important
>>30624572
are you stupid
>>30624622
Top kek
>>30624624
I don't understand why you have it
>>30624622
just a terrorist attack
>>30624590
With rocks like that I would never leave my cave
>>30624622
kek it worked
>>30624624
What kind of a question is that?
>californian
>under 30
>married
>has more than 2 pets
>bought an ALG rail
Of course he's stupid
>>30624635
it's a picture from the internet
you don't have to own something to post it
>>30624642
I do have some nice rocks
>>30624648
Stay upset my friend
>>30624652
Why post it?
>>30624441
>N-no it's not!!1!
it is but, it's still nicer than dan's pile of shit
>>30624644
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>>30624666
>marine salt
>marine sight
>>30624685
round 2 coming up
>>30624674
What's wrong with his stuff besides the owner
>>30624688
.......Ya get it?
>>30624688
People from california are not the brightest.
>>30624691
kek. rob is getting steady roasted lately
>>30624703
dubs?
yes
>>30624693
>what's wrong with midwest industries
>>30624691
Why, I haven't broken any rules
The mods have been good the last couple months
>>30624725
Clearly you broke rule 1
>>30624725
Off topic and no the mods have been fucking incompetent
Source: I literally ban evaded like 8+ times and they did nothing
>>30624719
???
>>30624691
Let's get MSD banned
>>30623349
>%80
%100 shit desu
>>30624497
>>operators
24:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhZuuvQ9q7w
>>30624520
Living close to Cleveland makes it seem sooner than I hoped
But double taps and cool factor win it for me. In a defensive situation I can pop two and be done. It's just having options man
>>30624693
What kind of beast?
>>30624745
>???
read the filename
>>30624503
>i shot my 16 mid with a rifle stock and had no problems. will be doing it again this weekend
Sweet. Thank you for the feedback.
>>30624549
http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=KM30742
>The IBN system allows the rail itself to act as the barrel nut when torqued onto the rifle, completely eliminating the need for a separate steel barrel nut.
wut
Pretty cool. Though I think I'm okay sticking with the tried and true KMR.
Muzzle brake or flash hider for 14.5 pin and weld job?
>>30624751
Black and white tegu. Pretty gnarly little bastards, wife and I want one.
>>30624756
Anon pls I'm exhausted and really need you to spell it out for me tonight.
>>30624767
>14.5 pin and weld job
don't
>>30624785
Niggha what
>>30624780
it's a clamp on rail, the barrel nut is knurled for epoxy to help it stay put and shit. clamp on anything is garbage.
>>30624785
Why did you start tripping?
>>30624796
Oh okay
>>30624762
>>30624796
>clamp on anything is garbage.
>>30624751
>ohio-bro
it's neat, but to me not 300-400$ neat. Ideally the NFA wouldn't exist and you could chose burst or semi but here we are
>>30624785
literally every post I've seen from you has been wrong and retarded
>>30624719
>>30624756
it's not a common problem
>>30624785
I want those fucking pants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZF_EjgMSmw
Video made me cry.
>>30624795
You get no relative benefit.
>>30624799
MSD told me to, why are you anon
>>30624828
You're a very hateful person
>>30624780
My hexmags can hold thirty of them boom flyers
>>30624855
;_;
>>30624845
I'm not you retard. You should stop.
>>30624828
Eh, I get a few good ones in there, I just like shitposting
>>30624838
East German stricktarn
>>30624855
>boom flyers
I laughed
Well! The first purchase is made.
...oh god, I have so many parts left to order. I'm gonna die of DVT before they all get here. ;_;
>>30624845
16-14.5=1.5
Thats 1.5 inches shorter and still legal
It does offer benefits
>>30624884
Is ok anon.
>>30624888
I'll take your trips and think about it
I don't really care desu
>>30624897
Are you the trip with the ALG handguard? I'm looking at the 12" V2 as a possible.
>>30624719
you dont have to glue them tho I never have.
TS?
I'm gonna shitpost in the shower a bit but I'm buzzed so dis gun b gud
>>30623349
What stripped lower should I get for my first build? Budget will be around $1500 for the rifle and $2500 total for everything from some ammo, tools, optics, accessories
>>30624921
V3 or kys
>>30624921
Don't buy alg it's trash tier
>>30624928
Rainier Arms
>>30624838
>Video made me cry.
:( sad
i am the anon from before, you know who i am btw
>>30624928
anderson
>>30624921
Yes I am. I like it very much and a lot of people here dislike the way it looks but I enjoy it. Feels very sturdy
Mine is 15"
>>30624938
Shut the fuck up
Acog or mk4?
>>30624944
no thanks
>>30624945
Both are good picks
>>30624923
whether you have or haven't is irrelevant. it's a stupid system when there are better ways of doing it that have already been tried and true.
>>30624950
That's an order
Building babby's first AR15. Is it a bad idea to build an M16a4 clone as my first? It seems like everyone says to build a 16" rifle instead, seeing as how it's handier and can be used for HD.
>>30624961
I don't take orders from lower class citizens
>>30624884
Going all out. Look at you go. I'm going to get my two were I want them then buy another lower in about a month
>>30624838
fucking savage, makes me angry more then it makes me sad
>>30624849
machine that 80% within the next decade and I'll be nicer
>>30624944
nigger, you haven't even used it yet
>>30624951
it's light weight and simple
>>30624945
20-Round Master Race
baltimore happening
#BaltimoreShooting UPDATE: One suspect shot. Active situation-no medics allowed near. Possible 2nd suspect is at large. "High-powered rifle"
pray this isnt an AR15 boys
>>30624965
Nothing wrong with A4 as first. 16" is more practical though.
>tfw New Frontier has had this shit on backorder status for like six months now, and I completed my 9mm AR build months ago besides this fucking part
It hurts to live ;_;
>>30624838
Video makes me red in the face fucking angry
Soon.
Those vermin won't have people or buildings to hide behind
>>30624965
Nah, 20" barrel is really the way to go if you don't like shitty performance. Whatever makes you happy. Plus the A4 is modular enough if you decide to change it up later but clones are cool as fuck.
>>30624988
>>30624988
https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
>>30624988
niggers use aks
>>30624951
>its different so its stupid
>>30624988
wtf? There's a shooting in baltimore now? Why haven't I heard more about this yet?
>>30624979
twenty rounds you say
>>30624812
Whoa, nice. A little rich for my blood, but super sleek looking.
Would you recommend the KAC micro sights? I have never used a sight like that so I was hesitant to spring for them.
>>30625017
its happening right now, shots fired at police
>>30624944
Ok. Thanks for the input.
>>30624938
>Don't buy alg it's trash tier
Please explain.
>>30624975
>Going all out. Look at you go. I'm going to get my two were I want them then buy another lower in about a month
Choo-choo, motherfucker. I've been lurking (and gently trolling) /arg/ for about a month on and off, ever since I decided I was offended enough at our president to build/buy an AR. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I have a broadband internet connection and a decent paying job. the next week is gonna see some economy stimulation from me, that's fo sho.
>>30624973
I'd tell you to go to hell but you literally work with shit and have 3 uggo dogs you couldn't pay a nigger to take so you're already there
>>30624976
I'd argue that I'm not the one holding up getting it done. I bought it and a buddy at work said he would do it right away and has been flakey and I keep reserving doing it myself in hope he will follow through
>>30625005
Hey anon was talking shit did you see?
>>30624973
whew lawd, pb confirmed for delusional elitist
>>30624988
>please be a Winchester Model 60 in 7mm 08
>>30625017
>>30625000
what the fuck is a LRBHO? I have a slick side fetish.
>>30625028
Where at?
Anon always talks shit
>>30625012
>shitty performance
>16"
Turn your trip off and don't turn it back on until you know what the fuck you are talking about.
>>30625032
pb is literally a shit stirrer, he is lower class
>>30625025
Well give us the low down then man. Any scanners? Casualties?
>>30625028
You underestimate the money in shit.
>>30625032
no he's just from california
>>30625051
haha, you'd think that would make him more humble. dude lives with his parents and works at a shit plant.
>>30624838
>just watched the video
It's time for a race war but not with the blacks.
>>30625026
He said its trash because he doesn't like it. They are good handguards
>>30625047
Somewhere above
>>30625055
I also overestimate your intelligence :^
>>30625005
skd tac has a clip of it on their instagram.
its genuinely awful.
>>30625043
last round bolt hold open
>>30625028
You have to machine the lower yourself. You can't have someone else do it for you.
>>30625043
last round bolt hold-open.
Something that most non-dedicated 9mm AR's don't have.
>>30625043
Last-round bolt hold-open.
I need this shit because my current setup doesn't have it and my bolt is tearing up my magazines and followers.
>>30624838
>>30624976
>>30625005
I never thought there might be a race war in my lifetime but considering all this radical islam and polarization between whites and blacks to say its a possibility would be an understatement.
>>30625063
I'm moving out soon, don't worry.
>>30625018
That rifle should've been aborted
>>30625048
20" is better ballistically than 16" in an already light caliber. That's a fact.
>>30625043
>lrbho
It literally says what lrbho is in the pic
>>30625074
I know, I'm "buying" the mill and pressing start you silly goose
>>30625000
I'm glad I gave up on an ar9.
>>30625054
1 suspect down
looks like its over, just happened so hasnt been a press release yet
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/police-involved-in-shooting-in-west-baltimore/40716922
>>30623730
the fuck are you on about
>>30624992
Is the full-length stock and 4" barrel difference a big deal? If it's good enough for the Army and MUHREENS when clearing rooms, it's good enough for me.
I could always use my pistol for HD if it's that bad.
>>30625012
I can't decide between having an M16A4 clone or a standard BCM 16" upper with tan furniture. I think the M16A4 is much more sexier, but I feel like it's less practical.
>>30625092
Whats wrong with the CSR? Oh your a barrel length fudd.
From 20 to 16.5" you give up just shy of 100fps
OH LAWD NO, END O THE WORLD
http://rifleshooter.com/2014/12/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-barrel-length-versus-velocity-28-to-16-5/
>>30625094
I ain't got time to read.
>>30625076
>>30625075
>>30625072
Thanks. Also, odd.
>>30625067
>He said its trash because he doesn't like it. They are good handguards
I figured as much, but I like to challenge folks to defend the points they make.
Also, HELP, FUCK, TOO MANY LOWER PARTS KITS. Okay, it seems like the easiers question to ak here is, "Is there any seller of LPK's to AVOID?"
>>30625111
some sources say multiple police shot on scene, no confirmed reports yet
>>30625126
Any big brand LPK is fine. I have a PSA moe LPK and it's nice
>>30625092
>20" is better ballistically than 16" in an already light caliber.
If you are shooting at soft targets over 150 yds away, yes it will have marginally better performance. 16" is more than adequate for any reasonable shooting scenario a person may find themselves in.
>>30625126
The trigger packaged with DPMS lpk's is one of the worst.
If you plan on an aftermarket trigger, PSA and Rainier both sell lpk's minus the trigger at a discount, so you don't end up like me with half a dozen milspec triggers sitting in a sack in your parts box.
>>30625067
I cant find it, I'm on assumption that anon is always talking shit.
>>30625068
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE THAT.
>>30625081
Not all of them, just ANYONE who has EVER listened to ANY cleric considered radical, for a start.
>>30625136
Fucking day keeps getting worse
>>30625119
>Is the full-length stock and 4" barrel difference a big deal?
I think it is but some don't. A shorter overall length makes maneuvering in close quarters a little bit easier.
>>30625081
It's nothing new. where islam goes, so does 3rd world life, with third world life comes war. the black and white stuff is blown a bit out of proportion I think.
>>30625092
dues to cartridges like mk26 and mk318 a short barrel can perform the same as a 20" barrel shooting ss109
>>30625165
>bought a RRA LPK with RRA single stage trigger
>what I got was without a doubt the worst trigger I have ever had the displeasure of using
>its a notched trigger with more weight, creep and grit than I've seen even in the army
>it would go in the trash if I literally had even a single trigger to replace it with
Fucking crap, never buy an RRA single stage trigger...
>>30625141
Ok. Thanks.
>>30625165
>The trigger packaged with DPMS lpk's is one of the worst.
Nnnnoted. I'm sure an aftermarket trigger will happen, but I think I want to stick with mil-spec unmodified for a short while, to suss out the sensation, and Identify what my needs are in changing it out.
>>30625126
>"Is there any seller of LPK's to AVOID?"
Avoid PSA LPK. I had to modify the bolt catch, safety lever, and sear to get my firearm functioning properly.
>>30625194
ss109 is an atrocity cartridge that doesn't even deserve to exist. Using it to level the field between a 20" and 16" barrel is a nonstarter, because both lengths are capable of using ammunition that is worth a crap.
>>30625219
uh.. nice VFG
>>30625219
whta light is that
why doesn't a company make a lpk without a shit trigger?
>>30625224
It's not a "pistol" it's a "firearm" so it's legal.
>>30625228
Surefire M951
How do I attach a muzzle brake correctly? Whenever I twist it the top port doesn't seem to be upright when snug.
>>30625236
OAL is greater than 26" you dub
http://johnpierceesq.com/can-you-add-a-vertical-fore-grip-to-an-ar-pistol/
>>30625237
Several companies make LPKs without triggers, which is really equally good.
>>30625247
Using a crush washer?
>>30625251
Thats odd
>>30625167
sure but radical islam is so hot right now
>>30625194
we havent seen terrorism this frequent since the 70's, and the kill counts are much higher now
>>30625260
Yeah, the NFA was written by people who have little to no understanding of firearms.
>>30624642
is it just me or does the kac sight glare if the sun is behind you? i was thinking of painting the ring flat black to stop this.
also rate, plz no bully
>adding aimpoint soonish
>maybe a peq 15
>wish i knew about pinned 14.5 barrels when i bought the barrel
>wish i knew kac rail covers wouldnt fit troy rails
>>30624838
It honestly makes me sad that we live in a world filled with so much hate.
>>30625108
But anon what about a Colt 633
>>30625119
Do an A4. Absolutely nothing impractical about it and if you decide you want something different its easy to modify. Do a clone and get a different upper if you're unhappy.
>>30625122
lol my go-to rifle is my 16" AK in 5.56, but 20" is optimal for performance. Arguably, 24" shares similar ballistics and 18" doesn't sacrifice too much velocity.
>>30625158
>yes it will have better performance
Yeah, I know that. 20" is objectively better for the cartridge's optimization, but sure, having a compact firearm better suits most people's needs
>>30625194
You can get an equally improved performance out of longer barrels too
>>30625261
one could even say
its the bomb
>>30625236
see dan this is that shit im talking about. you're fucking retarded. you are literally an 18 year old parrot who doesn't actually understand anything.
Looking to buy a reliable AR. Don't want to build my own because I don't have the time or knowledge to do so.
What is the best all around pre built AR?
>>30625313
>>30625319
Here you go
>>30625328
M&P 15 or colt if you want to spend more for colt
>>30625260
Hey Dan you find your way outta pol?
>>30625328
>don't have the time or knowledge
20 minutes and a youtube video will fix that.
You have internet obviously, do you have 20 minutes? I would assume so since you're on 4chan.
>>30625313
Whats wrong with that statement?
Like something triggered you so hard you had to screencap it
>>30625328
probably a kac
>>30625328
What's your budget / purpose?
Daniel Defense, LMT, LWRC, BCM, and Noveske all made gucci offerings.
>>30625346
>the AR market is flooded
it means you don't fucking understand what that statement means. which is exactly what i was saying. you're a fucking retarded kid.
>>30623636
>>30625024
might be long gone, but yes (but no for 300 bucks)
>>30625383
Do you have autism?
Do you think I was referring to the actual product line up of the AR market being flooded with products?
Or the AR market being flooded with people trying to buy ARs, which is what any sane individual would take from it.
And yes, Virgin pussy is nice. I know its hard to believe people "do that"
>>30625287
The sight I have is very worn so it would shine if the sun hits it. Painting it black sounds like an idea thanks.
>>30625383
your screencaps are a lot more "cringe" than anything Dan has posted
>>30625383
Oh oh find the screenshot from a few threads ago where he talks about not being 21 but still drinking and fucking sorority girls
Got it
>>30625428
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU FROM?
DO UNDERAGE NOT DRINK WHERE YOU ARE? OR HAVE SEX?
people are fucking at 14 now ffs
>>30625421
>which is what any sane individual would take from it.
uh, no
>>30625447
They do but I don't and didn't fuck wife until married bch.
WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION
kek
>>30625371
Under $2,000. I would prefer a shorter barrel for maneuverability but overall just general defense.
>>30625473
Daniel defense
>>30625469
that hilarious reply tho.
"MI Keymod Gen2"
loooool
>>30625473
BCM
DD has shit furniture
>>30625343
I have heard horror stories where people fuck their shit up and the lower because useless, I would rather spend a little more and get a quality item.
>>30625494
BCM furniture is worse.
>>30625469
Holy shit.
An /arg/ poster saying something irrational because of aesthetics and then admitting it was purely because of memes. What a sight
How does actually having autism feel?
>>30625447
>degenerate
>>30625502
You have to be literally retarded to fuck up a lower.
>>30625512
you're 18
you are a cringe factory.
>>30625494
I don't know if my autism is getting worse but I see nothing but furniture... I don't see any actual rifles.
> /k/ newfag who presumes furniture is in reference to accessories?
>>30625537
stock and grip
>>30625527
You have autism.
Kill yourself, like for real, not memes.
Does Dan own a gun? I really want to know.
>>30625480
Thanks senpai
>75% of ARG is in the top right corner of pic related
>>30625554
>tfw bottom right
>>30625554
>>30625554
fukken saved
>>30625554
>tfw the 25%
>>30625548
>>30625613
BCM is over rated and overpriced. Get Anderson everything, quality will not be any lesser.
>>30625583
>be dan
>get roasted
SHUT IT DOWN, NEW THREAD!
kek
>>30624051
I only have a drill press. Do you think I should take my chances with an 80%?
>>30625700
just do it