Knife or Bayonet?

>>30594876
Depends, most older bayonets aren't sharp, but with a 1897 or mosin or something, you have a spear as well. But an m-4 bayonet is pretty good.

>>30594876
>What would be more useful in combat?

I feel like your utter lack of common sense doesn't warrant a reply but whatever I'm bored.

Which would you prefer in combat; a three inch piece of metal at the end of your hand, or a foot long piece of metal and the end of a three foot gun?

depends if you're better with knife fighting techniques or bayonet. there to many variables to say which is better. depends from material, design, personal abilities, context of contact.

>>30595115

Knife is more natural to use and does not require as much training as bayonet. When it comes to actual combat use in nowadays, both bayonet- and knife-fighting are small niches for which most armies do not bother spending any real resources for very good reasons.

Good utility knife will do the trick and if extremely rare occasion for needing to use a knife/bayonet appears it will suffice.

>>30594876

In combat? In the one in a thousand million chance you ever get into a CLOSE QUARTERS BATTLE REMEMBER THE BASICS OF CQC!! an actual knife would be better.

If your enemy is THAT CLOSE that you can't shoot him with a rifle, there's no way you will be able to stab him with a bayonet. You would want a knife in a sheathe you could pull and stab him in a grapple.

Now, yes, you could do that with a bayonet as it is just a knife with an attachment point, but: bayonets SUUUUCK. They have shit steel, they have shit geometry, they are too short, their sheathes suck an ass. Better to have an all around utility knife that can baton wood or other tasks effectively. Any situation in which you could stab someone with a blade on your rifle you could just stab them with bullets and be done with it.

>>30594876
a bayonet IS A KNIFE....
I have a buddy who stabbed a guy to death with his bayonet in Iraq,...IDK if it was attached to his rifle at the time...but I assume it was.

>>30595507
That buddy is probably lying

>>30595013
>a three inch piece of metal at the end of your hand, or a foot long piece of metal and the end of a three foot gun?

Its not 1917 anymore grandpa. Bayonets these days give you maybe 8" at the end of the rifle and the most the bayonet could hope for in life is being a utility knife.

>>30595412
A bayonet ON A GUN is a far superior weapon simply for the fact that is has reach, at every (equal) level of training.
>>30595486
If you're too close to shoot or stab with the bayonet you'd best hit him with the butt of the rifle, then go back to stabbing. If you can't do even that, pulling a knife will likely not save you either because you're probably shanked already. Also, a bayonet is is useful when your ammo is out, rifle malfunctioned, whatever.

>>30594876
A bayonet can do all the things a knife can do plus be fixed to the end of a rifle. So why not a bayonet?

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>>30594876
>Knife or Bayonet?
Why not both? The RK 62 bayonet has the same blade as Sissipuukko. Only the tip is a bit different.

>>30595720
>A bayonet ON A GUN is a far superior weapon simply for the fact that is has reach

This, a folding knife will do most of the actual knife related tasks day to day but a on the end of a rifle would be better than a knife alone

The m7 or okc3s would also make for pretty good fighting knives so I really don't see the issue