Ask a swissfag anything >pic related : a .22 K31

>>30381637
are you bloke on the range?

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What's your favorite Shotgun.

>>30381637

They made trainer versions of the K31 in .22? Nigger wut.

>.22 k31

you ignorant bastard. That's a K1911 (long bolt and bakelite bolt handle) cadet version.

>>30381637

Where can I buy a .22 version of the K31? How many rounds does a magazine hold? Does it feed reliably?

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>>30381644
What ?

>>30381660
Haven't shot many of them, but I did like the 870 and the Sensied SFK1

>>30381671
Yeah, a lot of them too, you always find some in your LGS or gun shows here

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>>30381683
Maybe, I'm not an expert, I just thought that in was too short to be a 11

>>30381686
In Switzerland ? Everywhere.
The mag is useless here, it's a single shot rifle

>>30381708
>Sensied SFK1
Never heard of it. How's it preform in comparison to the 870?

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>>30381744
pic related, it's one of them
I preferred the 870, the action was smoother ans the trigger a little better

>>30381731

Unfortunate.

>>30381708
how much are k31 mags there?

>>30381637
Did you take your Sig home after your military service?

>>30381637
.22 karabiner
Desire. There are m89 conversions sometimes, but they're often expensive.

Should I buy a K 31 with a slightly cracked stock?

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>>30381808
Last time I checked, I found some for 50 CHF IIRC

>>30381810
Don't get me started on this.
I was in the military as infantry/pirhana driver but I am a sleepwalker, and that's a no-go in the swiss army. They figured it out and I was evicted from the Army, so no free full auto 550 for me...

>>30381818
Not him but how much and how bad is the crack? if you can repair it, go for it but K31 stocks are unobtanium in the states.

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>>30381865
Shit anon, I'm so sorry, that's like a /k/ommando's worst nightmare right there.

>>30381865
damn that is nearly the same price as here, when they turn up. so you know of any websites that might be willing to deal with a yank for a bulk sale at reduced price?

>>30381776
Neat. Thanks for replying.

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>>30381818
If it's not that bad, go for it i'd say
Where do you live ?

>>30381885
Yeah true, I'm still in anger for that

>>30381886
Can't tell you, try the most "famous" gun store here : like Lagardere and Dufaux

>>30381637
What are gun laws really like over there, all the non-Swiss anons act like it's the promise land but I always take that with a grain of salt considering none of them live there.

>>30381637
>a .22 K31
wjhy

>>30381917
how cheap is older euro milsurp like Webleys?

>>30381935
It's actually pretty good, you can buy anything you want with a shall-issue type of permit (Basically a background check and stuff like that)
We can get full autos too, but the real bumer is that we can't carry guns, no CC or CCW for us

>>30381942
We have to much of them here, so why not ?

>>30381972
I'm assuming you can open carry if transporting to a range or something, can you shoot innawoods or is it range only?

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>>30381958
I can find some Webley MK VI in a very good shape for 550 CHF, Hand nugget for 300 CHF, Nugget for 250 CHF

>>30381995
Yeah, but only if it's unloaded and you better be OC a Ordonance rifle (550, 510, K31) or the police will ask you some serious questions
And it's only innarange

>>30382027
Interesting, certainly not as god-tier as /k/ likes to go on about but still pretty good compared to most of Europe and even better than 'Murika in some regards.
You win some, you lose some I guess.

>>30382073
Yeah exactly, it's pretty good for EU standards, but with this new project of them, we might get to a UK level of gun-owning everywhere in Europe

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Other swiss here. Thought about buying a pistol at some point, for sports and Feldschiessen and such. Which one should I get? I think the P210 is neat, but really expensive...

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>>30382139
For officials shootings you don't have much choices, but the P210 is a very nice gun, worth the price. You can find some used ones for 1000CHF or so

>>30382176
Thanks.
What about the P220/Pistole 75? Those are usually cheaper.

>>30382176
Oh and is there a particular bad P210-x?

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>>30382209
Yeah they're cool too, a little bit less accurate but still nice
If you can found one not too beat up, go for it, they're good

>>30381871
>>30381917

In the US. The seller made it seem cosmetic over the phone, how bad does it have to be before it makes it a no go? Will it affect the accuracy?

I can into woodcarving, so I'm confident I could make a new barrel, but I don't know if doing so is more a gunsmithing project than a woodworking one.

>>30382176
>don't have much choices
You can shoot with any 9mm and up to .45 in a federal range

>>30382244
Not the anon but another swiss.

It's not about the crack but about the price. Here you can find K31 in near perfect condition for 100$. So question is are you okay to put x times more money than that for a cracked one?

>>30382232
Not to my knowledge, just try to avoid the new ones, made in Germany (they are a lot more expensive)

>>30382244
I don't really know, the best thing is to go see the thing, if it seems ok just buy it, I don't thing it will affect accuracy at all

>>30382245
True, but for official contests you have to shoot an ordonance gun

>>30382273
The price has gone up in the US, around $350 if you can even find them in stock, resellers are asking for $450. As long as I can shoot it, I'll be happy.

>>30382284
Probably. I've not gotten myself in pistol contests yet because I don't have the money for a pistol but I'm into 300m contests since 6 years now.

I'm passing my shooting instructor certificate in like 3 months or so

>>30381972
Well we can CC/CCW but the requirements are off the charts even though the tests are so easy a 10 years old could pass them.

Basically you have to be in constant fear for you life trough threats to even pretend to it

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>>30382357
Yeah, it's really really hard to get, I don't know anyone who has one, except for some security agent and LEO

>>30382385
Even the policemen can't get it anymore. They only have a temporary one. At the very moment they're off duty it's null and void. There was a time when a police officer was just given a CCW permit because of his training

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>>30382431
Really ? I guess it depend on the canton then : every LEO I know here (GE) can carry off duty

>>30382284
Yeah, I'm going to do this I think.