Find. A. Flaw.

>>30424755
I dont serve on one, nor will i ever.

also it doesnt have tie interceptors or hunters or A-wings.

More realistic to the setting, the whole spine opening to a hangar is questionable, the drop-TIE racks on a ISD is superior for sortie rate purposes.

>>30424755

What do you guys suppose gun ownership is like in the star wars universe.

>>30424755
It does not actually exist.

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>>30424755

>>30424831
afaik "firearm" ownership was largely unregulated, "slug throwers" were seen as crude and primitive weapons.

>>30424755
>logistics

>crewmate logistics

guaranteed to have a lot of dicking around

>>30424831
Its basically like america. Few regulations except on NYC-world.

in star wars there are places like Felucia and tattooine and kashyyk where just about everything has claws, venom, and rarely fucking force powers, so heavy firepower is a legitimate need.

"Why do you NEED an assault blaster?"-coruscant liberal

"because rancors keep eating my fucking cattle and pirates keep stealing my droids and god damn sand people keep raiding my water supply"- anyone from the outer rim

>dead silence

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windows are structural weak points.

>>30424755
Why is the bridge completely exposed? Why not have it in the center of the ship where its protected?

>>30424755
>not republic

That was easy

>>30424755
It doesn't have a kickass blood red stripe down it

>>30425097
What do we look like, Covenant?

>>30424755
>hangar door gets stuck
>can't deploy fighters

>>30424755
>Massive fucking windows
>Turbolaser arcs if fire blocked by bridge from firing on other side and the ship from firing below
>Massive blind spot behind
>Unnecessarily shape optimized (poorly) for atmospheric flight that won't happen
>Crappy surface area to volume ratio means they're either too heavy (slow) or too lightly armored for their size

Yeah, no flaws

>>30424755
>It's simultaneously a battleship, aircraft carrier and assault ship

>>30426543
I can barely read shit on that image

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>>30424755
Exposed bridge is a major flaw, just focus fire and you've disabled the ship.

>not building your bridge deep inside the ship Battlestar style for maximum protection

>>30424755
It's from the prequels.

>>30424755

twin bridge

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Find. A. Flaw.

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Not enough missiles

>>30424755
I always wondered how they got rid of the red stripes so quickly.
Because even with a thousand wookie slaves scraping off the paint, that would take some time.

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>>30424755
They're no gravity in space. You need something like pic related to simulate gravity.

>>30427932
Not a Macross, so it is cannon fodder.

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>>30428028
Post Empire there was a Star Destroyer Captain that wanted to paint his Star Destroyer red. The only pain he could find in sufficient quantity though was Star Destroyer white. He later got the New Republic to do it for him.

>>30427644

Why is that assault rifle from Halo turned into a space shit?

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Find. A. Flaw.

>>30428089
literally had the same exact first impression

>>30424875
Some of the EU stuff IIRC stated that some slug throwers were on the shit list because they were inhumane. Others were as you described.

>>30424831
Surplus Death Stars and Eclipse destroyers everywhere.

Given how many times such kinda superweapons pop out in every shit Star Wars 'EU' book or just straight up fanfiction.

>>30425097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-u068B6RU
How I feel about exposed bridges in SciFi.

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>>30428150
Well at least they didn't think flamethrowers were inhumane.

>>30427932
Why in the fuck would you put an exposed flight deck on a starship?

>>30428054
Knew the Errant Venture got painted red, but how did he con the Pubs into doing it?

>>30428029
>star wars
>gravity plating
BTFO

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>>30428119
Anyone else think that binder clips for office papers looks like these when folded down?

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>>30428182
Decent.

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>>30428193
Yes.

>>30428193
HOLY FUCK YES

I would play around with these and imagine they're gunships.

>>30428188
I believe he had some of it armament stripped and given the the NR.

>>30428230
That was part of the deal of him getting it.

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>>30428230
What >>30428230 said. Terrik got Corran Horn to do some rough guesses of what a civilian craft that size could carry for armament, Talon Karrde agreed with it and offered to buy the surplus which Karrde then sold to the Pubs. The end of Bacta War is full of keks.

>>30424860
>alternate universe where none of the people in our universe have ever been to
>Freudian nightmare
I audibly cringed

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>>30428250

>>30428185
Thats what the Guantanamo class is for.

>>30424755
Too flat,

Later Imperial star destroyers were way better at taking advantage of that triangular shape for fields of fire, this sort of shits on those possible advantages.

>>30428119
They're out of missiles.

>>30424898
SANDPEOPLE DINDU NUFFIN

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>>30428312
too sexy 2bh

>>30428185
because Macross spaceships can land in water.

>>30428193
All the time

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FIND

A

FLAW

>>30428475
You need 3 human ships, any class, to take down a single Covie CSS Assault Carrier. At least, I think that was in one of the books.

>>30428028
Lasers.

No seriously, you can buy laser paint / rust strippers right now as civilians. THEY ARE AWESOME!

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Find. A. Flaw.

>>30428598
The model kit sucks.

>>30428598
The price tag

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Find. A. Flaw.

>>30424755
>Carrier and a warship at the same time

It's perfect.

>>30428629
Carriers are already warships

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>>30427644
Fuck yeah

>>30424755
Cannot be concealed carried

>>30424755
The main battery is consisted of starboard/port hull guns.The elevation and depression of the guns are absolutely terrible for the actual size of the cannons, which are ground forces tier. You would have to aline the ship to a completely different axis to be able to flank the top and underside of enemy capital ships.

>>30424755
command deck is exposed to incoming fire all in the name of "DAT view" even with force shields, CIC should be located in the bowels of the ship, heavily armored and well situated from harm.

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>>30427644
This Star Wars and Star Trek have ass ship designs and CIC placement in comparison to BSG.

>>30428680
not to mention suicidal a wing pilots

>>30428876

all in all battlestars are probably some of the most well thought out sci-fi starships I know

>>30428876
First episode
>>30428643
episode 5

They were hanging by a thread the whole series

>>30424755
large flat paddle surface so it can get rekt super easy from distance. unless the top and bottom surfaces are basically a giant armor sandwich, which would be top tier design

>>30424755
>it doesn't exist

>>30427940
One day I will sit my ass down and watch this

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>>30424755
If your ship can't travel through hell itself than that is a flaw.

>>30424755
The new submarines look like some of these, just saying

>>30424755
Bridge/CIC is at the very top, exposed, likely to be lost in a collision.

Doesn't have enough shields to endure Death Star strike.

>>30429875
Nothing has enough shields to survive a shot from a Death Star.

>>30429158
I had no idea 40k was this intense.

>>30428214
was anybody terrified of the gonk droid when they were a kid?

>>30428119
They give me strange space 'nam flashbacks and boners

>onna geonosis
>be side gunner, writing my name on confederacy spheres with muh lazer
>it aint me, it aint me
>i aint no chancellor's son.gif

>>30426628
>Turbolaser arcs if fire blocked by bridge from firing on other side and the ship from firing below

>Implying the design isn't optimized for always pointing towards the enemy to give all guns clear shots

>>30429022
Thats basically how it is, an armor sandwich

>>30428028
Droids. Lots of Astromechs on a ship that size.

>>30429886
Then everything is flawed.

>>30428182
The Geos don't deserve better.

>>30429917
It started as an intentional self parody of 80's grim and edgy future and only got crazier once it started taking itself seriously. The cap exaggerates a little, but not by that much.

>>30429158
40k fags are the worst

>>30429158

> missing target by several light years
> have to go do another jump
> 80% casualties
> SMASHING SUCCESS!

trying too hard.

>>30428876
In Star Trek at least it's because they aren't primarily warships, they're exploratory vessels with warship capability. On the Defiant, it may still be the top deck but it isn't a big bubble on top like on most ships. Romulan ships have interior command centers. Klingon ships are a bridge, guns, and drives.

>>30424831
Actually the guide books to lore of star wars vehicles and weapons mentions that civilian ownership of blasters is strictly prohibited and even heavily regulated near the frontier worlds.

For example the E-11 blaster rifle/carbine that storm troopers used eas one of the most advanced, powerful, lightweight and compact blaster weapons ever made and were just over all superior to anything the rebels had. E-11 Blasters were never for commercial sale and exclusively produced for the Empire could only be accuired from stealing from Imperial Armory's bribing and smuggling cargo containers of them from corroupt Imperial officials or battlefield pick ups.

DH-17's were also an exclusive military blaster pistol/carbine , but were available to planetary defense forces, police and guard militia's in abundance and frontier mining companys, cargo haulers, security guard companys, and some private citizens could buy them with permits, same with the DL-44 which was more of a magnum revolver for explorers on harsh planets with hostile flora and fauna.

By the time of a New Hope, Blaster ownership is actually outright banned for civilians and the private sector harshly regulated in efforts to stop the rebellion from getting weapons easily.

Think of it as if we lived in a ban country like france where full auto MK-18's are banned for Civilian use and are only for french troops (E-11)

However, in light of terrorism and expanding colonies in africa, short barreled Ruger Mini-14's are used by police, private security, settlers and merchant marines. (DH-17)

>>30430031
>40k fags are the best.
The rest of the star wars and trekkie fans take their shit waaaaaay too seriously. At least its obvious to its fans that 40k is a lot of self parody.

And it also fills the nitch of the big bad ass human empire with heavily armored supersoldiers, being the good guys. Because I don't know a big scifi universe that shows genocide of alien spies to be a good thing. Especially now.

>>30427644
Is that the Halo assault rifle?

>>30426628
>atmospheric flight
Those things took off and landed all the time. Canonically.

>>30428214
A walking power generator...treads would have made sense, but alright.

>>30424755
it's white

>>30428215
Did any of tou guys use TV remotes and your dad's camcorder as starwsrs scsle spaceships with your micro machines?

We had blue carpet in the living room, so the TV remotes were aircraft carriers.

>>30425097
The bridge isn't necessarily the CIC, and you need a place to see from.

>>30428215
>>30430104
One time O took a bunch of mother boards and video cards out of their protective bags and had my lego's fight over them...Dad was not pleased losing hundreds of dollars in computer hardware back in the early 90's.

>>30430112
yeah, because it's really easy to see in the pitch darkness of space.
Sensors and radar would give you better direction, like a submarine.

>>30430066
>genocide of alien spies to be a good thing
In the recent Vader comics Geonosis was virtually uninhabited from sustained Imperial bombing. It's implied dirty bombs were used which sterilized the population. A year after Yavin there was only one insane queen left grafted to an automated battle droid replicator with her nest of "babies" standing guard.

Vader just detached the queen and took the machine off world.

Cold as ice.

>>30430218
Fuck the Geos and their fucking zombie worms.

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>>30424755
The Resurgent class ain't that bad actually.
They made it a lore point to rectify problems from previous ISDs. Especially in regards to the bridge height and having an internal secondary one.

>>30430066
>The rest of the star wars and trekkie fans take their shit waaaaaay too seriously
Don't compare 40k to either of those things
They are nothing alike, nothing.

40k fans are to sci fi fans what Toolfags are to music fans

>>30430281
One rule of thumb on how to figure out a sci-fi universe is how it handles first contact.

>survive nuclear war
>cobble together warp drive
>(OPTIONAL) get help from time travelers
>make successful test run
>meet human like aliens obsessed with logic and cooperation
>get crunk and dance to oldies rock

>be explorer for fledgling human empire
>find violent, barbarian species
>try to be open-minded
>walk up to local to say hi
>stop and realize it doesn't like me
>draw gun and fire
>alien does the same
>die

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>>30430272

Looks pretty neat honestly. A lot like some more modern super yacht designs.

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>>30424755
Here.

>>30424755

>In left side bridge
>did ensign Smith calibrate the tractor beams?
>he's stationed on the right bridge
>be back in 20 minutes

>>30430057

10/10
>lore accurate
>timely analogies
>decent firearm comparison

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>>30424755
>He engages in Visual range.

Loven
Erry
Laff.

>>30430052
That's more like how their orbital fire support works.

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>>30430066
>nitch

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>>30430057
Good post is good. Thumbs up.
>Have a pupper.

>>30430057

Good post

However, it's still not impossible to own a weapon. Luke Skywalker (or maybe just Owen Lars) owned that long rifle he took with him when he was looking for R2-D2 (though they might have it since they're frontier farmers).
Also blaster ownership might depend on the time era. For example, in the Knights of the Old Republic games there are plenty of legal arms merchants, such as the one on Taris (which is under Sith occupation at the time mind you), and Adum Larp on Dantooine. Also Czerka legally sells blasters to civilians.

>>30424755
Is being too sexy a flaw?

>>30431837
Open arms ownership is likely dependent entirely on location. Nobody, even garrisoned troopers, seems to give a shit about everyone walking around armed on Tatooine. Even with restricted weapons like the DL-44, which was restricted because it can actually get through trooper armor. Hell, a Jedi sliced two guys up, and later two of Jabba's employees traded blaster fire at a table, and everyone just went back to business in the Cantina.

I could see them locking it down on Coruscant, or Alderaan, on the civilized core worlds. But I think in the Outer Rim even Imperials know it's better just to maintain a light touch than to start shit with everyone. It also helps keep the scum out in the Outer Rim.

>>30431555
>getting this anal about spelling on a mongolian goat marriage board.
I'm surprised it took this long for the autists to catch it though.

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>>30430066

40k isn't sci-fi. 40k is space fantasy, and there is a major difference.

Also, Humies aren't the good guys, the Tau are.

>>30430281
>angry spacebattles fag detected.

>>30424810
>More realistic to the setting, the whole spine opening to a hangar is questionable, the drop-TIE racks on a ISD is superior for sortie rate purposes.
I think the Venator hangar can launch and recover fighters faster, but with the doors open is vulnerable to attack. And if I'm not mistaken the Venator does also have a ISD-style ventral hangar as well.

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>>30431505
That show needs to hurry up and come back.

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>>30431972
wow there bud you just expressed the wrong opinion, figured id warn you before you said it again!

>>30432137

>Imperial world's cut off by Tau offensive
>uh.. hey humans.. do you wanna.. you know.. get to know each other? Like, nothing serious, just like a trial thing? I mean, you can still love Emperor and all, that's cool, like, I totally see how you look at him and everything. I don't want to be a home wrecker, you have a really good thing going on. He ended the Age of Strife and everything for you guys.
>I mean, not even like a serious commitment, you don't have to send us troops or anything.

>uh yeah, sure Tau. That sounds.. really nice, we should totally get to know each other more..

>Oh uh.. thanks humies, I.. well I was thinking about you and I brought you this tech..

Tau are fucking based.

>>30431972
>tau
>mindfuck with pheromones
>good guys

>>30432231

>spouting non canon bullshit

Yeah fuck off woth your stupid Xenology

>>30427869
underrated

>>30428119
it aint me wasn't playing

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>>30429951

>when the lyrics "I ain't no senator's son" still make perfect fucking sense. >>30429975

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>Posting best SW related Tank, the based AAT

>>30429951
Kek

>>30426628
Ever watch the movies or series? They fire like a ships broadside guns. You divert power from one half of the turbolasers to the other half for twice the fuckuppery as well.

>>30432573
That arc was about the closest thing to SPEHS VIETNAM I've ever seen.

>>30428275
Thats like in BF3 when you bail out of a jet and let it crash into something, only probably fifty million times bigger in scale.

>>30432625
Which arc was that? Its hard finding decent episodes of that series

>>30432604
Separatist Ships fire broadside, Republic/Imperial/Rebel ships are nose-on and tapered to maximize forward firepower while reducing profile.

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>>30432654
Umbara episodes.

>>30432367
They did but i figured "eh why not"

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>>30432717
>when they started finishing off the wounded

>>30432052
Maybe, but im not aware of the drop-rack deployment in venators, plus we see the sliding dorsal panels used a hell of a lot more than the ventrals

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>>30432852
>Those episodes where the Repbulic back an insurgency on Onderon.
>First with military advisers
>Then with rockets to shoot down gunships.

>>30430057
>no sources except (lore books)

>>30428366
What's this from?

>>30428598
Starfox did it better
>COCKY LITTLE FREAKS!

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>>30431972
>space commies

Fuck off, heretic.

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>>30432911
Macross Frontier.

>>30428119
Not in enough games and rarely ever represented well as a flying murder machine.

>>30428275
Considering how much a Lucrehulk carries and how powerful they are that's a heck of a trade right there.

>>30432875
Wait what ?!? What arc is that.

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>>30433018
They lost two Venators but took out a Lucrehulk, and like six Munificent-class frigates. Not too bad.

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>>30433046
The Onderon arc.
A War on Two Fronts
Front Runners
Soft War
Tipping Points

>>30428475
Loaded with primitive morons who couldn't design something better than a battle rifle firing 7.62x51 NATO in !500! years.
Zero shields.
Rule of cool design creates blatant weak points.
Onboard super weapon equivalent is so weak you need sustained attacks with it from multiple ships to take down a typical covenant ship.

UNSC is complete shit tier excluding spartans. At least their still better than 40k.

>>30428119

It was too awesome for the movie it was introduced in.

>>30428188
payment for services rendered, specifically the use of the ship as part of a raid on a imperial intelligence archive during the hand of thrawn books.

>>30433111
Did the UNSC ever reverse engineer covenant tech during the war?

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>>30431972

>Tau

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>>30433091
That guy's returning in Rogue One.

>>30433131
A bit here and there. The UNSC Infinity is primarily Forerunner tech reverse engineering.

>>30433091
>dat filename
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcX9BqNCRqU

>>30433131
Didn't look like it beyond like 1-2 things. Only thing I knew for sure was forerunner stuff, and not much of that.

As much as the Clone Wars series was plagued by kid shit and goofy story bits it had some great battles. Umbara was so dark, gritty, and loaded with death I'm amazed they were allowed to make the arc in the first place.

>>30432208
FUCKING TIDF FUCKING SHITTING UP THREADS FUCK YOU HUMANS ARE STERILIZED BY THE TAU ALL IN THE NAME OF "THE GREATER GOOD" FUCKING BLUEBERRIES CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WARP TRAVEL

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>>30433219
It had its moments.

>tfw Kyle Katarn doesn't exist anymore
>tfw he's being replaced by a strong female who don't need no man

>>30433284
I really wish Disney had done the smart thing and read through the EU keeping the good shit like Katarn. At least Delta Squad is canon courtesy of the Clone Wars series.

>>30433374
It gets worse. The strong womyn that is replacing him? Her name is Janet Orso. They're barely trying to hide their donut steel approach to new Star Wars stuff.

>>30433419
>Janet Orso.
Did you mean Jyn Erso?

Also, you're an idiot.

>>30432875
BACKBLAST AREA NOT CLEAR

>>30433419
We're going to see a lot more bullshit now that some notable SJWs are getting their hands on it. I half expect "blaster control" to be a major thing in one of the upcoming shows or movies.

It was also pretty much expected they would cannibalize EU content while claiming originality.

>>30433535
>Muh SJWs

>>30433564
What? They're a legitimate scourge to anyone who doesn't agree with them and do stupid shit because "muh equality" regularly.

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>>30433493

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>>30433419
>Implying the protag of Rogue 1 is replacing Kyle Katarn.

Jesus Christ stop crying like one of those SJWs you're so afraid of.

>>30433588
Except you asshats blame anything you don't personally like on the SJWs, or the Jews, or the lizard people...

>>30432932
Shame that the new macross is 75% JPOP and 25% of JPOP with planes

>>30433131

Its so dumb, really.

>Couldn't put energy shields on ships, but it could put them on super soldiers
>Couldn't utilize directed energy weapons in a hand held or shipboard capacity, but they could create super power armor
>in all the years fighting the covenant, they couldn't figure out how to harness plasma
>in all the years being exposed to forerunner technology, they couldn't learn how to harness hard light

The UNSC were fucking retards.

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>>30433694
But that's wrong.
Nearly every episode in Delta has had the VF's show up at least once.

>>30433659
I'm guessing you either are a more moderate one or have not actually seen how stupid they regularly get.

How does this make you feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDon1LH1vA

>>30433622
>implying she isn't

They're already advertising her as the one that got a hold of the deathstar pans pre ANH. Before the Disney sale Kyle Katarn(with assistance from Jan Ors)was the one that did that.

>>30433720
wtf is this gay faggot shit?

>>30433713
Well, with the Forerunner stuff, and most of the Covenant stuff you could argue that it's so far ahead of what they have that reverse engineering just isn't possible.

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>>30433809
Why soft power wins wars: The Anime

>>30433809
Macross, turns out 80's-centric kiche doesn't really translate well when coupled with modern animating technique...

>>30433713
Those shields were basically brand new when Reach fell, and the rest of the series really isn't over that long of a time span. Consider that you enter the universe at the tail end of a losing war, and humanity doesn't have all that many places left to build new R&D infrastructure. After the war ended, humanity had way more time and room to spend studying shit they picked up in the war. And capturing covenant equipment to even study was pretty difficult during the war.

>>30433454
>implying that serial numbers filed off name is any better

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>>30433847
nah, its awesome.

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>>30433694
>Shame that the new macross is 75% JPOP and 25% of JPOP with planes
>Implying Macross hasn't always been about the power of music

>>30433819

Not exactly.

The smart AI the UNSC had were more than capable of doing it. Pooling their resources to analyze and dissect it would be pretty easy, considering how powerful their computational power is.

They did it with covie energy shields, why couldn't there be more of an effort for more tech?

>>30433860
Looks pretty cringy to me tbqhfam

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>>30433866
I can hear the song even now.

>>30428273
>not enjoying the joke

I visibly cringed at your autism

>>30433805
>How does this make you feel?
Pretty good guitar work. Why? Are you that retarded that there's more to it?

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>>30433819
What is the Infinity anon?
>Line of ark ships conceived as humanity's last refuge in cade earth fell.
>Reverse engineered Forerunner engines and covenant shields.
>The ultimate culmination of humanity's wartime advancements.

>>30434003
Now, when you say reverse engineered, do you actually mean reverse engineered, or did they slap on a bunch of captured tech and somehow find out how to operate it?

>>30433953
Guessing you've never watched videos from "Sargon of Akkad".

>>30434037
he's a faggot and Guiles theme has been around for longer than the internet

>>30434058
disregard that i meant ken because i'm fuck

>>30434076
But Guile's theme is better and goes with everything.

>>30434021
Properly reverse engineered, took components and found how to best maximize their use as well as mate them to a ship before making their own. Infinity's shields are more advanced than any covenant ship's and its the only ship in the UNSC fleet utilizing forerunner tech derivatives. Which became awkward when the forerunner systems mated with a forerunner big bad.

>>30434037
>Implying I care about the political opinions of randos on youtube
I bet you get into arguments in the Youtube comment section, too. I don't even get how that's related to a metal Street Fighter cover.

>>30434102
Not so much that as "dumbasses brought a device onboard that linked the Forerunner tech to the Shield World."

>>30434121
said faggot uses it as his intro and a bunch of spergs think its faggon of fagkads own intro instead of just one he stole from a random metal head who's good at guitar

>>30434134
Soooo, what, am I supposed to be seeking out randos I disagree with on youtube and getting mad hearing their intro music?

What kind of sad fucking life do you live?

>>30424755
This is awesome, you should do another thread of find a flaw but on the Death Staaaarrrrrrr. Never mind.

>>30428193
>you are now realizing this is the inspiration for the LAAT's design

>>30434178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_3rle6j24

>>30434175
wrong person friendo i'm on your side

>>30429158
>80% fatality rate is successful
>crew must be replenished by external reinforcements with EVERY jump
>Imperium has absolutely zero force projection outside of its own territories
How do grimdark circlejerkers say these people can beat every other sci-fi again?

>>30424831

It's difficult to imagine a regime like the Galactic Empire being lenient towards private citizens owning blasters. On the other hand, Luke mentions shooting womp rats for fun when he was growing up, and in Mos Eisley everyone and their mother is armed with something. So I figure that the amount of regulation on each particular planet directly correlates with the amount of Imperial presence on that planet; on a backwater world like Tattooine a gun wouldn't be too hard to come by, legally or otherwise.

>>30434291
SPESS MUHREENS + the human population is somewhere in the quadrillions.

>>30430112
To be fair, the Empire places the CIC on that exposed bridge. It's why the Executor got snackbar'd by a piloted missile after the shields were disabled.

>>30434337
No, Arvel allahu ackbared into the bridge.

>>30431837
I think Luke's rifle was a slugthrower, which aren't as heavily restricted.

It might have also helped that Tatooine was the ass end of nowhere and controlled by a mafia.

>>30434076
It's because of Sargon that Ken's theme can be a bit "triggering", uses that particular version as his closer. Play that on some college campuses and you might start some shit, especially if the jackasses are "protesting" the flavor of the week.

SJWs do a lot of stupid stupid shit. They're a very loud and obnoxious group and legitimately the enemies of gun owners among many other groups (like real liberals), I'm actually kind of surprised anyone here would defend them.

>>30434337
Executors are also supposed to have a backup bridge and full retard strength shields. But then it would have been a whole lot less exciting had the ship just continued murderfucking rebels rather than nosediving into DS II.

>>30428029
Well acceleration and gravity are the exact same thing, so this isn't really simulating gravity either.

>>30433068
>Y-Wings will never just be older starfighters the Rebels had lying around again

>>30434386
His was likely the same type the tuskens use, but better maintained.

Blaster ownership was much more controlled by the Empire but I don't remember anything outright banning it except planetary governments like Alderaan's do it themselves. Some worlds outright banned them, some worlds had the space equivalent of an AWB, some were giggle switch friendly. Outer rim generally gave no fucks what anyone thought, harsh and full of outlaws.

>>30433419
>Jyn Orso
You mean Jan Ors, who was Katarn's love interest and right hand woman?
>implying this isn't a setup for Katarn himself to be a surprise appearance

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>>30428182
They had retarded sights though

>>30432066
Is the expanse hard science fiction?

>>30434504
To be fair they probably had HUDs for aiming too. Losing your helmet is probably a big no-no.

>>30434352
>missing the joke about how the A-Wing is a missile with a pilot

>>30434397
>supposed to have a secondary CIC
In what material was this brought up? The Empire seemed too heavy on hubris to avoid single points of failure, anyway.
>full retard strength shields
Even the mightiest shield will fail if it's pounded over and over. Ackbar called for all ships to concentrate fire on the Executor.

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>>30434532
No

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>>30434533
The Clone Commando helmet at least has a HUD.

>>30434570
One of the rogue squadron games had you hitting a secondary bridge on it if memory serves. Was farther forward and sort of hidden among the rest of the structures in that mess of structures.

>>30434619
The fact that they made clone commandos and Delta Squad canon with this series makes me so happy.

I would bet the commando helmet is more capable, but it would be odd if the regular clones had no HUD.

>>30434533
>>30434619
I hadn't thought of that..Thank you anons, this soothes my autism

>>30433225
>CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WARP TRAVEL
Top kek, believing everything you 'god-emperor' tells you. Tau did figure out how to build warp drives, they just can't properly enter it due to having no psykers. They don't even need your silly warp. They just graze it and it works.

>Slower but inherently reliable travel instead
>No issues with time travel, exploding, possession, etc
>Travel is at a consistent speed
>Immune to the effects of warp
>Warp Daemons and what have you aren't interested in the Tau and thus ignore them
>Get where you want, when you want, with no issues.
That's better you flithy humie

>T'au meet-up when
>Bring your kroot puppers, mine's friendly

>>30434504
The sights don't seem that bad. It seems pretty good for a sci-fi gun since most usually have random shapes that protrudes out from the gun that usually blocks sight.

>>30434546
Now I get it.

>>30434532
It is on the firm side of what you'll get on TV, but i wouldn't call it hard by litterature standard. You have some nice bits like the CIWS having venturi nozzles to cancel recoil >>30434588 , a guy opening his helmet for a few seconds in vacuum the right way, expiring before, water vapor out of mouth, and actually not exploding instantly, vertically stacked ships, hollowed out asteroids as space stations, etc. I'm mostly bothered at the shitty graining look of all spaceship scenes.

>>30428366
>Bothering to have a runway in space

>>30434588
That looks pretty reasonable. It even cancels out the recoil by expelling gas out of the back like a rocket launcher.

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>>30435049

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>>30435074

>>30432208
>I mean, you can still love Emperor and all, that's cool, like, I totally see how you look at him and everything
The Tau execute anyone that doesn't follow the greater good

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>>30433284
Rogue One is just Dark Forces. Jyn Erso/Jan Ors is just replacing Kyle. (Defecting from empire, stealing death star plans, new type of stormtroopers etc.)

>>30433091
>>30433091
WHAT? Those two tentacle head alien girls at the end? I got diamonds..... Where can I watch this for free without fear of fbi on my door or drowning in my own semen?

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>>30435514
>WHAT? Those two tentacle head alien girls at the end?
Ahsoka?

Just go to a place like Kisscartoon you can find the series there to watch.

>>30428119
Didi someone sit in those balls on the wings, or was that controlled by one of the two guys int the cockpit?

>>30429139
Get ready for 50 hours of politics interspersed with horrifyingly brutal naval combat.

>>30435718

what anime?

>>30434291
Because that image, esspecially the part about 80% of people dying, is complete and utter bullshit

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>>30436483
Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

>>30434532
Not really, but it comes closer than most scifi. No magical FTL or gravity generators, no inertial dampeners, no shields. Ships are designed so that their acceleration will produce faux gravity, signals take time to get to destinations, and in general the laws of physics apply consistently.

Everything designed by humans seems pretty reasonable and I can't think of anything from the first two books (the one's I've actually ready) or the first season of the TV series that just shits allover the laws of physics or my suspension of disbelief like Trek or Star Wars.

>>30434291
It ain't 80 percent.

Plus they counter it by literally having millions of planets and like billions of ships (not warships mind you which are only a fraction). Along with a regressing but still powerful industrial base of literally thousands of shipyard PLANETS.

>>30435156

They also allow converts to worship the Emperor as long as they believe in the Greater Good.

>>30437196
Plus most Terran ships are mobile space colonies with self-replenishing crew and so on.

>>30434291
Because logistics is not something they fully grasp.

The galactic empire on the other hand had a fucking god-tier logistics program.

>25,000 imperial star destroyers alone
>a whole wing of fighters each (~72)
>by our standards an enhanced mechanized division per isd with 9700 infantry, tanks, etc
> A premade garrison capable of deploying a brigade on a planet in a day
>precise, reliable, fast hyperdrive that can get virtually anywhere in the galaxy in a day or two
>a seemingly inexhaustible supply of corvettes, frigates, and other destroyers
>built a 120km planet killer in secret over 20 years, then a 900 km one in just about half a year for the DS2
>planets honeycombed with endless factories
>clone war surplus


Seriously, imperial logistics seem to be composed of "hey whered we put that last.. oh wait we have another one, never mind".

its literally as if we kept up ww2 level production into vietnam and we had so many tanks and helicopters we could outnumber the nva 10 tanks:1 guy

>>30424842
>It does not actually exist.
This X 10**1000000000000

/thread

>>30430104
..are you me?

>>30432367
>yfw the CIS scum were actually right and the Republic was a corrupt shit hole being run by a Sith Lord

>>30437733
>YFW the CIS scum were being used by the same Sith lord to turn the Republic into the Empire

>>30437775
He was definitely some sort of double nigger

>>30437733
>YFW the CIS scum was right, but also mostly a bunch of amoral corporate profiteer fucks

>>30428625
I want to say "it's a vanilla battlecruiser" but honestly the modded ones are often more expensive/more specialized so I always have one of these guys going with.

>yfw space sucks

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>>30431972

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>>30438015
It is a vacuum after all.

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>>30428119
It's not a Pelican, that's a major flaw.

>>30438751
Pelicans are garbage. Basically everything UNSC is garbage except for the damn spartans.

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>>30428552
Not unless its the Pillar of Autumn, it could fire 3 shots per charge. In Halo 1 it takes out 4 CCS cruisers and disables a 5th which you later board in the 3rd mission.

>>30428675
>You would have to aline the ship to a completely different axis to be able to flank the top and underside of enemy capital ships.
Who the fuck cares? Space is three-dimensional.

>>30428475
It's not a Super MAC.

>3000 ton Depleted Uranium projectile
>moves at 4% the speed of light
>can destroy Super Carriers with a single shot

Their only downside is they're limited to orbital stations and possibly the Infinity.

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>>30438774
ODST's are pretty cool too. To each ones own.

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>Find a flaw

>>30438863
Infinity seems to have directed energy weapons, if they can punch a hole in the Didact's super ship I think it's pretty damn good.

>>30438808
To be fair they weren't really shooting back, what with them being in space Jerusalem.

>>30439171
The 3D movie had pretty visuals and shitty everything else.

>>30439171
It'll never get a big budget TV series reboot like Space Battleship Yamato.

>>30433713
The UNSC could replicate the plasma. They couldn't replicate the batteries, meaning human plasma weapons were limited to a couple shots at most.

The shield tech was brand spanking new and super expensive. Reach to the end of Halo 3 is only about six months. Or three. I forget.
Absolutely no time to put shields on anything especially since they were reverse engineered from the Jackal arm shields. The shields used by Elites and on warships were way too complicated to reverse engineer.

Hard light weaponry is also brand new and never before seen. < 1 year old, not nearly enough time to reverse engineer weapon using light itself.

>>30434003
The engines were Forerunner everything else was human made.

>>30438808
That's only because they were trying to avoid damaging the Ring. The game explicitly states you'd all already be dead except they're sending boarding parties instead. Also it only did so well because Cortana was doing the shooting, and she was the strongest AI ever made in the last 50,000 years.

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>>30432520
Hi....

>>30430272
Why don't they ever have gun turrets running along the "spine"??

>>30440420
Jesus fuckmothering christ that looks retarded.

>>30440472
muh invincibru sentient battletank that can do literally everything ever.
not even japanese mecha are as ridiculous

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>>30428275

>>30424755

Main thrusters only face one direction and a human crew along with any non solid-state components prevent the vessel from achieving any relativistic acceleration, disallowing it to evade large hyper velocity projectiles.

If it were up to me I'd just make a big ship as light as possible with a large heavy shield and a big gun both facing forward and make it fast as fuck. Sharing similarities with modern day tank design in regards to maximum forward threat value.

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Sure are a lot of retard ground pounders in this thread.

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>>30431972

>Humies aren't the good guys, the Tau are.

McCarthy was right

>>30432022

Kek

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>primitivefags unironically fight in ways that don't consist of teleporting antimatter onto people star systems away

>>30431972
HERESY

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So what is the most /k/ science fiction out there?

This gets my vote, since it was by ex-airforce and only got more relevant the 30+ years since it was written

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>>30440710

>>30440721
40k is gay, also /tg/'s thing.

>>30440726
Cry some moar. That series is shit.

>>30440721
40k is rad, don't listen to >>30440726

It's not super /k/ though. Honestly, Dune or Starship Troopers is probably the most /k/ anime, maybe BSG. Or Stargate.

>>30440739
>Honestly, Dune or Starship Troopers is probably the most /k/ anime, maybe BSG. Or Stargate.
None of those are anime, except Starship Troopers, since that got a couple OVA's.

>>30440739
SG1

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>>30440721
>being this retarded
It's more /k/ than anything else in the thread. Literally written by airforce member about airforce, moral decay in the military and government gradually eroding society with stupid-accurate projections of the perpetual war on terror to follow the cold war it was based on.

Somewhere I have a screencap of the author shittalking The Expanse, still makes me giggle.

>>30440739
Starship Troopers.
The whole thing was one big wankfest for the military.

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>>30440739
40k has a serious case of "we should have stopped years ago but lets keep going and see what happens". Fucking retarded levels of one-upsmanship with grimdark stupidity, that's what happens.

Also, shit's weak yo.

>>30440780
>>30440739
Nah, 40k never took itself seriously and was never meant to. Kind of negates any such problems with it, but also disqualifies it.

Also
>anime

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>>30440710
Mah nigga

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>>30424755
>spaceships
Aww yeah

>>30440766
>fanboys about series written by chairforce about super space chairforce
>calls ST military wankfest
You want to know how I know you're a fucktard?

>>30440821
>>calls ST military wankfest
>You want to know how I know you're a fucktard?
What, did you only see the satirical movie?

>>30440826
Why the hell would anyone watch the movie? The books are infinitely better.

>>30440831
>books
>s
>plural
OK, I'm out. I have no idea what you're talking about and vice versa.

>>30440841
There were books by other authors "based" on it. Or it's a typo.
also >>30440831 >>30440821
you do realize how heavily criticized Starship Troopers was for being propaganda for militarism / fascism / etc
Literally half the wikipedia article is criticism about it.

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>All this Star Wars, Halo, and anime love

Normies get out

>>30440889
>he says, posting Star Trek, literally the most normie scifi franchise outside of Star Wars
>a series literally started by a pacifist socialist

>>30440859
>criticism about ST being propaganda
True enough, but I always figured it was part of how it was written. As in part of the perspective.
>>30440889
He pot it's kettle. Shut the fuck up.

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>>30440902
>>30440900
>Doesn't know the difference between Star Trek and Star Fleet Battles.

Ha! Ha ha ha!

Star Fleet Universe, used in Star Fleet Battles, is an alternative Star Trek entirely, with it's own history, canon, etc.
Paramount didn't think the gaming rights were worth shit during TOS, and partway through TOS allowed Starfleet Battles to be made using anything in the show up to that point with an almost no-limits license. As a result, things that weren't explained yet had to be hammered out in it's own setting. The two diverged completely as Star Trek went on into future series and other official gaming licensing.

Meanwhile Star Fleet Universe, Star Fleet Battles, etc still exists as it's own separate thing only known to the most powerful grognards.

Normies get out. You failed.

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>>30440710

What am I looking at ?

>>30440936
so its some fanfiction-tier shit on the level of robotech board games and star wars EU crap.

>>30440936
It's all the same you fuck

>>30440946
>>30440955
>fanfiction
Licensed fan-fiction, and very popular for at least a decade or more.
You might as well say the Star Wars EU is retroactively null-and-void during the time it was mainstay.

>>30440958
>You might as well say the Star Wars EU is retroactively null-and-void during the time it was mainstay
But it is.

>>30440958
>Licensed fan-fiction, and very popular for at least a decade or more.
>Licensed fan-fiction
>fan-fiction
Christ you're dense

>>30440945
oldass science fiction from the 80's that's really hard to read or find now, but regardless was stupid influential and subversively popular before the creator decided he hated his fans and went out of his way to ensure it became obscure
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/AlbedoErmaFelnaEDF
He's actually going to finally put out a few new issues before he dies of old age apparently, and finally started slowly uploading it
http://www.stevegallacci.com/archive/edf/2016/05/03

If we're doing obscure Star Trek trivia apparently,
It's actually referenced during TNG, and one of the issue's covers includes Picard's chair.

>>30440961
>>30440974
>But it is.
No, this guy is dense. There was a significant period of time where EU was EU, and the fact it's non-canon post-disney doesn't change the past. Might as well say the 1911 never happened because the military later adopted some 9mm shit. You hop in a time machine, the EU was the EU. Go back further, and Starfleet Battles was hot shit. Seriously popular, huge influence on early non-historical wargaming.

>fan-fiction, licensed
Fucking read up on it. They literally have an agreement with the owners of the Star Trek IP, that they can make this fan-work and sell it. Paramount's license for it was stupid in retrospect but they didn't expect the show to be a huge hit yet. Hence it's only valid up to a certain episode of TOS when they made the agreement.

>>30440997
It's still fanfiction though. Official or not that's the normiest of the normie.

>>30440975
>before the creator decided he hated his fans and went out of his way to ensure it became obscure
This seems to be a they all to did in the 80s.

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>>30440997
>hating on people for not knowing the obscure Star Trek
>>30440900
>>30440902
>hating on people for liking the not-obscure Star Trek

The fuck is wrong with just Star Trek.
DS9 had some pretty good /k/ moments

>>30440975

Thank you !

This excerpt reminded me one scene in a comic book called The Forever War

>Star Fleet Universe
>the normiest of the normie.

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>>30441029
you actually read through the 27 pages I linked on his site? ran around 600 pages, and had a sequel
2-years or so before he's got the full thing uploaded, so check on it

>>30441015
>hating
No I'm saying its normie. Not saying it's bad.
>hating on people
No just disagreeing.
>DS9
That's was one my favorites.

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Find a flaw

>>30440750
>>30440797
I just jumped in on someone saying 40k is shit, when was this about anime?

>>30440766
Fucking exactly why /k/ does/should love SST.

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>>30440544
>a human crew along with any non solid-state components prevent the vessel from achieving any relativistic acceleration, disallowing it to evade large hyper velocity projectiles.
It has inertial dampeners and can accelerate at something like 3,000 G.

>>30441664
You literally said:
>Honestly, Dune or Starship Troopers is probably the most /k/ anime, maybe BSG. Or Stargate.

>>30424755
Isn't real

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>>30434570
>Even the mightiest shield will fail if it's pounded over and over. Ackbar called for all ships to concentrate fire on the Executor.

though thats technically true the Executor really is the definition of retard strength shields

3 cruisers hit it while in hyperspace

now im no pencil-necked math expert, but even i could tell you that 3 at-least multi hundred meter and heavy warships going faster than fucking light can make for a pretty powerful projectile, and the executors shields hold

>>30439260
Infinity has 4 new-gen MAC's and a shitload of missile systems.

>>30433111
Up to the Human-Covenant super high tech weapons wasn't really developed since kinetic weaponry was cheaper and easier to mass produce and the worst we fought was other humans with kinetic weaponry


>>30433713
The amount of time from the Fall of Reach to the end of the Human-Covenant war was only 5 months, Humanity was down to Earth and a few forgotten colonies and remote bases. when Reach fell a lot of tech and data was destroyed when the WINTER CONTINGENCY was put in place which includes the Cole Protocol (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/United_Nations_Space_Command_Emergency_Priority_Order_098831A-1). the MJOLNIR armor system took about 40 years from when it started in 2512 to 2552 to get shields and that was only after they reverse-engineered a Jackal defense gauntlet

>>30440382
Even still, the PoA was so powerful they created a PoA-Class ship in honor of it.

>>30440538
I'll never understand why they sacrificed the Pegasus despite it being the superior ship in favor of a literal museum ship.

>4 landing bays
>double the tonnage and protection
>triple the firepower
>can manufacture Viper MkVI's