AR Thread / AR General /arg/

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>>30615289
In for I'll be patient and get the good shit the first round

Where can I find an FDE RIS II 12 inch ?

>>30615326
Get a job

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>>30615289
6.8 SPC is the .40 S&W of AR15's

>5.56 is too small and weak (9mm)
>but .308 is too big and heavy (.45)
>6.5 Grendel does a better job (10mm)
>was super popular but died off
>is okay at best

But I still want one ;-;

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>>30615326

In for I posted all the good pictures of my rifle already. Have one with the old upper.

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>>30615336
eBay for 1.5k

>>30615347
Kill yourself

>>30615355
That looks good dude. I'll be there sometime soon

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>mfw my blisters are almost all gone already
>>30615354
If you've already got a rifle that works, there's no reason not to do it.
Or get a 25-45 sharps upper.

>>30615354
Technically .458 SOCOM would be the .45 of AR-15s, since a .308 is AR-10 territory.

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>>30615355
Also, it came standard anodized black right?

>>30615355
What length handguard???

>>30615399

The Gibbz? Yea it's anodized.

>>30615417
Think its 13-ish. It came with the upper and I don't really remember.

>>30615399
Are you going to do anything besides post shit memes and your paper weight?

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>>30615396
I have nothing in the works beyond my current build, I'm just day dreaming about a new upper already.

>>30615398
eh that's kinda gay
.308 = .45

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>>30615434
Thanks m8.

It's not compatible w/ anti rotation tabs huh?

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>>30615444
Depends, you gonna keep bitching?

>>30615460
Is that a blem?

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>>30615450

most wouldn't fit, but the style used on my old upper would probably work without issue from the looks of it.

Also, I feel like I shouldn't like that rifle, but...

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>>30615478
Yep. It's a "blem"
I really like that the color is kinda off too

>>30615504
G2K, thanks again

>>30615517
Are you going to buy a bcm upper without a handguard? It be cool if did

>>30615445
Except .45 is bigger than it needs to be for no apparent reason other than mental penile compensation of fudds, and .458 is the same exact thing except in the AR world (a big slow bullet with low magazine capacity.)

.308 is like the .357 mag of rifles. When an AR guy is like, "eh that's nice but I want something more POWERFUL," he grabs a .308, even though there are other options that are more powerful still. The same goes with a guy who has a handgun and he's like "yeah, I like this 10mm, but it needs more POWER. Fuck capacity."

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>>30615559
no
your analogy is shitty get off my board

>>30615550
I hadn't considered that tbhfam

>>30615574
>"your board"
>yfw I've been on 4chan since the days of the board links being on the side
>yfw been on /k/ almost since it was a thing
On the contrary, ugly vulva, gtfo MY board.

>>30615597
Rekt

>>30615595
Damn dude you gonna take that from him?

>>30615574
.45 worshipper detected

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>>30615606
>replied to myself

>>30615597
gay kys
>>30615606
yeah, pretty much
>>30615608
lol don't even own one

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>>30615619

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>>30615619
topkek

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>>30615638
>>30615647
SHUTUP

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>>30615619
This is a serious question are you autistic?

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>>30615633
No, I will not kms, because if I did that there would be no one left to contest the AIDS that you are spreading here.
>tfw I am the guardian of the realm

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>>30615706
You sure showed me damn

>>30615752
Yeah, I'm not that skilled or interested in distributing wicked burns, but the fact remains that you are wrong, so for the time being I will not inflict death upon myself.

>>30615289
I don't care how many times you post pictures of your AR's, I still get super jealous every time I see them.

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There is a gun show coming to Houston in 3 weeks and I've been saving to buy an AR-15.

I read on /k/ that AR-15's are like computers in that you can build your own and save money that way.

Should I build my own rifle, or just buy one for my first rifle? I'd like an SSAR-15 stock and rails to mount a flashlight + foregrip. Pic related are the specials going on at my local gun store.

>>30615839
>"hot new model"
>literally the same old basic bitch shit that walmart sold to normies for a decade after the AWB expired
>not even a competitive price
If you want something like that, even just to start on, buy the same damn thing off PSA and save $100-$200 dollars.

I still recommend building though, that's what I did. The satisfaction of a properly functioning home build is a feeling few know.

>>30615877
Don't forget that it has a heavy barrel.

...ew

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>2 more days before i can zero this scope
fuck me right?
also:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0z55Rq9Bqdr

>>30615911
What's wrong with a heavy barrel?

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>>30615920
>made a vocaroo
neat!
I didn't actually expect anyone to make their own.

I just think they're kind of silly on a 16" gun.
I'm also biased because my dad's 16" M&P15 with glass weighs a good bit more than my 20" rifle.

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>>30615937
>that scope placement
ewwwwww

What's a good, less expensive substitute for a Daniel Defense rail for a Mk.18 build? Can't really justify forking out $445 on a fucking rail.

>>30615997
buy a knights RAS for less than $100 off ebay or something.

>>30616008

Thanks for the suggestion

>>30615937
>I didn't actually expect anyone to make their own.
I'd have made it longer but I only have one inert round and am too much of a bitch too run the risk of an ND while using live ones

>>30615972
lolidk
I think he got it zeroed there and I don't want to move it and have him blame me for zero being off or something.
>>30616030
I used live rounds, but I totally understand that fear.
I guess you don't keep a gun loaded sitting around either?
I keep a mag in both ARs, but nothing in the chamber.

Anyone have experience with the Leupold Mark AR Mod 1 optics? Looking at the 3-9x40 Mil dot model.

>>30615997
Centurion C4

>>30616060
>I guess you don't keep a gun loaded sitting around either?
>I keep a mag in both ARs, but nothing in the chamber.
Nah man, I keep my AR, and 3 loaded mags in my safe which is right next to my bed and takes less than a second to get a good fingerprint read.
I also am still living under my parents authority while waiting to leave for basic training so I have to follow their rules of no loaded firearms in the house, which i'm fine with, their house, their rules. I'm just happy they're fine with myself owning rifles seeing as they're both left wing as fuck

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>dat late eject

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>>30616101
Sounds good.
I'm living with my parents too, but they don't have an issue with a near-loaded firearm.
At least, not enough of an issue to tell me not to do it.
>what my vocaroo is from

>>30616107
How the hell does that happen

>>30616128
That's what I'm trying to figure out
I'm going to take out the ejector and see if it's somehow gunked up or something tomorrow
I'm guessing I want new springs/ a dring or whatever in the extractor.
May as well do it all at once.

>>30615839
Honestly the M&P Sport 2 is a great improvement over the original, not bad at that price point.

>>30615937
That 16" on the bottom is looking not too much shorter than your 20". Maybe I should go with a 20". Literally have bought everything but the buffer tube kit/stock/barrel because I can't decide on the barrel length.

Do you have a fav, having fired all three? I keep telling myself that I'll be able to shoot in competitions if I get a 20, but I know that I don't have the time/motivation to do so.

20" just looks so aesthetic. But If I built one I would have to dedicate the lower to it due to the longer buffer tube...

>>30616155
Shorter gas systems work with a rifle length buffer, I've shot my 20" upper on the carbine lower, and it works the other way around too.
Lots of 3gun people run carbine buffer + mid or rifle gas on an 18" barrel.
Part of the 16" looking almost as long as the 20" is the muzzle devices, the 20 extends about 1" past the muzzle, and on the 16" it extends about 2" past. Some of it is also the angle

Have you considered 18" with rifle gas?
I occasionally consider switching my 20" to that.

>>30616155
You can find 18" barrels with mid length gas on them if you want a happy medium between the two and make it so that lower doesn't have to be dedicated for rifle length gas
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-223-wylde-match-barrels-prod54526.aspx

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>>30615326
Nice. I got their full length 16" rail

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>>30616230
>make it so the lower doesn't have to be dedicated for rifle length gas
literally what are you even talking about, all lowers will work with all uppers provided there is enough gas for the action to function.
>pic related my rifle length upper with a carbine lower I set up for a competition one time

>>30616256
Incorrectly pairing your gas length and buffer tube can lead to short stroking or shortened lifetime for your buffer spring you dumb nigger

So I took out my ejector roll pin
I'm pretty sure when you remove that the ejector is supposed to try to violently remove itself from the bolt, mine seems perfectly content to stay in the bolt without the roll pin in

kek

>>30616288
>worries about "shortening the lifetime" of a <$10 part
>with a rifle gas system of all things
>calling me a dumb nigger
That shit runs fine man, you are literally inventing a problem to justify your autism and/or poorfaggotry.

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>>30616288
Here's another picture of a 20" upper with a carbine lower...oh yeah and it runs perfectly too.

Stay mad.

>>30616314
>>30616332
>guys it works good enough
Therefore doing things the proper way is obsolete.
Lazy shits like you is the issue with this country I swear

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>>30616363
Post your AR or forever hold your saltiness.

If a carbine spring and buffer can stand up to the violence of a carbine gas system on a 16" barrel, there is literally no reason why it wouldn't easily stand up to the relatively light forces placed on it by a 20" rifle length gas upper.

TL:DR you are simply retarded and/or a 10yo up past your bedtime.

>>30616218
I haven't looked into the 18" as much but they do look interesting. I saw a 17.7" on Ballistic Advantage that looked very appealing but 18" might be a more standard and tried-and-true profile.

I have read that the 20" recoil is very low. Does it get so much stronger in the 16" that it would decrease one's enjoyment in firing the gun?

At this point I'm trying to just imagine which one I will be happiest with and not have all the "what ifs" for. Maybe the solution really is to build lots of uppers haha.

Thanks for the info on the buffers being interchangeable; didn't know that!

>>30616230
Good to know, thank you. I have heard really good things about White Oak. I thought Rainier was a good money/reputation deal but White Oak is very similarly priced!

>>30616391

Missouri??

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>>30616435
On buffers-
You can't put a rifle buffer in a carbine tube or the other way around, but most uppers should work on most lowers, you can see the people arguing about it. :p
20" recoil is barely recoil, it feels like a gentle push against your shoulder.
16" recoil is like a more abrupt push, but still nothing bad.

Building more uppers is always fun, just be careful though, having uppers without lowers might prompt you to build more lowers.

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Whats a good cheap 2 point sling for a rifle length ar with a fixed stock? Looking for something on the sides, not on the bottom

>>30616391
You're missing the point, while maybe your AR hasn't had any issues with short stroking, pairing a rifle length gas system with a carbine buffer is known to cause short stroking because of the lower pressure.
Now as anon said >>30616155 he's looking for something that he'd be able to have easily change uppers without any potential issues. And you can find midlengh gas on just about any barrel length available. So an 18" with a midlengh gas system would be a good way to go.
Anon can get anywhere from 14" to 18" barrels very easily with a midlengh gas system, and if he does get a rifle length gas system on a 20" barrel he'll have less of s chance of short stroking it than if he had a carbine buffer

>>30616526
Hi

>>30616526
>he'll have less of s chance of short stroking it than if he had a carbine buffer

I'm the anon who posted about the versatile lower. When pairing a mid-length gas system with a rifle buffer, is it possible to get the opposite problem of short stroking? Pushing the buffer/spring back too hard or causing it to push back too quickly?

I've watched a lot of Youtube videos on the topic of gas and buffers but haven't really figured it out.

>>30616526
Except, I have 16" carbine, 16" midlength, 18" rifle length and 20" rifle length uppers, and they like to have orgies with my lowers, which are almost all carbine lowers sporting different buffer weights. Over the course of going on 2 years this has not caused any short stroking issues, even with shit ammo. I have no idea what you are on about.

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>>30616478
Wat?

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>fucking bigass owl screeching outside my window at 12:30 in the fucking morning

Three questions:

- Why aren't owls legal to hunt?
- Is .223 acceptable for taking down large birds, assuming it's just sitting low on a tree and you are in an unpopulated area with plenty of woodland behind where you're shooting?
- What do you suppose owls taste like?

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>>30616701
Nyet, bird is friend.

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Speaking of buffers, what's the best buffer weight for my AR?

Mine is using a regular mil spec carbine buffer tube, and a 16 inch barrel with midlength gas system.

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>>30615289
>charging handle edition

>>30616716
had 2 parakeets growing up that made the whole house smell worse than my 3 cats and 6-10 dogs ever could

they had a terrible encounter with said 3 cats when the cage was left open one day and the dogs ate them whole. horrible shame. such a tragedy.

>>30616726
perfect

>>30616743
You don't seem genuinely bothered by it

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Question.... I have a 20 inch ar upper and the front sight is just ever so slightly canted to the left. At first I didn't notice it until I put my eotech on and notice the dot was just off to right of the front post. You think it's worth getting repaired? I just got it from psa and they said they would repair it, but I feel like I may be nit picking

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>>30616800
not saying i left it open

but

i left it open

loudest stinkiest pets ive ever owned, but I'm more scarred by living in a small home with so many cats and dogs for 18 years than the loss of the birds.

do you understand how traumatic it is to see your gameboy color and pokemon red absolutely chewed up on the ground one day coming home from school as a young child? entire set of n64 games ruthlessly pissed on by a new male cat? you cannot know my pain

>>30616723
That's gonna depend on a lot of things anon.

What is the intended use of the rifle? What kind of ammo are you going to be putting through it? Do you care more about reliability or low recoil?

>>30616504
Spec Ops 2 point padded patrol ling for fixed stocks

>>30616823
I hate cats.

>>30616726
listening to taylor right now, "Speak Now"

>and her snotty little family all dressed in pastel
kek'd

>>30616726
>no forward assist

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Alroght niggers, this is the barrel I'm thinking of.

Y / N and why?

http://www.primaryarms.com/odin-works-ar15-ss-18-223-wylde-barrel-18-rifle-length-gas-block-included/p/b-223-18-dmr/

>>30617014
>weight
>40.5oz

what kinda rifle you buildin lizurd

>>30617028
Spr

>>30617036
o yea, tru.

r u poor? why don't you buy a douglas

>>30617042
Not poor but I have limited available funds for this gun

>>30617064
i'm sure you've seen pb talk about ballistic advantage, have you considered?

>>30617074
Yes I have

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>>30617074
>>30617081
I should elaborate, they haven't had shit in stock for a while

>>30617085
oh time is a factor?

>>30617131
More or less, yeah

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>>30617149
issues 4 me

>>30617159
Does BA do all that?

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>>30617166
yes but just a heads up, the odin listing erroneously lists HP twice once as "HIGH PRESSURE" and another as "HP"

>>30617211
Wot?

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>>30617211
This?

>>30617274
yeah HP and "HIGH PRESSURE" are the same damn thing to my knowledge, hwoever it is 5am.... am i wrong?

Thinking about picking up a Vortex Sparc AR for $200. Anyone have any experience with them?

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>>30615326

so in other words never

>>30615597

only newfags brag about being oldfags

>>30616814

post upper

>>30617416
K

Y

S

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News

>>30615752
Who are you?

>>30617473

no u

tbqh you should be saving your money to move instead of spending all your shekels on something CA may very well outright ban after the next shooting

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>>30616122
I'm at mine for the summer, (college fag). Literally does not care what I do with my guns as long as I don't shoot something

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>>30617482

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>>30617482
He likes the holster I made him.

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>>30615289
Ignore middle rifle

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>>30617560

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>>30617566

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>>30617500
>My fingers when I fire one .30 cal 30 round clip In 30 seconds

WILL TODAY BE THE DAY MY PSA ORDER FINALLY SHIPS OUT?

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT

STAY TUNED...

>>30617599
No ur fukt Kys

>>30617616
just how many of you /arg/ tripfags have pet lizards

jesus, you guys should start a club

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>>30617627
only the poor ones

What's the best option for me if I want a nitride 18" barrel? Budget is anything under $1k. Build or complete idc

>>30617664
Also is .223 wydle a meme? Should I just stick with 5.56?

>>30617670

still with 5.56 newfag, then you can shoot both 5.56 and .223

if you get .223 you can only shoot .223

>>30617677
>if you get .223 you can only shoot .223
yes, but if you get .223 wylde like he was talking about you can shoot both 5.56 and .223

but I agree, it is a meme and stick with 5.56

>>30617677
.223 Wylde =/= .223 Remington

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>>30617677
wydle

retard

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How difficult should it be to assemble a lower receiver? I have the tools, but no mag vice block. I've never assembled one.

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>>30617690
*wylde
too fucking early

>>30617691
about 1 difficult

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>>30617692
Get your shit together giddy.

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>>30617691
it's very easy. no need for the vise block. roll pin punches is all you should need, although a takedown pin detent tool is nice to have for simplicity's sake.

>>30617627
Like 2 or 3 IIRC

>>30617655
But you don't have one

>>30617691
Buy a magazine and put it in a vice you fucking fool

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PSA please ship my upper

>>30617760
I did buy one and thought of that. Itts coming with my buffer kit.

>>30617707
I was just going to use a thin blade. Am I fucked?

>>30617769
same here, also waiting on PSA

wtf is taking those fags so long

>>30617781
Use a razor blade, that's what I did

>>30617781

I didn't need a mag block or vice to assemble mine. Just don't be a limp wristed faggot.

How long does it take PSA to ship I haven't checked but I ordered a few pmags and a lower parts kit with str stock. I'm not gonna check and just be surprised when it comes

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>>30617627
No lizards here, just snabbers

>>30617627
>>30617655
the ones who don't shoot

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>>30617792
Post more pls

I can't get this poor spider to eat, we have had him a year and he had not been fed for 6 months prior

Poor guy :(

What's for breakfast guys?

>>30617690
Before clicking the picture your thumbnail looks like you have a Trijicon SRS

>>30617803
>>30617792

if that was in my yard I'd kill it

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>>30617803
>>30617792
Not keeping your snake comfy
Cmon guys

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>>30617803
Try live or freshly killed, this cunt is picky as Fuck. Also make sure he is comfy with environment.

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>>30617803
pupper isnt move pls halp

>>30617809
Unless you are in the tropics you don't have to worry, if you are Florida you have those Burmese pythons to deal with.

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>>30617822
Why did you shoot that Hippo with a 240?

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>>30617560
Ayyy, those real lvoas?

>>30617808
gross

also, i had cookies and milk.

>>30617839

you're gun looks stupid

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>>30617839
Salient

>>30617809
Well that's fine. I'd kill a rattler tbhfam

>>30617819
>>30617821
I've tried braining them and we have tried live feed and he always just freaks.

>>30617822
Pupper is Ded so sry


I seriously blame the fucking beaners we got him from. They thought he was aggressive because of the way he moves and he has been literally super social with us.

Idiots

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>>30617858
Freaks how?, try waving with tongs

>>30617737
There's a reason for that and I believe I already stated it.

>>30617760
vice is not necessary

>>30617781
razor blade is good. it's what I use

>>30617865
I've tried fampi. I've tried total darkness, natural light, feeding w/ heating pad, feeding in normal tank (we don't normally do so. We are desperate) tired dry frozen thaw, wet frozen, bloody frozen, freshly killed, live, everything.
I'm convinced he doesn't want to eat

>>30617867
Yes responsibility is too much for you kek

>>30617867
Vice is definitely not required for lower, I'd strongly advise it and a torque wrench for upper regarding barrel.

>>30617853
Ur mum
>>30617854
Damn son, yoybhave one with their jail break thing on it?

Does anyone know what the proper diameter for a rifle length ar-15 buffer spring? I have two, one fits snugly onto the buffer, the other one has a larger diameter and is basically free floating

>>30617876
This, a torque wrench and an AR15 wrench are necessary.

>mfw laid in bed and couldn't sleep
>mfw literally not tired and been up for almost 24hours

Halp

>>30617885
>torque wrench
>AR-15 wrench
>necessary

o ye of little ingenuity

>>30617867
I never said it was

>>30617871
kek

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>>30617876
Sure for the upper but he asked about the lower.

>>30617903
You told him to buy one when its not necessary

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>>30617903
NOT FUNNY

I just want the little shit to eat already

>>30617895
Elaborate

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>>30617895
>Not properly torquing your barrel
Unless you've got the 'feel' down, this is unwise

>>30617882
you have an AR10 spring buckaroo

>>30617916
>>>/an/

Should I stake the castle nut or should I just get some red picture or sum shieett

>>30617871
Hit up /an/

>>30617921
Which one is the ar-10 spring? I hope it is the larger one because it is the one that has been giving me problems

Just got an AR-15 the other day. Does anyone have a noob guide to maintenance/cleaning/lubing? Thanks a lot

>>30617924
Red loctite***

>>30617877
Nah they moved to Vegas when they were still R&Ding it here. Told them no thanks

>>30617913
I told him to put a magazine in a vice and use that instead if he wanted one

>>30617917
fuck off, as long as your job isn't dependent on liability of manufacture you can tighten it snuggly and be fine

>>30617917
>>30617916

Take channel locks. Apply tape to business end of channel locks. Torque barrel as much as possible by hand, then use a hammer and punch to turn the barrel nut over one extra tooth. Vice is required

>>30617913
Thats why I specified for the upper.

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>>30617938
Damn, how did you end up with so many anyways?

>>30617927
No shit its the larger one, there should be some play. Loose gun = happy gun

>>30617929
boresnake bore, clp the bcg, that's it

>>30617929
CLP is your friend.

You don't need to clean an AR every time you shoot.

When you do clean it, all you need to focus on is the BCG and the Chamber and give the barrel a few swabs.

>>30617924
Just tighten it real good, no need for stake or loctite

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>>30617923
No

>>30617925
I will, thanks famalama

>>30617944
Res not to specified ftlb Ree

>>30617949

Either you misread my post or you didn't read what you wrote. Thanks for being an ass though

Does anyone else have an answer?

>>30617941
>Job dependant on quality/liability
Refer back to pictures of ARs/shotguns in racks with workorders. I've seen cracked uppers from overtorque

>>30617948
I worked for them in Oxnard, that's the shop

>>30617972
I don't have the diameter memorized but I solved your problem so quit your whining

>>30617974
Less is more man, you don't need a wrench.

>>30617995
>Less is more
Not my rifle, not my financial risk

>>30617995
Nigger you didnt solve any problem, you said that the ar-10 buffer has a larger diameter, and then went on to say that this is the right spring for an ar-15. Note the different numbers after "ar"

>>30617790
I ordered an upper 4 days ago, no email front them yet. I heard they take a while

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Is sopmod best stock for day cheekweld?

>>30618043

I'd argue its more of a night cheekweld

>>30618074
Kys

>>30615355
What rail is this?

>>30618074
Dat kek

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I think this is the proper thread for this. I shitpost in /BRG/ regularly, and I figured it's time to get a poodle shooter. Rate and revise my proposed build, anons.
>York Arms custom engraved lower
Is forged aluminum
>Aero Precision Complete upper
(Pic related) Chambered in .223 Wylde, 16 inch barrel, getting the black Keymod rail.
>Basic bitch lower parts kit from PSA, excluding trigger
>Giessele SSA trigger
I'm already used to a 2 stage trigger because of the HK91 platform.
>Magpul CTR stock, trigger guard, and pistol grip
>Basic bitch buffer tube (Mil-spec) with an ambi sling plate
>Rail-mounted HK diopter iron sights
>Prism 3x scope with ACSS reticle

What would you guys change about it, and why?

>>30618043
Ti-7 or bust.

>>30616723
Carbine or standard H buffer should work just fine

>>30618083

don't worry about it.

>>30618089
Is that monolithic? Why? Also go M-Lok

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>>30618077

remain upset

>>30618098
I'm just curious, I've already decided on a Geissele

>>30615920
>What's wrong with a heavy barrel?
It's heavy

>>30618102
I don't think it's truly monolithic, just simulating it. The rail system can be changed out if needed. And what are the benefits of M-lok over Keymod?

>>30615920
Whats the point of the front sight on that?

>>30618089
I would change the upper, trigger, irons and optic

>>30618089

id pass on the jingle sling mount, swap the HK sights for something folding and get a strike eagle instead of the prism

>>30617972
The AR15 buffer spring grips the buffer. The one that tdoesnt grip it is the AR10 spring

>>30618126
For what? What's wrong with the ones that I listed?

>>30618145

irons are unecessarily large, prism is dum, most people like the SSA-E vs the SSA, pb prefers the MBT, I personally wouldnt get a 14.5 upper - muzzle device will be pinned and welded, makes it harder to swap muzzle devices, rails, etc.

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New upper so that means a new folding front sight to match muh KAC Micro Rear.

KAC Folding Micro or KAC Folding M4?

>>30618145
Aero handguards are fuck wide iirc, get a ssa-e, your irons and optic choice are shit imo

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>>30618173

aero enhanced is pretty comfy

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>>30618173
I'm used to wide handguards and diopter sights tho. And what's wrong with Prism? I though they were good for their price. Is the reticle not as good as people say?

>>30618185
2wide4me

>>30618207
If you want it the get it senpai. I'm just telling you my opinion. Some people like the reticle and some don't, I've never used it so can't say for me.

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>>30618207
I love the ACSS retical on my ACOG

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>>30618249

crosshair masterrace

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>>30618249
degenerate

does anyone know who makes decent camo furniture?

BCM had it but theyre out of stock and their shit flakes apparently

>>30618261
you're no better
chevron and shoulders is the only good acog

>>30618264
Spray paint

>>30618281
ecos a best

>>30618281
chevron is one of the worst, right along with the half doughnut

>>30618303
hey, go tell your lgs to open early, i don't feel like waiting 3 more hours

>>30617854
>Salient
ewww

>>30618327
Opinions on the DD Lite and DD Slim rail? I can't find a M4A1 RIS II anywhere.

>>30618341
the slim is really slim for a quad, very well made and just as good as the ris ii but with a smaller id(obviously)

>>30618349
They have the Slim in a quad? I'd buy that in a heartbeat. I thought it was only dickmod

>>30618349
the only reason i'd go with the m4a1 is if i were cloning.
lite is basically the same thing as ris ii but with sling points, a little lighter and smaller.
haven't gotten to molest one of the slim rails yet but if i were building something right now that's what id go with.
>>30618373
>They have the Slim in a quad?
no. the only reason it's any smaller than the lite is because it doesn't have rails on 3/4 sides.

>>30618373
yes, it's called the lite rail iii or now it's called the m4 rail.

>>30618385
>>30618388
Thanks! My rail decision has been made. Gonna go with the Lite. I don't know why, I just can't really get into Keymod or M-Lok. I've tried. I really have. I like rails, but I'm going to go with something longer and lighter than the LaRue quads I have now.

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>>30618412
good choice as long as you only use a lo-pro gas block.

>>30618119
The only true benefit I've been able to find for mlok over keymod is mlok lets you do half placements.
So you have more fine adjustment.
Then again, keymod's slots are about half as long as mlok so you have roughly the same amount of adjustment.

Mlok has more aesthetic grip panels.
I'd look at accessories and figure out what you think you want to use, and get the system that matches what the most accessories you want come in.

>>30618436
I'm assuming my BCM lo-pro should fit.

But I may have to buy a new BCM gas block if I end up going with the BFH Lightweight barrel instead. I've got a leftover .750 gas block left over from my first build that I started before I decided to go FSP.

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>>30618447
>mlok has more AESTHETIC grip panels

Citation fucking needed.

>>30618466
NSR panels don't come in OD :^)

>>30618453
as long as it's lo-pro and not an adjustable gas block

>>30618321
Are you buying it?

>>30618466

>implying keymod or mlok rails need rail panels at all

>implying shelving looks better than the way of the future mlok

Just ordered a DD Lite II 12" for $270 on sale

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>call lgs
>ask about kac sr-15 lower
>tells me they don't have any
>says they are $250 and there are only a handful of dealers who would
i'm guessing he doesn't know what i'm talking about.

>>30618557

>no we dont have them

>but let me throw out a bs price on them anyways

the fuck

>>30618544
if no one locally has one, i will.
just called another place and he told me to check online.
welp, fuck them, i called for a reason.

>>30618557
kek

>>30618577
Try and haggle them, hey have had the lowers for a while

Torn between the BCM BFH standard weight or the BFH lightweight barrels. Is a difference of 5oz worth enough to go to a thinner profile barrel?

>>30618680
should i try lower than $750 shipped?
i've never haggled and am not sure how low to go.

>>30618261
Taken from Omni Hotel in Dallas Texas

>>30618710
555 S Lamar St
from roughly 5th floor

>>30618710
>>30618725
do you feel smart?
this is the hundredth time it's been posted and some anon plays detective.

>>30618710
>>30618725
I could have told you that from look the first time he posted that

>>30615326
>good shit first time
>ALG rail, 80% receiver
Kek. Fugged that up already

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Finally have an optic of some sort. Will eventually get replaced with a SHV, and the SE will go to the other AR

>>30618762
>shv
Why? Its 80% as expensive as an atacr but only about 50% as good.

>>30618734
I thought it was a treasure hunt?
Don't I get sum succ?

>>30618741
Fuck off. No one asked you, filthy anon.

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what do you guys think is a reasonable price for this upper

>noveske chainsaw 10.5 with pig
>eotech exps2
>raptor charging handle
>magpul afg

>>30618773
Well, I feel a little dumb now
>why not atacr?
Probably because the lowest mag they offer is 4-16x.

I still dont like the shv scopes, they really arent up to normal NF standards.

>>30618818
$800

>>30618773
They're closer to half as expensive, the F1 model especially.

>>30618706
Try 700

>>30618710
Mr Detective

>>30618841
Used to be I could find atacrs for around $1800-2000, whereas the shvs are in the $1100-1200 range.

But I guess they aren't directly comparable due to atacrs being all mid-high magnification.

How do the shvs compare to the low-mid nsx scopes?

>>30618840
really? cause the upper retails for 14 hunna new, i was thinking closer to $1000

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>>30618083

It's a PSA rail. Pretty sure they don't make it anymore though. It came with the upper.

>>30616726
Hey, where can I get one of those?

>>30618905
It looks fucking cool

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Pls halp /arg/, you're my only hope.

About to place an order for a BCM barrel. If I go BFH government profile, I have a spare BCM .750 gas block. If I want to go light weight for the same price barrel, I'll have to spend the money for a new .625 gas block.

Is it worth $50 or so to save 5oz up front?

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>>30618872
If I could find an atacr for 1800 I'd rather do that, I agree. But the lowest I saw was about 2200, while SHVs were about 1100 to 13 for the F1. I'd probably get a mid-mag anyways.

>>30618945
Yes

>>30618905
Fuck I wish I ordered the AP SPR mount instead of the PA Deluxe Extended

Why do you guys have back up sights with no QD mounts?

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got this last week.. what do

>>30618969
Are you just saying that or is the 5 oz up front actually noticeable and is there any disadvantage when putting a lot of rounds down range?

>>30619050
Lock it up and shoot it twice a year.

>>30619050
Upgrade to free float handguard

>>30619050
A2 grip to garbage can for K2+
MI G3 MLOK handguard
MBUS sights
Take off VFG
Order slow shipping Larue MBT, they don't charge you til it ships in 8 to 12w

>>30617980
Oh, that's really cool

>>30619057
government profile is shit

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>>30619059
>>30619068
>>30619076

ive already got a gucci AR.. this is the FN collector one.. shouldnt i make it mil spec or whatever

>>30618900
You could ask 1200 for that upper with optic easy

>>30619100
Okay, just ordered BCM BFH Lightweight and a .625 gasblock

>>30619003
It take a few seconds to unscrew the mount

anyone here have a pic of a 10.5" handrail on a 16" barrel?

>>30619195
No, but I've built them with gunstruction and think they look awesome.

I think 10.5" and 12" are my favorite lengths for aesthetics.

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>>30616829

My rifle is an all-purpose home build. Home defense is a more likely scenario, but I do like having it around in case Phoenix breaks out in riots and people start burning buildings down.

The least powerful thing I'm probably going to shoot out of it is .223 Wolf Gold.

Is raptor charging handle awesome or a meme?

>>30619164

Is there a point with etched reticles?

How much force would it take from a vise to damage a gov profile barrel? I am thinking of using a couple of 2x4s and some rubber as a barrel vise but need to know if I can just vise down the wood until it deforms around the barrel.

>>30619109
If you want to. KAC RAS is probably the best non-free floating drop in handguard on the market.

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>>30619337
>be 2016
>still buying non-free float
I mean, come on...

will buying a new gas block affect how my gun works?

>>30619373
I'd bet money you can't outshoot a non-FF barrel

>>30619299
meme

Accidently posted this in akg. Anyone here have experience with the Eotech 512? I have an opportunity to buy one off a friend for cheap.

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>>30619376
perhaps

>>30619050

ACOG or aimpoint + trigger

>>30619396
Acog, buy trigger later

>>30619328
>cost of clamshell vise block: $35
>cost of a new barrel: $180++

>>30619382
How so? Everywhere I've read seems to prefer it over BCM and other ambi charging handles.

Are there any perks to having a 1:9 twist than a 1:7?

which buis would be best for a first build?

is it kac or nothing?

can I move my gas block like 5" away from my receiver or is that a big no-no?

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>>30619415

shoots 55 grain better. 1:8 or 1:7 are the best options

>>30619415
You can stabilize really lightweight varmint 223

>>30619415
Depends really how far you are trying to shoot and with what bullet weight.

At longer distances, the 1:9 is likely the better twist rate if you want to shoot lighter grain bullets. 1:7 for heavier. I don't think you'll see a difference for the first couple hundred yards. Especially with mil-spec ammo.

If you're buying or loading match grade ammo, shoot what your gun prefers. Would you rather have a smaller bullet traveling faster while quickly losing energy. Or a heavier bullet traveling a bit slower but retaining more energy.

Both are likely fine for most distances unless you are pursuing a purpose built rifle. 1:8 is probably ideal both heavy and light weight.

>>30619426
KAC, I just ordered a Micro front to match my Micro rear BUIS

who are some good online retailers?

so far I've checked

BCM
PSA
Midway
Brownells

Who else am I missing? I'm trying to find all the shit I want to order in one place instead of ordering from multiple sites

>>30619442

What's the big advantage to shooting a heavy bullet?

>>30619461
Joe Bob Outfitters
DSG Arms
Rainier Arms
LaRue
Primary Arms

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>>30619414
i literally can't do this with a mil-spec style ch like the bcm ambi

it's all in the pivot point.

>>30619461
There's a shitload of choices. My rifle is an amalgamation of parts from BCM, Stag, Magpul, and Aero Precision.

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>>30619460
Should've gotten the mk12/18...

How's m193 do with a 1:7 twist?
Does it stabilize just fine?

>>30619465
Retains energy at a longer distance than say a 55 grain

>>30619442
i find this chart hard to believe, why would the m16 a4 service rifle have a 1:7 twist and the military would decide to use a 62 grain round. I know military intelligence is a myth, but that would be crazy if this chart was true

>>30619485

At 100 yards you're literally going to see zero difference.

The effect only becomes more pronounced at much longer ranges.

>>30619485
Over stabilizes makes the bullet all fucked up. The shit spins so fast gravity is reversed. You won't be shooting low but you will be shooting high. It gives at least 300 more joules of energy

>>30619484
Why? It's just extra bulk and an extra $50 just to have what you have?