If shit hit the fan.

>>30580794
A handgun in shtf is going to be more useful than a rifle, id rather be armed at all times with a small, concealable gun than lug around a rifle that makes you a target. A rifle is definitely a good gun to have if you already have a handgun but wouldn't be my choice if I could only have one gun.

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>>30580794

My PTR

>>30580818
But in a lot of pistols you don't get the stopping power that comes with a rifle, also if you need to shoot at long range a pistol is pretty shit. I understand where you come from, pistols would definitely seem like the go to but I think a good rifle is a lot more versatile.

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>>30580794
>If shit hit the fan. Anonymous 07/11/16(Mon)02:37:13 No.305

>Reliable

is a AR.

>>30580794
OP here, also if you can post why you would take said weapon.

>>30580852
So you're saying AR's aren't reliable? Top kek. A well built AR will get through anything.

>>30580842
Won't argue about power, rifles are definitely superior. As for long range, not a primary concern for me, in shtf my primary concern would be to avoid gunfights. For that reason, a concealable close range defensive tool is more useful than a non concealable long range offensive tool.

>>30580841
>>30580854

I would take the ptr because it's the only semi-auto rifle I own other than a .22. Honestly, I would probably ditch it for an AR if I could, considering .308 is less common than 5.56 and the PTR weighs a ton.

>>30580818
Yep, 100% agreed with you here. Grab a Glock 19 and be set.

Remember OP, whichever weapon you have, if you aren't effectively avoiding conflict whenever possible it's only a matter of time until you catch return fire.

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>>30580841
Mah nigga

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There is a reason why /k/ has an /arg/ but not /FALG/

ARs are the single most popular SHTF rifle in the United States. If you're serious about being a patriot you should own the weapon that maximizes parts and ammunition compatibility with the Federal and State armed forces, as well as with other patriots. This means grabbing an AR.

>>30580877
But you can hunt with rifles as well, and use it as a long range melee tool as well, if you stick a knife on the end. But you could shoot deer from long range. Also, I would try to avoid gunfights as well but if there's a situation where you can't avoid one, I'd much rather have my rifle. Better for killing and taking out multiple targets. Personally I'd rather have a rifle to fight other rifles than a pistol to fight rifles.

None, am Calicuck.
I have a baseball bat, and I guess I could take up slinging again?

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>>30580794

>Ammo is freakin everywhere

Because real life is Fallout.

Remember post Sandy Hook, how there was absolutely zero .223/5.56x45 to be had anywhere. unless, of course, you wanted to spend a dollar or more a round. Reloading wasn't much of an option unless you already had a stockpile because bullets, primers, powder, and cases were gone too. In a SHTF scenario it will be vastly worse as people will kill for the bare necessities.

>>30580983
Who the fuck is gonna buy ammo in a SHTF scenario? I mean everywhere as in its the most common rifle ammo in the U.S. the police use 5.56, the military uses 5.56, and all AR owners have 5.56 in their house, pawn shops have 5.56, gun shops, etc..

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Get on my level

>>30581010
>I think all that ammo is just gonna be laying around for me alone to take
Nigga, in SHTF you can be damn sure just about everything is getting looted and horded before you can even blink, unless you want to try your luck in a firefight which should be avoided at all costs than you're gonna have a bad time finding anything

>>30581010

I wasn't saying you would be buying it, smart guy. I was saying if it was hard to impossible to acquire during a panic imagine how difficult it would be to obtain in a world where everything is now scarce. Nobody is just going to let you have anything.

>>30581035
If you happen to stumble upon a police car that has not been looted are you more likely going to find 5.56 in there? Yes, yes you are. If you walk into a potential gun owners former house, is there a good chance you will find 5.56? Yes. Literally every single police vehicle has 5.56. I'm not saying you're going to find it everywhere, or its just going to be laying there. What I'm saying is that if you do find any type of ammo, there is a pretty decent chance it's going to be 5.56. If you can't see that, you're an idiot.

>>30581080
>If you happen to stumble upon a police car that has not been looted
What the fuck kind of fantasy world do you live in where you're the only fucking person who survived SHTF?

>>30581089
No you cock stain, you're missing the point. Yeah grab a fucking AK and run out of ammo and see just how much ammo you will find. What I'm saying is that 5.56 is the most common rifle ammo in the U.S. so If, IF, you find any ammo at all you have a decent shot at it being 5.56. If you engage in a gunfight and the enemy also have rifles, it's a good fucking chance they are using 5.56. You can't deny 5.56 is common, so factually you are more than likely to find that ammo.

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>>30581089

It is a pretty common delusion. Plenty of pasty doughboys think they'll be an instant badass as soon as things go south. They're just waiting for their chance to shine.

>>30580818
if society falls apart what the fuck are you going to be doing where you are walking around with a pistol? if you have no property or preps to defend, youll need a backpack to carry all your shit to be nomadic. you will get shot from out of pistol range by a guy with a rifle for wearing a pack and not looking capable of defending yourself especially if you are alone. if you are thinking youll need a pistol to walk down to UN food distribution point, youll get patted down for weapons when you get there because guys will be actively sniping those same government forces and you could very well be an enemy to them. a pistol has a role but if you choose one over a rifle you are beyond retarded.

>>30580794
I'd wait it out being real /cozy/ in /k/ mansion.

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I have no modern rifles, what is the best SHTF rifle I can get for around $2500? Pic Related?

>>30581128
I would argue it depends mostly on how shtf.
SHTF with invading army into the US so there is a common enemy? A rifle.
SHTF because of a giant hurricane knocked out power? A pistol.
SHTF because mass riots and I'm defending my home/shop? Rifle.
SHTF because someone in breaking into my house? Pistol.
You are beyond retarded if you think a rifle is the obvious choice instead of thinking that a event specific choice would be better.
It's too open ended to pick a side without exception like you are.

>>30581033
>no suppressor
1/10 wnow

>>30580869
>A well built AR will get through anything.
This statement is true...
The problem is finding a well-built one.

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>>30581166

>H&K: Because even in the post-apocalypse you need to look down your nose at plebs

>>30581224
You build it yourself then.

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It'd be a tossup between these two fuckers

- SLR-107FR with US Palm grip and ALG AK trigger

-AR homebuild with BCM BFH upper/bcg (chromed), Aero lower, Magpul furniture, Stag LPK and buffer tube assembly, and Geissele SSA-E trigger

I still need optics for these things, but they both have plenty of mags and ammo. Both would make excellent all purpose ward-off-the-bullshit rifles.