Lets discuss shoes

But those are boots.

>>30606274
Shoes/Boots

>>30606274

Boots are a type of shoe.

I like the desert meindls they look good. Desert is a color that should be used more

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>>30606254
Sometimes I like to tie my boots around my dick and helicopter them around in a circle.

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Oh my god shoes!

>>30606254
Just got a pair of Danner Rivots, pretty exited to have a pair of boots that will last me for years

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Let's party

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>>30606254
Honestly I just got a pair of doc martins. I broke them in and they're some of the comfiest foot clothes I've ever worn, and I can run in them better than I could any McReas or anything similar, but I'm flat footed.

Also they go well with any dressy occasion/clothes if you're not a child and know how to take care of a pair of leather shoes.

Oh hey boots maybe someone here can help me. What are some good tactical/hiking boots? am on a budget

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>>30606727

I have the Acadias. They can be sent in to be resoled/reconditioned.

>>30606254
Merrill MOABS confirmed for best boots

>>30606757
>doc martens
>dressy

No.

>>30606757
You have incredibly shitty taste anon

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>>30606757
When it comes to boots what always makes or breaks for me its the platforms. I HATE boots with huge fucking platforms under them. I know that the boots are more comfortable to walk in with the higher soles but holy fuck when I see them I just think PolioShoes.

On the left are Mark III Canadian combat boots. I like the low bottoms on them. They look very neat.

On the right are Mark IV. They look like retard shoes. Doc martins also.

I don't know why it triggers my autism but jesus christ I hate them.

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>>30606757

>>30606987
Get rocky c4ts. Cheap and good

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>>30606254
Boot upper construction peaked in the cold war. Unlined thick single layer leather is a far more durable, permanently waterproof and quick drying construction than modern suede leather, cordura, goretex stuff.

Soles meanwhile have actually improved, with their better cushioning. They probably sacrificed more durability than necessary still. (PU midsoles crumble if they're unused for too long...)

I'm talking from the pov of a private hiker or hobby /k/ommando here. Modern boots are alright for the military with the supply and funds to buy new stuff every few months.

Debate me faggots.

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+stylish
+affordable
+sturdy as fuck
+solid sole support
+tacticool black
there are literally no downsides

>>30607196
Danner doesn't make Acadias in tan or coyote anymore. Makes me super sad.

I've got 2 pairs of rivets (one tan gtx and one coyote summer) and one pair of tan desert tfx.

I'm a super big fan of danner if you can't tell. There are not many brands I'm super loyal to, but I really like these boots.

>>30608435
Ahhh 25 dollar RG's, never have I worn a more uncomfortable boot than those

>>30608398
>Quick drying.

Best joke ever.

>>30608526
It's not hard to wear them dry.

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Can anyone comment on these or salomons in general?

>>30607196
I wish they made the danner RAT boots for the Army. Those boots look heavy but super cozy and durable. But I'll just have too settle for the rivets until they get a good boot for the Army that can become resoled. The Acadias looked awesome

>>30608513
your loss guy. I find my boots to be incredibly comfortable as they were given to me by my brother so they are about a half a size bigger than I normally wear.
extra support with tall socks and long johns for warmth and insulation

I am ready for anything

>>30608526
Goretex takes forever to dry because moisture is usually in between the outer leather layer and the membrane (which also breaks the leather really fast).
Leather lining is just another layer of leather to dry (also, the part in between the two layers keeps moisture pretty well).
The only thing that would dry even faster would be a non-membrane synthetic lining (assuming moisture stays in the lining, rather than enters the layer through the lining).
Or purely textile boots, but these have their own problems.

>>30608734
Comfortable they were not, but they were durable as fuck, lasted 3 uncomfortable years of being a police explorer as a teenager

>>30608771
are you LEO? did police exploring help you become a LEO after primary school?
I am 23, no degree, but have been considering looking into the local academy and the requirements.

>>30608813
Not LEO yet, but getting there. I can't speak for other explorers elsewhere but my program was a fucking joke, more PT than actual police training, and our leadership was incompetent, I was overlooked for promotion twice for the sole reason of not being in the honor guard. So I can't say my experience has helped me that much

>>30609032
hmm I see, thanks for the input. I spent many years as a kid trying to be rebellious and edgy albeit adhering to some self-created "moral code" but in the last year or two I have come full circle and realized that being a police officer would be the only career I have ever been destined for that suits me well... but I have one hiccup which is substance use which I would have forego to be a police officer but I haven't looked that far into it yet

>>30606987
I like my bogs. I've put 60-70 miles of ROUGH rocky terrain on them. Held up good so far, and comfy. Breddy waterproof, but you'll want to spray them with some of that Campdry stuff.

6/10 would not wear in winter

Are Bates ultra lites 8" recommended?

>>30609642
I've had a pair of Bates zero mass that were pretty damn good boots. No idea about them.

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>>30607301
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahs

>>30608550
Well you've never crossed a lake while wearing them then. Took at least 3-4 days to get them all dry afterwards.

I've been wearing these for like 10 years in service, they are shit and everyone swaps them for anything better ASAP.

>>30608580
First place tie with oboz boots

>>30608398
Boot uppers take dramatically less stresses than the lowers. The extra weight from leather will wear you out faster.

Modern synthetic uppers will last longer than sole, be lighter, can actually breathe, and won't need routine treatment of the material to stay functional.

>>30608580
Currently using the 4d2 gtx civilian version for service. Great shoes, comfy, a bit hot in summer

>>30609699
However they are really sturdy.
My two pairs are like 12 and 13 years old, only got the soles changed. With proper care they will last a lifetime.

>>30607196
Yea you can resole them for the price of buying a new pair of boots. Danners for all their quality are too expensive if you're going to beat the shit out of them

>>30608638
You should be able to resole the 390Des

>>30610359
Are the 390 des belleville's? I'm not a fan of Belleville, for whatever reason they literally eat my feet down to the muscle when I'm rucking or out in the field. I did a 25 mile ruck in the rain for army training and the entirety of balls of my feet looked like they got scalped by a tomahawk

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/sfb-jungle-8-leather-mens-boot/pid-10954977/pgid-11292177

If it's purely for outdoors stuff, they're godly.
If youre trying to look normal, you shouldnt be wearing boots in the first place

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>>30606254
No shoe has ever felt like this. It just doesn't feel right to wear anything else.
>muh vibram soles

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>>30606254
I got a pair of Rocky C4T's and I love 'em. Hits the right balance for me between being sturdy and light. I've had friends run heavy marathons in the rain without any problems before.

>>30609691

I'm a cityfag that doesn't go hiking.

What's the significance of a break in period? What made this guy's foot peel apart? I've owned boots and walked long distances in them after only a few days of owning them, but that was all on concrete sidewalks.

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>>30610662

>Rocky

My nigga.

BOOTEKS
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5.11 8" ATACs.

I was wondering what /k/ would recommend as a good replacement insoles for a pair of hiking shoes or boots.

>>30610693
Ever gotten a blister? Ever smelled your feet after working hard outside and then taking your shoes off? That smell is bacteria. If you have blisters from your unbroken shoes rubbing your feet to death, and then add in bacteria to the mix, your asking for a necrotic infection known as trench foot.

>>30610517
Damn man, were they fitted properly? because belleville's sizing is weird, it's 1 size down from what you wear. I wear 9.5w so I wear 8.5w. They are pretty comfy except for this weird bend that kinda hurts my ankle on my left, but I can fix it.

>>30606254

I'm thinking about joining the air-force as security forces. I have never worn boots of any type at all. ( Wolverines ) are the only thing I can think of I've worn for work.

How should I figure out what size and such I need to make sure I get get boots that won't fuck up my feet? I assume they're not like average shoes, or the wolves. Should I ask a recruiter about this? I don't want to make a fool of myself but I don't want to possible get boots that fuck me up cause I choose a size that's not right cause all I have to base it on is sneakers...

>>30611120
Yeah, I got them fitted right. They fit exactly like most of my previous boots. They just ate holes in my feet. I swapped out the inserts and that helped, but not much. I now wear them in garrison though so not a complete waste. But they are really durable at least so no one here think that they aren't good boots. They just weren't good for my feet

>>30611120
Also I got a pair of the Danner Rivots on sale from AAFES for 195$ so THANK GOD for that I ain't paying 320$ for a boot I can't resole

>>30611536
Don't ask a recruiter, obviously you will get issued boots.

When I went to 30th AG the civilians were absolutely nasty and impatient with us. I did not settle for a pair of boots until I found a pair I could comfortably fit in. You want them bitches skin tight, but not so tight that your toenails are rubbing against the front of the boot. You will thank me later, because people will get boots that are nice and loose and they'll be begging for a new pair by day 2 because of the blisters.

I have an odd boot size but the people who fit your boots are professionals and will find a size that suits you. I've seen people sit at the same spot for 45 min until they found the exact boots that worked, and I don't blame them for a second.

That being said, all types of brands have different boot sizes so there is no standard size for any type.

Seems like the place to ask this: I am going to be heading to basic training (Army, US) and was wondering what shoes /k/ recommends for someone with flat as fuck feet. Suggestions?

>>30610662
>still wearing ACU's
heh heh heh

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>>30611829

>>30611824
You idiots will never get it, will you?

YOU GET ISSUED BOOTS AND SHOES WHILE INPROCESSING. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT PICK ANY TYPE OF SHOE TO GET BESIDES GOFAST FUCKING BASIC ISSUE SHOES. SAME FOR BOOTS.

That being said, when you graduate and get to your unit, look into a pair of Asic's or Under armors for running shoes. Boot depends on where you're stationed, some have good support for mountains, others dry out faster. You can always buy new insoles but beware if you are going to be getting these boots wet (I doubt you will, you're probably enlisting to become a POG), you need to take the soles out of the boots so everything can dry.

>>30611824
Boot camp is supposedly letting people get inserts during inprocessing nowadays from what I've been hearing. Although that might just be at certain boot camp locations

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Vintage. Mountain. Boots.

>>30607196
did u just screencap an digital image instead of just uploading the image file?

>>30606727
>>30608452

i've worn down the sole in my Rivots considerably in 2 years of flying/office work.

also they're not recraftable.

>>30611795
>30th AG

I've never hated my life more. I honestly was more suicidal there than I've ever been in my entire life.

>>30612511
This. What the actual fuck?

>>30612540
Noted. But I've got a buddy in the 75th that has taken them on multiple tours so.....mileage may vary I guess?

>>30612734
>sir this uniform is about 3 sizes too big
"you're an XL long. i aint got time to talk, next soldier"
>get skullfucked 2 hours later by senior drill and 3 other goons for my ACU top sagging to my fingertips and down to my thighs, and bunching up so hard I looked like a pregnant 400lb woman
>go thru most of 19D OSUT before given a formal opportunity to replace this shit

Being so focused on how much i hated government civilians from the previous months of MEPS and processing at benning probably helped me get through the worst of the experience.

>>30612734
We had people decide they wanted to quit while in 30th AG. We also had a female drill Sgt we named Mama Dragon and we made that bitch cry on the daily. Didn't take much, she tried to make fun of a pvt asking if he was picked on, he looked her dead in the eye and said, "Did you?" and she fucking stood up, got an inch from his face and barked him out of the room where 3 other drill sgts took over hollering at him. She then bawled her eyes out in front of us and we laughed our asses off.

Come to think of it, I appreciate mama dragon because she really just told us the truth, this shit isn't a fairytale.

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bradley cooper's character in american sniper wore keens

are they any good?

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>>30610752
Hiking boots? Personally, I think they're for pussies and FAGGOTS. Now these are Vietnam jungle boots. Cost you half as much, last you twice as long and are great for stomping QUEERS. Course when you're done you have to clean out the waffle with a stick, but what the hell, you can't have everything.

>>30613015
>Are you picked on?
>Did you?
>*Cries in front of recruits*

This doesn't make sense to me mate.

>>30606429
>he doesn't helicopter them around in a square

>>30613015
Fucking Delta dragons.

I hated that place so much. I had tons of fun during the shark attack simply because I was doing something, and not sitting on those fucking benches.

Depending on when you went through, there were giant holes in the wall of a bay. My cycle did that.

>>30613080
Those are Merrill moabs

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>>30613082

>>30613098
You active or nasty girl? 11b or 19d?

We had a bunch of fights and our NCO on duty would come in and talk the fucking guys through it, every fucking day. Man we probably saw the same 30thAG people too, they've been there for fucking decades.

If you were on Sand Hill, what battalion were you? Charlie 2/19 here, across from the rec center.

>>30613085
It's obvious that she didn't like the challenge of authority and it pissed her off to the point of tears.

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Best shoes money can buy for

>>30613179
for can buy money best shoes?

>>30613217
It sounded right in my head.

>>30613234
Tell your inner voice he needs an editor.

>>30613080
Keens are fine

>>30613234
It's ok anon. Those are my go to lifting shoes, but they're not great for operating

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>>30607453
This x10, I love my RAT boots but they look so fucking boxxy and square. I usually only indulge in jungle boots but Altama only sells to the military so fuck me silly i might go for corcoran jump boots.

>>30611829
ABU's, thank you

>>30613310
I wish they made the RAT as an Army compliant version. I'd buy that shit in a heart beat

>>30613015
>30th AG
Wait a female DS at Benning? Man times have changed. Only females I saw were in support roles, office, supply sgt's etc.

>>30613325
I've had them for exactly a year, wore them off and on and i can tell where the sole is starting to split. They're comfortable and easy to walk in but dont last for shit. Not worth 350, bates jungle boots look tasty though, anyone reccomend them over corcoran jump boots?

>>30613118
oh my bad

i saw the mesh and thought they were keens

are merill moabs any good? would they make good hiking boots?

>>30613308
They got nice little air holes on the side in case your feet get hot though :)

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>wearing anything but the family boot

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>>30613082
11/10
Just the right amount of subtlety.

>>30613082
My leather cracked (i polished them every month) within a year and a half

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Tfw grandfather gave me these for free
Fuck yes

>>30613371
Not at infantry osut. There's a bct battalion on sand hill with female ds's.

>>30613498
I mean... would you expect them to normally cost something? I might pay a few bucks NOT to have those show up.

What are some good casual sneakers, that can also take a beating/not hinder me while operating?

>>30613498
Did he make loafers out of cowboy boots?

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>>30613498
I just pulled something in my back laughing at these.

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>>30613980
He literally handed me them and said "You want 'em?" So out of respect i said yes. My grandmother said he gave them to me because they kept slipping. What skin is it?

>>30614015
Human.
Your grandad partook in a longpig feast.

>>30614015
Is he senile?

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>>30614004
>>30614007
Jellous, faggots?
>>30614031
>>30614041

>>30614041
Like 84 and still is being paid to umpire for local baseball games

>>30611756
I think its because they are so durable that they don't 'break in' with your feet.

>>30614055
did they used to be boots and someone cut them at home?

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>>30614055
Gave me these too.

>>30614120
Yeah he cut them himself so he could wear them around the house

>>30614159
this pic answered my question, i can see the same pattern where he cut the leather away.
very /fa/
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>>30614137
I've never met someone who wore cowboy boots for their intended purpose.

I'll put up then shut up.

1/2

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>>30614412
2/2
These are my work boots

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ive had a pair of 1k's for 5 years now, theyll probably last the rest of my life

>pic related but not mine

>>30614412
Yeah, most jockeys now wear english riding boots, cowboy boots havent been seriously worn since the 50s On ranches in texas.

>>30611795

Thanks guy asking about boot size, thanks. I'll just let them help me then lol. Of all the things this and one other thing ( both answered ) was more worrisome too me than anything else.

5.11 taclite boots are pretty fucking good

>>30609701
Any specific model you would recommend?

>>30607453
Holy fuck I've been wondering where the shit the combat boots I've worn for 4 years came from. I had/have a pair of those Mk IIIs and they are badass... except for the winters here...(North Alaska).

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>>30606254
Lowa Renegades, boots of choice of SAS and whatever the German operators are called.

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Corcoran anyone? I have a pair of 1500s and 1525s. Still, my recent favorites are my Addison work boots with Biltrite soles.

>>30615172
How comfortable and how operateable are those jump boots? Cant decide between those and bates durashock

>>30614450
No they won't. You fell for the marketing congrats.

>>30613961
Even then, when I was there in 09-10 there were only male DS's with no word of any sort of female DS coming.

>>30615216
The classic 1500s are pretty stiff starting out, but if you don't care about upkeep on the shine, pretty comfy. I'd recommend the 1525s if you're going for durability. The toe and heel are hard cap, while the rest is soft and thick leather. The Marauder model is similar, except in the Jungle boot style with replacing the leather with Cordura on the main body. My 1525s are my go to boots for anything rough, I walk and run anywhere from 18-34 miles a week, and the soles are barely worn.

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>>30608580

Have a pair.

Used it for 3 years.

>Good for Canadian Winters (Slush, snow, ice, black ice, etc
>Good for summers (Used it for my Summer trip in Hong Kong)
>Breathable af. Good for extended periods of time. Did archery in above conditions for 3+ hours.

I also added Dr. Schools gel pads that made it comfy af.

I bought a pair for my dad as well.

>>30612437
dad? but seriously my dad owns boots that look like that.

>>30614055
those literally look like the shoes a peasant would wear. but if you love your grandpappy youll wear them everyday.

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>>30615216
Top 1500s, bottom 1525s. Not much of a perspective, but you can tell how well the 1525s have held up for me. I bought the pair new mid February last year.

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>>30615411

>>30615302
>>30615411
>>30615425
Thanks amigo, i found a pair of M1948 russet boots in my grandpappy's barn (The same one with those groovy cut cowboy boots) and so i applied saddle soap and made them soft as i could but they were a half size too small. Bummer but still really cool. I'll definetly take what you gave into consideration!

>>30615236
but they will anon, sorry youre too poor to afford them

>>30613082
great reference m8; let's do that sometime me and you we're the same

>>30606421
>Desert color should be used more.
No.

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Posted these in another boot thread. Daily wear is on the left. The RAT boots are good though, and I am not gonna get rid of those because I know they will out last my Bates lites by a long ass time.

>>30607453
The mkIII are based my captain in basic had a pair and he wore them all time. They were shinyer than any of are parade boots

>>30608435
>Zippers
never seen a zipper boot where that did not blow out on the sides

>>30614055
7/6 would pair it with bell bottom jeans and grow a kickass 'stache

>>30617592
Kek thanks anon. I would post a picture of my grandpa but i dont want y'all to track us down.

>>30613080
>keens
Keens are p.good. I got several different pairs, but my most operating would be my Detroits. Comfy af when when doing electrical operating innafactory.

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>>30617833
thats understandable anon, say hello to your pawpaw and tell him we love that shoes

>>30617912
Lol he is a stubborn catholic bastard so i doubt he'll care what you folks say but i'll tell him anyways.

>>30610662

>Still wearing C4Ts with ACUs
>Fix yourself

>>30614412
Where to cop good jungle boots?
Those are sexy af and I'm still wearing tan boots so I wanna get these until I am forced to wear coyote

>>30618183
Altama makes the best, but they only sell to the military even though they've been outlawed since like 2005 or some shit. Retarded.

>>30614454
They're still handy on Texas ranchland

>>30618452
Sure, but there are cheaper and better alternative's. I love those boots especially the stovetop ones, but they arent really realistic.

>>30608580
thier skis are meh

>>30613464
Are you talking about them shoes or yo dick?

>>30614055
Do you shave your legs?

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>>30606254
Mein neger. I have a pair of pic related. I haven't had them for long, but so far they are great and have excellent ankle support. I wouldn't suggest using them on a bike though...found that out the hard way.

>>30612437
old fuck here
these are some primo boots, guys.

>>30613082
>Hiking boots?...Vietnam jungle boots
have walked many a mile in both.
much prefer hiking boots...so will your feet after 25 miles...guess that makes me a pussy.
still walking the next day.

>>30614015
Stuff your nose in them while jerking your meat and get off to the aroma of your grandfather's feet.

>>30614412
Buy some blousers. That looks like shit, you must be an e1 or a butterbar.

>>30613464
Should've used mink oil instead of polishing.

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Stupid question possibly, but do any of you know if the little plates on each side of the toe on these boot serves a purpose?

Tell me how your shoes smell, /k/, I wanna know.

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>>30620847

Took a pair of Lowa renegades gortex for a two week military drill. they held up nicely to an unforgiving beating but are not suited for hot weather.
Maybe i should've gotten leather-lined instead