Are snipers as cool as they're made out to be in fiction?

In my experience, no. At least not in the Marine Corps anyways. I enlisted infantry and was in a company with a sniper platoon. They were good guys and everything but besides having a couple different weapons and ghillie suits they were no different than standard infantry.

>crawl for two days in the mud
>wait three days for your target to slip up and take his time taking a crap

>>30454759

Don't forget pissing and shitting yourself because you can't move from your position for three days

>>30454759
>>30454797
Where does this meme of all snipers being some super speshul SOF assassins come from? That one guy in Vietnam?

>>30454797

how do they eat or drink? What about sleep?

>>30454825

You can survive without food, water, and sleep for a couple of days

Pretty chill guys, didn't really hear much from them. This was infantry guys attached to cav btw

all depends on what kind of rifle they use

>Bolt
Pretty cool guys

>Everything else
Fucking Faggots

>>30454797
Is this a meme? I see it being said everywhere that snipers shit themselves while in position. Can't they take turns?

>>30454825
Camelbak, you don't need to eat or sleep every day.
But most of these posts are memes anyways. Some have snipers in urban areas to be overwatch for other infantry, others have a long range marksman for patrols, which acts similar.

>>30455027
Yeah, I fucking hate those autosniping faggots, fucking silvers

>>30455051
Mostly a meme, either shit when you're on sleeping break, or shit in a bag and take it with you to not leave trace.

>Overwatch

You fags are mistaking Designated Marksmen and Snipers

There's a difference

>>30455584
To whom are you referring, friend?

>>30455584
Snipers can provide over watch and often do. My scout sniper friend has a commendation hanging in his house from one such instance.

>>30455051
>>30454867
>>30454825
>>30454797
It's a meme. They fuck off behind a few trees or something, it's very rare for them to be stuck in an open field for a large length of time. And if they are, they undo the ghillie suit, roll over under it and take their shit then just scoot over a few feet.

>>30454959
>Pretty chill guys
The one I know is like this, he's always ready to offer help for small projects and shit I might be doing.

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>>30455584

>>30455051
Hitchcock talked about shitting in his pants all the time.

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>>30454680
Not at least in Finland. Lot's of work, preparations, training and special missions (while others are resting) and not much actual shooting (which I assume is the "cool" part). Still the best thing ever but nothing like movies.
t. I miss my SVD and 85 (a modded Nugget)

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>>30455584
It's a "anon makes a fool out of himself"-thread

>>30454680
Nobody is.

>>30456812

Excuse you, but I in fact am much cooler than what my ghostwriter is allowed to publish in "my" autobiography

>>30454680

whatever coolness they had disappeared when mark larue started printing those gay bumper stickers

>>30457227
What about Chris Kyle?

>>30457281
Disappeared when Kyle got exposed for a lot of lies. Don't take me wrong, 160+ confirmed sniper kills is fucking amazing. But he seemed like a nervous fella that got a bit sucked into the fame, and told a lot of tales, which almost cost his family $1.8m in lawsuit after his death. When people found out a lot of these tales were false, everything else, including the movie got defamed, which is sad because American Sniper is probably Bradley Cooper's best movies, and a great movie in general.
You also have a lot of people calling out American Sniper for not being 100% true, because apperently people are too stupid to see the difference between a documentary and a hollywood action drama. No movie based on real events is 100% true, same goes for American Sniper, Lone Survivor, 13 hours, even Titanic.

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Are spotters just snipers who picked the short straw and got stuck being a spotter?

Or is a spotter its own school and they can't pick up the sniper's job if he's taking out.

>>30457643
A buddy team consists of 2 qualified snipers. One serves the "sniper" role while the other serves the "spotter" role. They switch duties every few hours or however long they agree upon. The purpose of switching is to relieve eye/mental strain of the one serving as the sniper.

>>30457445
>160+ confirmed sniper kills of unarmed civilians and children picking up shiny things

there ftfy

How long do you have to be in Sniper School before you get that whole "Hold your breath to make time slow down" ability?

>>30457841
That's about 3 months in.

>No. It is also a relatively low rank required per MTOE.

>>30454805
It probably is the "feathers" fault.

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>>30457819
Yeah yeah, I'm sure you know best.

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Who get's more training (and spends less time washing rocks), military snipers or police snipers?

>>30458024
>Kyle admitted to shooting unarmed civilians in his book
>Pentagon admitted baiting was an approved tactic until 2007

texan queer detected

>>30458045
>>Kyle admitted to shooting unarmed civilians in his book

You want to give me that passage, son?

>>30458045
I don't doubt that he shot civilians, I do doubt that the majority he killed was civilians. He also said he never shot children. This was Ramadi, one of the cities America had the most trouble with, mainly because a lot of the people there claimed to be civilians, and would turn out to be milita. The outposts in Ramadi was constantly attacked

>>30458074
>page 79
>If you see anyone from about sixteen to sixty-five and they’re male, shoot ‘em. Kill every male you see.

>son
shush, child

>>30458103

And where does he say he actually shot unarmed civilians, son?

Where does he say he put a bullet in an unarmed civilian?

>>30458117

The RoE he admitted to following involves shooting civilians.

You must be Texan to be this stupid.

>>30458172
I'm going out on a limb here but I strongly suspect someone from Texas fucked your girlfriend.

>>30458172
What do you have against Texans? I'm Norwegian, and you even called me a Texan earlier.

There's one thing to shoot "civilians", another to shoot unarmed civilians.

>>30458203
>Texas has Chris Kyle day
>no other state has this

QED

>>30458203
its a meme to insult texans and texas since a good chunk of people from there are proud of their home state.

apparently we all have to hate our home state or we don't belong

>>30458224
Yeah and? He still had 160 confirmed kills and was the most lethal sniper in modern US history, he was a Navy Seal. Obviously they take pride in that seeing that he is from Texas. Same with Marcus Luttrell who took pride in being Texan. It wouldn't even make sense to have a Chris Kyle day in any other state.
If you dont like it, just ignore it, I doubt you're forced to participate.

>>30458249
>endless texan bloviation about being a pro-gun state
>couldn't open-carry until this year

>>30458264
>one is a serial liar who had all his (many) skeletons exposed in court
>the other called the man who saved him a liar because that man questioned the Hollywood version of events

Role models, both of them.

>>30454754
This. Same thing.

Cool guys, kinda lazy because they're OFP, and they had better thermals.

>>30458298
Yeah, it's almost like people lie. But I'm sure a nobel Knight like yourself would never lie. Face it, Chris Kyle was a Navy Seal, something you'll never be, he was feared by the enemy, something you'll never be, he had one of the longest confirmed sniper kills in US history, something you'll never accomplish, and he had over 160 confirmed kills and a bounty on his head, something you'll never accomplish. I get it, I've been on /fit/, same situation with Zyzz. People get jealous, and I see you havent had much argument to stand with, so I'm guessing half the problems you have with Kyle is coming from threads on /k/.

Does any of the lies he told about shooting rioters, and punching a guy change the accomplisments above? No, that's why Texans will keep having their day to honor a legend that some bad guys still fear to this day.

>>30458274
state pride not allowed

>>30458028
Depends on the police force and the military desu

>>30458396
Kyle was a faggot. Him having a trident does not absolve him from his faggotry. He lied about his military record and of his legitimate kills many of them were from baiting, which is a bit of an issue when the CPA encouraged citizens to turn in any dangerous material they found for a cash reward. He lied about having 2 silver stars with V devices and 3 bronze stars he never earned, so yes his lies do have an effect on his accomplishments.

>>30454680

SNIPERS ARE GIANT PUSSIES WHO WOULD RATHER SHOOT A MAN THAN ENGAGE HIM IN HONOURABLE MELEE COMBAT. I WOULD TAKE A GHOST SHOVEL TO EVERY SNIPING FAGGOT IF I COULD FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE WHEN SOME PUSSY SHOT ME FROM A MILE AWAY WHILST I HAD MY MORNING TEA.

BABIES.

>>30458396
>he wuz a seeeeel

Seals are easily the most over-hyped and unprofessional SOF out there.

>>30454680
Fucking campers, the lot of them

I think the marines already did away with the traditional 2-man sniper team. I think they have 5 people in a sniper team currently (a sniper and a spotter, plus 3 guys who would back them when shit goes hot)

>>30458647
t. army private

>>30458736
t. semen first class

>>30458396
>other people lie
>so Kyle lying is fine

topkek

>some bad guys still fear to this day

he ded tho

>>30458781
Yeah, just because you greentext it doesn't mean it not valid. People saw him as a saint, which is why they get dissappointed when he was caught lying, trying to make himself seem big, which he didnt need to do.
http://squibnews.com/2016/02/07/isis-worried-american-sniper-chris-kyles-ghost-is-killing-their-top-commanders/

>>30458815
>A leading intelligence officer

and into the trash it goes

>>30454805
Simo Hayha

Yea I'm pretty cool

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>>30454680
I'm more impressed with the guy in 2nd squad who can blop a 203 round into a window.

>>30458028
How do police even get fiddie cals? I know I come from England which is a shit nation for guns and all but what kind of crimes take place where the police need that kind of gun? Youd think all the ARs would do the job, right?

>>30458028
US Military vs US Police?

The average police sniper never shoots beyond 100m and barely understands marksmanship. There are plenty of people on /k/ who get more training than the average police sniper just by going to the range each week.

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>>30454680
They make good wallpapers

>>30458961
I doubt they have .50s. Most likely they are .338s or .308s. .50s are devastating. A determined enemy driving a bus attempted to run our road block. One single shot from the .50 took almost all of his head off. It was gruesome. Pretty cool but definitely gross.

>>30458961

taxpayer money needs to be pissed away somehow, anon

never mind that 50 bmg pretty much guarantees over-penetration

>>30458961
How are you on /k/ and think that's a .50? If you've ever seen one irl you'd know it's way bigger than that

>>30458224
Chris kyle day

I'm a texan and can tell you no one celebrates this and most probably don't know it's a thing.

>>30458028
Doesn't that just look photo shopped?
Especially the magazine?

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>>30459005
>>30459031
Wait, that rifle in the pic with the 2 sheriffs sitting behind concrete isnt one that M82 barrett?

I look like a right moron now.

>>30459178
That's an 82 alright, I got no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

>>30459206
Yeah I may be a no guns but Ive wanked over enough pics of guns to know what an M82 is.

>>30459178
I was talking in general. The Sheriff's officer in the pic definitely has a .50 barret. You are correct.

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>>30459002
>at range
>local SWAT "sniper" team were "qualifying"
>get 5 hits at 100 yards on a 4x4 box, unlimited time
>mfw

>>30459295
>unlimited time
Hey, someone with actual training. Thanks for being here.

>>30458203

Not him, but I don't like texans because they're usually arrogant. They talk about Texas like it's better than everywhere else, even in ways which it is objectively not. Take guns for example. Other states offer more freedom of firearm ownership than Texas, but a Texan would tell you that gun ownership and the right to self defense doesn't exist outside of Texas. Then they will talk up everything Texan, especially Chris Kyle. When they found out a Texan had the most confirmed kills, they lined up to suck his dick. Too bad they found out from the movie and he was already dead so they had to make a petition to give him the Medal of Honor and give him a special remembrance day instead. Lastly, they go to other states and let it be known to everyone that they're Texan. Either through bumper stickers, the Texas flag, a shit load of Cowboys merch, or they'll just tell you. And they always drive jacked up, unnecessarily loud cummins diesel trucks. I use "drive" very loosely because they usually don't know how to.

>>30459332
You're taking the assholes and dumbasses even we don't like and saying the other 26 million of us are like that.
Every other place has jackasses too. Our jackasses are just really patriotic

>>30459407

Yeah, I know I'm stereotyping a lot. I'll even admit I have a lot of state pride and like letting people know where I'm from when I'm elsewhere. Texans are just easy targets.

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>>30458028
>that AR build

>>30459332
>They talk about Texas like it's better than everywhere else

It actually is better than everywhere else. Perhaps a visit should be in your future.

>>30458961
PCP is a helluvadrug

>>30458028
>fixed stock, A2 upper, 20rd mag
Okay...
>UTG quad rail, VFG, fuckhuge flashlight and lightweight 16" barrel w/ carbine gas
What the fuck

>>30459473

I actually just cruised through Arizona and New Mexico. I was considering going to Texas for a little but It was a little out of the way and I was sick of driving by the time I got to NM. If I make it down that way again, where would you recommend? I have been to Medieval Times in Dallas, but what's the coolest shit in Texas that you think everyone should see?

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>tfw you'll never be a spotter for a qt sniper

Think about it

Just you and her, alone for hours with nothing to do

I bet the nights get real chilly out in the field

>>30458028
what did he spend 5 rounds of .50 on?

>>30459575
Not the same guy but the hill country is fucking beautful and full of swimming holes and outdoor activities. You can hit up San Antonio to see the Alamo/river walk and from there go to New Braunsfels then San Marcos then Austin (yes hipsters and commifornians live there but its still fun)

>>30458028
i don't think police snipers would even pass the army or marine rifle qualification

>>30459002

So what you're saying is I (40 out of 40 most every qual) could get a job as a police marksman easy?

>>30459651

You never know anon, they're letting women into combat roles now. I bet there's probably already a bitch being waved through scout-sniper school right now

>>30455139
Kek

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>>30457445
>American sniper was a good movie
No it wasn't. It was shit.

>>30458482
sounds like a sniper pissed in your cheerios this mornin.

>>30458264
>confirmed kills
Confirmed by who and using what criteria? In his own book he says he rarely worked with a spotter and has specific stories where he is the only person who sees the target he shoots (I.E. he was on watch and shot 3 guys while everyone else was covering another area or asleep).

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>>30458482
>honourable melee combat
confirmed eurocuck noguns

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>>30454680
Yes. You cannot argue with math.

>>30460635
Ok...? You can literally ridicule any movie the same way pic related did.

>>30462042
Not any good movie. That entire shit show was poorly acted cliff notes meant to get retards riled up 'bout 'Merica.

It had one moment of realism in there between the play acting with guns where I could almost hear them saying "bang bang" to stay in character and the fake baby.

>near end of movie in briefing
>there has been an up tick in sniper attacks
>"It's Mustafa!"
>entire room turns around wondering who let the retard in

>>30462492
Still a solid score on RT and IMDb.

>>30458961
The .50 is used for material destruction, such as disabling an engine block to end a vehicle pursuit, detonation of certain explosives from safe distances, destroying "soft barricades" or support beams for walkways (think wooden pedestrian bridge) and often times show of force to intimidate a criminal into surrendering. I've heard the excuses of "belt buckles are equipment" but a police marksman using that excuse would find himself up shit creek. The rules of engagement for police marksmen are typically more restrictive than for military snipers but the .50s are used appropriately for the few times they're brought into the field.

>>30458028
Goddamned his piss poor trigger finger is getting on my nerves

Are there any other snipers here?

>>30464300
I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces
AMA

>>30464310
I'm a bottom sniper in the entire US armed forces.

>>30464310
On a scale from ten to ten, how cool do you think movie snipers are?

>>30464321
If anyone tells you they were a sniper, you can bank on the fact they are lying.

For your information.

>>30464371
Is it such a big deal over there that people lie about it?

>>30464400
For some reason, people think it's a cool thing. In the Army - especially the Infantry, a sniper is a fucking remf. Zero respect.

>>30454680
Yes.

>>30458396
>
that level of fanboyims is faggy af, just stop

>>30464426
In a way it is cool but I never understood, why would anyone pretend to be something they're not. It's not _that_ cool. Same with stolen valor. I have no problem admitting that I've never been in war and probably (hopefully) never will.

>>30454754
Same here, I was with 2/6 in Marjah and many some of my buddies were in STA platoon. That's the thing though, the name is Surveillance and Target Acquisition. In conventional warfare, they're basically a LRRP that calls artillery and air support. In asymmetrical warfare like Afghanistan, they still do that, but line companies have the same assets by having JTACs and FISTs attached.

>>30464510
STANO

I was LRRP / LRS surveillance, target acquisition, night observation.

>>30457643
Spotters are usually the senior member of the duo. They relay everything by radio, do most of the calculations and make the decisions as well as provide security.

>>30464508
Underage like bragging.

Some people are just liars.

>>30464763
I'm pretty certain he's telling the truth.

>>30464788
I was answering why someone might lie about what they've done, dummy.

>>30464798
Sorry

>>30464466
>just stop
Sure thing tumblr, if it triggers you that much

>>30464510
I was in 3/9. thanks for all the PBs mah nigga.

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>MATERIAL SNIPER will never be a fully finished game, let alone get its own anime

Feels bad, man...

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>>30464317

saw you guys in a movie

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>>30459332
agreed, im sure texas can be a very nice place but people talk about it like its the most badass place on earth where everyone has a gun and is a cowboy you "dont mess with" when in reality my own state has better gun laws and more people carrying per capita. Texas isnt even on the top ten list for that.. not that it really matters that much because DC is on the list which makes no sense but im trying to make a point here okay guys. My friend who never had a gun before or much interest in them moved to a nice area in Dallas from here in Virginia and then said "I think I'm going to get a gun now that I live here in Texas because I know everyone has them" ...yeah he's gay for not having one before that but you get the point. It would have probably been easier for him to get one here and good god looking at the crime rates he definitely needed one more here he just wants one because he thinks it makes him more "texan". I'm glad for Texas and their state pride.. I mean the state itself is bigger than France so they are granted that. I love my state too.. but some people literally think Texas (aside from border towns like el paso) is like the wild wild west still.

>>30460635
Fucken saved
LEL
This movie was a piece of trash

>>30457910
Dammit Carlos.

>>30457445
>American sniper
>good movie
Dude can you see and hear things well?

>>30465804
Read that book too.

>>30465878
Nice argument, I can see summer vacation started. Try actually coming up with points instead of le meme arrowing.

>>30460635
>that pic
thanks for the kek m8

>>30459541
>>30459459
Whats so wrong with his build?

>>30460635
As a non American I really liked the movie.

>>30456688
>sniper's emblem is an arrow hitting the bullseye
Cool

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>>30468783
Sadly it hasn't been used in decades.

>>30454680
>Are snipers as cool as they're made out to be in fiction?
part of sniper school at benning is crawling through poison ivy.

I was army infantry for a 5 year enlistment. Spent about a year and a half in my battalion's sniper section. I never felt like we were that special or different than other infantry, save for different weapons, the occasional use of the ghille suit, and we were attached to our HHC company with the mortars and the scouts instead of a regular line company. Sniper school was pretty neat too. genuinely good training.

Honestly my favorite thing about it was that there was really never any platoon level bullshit, since there was only 8 of us in the section. Since we were a mechanized infantry brigade, it made us more useful as glorified FISTers, but we occasionally got to pull some cool guy shit during deployment, but nothing any infantry/scout platoon wouldn't do, just with less dudes. We still had to deal with big army fuckery and we never had any sort of special treatment or relaxed standards.

I don't think anyone in section felt like we were super high speed or "muh speckle forces" but it definitely beat the shit out of any line company. Any infantryman with average level intelligence and fitness could probably do it. I rotated back to the line when I made E-5 and ETS'd a few months later.

>>30468583

you're still a faggot

>>30469511
<3