HELP

>>30505204
Take a straw, put it against the stuck round, seal it with something like chewing gum, and suck for everything you've got.

>>30505204
return that shit, cause they didnt mill the chamber right. otherwise, let the bolt slam home, and then try to pull the charging handle to get it out, without bending and breaking it. Usually putting your foot on the FSB and grabbing the CH with both hands helps.

>>30505204
Have you tried to remove the magazine and let the bolt close on the round, then try and eject it?

Alternatively, get a cleaning rod and or something firm and long that will fit in your barrel, insert it into the barrel till it touches the tip of the round, get a hammer and smack the end until the round pops out.

Lock bolt back, drop mag, let bolt go home, extract round

Then put the mag back in, rack it again to chamber, and fucking kill yourself faggot

>>30505216
it's tactical secrets like this that keep this guy at the top, OP be thankful this guy is blessing you with some serious knowledge

pull back the charging handle, lock the bolt back, remove the magazine, and pull the bullet out with a pencil or something. Or if you are more cautious remove the upper, take out the BCG and charging handle, then remove the bullet.

>>30505204
That's a squib round/bad primer.

Remove the magazine if you can, make sure you keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction. Rack the bolt one more time. Pull the trigger, see if it goes off.

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>>30505204
Put your foot on the muzzle to support it, place your selector switch on auto since that's the easiest mode to get a jam out, then punch the round in with a spare round that you have

That's happened to me everytime I've been to a range and it works everytime

>>30505225
I'm taking it back to Gander Mountain tomorrow. That was the absolute first round to go in that gun. Thankfully, the rounds after it fell out and wouldn't rack.

Is this absolutely something that I can't remove myself? Is it a manufacturing defect?

>>30505204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i-Mb6fleaY

>>30505240
It's not a squib. The round didn't fire and the cartridge wasn't struck.

>>30505264
It's just a double feed man you would look like a full retard if you took it into the shop for something that basic. You should know how to fix jams like that yourself

Is your extractor still intact?

>>30505279
Hey man I'm just trying to learn. That's why I came here and asked.

>>30505204
failure to eject, take a .2 inch wooden dowel and shove it down muzzle to get the cassing out, then inspect the case, look for cracks, after that inspect the bolt and ejector, if you see ANY damage, return that shit.

>>30505279
hmm...now that i think about it.

/imagesearch/
exact results.

op post a picture of YOUR malfunction dumbass.

>>30505277
Wait, so have to tired to let the bolt close and extract the cartridge?

didn't you post this exact thread before?

Clear it and try it again. If it jams take it back.

Could be that the chamber is too small, could be that you have shitty ammo, could be that you have a shitty extractor, could be that you have a shitty gun.

>>30505239
Thank you it's out now. What do you think caused it?

>>30505367
DPMS Oracle
Not top of the line. I know. It's all I could afford while in grad school.
American Eagle 5.56

>>30505369
You being a stupid faggot

>>30505369
Post a picture of the boolet. Does it look abnormal? Are there scratches or dents on the brass?

>>30505369
>Thank you it's out now. What do you think caused it?

bad primer (small silver part) in the cartridge

Quick question.... Dis you clean the gun before you used it? Did you scrub the chamber?

>>30505397
There's a scratch on the tip but not on the cartridge

>>30505369
Poorly seated magazine will do this a lot.

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>>30505429
The primer was not struck

>>30505434
It was the first round ever chambered in the gun

Clean the chamver with a chamber brush.
Mark the magazine with a number.
If it happens again try a new magazine.
If it stops with new magazine. Toss the marked one out.

>>30505463
So you didnt clean it?

Go get a chamber brush and some hoppes and clean that fucker.

>>30505463
Did you use clp

>>30505463
Not that poster but, sometimes a gun will be dirty straight from the factory.

They test fire them at the manufacturer and don't clean the rifle and send them out to be sold.

So maybe there was some fouling/dirt left in the chamber that caused this.

>>30505442
What are some obvious signs of this? I'm honestly just here to learn. The owner's manual doesn't cover everything.

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>>30505495
Have the bolt back before you seat the magazine if it is loaded with 30.


But really. If you didnt clean the chamber with a chamber brush before first use. That is the probable cause.

>>30505482
No
>>30505486
No
>>30505494
I've got an Otis cleaning kit that I'll run through it. Are you always supposed to clean a brand new gun? Again, I'm here to learn.

>>30505294
>>30505264
Are you very familiar with guns? It's pretty rare to cause one of these in the course of firing the gun, but itshe very easy to cause one by user error. Or you could be the world's most unlucky man

This is why I want to lurk here for as long as possible.

>>30505520
Thanks I'll get to cleaning it.

>>30505494
A little dirt should not fuck things up if it is wet.

I have cleaned my AR 3 times in 4500 rounds. CLP is my battle buddy.

>>30505521
Yes. Always break down and clean a new gun.

There are 2 reasons. 1. There are offten cutting fluids or anti corrosion fluid left on the gun after manufacturing.

2. Many times there is no lube on the gun.

An otis kit is a good start but a chamber brush. Is a must.


As far as cleaning fluids. There are a million options.


Personally. I use non-chlorinated brake cleaner, to spray the gun down.

Then i use hoppes 9 or sweets and apply that with a rag / patch to every inch.

Let it sit for a
10 min, then wipe it off. And patch the barrel till the patchea come out clean.

After that i use a good gun oil or clp. ( cleaner lubricat and protection) to lube the gun. And a small amount on a rag to wipe the gun down.

>>30505541
Did you pull the charging handle back and release it or did you pull it back and slowly let it forward? If you rode it forward you probably didn't let it seat all the way and induced the malfunction. I had this same issue going from bolt actions to AR platform.

>>30505523
Very familiar? No. I've been to the range a good bit. Most of the guns I own are revolvers that my grandfather willed to me. I can dissemble and clean them all. I've shot semi autos before, but never performed maintenance on them.

Like I said, I went out and bought one in response to the nonsense happening in DC. I'm all about self-teaching, but I'd rather ask then learn by major fuck ups.

>>30505556
I bet you cleane it when you first got it. Or at least lubed it up.

Also your a bad man. Clean your raifu and treat her well.

>>30505264
I was just kiddin man. Who made the gun anyway? Its possible that the rifling has engaged the bullet, and that is why its hard as fuck to get out. Now if the BCG closes on top of it and keeps jumping the case rim, then you gonna need to ID the problem.

And I dont think Gander MTN is gonna let you walk into the store with a LOADED gun lol.

>>30505573
I pulled and released

>>30505573
This. Dont rise the chargin handle.


Better way is to lock the bolt back. Insert magazine. Then hit the bolt release.


Dont worry you didnt fuck up any thing other than your pride.

Clean it. Lube it. Shoot it.

>>30505611
Rise= ride

>>30505204
1. that round isn't live,
2. it's stuck as fuck because it ripped the rim off

You need a cleaning rod

>>30505585
Do you Ean arsenal though they handle a bit different than most other rifles. See >>30505611

>>30505204
Get rod. Hit fucker hard. Cycle more rounds. If happens again, ask someone who knows what the fuck happened and fix issue.

>>30505593
The round is out now.

I'm a grad student so I bought what I could afford. I bought a DPMS Oracle with a magpul forward grip and a barska scope.

>>30505225
>mill

please stop talking about things you know nothing about

>>30505305
that's a failure to extract, not eject

>>30505451
the one in your picture sure as fuck is and it's missing the rim

>>30505621
See
>>30505451

>>30505590
I lubed it with CLP and cycled the action 50 times.

>Also your a bad man.
I lube it up with lots of CLP every time I go shooting. Zero malfunctions of any kind and wear is light. Why change what works?

>>30505648
Clearly all that education didn't make you realize you should read the manual to the deadly weapon you just purchased before operation.

>>30505660
looks like a completely different bullet considering the one in your picture has a dimpled primer

>>30505674
Also, I really enjoy having a rifle that is %100 functional with a history of not being babied. You can't put a price on this peace of mind.

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>>30505652
Left- bullet that was stuck
Right- bullet straight from the box

>>30505688
It is. In my OP I said pic related. I couldn't get a good pic of mine.

>>30505693
yeah you can, it's called spending more on your rifle
About $1000 and you'll have that peace of mind

>>30505710
so you should have said pic wasnt yours
Because pic related would mean that your pic is the pic of your bullet

Sounds to me like you babied the charging handle forward despite what you've said above

Let it fly, smash the FA and go to town

>>30505715
most retarded post of the day goes to...

Op. Nust clean it. Chamber and all.
Lube it up. ( you tube if you need help)
Dont ride the charging handle

Have fun.

You bought what you could afford. Dont listen to the haters

>>30505715
>Implying I went cheap
kek

I like and own lots of expensive things anon. Just because something is expensive doesnt mean it is reliable. A proven machine is always more valuable than a new carefully crafted machine.

>>30505741
Thanks man

>>30505749
>Just because something is expensive doesnt mean it is reliable

Didn't say it was, but PWS, Aero, Prime Weaponry, DSA, Midwest industries, and ALG make good reliable parts that can build you a gun under $1000

>>30505793
and smith, ruger and others make reliable rifles as well.

>>30505807
I was talking about custom/home built but yeah, that works too

>>30505652
>please stop talking about things you know nothing about
if you are gonna pretend to be a mechanical engineer, at least get ur terms right cunt. How do you think a chamber chamfer is made?

>the one in your picture sure as fuck is and it's missing the rim
oh wait, you cannot even read the OP. Dont bother replying.

>>30505771
Maybe you should return it for store credit, and then get a Colt 6920. You really can't beat the lifetime warranty to original owner they have.

>>30505741
Sure you can.

Stag has a life time transferable warranty ,covers shipping both ways, and will replace a shot out barrel.

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>>30505204
>AR
>jams
that's normal brah, it's the main feature of AR

>>30505815
>How do you think a chamber chamfer is made?

yes, with the compound slide on a lathe or if it's CNC it simply uses the z and x axes to extrapolate the proper angle

Ive had 2 FTEs with my AR. They were both spent rounds. What I did was
Place rifle muzzle up
Poured oil down the barrel from the mzzle
Poured a ton of oil
More oil
let it sit overnight
more oil
take a cleaning rod, try to hammer the round out form the muzzle
more oil
let it sit overnight again
pounded it again
flip it over, take off upper and take out the BCG & CH
put something down to absorb the oil
take a flathead screwdriver, try to wiggle out the casing

This is how I do it, rinse and repeat til its out.

>>30505838
Will Gander Mountain do this?

If you don't have a scope on your rifle and have just irons and a red dot sight, how are you supposed to get this shit scoped in?

>>30505984
>muh extra features
go back to that cringy anime skin AR general

>>30505951
A little kroll
A brass rod
And a mallet

>>30505922
>yes, with the compound slide on a lathe or if it's CNC it simply uses the z and x axes to extrapolate the proper angle
good job using google.
and what is this process of cutting metal called??? fuckin retard.

>>30505951
why? just get it out while its still hot. its worse to wait until the barrel and case cool, and then its basically pressfit from metal contraction. Just use your cleaning rod, and spear it down there so inertia gets the case unstuck.

>>30505970
Google their return policy

>>30505984
What do you mean 'scoped in'?

>>30505984
You mean zeroing?

>>30506059

Machinist here, definitely not milling. You mill on a mill with a tool called a, get this, mill. To put a chamber in a barrel you use a reamer, usually on a lathe, but *could* be done on a mill with a lot more effort, indicating, and time. Wanna know what this operation is called? Reaming.

>>30505279
FTE, not a double feed.

>>30505793
Sure, anything can be reliable. But as far as an individual machine goes. I think having a history or reliability is more important than having a guarantee or a belief.

Personally I went with all upper end BCM stuff.

The second problem is once you have something as proven reliable, how long does it stay that way. I think this is where quality of components really comes in.

>>30506218
>Zeroing
No, it is not an airplane. How do I get the scope matched to the rifle?

>>30505204
lock the bolt to the rear, rip the magazine out (it will be fine, unless it's a shitty aluminum GI mag, in which case if it's not fine you can bend the feed lips back into place anyway), now rack the charging handle a couple times until the live round falls out, and the bolt closes on the round in the chamber, then yank it back again until it extracts properly

Now buy an Extractor upgrade kit, and install it using youtube videos as a guide.

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>>30506059
turning, boring, drilling

Milling uses a mill

here's a pic of my floating reamer holder i made on a LATHE

old pic so unfinished state

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>>30506285
>>30506059
and this is milling

>>30506274
>THIS.
The sooner you do this the better. As another anon said, the worst thing you can do is let the chamber cool and shrink on the case.

>>30506285
What's the inside look like?

Can you describe it for me?
I want to make one eventually, when I get around to buying a blank to profile and chamber.

I was going to do something like this one: http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/barrel-tools/barrel-chamfering-accessories/dave-reamers-floating-reamer-holder-prod7742.aspx

The three set-screws are slightly loose so it floats around on them, and will press against the three bolts to keep from turning

I fear your design might want to cant up or down unnaturally, just from what I can see.

as in, a sloped line from the tail-stock center to below the chuck, that kind of "unnatural cant"

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>>30506323

>>30506323
buy one
Don't bother making your own floating reamer holder
More trouble than it's worth and won't be as good

I don't have a print for it anymore

It wasn't finished
It has an added screw in the face to prevent rotating and the rear was turned to a morse taper

I'm not sure what cant there would be though
This is dead center of the lathe and walks upward to follow the bore

>>30506344

A better explanation of what I am worried about happening with your design is, notice the other designs can free float all around, except not being parallel to the bore.

It could be left of the bore, right of the bore, up, down, but never non-parallel to the bore of the spindle.

>>30506285
Not to be a picky cunt, but you can also mill with a lathe.

Just get a vise for your cross-slide with up and down travel.

>>30506285
what suppressor is this?

>>30506349
the design of mine allows it to shift anywhere around the bore, are you saying it wouldn't tilt?
it can tilt a little bit, but you want to indicate your bore with bore mandrels to prevent as much of that as possible

Gordy Gritters shows the best way of doing it because lol curved bores

>>30506361
>Just get a vise for your cross-slide with up and down travel.

Not sure how you'd use an end mill on it
being as the rotating part would pretty much disallow you from doing any kind of milling

>>30505204
I had the same issue with my Smith and Wesson 300 blackout. If this happens just put a rag in the chamber of the gun and stuff it well. Then feed a cleaning rod through the muzzle and place the gun on the floor. Now GENTLY tap the butt of the gun with the cleaning rod hitting a wall. A few good bumps will get your round out. Just make sure your safety is on and try not to hit the action.

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>>30506367
r u dum

This pic is certainly not my design for a multi gun multi oil filter solvent trap adapter

14x1 lh, 1/2x28, 5/8-24, and I forget the other one

>>30505269
durrrrrrr how to make a worth-a-fuck video duuuuurrrrr just point the camera anywhere durrrrrr cant even see whats going on, dildo.
what the fuck was that? annoying and the whole world can see you on youtube doing that shit and owning guns at the same time. durrrrrrrr

>>30505269
that's not a double feed though
that's a failure to extract

>>30506274
How noticeable will an upgraded extractor be on a DPMS Oracle?

>>30506426

You're thinking with the part on the chuck, instead, put the tool in the spindle with a collet and use it not unlike a horizontal mill. Its a little fucky, but it works if you absolutely cannot use a mill.

>>30506466
Which one is it? I honestly want to learn to I can prevent/fix issues myself.

>>30505232

...well....that escalated quickly

>>30506218
probably, yes
getting used to terminology

>>30506546
the term fucky doesn't begin to describe it
fuck indicating that

>>30506548
double feed means 2 rounds out of the magazine at once
One round behind the other is a failure to extract

>>30506576
I'm 99% sure your malfunction is user error. Go read up everything you can about it before you go to the range again. In 4 >reddit but r/ar15 has some good resources on this

>>30506593

Truth. And if you don't have vertical travel, you get to use gauge blocks. But hey, now you know just one more 'hold my calipers' trick.

>>30506593
Thanks man. How do I prevent/fix failure to extract on a rifle that has never been fired? Do like everybody else has said and not baby the charging handle?

>>30506626
I don't WANT to know that trick
That's the kind of shit that I do on my cars

>pulling off steering knuckle
>don't have strut compressor
>jack and a 2x4 instead

I don't do that kind of shit with my $30 a piece end mills

>>30506641
Load the mag and give it a sharp tap to make sure it's seated. Pull back the charging handle all the way and let her rip

>>30505204
Pull the charging handle back while bumping the butt stock against a hard surface.

>>30506641

Best bet is if shit is getting stuck in the chamber, up the strength on your extractor. I don't mean go out and buy some super high strength tacticool kit, go down to the hardware store, get a small o ring from the plumbing section thatll fit around your extractor spring, and bam, increased extractor strength. To prevent any other issues in the future, a basic way to take care of an ar is this:

Dont slather the whole bolt carrier in clp, just get some white lithium grease, smear a little along the rails at the top and bottom of the carrier. Put it in the rifle. With the rifle assembled and bolt closed, look in the ejection port, see the three holes, put a drop of oil on each of those. Rack the bolt back and forth a few times.

Thats proper lubrication. You should have no issues if you do that and clean every 500 rounds, use a mag in good working order, and dont switch between polymer coated steel ammo and brass in the middle of a range trip (that shit can cause a stuck casing like this as well)

>>30505204
Strip mag, cycle to see if you can get the round out, and try again. If it happens a couple more times, stop, and strip the rifle when it's cool, then take apart the bolt carrier group. I had the same problem, turns out the pin holding in the extractor shattered, so you might need to stock up on some.

>>30506537
It wont be.

>>30506743
Not lubing the lugs.... I always put just a smidge of moly on them.

And a little on the upper race way.

>>30506537
You won't notice it at all because it will work perfectly.

>>30506691
Yeah that's just one reason to use a lathe as a lathe.

Cheap tooling.
A triangle indexable carbide cutter is like $15, and you get 3 points on it. A $250 carbide end-mill could do the same job, but it would be foolish not to use the lathe for it if you can.

>>30505204
2016 AR meme still going strong

>>30506691
It's not that much of a "trick" per se..

Put the collet chuck on, insert an end-mill, buy a milling attachment, use the dials as before, with a smaller table.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlas-lathe-milling-attachment-in-original-box-/131862071238

>>30505204
>buys an AR
>AR shit happens

What was your expectation?

Buy a few 5 gallon drums of Crisco, keep one strapped to your back whenever you use it. You'll thabk me later.

But seriously ARs have to be lubed and maintained. Great gun in most other regards.

>>30507167
his extractor failed, it slipped off the round in the chamber and tried tochamber another round, which slammed into the back of it.

I don't think lack of lubrication would cause this type of malfunction.

>>30507224
He didnt clean or lube his new rifle.

This is what happens

>>30507097
You think investing in a firearm which has almost 100% parts and ammunition compatibility with the small arms of the united states military is a meme? Okay slavaboo, I hope you enjoy your AK.

>>30505240
You clearly don't know what a squib is.

Looks like a double feed to me. Why didn't you just add more lube and try again? Did you even take it apart and clean it before firing?

>>30505204
That's a youtube thumbnail.

>>30507548
Lurk more

>>30507080
>A triangle indexable carbide cutter is like $15, and you get 3 points on it.

Nigga that's expensive
I think I pay $7 a triangle
And it's good shit too
Only ever broken or dulled one because I was dumb and smashed it into something

>>30507116
NIGGER
RIGGING

>>30505570
Otis makes a bunch of nice kits. I have this one and it has a chamber brush. I highly recommend it.

http://www.otistec.com/pc_product_detail.asp?key=117073B967C543339FAF8822469CDCE5

>>30507990
Oh and also it has a rod to clear stuck cases like what the op says he's dealing with. That's one reason I got this kit vs the smaller round ones. Sure stuck cases should be super rare with a good gun and ammo but still, if I rip the rim off a case I want the ability to clear it myself.

>>30505570
You are faaarrr too anal.

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>>30505269

>>30505204
Lock the bolt back, remove magazine, clear

>>30505204
At least the cartridge didn't completely rupture, blow out the bottom of the magazine, and have a piece of brass completely stuck in the chamber.

>>30506612
thanks, I'll give a read

>>30505264
Dude, you didn't eve clean the storage goop out of that chamber now, did you? Go get a cleaning kit ffs

>>30505204
>Asking /k/ how to clear a jam

Pretty sure that's covered in the manual OP.