CALIFORNIA IS CANCELLED

>>30467620
Press F to pay respects.

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>>30467620
Woofta...

You wouldn't believe the morning I had.

So what did I miss?

>>30467620
So ive got an ar-15 with a bullet button. What happens now? I'm sure as hell not turning my shit in or making it featureless.

How would this effect online interstate ammo sales? Hell, is it time to open an ammo store on this side of the California border?

>>30467642
Expost facto motherfucker.

You beat the clock. Your gun is legal and always be legal because laws cannot be applied retroactively.

>>30467652
Now illegal in California.

As is importation from other states.

>>30467639
falsely reporting lost/stolen guns is now illegal

To all non-California bros, I have a question.

What should we fucking do? None of you want us in your states, but we have no where left to go or we supposedly end up in prison. There's nothing we can do at this point.

>>30467656
You realize they just banned possession of hi-caps in this legislation right? Even for grandfathered in users.

California doesn't give a shit about ex post facto

>>30467642
replace it with an armaglock or wait to see what else comes out in the coming months.

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A lot of his reasons for vetoing the bills he did was because it would hinder law abiding citizens. But then why did he sign the bills he did, they hinder law abiding citizens the most. The logic doesn't make sense.

>>30467642
>>30467656
it makes possession of a unregistered assault weapon a crime and makes a bullet button AR an assault rifle. might as well put the old mag release back on.

>>30467679
I'm gonna be honest, just move over here man, southern hospitality.

>>30467660

> importing is illegal

Unless they plan on setting up roadblocks for full vehicular searches, so the fuck what?

>>30467642
Yeah, I was reading that. What's the alternative to a bullet button AR? Like literally no magazine?

>>30467690
Challenge it in court.

Appeal all the way to supreme if you have to. Expost Facto is written into the constitution, the supreme law of the land.

>>30467679
Find some Korean bros and start voting from the rooftops. The revolutions gotta start somewhere.

>>30467712
>Unless they plan on setting up roadblocks for full vehicular searches
have you ever drove into ca?

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I have just about had it with this fucking state, I'm going to Virginia or Texas

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I fucking hate this place.

>>30467714
they literally said to sell them or turn them in.

>>30467670
How does one falsely report a stolen gun?

Not that I would...but would my AR become extremely valuable here?

>>30467712
Kansas did that for a bit after Colorado legalized dude weed lmao. They only set up on the interstate though so it was easy enough to avoid.

>>30467713
>>30467700
https://www.armaglock.com/

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>tfw don't live in commiefornia

>>30467714
The Supremes aren't going to be able to help now that Scalia's dead.

>>30467740
idk. i only commented because saying you lost it in a boating accident is now a crime.

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>mfw none of these laws are enforced in the central valley

wew

>>30467679
>>30467719
I haven't. Is it some kind of foreign land?

>>30467741
No, it's either illegal or featureless bullshit,

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Is this going to be the final battle? California bros oppose the law take it to the supreme Court?

>>30467620
Christ in Heaven.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-california-lawmakers-send-broad-package-1467318789-htmlstory.html

"Long gun limits: Only one rifle or shotgun could be purchased per month "

>>30467679
If you actually vote for Libertarian/Republican candidates, please do move to a swing state. Your vote won't matter in California. However, a Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico or even Texas soon enough could use your vote to stem the blue tide.

Also, if the type of people leaving California are white, law-abiding and producers for society, all that will be left there is a heaping pile of shit. At which point, maybe people will realize the failure of liberal politics.

Or maybe the liberals will migrate east soon after as well and fuck things for the rest of the country as well. Who knows.

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>>30467679
YOU DO NOT ALLOW THIS, AND FUCK ANYONE WHO SAYS TO DISOWN YOUR STATE

We are all Americans, we are all in this together. We DO NOT abandon our countrymen, nor sit idly by and watch as their rights are trampled. California is just as American as New Hampshire or Arizona, and just because some statist communists are in power there does not change this.

Everyone here needs to contact their representatives, write to the NRA and similar organizations. If they wont do anything, you guys need to start your own committee, that actually fucking will.

Take cards from their playbook, tell your friends and neighbors about how this isnt fucking working months from now when it inevitably doesn't fucking work and crime stays the same or increases.

When one of you is inevitably arrested and charged with a high crime from having a weapon, publicize this to the best of your ability. Explain to the useful idiots in your society that the issue isnt left versus right, but STATE versus US.

Daily reminder that in cases of conflicting statements, Federal Law trumps state law, hence this whole thing is completely illegal per our constitution.


Its also probably a good idea to read books like "Resistance To Tyranny" and "Understanding 4th Generation Warfare" for educational purposes, just in case things actually kick off over there for some reason, although I dont and never would condone anything in those books being done here.

>>30467765
Wait, really?

>>30467620
Riddle me this. Will I now need a license to reload my own ammo? How about if I sold some of the reloaded ammo? Would it be a full FFL license just to produce my own ammo?

This opens a new whole world of fuckery.

>>30467739
Well then, guess you gotta fall back on FMCDH.

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>>30467771
yes

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Cheap commieforninan surplus about to hit the market.

>>30467757

Even the literal justices don't like it when states trample on precedent. Now California is pissing on their trees.

>>30467719

Really? Trunk searches without a warrant? Going to need some dogs trained in sniffing gun powder for that, and it's going to play hell with wait time on that interstate.

Plus, not like my venue is under scrutiny. Sucks for Cali, but sounds like it's time to offer ammo at slightly over Arizona/Nevada/Oregon market value.

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>laws get passed
>gun crime statistic pooling data shifted to make it look like crime went down in 5-10 years
>LOOK AT WHAT CALIFORNIA DID LETS DO THAT ON A FEDERAL LEVEL

To all you non cuckifornians: why are you pleased to hear this?

This is nothing but bad news nationwide

>>30467705
That's the reason, all the gungrabbers and gunhaters in politics want to make it easier to oppress the people, less guns allows them to sleep easy knowing that they decreased the probability of a powerful, unsupressable revolt against a corrupt official

>>30467794

Selling reloaded ammo is already a felony without a Manufacturing FFL.


Yes you will need a license to reload ammo now.

>>30467765
EXPLAIN

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>>30467679
So long as you vote pro gun you're welcome in my state. In the meantime fight the good fight calibro.

>>30467810
I've literally never not been wove through driving from Nevada to California. They probably only search big trucks that could be used to smuggle a lot of produce.

My ar is on the 10 day waiting period in my local gun store. Am I safe or did I just miss it?

>>30467791

Go away, Lind. Your theory is shit, and you're never getting those Russian WW2 tanks you wanted either.

>>30467819
More like >Anyone who calls the cops gets kicked out of their apartment for disturbing the peace.

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pls dont make wa worse

>>30467740

I'd love to see them try to prove that your gun wasn't really stolen. They can barely prove REAL break-ins in which one comes up while the plaintiff is already fleeing.

And OP, don't you EVER give up your guns. Bury them, send them out of state, do ANYTHING that keeps in them free hands because you don't want to be defenseless when AWB 2 Electric Boogaloo begins and your rights begin being taken awway

>>30467787
Some dude in another thread told me to fuck off when I said I've voted libertarian my whole life and want to move to Arizona. we're unwanted wherever we look.

>>30467745
It didnt work at all.

Why would any cali fag buy a CA complient gun when Nevada is right there?

>>30467856
voting lolbertarian is throwing your vote away

>>30467819
>laws get passed
>San Bernadino happens

Don't get me wrong, fuck these laws, but statistics will never be on their side.

>>30467842
wtf are you even talking about?

>>30467787
Add north carolina to that list. We have plenty of jobs, and are fighting the blue menace as well.

>>30467679
Just wait till minmum wage hikes to 15 bucks an hour. Then cali is super fucked

>mfw spics vote to disarm themselves
California is worse fornia

>>30467791
California has made it obvious that they don't respect the American way of life, what we need it a way to impeach the officials, bring power back to the people

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"heavily armed Gun nuts resist violently against the law, shot and killed along with his family taken hostage.

Multiple criminal terrorists organisation have formed up and tried to arm themselves against the government, but they are currently under arrest and will be judged for incitation to hate and violence, criminal association and suspicion of planning terrorist activities.

This follow the Californian Heavy Assault Weapon Ban, aimed at stopping criminal and terrorists to strike clubs and schhool, and make streets safe again.

Senator congratulate himself for...

Pic kind of related.

>>30467642
Moldy labias time.

>>30467793
>>30467833
Not that anon, but here in Kern County the Sheriff is pro-gun as fuck. Shall Issue CCW, and I've never seen a cop look twice at my 30Rd mags or 100 round drums at the range.

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Is it still legal to order uppers online?

Fuck I'm going to college in California

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>>30467893
Yes.

WE DO NOT SURRENDER ONE STATE THEM under ANY conditions! We wouldn't give it to the Russians, we wouldnt give it to the Koreans, and we won't give it to Communism under the guise of an American flag either!

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. If the rest of us let this happen, it WILL be coming to the rest of the US as well.

Texas stands with you, Calibros!

>>30467841
You already purchased it so you should be good.

>>30467898
moar liek
>Federal Government supports groups of California rebels trying to take down the Communist States of California.

>>30467710
>>30467787

What state is this where a weeb, gun owning, loner with $15K, no debt, no college degree but genuine work experience is welcome?

>>30467917
It still has to be in a legal configuration come Jan 2017. That means featureless or some sort of fixed mag (no BB).

This thread reminds me of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOCkyM2ghvE

>>30467679
Live in the woods i guess or away from big cities so they cant do anything about you

>>30467944
OR they have to register it as an assault weapon. He's fine for now, he will just be on countless watchlists along with everyone whose owned a Cali legal AR until 2017.

I'm moving ASAP, is Wyoming open?

>>30467679
LEAVE FOREVER BUT FONT BRING THAT LIBERAL SHIT WITH YOU

>>30467714
I thought that meant that if you did something in the past that suddenly became illegal, then you can't get in trouble.

However, Im pretty sure they can still outlaw things like guns, owning it in the past isn't a crime, but continuing to own it would be unlawful.

>>30467963
Careful, they might cry and whine that a conservative who was born and raised in California might move into their state even though they agree on the same values and constitutional rights.

Californian here just to tell you all to fuck off. I'm sorry your 18th century mentality doesn't fly anymore, but California is heading to the future. Don't try to pull us back, we're tired of shootings.

>>30467993
That sure stopped the San Bernadino shooters, didn't it?

Oh wait.

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>New gun laws are passed
>THIS IS IT! THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW!
>TIME TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING THIS TIME!
>do nothing
>time passes
>the cycle repeats
>>30467950

Califag going to school in AZ here. I'm coming home next week to buy a ar15 stripped lower. Is that not possible anymore? I'm bringing the ar15 with me and completing it in Arizona. I'm getting residency in AZ, so my "illegal" AR15 will never see California ever again.

I also blame the fucked up voting districts. The fucking libfags in LA and SF run the fucking state into the ground.

>>30468001
Fuck off back to your shithole empire you fucking piece of shit

The ammo bill is by far the worst part. Seems reasonable but it effectively makes ammunition fuckspensive (if it isn't already) and limits you to LGS purchases only. Good thing I'm on good terms with a few and can probably special order through them, but fuck, annual Nevada trip is looking like a good option too...

>>30468001
Get an 80% lower to be safe.

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>>30467908

This pretty much desu

Regards, Bakersfield

>mfw got pulled over once and sherriff asked to see my 5.45 Saiga with normal-cap magazines and no bullet button and asked how much it cost to convert it and how much work went into it

>>30467993

> Californian here
> Being anti-gun all day on /k/

Come on, son. Don't agitate. We've got enough people on hair triggers these days.

>>30467856
Because voting 3rd party is a spoiler

Also, AnClaps are laughable

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>>30467956
I'm a few years out from being a police officer, so I'll be let into the cool kids club and be a first class citizen. Fucking christ this state sucks. I feel guilty for leaving the stuggle with all my gun bros.

>>30467999

everyone that really gave a shit already left, leaving the rest of us to deal with this shit on our own.

>>30467758
>saying you lost it in a boating accident is now a crime
What do you even need a gun on a boat for anyways? Fishing? Self defense form swim-by gangbangers? Fucking kayaker shits?

If you go on a boat with a gun, fucking secure it.

>>30468001
Go back to mexico

I've lived in California in the same, conservative city for all my life. What states want me there? I promise I won't push any agenda on you other than the freedom to do whatever you want. I also have actual work experience and no debt.

>>30468017
Doesn't the CHP have checkstops on the border?

>>30468012
>voting districts set up so that it's basically hard-set democrat win
>people who are stuck on the losing side/too young to have had a chance to stop the momentum want out
>"lol no fuck you"

>>30467620
So when do these go into effect?

>>30467908
>>30468021

At one time I managed all the internet marketing for a gun shop chain that has a location in Bakersfield.

One of our stores, I think that one, got broken into by teenagers at night and it resulted in a massive police standoff.

That was fun.

>>30468021
I've been eyeing Bakersfield for years because it's close to the people I know but far from the shitty cities. Too bad my line of work isn't really a thing there.

I saw this coming, good thing i stocked up on ammo while i could

>>30468066
We don't want limp dick sons of bitches here who'll just cave in due to pressure and do nothing to improve their own state. I've yet to see you pathetic and emasculated excuses for gun owners parade while armed a la black panthers in front of everyone so who's to say you niggers won't cave in and do the same shit in other places that you let happen in your own fucking state. You're not welcome here so fuck right out

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>>30467785

>>30468012
Fuck you, asshole. I've always voted for the GOP. I'm from Orange County, not some shit democrat controlled county.

>>30467791
>"Understanding 4th Generation Warfare"
God damn it Lindy nobody wants your shit.

>>30468097
Who the fuck is lindy?

>>30468093
If OC is so great, then why is it such a bitch to get a CCW here?

>>30467785
Goddamn, we should get a shipping /k/ompany going running guns from Oregon or Washington, Black Lagoon style. This is getting ridiculous.

>>30467911
not a firearm

>>30467856
do some shrooms or something and abandon all things that make you, you. make yourself anew, because the california vibe is ingrained in you bastards, it doesnt easily leave.

>>30467830
what, even small time shit? like sellling loosie cigarettes?

>>30467829
I dont think that even occurs to them, they are so set in their thinking that bureaucracy is the only way to accomplish anything, they literally have no idea what arab spring was about until you remind them

>>30468093
I don't give a fuck what you are. There's hispanic immigrants more american than you in my state, and that's a fact. Get right the fuck back from where you came from you fucking pinko

>>30468110
If it's so great why didn't he fucking stay there?

>>30468106
You're not fooling anyone, go back to jerking off to gay nazi porn, you god-fearing white christian marine.

>>30467620
State of Jefferson when

>>30468019
They made 80% lowers illegal too.

Guess I will be taking that job in Missouri after all. Good bye california, I won't miss you.

>>30467620

>Semi-autos effectively banned, all of them.

So when they come for the mosin-nagant next, are you going to rise up, or register your illegal assault bolt guns?

>>30468155
He vetoed that one

>>30468155
fuckin hell, but I saw that coming. what about AK flats?

>>30468001
I welcome you, don't be a fucking chad like every other Californian that goes to school here. And don't vote to decrease any freedom in my state, shit out your liberal ideas and leave them at home.

>>30468106

William Lind, aka Thomas Hobbes (oh the irony considering 'Leviathan'), aka "Light infantry rules, combined arms drools", aka "Desert Storm never happened, guys".

>>30468169
Don't listen to>>30468155, was vetoed.

>>30467620
I think we over loaded the server, link dose not work.

>>30468063
Yes but they are shit. I have been through one and I'm autistic and suspicious as fuck.

"Where are you coming from"
"Um......Arizona?"
"Carry on citizen"

In retrospect I was nervous because it's a stupid question.

wonder how much mini14s will go up now

>>30467723
It's a nice place, southern VA in particular for guns and mountains

>>30468166
idk about you, but I would just replace my gasblocks with adjustable ones and dial the gas all the way off, fully functioning single action rifle shouldnt need to have gay neo bulletbutton features should it?

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Commiefornian here, could I go out right this minute and buy an AR, and keep it?

>>30467679
Create a capsule in a non suspicious casing, preserve your guns and hide them

>>30468012
>shithole empire
The fuck?

I had a dream.

We should go find all the gang bangers in CA. Teach them how to build AR's. Give them parts, magazines, ammo, training. Then unleash them on California.

>but-bu... we banned all the assault weapons
>wuz_kangs.wav
>well i guess it is your culture and we don't have any right to comment on it
>execution.mp3

Then we can come back in, steamroller over the gangs and make california great again with people who are willing to take back the wasteland.

>>30467943
Virginia. Especially virginia beach

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screw you sac state! I'm going to Texas!

>$10,000 a year tuition and fees!
>A&M name
>campus carry

Join me California college students!

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ALRIGHT BOYS I GOTTA GO BUY AN AR BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. I HATE THIS STATE.

>>30467993
Faggot here.*

Don't speak for those of us who want out of the shithole that your polluted, defective mindset has created.

Shootings are a mental health issue; notice how all the mass shootings started up once psychological institutions mostly stopped being a thing?

Also the rate of shootings- not just 'mass' shootings- has plummeted steadily since 1990 nationwide, even in places where gun laws have loosened,

Also a mass shooting isn't a 'mass' shooting if it's less than 5-10 people, so stop trying to redefine a mass shooting as when 'more than one person is shot'.

I don't know about you but I'd rather have 10 or so San Bernadino-esque shootings a year than 8,000 random gun homicides.

360 dead or wounded a year, versus 8,000 dead.

But since the latter looks scarier on the news, you impotent asshole, I'm sure you'll claim you want the former then you'll point to it on the news and shriek and cry in terror.

Do the world a favor and just kill yourself. You aren't contributing anything to society. You aren't contributing anything to your relatives. You are a cancer stripping the rights of about 30 million people.

Every death caused by someone wanting a gun but being unable to get one in this state is on your and your ilk's hands.

>>30468207
Yes. Your options come Jan 2017 are to configure it to be featureless, install something like an ARmaglock, or register it as an AW.

>>30467993
You won't stop any shootings with this and you know it.

So, anybody in Sacremento call the FBI to make sure NICS is up to the task of running a background check every time anyone buys ammo in Cali?

Crash that system and who knows who will get a gun when their 72 hour waiting period expires.

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>>30468254
So basically I have to register as an AW, which it isn't, and I can keep any fancy shit I put on it?

>>30468211
Jax Teller, is that you?

>>30468163
Where at, soon-to-be Missouri-bro?

>>30468278
Kansas City

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If my parents didn't live in CA I would leave this garbage state tonight.

>>30468289
Meh, but still better than Cali.

>>30468167
>>30468185
Oh, well that's good to know. Don't know why the fuck the gun page I read talking about it listed that one, then.

>>30468050
Pirates.

Or suppose someone decides to go on a shooting spree from a boat. Of course, it would be pretty hard, it would be a shot in the dark just trying to guess what type of gun would be well suited, as there sure as hell aren't any guns designed for use around around water, except some crippled, primitive, science-project-level flechette shit, but, seriously, anything could happen! You need to be ready.

>>30468301
Whats wrong with KC?

>>30468271
Assault weapons can be anything, because they can be used to assault people. Assault rifles are automatic rifles. Two very different definitions.

>>30468271
Would probably be easier to go with the ARmaglock honestly assuming that fulfills the legal requirement of fixed mag given BB is no longer allowed.

Then just keep a spare normal maglock for SHTF, and just deal with that shitty new lock for going to range.

>>30467620
It's nice to see some common sense gun regulation getting passed in this nation. Once Hillary is in office and we get that 5th liberal supreme court justice then we can make real progress to making America safer.

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>>30468315
Senpai I have to essentially open the gun in order to change mags. In a combat scenario that's a lot of time. Why can't my state let me have a gun that I can shoot with ease.

>>30468306
Traffic, sprawl, half of it is Kansas, the rest of it doesn't measure up to St. Louis in terms of things to do. Not that I'd live in St. Louis either, but it's a nice place to visit.

>>30468329
>T. Californian Gun Owner

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>>30467908
Another Bakersfield anon here.
Hold me bros

>>30468337
because you let it

>>30468329
(You)

Does it feel better than getting attention as a child?

>>30468264
Oh my fuck, if California crashes NICS with background check requests on ammunition would that halt firearms transfers across the nation?

>>30468339
I'm coming from the california bay area, I doubt the traffic will bother me.

From my point of view anything is better than where I'm at.

>California has all the hottest fat bitches
>is now australia 2.0 for nogunz

Well guess I'm staying in Missouri, might get myself a HK91

>>30468357
California has its own background check system.

>>30468305
Pirates, angry orcas, Russian fishing trawlers...

>>30468374
Asian boats fighting over fishing territory in order to attract a mate.

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>>30467620
>my state needs gun control passed at the state level to have anything done because we banned gun control by county
>no one has ever came and wanted gun control in my state
>live right near california
>just watching the flames

>>30468384
Arizona?

>>30468395
[spoiler]Nevada[/spoiler]

>>30468373

And every time it runs, it makes a query to the NCIS database as well.

>>30468401
Keep up the good fight bro

and to all you fucking commiefornians? Stay the fuck out

>>30468118
>I dont think that even occurs to them, they are so set in their thinking that bureaucracy is the only way to accomplish anything, they literally have no idea what arab spring was about until you remind them
I think you're right, but I don't know how liberals think so I'll have to take you word for it

>>30467758
But unlike with the Veto'd "You have 5 days law", this time they have to prove you actually didn't lose the gun or illegally sold it instead of really losing it or having it stolen.

The other law meant telling them it was lost in a boating accident got you jail cause you illegally didn't tell them. Now they have to trudge the lake hard enough to prove you didn't, or get a warrant and find your hiding spot.

>>30467741
The law signed in means the SALT WEAPON needs to be registered to you and must go with you to the grave. No transfers unless you're selling to someone who lives out of state.

>>30467714
That's not what expost facto means. It just means that if something was legal and is made illegal, you can not get in trouble for what you did before it was illegal.

>>30467810
That's for fucking agriculture you gnome

>mfw sheriff McMahon is super pro 2A
>mfw won't enforce unless it's on dirtbag criminals

So like normal

Hey guys I'm from Arizona, what does the phrase "gun control" mean? I've never heard of it...

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>>30468401

Califag here, don't let those expats shit up your state. Everyone I know who fled there for work is hell bent on turning NV blue.

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>>30468356
No. I'll feel better when Hillary gets to appoint a liberal justice to the supreme court. That means there will be 5 anti gun and 4 pro gun justices.

>tfw you get to see common sense gun control during your life time

>>30467810
You realize they don't search you or anything right? I know people who bring high cap mags back with them whenever they go out of state.

>>30468461
We aren't all like that. When I go to Kansas City I plan on voting Republican straight down the ticket for every election.

>>30468462

I wish to know more. What common sense gun control do you feel like we will see?

>>30468462
(You)

>>30468462
>common sense gun control for uncommon events
Really makes you think

>>30468462
7/10 bait

>>30467679
Stay out of AZ. We got way to many of you faggots already here fucking shit up. Better yet, come here so Sheriff Joe can lock all you Communist fags up in Tent City.

>>30468254
Would an assault weapon be able to use a real mag release?

>>30468511
Yes

>>30467642
I've got an AR I built from an 80% lower, so I just cant take it out in public anymore?

>be shithole debtor state
>"Muh 7th bigg conomy in dah wuuuurl!"
>grow rice in a fucking desert
>main export of note is globalist propaganda and porn
>have shitloads of illegals and blacks
>they cause the highest number of gun murders in the country
>...with illegal black market guns
>ban guns for white people, but do nothing to curb the former because that would be racist

There's a Wall needing built, alright. But not on the border of Mexico.

>>30467723

Go VA, help fight back the blue tide.

Grew up in Northern VA and want to return there when I can get a jerb.

>>30468514
So...then why not just register my m&p and use a real mag release?

Seems counter intuitive if they want these "weapons of war" off the street if I can go back to reloading like normal....

>>30468457
Funny, I'm from AZ as well and have never heard these words spoken.

>>30468518
California may as well BE mexico

>>30468373
Unless you mean California has its own NICS server, that doesn't matter. If they have to call on NICS every time someone buys ammo, that's serious stress on the system

...Can states file suits against other states? My freedom boner would tear a hole in my pants if some free states all filed suit on California for causing damage to commerce.

>>30468499
"Stay out of here! Better yet, come here!"
Arizona's top tier education is shining throughout your post

>>30468532
Liberals and logic don't mix. Like oil and water.

>>30468118
Even a single cartridge is a felony. Don't do it, the ATF doesn't fuck around, and they look for that shit. You wil get fucked.

>>30468499
Fuck you and people like you

>>30468544
Grew up and went to school in Massachusetts asshole. Look up where they sit nationwide for education.

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Even more of a reason to pick one of these up

>>30468560
Hurt some Libfag's feelings I see.

>>30468544
And we love it that way. We're slowly improving our system with our own ways. Sure is great having state rights and the guns to preserve them. Cry more you liberal faggot

>>30467978
Kek

>>30467713
no the intent was to have the magazine welded to the receiver but smart people saw how the bill was worded and realized a bullet button was legal in the wording. Now they said it isnt

>>30467841
You have until the end of the year to buy it. I'm not sure, but I think even if you were retarded enough to buy it on December 30th and picked it up after the 10 days waiting period it'd still be legal

>>30468140
What the fuck are you talking about?

>Always vote pro-gun and GOP
>Stuck in Orange County, a conservative bastion in California
>Voting districts are fucked up, all the power is in LA/SF
>Can't do anything about it but leave
>HURR GO BACK TO YOUR STATE COMMIE LEFTIST HURR DURR

>>30468110
Lots of illegals in north Orange County.

does b/ still have "I'm going to kill myself" threads often?

Those people should all be directed to Newsom's house, or Harris', or any other worthless leftard's house.

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>>30468499
>mfw calibro moving to Arizona in a few weeks

>>30468604
At the very least remove your fucking cali plates

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>>30468614
no

>>30468604
Not like we can't spot you faggots a mile a way.

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>Suddenly very worried I am going to have pic related happen.

>>30468576
How do you know what I am? Just because I'm from California?

>>30468614
They make you. If you live here and have an AZ ID, they will give you like 30 or 45 days to get your gar inspected and registered in AZ or get fined.

>>30468622
Have fun getting your tires slashed then. Was telling you to do so as a friend

>>30468626
Because your state is so flat and you can see them smash through a sign on the highway?

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>>30468626
Nah ill blend in and vote for evey anti gun politician I can

>>30468634
I mean, we can spot FAGGOTS a mile a way.

>>30468648
Of course you can spot your own kind a mile away.

>>30468579
>Cry more you liberal faggot
I'm Arizona. You entirely missed my point. The yokel made an idiotic remark

Why don't you shut up. Better yet, keep talking

>>30468642
Aaron Rodgers is such a fucking pussy.

Whats the best way to get employmemt right after moving?

Im thinking Nevada

>>30468661
We're full

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>>30468659
delete this

>>30468532
That way they know who has an AR when it's inevitably time to confiscate them.

>>30468666
Cry more bitch

>hey can I get a box of 9mm?
>that will be $10 + $25 + taxes
Fuck just kill me.

>>30468667
The only true 12 is the one with four rings.

>Californians getting their shit pushed back no matter where they go

brings a tear to my eye.

>>30468688
They will force us to buy it in bulk

>>30468567
Ares would sell like six times as many if they had a factory wood furniture option.
>fudd friendly
>takes AR mags
>has a rail for tacticool sights

>>30468199

I've gone through via the Reno/Tahoe area dozens of times and aside from easily bypassable medfly checkpoints that only apply to trucks carrying agricultural goods(regular cars are to bypass), I've never encountered a checkpoint.

If I buy a lower right now and build it into a gun later on, will the whole thing be grandfathered in?

>>30468692
The decades of these people saying the West is the best, cali is the shit, etc. is now backfiring on them big time and they are forces to move out in packs.

>>30467620
>http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-governor-signs-stringent-gun-bills-vetoes-40285113
>People will be allowed to keep weapons they already own with bullet buttons, which are often referred to as "California compliant."
better stock up on CA compliant AR-15s before Jan 1, 2017

>>30468567
I am strangely aroused by this

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>>30468462
>Hillary going anywhere but the big house

8/10 bait, made me stop and pic related

>>30468717
Lots of people in California don't say any of that you ignorant nigger

Considering moving to Oklahoma since it seems my family has a FUCKING SHIT LOAD of undeveloped land in Love, OK because Injuns. Mom complained it'd cost to much to get rid of shit like the water moccasins. Like I give a fuck, shit's a deterrent to fuck tards.

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>>30467620
>>30467620
>>30467620
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>30467642
you have to register it, as required by law. in which case, it is in the same category as pre-bullet button assault weapons, meaning you can get rid of the bullet button

of course, you cant use 30 round mags now, because their possession is completely illegal now, no grandfather status. FUCK

>>30467963

Probably. Wyoming has like, 50 people in it.

"Falsely reporting lost or stolen guns (AB 1695): The bill would make it a misdemeanor to falsely report a gun as stolen and also ban the person who reports it from buying another firearm for 10 years. Supporters of the bill say it’s an effort to stop people who sell guns on the black market, after buying them legally and then reporting the weapons stolen. SIGNED."

Better hope they don't start dredging for those "lost in a boating accident"

>>30468700
We need to get a bunch of people to call them and ask if they can start selling a wood furniture model/if they have one available

A smart company will smell a demand and move to meet it.

>>30468766
I thought this was already illegal.

>>30468752
>you have to register it, as required by law
I thought the DOJ wasn't accepting more registrations after the AWB. Or are the books open now?

>NRA got the most donations from California
>didn't lift a finger to help Californians
Well fuck them, I will not be renewing in 2017.

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>>30467642
Remember that 10 day wait and the DROS paperwork you signed? Yeah, they know who you are, where you are, and what you have. They even know how you think.

They're coming.

>>30468361
Not gonna argue with you on that. Good restaurant scene in KC at least. Also the cheaper of the two real airports in the state.

>>30468752
According to Calguns, you need to destroy the lower unless the upper doesn't have:

1. rail
2. flash/noise suppressing device

Lower shouldn't have:

1. pistol grips
2. quick detachable mag release

>>30468499
Hey man. Sheriff Joe is based.
>tfw grew up in Lee Baca's LA County
>tfw voted hard right every time.
>tfw I get called redneck and worse daily
>tfw Tom Petty's "won't back down" is my political theme
>tfw I feel....rage. Hate. And try to educate and give example.
>tfw trans is cool, deviancy is the watchword of the day, and outright gleeful evil is relished and apparent on the faces of the common man
I AM SICK OF IT.

does that mean I can't buy an ar-15 now or do I have time to buy one?

Can I just get an Arizona ID using my parents vacation home address?

>>30468791
I don't blame the NRA one bit on this. Using money to fight this in the state legislature would be stupid as fuck since commies control it so heavily. Your best bet if you are the NRA is to fight it in court.

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Here's my question, do these laws go into place at the start of 2017? Or right fucking now?

>>30467993
6/10

>>30468781
Not that i can find. Only thing I could find about falsely reported guns led back to the article OP posted, and a the few states that require you to file a report if you lost/have stolen a firearm.
If they already had the law on the books why would they have to pass it again?

>>30468770
They have a contact form on their website. Go go go.

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>>30468736
Just looked that shit up, Love is on the Texas border. Wonder if that's a hassle or a feature if I went and lived innafamilywoods

>>30468808
I also live in LA county and i am trans.

I am a gun nut and it appears I am moving out of state soon.

>>30468824
>Not that i can find. Only thing I could find about falsely reported guns led back to the article OP posted
You just did a Google search and didn't even bother to look at California legal code, didn't you?

>>30468789
California salt weapons and Fed salt weapons are completely different things. More or less California is just asking you to go to the police and say, "I own a rifle" so they know who to harass.

>>30468289

kcmo bro.

city is god tier.

I hate new people moving in though because i don't want this place to get too crowded though.

Welcome, nonetheless though. I'm sure you're all right.

>>30468812
end of the year from what everything I've been seeing.

>>30468567
Now this is a fudd friendliesh AR-15. Would look even better if it had a nody like the MAS49/56, FN49, or even an M14 but DI

>>30468796
ITS THE SKS BULLSHIT ALL OVER AGAIN

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_30080331/list-gun-bills-signed-vetoed-by-gov-jerry?source=pkg

List of Bills Vetoed/Signed respectively:

>Passed

Senate Bill 1446, authored by Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, bans possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

SB 1235, authored by Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León, D-Los Angeles, regulates the sale of ammunition by requiring background checks.

SB 880, authored by Sen. Isadore Hall, D-South Bay, and AB1135, authored by Assemblyman Marc Levine, D-San Rafael, ban "bullet buttons" that make it easy to detach magazines.

Assembly Bill 1511, authored by Miguel Santiago, D-Los Angeles, limits the lending of guns to family members who have not completed background checks.

AB 1695, authored by Assemblyman Rob Bonta, D-Oakland, blocks people who have knowingly made false reports on the loss or theft of a gun from possessing firearms for 10 years.

>VETOED

AB 1674, authored by Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, D-Los Angeles, limits the number of long guns Californians can purchase to one a month -- a limit that now applies to handguns.

AB 2607, authored by Assemblyman Phil Ting, D-San Francisco, expands the group of people who may request a gun violence restraining order to include mental health workers, employers, co-workers and school employees.

SB 894, authored by Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, requires the reporting of a lost or stolen gun within a few days.

AB 1673, authored by Assemblyman Mike Gipson, D-Carson, aimed to eliminate the proliferation of so-called "ghost guns," which are manufactured at home and currently don't carry serial numbers.

AB 1176, authored by Cooper, places a measure on the November ballot to amend Proposition 47 by classifying the theft of a firearm as a felony even if the value of the gun is less than $950. (A similar measure will be on the statewide November ballot.)

>>30468835
can I buy up lowers and register them, or does it have to be a complete firearm?

>>30468853
Good, that means I have time to prepare.

Fuck saving money.

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>>30468629
Why do I feel the need tk hunt that family down

Things that will happen now:

1. your guns now die with your if you happen to live in CA.

2. RAW will be sent out beginning of Jan 1, 2017. This means you need to register whatever AR you own as an Assault Weapon. This also means that you can remove the bullet button and put in a normal mag release. You can also register up to 5 30+ round magazines for said AR. So be sure to do this before they close the registration deadline on December 31st 2017.

3. buy your ammo in bulk.

>>30468876
>complying with registration
>ever
Start stockpiling ammo, calibros, because the gun grabbening is coming the day after that window closes.

>>30468050
You ever see Jaws?

>>30468832
We aren't all that masochistic or live in Cali, hits me in the sads seeing those asinine gun laws

>>30468885
Did you DROS your rifle? If you did your name is already on the database. In fact they will be sending a fucking RAW to your home. Unless you plan on breaking the "illegally reporting stolen/loss firearm" law then good luck in Federal Prison.

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>>30468828
WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK. I'm guessing it's retarded injuns, but seems Love is registered 63% Dem and only 23% Rep. I'm hopeful my vote and the rest of the state keeps it from going retard, but fucking hell.

>>30468789
>>30468806
Are you guys in the habit of getting information which could keep you out of prison from second hand sources?

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135

This bill would require that any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined, and including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,

>register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,


>register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,


>register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,

>>30468896
The law that would make it illegal to falsely report a lost gun was vetoed.

>>30468876
Can your kids inherit the gun? That would be fine with me if I can't sell them but my kids get to have them.

>>30467723
I'm currently in NoVa, slowly but surely being invaded. Help us hold them back!

>>30468918
No, that one passed. The one that would make it illegal to not report a stolen gun was vetoed.

>>30468090
Go fuck yourself. Not the guy you were rrsponding to, but most people don't enjoy exercises in futility. The system is rigged against them, and your response is essentially to go complain to the system that it's rigged in hopes that it will stop being rigged. Kid, just move to any state you feel like. People talk about how they'll fight tooth and nail in their state if it happened, but it generally isn't happening in their state and they are speaking out of their ass.

>>30468896
fuck up pussy

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>>30467757
>soon

trumps short list for supreme court nominees are gonna make america great again

>>30468951
A racist blowhard like Trump will never get elected. If anything California is just the beginning, enjoy getting our laws soon.

>>30468862
lowers and register. If that doesn't work, at the very least you'll need to get it "illegal" is a pistol grip and a bullet button to make it "compliant" so add on around 30 bucks per lower on your list if for some reason your local fuck enforcement agency decides it's not salt weapon and can't be registered to dick you. Might even be able to just keep swapping the grip between the lowers and get it all done with with just one grip and bullet button.

Just looked it up, while I wouldn't expect an officer to be clever enough to notice this line, it's also SUPPOSED to be semi auto, but again, just have an upper so you can continue to piss off the officer taking the paper work.

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>>30467679
move right now to a swing state, establish residence, and vote for trump. wait for him to pack the court with 2-3 new progun justices, then move back to commiefornia after the supreme court slaps the 9th circuit's shit.

>>30467656
But that's wrong. It's illegal to be in possession after Jan 1, 2017 so after that then you're breaking the law.

Expost facto means they're making something you did in the past illegal.

Will my California legal AR with a bullet button be considered an assault weapon? And if it is can I take the bullet button off?

>>30468931
Falsely reporting lost or stolen guns (AB 1695): The bill would make it a misdemeanor to falsely report a gun as stolen and also ban the person who reports it from buying another firearm for 10 years. Supporters of the bill say it’s an effort to stop people who sell guns on the black market, after buying them legally and then reporting the weapons stolen. SIGNED.

Failure to report lost or stolen guns (SB 894): Falsely reporting a gun lost or stolen would be a misdemeanor with harsh consequences (as mentioned above), but so would not reporting a weapon that has actually been stolen. This bill would fine gun owners who do not report their weapons stolen or lost within five days of when they know or “reasonably should have known.” The first fine would be $100, a second offense $1,000, and a third offense would be a misdemeanor with fines and possible jail time. The Senate has to vote one more time to concur on the bill. VETOED. In his veto message, the governor wrote that he had vetoed similiar measures in 2012 and 2013. "I continue to believe that responsible people report the loss or theft of a firearm and irresponsible people do not," Brown wrote, adding "it is not likely that this bill would change that."

The first one, which applies to stolen guns only, passed.
The second one, which applies to both stolen and lost guns, vetoed.

>>30468921
Nope, dies with you. Unless this gets repealed, whats supposed to happen is, if you family lets the state know you still had the rifle, the police are supposed to come and destroy it.

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>all of these delusional drumpets
This will happen this election or the next. It will happen everything is inevitable. As much as I like weapons, I think it only belongs in war and the movies.

>>30468991
>t. Paco McHillShill
BUILD WALL

>>30468968
what about DIY-made lowers with no serial numbers? How do those get registered?

>>30469005
I think California tried to ban them outright, at which point "ayy lmao" is the only correct response.

>>30467814
Fuck, I'm gonna have to start hoarding 9mm again before you idiots drive the price back up...

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>I'm stuck in California for at least two more years for school

>>30469005
What lowers?

>>30469018
>stuck in commiefornia until 2030
;-;

>>30468991

fuck off shill

SOMEONE FUCKING DO SOMETHING

>>30468976
Once you register it, your rifle is in the same category as the old M16's people already registered. IF you happen to somehow legally have "HI CAPACITY" mags you'd be allowed to use them with a normal mag release cause the registered rifle would be exempt from suddenly being a deadly salt weapon by using the evil magazines

>>30468911
>Unfucked AR-15s now legal.
Maybe Brown did a good thing. The liberals didn't even know what they have done.

>>30469005
It's legally as long as it doesn't violate the law. If it's legal, you can go to a gun store and have it registered, which means they background check you and hold it for 10 days. More or less, you're transfering the gun to yourself, yes, it is that stupid. Then you can salt weapon register it when the time comes. That or be smart and tell no one.

>Laws get passed.

>Laws
>Enforced in Cali

Ha. No. I'll take my cuckrifle to the range for fun, but I'm not giving up the full AR I built years ago. What are they gonna do? Bust my door down? Law enforcement is too busy chasing niggers and spics then not reporting the crime stats to worry about my shit.

I'm still leaving this shithole eventually.

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Ex-Californian in Oregon here. I'm actually surprised at the restraint. Not that it matters, the big ones were signed. Sucks.

Also
>people itt who think a pro-gun sheriff means that city and state PD won't still arrest you

Also
>>30467679
Don't listen to those people. Move where you want if you want to move. Take it from my time in Oregon, right or left, anyone you'd want to know doesn't care you're from California. The only ones who moan about it are the dumbest, most backwoods bubbas who are so uneducated that they think the minuscule trickle of California expatriates are "ruining their state," instead of what is obviously their own fellow staties shifting left with a progressive society. These people usually have drawls, or pronounce thing strangely like saying "warsh" instead of "wash."

I save telling people I'm from California until I've judged them, if even then, and the only ones I've seen wrinkle a nose are the ones I've already determined to be worthless. The dumbest of the dumb are those ones who make static over it at the range. Buddy, I'M AT THE GUN RANGE shooting with suppressors, which way do you think I vote? These are the same people who forget they're on /k/ - Weapons and say "state's full" or "go somewhere else." Not people you want to know.

>>30468063
I've been to and from Vegas many times. half the time the check points are unmanned. it's mostly to stop you from bringing in plants. so as long as you don't have a 6 ft tall fern in your backseat they'll wave you through.

>>30469068
no new unfucked AR's doesn't make it feel like a remotely good thing.

>>30467943
Come to nc. We will take you

>>30469062
Funfact: you DO not need to bring the AR nor the MAGAZINES when you are registering them.

Use this to your advantage.

>>30468339
>Half of it is Kansas
Yeah, the good half.

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>>30468963
hillary shill plz. you are really bad at your job.

refer to number 2, trump isn't racist.

Hillary on the other hand was friends for decades with KKK grand wizard Robert Byrd
https://youtu.be/ryweuBVJMEA

>>30469068
>your gun is now registered, and when the next bout of laws come to completely ban them, you get the police knock at the door and you either turn it in or go to jail

or

>if you refuse to register, you now live your life in constant threat of insta-felony, you are no longer 100% law abiding, not to mention you cant take your gun out shooting anymore because of the risk of going to jail during a simple traffic stop

Do you have to register completed 80% lowers?

>>30468858
Notice where the fuckface politicans are from.

>Los Angeles + surrounding area
>San Francisco + Bay area

Really wish we could just cut them off and let them die.

>>30468791
NRA is busy trying to win federal court battles and lock down Congress. They are playing the long game and are still a powerful ally.

Hell if somehow proguns win this election despite shillery's tricks, the now progun Congress can directly pass progun laws that straight up nullify so much of California and other liberal state's bullshit. Without fear of veto.

And the reason they would pass those laws is because the NRA would tell them to as they ALREADY have hundreds of lawsuits against gun control nationwide, and there's no easier way of winning lawsuits besides just passing the laws you need to win.

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Anyone who wants to support us, please send Gov. Jerry Brown a message. Thanks.

https://faxzero.com/
(916) 558-3160

>>30467620
>califags wont do shit
You guys are the biggest cucks.

>>30467791
Man, we have states like California and New York for the same reason we have boards like /r9k/ and /mlp/. We need someplace to dump our retards.

Think of it like a big hole in the ground that all the sewage water runs down into. If you demand we elevate the ground in that hole to the same level the rest of us are at, the sewage water will flow back out and spread everywhere.

We need containment areas. California is a good place to let these idiots circlejerk over their failed philosophies. Everyone who recognizes it as shit is free to leave.

>>30468791
NRA lifted many fingers. It's just that California is a containment state for shrieking hippies that you get outvoted no matter how much the NRA fights.

>>30467723
Southern VA fag here.

If you help fight against NoVA, you're fine by me.

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>>30469117
I think I need to grab some lowers just to stack up on "legal" mags

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>>30468629
Oh fuck that.

Dear Lord. I just got transferred up to salt lake city from Victorville. I start on the 18th of July. I just dodged a fucking bullet

>laws get passed
>my europoor senators will see Cali reports with their questionable methodology
>wow that looks great, let's pass some of those laws here :DDD
>Oh and more social progress :DDD

>>30467656
Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy's retroactive tax increase would like to speak to you. Something about a precedent that no one paid attention to?

>>30469105
I visited portland a few times. No one cared I was from commiefornia. Although they didn't know I was from commiefornia because some how I acted like someone from Oregon. It was mostly because I was staying with friends so I picked up their habits of not using umbrellas and never bitching about how cold and rainy it is(because I had accepted the state for what it is). People were shocked when I showed them my California ID. Still, I think Portland is too liberal for me so it is off to Seattle for me. Maybe my Republican voting pattern might help Washington state fight off gun control for a few years.


*sigh*

>arizona is going blue in 20 years for sure
>oregon is already starting to get fucked with gun control
>washington is where california was in 2000 in terms of gun control
>Alaska is going to be the only pacific state where funs are allowed.

>>30469126
>>30469068
>>30469068
not to mention, now that your 'unfucked legal AR' is classified as a registered assault weapon under california law, it is subject to strict usage and travel laws. you cant just legally stop off somewhere with your RAW in the trunk of your car. has to go immediately to and from shooting. must be in a locked container. cant be lended to someone else. must have documentation at all times for it.

oh yeah, and >10 round mags are now completely illegal, regardless of when you had them. so your 'unfucked with ar' is restricted to using little cuck 10 rounders

trust me, you lost something here, not gained it.

>gov brown goes on vacation to europe after this
>newsome gets some work experience
>brown reports to soros

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>30469157
That being said, I still feel sick to my stomach

>>30469123
We don't care, Trump went against the establishment which will result in his loss. There is no going against the establishment. Don't believe me look toward the UK in the next few months, it will come crawling back to us.

>>30467869
Which is why they ignore them.

>>30469169
>>30469068
>>30469126
and dont forget, as a registered assault weapon in california, it is non transferrable. so you cant sell it to someone in california. you cant will it to your children, or gift it to some family member. it is locked to you alone in california, and if you ever need money/want to sell it, you have to sell it to someone out of state

>>30469163
>portland is too liberal for me
>moving to seattle

>>30468499
Why wouldn't we want more /k/omrades here in AZ? I don't give a shit if you are from Cali as long as you aren't a libshit

>>30469163
>all you have to do to reverse those demographic slides is vote Trump
>but somehow he said mean things and that makes it not OK

>>30467869
Those guns were obtained in UTAH iirc, which means we need to extend California laws nationwide.

>>30467869
>he thinks antis care about facts

>>30469195
fucking mingle with the starbucks neo-cons there, who like their coffee in a venti cup instead of the weird liberal edible donut cupcake coffeecups portland hipster restaurants use

>>30469163
Theh won't go blue if people actually fucking fight it like they are beginning to after all this cali bullshit.

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>tfw Alaska

The lower 48 is a sinking ship

>>30468829
Sorry if I touched a nerve. I don't think trans people are evil. But the ideal of the life choice has been perverted by the leftists into being a deviancy that is "accepted" and yet sniggered at.

I guess that what I hate about CA as a whole. It's gleeful, smug hypocrisy in all things.

They know damn well that being gay or trans is something that is a personal choice and the government needs to step the hell out instead of forcing "acceptance". They know the more guns that their citizenry owns the better chance those citizens have at surviving the rampant crime and unrest they've created. The politicians here know it and they choose acts of evil. They have forgotten that they serve instead of rule. And I have no desire to live in their world. I want to get my family out before it burns around them.
>mark my words the officials of California will pull a Nero as the state destroys itself.

Why would Brown veto AB 1176? It's the only bill that actually punishes criminals.

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awaiting the day another mass shooting happens in cali :^)

>>30469195
I found Seattle slightly more moderate than Portland. But is like comparing Stalin to Leann.

I felt like I smoked a bowl of weed and was watching Portlandia when I was in Portland. Legitimate feminist book stores, women straight out of Tumblr complete with purple dyed arm pit hair, and hipsters everywhere.

Seattle is just slightly better imo. Eastern King county is pretty nice. I remember walking in south bend or snoqualmie and feeling like I was a small mid western town except there being nice mountains. Even a cool little gun store next to a good bakery. Open carry is cool in seattle too along with less tumblr people.

>>30469202
>be part spic
>self hating because I support trump
>faggots are okay with Hillary being funded by countries who behead gay people

>>30469247
We all know that gun laws aren't made to actually prevent crime.

>>30469247
worded to vaguely i believe.

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>>30469190
sure thing bub

>>30469195
Seattle ruins Washington politics less than Portland ruins Oregon politics, and by moving to some place outside of King County that gets reinforced. My little hick town has multiple gun shops and weed stores alike.

>>30469139
And what would you do?

>>30469230
>Sorry if I touched a nerve. I don't think trans people are evil. But the ideal of the life choice has been perverted by the leftists into being a deviancy that is "accepted" and yet sniggered at.

I didn't have a fucking choice in the matter. I rather have been born a dude but fuck I get a fucked up defective tranny brain.

>I guess that what I hate about CA as a whole. It's gleeful, smug hypocrisy in all things.

I agree which is why when I go out of state I don't tel a soul anything remotely related to California.

>They know damn well that being gay or trans is something that is a personal choice and the government needs to step the hell out instead of forcing "acceptance"

Being trans is not a choice but I guess one could argue that it is a choice to go through with it. As for acceptance, I don't want to force it down people's throats. If you don't want to bake a cake for me well fuck off I will find someone else to take my money. I don't think the government should get involved

I do love guns though. I was going to go to the /k/ california meet up but I had to do shit that weekend that came up unexpected. Oh well, it looks like that something I had to do will be good for moving out of this hell hole.

I can get my gun rights back soonish. shame I have to leave the most beautiful state in the union to do it.

nothing wrong with being tranny anon. if everyone minded their own fucking business and worried about their own lives instead of what other people do, this world would be a lot nicer

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>>30469190
>UK
>Crawling back
Nigger please. Pic related is he coming trade deals

>>30469436
>>30469375
sorry just realized i used word tranny, i only recently discovered it was offensive to a lot of trans people so im trying to get it out of my vocabulary but habits die hard...same way i always kick myself afterwards for calling something 'gay' when im mad