Milsurp/Camo/Militaria thread

>>30594904
>Trench is a faggot Jew who sucks cock to buy museum grade Bakelite magazines!

>>30594941
Mostly true. Bakelites are lame though. Will suk dic for surp.

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What goes in the goofy pockets on the knees?

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>>30594967
Dispersion knee pads.

>>30594967

Knee pads. Grunts have to keep officers constantly...satisfied.

>>30594967

Padding...?

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Also, check out what they were dumb enough to upload.

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Finally bought a Berghaus Vulcan Cyclops II for 60 Euro instead of a Bundeswehr Rucksack for 20 Euro.

How did I do?

>>30595105
ooh nice i want to cop

>>30595105
Also fucking Amsterdam man. Not only fucking disgusting architecture, but also knifes are banned from being carried. Seller made a fuss when I used a Swiss knife to cut the price tag off.

>>30595105
I've heard good things about them, not bad.

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>>30595122

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>>30595133

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This is really big. I like it.

>>30595138
Close up of camos?

are they're any websites to be recommended ?

>>30595348
Varusteleka for europe.
417.dk for denmark

So gp-5 gas mask filters have asbestos and degrading metal components that make them not safe right

>>30595175
Nothing interesting really. Dutch, German and Belgian camo.

>>30595348
http://pastebin.com/FMYXiAxi

>>30595423
Yes, but personally I wouldn't trust ANY surplus gas mask filters. They've been surplused for a reason. You should buy a fresh new filter if you've got the chance.

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>>30595315

>>30595138
>>30595133
where is that shop?

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Possibly another sighting of the "Estonian lizard" pattern.

>>30596136
No way. What the shit.

>karst teir V.2

>>30596136
Just to clarify; do you mean the cap in the left or the pants in the middle... or both?

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>>30596500

I meant the pants.
Reposting the image featuring the lizard helmet cover for reference.

>>30596525
Right, but what about the cap? It looks a little different compared to the other two in the right. Or is it just me?

The pants look like they could be just commercial Tiger Stripe, but it's really hard to tell for sure. I wish we had photos from up close.

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I have arrived at the holy lands!

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>>30596738

>>30596738
>>30596754
Quick, when he isn't looking! Steal me his dutch jungle stuff!

>>30594967
what the buttfuck is that??? Crye?? like everything about that, the camo too

>>30596976
Dispersion came in the crye cut. You couldn't have picked just about anything more expensive to like.

Telny has 3(4?) smocks, every one being one of the different variants. (Urban, woodland, alpine, and a new marine one just came out)

>>30594967
>>30596976
>>30597043
That camo looks like complete shit, to be honest. Way too much white to blend in anywhere, and the colour green they used has a heavy blue tinge. Is that supposed to even work?

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>>30596976
Arktis weirdness. I don't care for most of their stuff, bit I love me some dispersion.

>>30597043
They haven't produced any of the blue except that prototype though. Allegedly this is the only pair of ranger trousers they made in the dispersion pattern. £180.

>>30597062
It works where it;s intended to work.

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>>30597043
Also the woodland one IS the alpine one.

>>30597062
It honestly doesn't work for jack shit for where he lives, as it's really meant to be something like Alpine-Urban, Alpine-Woodland, Alpine-Alpine, etc.

The only one that kind of works maybe is the urban one when you're backed up against a semi white-washed red clay brick wall.

Pretty niche effectiveness if you ask me.

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whats up with the small sizes on the "British Soldier 95 trousers" on varusteleka? the largest waist on all three kind of trousers is 80 cm, anyone bought these? im so tempted on buyng the dyed black ones.

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>>30597194
I'm confused then, what's the one in the middle meant to be?

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>>30597194
It'd work against the red bricks if they were broken to expose a lighter shade. That's the idea.

It's Urban, a second version of Urban and an alpine snowline design.

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>>30597199
To me it just looks like they adjusted the colour on the urban dispersion.

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>>30597227
there's just too much white. It's too white-washed to blend in anywhere with actual trees and greenery. Maybe if they didn't have so much white in it, and had richer colours, it would be more effective.

I can't see that camouflaging someone in any environment other than maybe the middle one in a very frosty, late-fall early-winter pine forest, and even then there'd be better camos to use

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>>30596738
who's fucking collection is that

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>>30597253
I don;t disagree about the white, but I don;t think it should be poo-pooed as quick as it is.

The green is supposed to work against snow after all, the pinks..well they could be darker, but we have a lot of red brick in the UK so it makes sense in context.

>>30597195
They're probably out.

That's old gear, it's been drying up for a while.

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>tfw you've amassed such a wide variety East German kit that the stuff on eBay is hardly even worth looking at, let alone getting excited over

Posting again because I got no answer last thread. Does anyone have one of those Brazilian windbreakers from SG? How's the fit? I'm planning on getting one in medium because I'm a skeleton but I also have freakishly long arms and I don't wanna buy a jacket with short sleeves

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>>30597315
gib fallschirmjäger

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i found the desert dpm pants for the same price at a local store with right sizes, i'll buy them there and dye them myself

>>30595423
What? I thought GP-5's were the exception. They don't really have any asbestos in them last time I remember.

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>>30596738
>>30596754
Where. Now.

>>30597262
Trench's. Alpen is there for their little circle-jerk "surpfest" of two, sad, lonely souls.

>I'm just butt hurt I couldn't go. There's always the next one when it's actually open to anyone.

>>30597752

How sad..

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A reference pic for Spook, showing how the junior NCO course insignia should be placed.

(This is from the TTsKO era, but the regs concerning course patches haven't really changed).

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>>30597957

>>30597361
They're not really windbreakers. Also they're fairly shit.

Wow: http://www.ebay.com/itm/142052672654 (not my listing)

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>>30598223
holy fuck
too bad it's hobbit sized

>>30598223
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/142052672654
HOLY FUCK BALLS

>>30595965
In Amsterdam. Can't walk 100m without smelling weed, seeing overpriced stores, Argies telling you to come eat steak and the worst overpriced prostitutes. Shot hole desu senpai.

I know wearing surplus outside the house is a sperg thing to do, but some of it is just comfy and lets be honest, cool as fuck. I've tried on some uniform jackets at my local surp store, and I found the USMC charlie (I think) to be very comfortable. Would it be wrong for me, a non vet, to wear one? Spergness aside, would I piss off current and former service members if I get it? It's not like an unmarked M65 that's I guess fashionable, it's got Sergeant chevrons on it, and is clearly military even if you're not knowledgeable. Should I attempt to find one without chevrons or anything on it? It was really comfortable, which is hard to find comfortable clothes for me.

>>30598436
Don't wear one with rank markings you didn't earn.

Other than that, go nuts. I've been using a CS95 windproof smock as a winter jacket for a decade.

>>30598454
>Don't wear one with rank markings you didn't earn.
which is exactly why I asked, because I felt weird about it. If anyone would ask me I'd certainly tell me I'm not a vet, but the rank chevrons would still feel weird.

Any idea where I can find one without patches? Should I just wait for them to get one in?

Is this the thread for milsurp guns as well or is it just a camo and gas mask circlejerk?

>>30598490
You might just be able to take them off.

>>30598436
>>30598454
I just checked and it's not charlies, its an alpha jacket.

>>30598318
-_-
i'm asking where? not:
would you repeat in what city?

>>30598677
Boogert Legerdump, Kinkerstraat.

Pro tip: Althena surplus in Amersfoort is probably the best milsurp store, and I have visited almost all the stores in the Netherlands.

>>30598710
>mfw i live 15 km from amersfoort and never heard of this store
thnx lad

Does decommissioned bases classify as milsurp?

>>30596738
>>30596754

Inb4 "Man in Montana was killed by a bear" and Trench suddenly has TAZ90 in his collection afterwards.

Is this worth getting?

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>>30599070
Pretty nice shit camo anon has desu senpai.

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>>30599070
Yeah

>>30598748
Absolutely.

>>30600825
Did you rape Alpen yet?

>UPCCODE will be in my clutches tomorrow.

>>30601084
Nah, too twinkish. I like bears.

>>30600825
looks like a more contrasted type of atacs. What type of camo is that?

>>30601120
Experimental czech desert.

>>30601084
Send help! Pls

>>30601132
thanks

>>30601158
Get back in my basement

I just ordered a VEPR 12

did I fuck up?

>>30601158
You're better off a basement dwelling rape slave than you are in that cesspool of a state you call home.

>>30601753
Where's the lie?

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>>30601753
You got any UDT shorts?

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>>30601753
>>30601831
At least I let him out sometimes.

>>30602096
You think he'll behave well enough to earn his own cuckshed?

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>>30602103
doubt it.

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1/2

Another Goodwill find! A woodland M65 for $8.

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>>30602244
2/2

Now I just need to get a liner and a hood for it. A few minor stains but overall really good condition. It had some nametapes but I took them off because I'll probably wear this in public when it gets cold out again.

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Somebody Rang?

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>>30602244
>>30602280
Great find for $9!

>>30602533
>>30602244
>>30602280
I got a woodland camo m65 for free(hood and liner included), i ended up with a bunch of old militairy stuff over years. People just kept giving it to me. I really wish i hadn't sold so much of it.

>>30602096
Lefty! Reeeee!

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>>30602792
>he's not left handed

>>30602280
The hood is built in, why bother buying one to button in?

>>30595122
Nederland is the most cucked place in Europe, worse than Britain and Germanistan. Those feminine fucks there are multicultural, drugs and fag lover degenerates. Any thing remotely masculine i.e. carry a small knife is threatening to them. Hopefully that shithole will skink.

>>30603188
They hate anything bigger than their shriveled cocks.

>>30602096
>meanwhile in Montana California man is being raped in the middle of nowhere more on Fox News at 9.

I want 2 pairs of Milsurp PNV-57E. One to modify the ever loving shit out of so it fits on a normal """"""""tactical""""""" helmet without the 2-pound transformer, and the other to use so I can be true slav comrade complete with Moist Nugget, vodka, and of course, adidas.

>>30603211
>Meanwhile Canada man gets more and more jealous of that sweet sweet M/84

>>30603219
>meanwhile in canada man is broke and buried in cum stained camoflauge rags.

At least my countries gun laws are better than your shit states :^)

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Help, will post more. Great uncle gave me a M1 he got from somebody. Liner is WW2 style but grey plastic. Cover is unstamped. Helmet is probably real, vietnam era. Dark green, with sand texture. Chinstrap is Type 1 mid 80s i think. The chinstrap isnt comfortable, neither is the liner.

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Got my EG tanker helmet.

The fire retardant material is coming off the oilcloth, but besides that the construction is still strong and durable, has all buttons, wiring, foam on the earpieces is soft and intact.
There's slight rust on the buckles but nothing serious, no idea if the headphones or laryngophone works.

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Weird

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>>30603289
>>30603311

You have an Austrian liner on there, also the cover looks repro.

>>30603211
>Dutch """""'men"""""
>Having a cock at all
Kek, why do you think they import so many morrocans?

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Helmet's heatstamp is 4383, rear seam. Stamp reads

HBA
1972

>>30603342
Huh cool, thanks!

>>30603342
Is there any reason why no matter how i adjust the headband, it always feels loose? The vietnam style liner feels amazing.

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What would you guys recommend to fuck around in this kind of terrain?

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>>30603379
>>30603393

No prob, you got a nice early 1972 dated M1971 liner.
The HBA stand for Heeresbekleidungsanstalt, or Army Clothing Agency, and is found on most Austrian army uniforms/equipment.
Quite an odd mixture to have in one helmet.

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>>30603311
Chinstrap does not look like US military either. The weave on the chincup is different.

Where would I find some PNV-57E Soviet-era NVG's? I hear a few years ago they were huge milsurp and were basically the Moist Nugget of NVG's, but like the Mosin surplus, it seems to be drying up somewhat. They used to go for $150 or less when they were in large supply, much like the Mosin. I've looked on eBay and Amazon, and the cheapest I could find it was $600. At that point it's better to buy modern gen 2-3 monoculars/binoculars instead of an outdated gen-1 DC powered Russian fisheye NVG's. But goddamnit I want a pair or two, and I can't seem to find any for reasonable prices

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>>30603415

The headband is kinda janky, I never got mine fitted right. I loosened the donut string on top and even after that it still feels like it sits high on my head.

>>30603428

If it were readily accessible, I'd say Karst. Otherwise French CCE might actually work OK there.

>>30603439
Uncle should get a kick out of that, seriously thanks! Was about to throw away, but im absolutely glad you told me.

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>>30603453
Thanks

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>>30603453
>>30603493

Mine has the same chinstrap, the shell I have is a Canadian military one, you might have one too.

>>30603165
Didn't know that, thanks anon!

>>30603464
Damn anon you nailed it, love that one in your pic. Thanks.

>>30603520
American helmet, Autrian liner, Canadian chinstrap?! I think i've got the franken helmet...

>>30603520
As far as I know the Canadian helmet shells are just US helmet shells, they never produced any M1 helmet copies.

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>>30603520
From what i've read, the RDF sound pretty badass. Why arent they talked about more often?

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>>30603619

Do you know if they did any mods with the liner/chinstrap? I bought mine directly from Canadian surplus stock.

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Since you guys are so smart, i guess i gotta use you why i can. Whats the top patch? Jacket is 69

>>30603680
Also how the fuck can i not have rotation happen? Goddamn i hate mobileposting

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>>30603658
From what I can see in your pictures, the chinstrap looks like the normal post-vienam style of US M1 helmet chinstrap anyway. The weave of the chincup is pretty obvious, the thread used is very thick and almost seems a little cheap, while on the other hand the chincup in >>30603493 uses a finer weave which is more like a standard webbing weave instead of the thicker weave used on the US ones.

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>>30603647

From what I've heard from vets they actually didn't do a whole lot. My friends' dad was RDF, 82nd Airborne M60 gunner, said he did nothing his whole service.
Can't say the same for all, but just what I've heard.

>>30603680

Can't say I've seen that one before, sorry. Sully might know whenever he comes back.

>>30603737

Yeah, it's definitely not as high quality as my K-pots' chinstrap.

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>>30598917
Or lmao 2 karst

>>30603188
But I heard everyone outside Amsterdam hates the juden, so it can;t be all bad.

Do you guys have any form of chat aside from 4chan an email with each other? Like slack, teamspeak, or discord? Watching you guys talk about milsurp out of /k/ would be interesting

>>30603869
A milsurp tinychat would be great cause then we could see how many were here.

>>30603869
That wounds really boring.

>>30603874
42 IPs ITT.

>>30603883
I mean present at one time. It would never work anyways since cant post pictchas
JUST SOMETHING WITHOUT CAPCHA

>Rebloggged onto a blog titled 'Homosexual Kink Factory'

That's funny on many levels. I guess they love some S2000.

>>30603880
Ya never know until ya make it! I unno the three main options I see is irc, slack, and discord.

irc: anonymity!
slack: Invite only and has excellent server management
Discord: Like Slack with voice chat, less admin functionality, and invite links are accessible to everyone

>>30604001
Discord: invite links accessible to everyone if given out*

What is the best way to get rid of some of my extra uniforms?

I have NWUs that are just taking up space.

>>30597669
Svenskdjævel!

>>30604010
Blueberries or the other Navy camouflage?

Size?

>>30604001
Sounds not too bad with irc

No voice only pictures, place to talk via text and ways to tell from eachother. No captcha either, fuck that shit.

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When buy stuff off ebay, especially from other non-english speaking euro countries, how can I be sure I'm getting genuine mislurp an not repoduction stuff? trying to get a Olive German BW parka but I'm not sure I can find genuine stuff in my size and they never answer back my questions/request for pics.

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>>30597363
N-no!

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There's a severe lack of anything slavic in this thread so far

>>30598710
>>30598725
my girlfriend lives in amsterdam. should i send her to althena surplus to buy me some nice dutch things?

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This thing is fun to wear

Wish I had one of the NVG ones.
Might get a Polish one in the future, maybe one of those Wz. 93 camoed ones.

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>>30604622
do you actually wear this as a hat or headwearout and about?

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>>30604600
Finally, i can post pictures. Heres all my ERDL, been waiting weeks for this.

>>30604774
Where'd you get it? Original or repro?

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>>30604774

Nod bad :DDDD

>>30597315
Noice

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>>30604777
Everything real, 2 nam era ERDL's 1969, one 1977 RDF then 78, 79 which gas airborne-ranger patch and a 1980 RDF jacket. Got 1968 ERDL pantalones small-long but they are like bell bottoms and dont have drawcords :( really want full brown dom jacket, but ill settle for one with green sleeves. Why the hell did we get rid of slant pocket and long bodied jackets? Kinda disappointing.

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Also, does someone know if this jumpsuit has any significance? Tag reads "AViD"

>>30604038
äru ute efter slagsmål elle?

>>30603428
Sumrak would work fairly well

>>30605332
Ja selvfolgeligt!

>>30603188
>I've only visited the big city's

>>30604602
i'll pick her up

>>30605545
Absolutely what the shit.Nice!

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We're off to go camping.

What Camoflage do US forces (Army and Marines) use for Jungle / Pacific terrains? At the moment are they just going to use the Multicam/Scorpion pattern and the standard MARPAT?

>>30606732
Yes/

>>30606807
Wouldn't multi cam look shit in a pacific jungle?

>>30606820
Yes.

>>30606851
Give this to Fudge.

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>>30607329

>>30606405
hoho

>>30604578
chances are slim you get a repro BW parka

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Just got this brand new Estonian TTsKO set. It's an obscure transitional version from the early 00s with three rank straps (traditional shoulder straps + one on the chest) and a button-on tab for the unit patch (an attempt at making the insignia easier to remove/replace).

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>>30604622
Your skin is snowman skin welcome my friend.

>>30605545
That's noice lizard camo.

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>>30604592
>:-(

>>30606619
Don't tell me you're eyeing that...

>>30604578
>signs of use (fading, scratches on metal buttons, etc)
>smells old
>original markings & tags
>correct cut/fabric/coloration

Is there a way to measure the firing pin depth on a Mosin without the bolt tool? Can I use calipers or something similar to get between the .075"-.095" range, or is that not recommended?

>>30607830
Why not just mark the firing pin at the bolt face and then remove and measure it?

>>30604578
http://www.militaryclothing.com/German-Army-Bundeswehr-Parka-OLIVE-DRAB.aspx

>>30603188

I can carry a belt knife into a store and no one would bat an eye. Get out out of the city.

>>30595138
Try militaria4you in Zutphen, great selection and a bro-tier owner

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I found this jacket that I think is RDF ERDL, but I'm not sure. It's dated to 1981, has a USMC stamp, and the pattern looks too small to be woodland. Should I get it?

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I went here today.

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I saw some Slovenian, German, Canadian, British, French, and Czech camo on people walking around and some neat pictures on the wall.

>>30596754
dat DCU Night camo jacket.....
HNNNNNNNG

>>30607440
Ey some guy in the camo and uniform collector facebook group is asking about Eesti gear.

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We posting M1s?

So should I get some Swedish M90 BDUs?

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>>30609795
Here's your chance to shill for me.

>>30609850
Of coursch!

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>>30609850
The fuck are those? Marlboro 150's?

>>30609870
Alrighty.

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>>30609874
Not sure but they came in a C-ration accessory kit

>>30609930
>not lucky strikes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>30610013
It's not easy or cheap getting specific brands of cigarettes from the accessory kits so I just go for the sealed ones on ebay. Problem with that is lucky stikes are one of the rarer brands to find so fuck 'em.

>>30597195
I bought myself a pair last week. I'm excited to try them on. Being tiny is a blessing and a curse.

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French desert shirt and Russian air force TTsKO jacket arrived today, pics tomorrow

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>3rd week in Mexico
>still no luck finding surp
Fuck this I wanna go home

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>>30595481
What? I thought GP-5's were the exception. They don't really have any asbestos in them last time I remember.

>>30612178
They don't. But fear mongering tends to convince people they do.

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New arrivals as of today. (1/2)

I can see myself wearing this one a lot this summer.

>>30612178
>>30612216
Enjoy mesothelioma

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(2/2) This finally fucking came, after 2 months of waiting.

It was worth it, the thing is fucking amazing I just wish the waistline was a bit higher. From the pic it seemed to have a bomber cut. Oh well

>>30612323
Can you at least give evidence? What I've been finding is that all Pre-WWII gasmasks use asbestos and some WWII masks use it too, but GP-5's are safe

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>>30612399
They're safe, don't get your panties in a bunch. If you're really scared then just don't use them.

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>>30612399
I've heard people claim GP-5's are safe before, but I've never heard someone say they were the exception to the asbestos rule. Gas masks can also have chromium and other poisonous shit.

Do you really trust the ww2-era soviets not to do something like that?

>>30612433
You're an idiot if you actually did that in your house.

>>30611207
I know that place fucking sucks in all areas.

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>>30612469
That image is so outdated and incorrect. Hell, that's not even an EO-65-K in that image. And the GP-5 is not WW2 era and neither is the EO-65-K or the EO-16 filters.

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>>30612532
You do realize that white shit looks just like asbestos.

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>>30612569
It looks more like cotton padding than asbestos.

>>30612433
I'm scared, but I'll use them- better than the chemicals coming from the landfill

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>>30612628
Whatever man, it's your life. You wanna risk losing 30 or 40 years because you were too cheap to pay $10 for an Israeli filter, that's on you.

>>30612677
http://shop.brownells.com/emergency-survival-gear/first-aid/first-aid-supplies/gas-mask-filter-sku100015819-71438-151455.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-100-015-819&gclid=CKqJi4fo8c0CFQqKaQodMJMGrw

>>30612683
That looks like the filter I just got from a buddy! I'll see if I can get a picture, but I have two types, one is the original east german large filter that came in the bag, and the one i got from my buddy

>>30611207
Pretty sure its illegal to sell it there. Think they burn everything when you leave the military.

>>30604592
that gun is a fugly piece of shit

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>>30613114
At least it's something I'd think. Better some AK than no AK I say. Too bad I'm no AK. feels bad man

>>30605434
thanks senpai

>>30604578
These are so cheap to buy that no one bothers with reproing them.

That being said the Kommandostore has genuine ones.

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>>30612399
>>30612433
>>30612469

They do have some, nothing serious as long as the cotton seals and edges are intact and non-corroded/broken/punctured.

>http://www.mesothelioma.com/news/2013/10/popular-military-surplus-gas-mask-used-for-halloween-contains-deadly-asbestos.htm

I have one and wear it with the filter occasionally.

>>30604592
Looks like a FB Tantal had a baby with a Ak-107.

>>30613759
>only source to Dixon Information is just a 404 on a news site
http://kutv.com/error#notFound=/features/local/stories/vid_5129.shtml
What a crock of shit.