Gear Thread: Greyman Reborn

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Heil Hitler

>>30518315
your setup is gayer then Ernst Röhm

>>30518315
> Uses Nazi symbolism
> Uses Slav gear and designs
> Irony???

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>>30518332
>your setup is gay

t. Stalin

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>>30518339
>Nazis
>Using slav gear

Like that never happened, right goys?

>>30518357
whatever bolshevik

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>>30518408
>ITT superbuttblasted slavaboos

>>30518339
>Slav gear and designs
what besides the rifle is Slav?

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>>30518286
just ordered a blue adidas track suit today.

>>30518315
Heil.

Does anyone manufacturer a kangaroo pouch insert for AK mags or is it just ARfags fagging up the market again?

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>>30519968
You could probably just use the Esstac 7.62 KYWI insert for your AK mags, though I have no Idea how many would fit.

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>>30518315
You really should've went with a G3 variant. Then the whole "what would nazis look if they were still around" would've made sense.

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>>30518624

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Not sure if grey man or just don't want to spend $500 on dress-up

Where can you find the cheapest surplus woodland bdus?

Even airshit quality would be acceptable.

>Contacted otg hex about what p226 mold I should get since both of his have rails and mine doesn't
>Took a day to give a non response
>Asked again, making it clear I wanted to grab one before the sale ends
>Emails me last night while I'm asleep informing me it ended that day
Kind of a dick move, anyone know of any other good holster companies that work with rti holders?

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Dix

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>>30520420
>don't want to spend $500 on dress-up
I think you're in the wrong place pal. In these threads, we show off we dress like we have a lethal cast of autism.

>>30520519
ebay.

>>30520519
goodwill
thrift shops.
ebay
surplus stores.

What is grayman about carrying a rifle that isn't a SBR or Pistol length AR or something, perhaps with a folding stock.

Carrying a long gun seems to completely defeat the purpose. Once you are seen with a long gun you lose all of the advantages of being inconspicuous.

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Im looking at finally getting a PC and I need your opinion, what do you think of this?
>Pic clearly related
http://www.hessenantique.com/Coyote_Laser_Cut_Plate_Carrier_Vest_p/4318053.htm

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>>30522006
it's called a backpack or a bag where you can simply throw the rifle into.

guitar cases work pretty well.

>>30522053
>plz mr bad guy
>let me assemble my AR before you start shooting at me

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>>30522079
if he's confronting you draw your pistol from concealment then.
or get a longer bag

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>>30522079
>plz mr bad guy
>let me kill you with my .380
>plz

>>30522140
>im going to carry an AR
>just to keep it in a bag
>and use a pistol instead

>>30522140
That bag isn't inconspicuous at all tbqh.

It's nice as fuck, but it doesn't strike me as grayman gear

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>>30522220
you're a special kind of stupid arent you?
>>30522241
looks average as hell to me.

>>30522255
Those are some nice trousers.

>>30522326
Maybe so, I have a feeling that if I saw someone with that bag or a similar bag I'd know exactly what is likely to be in it.

>>30522326
I keep thinking about buying a large one.

I guess its time to take some more photos

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>>30522326
>not being /fa/ greyman

>>30522359
I think the average non gun owning person wouldn't think much about it.

>>30522369
This is nice.

>I'm just a regular guy carrying a duffle bag
>to work, like other regular guys
>that only carry duffle bags to the gym
They'll think you're carrying a fucking bomb.

>>30522359
point of greyman is to fool the average citizen.
>>30522364
I should buy a large one, the larue bag I have is alright

>>30522220
>>30522079
>>30522006
I used to have the same questions and a rifle really only makes sense when you are not on the move. Like sleeping for the night, home defense and that sort of thing. Otherwise you're right, if it's a OH SHIT HE'S GOT A KNIFE then yeah, go to pistol.

Or it might help if someone starts shooting at you but they miss and you can get to cover and pull out your rifle. Just a thought. But yeah mostly just makes sense when you are stationary.

>>30522383
>can't stop to the gym on the way to or the way back from work

>>30522369
idk if that's $330 nice. Looks like a 2 month wait time too.

>>30522446
Yeah, I personally don't see the need for a "greyman" rifle bag. Put your rifle in the trunk inside your garage where nobody will see. gg ez. That being said since skelly spends like 25% of his annual income on gear queer shit it would be nice to get a review from him.

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>>30522359

>all these super men that can see 600 yards away with no scope to analyze the contents and make of someones personal belongings

i swear non of these autists ever go out into real life


tell me what kind of bag or GREYMAN GEAR™ this target has

>>30522492

What are you even on about? That's like saying it doesn't matter what concealment holster you use because nobody can see you printing at 500 yards. Obviously nobody can see at that distance but you aren't always going to be that far away.

>>30522492
>500yds out innadesert
Might as well throw on full kit at that point. The idea behind greyman is to blend in somewhere public and crowded, like the bus or a subway.

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What chest rig is this?

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Current gear setup, I really need better photos

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Does anyone reputable make Tiger stripe G3 style pants? I would get the Crye Multi-Squid™ pair but I just can't bring myself to spend $200 on a pair of pants.

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>>30522538
Looks like the Mayflower R&C Recce Chest Rig.

>>30522577
Thank you

>>30522051
Anyone's opinions on this?

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>>30518286
CC on my person
I keep grab bag and long gun innatruck.

>Grab bag contains
Emergency whistle
local road maps.
money / prepaid credit card, and print out of my ID and car insurance.
2x millennium food bars
Water purification tablets
sandwich bags
Notepad pens and sharpies
disposable camera
extra battiers
flashlight
uv-5r
IFAK
3-6xmags for the long gun
2x pistol mags.
emergency rain poncho
space blanket.
4x chemlights
MPIL Mk1 Marker Panel
bic and matches
some extra room for a 1L water bottle.
bong multitool

>>30522492
Yeahhhhh you're a fucking retard. The grayman concept isn't meant to be inconspicuous at 500/600 yards. It's to help you blend into a crowd and go unnoticed. The idea is to draw the least amount of attention to you as you can.

>>30522597
Ditch prepaid card
Notepad pens should be a pencil
Ditch the bic
Carry less chemlights and more flares
Replace food bars with actual food

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>>30522523
>>30522509
the point is in a city 100 yards is long distance even the worst ccw holster wont look like its printing at a far enough distance.

your over estimating your ability to tell the contents of someones bags

the tsa gets billions and even they dont always get it right. you are trying to hard

>>30520896
As in you raided every pawn shop outside of FT Dix in New Jersey?

>>30522638
The gray man concept is to blend into a crowd...

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>>30522671
jesus summer is terrible

most summerized form: its easier then you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSQJP40PcGI

>>30522638
>the point is in a city 100 yards is long distance even the worst ccw holster wont look like its printing at a far enough distance.
I don't understand. I would much rather not print especially inside a fucking Chick-fil-a where I can only get 15 yards of distance tops.

>your over estimating your ability to tell the contents of someones bags
I don't have to estimate the contents. I just know when I see coyote brown and PALS webbing on the outside that the person with the pack is probably either a outdoorsy type or a gun type. Same goes for those Cobra buckles on a belt. That's enough suspicion to get additional attention, which could uncover something else (printing gun, printing spare mag, etc)

>the tsa gets billions and even they dont always get it right. you are trying to hard
The TSA is also staffed by mouth breathers and people who don't pay attention to trends in gun stuff or tac gear.

>>30522638
>the tsa gets billions and even they dont always get it right. you are trying to hard

The TSA is made up of employees who barely got their GED and likely aren't into guns.

I'm not as concerned about what someone 100 yards away is thinking as much as I am about making it through crowded areas without raising any suspicion.

>>30522627
>Ditch prepaid card
The Prepaid card comes in handy m88

>Notepad pens should be a pencil
noted.

>Ditch the bic
Bic weighs nothing, and it's always handy to have more than one source of fire on you.

>Carry less chemlights and more flares
I'll think about it.

>Replace food bars with actual food
It's not my lunch sack.
it's more of a put in and forget item only for emergencies.

>>30522797
>The Prepaid card comes in handy m88
If you are in a situation where you need to hose people down with bullets and eat food bars a debit card wont work
>Bic weighs nothing, and it's always handy to have more than one source of fire on you.
Then get a good lighter, BICs really suck unless 100% dry and 0 wind
>I'll think about it.
Flares and other chemical starters will usually work no matter the situation and can be used to replace the lighter you just tossed
>it's more of a put in and forget item only for emergencies.
The point is that you dont want to eat emergency food in an emergency situation. You will feel worse knowing that shit is serious because youre eating some loaf that sucks the water from your mouth. Packets of tuna, beef jerky,etc bring along food that comforts you.

>>30522383
That's funny, I carry a bag with a rifle in it to work. Every day.

>>30522830
>If you are in a situation where you need to hose people down with bullets and eat food bars a debit card wont work
Not him, but a debit card could be useful during something like a natural disaster that affects just your local area. If you manage to make it somewhere unaffected, it would really suck balls to not have any money. It also doesn't really weight much, or take up much space. No reason to ditch it entirely.

>>30522983
>Not him, but a debit card could be useful during something like a natural disaster that affects just your local area. If you manage to make it somewhere unaffected, it would really suck balls to not have any money. It also doesn't really weight much, or take up much space. No reason to ditch it entirely.
Open up your wallet and look inside

>>30523045
Wow, I didn't think of that. Haha thanks man.

>>30522255
Why are most people's plate carriers so small on here? It looks like that isn't even as wide as your rib cage.

My only experience with armor is bulletproof vest for popo and my SAPI pl8 for army, which seemed to encircle your chest a lot more

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>>30518286
Anybody know why the left-most operator has white cloth tied around his arms? Gotta assume it's some form of identification but why aren't the others following suit?

>>30522627
>ditch the BIC
stopped reading

>>30520420
Just dropped $100 on a chest rig in ATACS-FG...didn't realize I'll never bring myself to put together a whole set of matching fatigues.

Truth is, I'll probably never have the opportunity to use any of this shit, and EVEN IF the lights do go off then I'd come home wearing jeans/T-shirt/CC and just throw on a chest rig/AR over all that.

>>30523109
>Why are most people's plate carriers so small on here? It looks like that isn't even as wide as your rib cage.

It doesn't actually matter if you get shot in the ribs.

The parts you need to protect are your major organs.

Anybody down to post a pic and give me the ok to use it as the cover of a vidya project? Looking for a picture of masked greyman or "casual operator" kinda look. Action shot or shouldering a rifle pointed perpendicular to the camera is ideal.

>Inb4vidya faggot

Yeah, but still a chance to get your geared up picture more well known.

>>30523134
The middle operator definately has one, the operator the right might have one on his right arm (you can see the sleeve is bunched up a bit), the operator in the top of the picture has a yellow band.

It looks like lip service to wearing a militia uniform, which according to the law of land warfare, can be at a minimum an armband.

>>30523142
What type of game? School shooter simulator?

>>30522509
Nah you're right anon. I guarantee you any funner that sees your bag is gonna know there's a gun inside it, because it looks like a gun case. And any civilian that's paying attention will think it looks odd, because it is odd carrying a gun case around.

Just carry around a guitar case or something, they make ones you can wear as a backpack. Or just keep it in a more normal bag.

>>30523165
Huehuehue.

Sidescrolling shooter. Generic Rainbow Six deniable operators in semi-plainclothes sorta deal.

>>30522597
To all others interested

Water purification tablets are an important item for your BoB but they are more for a camp setting with larger amounts of water

Get a life straw or whatever will purify instantly. I've been in places where you can't drink the water unless local and even then it's iffy, water tablets weren't used by anyone but everyone had, but the water bottles that filtered as you drank were a godsend

>>30522571
I remember seeing a pair of pants like those online for around $40. I'll see if I can find it again.

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How often do you guys shoot in your gear?
>>30523251
TMC makes pants like that, I've had a pair for a few months. seems durable for how cheap it was

>>30518286


mfw nerds actually think that buying a custom gun case that doesnt look like a gun case makes them elite spetsnaz paramilitary espionage agents

>>30523300
Salty grapes

>>30522830
You're thinking all out bullshit, there are levels to the bullshit and you're going full on retard getting rid of shit that's invaluable in most situations.
>Debit/credit card weighs nothing and fits anywhere. If it works, great, if not I'm stealing shit and money isn't valuable
>bic lighter, weighs hardly anything and lasts a long time, cheap as shit. Doesn't work in the wind? Block the wind.

Don't be such a spaz anon, it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

>>30523141
>implying that shit won't bounce in through your majorly exposed sides
>implying getting shot in the ribs is acceptable
I'm not saying these are bad, something is better than nothing , but if you're gonna spend money, buy something that offers more protection

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>>30523362
>I'm not saying these are bad, something is better than nothing , but if you're gonna spend money, buy something that offers more protection
More coverage means more weight. So it's cost-benefit analysis depending on your expected level of threat, your environment, and anticipated mission.

>>30523279
please link me the video to that webm

>>30523142
Possibly when I get home, what kind of gear and look are you exactly looking for?

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>>30523142
like this
>>30523433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk0bbJBBui0

>>30523527
>tfw no close friends to operate and meme with

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>>30523527

>>30523408
If I'm putting on plate I expect the threat level to be high. And I don't want some goatfucker or nigger to shoot me in my tiddlywinks because I wanted to save money or weigh less.
If shtf I'm going to be wearing my full kit and I'ma be rolling north with my senpai raining piss on anybody that looks sketchy
>inb4 edgy
Allz I'm saying anonz is you should spend the extra money on some military grade plate and equipment because that's the shit that is proven to work in shooting situations. Bullets are tricky bitches that'll fuck you up if you give them the chance.

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>>30523461

Clothing is all civilian stuff, with a face hidden. If body armor is visible, its flat colored, the white low profile soft armor would be ideal. Chest rig or whatever on top.

>>30523527
The gear look is spot on, the pose doesn't exactl give off an action vibe though.

Any exposed part of the face or eyes would have to be unblurred though.

>>30523547
>tfw all my friends are poor and nofuns
Someday.

>>30523577
>military grade plate and equipment because that's the shit that is proven to work in shooting situations
Except the plate carriers you're saying are too small are literally medium SAPI plate carriers that have been proven by US SOF from all over. Just because conventional force guys roll in full armor carriers doesn't mean it's the best for all situations. If I'm walking around in a wooded or mountainous environment I don't want to be carrying 6-10 pounds of unnecessary KM2 that isn't even stopping the relevant rifle threats.

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>>30523600
if you wait a day or two I can get everyone together and we can get you a picture how ever you want it. so you want civi clothes and little camo, action pose, balaclava's unblurred faces

>>30523655
That shimapan patch will never get old.

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>>30523655
Yeah, no rush. This is just for a portfolio project, but I figured I'd actually ask for permission rather than lurk and steal something that came along.

If you want to get a tripfag gang together, any kind of serious looking picture would be great. A photo of a breaching stack from an angle like this would be killer.

When you post it, just mention if it's ok for vidya faggotry. I lurk 24/7.

>>30523109
I'm guessing a lot are kids just playing dress up.

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>>30523279
>"It's so easy, that a caveman can do it."

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>>30522830
>If you are in a situation where you need to hose people down with bullets and eat food bars a debit card wont work

Who says I'm using it exclusively for combat? It's also nice when getting gas for your vehicle and you forgot your wallet.

>Then get a good lighter, BICs really suck unless 100% dry and 0 wind

they aren't windproof that's for sure, but they've worked fine for me when backpacking, cheap, lightweight, minimal size and disposable.

>Flares and other chemical starters will usually work no matter the situation and can be used to replace the lighter you just tossed

I might throw a few more of them in my truck

>You will feel worse knowing that shit is serious because youre eating some loaf that sucks the water from your mouth. Packets of tuna, beef jerky,etc bring along food that comforts you.

>Welp... I'm stranded somewhere better start filling my mouth up with food.
First step is finding a water source not packing your mouth with biscuits.

Plus I had the bars on hand, might as well use them somewhere.

>>30523226
I just use oasis water purification tablets because they're small and packable.

>>30523134
>Anybody know why the left-most operator has white cloth tied around his arms? Gotta assume it's some form of identification
Yeah, it's to id friendlies.
They tied gauze around their arms to ID good guys, which is a pretty clever thing to do when Recon is working in civvies with the other Spetsnaz groups dressed from anywhere between full kit to operator casual.

>but why aren't the others following suit?
My guess would be those guys if they don't have gauze already tied to their kits, would be they didn't get the memo or fell off in the Operation.

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>>30522006
this guy gets it. long gun only in phase 3 when S really HTF and you no longer need to care about the grey man.

>>30523794
There's a big assumption that firepower/capability is always negatively correlated with stealth. Some people can't fucking conceal a glock 19 and whine that it's too big, so they carry a single stack 380 with no reload. On the other hand there are people who can easily conceal a fullsize glock, 2 reloads, a TQ, 2 knives, and quikclot. You can conceal more firepower/kit at the exact same level of "stealth" if you put some effort into finding the right equipment, experimenting with it, and working around your body type or just trying to change your body type.

>>30518315
>hates jews
>buys condor gear
HEH HEH HEH STUPID GOYIM.

>>30523844
He didn't hate jews before he bought condor.

>>30522326
slap a few guitar or music equipment related patches on it, and no one could tell, without knowing exactly what it is.

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>>30521612
> lethal case of autism
> lethal
> autism

Kek'd harder than I should have.

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>>30523862

>>30523878
>One patch
>"Guitar"

> The other patch is "Don't let this case fool you, it holds the most powerful percussion in the orchestra"

>Coexist patch

>Clear Sky Patch

You'd be unnoticeable.

>>30523829
i agree but you are talking about handguns and i am talking about long guns. you can't conceal a longgun so you only grab it when S really HTF and it's time to go innawoods (or when you are at home or keep it in your car)

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Anybody want to buy some crye style pants? also got an LBT 3 day pack for cheaper too if any one is interested

>>30523109
"They're only going to shoot me directly from the front or back right? What are angles?"

That or these people are manlets and it actually does wrap sufficiently around the body.

>>30523141
Cuz not like getting shot in the ribs is going to hurt, a lot, and possibly puncture a lung, or the bullet might just fragment or bounce around and end up in your major organs anyway.

>>30524604
Did you shit yourself in them?

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>>30524681
>That or these people are manlets and it actually does wrap sufficiently around the body.
>tfw sapi small almost covers my entire torso

>>30524685
Never used them.

>>30524604
who made your pants?

>>30524707
>not shitting yourself while jacking off in the pants before selling them
It's like you don't want high dollar prices from the fetishists.

>>30518624
actual german?

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>>30524800
hell no

Is the Ferro Concepts Dangler in stock anywhere? There's a Spiritus Systems SACK but it's more expensive and less aesthetic

>>30523945
Fucking lol

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where to cop a GLOCK hat like hickok's /k/?

What are your opinions on the LBV-88/E? I know there's better, more modern gear but I'm a bit of a poorfag. I already have an ALICE belt with mag pouches, canteens, etc. if that makes any difference.

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Can you guys help me build my gear set? I want to have gear set up for every environment, meaning:
>Arctic/Snowscape (blizzard or whiteout)
>Cold Weather (Forest Terrain/Environment)
>Desert
>Sub-Tropical (Already know what I'm gonna buy here)
>Tropical
>Swamp/Marsh/Any water heavy environment

Any tips for any of these?

>>30525454
What's your salary like?

>>30524731
Emerson
>>30524760
I got them barley used some army guys I know wanted to try some cheaper "crye" style pants to test them out to see if they wanted to buy some actual cryes and I have them now.

>>30525467
If I get the job I want, 70 to 90k

>>30522369
>It's actually made to be a rifle bag.
Dayum that's a 00 who doesn't give out his name tier bag.

I'd think you were a cuck holding your wife's $900 worth of clothes with it.

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>>30523911
>9/11 get

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>>30525515
It'll take years to build multiple kits like you're referring to. Stick to the terrain in your area and go from there.

>>30525454
Absolutely retarded
Focus on YOUR area. Why the fuck would you need tropical and tundra gear?

Buy one set of gear, a set that works in your enviroment. Where do you live.

>>30525662
I know what you mean. I'm just looking for tips as for things I should avoid or take note of when buying gear. Especially for Arctic shit, since you can die Really Fucking Fast™ if you aren't carfeul

>>30525717
>What is traveling?

I'm not gonna use all this shit at one time you dumbass

>>30520420
yeah this is gray
also, mora
love these knives

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>>30522638
>the pic on the right

does camo really works or is it a meme?

>>30525803
Well yes and no, what camo are you talking about?

>>30525502
How much though?

>>30523547

>The all my "friends" are vaginas who's rather drink and get high than buy guns and nerd out with me

My younger brothers friends are the shit tho, my friends are pussy fags

>>30525803
nah bro. UCP is actually one of the best camos to ever hit the scene.

>>30525967
Make me an offer (send me the offer @ [email protected])

>>30525717
Stop being a faggot. If he wants a bunch of different environment shit, let him do it in peace.

>>30523613
One of my friends owns a gun, but he can't afford anything past that at this point
>>30525968
My friends like to come shooting, but they don't have jobs and if they do spend it on weed or little shit

>>30525454
Winter: warm clothes in whatever cut and color, cheap surplus overwhites.
Cold Weather Forest: Just ditch the overwhites, Vintage wool mackinaw jacket in nuetral color, surplus bdu pants with layering underneath, hunting clothes (deer season is in cold weather)
Desert: no clue, never been. Desert and coyote surps?
Tropical: airshit tigerstripe bdus
Swamp: the fuck? just wear your woodland bdus or just stay out of the swamp!
You do not need to build new kit for each of these, reuse as much possible.
you do not need to spend money on queer tac gear, buy used surps and civvie stuff and you will look more grayman while saving cash

>>30525732
How often are you going to be in an article environment? I mean really? Why are you even buying this gear? Just cuz it's cool?

>>30526257
Yeah man, I just think it'd be some cool shit to have. That being said, I'm still gonna want to use it in the field; and want it to not fail on me

>>30526257
Arctic environment*

Fucking auto correct.

>>30526276
Really if you're going to buy gear you really should have an idea of what you want to use it for. Otherwise you're just buying gear based on other people's word. Which is fine, but your needs may different. If you use only other peoples word you're going to end up buying a whole bunch if shit that either you don't need, or just sucks. Start out small. Maybe a simple battle belt set up and work up from there. That's what I did. I started with a basic belt set up and ended up moving up to a chest rig. I ended up getting a few different ones before I settled on one I liked. I also ended up changing up things like pouch placement and weight distribution based on what I was doing while wearing it. Do yourself a favor, figure out exactly what youre going to use this gear for and go from there. You'll save yourself a lot of money and headache.

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>>30526109

These same friends don't like shooting, have jobs, but are degenerates. All liberal wimps. Makes me fucking bummed man.

>Mfw no rl /k/ brahs

Cringiest fucking shit

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I need to go back to the gym again, lost all my progress due to my back.

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>>30529733
No joke
You look like an 11 YO about to go airsofting

>>30520359
>burn notice

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>>30529733
1. Increase Calorie Intake
2. Lift Weights
3. ????

You can do it skele, I believe in you.

>>30529733
What happened? Did you go to snap city?

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>>30529733
we are all gonna make it!

>>30529733
what progress, you've always been a skellington,.

>>30529880
>2. Lift Weights
No access to gym here so I cant do squats or presses. I do have a bunch of loaded ammo cans and some dumbbells. Please tell me how I can get gainz?

>inb4 go to a gym
45 minutes one way to nearest gym

>>30529880
>>30530174

fucking meatheads!

>>30529733
Swimming helps

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>>30530289

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>>30530289
2

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>Greyman

Clothes are optional when you own the night.

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So let me pose a question for you. Let's say you can only take half of your gear for a resistance type setting. What would you wear instead of your tactical gear, will jeans be ok

>>30530174
nice fjallraven pants faggot pussy.

>>30530174
Where is your range germanbro?

>>30530461
>operating at full erection

>>30530745
Urban anything you don't want to run around in maximum tactical, you want to blend into the mob without sacrificing fighting ability. Denim is a good call.

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>>30531010
pretty comfy desu

>>30531028
i shoot in cologne, düsseldorf koblenz and seck where we got a 0-300m range.

>>30531216
I live close to kölle as well. Gotta let me shoot dat sweet rifle of yours some time.
Also have some spare /k/ patches I have to get rid of.

>>30531279

sure, it will be possible.
Do you have any blasters?

>>30530174
show me your feet

>>30531335
No gats yet. My first year as a club members is over in September.

>>30531380
nn...no feet for you!

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>>30531216
this is a supremely aesthetic fit. would change out the pants to some jeans, but overall...

impressive. very nice.

>>30531216

even the fucking germans have better gunlaws than comiefornie!
WTF

>>30525662
Those are sick hiking boots, I have a pair.

Merrell MOAB-Mid

The Gore-Tex version holds up completely submerged, breath easy in summer and keep you warm enough you'll be comfortable in wool socks outdoors in winter, vibram outsole and breathable design, the 'Ventilator' (non-water proof version) is quick drying.
And they are super lightweight.


10/10 all the way.

>>30529880
What are those Pants?

>>30530461
>mag has dot matrix
>better not use it

>>30531548
Fjallraven Keb

>>30531466
They're pretty great. Took them on a few hikes after hiking the grand Canyon finally killed the combat boots I was using previously. Comfy and the waterproofing works well. Mine are non gortex and don't breathe as well as the ventilators but I still am fine wearing wool socks under them. Great boots for sure.

>>30524681
With your dumbass logic you should either be wearing full mjolnir armor or non at all. Youre full kit won't protect your limbs, neck or face because you aren't made of ceramic so have fun bleeding to death in a scenario I made up where you clearly present yourself as a threat instead of looking like everyone else

No way they'll honor this right?
https://nelsonuniform.com/products/7-62x39-msc-super-light-armor-applique-plate-slaap-helmet-plate?variant=20847250311

>>30532271
Thanks.

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>>30531335
>>30531387
>mfw nofuns - no response
in ~3 months when i got something to share i'll try to summon you in these threads

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Hey guys, can I play the greyman game?

>>30535381
10/10 subtle trollin'

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>>30518315

>>30523527
>greyman
>neo Nazi Kiev paramilitary patch
it sorta ruins the look

>>30518315
nice got plates in the carrier?
how heavy?

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Can you guys recommend a gucci range bag for me? Maybe post some pics of yours.

I would like to carry more AR and SCAR 17 mags than pistol mags, maybe some targets and boxes of ammo. I also have a spotting scope that it would be great if I could fit in there...

Budget about $100 or less

The Midway ones aren't on sale anymore and the sluts in their livechat won't tell me when they'll be on sale again.

>>30535504
>Gucci
>Under $100

>>30535530

Alright then, how about a Vera Bradley level bag

>>30535504
for some reason i want those both to be shopped

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>>30523527
is this american betas and guns?

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Got a Truspec combat shirt on sale, I have never felt so un-swole before

>>30535709
Because the arms?

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Hey guys, I think I need a vest to carry mags in. I'm planning on taking a carbine course, and I need a magazine carrier. I usually prefer belt carriers for my pistol, but I'm willing to try something new, unless you guys think I'd be better off using a belt for all my ammo needs.

So any recommendations?

>>30535504
Woobies are pretty GUCCI

Wrap your guns in a woobie and use some bungee cord to tie it up.

>>30535725
Like wizards sleeve. My LBT shirt is much more fitted.

>>30535742

I have the D3CR-H and it works pretty well, or you could just get some belt-mounted hsgi tacos and roll that way.

>>30535761
I was actually looking at the DC3R-H today, but didn't know if I felt like dropping $180 on a vest before knowing if I liked one. Can the tacos mount to a belt by default? Or do I need to buy a hook or something?

>>30535742
If you like belts go with belts.
No need getting the torso all sweaty for a course

>>30535794

I got the H because I carry 17S mags in it sometimes, but it carries AR mags just the same, plus when I had the regular D3CR the "stuffit" pouch was wasted space for me, so I liked the pouch setup on the H better. I picked up a flatpack as well so they all interface together nicely.

HSGI makes dedicated belt-mounted tacos now with hook+loop. I actually have two multicam ones I need to get rid that were never used. You can use them with a hook+loop belt but it's not required, though might be a little more rigid of a setup.

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>>30518286
It works for now

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>>30535858

>>30535742
First mag goes on the belt. A lot easier and more scalable.

>>30535874
Yeah it's terrible but at least I can carry my ammo and the shit I need to bring with me if I need to go somewhere.

>>30535874
There's a porn star with big natural tits named Katerina Hartlova who looks like this bitch.

>>30535858
what cartridges you have? all buck shots or... ?

>>30535978
It's a mix of 00 buck, rifled slugs, #4, and # 6 shot. Aside from my pistol on my belt with 17+1 and another 17rd mag.

>>30535970

They're both pretty hot but they don't look anything alike to me. God damn you for getting my hopes up.

>>30522565
>glock knife
good choice anon

>>30536000
nice variety
>also checked

>>30520519
Propper bdu. Evike has them and they're pretty solid. Yeah evike is an airshit store but they still sell pretty good gear like plate carriers and gloves

>>30536084

come on poor fag, dont buy airsoft shit for big boy games.

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>>30523279
Tmc is holding up pretty well with their new g3 pants. Maybe they stepped up their game

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>>30536114
>thinks propper is airshit quality

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I've decided to go for a FLC for a chest rig because it's cheap as fuck, comfortable, and incredibly versatile. I figured I might as well get a desert and woodland one since they're as low as $9 used, $20 new. I have two questions.

1) Should I go with green or brown pouches? Which works better with both colors? I'm leaning towards green.

2) For my desert, should I go with coyote brown or 3-color?

>>30536202
>having the back that tight but not zipping up the front
wut

>>30533106
They didn't. Refunded me and gave me a 10% discount code as apology, which is pretty solid I suppose.

>>30536400
Just the picture off Amazon, m8

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>>30535794

Here's my current setup, 7.62 mags in right now but like I said they swap to 5.56 pretty easily, same with the Tacos on the belt.

>>30522369
W2c

>>30536491
not sure if memeing but literally says in the picture

>>30535381
I've been thinking about getting that buttstock. Would you recommend it? How well does it work?

>>30536556
I'd say it's pretty solid for what it's worth. There is a little front/back wobble that can be mitigated by having heavier, higher capacity magazines in the fake magwell. It might come with a small 10 rounder, which is pretty good considering how little I've used it. The only thing I can really say about it is that it's kind of a pain in the ass to get onto the buffer tube, but other than that, it's pretty good being on a backpack gun and keeps more rounds handy whenever needed.

>>30536470
Hello, fellow Hoosier. How's life in the Crossroads treating you?

>>30536470
Very nice

>>30536636

Muggy today and glorious golden corn everywhere

>>30536644

thx

Is there a level IV helmet anywhere in the world? Or maybe a helmet that's capable of withstanding multiple strikes?

>>30536677
Same here, you from northern Indiana?

>>30536755
Just slap a sideplate onto your face.

>>30536769

east central, muncie-ish

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Steel level iv plates in the PC, medical pouch is the maxpedition swing-open pouch with alcohol wipes, israeli bandage, RAT tourniquet, Celox applicator, trauma shears, and various other gauzes and shit.

>>30536798
Nice feet

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>>30536798
the gray w/ coyote looks fly af

I don't to sound like a buttfucking faggot...but any pics of you wearing it

>>30536798
>>steel plates
enjoy your spalling

also
>individual toe socks
DROPPED

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>>30536854
>implying I don't have the copyrighted specialized anti-spall truckbed coating on my plates
>>30536852
thx mang

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>>30536910

Holy shit a ktard who isn't either 85 or 300lbs. You must be 5' 3", that's the only explanation

>>30536798
what is the name of the carrier by chance

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>>30536910

>>30536922
I have nearly the same build, although I don't have as big of arms as him

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>>30536927
5.11 tactec, iirc
>>30536922
i'm 2'6"

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>>30523527
kill yourself, azov nigger

>>30536910
Yo no homo but I'd fuck you

>>30537032
Post more you sexy fuck

>>30522538
It's called a bra, anon.

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>>30537054
>>30537062
welcome to homo club

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>>30520406

What makes "incognito" bags more expensive than other bags?"

>>30529898
Yeah, he tried 1.5pl deadlift, snap city

>>30537288
>tfw have a friend who rounds on bar + 35s

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>>30537097
That's pretty gay there, sexy.

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>>30537032
I like your shirt you hairy fuck.

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>>30537553
oh fuck

>>30536910
>triple mag stack
>ifak that's even thicker on the front of the plate carrier.
your bulge won't distract me motherfucker, your gear set up is shit.

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Mission accomplished:
Backpack gun assembled

>>30520519
do you not have a milsurp store in your town?

you can pick up sweat rotted woodland bdu's for like 35 bucks (15 dollar shirt, $20 pants)

it's easier to find modern uniforms though, and they'll be in better condition. But for some reason every surplus store has an infinite supply of ALICE gear

>>30535742
there's some really stripped down and simple chest rigs out there.
I'd look at a chest rig that'll hold 3 mags and an ifak. the hsgi ao micro rig, with 3 pig bombers pouches and an hsgi bleeder pouch is my recommendation.

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>>30518339
Hugo Schmeisser totaly didn`t worked (forced obviously) in the same place as Kalashnikov..

and bam Kalashnikov, and only a tank operator made the ak47, Good Lord, that`s something

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>>30537637
My backpack gun is better.

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>>30537637
am i the only one going to skate stores and checking out those backpacks. a million configs for storing takedowns and or gun saddles. think cheaper camera bags with more space.

>greyman

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>>30523878
>ay yo hol up
>gib me dat guitar white boi
yeah, during a mass foot evacuation/riot scenario disguising your gun as a high price, easily fenced item like a musical instrument makes perfect sense.

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skeletor, please post pictures of your lh9, your pistol gear, and your thoughts on that stuff.

>>30537689
He actually didn't. They both worked for the same armory but the design bureaur was moved to Kazakhstan really in the war and was not moved back until the late 50s. Kalashnikov was never even in the same country as him.

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>>30537838

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>>30537864

i liek this.

>>30522597
you need to replace all those chemlights with a real fucking flashlight with a 20-50 hour battery life setting+spare batteries.

also replace your fistful of bics with 2 torch lighters and a canister of butane. matches are fucking useless. one match box takes the space of 2 bics or a real lighter.

>disposable camera
>maps
worthless

you need a phone with good battery life in a otterbox/hard case and a portable solar charger. you can save digital copies of maps to it and use gps/the in built compass. Also it's a damn camera. where are you even going to get film processed? why would you bother carrying around a whole disposable to take at max 30 fixed lens pictures.

>shitty $1 rain ponch
>not wearing a waterproof jacket and scotch guarded pants

>no water filter

>debit card
put $200 in fives in a money clip and leave it in the pack. why would you think Sidorovich takes visa?

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>>30522638
reminded me of this with the right pic

>>30536202
You can flip the belt around so it clips at the back, makes it easier to take on and off.

>>30537969
To add: Make sure you get one with a zipper at the front. Much better than just clips.

>>30537911
>Physical maps
>worthless

Kys faggot

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>>30538004
>physical maps
>not useless without navigational tools
>doesn't even pack a compass
>implying your state topographical map isn't more useful as fire starter than judging where the hell you're going

barring WWIII and everyone shooting down satellites, a standalone or phone gps and digital maps are infinitely more useful than a single stoneage paper map. you can torrent topographical and road maps for the entire world, let alone the united states, and keep them on your phone. Or just save digital copies of googlemaps for where you intend to travel.

sounds like someone doesn't find old nike missile test sights to explore with satellite maps
>2001+15
>not catching pokemon during shtf as you land nav

>>30522565
nothing says greyman quite like a helmet

>>30538083
It's still worthwhile to keep physical maps around in case of losing or breaking your phone, an EMP going off, running out of battery and being unable to stop and charge somewhere or with solar, etc.

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>>30538083

Lets hope I fair better than the Australians.

>>30538093
>implying that is a greyman setup
Wew lad

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grey man threads are always shit shows. everyone has a vastly different idea of what the fuck that means. what seperates "grey man" from an edc? because if the "point" of grey man is to not stick out in a crowd, that means no body armor, no rifle.

so, we've got 33 posts left. what the fuck is grey man. what's the point, what are the rules. I know the real answer is "it's a marketing gimmick"

Secret Squirrels, armed security, and maybe some cops are the only people who could realistically benefit from "low vis equipment"

My STT is pretty slick. I'm going to dick around and see how low pro I can go.

>>30537911
>you need to replace all those chemlights with a real fucking flashlight with a 20-50 hour battery life setting+spare batteries.
Who says I don't already?

>also replace your fistful of bics with 2 torch lighters and a canister of butane. matches are fucking useless. one match box takes the space of 2 bics or a real lighter.
bics/matches are fine

>>disposable camera
You know car insurance for if a wreck happens.

>>maps
I wish I didn't have all these backups to rely on


>you need a phone with good battery life in a otterbox/hard case and a portable solar charger. you can save digital copies of maps to it and use gps/the in built compass. Also it's a damn camera. where are you even going to get film processed? why would you bother carrying around a whole disposable to take at max 30 fixed lens pictures.
From my experience, precharged cell phone batteries sometimes lose a charge when in storage for an extended period.
I don't live in Trendy Ville I can get my film developed at the local Walmart.

>>shitty $1 rain poncho
>>not wearing a waterproof jacket and scotch guarded pants
You know a grab bag it isn't for a camping expedition

>>no water filter
They work fine, but If I die to Dysentery due to the purification tablets not working, I'll let you know.

>>debit card
>put $200 in fives in a money clip and leave it in the pack. why would Carrying both a prepaid card and cash works fine in my book

>you think Sidorovich takes visa?
No, but a gas station will.

>>30537781
gayman is more like it. sorry anon, those look really faggy and they also don't look like they hold much

>>30538339
>matches are fine
they really aren't. a 50ct box of matches takes up the space of two bic lighters. if you have a lighter why would you ever use matches.

>disposable camera for car wrecks
and your cellphone with it's 30mp wide angle lens won't take pictures of your bumper because...

>u no it isn't 4 a camping trip
>which is why I carry a single use poncho I'll have to replace after using it to get back to my car in the rain after getting film developed at walmart

>purification tablets
you should try some chemically purified water. protip: it tastes terrible. buy a lifestraw idiot. iodine tablets and boiling are the kind of thing you use when "camping".

>be you
>evac situation because blizzard/hurricane/whatever
>I'm sorry sir the credit card machine is down
>will this prepaid card work
>...sir the machine is down.
if you are going to be retarded, at least be topical and set up google pay. then you don't even need to remember a loose gift card when you leave your wallet at home like a fucking idiot.

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>>30538273
Greyman is anything from EDC to full kit with Normie clothing underneath to LARPing as the enemy in my book.


Hey blu did you ever send that buckle

>>30518286

>track suit for combat

I can't come up with a negative. Flexible, comfy, doesn't limit movement... What's the downside? Maybe visibility?

>>30538444
no excuses, I still have it. I just keep forgetting, over and over again. I'm going to put it in my car right now, so I have to see it on my way to and from work and actually think about.

>>30538436
>>they really aren't. a 50ct box of matches takes up the space of two bic lighters. if you have a lighter why would you ever use matches.
>I can't possibly think of a situation where it would be wise to have more than one way of starting a fire.


>>disposable camera for car wrecks
>and your cellphone with it's 30mp wide angle lens won't take pictures of your bumper because...
Roll off the road; loose camera phone falls out of the window.
Take a picture of my totaled car and smashed phone for the memories with the disposable camera.
and later buy myself some coffee with my prepaid card.

>>u no it isn't 4 a camping trip
>>which is why I carry a single use poncho I'll have to replace after using it to get back to my car in the rain after getting film developed at Walmart
You bet bud.

>>purification tablets
>you should try some chemically purified water. protip: it tastes terrible. buy a lifestraw idiot. iodine tablets and boiling are the kind of thing you use when "camping".
Yeah I know, I've had had it before.
Getting salty about water purification, anon it's okay, people have different opinions.

>>be you
>>evac situation because blizzard/hurricane/whatever
>>I'm sorry sir the credit card machine is down
>>will this prepaid card work
>>...sir the machine is down.
>if you are going to be retarded, at least be topical and set up google pay. then you don't even need to remember a loose gift card when you leave your wallet at home like a fucking idiot.

Did you not get the memo that I carry cash in the bag too?

>>30538663
>I'd rather carry a box of matches than 2 bics

>crash car
>go bag flies out of window and instantly gets stolen by a feral street ape
about as likely

>I carry cash too
then why carry a prepaid card? if you're in a situation where you can use a credit card, why not have a 20k limit credit card in your wallet instead of 50 bucks on a prepaid visa.
>inb4 muh black helicopters
then you need more than a debit card.

Anyone know of any good Multicam shirts and pants, been looking at a lot of 5.11 and Tru-Spec.

>>30539589
Gi. Ive worn the same set of acus for 10 days before. We did some stuff in the gerogia swamp, and i wore a set for 5 days, caked in mud and soaked to shit. Ive always found acus very comfortable. You can get combat shirts, in british mpat or american multicam for $30. Pants are $20-$40, depends where you shop.

>>30538753
>>go bag flies out of window and instantly gets stolen by a feral street ape
>about as likely
comme si comme sa

>then why carry a prepaid card? if you're in a situation where you can use a credit card.
It's an easy way to carry an extra 500 dollars That I feel comfortable leaving in my truck.
Plus if I forget my wallet and need gas I don't have to walk in.

>20k limit card.
I don't like buying things I don't have the money for, anything else I just buy through the debit card.

>>30539700
this

Concerning full size pistols. Im torn between the CZ 75 SP-01 and the Smith & Wesson M&P 9. Ive been doing a bit of research and both guns seem great. Got my hands on the M&P and it was nice but I couldnt get a hold on a CZ. Any obvious cons to getting the M&P? Im active duty mil and the LGS sells it for $328 which is pretty nice. I live in the Communist Republic of Maryland so getting weapons is a serious pain in general.

>>30530174
stay safe köln anon

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>>30536910
>>30537097
We gear and skivvies nao?

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Tell me gear queers, what brand makes a good entrenching tool?

What boots work well for you guys? I saw the Merrell comments above. If I could get them from REI that would be great, but I'm not picky where they come from.

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>>30539954
Redwings Iron Rangers are wonderful boots, especially if you put a padded insole in them. Break them in and they feel like butter on your foot and the goodyear welted cork sole lasts forever. Just don't wear them on ice

>>30539938
Surplus. An e-tool is an e-tool

>>30538474
its not quiet in the least, too crunchy

What do you think lads? MARPAT Woodlands or Multicam for East Coast?

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>>30518357
The Germans were running out of resources and hope near the end of the war.

>>30539782
CZs can be finicky maintenance wise. They tend to break small parts, specifically the trigger return spring and the slide stop, at lower round counts than other pistols. M&P9s have historically been plagued in accuracy issues, but supposedly it's getting better.

>>30541090
Figures. Guess glock would be the more reliable and accurate choice? I wish I wasnt so ignorant on handguns other than the Beretta which is my service weapon, and I fucking hate it.

>>30541151
To be honest none of the major manufacturers are perfect anymore. Name one and someone will name a problem. With the glocks some people get brass to the face, although that's supposed to have improved as well. I would personally prefer Glock for mag availability, holster options, and sight options. Just know that you may have to do some tinkering no matter what you choose.

>>30541203
Thanks for the insight. No point in owning anything with moving parts and expecting to never do any maintenance anyway.

>>30539938
the old all metal one is AMES brand, the new issue ones with the plastic handle are Glock or Gerber I think

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Looking for recommendations for a plate carrier.

Camouflage needs are for Colorado.
Eventually want to carry level 4 ceramic plates.
I don't want some bullshit that will fall apart, but I don't need gucci shit either. Functionality is number one.

First order of business is getting the carrier so I have something to attach magazines to.

Please help.

Link to some magazine pouches would be great too.

Also, do people wear packs over a carrier?
In SHTF I might end up hiking in the mountains.

Thanks guys.

>>30541444
I'm only going to attempt to answer part of your question since other people will do a better job with the other parts.

People do wear packs over PCs although packs that are designed to have semi-rigid adjustable backplates that can be bent to fit you and your PC. More popular is just attaching a pack straight to your PC like an expanding flat pack or a big hydration carrier.

Good luck in the woods I guess.

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>>30541563
Okay thanks for the explanation.

Please forgive but I'm completely new to gear.

How is the build quality on Condor and Rothco?

>>30541444
http://www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=52813

Made to the same specifications as it's 400+ counterpart. Gucci as shit for a low ass price. Also for Ceramics Midwest has some good ones for $150 a pop.

>>30539897
shoo shoo skink man

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>>30541761
Thanks a ton. This looks pretty good. Kinda pricier than I was hoping, as I wanted to get in under $100 for the carrier alone, but I do hate cheap nylon and plastic crap breaking.

Would you say that is the best value?

I'm assuming this Condor stuff is shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js3A_-cJEIM

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>>30541761
Also I'm 6 foot, 200 lbs, 50" chest.

I'm assuming I'm a large? Or do plate carriers go small?

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WIP

>>30534291

ha, no problem.
Get your guns'n training and we will meet.

>>30541961
Those are some comfy looking socks

>>30520412
w2c this please tell me

>>30541961
>writing on t-shirt
You don't get the grey man concept.