AR Thread / arg / Center for Tripfag Control

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>>30580768
Just posted it for first time near end of last thread

Rate babbys first AR/first AR build

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>>30580768
In

>>30580792
50 shades of FDE/10

>>30580768
Fuck off

This is an AK bored

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>>30580768
>>30580691
Yeah man seriously. The aesthetic is solid.
Is that the Vortex Venom? Nice and small. The K2 Do you have flip up sights? If you get some might I suggest the MBUS PROs? They have a very low profile so won't mess up your rifle's lines much.

Flip your pictures man. They'll be more enjoyable to view that way. Also Lancers are the best. I need more. How do you like that stock?

>>30580698
We're trying to combat the knee-jerk reactions. My father taught me to be skeptical.

It is crazy seeing your shots, seriously DR8COs look a lot like yours. It has a very clean and realistic feeling. Hard to describe. I don't know anything about photography.

Not me in the picture. Guy I met while hiking.

I don't trust The Justice Department.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/obama-administration-and-un-announce-global-police-force-to-fight-extremism-in-u-s/

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/launch-strong-cities-network-strengthen-community-resilience-against-violent-extremism

>>30580768
>letting lizerd make threads

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>>30580792
Needs BUIS/10

I like the handguard though

>>30580793
Do I need to say it?


The pictures don't quite capture it, but there is some FDE to this handguard. Maybe I'll take some pics in the grass tomato to show it off

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In for the wait that feels like a lifetime for my Rainier billet lower.
>NO
>ROLL
>PINS

>>30580768
>>30580698
>>30580715
Probably some of the "cringiest" things I've seen posted in /arg/ before.

>>30580810
>thinking is cringey
>just go with the flow, don't think

k

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>>30580805
>bored

>>30580807
Anons consistently fuck up making the new thread, like 75% of the time. I make the editions in an unbiased, non asshole way so fuck off

>>30580810
No roll pins?

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>>30580806
I was out hiking and ran into that guy along with some of his friends. They gave me beer and then we jumped off of a 20 foot cliff into a lake. Good times.

Old roomate's little brother. I introduced him to guns and shooting. He's a good kid.

>>30580821
relax lizzurd im just dogging you

>>30580809
it sho do

I want PRI full hooded front

May get stolen valor rear

>let's be real it will just end up mbus

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>>30580824
You seem like a cool dude

>>30580827
Okay, I'll bring it down to a 2.

>>30580831
Hey man, mbus are fine.

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>>30580820
For some reason a healthy dose of skepticism and intellectualism has become indicative of being autistic. It really is a shame.

The "race war nao" types honestly depress me.

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>>30580843
You should move out to Colorado. I promise it is better man. Lots of wildlife, I think.

I didn't realize you had a 20"
Is it an ArmaLite?

>>30580831
Whichever back up sights you go with, get the lowest profile ones that you can. Also please post a rotated version of your rifle.

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If I wanted to build my first AR in this style, could I obtain it for less than just buying one of a similar quality?

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IS the SR-15 worth the premium cost and why?

Also, what barrel length would you get?

>>30580864
gun laws there don't seem much better sadly

>is it an armalite
It's a 22 ;_;

>>30580802
>>30580792
Wannabe-SCAR /10

It looks functional enough but you really need BUIS on there.

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>>30580820
It's not that. It's how hard you're trying to look smart.

>>30580821
The Rainier billet lower (and maybe their forged ones I'm not sure) doesn't use roll pins. It has all set screws instead. It's fucking marvelous.
https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-ultramatch-billet-ambi-lower-receiver-mod-3-w-o-qd

I think MEGA's billet lower is the same way.

>>30580864
It's not that; it's the fact that he went out of his way to make himself look smart. Skepticism is fine and obviously so it being an intellectual. But real intellectual's don't go around saying that they are intellectual; they just are.
If neither of you see nothing wrong with "it's always refreshing to see a fellow thinker in a world of reactionary zombies" I don't know what to say.
>Us smart guys huh!

>>30580864
it's a self regulating system. associate something you want to suppress with something stigmatic and voila the people will regulate themselves.

>>30580908
>it's the fact that he went out of his way to make himself look smart
you need to do some learning about nvc. that's called a value judgment and isn't objectively true.

How much should I budget into my AR15? I'm looking to build a good rifle, something that I can be proud to own, as well as being reliable and accurate. Obviously I'm not looking to buy Gucci and boutique parts, just solid, good components.

I already have a MEGA stripped lower. I was thinking BCM 16" complete upper, Geissele SSA trigger. No idea who to go to for a LPK sans grip and trigger. Are these good choices?

>>30580926
Now you're just bringing up irrelevant shit trying to seem smart. What kind of discussion could be started with "it's always refreshing to see a fellow thinker" other than to jerk yourself/each other off about how "intellectual" you are?

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>>30580896
You're kidding right?
You're about to have background checks in order to buy ammunition, not to mention that magazines with greater than 10 round capacity are completely banned. The law literally says:
1) Remove the large-capacity magazine from the state.
(2) Prior to July 1, 2017, sell the large-capacity magazine to a licensed firearms dealer.
(3) Destroy the large-capacity magazine.
(4) Surrender the large-capacity magazine to a law enforcement agency for destruction.

The gun laws are much better in Colorado. CCWs are shall issue in every county, and we have open carry.

It blows my mind that true firearms enthusiasts and supporters of the 2nd amendment can still reside in California. The laws are only going to get worse there. Where are your values?

>>30580908
You're smart too! It is refreshing to see in a fellow gun owner.
More fun when you're in on it right?

>>30580926
Now I know why you can take high quality pictures.

This was taken by a friend on mine on his new mirrorless.

>>30580949
your assessment of why I said what I said is not true. you've been conditioned to think this way. I don't care about your feelings. get over it crybaby.

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>Likely getting rail tomorrow
>2 alternative sites bookmarked with MI's two-piece FF quadrial in stock, none of this "wait 3 days to find out if we even have it" bullshit from MI itself
I'm ready.

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>>30580967
Didn't you guys have a bullshit mag capacity thing pass not too long ago?

That's how it starts and by the time I get to leave her who knows what it will look like there dude

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>>30580949
I get a feeling that you're just bummed about being left out of the mutual JO

Come join the fun. We can talk about global political philosophy and the issues inherent with an unbacked currency.

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>>30580968
My feelings aren't hurt, trust me.

>you've been conditioned to think this way
We get it dude. You're a special snowflake and you're so intelligent, just look at your vocabulary. What a smart guy. What do you score on those online IQ tests champ?

>>30580979
Actual curiosity, why quad rails and not Keymod/M-LOK? You just like the aesthetics?

>>30580986
Sounds like a thrilling time but I'll have to pass, I'm simply not as smart as you true intellectuals.

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>>30580984
Mags above 15 rounds cannot be bought or sold within the state. That isn't stopping anyone though because the police don't enforce it and the grandfather clause is very loose.

You literally have to turn over your property to the government, and it isn't just any property, it is the property necessary to keep the government from demanding even more property. Get it?

Cute doggo by the way. Looks very happy. Doggo would be happier if you moved out of California to a state where you had the capacity to defend his life from the ATF.

>>30581009
>We get it dude. You're a special snowflake and you're so intelligent

I don't know why you're so burgers about people talking a certain way. like other dude said you're smart too. no one is discluding you. that's your issue, not ours. getting mad because you've signed an assessment is pointless.

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>>30581009
He is going for a M4gery aesthetic I believe.
>Don't be pouty

>>30581011

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>>30581011
>doggo is a her

While I get and agree with what you're saying, I can't leave here at this exact time.
Also, most of these cuck laws are not enforced here either unless they are charges added to some dirtbags rap sheet

I'm most seriously considering WA but my wife has family is CO so maybe that's an option

>>30581021
>no one is discluding you. that's your issue, not ours
I don't really get why you're talking about including anyone. There's nothing to be included in, unless you mean your circlejerk of self-proclaimed intellectualism and free thinking.

But yeah, keep stroking your own dick because you're such a free thinker and you're so opposite of the normal crowd. Go you, buddy. We're all so proud.

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>>30581050
>posts wrong picture

But yeah dude, I know shits fucked here man.

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>>30581050
She'll be happier if she knows she's safe from tyrannical dog killers in a free state.

WA is already lost to the leftist agenda. CO still has a fighting chance.

>>30581051
Sleep tight man.

>>30581051
>and you're so opposite of the normal crowd
all this QQ'ing

no one made you feel this way but you kiddo.

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>>30581069
I dunno, WA just shot down some bs didn't they?

>>30580768
Is ar a meme?
Looking if I should buy it or an ak

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>>30581069
I am jelly of that WRX. I have a 95 Impreza and my brother has a 2010 narrowbody WRX hatch. He's probably trading it for a 2012 STI though.

>>30581078
I don't feel any particular way about the situation. My point is that 75% of the things you've said have been cringy. There's no feeling to it, I'm just letting you know.
I'll give it to you though, your pictures are nice.

>>30581098
>I'll give it to you though, your pictures are nice.
thank you, im using ancient gear, getting the most I can out of it

you really should watch a video about nvc.

>>30581114
>you really should watch a video about nvc.
Here we go again.

>>30581136
i'm starting to see why you got offended

oh well.

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>>30581098
Sweet dreams of the Rainier lower!

>>30581092
Don't rationalize it! Leave California man.

Six new laws infringing upon the natural right of self defense and self determination were signed into effect today. The once great state of California has taken yet another step in the direction of an Orwellian authoritarian government. If a total monopoly on the means of coercive force is held by the state, then it is impossible for the state to exists by the true consent of the governed.

It should be considered that since the 90's firearms homicides have been steadily declining in this country. When our government passes laws, it is important that we ask why, as opposed to asking why not. There is obviously a gun control agenda, and it is increasingly dubious as to whether its primary concern is the safety and lives of citizens, or the disarmament and political disenfranchisement of the population.

Senate Bill 1235 requires individuals to submit to a background check and be entered into a state database in order to purchase ammunition. Sellers of ammunition will be required to hold an ammunition vendor's license. All transfers of ammunition will be required to be recorded by the license holder with the purchaser's name, address, and phone number. This creates a statewide registry of citizens who have bought ammunition legally.

Senate Bill 1446 Is an outright ban on the possession of firearm magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds. There is no clause for grandfathering in magazines acquired before the ban. The law reads :
1) Remove the large-capacity magazine from the state.
(2) Prior to July 1, 2017, sell the large-capacity magazine to a licensed firearms dealer.
(3) Destroy the large-capacity magazine.
(4) Surrender the large-capacity magazine to a law enforcement agency for destruction.

>>30581168
Again, there's no offense. I just said something you said was cringey, and it still is.

I'm not interested in any communication theories, and I'm not sure where your almost religion-like obsession with nonviolent communication comes from.

>>30581182
I know senpai. I know it's bad but I can't leave just yet

Name some good manufacturers for hydraulic buffers.

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>>30581194
None. Embrace the sproing.

>>30581202
>>30581194
Oh woops, got that confused with the silent spring shit. My bad. Didn't even know hydraulic buffers were a thing.

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>>30581202
>next year -1
>not putting grease on the buffer spring

Scrub

Who here ready for Monday where Obama and the Democrats make a statement about guns

>>30581223
i'm starting to wonder if people who cheap out on buffer tube kits get shitty ass springs that are EXTRA noisy

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>>30581238
Well I'd assume the lower cost means lower quality parts so maybe

But srs, grease that buffer spring

>>30581255
aint me, i don't care about the sproing and i bought a COLT™ BRAND COLT™ kit

it's not that bad so i'm starting to wonder about other kits... i should get some springs and test it out. i'm willing to bet not all springs are the same if some people have issues with the noise

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>>30581255
>>30581264
I've always just assumed that the sproing was exaggerated. Mine is barely noticeable, and almost silent after greasing.
Are there actually AR's that people fire that have an extremely loud sproing?

>>30581269
yes, that's why i'm thinking there is a difference. my dad has an A2 stocked varminter from RRA that has insane sproing compared to my carbine. not sure if that's because of the rifle buffer in it or something else.

imma get some sproings and test it

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hi

Do you guys use grease or just oil on your ars? I've been using CLP mostly

>>30581281
saw ur guns in the other thread, not bad

>>30581286
>I've been using CLP mostly
same

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>>30581286
Lithium grease and hoppes 9

CLP strictly for cleaning and pissing off my friends

someone recommend me a good punch kit before I shit myself

>>30581298
>hoppes 9
please tell me you don't use this as a lube....

>>30581306
Lyman 4pc roll pin punch.

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>>30581309
They have more that bore cleaner dude..

>>30581325
yeah, i was hoping you didn't use the solvent as a lube

still why would you use hoppes when there are better choices out there? clp is actually quite effective

someone recommend me a good chest rig before I shit myself

>>30581331
I don't care for the extremely oily residue that CLP gets literally EVERYWHERE on everything.
I love it for cleaning but I don't need the exterior of my upper and lower to be slippery ya know?
Plus, the hoppes works well. I use mpro7 in a liquid (read: not spray) form when I run out and that works good too.

>>30581332
Anything condor :^)

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R8 my new AR build

>>30581347
>I don't care for the extremely oily residue that CLP gets literally EVERYWHERE on everything.
>I love it for cleaning but I don't need the exterior of my upper and lower to be slippery ya know?

>I use mpro7 in a liquid (read: not spray)

wait are you unaware that CLP comes in liquid form? how are you getting clp all over your receiver? do you have dick hands?

>>30581385
>ubl-37
>ubl
>usama bin laden
>usama bin grenade launchen

>>30581388
>do you have dick hands
Kek, it's extremely runny. At least the CLP we get here on the west coast is

>>30581385
>Needs more sights
>unused pic rails
9/10

>>30581399
you're using too much and not utilizing your fine motor skills then

do you know what parts of an AR to lube? i'm not being a dick, i'm seriously asking

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>>30580888
smoothest shooting AR I've shot so far, I love mine
Get mlok if you can, when I got mine it was 500 more for a mlok
pic related

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>>30581404
Don't worry, I will literally use all of them.

>>30581408
I follow this but only grease the rails on the BCG, not the bolt or anything. I also give the trigger a very light coating of oil.
This is all with hoppes oil

With CLP, I spray the trigger pocket and I disassemble and soak the BCG.
I keep it clean as fuck

>>30581423
Oh, and I do not lube my firing pin.

>>30581423
>I follow this but only grease the rails on the BCG, not the bolt or anything.
so you do lube the bolt right?

using grease on the bcg is kinda dumb, it needs to move as quickly as possible and viscous shit on the bearing surfaces can cause malfunctions especially with fully loaded mags and dirty uppers.

why not the firing pin btw?

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>>30581439
Yes I lube the bolt. I'm on a carbine gas so slowed cycling isn't a concern and has caused 0 malfunctions in something like 2k rounds.

No lube on the firing pin since it doesn't move far and gets coated in oil from other stuff anyways

>>30581451
word, the lube on the pin keeps carbon from sticking, it's exposed to a lot of carbon from the piston chamber since it passes right through the bolt tail.

that's my guess anyway

out of all the ar-15 systems, what is the most reliable? (I'm talking about LMT bolts n proprietary shit also)

>>30580768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROEV_6fdlI

Could I build a FAMAS lookalike? How would I go about doing so?

>>30581570
sharps reliabolts break on SBRs, they are a gimmick as far as I know

mil-spec probably

Should I be replacing my gas rings after every time I go out?
I don't even shoot 300 rounds, and then my gas rings fail the BCG standing on the bolt test.

How do you guys get 10,000 rounds consistently without changing your gas rings? Is it something I don't HAVE to change?

>>30581992
>I don't even shoot 300 rounds, and then my gas rings fail the BCG standing on the bolt tes
>How do you guys get 10,000 rounds consistently without changing your gas rings?

Maybe get a good BCG instead.

>>30581992
the test is goofy, don't worry about it.

worry about it when the gun stops functioning properly or the rings are physically malformed when you inspect them periodically

>>30581996
Is nickel boron the best?

>>30581992
My DPMS "commercial" spec bolt carrier group is the same way.

If it works don't worry about it.

Get a quality BCG when you can, though.

>>30582006

The finish is pretty much irrelevant. The material and QC are what matters.
But like >>30581997 says, the test doesn't really tell you much. My CMMG middy never passed the test since the moment I took it out of the box, and never malfunctioned once until the day I sold it.

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>>30582030
>>30581996


What's gonna be the difference with a quality BCG?
Is the boring of the carrier gonna be better to hold onto the gas rings of the bolt?
That's the only difference I would suspect, but I'm surely ignorant.

>>30582006
>>30582037

nickel borat is a meme, just get a standard phosphate bolt carrier group unless you want something fancy appearing and moderately easier to clean like cryptic proports to be.

>>30582037
>What's gonna be the difference with a quality BCG?

The bolt won't snap in half after 2k rounds, for one.
But it'll also be made to spec so it'll pass the test. Really though, don't worry about the test, it's about as important as "staggering the gaps 120° apart so that the gas doesn't leak if they line up" like my rifle's manual urged me to.

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in

>>30581069
>WA is already lost to the leftist agenda. CO still has a fighting chance.
lmaoing @ur lyf

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Arg I need wisdom, is there any benefit to a hydronic buffer? If yes what? And is there a hydraulic buffer that would work with my 20in rifle length gas/ buffer? I have no idea how buffer weights and gas lengths work together (what works together what doesn't).
> General education on gas system legth and buffer weight interaction would be great

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>>30580768
you should be banned from making editions

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>>30581281
i like your handgun

>>30582118
What are those called? Where the rail is real close to the barrel and not wide

>>30582194
Thin rails.

Tripfags kill yourselves. You've got the tools...

>>30582217
>You've got the tools...
and you don't

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in a shit thread

>>30582194
u wot

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>>30582253

you know, where the rail is real close to the barrel and not wide

>>30582253
>>30582273
probably means thin, small diameter rails

>>30582273
sometimes I just don't know

>>30582281
do those have a name outside of dd SLiM

>>30582302
kmr

>>30582320
but not all keymod rails are slim

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Can I get some advice on LPK and TCG?
Im waiting on a stamp for my 8.5" 5.56 AR upper from PSA. I just got a guntec pistol buffer and tube so I want to finish the lower now.
>Are drop in triggers real hotness?
PSA has a CMC single stage plus LPK for $216. Should I just buy a cheap budget kit to get the gun together and then upgrade along the way?
I see some cool bolt release and mag release buttons, but I'm not sure if that's for me or not. I don't even know here to go toook at em.

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>>30580887
Bought mine for 450$ plus a KAC RAS rail and case/shitty optic/sling/mags

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>>30580792

How do you like the optic? I've been considering putting one of those new Vortex micros on my Glock 19.

>>30582325
the kmr is

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>>30582600
Rate?

Theres not much to rate..

>>30582647

changed grip/10

Barrel and gas system don't match. Barrel profile is sub-optimal.

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>>30580768
I'm surprised I don't see more Hogue G10 grips on here. You can't tell me they aren't sexy af

>>30582665
What does barrel and gas system don't match mean? The barrel is stock so is the gas system?

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>>30582680
He's referring to the fact that carbine length gas systems were originally meant for 14.5 inch (or shorter) barrels.

>>30582680

The carbine length gas system is intended for 14.5" barrels (and even then it's often over gassed if the gas port isn't correctly drilled for that barrel length).

The barrel has a wasp waist and an M203 cut for a grenade launcher you'll never use. It's not particularly light or rigid.

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>>30582693
>>30582693

So its fucked up?
It's a CMMG all stock came from the factory with what ever size barrel, I havent done much research just yet.

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>>30582718
No, it's not fucked up, it will work just fine.

I have a 16 inch w/ carbine gas as well. Soon you'll realize that you want a 16 inch w/ mid length gas because it shoots softer and it looks more proportionate.

Long story short, your AR is fine.

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>>30582732
I'm really not concerned with it being a longer barrel, but more concerned that it's a fixed iron sight. I'm not a fan of absolute cowitness.

>>30582675
>You can't tell me they aren't sexy af

It looks like a spraypainted and half melted A2 grip.

>>30582744
Just get a taller mount. The fixed iron sight really doesn't matter with absolute vs lower 1/3rd cowitness

>>30582744
Then go lower 1\3.
Problem solved

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>>30582744
Yeah, you'll eventually want to build a gucci AR, but from what I've observed pretty much everyone goes through this evolution with their AR.

>buys first AR
>basic no frills rifle
>realizes it's not optimal
>starts to buy new parts for it
>eventually builds a new AR more suited to their tastes

Enjoy your basic rifle for now, though. I'm stuck in the "realizes it's not optimal" phase.

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>>30582764
>>30582766
i knew that was coming, i meant to say i'm not a fan of any cowitness. I don't particularly like seeing iron sights through an optic.

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Going shooting in a bit.

Going to see how the G trigger works.

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>>30582772
I built my pistol in my "hmm this isn't optimal" stage.
For me the pistol is almost solid, but it needs a light and a stamp.

My rifle is better, but I want to drop 2" off the barrel.

>>30582935
Rifle is fine, you need to get a magnified optic for it.

Does anyone know if SWFA's web store displays items that are out of stock? I purchased $300 worth of parts from them last night and they deposited $160 into my bank account this morning.

Hey guys, I'm looking to build an AR without shitting out a huge amount of money. I'd like to really save where I can and have a nice platform that has decent accuracy and will take most of the ammo I would feed through it.

Generally, what are some good guidelines to building an AR? (Sportsmansguide.com, cheaperthandirt.com, ar15.com, etc)
-What sites can you buy lowers and uppers from?
-Is it good to buy fully assembled uppers and lowers?
-How much can I expect to spend on the rifle itself before adding accessories like a scope or new stock?
-How do I go about registering my AR as a complete rifle? Or am I only required to register the lower receiver because it contains the firing mechanism?

I appreciate any help you guys can toss my way, it'd really help me out!

>>30583219

Sorry, I fucked up. Meant to put those sites after that first line.

>>30583219
>Is it good to buy fully assembled uppers and lowers?
Barrelled or Complete Uppers yes, lowers is unnecessary. They are easy to complete yourself with a lower and a kit.
>How much can I expect to spend?
$350 for super-budget, $500 for budget (what you should really expect to pay), $750 for gettin'there
>How do I register
In the US, you don't. The receiver is enough.

>>30580933
Yes those are good

I've got a question.
Can a Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot be used without a front sight?? As in no cowitness at all? Is this how it was designed to be used or was it supposed to be used with a front sight? If so, do I just slap it on my rifle and use the buttons on it to sight it in?

>>30583328
>Can a Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot be used without a front sight?? As in no cowitness at all?
yes

>Is this how it was designed to be used or was it supposed to be used with a front sight?
both

>If so, do I just slap it on my rifle and use the buttons on it to sight it in?
yes

>>30583375
If I sight in my irons, and get a cowitness mount for the red dot, can I just adjust the dot to be aligned with the sights for it to be sighted in?

>>30583393
Yes.

Which brand of aluminum mag does /k/ prefer? Or should I get SS?

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>>30583375
>>30583402
Thanks

>>30583393
thats how most people do it.

>>30582244
What grip?

So I milled my first %80 and my hammer is releasing on trigger reset. But if only if I let the trigger out slowly. How unsafe is this?

>>30583498
Sounds like you have a fucky LPK.

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Yeeee.

>>30583536
That's for sure, I already had to do fitting on the bolt catch and safety lever, guess I'm gonna have to do it on the sear too. It was a PSA Defender kit btw.

>>30583393
just consider this -- red dot without irons is not accurate (unless you're a bot). It's fine if you're shooting at a person-sized target within 20 yards, but if you're sniping at tin cans at 50 yards, better to pop up one of your irons for cowitness.

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>>30582776
>the HB AR
Good times.

wtf? no

>>30583166
I was thinking a 1-6x something, maybe Bushnell or pa.

>>30583448

B5

>>30583543
>mi
lame

Should I buy an assembled upper or the individual parts for my first build?

>>30583633
PA 1-8

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>tfw saw white Pmags for the first time

I couldn't help myself.

>>30583769
sand

>>30583727
complete upper

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>>30583789
They're white. Maybe a very slightly off white. Fix your eyes.

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>>30583823
Get a load of this guy

>>30583823
hes talking about the magpul designation. theyre sand. look on the back barcode

>>30583823
light shade of sand

https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag-40-ar-m4-gen-m3

Requesting pic of the A1 SPR build.
The stock and grip were black while the entire upper is camo.

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>tfw vise bench fits perfectly on shitty table
Wew lads just got a mag block and upper clamp today can finally build something

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>>30583823
have you ever seen play sand?
these mags are for play so they are play sand color.

>inb4 white sands military range

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>tfw no red sand desert to play in

>>30583746
>$1300

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Hey giddy is it true all beaners know each other?

Cuz I have a guy by the name of Jose Torres coming by to look at a fish I'm trying to get rid of and I just wanted you to tell me if he is cool or or

>>30583895
Rockwellian.

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>>30583940
polak

>>30583958
You're not a Mexican?

You're short, brown and lispy so I assumed, sorry

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>>30580768
Executive Ordnance grips are best grips

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>>30583972
>all short brown people are spics
roman warriors were 5'6" and as dark as me

>>30583958

I was wondering about the name. When did your family move to freedomland?

>>30583988
Yeah but Roman warriors don't tend to my grass and shit

>>30583990
ww2 to argentina then my parent to usa in the 80's

>>30583995
ok

>>30583988
So you were last relevant two thousand years ago?

M-Lok vs Keymod? Why?

>>30584049
MLock

because Geissele 4th of July sale was mostly MLock, so now everyone has one.

Finally! Cryptic Coatings is restocked on Mystic Black BCGs...

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>>30584049
Mlok because little dicks is gay

Are magpul str stocks fine? Or is there something better for the price?

Okay, now that M-Lok has been established between those two. Geissele vs KAC URXIII?

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>>30584049

mlok because dickmod is pic related

>>30584131
For the price? Eh, I personally like the CTR. My next stock will probably be a B5 Sopmod since I'm too cheap to go full LMT.

That said, the Sopmod and STR get compared a lot and I think most people just love one and dislike the other.

There's also the ACS-L too that would give you a compartment but no battery tubes.

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>>30584049
Keymod

Anyone who says anything else is lying

So anyone mind explaining the difference between M855 and M193? Wasn't M855 banned? Can you even still buy it? And how would I go about buying M193? Is it a specific ammo like the Military Grade 00 Buckshot? Do I walk into my LGS and ask if they have any M193 in stock?

>>30584144
geissele. unless you already have access to a kac nut tool.

>>30584101

fuck off I can't buy mine yet. you better not buy them out of stock you cunt

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>>30584049
Keymod so you don't look like a poorfag that bought blemished shit on sale. :^)

>>30584049
ris ii

>>30584237
That was my first option but I can't seem to find any in stock

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>>30584212
Heard you were talking shit, boy

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>>30584248
I heard you were posting pictures of shit. Seems to be the case. :^)

>>30584049
Keymod

>>30584271
;_;

>>30584246
which do you want
fsp and mk18 are available and not too expensive

>>30584311
>>30584292

literally everytime I come here you two faggots are shitting up this thread

get a job

>>30584248
>faglock
>not glorious Keymod master race

0/10

>>30584178
M193 is 55g FMJ.

M855 is 62g soft steel core FMJ.

M193 is what the AR15 was designed to shoot, and is a devastating load because of its terminal ballistics. It has the potential to fragment when at high velocitys and cause massive wounds.

M855 was essentially developed to reduce this fragmentation, because European NATO country's objected to using that sort of wounding charactistic in their new rounds.

The USA was "forced" to adopt M855(SS109) by NATO.

M855 is in many ways inferior to M193, and is NOT a penetrator round. The increased weight, and therefore slower speed actually negatively effects pennetration performance.

M855 is not banned, although there was a half assed attempt last year.

You can literally order M193 online, same with M855.

I do not recommend you buy any M855 for serious use.

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>>30584049
Keymod, because Mlok is stupid.
Square holes are stupid, harder to machine for no reason. Also keymod attachment is superior.

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>>30584311
I wanted the M4A1 RIS. I'm selling my upper to a friend and wanting something other than a FSP which I have now.

I'm kind of wondering how much of my gas block would be exposed with the MK18 with a middy gas system.

>>30584210
Kek. I only ordered one

>>30584178
M855 is only good for plinking, M193 can be good for plinking, home defense, and small game hunting.

>>30584336
i have a job, it's shitposting on here

>>30584371
yeah, m4 is hard to find, i want one too.

>>30584336
I've not worked since last Tuesday because I fucked up my neck. I can't normally shitpost all damn day

>>30584349
Anon stfu, m lok is literally the best mounting system in existence.

>>30584394
Where are you seeing the MK18? I might just go that route because who knows when we'll see more M4's?

Opinions on exposed gas blocks?

>>30584405
>because I fucked up my neck.
you can still get fucked in the ass with a sore neck, get back to work.

>>30584419
i saw some last week on arms list but i can't find any now.

exposed gas blocks are gross.

>>30584421
Kek. My neck isn't an injury I'm willing to risk repeating so I just took some time off.

>>30582194
That is a BCM KMR handguard.

>>30582675
hmmm that is pretty damn sexy

>>30584434
I guess I'll go back to looking for a good deal on Geissiele or KMR then. Although I did find a 13.5" Noveske NSR too.

>>30584356
>>30584393
Are they made by particular companies? Or is it one of those cases where multiple companies all make M193/855?

Also how is M193 good for home defense if it's FMJ? I thought FMJ is bad for defense, or is .223/5.56 the exception? So would JHP be pointless to get with an AR?

>>30584356
>M855 was essentially developed to reduce this fragmentation, because European NATO country's objected to using that sort of wounding charactistic in their new rounds.
>The USA was "forced" to adopt M855(SS109) by NATO.

That's a hilarious load of nonsense.

>>30584489
Tons of companies make both.

FMJ for HD is usually a bad idea, but 5.56 FMJ(M193) is usually going so fast at HD distances that it fragments and stays relatively contained in human targets.

Some people recommend bonded barrier blind ammo for HD, which I also don't really understand.

>>30584528
That's literally the only reason I can imagine the US adopting it.

Do you have a better one?

I can almost guarantee you the adoption was political, rather than based on factual evidence of the round being better.

What do you fags use for lower blocks?

>>30584583
the main requirement for m855 was to penetrate the side of a Russian steel helmet at 600m when fired out of the SAW

>>30584596
my lap

>>30584583

It was adopted to enhance the round's AP capabilities, especially at extended ranges. It was a poor choice, but NATO was getting really worried about body armor, they predicted WP starting to issue it to everyone (which never came even close to happening).

>>30584604
>one arbitrary, useless requirement outweighs all of the other detriments by adopting the new round

>the US at this time disparately wants NATO to standardize something

>>30584212
Guilty as charged.

But no ragrets

Muh 1 thousandth tolerance barrel nut I can't even get out of the hand guard

>>30584596
My girlfriend's black boyfriend's dick

>>30584596
Magpul bev block

>>30584646

At the time, it appeared there are no drawbacks aside from having to switch to a different twist rate to accomodate the 62gr ball and tracer ammo, and a slight accuracy loss at close to mid ranges.
Also, the impact on terminal effectiveness isn't nearly as bad out of 20" barrels.

>>30584706
That actually makes sense. I still don't believe it was the right choice.

>>30583988

People back then were generally malnourished so their growth was stunted

>>30584728

It wasn't.

As for penetration at reasonable ranges (i.e. not 500+ m), I no longer shoot M193 out of a 20" barrel at my steel targets, because it fucking *shreks* the hardened steel that regularly shrugs off steel core 54r out of an SVD, 7n6 out of a 74, steel core M43 and everything else I was throwing at it for years.

What do you guys think of handloaded Hornady 60 grain softpoint to stockpile as a do all round for the apocalypse?

i'll be shooting it out of a 16" 1:9

>>30584752
ok

>>30584596
Philip K Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

>mfw the rest of the grey furniture hasn't even shipped yet

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>>30584897

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>>30584897
Thanks for including the pic I selected, numoot

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>mfw helmet out for delivery today

I have the best gun on /arg/

>>30584998
School shooter detected

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>>30585029

Is mid length gas okay for 18" barrel?
Would that be under gassed or overgassed?

>>30585003
the only thing you dont have is proof. too bad. i believe you though

Can't decide if I want a 13 inch or 15 inch guys named lee mk8. Thinking of going for the 15 inch just because it's readily available.

What's a good place to get a complete upper? I'm cosidering a palmetto state stripped lower with a parts kit bundle with ctr magpul stock and now stocks. Not sure where to get the upper though ?

What's a good keymod QD cup? I'm looking at the Arisaka since I will get one of their scout mounts anyways. Mildly not sure since it is aluminum.

>>30585128
psa

>>30585139
Does everything I listed sound good? Also what about iron sights? Do they come with the upper or do I need to buy and if so what are some good ones?

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>>30585128
Any PSA premium upper will be fine but don't buy anything from their PTAC line

>>30585128
midway is cheaper and actually ships quickly

PSA is slow as fuck and more expensive. Fuck PSA and fuck the PSA shills.

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>>30585161
It's not shilling if the shit is actually good.
You don't come to a place where advice is given and get mad when everyone says the same thing you sperg lord


I do agree though, their shipping times are shit

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What AR variants are these?
Basic bitch A1 or something else?

>>30585062

It's fine. It's somewhat analogous to a 16" with a carbine length gas. If you want something softer shooting, I'd suggest getting one with a rifle length gas system or an adjustable gas block, which is my personal preference.

>>30585175

MidwayUSA is literally like $100-200 cheaper for the exact same quality

Only good thing to get at PSA is magazines in bulk

>>30585180
fuck off jew

>>30583869
Are you talking about the brown leaf upper

>>30584212
Where the Hell did you get that sexy-ass dust cover? Building an AR-15 of my own soon and I am quite interested.

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>>30585292
Tactical gear junkie.

>>30585292

lurk more newfag

OK so I'm going full-retard and building a 20-inch barrel upper. Can someone recommend me a 14" handguard?

Is something like this:
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/leapers-utg-pro-ar-15-super-slim-free-float-handguard-15-aluminum-black-finish-mtu019ss-4712274526211.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn
for $100

or this:
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/leapers-utg-pro-15-superslim-keymod-handguard-free-float-design-includes-two-rail-sections-aluminum-black-mtu019ssk-4717385550251.do?green=47B596A2-72A8-543E-0B93-2BD2E89AABAC
for $125 with keymod

Good enough or do I want to be looking at the more expensive stuff from Daniel Defense or BCM?

>>30585279
i think he is. the mk12

>>30585386
reee

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Wish me luck, got my LPK today

Letsegodermaine, hope that was you that just bought my quadrail.

yankee hill barrels.

g2g or maximum garbage?

>>30583896
New one is $380

>>30585751

how much did you sell it for

How about stag vs bcm ? Who make better complete upper bois

>>30585772
$95 + $10 S&H

>>30585857
bcm

>>30585751
rip letsgo

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>>30584049
Keymod, because open source stuff is always cooler.

>>30584356
Add this too the sticky!

>>30584640
That isn't what I heard. My understanding of M855 was that it was developed to penetrate barriers better than M193. Troops in the middle east were having a hard time shooting through mud huts and cinderblock walls, not to mention car windshields and the like. The steel core was added to aid in stabilization and penetrating power through these sorts of soft cover.

>>30584797
Where are you getting Hornady cheap enough to stockpile thousands of rounds?

>>30584913
Nice pistol man. Barrel length and caliber?

>>30584998
I want an AHC.

>>30585136
I've got the Impact Weapons Component one and I like it, plus it is made in Colorado.
Very low profile.

>>30585128
>>30585139
If you want to save some money consider a Hardened Arms. I've got two, and have put 1500 rounds through them combined with no problems and decent accuracy.

Check this out:
https://www.hardenedarms.com/ecProduct_444_27

$370 for a free float upper with Keymod rail, a BCG, and a charging handle. The barrel is 4150 Chromemoly melonited.

>>30585180
Are those IDF? If I don't get into grad school, and I can't get a job stateside, I'm moving to jewland.
Look at the butt on the strawberry blond. Fuck I need to hit the gym. Test is going up.

>>30585690
Good luck! It isn't that hard. Take your time and enjoy. Once it is over you're going to be itching to do another.

These junkies stole my car a while back and ripped out all my audio gear. Insurance was actually pretty good about replacing it. Supposedly my policy only covered $1000 in aftermarket theft or damage, but the third party audio equipment supplier insurance company somehow got me a smoking deal and shipped me around $1500 worth of stuff. The neglected to include the factory radio mounting brackets which the thieves took. Luckily there is a local Subaru repair place that also has used parts. Got some brackets for free.

>>30585899

not bad at all. I should sell my quad then.

>>30585926

MBT shipped today, ordered 16 days ago

>>30585946
Nice. Throw that alg pos in the trash

>>30585945
>Troops in the middle east were having a hard time shooting through mud huts and cinderblock walls
>The steel core was added to aid in stabilization and penetrating power through these sorts of soft cover

That's a pretty cool story, but the M855 has been standard issue for quite some time at that point.

>>30585945
Oh nice thank you for that gonna wait until the lower comes back in stock on PSA. Gonna have to get someone to get it for me though cause I'm not 21 I heard some guy got denied yesterday cause they though he was gonna make an SBR or something

>>30586000

trips of truth. probably going to give it to one of my normie AR friends and pick up a blem geissele for the other rifle next year. or maybe just another MBT

>MBT shipped before backordered MI rail

thats not how its supposed to work

>>30586040

that's called a Straw Purchase and is a felony for both you and the buyer. you probably just added to a list.

dumb fuck

>>30586040
A family member can gift it to you.

>>30586054
I called in a favor with mark, had it made fast for you. desu tho I'm going to have an mbt in my pistol and mk12

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>>30586074
>I called in a favor with mark, had it made fast for you.

thanks senpai. I'm going to get a SF M300 and sling for the Aero build first then eventually get a trigger. also need to order a pelican soon :^

>>30586097
Better get a bfg sling ya fag. buy two Pelicans and gib me one

>>30582680
>>30582718

don't worry about him he has aspergers.

carbine length gas system on a 16" is pretty fucking common. the dwell distance is literally only 1.5 inches longer than on 14.5 with the same gas system. it's not a big deal. the gas port aperture is also appropriately sized to the correct diameter for this extra dwell.

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>>30586112

MS4lyfe

maybe I will get a BFG actually, for some variety

>>30586134
Get the cobra buckle

>>30586146

if I do thats going on my accupower rifle for extra gucci

>>30586153
make sure to get it in some meme camo

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>>30586167

wolf grey?

>>30586199
I don't think they have wolf gray.

>>30586167
atacs fg for life

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>>30586224

THINK AGAIN

anyone here have a Pelican case for their AR?

I'm thinking about getting one but I don't want one that is more square shaped and not so long. I don't want the long one because then it's obvious there's a rifle in it. What dimensions do you think I would need? I saw an anon on here before who had a square one as well.

>>30586253

pelican 1700 is about 36" long.

>>30586146
Why would you want a cobra buckle on a sling?

>>30586281

do you even qd bro

>>30586241
my nigga. I need to get a shirt in it

>>30586251
Dumb color

>>30586287
That's what QD swivels are for.

>>30586281
qd for the qd senpai. max gucci

>>30586273

that's too long

>>30580768
This fucking thread is old.

What the!!! Man I hate /arg/ now

>>30586288

no ur dum

>>30586294

clearly you dont high speed low drag, pleb

>>30586301

i dunno m8 maybe try pelican's website...

>>30586312
Having qd for a qd is fucking retarded though

>>30586307
shut up

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>>30586327

the expert on retardation chimes in

>>30586288
>my nigga. I need to get a shirt in it
it's like multicam but more blended, i dig it

>>30586327
t. poorfag

what is best color for camo and all accessories relating to my AR?

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>>30586421

the only correct choice

>>30586421
Depends on your location and season, nigger.

>>30586391
bummer is most companies that make shit in it are air soft tier

>>30586421
multicam(not Army UCP), FDE, or OD green

>>30586432
>>30586440
>>30586448

wow thanks for the shitty answers, I appreciate it!

>>30586457
those are legit answers except for psi

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>>30586457