MILSURP/CAMO/MILITARIA THRAED

Anyone know what the difference is between SSO Partizan-M and Modox Chimera?

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In the meantime.

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>>30422575

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>>30422583
Nice! I like the green one better than the red.

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It's like an upgraded version of urban dispersion. Pattern has little diamond shapes in the green. Why they went with while trimmings I'm not sure.

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>>30422601
Maybe because it FUCKING GLOWS IN SUNLIGHT HOLY SHIT.

>>30422600
I prefer the pink personally, even though the green is arguably superior.

>>30422562
SSO is a respectable company.

Modik is a counterfeit chinese clone imported by a meme store to mock their customerbase.

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TFW This is already out of date...

>>30422614
Jesus Christ, for a second I thought you had a third, snow version.

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>>30422649
I can see why it;s solidly in their fashion line, not the pseudo-military one.

Best surplus to go with black pc?

>>30422677
Probably M81.

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>tfw we'll never know what Estonian digital uniforms were originally intended to look like because the only known photo of the prototype has combat gear over the garb itself

>>30422614
UCP/10

>>30422614
Riperino, but at least it might be effective on the underside of a jet.

Also, how may meters did it take to make one karst parka, excluding the liner? Would it be possible for me to get my mitts on a copy of the pattern for some $?


>>30422789
Speaking of ESTPAT, what's the normal weight of a fabric you'd use to make camps? Should I go for 350 GSM or 550? Those were the only two available weights in the pattern I want, so I was just wondering.

Russians are the best salesmen sometimes
>hey man, you got any 6B47 helmets?
>*sends a picture of helmet, carrying bag, 2 covers, and 3 VKBO balaclavas* Is 230
>6B34 goggles?
>"50 dollar"

Next weeks check is gonna learn about predestination

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>>30422986
I'm going to wait for an overcast day and try and see if I can get a shot where I'm not light up like a christmas tree.

>>30423026
That would explain why dispersion is underlayed in white.

Uh, my parkas didn't have liners. Took around 3M per parka. Although some guy posted the pattern already, it wasn't the refined version. I'd appreciate an object more than money. Something small would do it I suppose.

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>>30422466
Anyone wanna grab this for $50? Excellent condition, badged.

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Duh, of course. Send me telnyashka.

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>>30423026

350 sounds good to me. Nobody likes heavy shit, especially when it's warm outside.

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>>30423092
Finally, something I don;t need to buy because I already have one. Sorry M.

>>30423141
Buy it for me then? ;3

>>30423141
The marksman badge appears different from mine. Is it a different badge?

>>30423141
Oh and it would've looked like it's hanging on a fence on you, it's got a ~50in chest :^)

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>>30423166
My understanding is that Harmzen was hardcore. Best guess is yours is marksman, and this one is a step above that. What that'd be I wouldn't know.

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>>30423137

Damn, that looks pretty nice actually.
Nice haircut.

>>30423166

From what I was told it is a "Skiet Balskie" or Shooter Badge, I think it's some sort of shooting proficiency badge, probably different tiers.

>>30423092
Got any pants?

>>30423112

Nudge-nudge, wink-wink: Galils take regular AK bolt carriers and fire control group parts, all of which can easily be obtained from various German web stores.

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>>30423186
Well suited to the american market then.

>>30423207
Problem: Nearly the whole thing is fucked. Barrel, gas system, the lot. Smuggling a whole new one wouldn't actually be as hard as you'd assume if it was completely broken down, but it;s all about the ammunition. No point in having a working thing if you've got nothing to put it in. may as well stick with a de-ac.

>>30423239
>not wanting the ability to cock (lel) and dry-fire you're are neutered boomstick

>>30423206
Nah, i've looked for some time for pants but not even my SA contact couldn't find a pair in the same condition and fit for this size.

>>30423213
How come no photoshoot in the urban M94?

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>>30423282
Still no Euro size 48 pants in M90?

Who here bought from ww2 impressions? Do they make great quality gears? i been wanting an M43 jacket for a while and I was looking at AtTheFront's model and it doesn't look as accurate as the original while WW2 impressions is an exact copy but is it worth the 220$?

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>>30423488
The autumn variant, no. I have a normal, green coloration pair. Not sure on the size, but it's got a 94cm waist.

Where the hell do I find M56 ammo pouches online?

>>30423207
No no no NO! You'd have to re-headspace it. AKs are NOT like ARs. Every BCG is unique to the gun. If you go around swapping hem you might be fine but it might also blow up in your face.

>>30423576
here you go anon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vietnam-Era-M56-Ammo-Pouches-Sold-in-Pairs-/221962624238?hash=item33ae00dcee:g:OC4AAMXQVT9Syyk2
NOT MY LISTING

>>30423600
Ebay is bullshit on shipping, $25 to europeland is a tad on the steep side.

Know anywhere else?

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>>30423551
Would also be interested in a size 48 set of the summer variant

>>30423651
I'll keep that in mind.

>>30423642
Here's what i found, you could try sofmilitary.co.uk but tis kinda pricey
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-NEW-M16-M1956-USA-CANVAS-AMMUNITION-AMMO-POUCHES-37763-M56-Vietnam-pouches-/400625387297?hash=item5d47224721:g:c9wAAOxyBjBTTmzo

Also i'd ask Sully, he runs a surp shop and his prices are pretty good, but i'm afraid ebay may be the only option

>>30423083
If you'd like something small, you'd simply ADORE my penis.

How about an OD cannuck fleece?

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>>30423137
Wanna play some war games?

I need to get a haircut, hence the hat.

>>30423490
Just buy a real one for $60

>>30423987
I did find some for that price but they are small short on ebay

Hey guys, fairly new to this. I want a light waterproof jacket to wear in windy weather. I had a perfect austrian m65 but its too thick for the weather. The only problem is i hate camo colour pattern. I want something in solid colour (od green kinda thing). Any reccomendation?

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>>30424036
Pretty much anything I can think of is camo, you'd be better off asking >>>/fa/

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>mfw getting an SLR-104 as a reward for nearing completion of my RATNIK

I-I'm not a slavaboo, b-baka!

>>30424217
Fucking rotations

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>>30424217
Do you have the watch and multitool too?

>>30424276
Not yet, got my helmet/goggles/balaclava on order, then I'm gonna save another 200 bucks and get the pads, patches, telnyashka, gloves, watch, etc.

I have returned. Too lazy to tripcode.

Dont have much new, small set of things.

suggest camo waterproof ponchos, no one-tones

>>30424454
Go with rain jacket. I know ponchos look better, but they are so impractical.

>>30424434
Welcome back from death!

>>30424454
The Flecktarn ones are probably your best bet.

>>30424466
what makes them impractical?

>>30424476
>flecktarn
overused like a mofugga

Is ATACS good for desert use?

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>>30423702
I'll ask if the Philly guys are looking for more as well.

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>>30424434

It's been awhile

>>30424491
There's Alpenflage ponchos, but I wouldn't ever recommend a poncho, they are just a pain in the ass.

If you're looking to be unique, you're going to have to find something else.

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I got a box today.

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>>30424668
Huh, what's this? I wonder who could be behind this note....

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Won a Dutch M58, even has the wool liner. No hood though.
Looks to be a late 70's/80's iteration.

>>30424700
I thought the red thing was a Trump hat from the thumbnail

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>>30424700

>more Dutch stuff

Shiiiieeed

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>>30424728
Nahhh that's dutch sugar foods. Dutch bro is based as fuck.
Caramel filled waffles waivers? Delicious!

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What else is in here..

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SAF blouse and trousers

SAF carrier

x1 buttpack
x3 frag pouches
x3 SAR pouches
x1 detachable flak collar
x1 canteen pouch
x1 helmet cover

Pictures if interested.

>>30424479
They flap around in the wind, are very sweaty, snag on stuff, all sorts of stuff. The plus side is that you can put it over a backpack easily, but you can use a backpack cover instead.

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>>30424783
Wait a second, these aren't dutch...big guy 4 U size m90

>>30424835
Sweet! That solves our firewood problem.

Can someone point me in the direction of a WW2 (not polish, czech, hungarian or bulgarian) helmet for under $50?

I know a german one would be a stretch for $50, but I would prefer one of those or a swiss m18/40

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>>30424783
>>30424812

Gotta say that looks tasty af
Dutch jungle when

>>30424815

Post it

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>>30424896
>Swiss M18/40
That's exactly what I was going to suggest.

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>>30424896
Not likely to happen. Even US helmets are $60 plus.
>>30424849
Oi m8 these are going to pay for our ammo (hopefully)

Something for my collection on the other hand

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>>3042481>>30424918

Dumpan

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>>30424918
NOW!! No pants sadly

>>30424934
Oh alright...save one for me please.

In all what did you get?

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>>30424942

Canteen pouch and helmet cover in buttpack

>>30424926
Where might I find one of these?

>>30424957
6 m90 shirts
jungle jacket
jungle parka (lol)
desert parka
2 desert pants

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>>30424966

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>>30425028

Chrome is being a cunt about pictures.

I have more ADF stuff coming in soon, DPCUs and a smock. I picked up a tropentarn field shirt but thats not particularly exciting.

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>>30424988

Interested in jungle shirt.

>>30425483

Good shit, what kind of smock did you get?

>>30424207
Desert camo is acceptable

>>30425588
Sent you an email if you didnt see it.

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>>30425606
>KSOR

>>30425626
Holy fuck its expensive. Even the brit dpm parka was only 30. I tought milsurp was supposed to be cheap

>>30425588

All auscam. Said he would send me his battle belt and H harness. Trading him two sets of M-81 BDUs, some unit patches, branch tapes and an Eagle Industries war belt

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>>30425679
That's not surplus yet.
I say OD wool.

>>30425679
>he thinks hard to get milsurp is cheap
>he thinks KSOR is expensive
wew laddie, don't go looking for any Russian helmets soon. I'm looking at dropping about 500 on a K6-3 and that's a relatively cheap helmet.
I was fucking with you on the KSOR though, it'll be like impossible to find in the right size anyways, everything I know is slav and by extension relatively expensive. Anything British will be cheap as fuck, especially now after Brexit, that's probably your best bet, I think after that is flecktarn(?) but Telny or Alpen will correct me. Anything desert really that isn't MarPat or Brit DPM I think you'll be looking at a 50 dollar minimum

>>30424518
Bump :(

>>30425905
ATACS should be fine for desert use, it's what it was designed for

>>30424518
>>30425905
Yes ass long as your not talking about ATACS FG then yes its great.

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>>30425721

This was the last package. Cadet cut uniform with a full ALICE rig.

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>>30425721

Actually I think I saw that Aussmock

>>30426121
Yours a 2011?

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Well that was easy. Dutch jungle is sold already.

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>>30426179

Tags cut off

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>>30426978

>>30425748
Fuck me but ksor sure looks nice (aint gonna spend 150 on a windbreaker tho) vut brit dpm are a bit heavy. Anything else thats basically brit windbreaker?

>>30426978
>>30427191

Noice. Thats general issue. Mine is a cadet cut. Tags are faded

I would post the rig but its buried in a kitbag somewhere

Telny check email

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>>30425606
>inb4 airshit

>>30427739
Gross.

>>30422466
Anybody know a country or contractor that makes 6 color desert m65 field jackets?

I love my DBDU top and trousers but I need something to go with it all besides the night desert parka.

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>>30427784

The UAE. Good luck finding one though.

You'll probably just have to buy a commercial one. Alpha used to make some.

>>30427347
Shoulda been around for it a few months ago, I think whatever JTF it is that uses it surplussed a shit ton because it was everywhere for a little bit, but now it's just retard huge sizes left. I'm not even sure how but my guy managed to get one in 44/46 3/4 for me, which is like impossible to find for anything I want in Russia

>>30427739
Ew man airshit. Im poor but i still have dignity

>>30427921
How much did you pay for it?

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>>30427941
I paid like 200 or so shipped, but I always seem to pay a small premium because of my size being rare as fuck. That's for the jacket, pants, and suspenders though. If you do want to get it though, and manage to find it, know that the neck cover(?) is fucking huge. Soda can for reference, bottom is where the collar of my undershirt is roughly

>>30427941
They also come in multiple levels. VKBO being 1-8 and IIRC KSOR goes from 1-6(?) but don't quote me for that, my suit is a level 4, and my VKBO is demiseason, still need to check if that's 4 or 5

>>30427985
Perfect for my giraffe neck. Looks amazing but still way too expensive. Is it heavy?

>>30428057
Nah, it's pretty light for what it is, just a tad puffy cause of the goretex. It'll definitely keep you warm in mild weather but you won't burn up if the sun is out either

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>>30423352
My camera person has been busy, and I have a shoot idea for it that requires a third person.

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>>30428377

>three-way

Good luck finding someone who's up for that.

>>30428429
It is proving to be a bit of a pain.

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>>30428435

If I were photogenic and in the UK I would be up for it.

>>30428462
It doesn't need someone photogenic, it just needs someone. Someone about my size in a uniform and balaclava that doesn't mind nakedness (of other people) and mocking up an Abu Ghraib prison set.

I'd also at least want to get a replica weapon or something, so I could do two people in different uniforms standing around. i.e. the M90 and M93 urban.

>>30428482

>stumbled onto this post
>Abu Ghraib cosplay

I know I've been on here long enough to not think that what you want to do is weird.

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>>30428482

>Someone about my size in a uniform and balaclava that doesn't mind nakedness (of other people) and mocking up an Abu Ghraib prison set

Oh, it's one of those kinds of photo shoots.

Well I'm instantly unqualified on the height requirement.

>>30428482
That sounds a little kinky, who is it for?

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["What's that sound" intensifies]

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>>30428810

Nice death card

>>>/wsg/1139865

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Anyone know how much this could go for? Apparently it's an experimental Russian uniform, I have the pants as well.

>>30424987
http://www.hessenantique.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=S91667100

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>>30428533
Well roll up the trousers and pretend to be a slav.

>>30428558
My own amusement.

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>>30427784

>>30428482
I'd do it.

>>30429469
Ask Camo Anon. he hasnt been around though.
Go over to the IACMC forum and ask them.

>>30430375
Speaking of IACMC I want to boast about the karst if it happens, did someone say getting an account there was hard?

>>30430394
It's easy but it takes awhile for the admin to approve it. He's a bit lazy.

>>30430394
Also some of the guys arent a fan of you because of the karst repros lol

http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t10182-trial-pattern

>Crap, so there is fake cloth out there as well? Great.
lol they have no idea.

>>30430448
Not like my version is hard to spot. I still believe that M65 cut set is fake as fuck.

Posting an original jacket will make them jelly as all hell.

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>>30430448

I'd love to see their reaction to pic related.

>>30430479
I still want one.

>>30429462
Belarusian TTSkO

Nice find.

>>30430595


You just make this shit up, right?

>>30430757
First day in the thread I'm guessing?

Nobody here knows anything more than what can be found with a 5 minute google search.

Hell, most of them don't even bother to read about what they're searching past the search results page and pass this off as "knowledge".

They're a joke to respectable collectors everywhere.

>>30430757
No, I don't.

It's the correct colors and appears to be the right cut. It's not like it's so rare it's impossible that he could have gotten one, and he's found rarer things in the past anyways.

You'd be surprised how much some Belarusian issue stuff looks commercial in it's cut, but the bottom circular strip around the bottom and the slant pockets give it away.

>>30424896
Italian M33's can be had for around $50

>>30430785
Source or GTFO.

[autistic googling intensifies]

And no, a picture your deficient brain thinks looks similar doesn't count but I know you'll humiliate yourself by posting it anyways.

>>30430785
>It's the correct colors and appears to be the right cut.

And what are the right colours and cut for Belorussian TTsKO? Hmm?

You have any references?

>>30428810
Where is your t-shirt?
Why is your belt so tight?
Are you intentionally playing the part of a REMF?

>>30430803
>>30430807
Can't tell is same-fagging, or what. Either way, the Belarusian camopedia page has a good reference for the color schemes, so take it for what you want.

http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Belarus

Concerning the cut, there have been may different slight changes and different versions over the years, feel free to browse the Belarus IACMC page and compare the cuts. It's either Belarusian or it's commercial, and a picture of any stamps or tags could confirm that. The slavs love making it hard to tell, and allowed some private purchase items to be used, as you can also read here.

http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t3877-commercial-or-private-purchase

If that's not good enough for you, oh well. That's all I got. It's not like there's loads of information about Belarusian stuff out there anyways. I'd love to see what you two could also dig up about it, every bit helps. I don't claim to be some sort of all-knowing surplus buff that is never wrong, so I don't know why you're riding my dick so hard about it.

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>>30430887
>Can't tell is same-fagging

Get a load of this newfag. It must be horrible for your parents to deal with making an autismo who can't tell how much time passed when the numerical data is right in front of him. I thought you autists could only accept numerical data anyways. Is it possible to have autism on top of autism?

>If that's not good enough for you, oh well
So basically you found more trite and meaningless nonsense.
>why you're riding my dick so hard about it.
Because you're an obnoxious attentionwhore shitting up /k/.

>>30430887

Not only don't your links support anything you claim (nothing in the links resemble the shirt you gratuitously called Belorussian), but you're incapable of admitting that you're firing straight out of the asshole and admitting you were dead wrong.

You're almost as dim and insufferable as the retarded Gook autist.

>>30430910
>>30430921
Kek, have your (You)s'.

>>30430938
The cut in the forum link (which isn't a legitimate source) is completely different than the picture you claim is belarussian.

Fuck off. You're a disgrace.

>>30430921
>retarded Gook autist.
How much do you bet it's another of his alt names/trips?

>>30430921
Annnnd it's shitposter.

>>30430951
First point here applies to you to.
>>30430910


Wow, it's almost like everyone who thinks you mentally ill church shooters are obnoxious is actually multiple people.

>>30430951
I'm just more confused about what they're on about with the "You're as bad as the gook autist." and "How much do you bet it's another one of this alt names/trips?"

I thought I was the only gook autist.

>>30430938
>>30430951

Are those actually supposed to be arguments for one of your retarded tripshits disseminating false and bad information as fact?

You endorse that?

You people and these threads have zero legitimacy.

>>30430971

I guess the stink of shit attracts the same class of insect.

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>>30430976
>>30430969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbBX6aEzEz8

>>30430971
Newfags are below children. They should neither be seen nor heard.

>>30430976
kek. You know you're in a bad spot when simple facts can tear down anything you autistically create or claim.

Hasn't this always been the case with anything these jokes cooked up?

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On the way right now:
>Russian air force TTsKO winter jacket
>Yugo blue M89 police jacket

>>30430357
I might grab your saudi M65 off you in the next few weeks unless you're willing to sell that. Just need to save after renting a mailbox for 4 months.

>>30429469
I'll give you $100 for the set.

>>30431023

The only ones that seems to do through and diligent research and Jap and Korea tripshits. The rest are a joke.

>>30431040

>I'll give you $100 for the set.

Not a bad deal, because it looks like some super early Flora prototype, which is basically 90 degree flipped and enlarged VSR.

Why doesn't Camo anon own it?

Nobody in my town is selling a Mosin-Nagant so I am thinking of ordering online. How bad an idea is this?

>>30431147
>asking the nogunz thread

Well I guess if you're looking for a nagant then you're probably nogunz right now, but you definitely won't find any useful info here.

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>>30430833
>didn't have one at hand
>it's actually very loose compared to how we had to tighten them innamilitary (pic related)
>maybe

>>30431172

I just jumped in because I saw Milsurp. I will ask elsewhere, thanks.

>>30431172
Says the no guns faggot.

>>30431147
You're better off finding a gun show.

>>30431147
If you can find one under $200.
They were loved cause they were cheap. Not so much anymore.

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>>30431201
>You're better off finding a gun show.
True.

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>>30431147
Not the worst idea. I'd say try your local gun show but they've been jewing people recently at mine.

>>30431196
They've literally been asking $275 for shit condition 91/30s where I live.

>>30431078
What size is it?

>>30431078
Because I got it from him. I traded a French lizard camo smock for some things of his which were pretty good like that Russian uniform, a Serbian blue tiger winter set w/ vest, Slovenian camo set with jacket and cap, and a lightweight CADPAT jacket.

>>30431245

I just worry about ordering online and getting a shitty trigger or pitted bore since I cant check it out beforehand. There are a few places that have mostly positive reviews on ordering them.

>>30431245
Its a 50-4, I wear medium and it was a bit tight.

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>>30431172
privet tobarish :DD

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>>30431292
All that just for the french smock? Holy shit

>>30431306
Hmm, I wear a 50-5 so it might be a bit short but I'm still interested.

>>30431378
Yep, I'd say it was a good deal. It was going to add in a Bulgarian splinter set but I told him there was some rust on a buckle and the drainage holes.
But I'll have to research this Russian before I take your offer though.

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>>30429469
>>30430375
Well I found an old of thread where Camo Anon posted the same set I have.
http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t478-flora-pattern-items

>>30429462
TTSKO is a post Soviet Russian work uniform.

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Last chance before this goes on ebay, 75 bucks and its yours.
36" chest

>>30432071
It won't even go for that much on eBay.

Fuck off.

>>30432099
Last one sold for 80 plus shipping nerd.

>>30432099
Also all the other cadpat listed right now is crap condition from canada for $95 +

Anyone have Belgian brushstroke they are willing to part with?

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>>30432164
I have these. and a moon and balls smock.

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>>30432222

>>30432164
>>30432222
Should have mentioned I was interested in jackets and smocks first
>>30432271
what size is the smock?

>>30432287
I have a hood

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>>30432287
Here's the tag. I'd say is a med/small

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>>30431693
Thanks famtasm.

>>30432287
>>30432310
Also its missing the crotch flap

>>30432345

That's pretty rough.

>>30432416
That's why I'm selling it.

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>>30424934
Wanted to give you my spare shirt (pic related for free, but I believe I reached the 10kg. At least, my weight scale said so, the one at DHL said 9,4 kg.

>>30424783
Keep in mind in Euroland we write dd/mm/yyyy otherwise you'd almost think it's expired.

Is a CADPAT jacket for $130 good? As people stated earlier most are crap condition from Canada.

>>30432481
I'll sell you my cadpat jacket for $120 :^)

>>30432478
Next time bro.
They're delish. I'd eat that shit even if it was expired lol

>>30432503
Im looking for one in good condition tho. :^/

>>30430471
Are you 100% sure yours isn't m65 as well.

>>30432587
Good luck. Aren't many left around.

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>>30432608
Well..you've got me there. Can't actually tell from the pictures so far. No white edges around the pattern though that's for sure.

>>30432345
What's your price?

>>30432742
asking 40

>>30432712
Even if it were a m65 cut, I think it's legit and then finally we solved the mystery of what cut it is.

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>>30432864
I still dont think they'd make it in an m65 cut,

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>>30432877

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>>30432877
The top pockets look to be a single popper, but the flap is pointed and the popper is expose.

>>30432953
>dat cigarette

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>>30432966
Well he is in a serbian city center marketplace.

Anyone;s guess how this is gonna turn out.

>>30432981
I bet it's gonna smell like 20+ years of constant chain smoking when you get it

Is anybody selling a Canadian OD green jacket? I think they're pretty neat.

>>30432996
You're right. I'll hand wash it because it'll fucking reek.

Looks pretty beat up, but I'll probably give it to the guy who did the hats and get some stitching work done.

>>30432981
>>30432953

Wait, I haven't been in these threads in a while but you atually got the serby market dude to sell his jacket to you?

What an age to be alive.

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WZ.93 pants came in

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>>30433067
Only took me one year, four months.

Still waiting to hear back about the price. Basically my guy mentioned 20,000din, but because of the state of it I'm starting at 15,000 and we'll see if he takes it or not.

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>>30433086
Also I'm assuming the liner is original, because there are buttons inside for it.

>>30433086
>>30433130

Pretty crazy that the old man actually gave in and sold the damn thing.

anyone know a good place to get a gorka for cheap?

>>30433164
It's an old beat up jacket to him, gift from a friend in the military.

>>30433172
Avito.ru

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Just realized how much the ultra-obscure Estonian border guard uniform borrows from Finland.

>camo pattern is essentially m/62 with different shapes
>cap is modeled after the Finnish "Blood scoop" and not so much the German M-43
>early border guard patch is an outright copy of the Finnish one, just with a pissed-off lynx instead of a bear

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Going through my surp closet I found my norgie airforce shirt I forgot how much I like the pattern.

>>30433002
Which variant are you looking for?

>>30431306
Yeah I know that feel usually a medium as well but for slav stuff I go 52-4 to 54-4.

>>30433285
Maybe the one with the corduroy collar, but if not one of those I guess a lightweight one.

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>>30432712
The snap buttons are weird, they usually used velcro everywhere they could.

>>30433285
I have two I'm trying to sell, I ordered a US 42 they came in like extra small. The material also sucks.

>>30432896
What the hell is that?

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I know dickall about ALICE gear, but I have some of it laying around with my ERDL and M81 so I figure I'll use it for running a 1911 through low level IDPA or something. Quick tips?

>>30433086
Your buyer was rather convincing

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Just picked this up today. Anyone able to identify the bottom patch?

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>>30434219
Well 20,000 is about half what I'd pay, but the guy is smart at least. He deserves a reward, but I'm not sure what yet.

>>30434247
Woo what the heck is that?

>>30434247
>Night BDU
Dude, that's just a basic bitch desert DPM shirt dyed black.
The dye job makes it hard to tell what the tactical recognition flash (read: patch) is, but it might be Corps of Royal Engineers.

>>30434312
>>30434320
The place I found it just had it labeled as British Night Camo BDU. Other than that I'm not really sure what exactly it is. But it caught my eye and was only $3 so I grabbed it.

>>30434478
Swisslink got a whole bunch of dyed desert dpm a couple months ago.

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Are these actual issue pants? I got them along side a 50s OD shirt at an estate sale but these have a bit different color to them and I have never seen these type of pants before.

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>>30434247

Royal Engineers

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>>30436484

Yours is in much nicer condition.

>>30434878
Looks like an old pair of carpenter pants to me.

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>>30432712
Well, based off where you got it, I don't know how it could be fake.

>>30437183
Yeah, that would be one very, very elaborate long con.

>>30432896
what is that? multikarst?

>>30437493
Pretty much.

>>30437570
is that an actual pattern used by Serbia?

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>>30437585
it was experimental, just like karst. As was this.

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>>30437605
Damn and here I was thinking that Karst was the balkanshit holy grail.

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>>30437699
NAH BRUH. Karst is the common one.

>>30437605
>>30437846
So did you and Telny have to acquire and reproduce Karst before the rarer patterns showed themselves? Like some kind of mystic lock on their knowledge that only opens once you've proven yourself worthy to hold said knowledge?

>camo collector RPG when?

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Hmm. So how rare is legit German WW2 camo? Not zeltbahns.

>>30437906
Not as rare as you'd think. But HIGHLY sought after,

>>30424526
Yesss i just got me a completely green ERDL jacket, Med-Long minty fresh for $45. Good deal?

>>30438088
That's a bit expensive. But possibly worth it for a brand new one.

>>30428810
>That helmet cover
Lol not period correct and real ERDL covers are extremely hard to come by from what i've heard.

>>30433808
Gross, get some M56 and then you'll be with the big boys.

>>30438110
How about $25 for 1968 green dom ERDL Pantalones

>>30438229
That's more like it.

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>>30438229

Nice

>>30438292
>size is XSmall-XShort

>>30438194
>M56
Explain, most of what I have is what my grandfather passed down. He was Air Force base patrol or some shit like that so I'm interested in restoring the set to former glory.

>>30438676
>or some shit like that
You should find out what he did before you think about anything else.

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>>30438676

This is a period accurate set of M1956 web gear. The belt you have is a LC-3 model, not introduced until the late 80's.

>>30434878
Don't take my word for it, but those don't look like issued pants to me.

>>30438719
I would but he's dead and the webpage that contained all his memoirs lost its server hosting. There is literally no way for me to find out because he almost never talked about what he did. From what I could gather years ago when I did get a chance to see his page, he was the Air Force version of security and was at a major air base right at the beginning of the Tet Offensive. Other than that I don't recall anything

>>30438788
How do I tell the difference in belts? He left the uniform but that was it, so I've been piecing stuff together. At least the belt was only 7 bucks...

>>30439008
Does no one in your family know anything about him?

>>30439050
Not really, my family is weird and everyone stays in contact but is also in a way estranged from each other? I'm not sure, it's definitely not normal though. Growing up I could probably count the number of times I'd seen him and remembered it on one hand. I have better memories clearing out his apartment than I do of him, fuck I never even had his phone number. Same with my grandmother, yet when they each died I found out they both lived within something like 10 miles of me. I'm gonna try to get the server back for his web page but I doubt anything will come of it, so until then all I have is whatever I remember when I dug through his web page

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>>30439008

The buckle is the main identifying part, the M56 belts were canvas with a notch/divot style closure, and all the hardware is brass.

The two magazine pouches and the belt in the top left here are M56.

>>30439108
Is there any real identifiers besides the buckles? Or is that really all I've got unless I can feel it up in person or it has a stamp?

>>30439159
A popular belt at the time was also the m44 belt i think is what it is called. Has a brass snap button on the left side for pistol mag pouches. Only adjusts from the right to the left. Post pic of gear and uniform and any patches he had, will help us put together what he wouldve worn.

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>>30439159

The buckles are the real identifiers.

Stamps on webbing never last long unless it sat in storage its whole life, even then when it is there it's very hard to read.

Compare to this LC-2 belt, nylon with a plastic buckle. Easy to see the difference.

Whats your worst expirience w/ milsurp? I bought a acu jacket with bulletholes.

>>30438466
Small long which fits perfect since i have long legs ya dig

>>30439241
I bought a 1976 nylon pistol belt once and the nylon was completely red. Dunno why, probably rust but its wasnt orange at all...some '67 '69 7.62 and .30 stripper clip bandoliers had red splattered over them which is really concerning.

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Reminder that Blurred Edge is the patrician's choice of Waffen SS camo patterns. Just steer clear of SMW.

>>30439214
Only identifying thing on the uniform, seems strange to me that it didn't even have a name tape or pretty much anything. But from what I understand ERDL wasn't issue and was usually bought and just sort of accepted for use, so if I had to guess it must have been bought there and half assed?

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>>30439214
Woops, pic

>>30439377
From my understanding not too many guys in the field put their names or branch on their uniform. I heard that ERDL was issued late war. Idk really about the AirForce but i rarely see guys in pictures with their name on their jacket.

>>30439425
Makes sense, it has the U.S Air Force tape at the front and this patch on the left shoulder. It also came with a cap that's really fucking small for some reason, and forever folded down the middle to the point that it's impossible to get straight without tons of work

>>30439425
Does that jacket have a lot of room around the waist for you? Im a pretty skinny guy but even a small is kinda eh.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, thought I'd ask since you guys seem to be knowledgeable.

Are there any books/websites documenting pivotal/unique innovations in military uniforms? Maybe even just the design rationale behind them rather than specific innovations, for example angling a zipper a certain way for easier access.

>>30438148

I was under the impression that ERDL covers did see limited use by Marines.

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>>30440881

>>30440881

They look like some ultra-limited special edition Air Jordans ghetto goblins kill one another over, lel.

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>>30440895
They're limited, that's for sure.

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>tfw I'll never have one of those British-derived smocks the local SOF boys wear

where can I buy italian vegetato camo in euope?
(besides in italy) ..

>>30422562
Had both, kept the modox one, only thing wrong with the modox one is the buttons are small style Canadian ones other than that they are decent. Modox takes ages sowing theirs tho.

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>not owning a Maska-1...

>>30441417
>sideways duh

where do i cop chinese camo ..

any e..bay..?

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>>30441493
I'll save you the trouble.
pic related $75

>>30440676
Yes the Marines did use them during the war but very late. The embassy guards in 1975 had them.

>>30438148
ERDL covers hard to come by? Hell I must have 3 right now.

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>>30441417
If i could, I'd get this. $1500.

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Does anyone have any French WW2 stuff?

>>30441932

>not just buying a sheet of quarter inch steel and making a crappy shield you'll never use out of it

>>30442396
I have some WW1 French stuff

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>>30443293

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>>30442396
>he thinks the french uniforms are cool

>>30443361
>>30443293
I'm trying not to regret selling it now lol

>>30441417
Real or replica?

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>>30443427
I've been trying to get one for a while.

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>>30443551

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Anyone likes latpat? This is our winter/early spring/late autumn version. We have a summer one with green elements aswell.

>>30443587
GIB. PLS. Can you get us cheap latpat?

>>30443551
>>30443574

C'mon fambula, open that sleeve pocket.

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>>30443574
Pocket contents.

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>>30443602

>>30443599

We have strict regulations on handing back issued cammies. Sometimes they surface on ebay for stupid high prices in shit condition and that's just because they are probably stolen or somehow slipped through the paperwork in returnal of issued gear.

So without personal contacts in the army it's a bretty much no for cheap ones.

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>>30443665
The fleeces are stylin' at least.

>>30443422
>wanting to see the same wheraboo shit that gets posted every day

Repetitive actions are a hallmark of autism.

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>>30443678
But I'm not sure about the wisdom of having a desert pattern as your core camouflage...in a northern European country.

>>30443693
That isn't Wehrmacht.

If you wish to insult the guy at least get it right.

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>>30443698
Even with the green it;s very brown.

>>30443706
Still worshipped by autistic wheraboos.

>>30443665
:(

>>30443708
I saw this being sold on ebay for the cheap. I havent personally tested the green ones yet, since they are new and ought to be issued next month. The cammies were designed for Afghanistan when we had woodland camo. And then the whole force switched to the latpat. Sometimes it works wonders in dry grass and fall. Winter is passable too, but for summer it is quite bad yeah, and during the night time in full moon you shine like a ghost. I will see to how well the new multi-latpat will work in the summer weather.

>>30443767
Is it still worth me making items in it if it'll be adopted soon?

>>30443693
Shitposter, we always wondered whether you were an autist. Have you checked yourself?

Also go check paranoia on Wikipedia.

Greetings,

Senator D. Feinstein