Prototype thread

>>30588005
Techically the AK47 is a pyrotype while production version isn't.

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>>30588005

Don't mind me, just being the superior plane.

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>>30588108
spot the changes

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>>30588005
The MMEV, basically an anti-everything LAV III. Got cancelled because reasons.

>>30589166
Wheels. They wanted tracks, it was wheeled. Huge fight over wheels vs. tracks. It lost out.

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>>30589166
Goddammit, Canadia. Stop trying to make multirole IFV a thing. It's not going to happen

>>30592045
Why didn't it catch on?

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Bf 109 made out of plywood

>>30594438

Drones.

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>>30588005

the israelis had one as well, i don't remember the name of that plane , but was a copycat of a f 16

>>30592120
FUCK the USN. The F8U was much more superior than the F-4
>>30592134
I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD, DON'T EVEN BRING UP THE F-23 VS F-22 DEBACLE

>>30589166
>Rockets
>TOW
>AA
>And a coax because why not
I love it.

>>30591695
fuck the air force, they are the only reason that wasn't a thing and it was because they whined loud enough about "muh CAS role should be AF only".

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>Cessna tries to build a COIN to replace the A-10

>>30589166
I just looked at the full-sized picture. It's a Photoshop mockup worse than the early Armata stuff. I can't tell if they even moved past the chassis for tests.

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>>30595834
This one?

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I always find the YF-22 sexier than the F-22

>>30596671
>MUH INLETS

Pretty funny to see how much it looks like the PAK-FA in this configuration.

>>30588085
>>30588005
wtf crimson skies plane's actually existed

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Probably one of the most obscure aircraft ever - the PN-3.
It was intended to be the Estonian Air Force's mainstay, but never made it into production due to the Soviets annexing Estonia in 1940.
The reds had no use for the prototype and used it for target practice.

>>30594438

Because of >>30594464 being cheaper with less risk to expensive pilots.

Also the Cold War ended and the primary job of the Comanche was to infiltrate defended airspace and knock out radars and AA positions so that the Apache's could molest the Red Army's tanks in relative safety. That role no longer exists realistically. The reasons for the manned chopper is in flight flexibility, against a third world Army with shitty or no air defense at all, the Commanche is a less effective and more expensive tool than an Apache.

The tech developed for it did get used though, thats where those Stealthified blackhawks they used to infiltrate Pakistan and kill Bin Ladan came from.

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>>30596667

>>30596875
How did they they stealthifie the blackhawks?

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>>30596939
This image is admittedly from the movie about the raid, but it's probably quite close to the real thing.

basically the applied to stuff learned on the Commanche about making a helo Visually and Audiologically difficult to detect and reducing it radar cross section to build a variant of the blackhawk which can successfully penetrate monitored airspace undetected, this vartient was used to invade pakistan undetected and do a smash and grab raid on Osama Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, pakistan, less than a mile from Pakistans military Academy.

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>>30596939
>>30597341
This image is from the morning after the raid, the tail section of one of the "Silent Hawk"s that broke off when it crash landed in the compounds courtyard.

According to official record Osama was killed rather than captured in the raid as he went for a rifle by his bed, but no affirmative proof was ever offered. They bagged the body and gave him a "Proper muslim burial at sea" which is laughable because muslim's do no provide for burials at sea. The reality is they kicked in his door shot him and then fed him to the sharks in the Indian Ocean to prevent his grave from becoming a holy site for radical Islamists. I have no issue with that and think it is probably the best way that issue could have been solved.

Look up "Operation Neptune Spear" for more info.

>>30594742
one could only deam

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>>30596641

May still be a mockup, but at least it's a tangible mockup rather than photoshop.

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>>30598208

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The Object-195. It has one massive turret.

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>>30598407
One turret? Get on my level.

Vickers Independent. FIVE turrets.

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Waco S3HD, 400HP Multipurpose Military Biplane. Only one built.

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>>30598433
WE MUST GO BIGGER

>>30598492
that one was never real though.

>>30598525
There was at least one made or half done before it was dropped

>>30598666
Sauce? Because everything I've ever read says it's bullshit.

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>>30588005
>Protopipe thread

Wow man, this is like,..
I don't even know man,...
its just,... like totally freaky man,...
I'm tokin' on this killer ganja ya know,..
and then like,...
then this thread was here?,...
and,.. oh shit man
whoah this is just too much

>>30598684
Its one of those wierd soviet things where nobody, not even russia is exactly sure how far along it got.

Some people think it was from start to finish a counter intelligence scam to convince hitler to waste more resources on pointless wonder weapons instead of tried and proven weapons and that the program literally only existed in fake documents intentionally allowed to fall into german hands.

Others claim that a prototype was started with many different claims regarding the level of completion ranging from just starting to weld a hull all the way to claims that a working model was built but that it tipped iself over when firing broadside, and that it sunk into the permafrost due to weight and is buried somewhere in siberia. The latter theorist claim the program failed and was then turndd into a counter intel operation.

All these claims are based off of records that may or may not have been part of the counter intel forgery campaign to trick the nazis, and nobody is 100% certain how far along the project actually got or if the entire thing was fake.

>>30597341
That looks like something out of an 80s scifi movie

>>30599237

Too bad Russians kept such shit records. If the Germans had tried to build it there would be extensive records on everything including the content of the factory worker's shits that they took at the end of their shift.

The fact that Hans ate corn last night is essential to the survival of the Reich.

>>30599374
I dont know whos dumber, you or him.

>>30599237
>Its one of those wierd soviet things where nobody, not even russia is exactly sure how far along it got.

literally a meme by a modeller, this was never ever a thing, a bunch of model kits glued together thats all it ever was, anything else is just base level photoshop skills of other shit.

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>>30599504

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>>30599517

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>>30599527

>>30591659
It wasn't to be an IFV, it was made to be a mobile-AA and AT platform with a modular weapons system based on its assigned mission.

>ground defense role = Hellfires, CRV7 rockets, ADATS
>Air defense role = Sidewinders, AMRAAM's, ADATS

>>30598208
I came here to post this, my favourite aircraft of all time. Fuck the Americans and Labour for killing this and essentially killing the British aerospace industry.

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>>30599551

>>30588085
>Supposed to be maneuverable
>Higher wing loading than a P-47

>>30591459
They wanted it on the LAV III chassis for better mobility and to replace the M113-ADATS hybrid anon.

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>>30599610

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>>30599629

>>30589166
>Canada can create nice things but isn't allowed to play with them

America plz help, we want nice toys like you.

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>>30599649

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>>30599681

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>>30599698

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>>30599710

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The ugly duckling in the back is one of the most important aircraft of all time.

The one in front wouldn't exist without it.

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>>30599744

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>>30599749
>The one in front wouldn't exist without it.
I dont know how the universe would survive that.

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>>30599787

>>30592112
>>30592113
I wish to see this

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>>30599819

>>30599856
that muzzel

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>>30599856

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>>30599905

>>30599892
thats a Tankette chassis with an 57mm mounted on in, it desperately needs that recoil management.

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>>30599819
>that tracks belly
>expecting to get anywhere

>>30599943
thanks!

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>>30599943

>>30599951
it was kept intact as designed... to show how you don't design a tank

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>>30588085
Beat me to it.

I wish they kept the whole plane.

>>30599358
Does the F-35, F-22, Zumwalt, Sea Shadow, and Commanche.

Stealth has a shape and that shape was inspired and first expressed in the F-117 Nighthawk, which also served as the inspiration for a LOT of 80s sci-fi.

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>>30600042

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>>30600029

>>30600053
there's one that was shipped here during the war and they're in the process of restoring it at the smithsonian

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>>30600071

>>30600042
>>30600067
very nice!

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>>30600067

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>>30600093

>>30598485
>We'll drive straight to Berlin Comrades!
Hits Vistula River
>Chyort

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>>30600115
not sure if this would count....

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>>30600141

>>30600071
where can i find this specimen?

>>30599504
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>>30599610
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>>30599710
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>>30599787
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>>30600029
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>>30600097

>world of tanks the thread

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>>30600181

>>30599614

There's more to maneuverability than wing loading and sustained turn rate.

Its real advantages would've been speed and armament.

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>>30600194

>>30600183
Musée des Blindés at Saumur, where you'll find most of the rare French tanks

>>30600186
well it is filled with obscure prototypes and blueprint vehicles

>>30599614
>>30600218
It's an interceptor, it's meant to have a high climb rate, like a Raiden on steroids.

>>30596614
that give me a boner

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>>30600258

>>30600258
thanks for Musée des Blindés at Saumur

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>>30600289

>>30600258
>Musée des Blindés at Saumur

Huh, I live 2 hours away from there. Might be worth visiting one day.

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>>30600302

>>30598080
why?

So it could use impromptu runways?

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>>30600325
kind of feel like throwing this in there.

>>30600320
well if you're interested in French armour, there is literally no where else in the world to see some of those tanks, they did some fairly major restoring of the Bat Chatillon25t recently, mostly thanks to the crowd pulled in by WoT.

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>>30600389

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A-4b V2 - A winged V2 missile.

By installing wings, the aim was to increase the V2's range by allowing it to 'glide' to the target

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>>30600418

>>30600372
Mostly for weight reasons, since rubber tires are some of the heaviest parts of the plane. The tracked landing gear was too noisy and didn't save enough weight, and ended up being scrapped

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UFO plane is best plane.

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>>30600448

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>>30600503

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>>30600577

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>>30600594

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Avro 707A - the 1/3 scale testbed for the Avro Vulcan

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Sack AS-6

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>>30600614
Handley Page HP.88 - 1/3 scale testbed for the Handley Page Victor

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>>30600610
something something rivers something something

I think Im running low on pics now

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>>30600753

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>>30592120
Father... I-I'm sorry I couldn't make your dream a reality

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>>30601092

>>30598761
That's a great pipe

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>>30601113

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>>30588005
I miss the Heinkel 219

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>>30601200

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>>30591695
I guess it was just too awesome for this world.

>>30588005
My favorite prototype: BF Skinner designed a pigeon homing device to bomb Japan during WW2. Unfortunately, the atomic bomb was developed during the same time and his triangulated pigeon strike wasn't properly met until the advent of the modern computer era.

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>>30601200
>FN definitively at the forefront of High Tech technologies
so that's what they call it

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>>30588062
They Type 1 and 2 were prototypes, that much is true. The Type 3 was a production version until it got replaced by the AKM in 59 or so.

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>>30588120
single seat vs 2 seat
winglets
E-model Phantom II has leading edge slats
tail

different engine nozzles?

>>30600927

Picture is of Tacit Blue and the YF-23

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>>30600289
MGS3 coming through

>Groznygrad

>>30601696
Thanks anon. I didn't know about it so this is very interesting to me.

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>>30588005
Sieg Pfeil!

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>>30603765
There is a decent chance the LRSB version flew. There were multiple reports of triangular planes about a year ago. Many think it could have been an LRSB flyoff.

>>30601290
God... it's beautiful...

>>30601290
Too bad no sound on this board, or I'd dub over the "Airwolf" theme so fast...

>>30592098

Is that like a bullpup/miniaturized mg-42 or something?

>>30592162

That looks just like a regular hornet though

>>30596648
killed by american butthurt that it might outjew their f-16 sales

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Hungary had a surprising number of interesting prototypes back then.

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>>30598208
RIP in peace.

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Siberian Greyhound bus service

>>30604238
American belt-fed version of the FG-42. A lot of the same design cues went into the creation of the M60.

>>30605438
>russia literally put a train on wheels
Wat

>>30594742
Too soon, anon ; ;

>>30605462
wat be dis

>>30605462
swedish?

>>30592120
>>30596359

Three missile max payload seems less than useful.

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>>30597341
Reminds me of the old UH-1 Penetrator.

>>30600536
I don't understand. There's zero forward visibility.

>>30599951
And the worst thing about it was that the only fucking thing they've had to do with Valentine was to give it short-bore 75mm/3inch gun and throw it on Japs they wouldn't have anything to counter it anyway.

>>30596693
It really doesn't.

>>30588005
I truely wonder how that plane would have performed.

>>30589166
>basically an anti-everything LAV III.
the m113 version is in service.

I was spose to be in service with the US too.

But we cancelled it in 90s 'cold war over' cuts.

its a really cool system

We should buy it and put it on whatever vehicle we want.

>>30600467
>too noisy

And that is an issue, why?

>>30606214
Supposedly it was either one of, if not the, fastest prop planes during the war. Reportedly a few of them outran any Allied planes that tried to chase them at the very end of the war.

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>>30598312
My grandfather worked on this project. He was the guy who took the technical drawings and made the models for the wind tunnel as well as prototype display.

We have a couple at my parents house still in my dad's office. One is just a carved shape of the aircraft and the other is a more detailed wind tunnel model.

I like the Avrocar better tho.

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Argentinian made Ta-183 it is a shame that the prototype is rusting in a shitty place, at least i have a good number of photos with it.

>>30605881

You see, Ivan. When you are of not being able to see, you will not be worrying about what I am of telling you to see.

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This glorious thing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23

>>30600479
What was it supposed to do, why didnt it?

>>30606534
Extremely short takeoffs, or basically VTOL from a moving carrier.

It didn't because of delays and jets.

>>30606556
It looks like it'd have a hard time landing safely.

>>30606573
It had windows on the lower side of the cockpit so the pilot could see down and straight ahead when landing at high angles of attack.

>>30606573
The reason we don't have UFO planes is because the military wanted jets, which is sensible. Why nobody tried to stick jet engines on the thing before giving up is anyone's guess, though some rumors say the military talked about how it would look for them to have a flying saucer shaped plane in the middle of the alien craze.

>>30606556
No.

>>30606694
They couldn't put jets in it because the entire design hinged on the use of propellers. The idea behind the XF5U was that you'd make its super low aspect-ratio wing viable by having the massive propellers on the wingtips spinning opposite the direction of the wingtip vorticies. In doing so, you end up artificially increasing the aspect ratio while still keeping the wing very small, meaning you'd (in theory) have very low drag.

The problem with the XF5U was that the design also required a very thick wing. Even though it was a viable design, it would have had a very short service life because of that thick wing. Its critical mach number was going to be very low, so it would have been quickly surpassed by newer designs optimized for high-speed flight.

>>30605677
Yes. FM1957.

>>30605881

The nose tilts downwards, similar to a concorde

>>30602108
SPRUCE GOOSE!

Seriously though, the thing is stupid huge. I've seen it in person, and it's just absurd.

>>30607601
I still want a flying saucer plane. It's the principle of the thing.

>>30596712
You'll find that most of the Crimson Skies planes were based on something prototyped or designed on paper, that's why it's so good!

>>30606264
>the m113 version is in service.

All were retired in 2012 with no replacement, the MMEV was supposed to be the replacement.

>>30597381
>which is laughable because muslim's do no provide for burials at sea

Yes it does. Fucking two seconds on Google would have made you not sound like a moron.

>>30606330
So you can hear those sick props uninterrupted