/meg/- Military Enlistment General

Which SOF is seeing the most action these days?

What marine mos's don't require security clearance? I'd like to keep my options open incase the scummy shit I did when I was younger keeps me from getting one. They typical
>blazed it
>got in a few fights but never arrested
>looked down on most of family because of the above and wasn't born into the rich portion of it like they were.

>>30362081

Special Tactics always sees the most shit, but you'll never hear anyone acknowledge it.

>>30361577
Nice, you have the contract yet?
>>30361606
Go Navy man
>>30361932
Navy vet here, Diver is an amazing rate with even better opportunities once you are out. Its hard though man so you better be ready.

Need advice asap

Give me the red pill on 19K, 88M, 19D and 74D
The recruiters made these sound so sweet but what's the war time/peace time reality

>>30362483
No sir, Ive got another year before I can join (financial reasons), and I want to make sure I give myself enough time to train my feet and knees so I dont fuck anything up during SFAS or the Qcourse and get med dropped

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>>30361877
Does anyone know if the Navy is open to prior service Army?

Age 28, Active as 19k (Tanker) and was with an MP reserve unit. Full contract finished, completely out.

>>30363078

Do actual tankers wear tanker boots? Because them shits is comfy.

>>30363226
Yup, still wear them at work, even in this heat.

>>30362541
>Recruiters made 74D sound sweet.
You may be beyond help.

>19K
Do this.
Even if you NEVER deploy, you can tell stories for the rest of your life. How many people can say they got paid to crew a tank?

>>30362889
I hear you, makes sense. Best of luck cause im in the same boat. Going for a contract right around the new fiscal year.
>>30363078
To the best of my knowledge it is. You sep with a RE1? No medical conditions? You will most likely need to apply/qualify for an undermanned rate.

I want to join.
27 y/o
Computer Engineering graduate.
Any suggestions?

>>30363259
Well one of the recruiters is Chem corps is why

19K is very interesting to me and I'm passionate about tanks and tracked vehicles but keeping other options available

>>30363302
Thought about a job/rate/mos?
Thought about a branch?
You gotta do some leg work on your own first man.

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>>30363260
Yup, no medical, RE1 from active, and reserve. What's under manned atm? Anything that is half way interesting. I had a very high asvab and gt. I'm guessing i'll have to retake.

>>30363245

I bought mine for work (paramedic) and because they were specifically designed for people who spend hours and days wearing boots inside vehicles. And they're pretty impressive.

>>30363302
Don't go in as enlisted. Just don't. Don't take the bait.

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>>30363345

At work now, forgot the pic.

>>30363323
im researching the links on the OP
what i've seen up until this point, my background seems to fit in the air force, I kind of get there is a similar job on every branch.
I'll keep looking.

>>30363345
This genuinely made me angry, and I had to stop myself even now. I remember some dumbass getting his straps cut when we first got to our unit, and he went out an bought them. (You have to qualify as a crew to wear them)

I really don't care though, I'm glad you enjoy them. It's just strange how the tribalism still takes hold.

Which branch has the highest OCS acceptance rate?

>>30363342
You can probably guess, all the hard shit.
Seals
Nuke
CTN
Stuff like that. You could probably dig around and find CREO ratings.
Link might help.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navy/a/creolist.htm
>>30363379
Its well known air force has the best quality of life and is the easiest but ive heard advancement is tough cause its so cushy so no one gets out.

>>30363365
Also nice condition for old school.

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>>30363384

It's a boot. I've worn all kinds over the years, from engineers to paratroopers to those fucked up nylon jungle boots. I've never once tried to claim status in or emulate a member of any armed forces. But I need boots for this job and the military is pretty much the known universe's best source for boot technology.

Tanker boots were intended to be comfortable for wear in a vehicle for hours or days. I work 48 hour shifts. I've been in these for 16 hours now. Those fuck-awful tactical abominations would have been smelling like the inside of a yeti's pussy after 8.

> mfw this shit starts an EMS trend and 50 years from now, old tankers are having strokes when people refer to the Corcoran 5407 as "Medic Boots"

tips on becoming a 0311?

>>30363540
You go to recruiter and ask for an Infantry contract. It's that damn simple.

>>30363562
Is this bait? Are you retarded?

>>30363314
stay the fuck away from chemical. All you will do is inventory gas masks and occasionally run a CS chamber if you're lucky. It also does absolutely nothing for you in the civilian world. If you're going to get a job that does nothing for you in the civilian world, get one that involves killing things.

>>30363617
Ok, tell me how it's done sport.

>>30363650
It doesnt work that way in the marines faggot. Dont ever post here again cause clearly youve never served and have no idea what you are talking about.

Airforce here. Fuck all you fat neckbeards

>>30363667
Lel. Did you ever think perhaps I answered your question because I was an 0311...

And you respond like a little know it all bitch, who's wrong. I'm not gonna give you advice now, and I don't think anyone else should either.

>>30363711
>Did you ever think perhaps I answered your question because I was an 0311
No, you arent cause if you were youd know you dont get 0311 like that poser.
> I'm not gonna give you advice now
Obviously im not the one who asked the question you retard.
Hmmm...well you are both a faggot and a moron, so maybe youre a marine after all.
Drop dead sport

>>30363746
>It doesn't work like that?

Tell me how you think it works?

>>30363529
I wasn't infer you were trying to infer status. I was just telling you how strange it is that to this day I have that reaction. It's like embedded in my brain. Not from civs wearing them, but just the "earning them" aspect.

>>30363760
>>30363746
>>30363711
>>30363667
>>30363650
>>30363617
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>>30363540
these posts were all me

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>>30363760
>Tell me how you think it works?
This IS how faggot
>Active duty contracts can only pick their job's field and you will be placed into a job within that field at a later date.

>Example: If you go active duty you can only pick the 03xx MOS field and while in infantry school you may or may not be allowed to pick your exact job within the 03xx MOS field.

Stop posting here

>>30363793
>these posts were all me
They werent
Lost of posers and faggots here tonight

>>30363781

Ah. Got it.

Yeah, with my line of work it's the exact opposite. The new guys always have ten tons of shit on them and then over the years they just stop giving a fuck. It's like you lose 5% of the fucks you gave starting out per year. When you start, you carry a Leatherman, a knife, trauma shears and cargo pockets full of random medicrap like IV sets and cannulas. And of course, everything is shiny and starched. After 20 years, you would probably run calls in boots and boxers with a prison shank taped to your chest. It's like the mark of an experienced medic is to carry a minimum of crap.

>>30363811
Stop being a fucking faggot. Yeah no shit Sherlock. That's why I said Infantry contract. As in it guarantees Infantry. MOS is in SOI ITB and you get to volunteer. You'll either be an 0311, 0331, 0341, or 0351.

Spare me that 03xx bullshit. Shit like 0313 LAV crewman is fucking combat arms shit and pog and goes to MCT.

You stop posting here, especially about shit you don't know.

>>30363302

If you want to serve your country and use your degree to its fullest, get a government civilian job.

>>30363855
You said
>You go to recruiter and ask for an Infantry contract. It's that damn simple.

Its not that damn simple clearly you fucking moron. It seems simple to you but clearly it isnt to the guy who asked the original question. You are giving bad advice. Again never post here again.

>>30363894
It's pretty simple. I told him the first step. But sure will. Remember when no one answers questions any longer, you can thank this faggot.

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>>30363918
>I told him the first step
All you said was talk to a recruiter.
WOW howd you figure that one out???
You mean to tell me the first step is talking to a recruiter??? Genius!!! Give this man a 4chan gold pass for his contributions to the thread!!!

How many times do i have to make you look stupid before youll stop posting?

Does anyone know anything about Fort Richardson in Anchorage? I'm finishing ait in 6 weeks or so and that's where I'm being stationed.

Really excited to go to Alaska.

>>30364124
Supposed to be legit if you are an outdoorsy type.

Cons of enlisting in the Marine Corps?

>>30362541
>>30362541
>>30362541

>>30364637

Who the fuck becomes SEAL officers?

Star quarterbacks??

>>30362541
Uncle is an 88m reservist deployed to Iraq I believe. Met another 88m as well. You're a truck driver, the other guys like you, as far as I know 88mikes are pretty far king chill. Knew this guy who was an 88m who just commissioned active duty transpo.

88mikes are just truckers, cool guys but not a very cool job. Though I'm sure you will meet some 88mikes who are dumb as bricks. The 3 88mikes I know are chillooking as fok.

>>30365032
Doesn't seem like normal dudes who like to work out and run on occasion can even compete.

>Men with the best chance of being selected have proven leadership, strong language and/or cultural expertise, superior academic performance in challenging majors and have succeeded in competitive sports. Applicants must also have highly competitive Physical Screening Test scores.

Taken from
http://navyseals.com/buds/become-a-seal-officer/

>>30365055
Correction

The new 2lt deployed to Iraq when he was in the guard. Uncle went to afghanistan.

>>30362541
Sorry for spamming, but I also knew a SFC who is a 19d and jump master. They're "not infantry" as far as I can gather. Peace time on the guard/reserve side they're probably like any other unit. Can't speak for active.

>>30363391
Cbrn? Because no one wants to commission cbrn? Or do you mean navy, marines, and army?

>>30364124
It's absolutely terrible. You may try not to kill yourself but the odds are stacked against you...

>>30361877
Please give me advice for basic. I'm practically shitting myself with the fear and excitement

>>30365602
Shut your mouth and do what you're told. It'll be over before you know and no one in the real world cares about basic because they all went through the same shit you're about to.

>>30365739
How do you phrase questions or statements if you MUST say more than "Yes, drill sergeant" "No, drill sergeant"?
Do I just end every sentence with drill sergeant/sir?

As in "Yes, sir. This is the gear I was issued. They told me to let somebody here know it was SNAFU. I don't know who Phillips is but those are his cigarettes, sir."

>>30365802

Yes, that's exactly how it works and you're overthinking it.

Just play the game. You're going to fuck it up sometimes and get yelled at, but that's just part of the game too.

>>30365103
between branches

How's life as an 11b? I'm aware of the unfortunate reality that during peacetime I'd be an 11J instead

>>30362255
Bumping for halp

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>tfw can't join because of bullshit "mental health" reasons

Fuck you, I would have been a great soldier. I love how one voluntary stay in a fucking mental hospital for mimor reasons can literally ruin your life and will follow you everywhere.

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>>30361877
Daily Reminder To Never Enlist As:
>Military Police
>Security Forces
>Master-at-Arms

>>30363855
mortarman? that seems out of place and totally different than the other 3 possible infantry mos. out of 100 recruits how any would become mortarman?

>>30369122
meant to say how many not how any

Any prior service ever try to re-enlist after a chapter 5-17 discharge? Spent 2 years in, some shit happened, got discharged due to depression. I figure that I'd need a waiver, and a note from a psych or some shit, saying I've sought treatment, and I'm good to go.

>>30363529
Why would you wear jump boots for work? We only wear those shits in dress uniform

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>>30367986
Why? Is it that bad?

>>30369223
I assume that much like regular police you'll spend 99% of your time dealing with drunk idiots, fixing stupid screw ups, being expected to take responsibility for everything, and filling out lots of paperwork. And nobody will like you because you're the man.

Will I get pussy as a 5'6 manlet in the navy? Has anyone here been to Japan?

>>30369122
~75% become 0311's, ~25% become weapons. That's in a typical Infantry company of 3 line platoons and a weapons platoon. So 8-9 out of your 100 scenario, give or take needs of the corps. Could be less, could be much higher.

Line platoons typically have 3 squads. That's how weapons kinda run it also. A squad of mortars, MGers, and assault men.

Since you ask about mortars it is very common for them to break away and do their own thing.

>>30370078
Yeah youre not going to japan.
Too many manlet navy guys have raped jap girls, we're out of there

>>30370078
>partying and drinking in japan
Have I got news for you my friend

>>30370078
>Will I get pussy as a 5'6 manlet in the navy?
Faggot
>>30370306
>>30370351
You im not that guy but can you explain this? Whats changed in the few years ive been out? I was in Yoko in 2012 and sasebo 2013 and things were fine.

>>30370385
A chick got trashed and drunk drove down the wrong lane. Now nobody gets to drink.

Also the Japanese are protesting about us being there again because there was a rape.

Just got back from the recruiter's office. Looking at cryptological linguist or jet engine mechanic (forget the specific title, know it has the word engineer in it). The airborne variant of linguist sounds pretty awesome, but I can't get in since I'm color blind.

>>30370469
>Now nobody gets to drink.
IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?!?!?!
Drinking was the best part about being there. Chu-his non stop. Bro that sucks so bad i generally feel bad for you.

>>30370509
>aircraft engine mechanic
Avionics or bust, unless you genuinely enjoy the idea of guaranteed cancer from all the shit you touch

>>30370630
The driver was a black woman. They'd rather punish the whole branch than reprimand a black woman.

>>30370509
Linguist is good, you'll have a blast at DLI. When I was there it was basically college but you get a paycheck.

>>30363811

Nice... morons passing along the "only reservists can choose their job in the Marines" meme.

Never change, /meg/.

>>30371036
you get to pick a field such as 03xx but you CANNOT have 0311 written on your contract.

>prove me wrong faggot

I applied to the air force, needed a waiver(personality disorder) went to see a consult and was declined. Is there any way for me to join the military

>>30370249
thanks for the detailed answer. what is the reason for mortarmen being recruited out of the infantry pool instead of the artillery recruit pool?

So what is 35M like?

>>30371351
should of kept your mouth shut

>>30367986
Actually MP and MA are fine and generally not full of retards. Security Forces is where the Air Force send it's retards. They think they are operators but they pretty much just guard air fields and checks ID's at chow halls. Also, it is scientifically proven that the longer you stay at Minot as Security Forces, the more retarded you actually are. Anyone who is there more than 3 years is certifiably retarded and a waste of skin.

>>30371036
Holy fuck, these salty marines.
Having to sign yourself away BEFORE you pick from a limited poo of options is NOT the same as reserving your slot from the beginning with the army.

>>30371458
AIT will set impossibly high expectations of cool shit that you will never do because no one is deploying.

>>30371458
Learn how to make a powerpoint slide and copy and paste weather info.

Guys out of everything ill be doing in the future in the Army I'm most worried about the ASVAB. I'm ABSOLUTE SHIT at math. Like borderline retarded at math. I'm normal at English and reading, average at electronics, God tier at mechanics and tool. What do? If I get great scores at everything but math will I still most likely pass?

>>30372167
You're thinking F. Mikes don't do powerpoint/weather.

>>30372172

It's High School math. Not even "smart guy who took Calc in High School", just the shitty Algebra that you have to pass to even graduate.

If you're worried about it, study. KhanAcademy or ASVAB for Dummies are popular recommendations.

>>30370914
What was your actual deployment like? From what I was told it sounds like mainly office work.

>>30364124
I'm here right now senpai in 4/25th. What's your mos, what do you want to know

>>30372227
>KhanAcademy

Yes lad.

>>30372227
I understand that but will I pass the asvab if I get great scores in everything but math

>>30372234
It depends, if you're Army or Marines in a tactical unit you might actually go outside the wire.

>>30371770
>They think they are operators but they pretty much just guard air fields and checks ID's at chow halls.

We have these cunts in the UK. We call them the RAF Regiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO9CbsiWqzQ

>>30370830
Wow man im so sorry to hear that. Can you still drink on base?
>>30371283
>>30371897
These anons get it
>>30371036
What you are pretending you can do it what the navy is actually like. Your rate is spelled out no if ands or buts. The marines only choose their field. Drop dead.

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>>30361877

Ok, faggots.

I want to join the army for an all-source/signals intelligence MOS.

I have an AAS degree in network security, and CCNA in addition to CompTIA+ certifications.

My question is... should I enlist, or go to my Uni to complete my education in information management and go into ROTC?

>>30372209
My bad. I still never learned what everything changed to after 96/97/98 became 35.

>>30372540
Do you have any idea if youd rather be in for 4 or go career?

>>30372540
Go enlisted and then go warrant officer from there if you actually like doing your job. As a regular commissioned officer you will never do that type of actual work.

Any advice for an ROTC cadet interested in becoming a Ranger officer? I realize this is an enlistment thread, but I might as well try. Currently in my second year of college, and I am pursuing a computer engineering degree.

>>30372605
>>30372607

Well, eventually I'd like to work in the civil service.

I'd consider a career, but given how bad the military treats junior officers, I'm not about to stomach the smell of a sphincter or the administration of fellatio.

>>30372540
Always commission over enlist. Only enlist if you wanna do cool guy stuff.

I knew 2 Intel officers. One is jacked and the other is super awkard. Also knew a guy who recently commissioned infantry and got assigned to an infantry unit as like an s-3 or Intel guy.

On the officer side if you're with a reserve/guard unit Intel could be office bullshit. Enlisting as a 35f will earn you the PowerPoint tab however.

>>30372540

Why the fuck are you aiming for all-source/SIGINT if you're a NetSec guy?

Cyber is what you want. 35Q/17C in the Army, CTN in the Navy, 1B4 in the Air Force. Intel is pretty chill, but it isn't what you actually want with that kind of experience/education.

>>30372766
>CTN in the Navy
God tier rate.
Fast as fuck advancement.
Bonuses.
Sweet Intel Bases.

>>30372676
Which branch should I enlist to? Which would be easiest to get into?

>>30373611
>>30372676
fuck meant commission into for OCS

>>30373611
>Random person on Internet, decide the future of my life

>>30373637
Well someone has to. I'm also looking at nupoc

>>30373653
Single mothers ladies and gentlemen.

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>>30372359
Bump

>>30373611
>Which would be easiest to get into?


every branch has easy jobs

>but unless you're a sped you dont want to do them.

>>30372359
>>30374020
Do you understand what "passing" the ASVAB means? Look that up, and you'll have your answer.

>>30371918
As long as I learn how to do cool shit it can't be that bad right?

>>30374326
Army and Marines or AF iirc don't let you pick your job.
I'm talking about OCS

Do they still put religion on dog tags

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>>30372766

Ok. I'll definitely consider it.

I just thought that Network security would enhance my understanding of the intelligence field.

>>30372618
Get good at Running and Ruck Marches

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>>30372392
I'm looking at Airforce, so I'm guessing I won't get deployed that much.

>>30374020
I can't see one category fucking you up big time. Just relax and study up.

>>30370830
lol its not just that. its the history the marines have of raping and killing the local populace in Okinawa

>>30375584
I was army. Im pretty sure Air Force you either get air crew (which I assume is out for you if you can't get a waiver) or you'll work at NSA at either Meade or Gordon. Honestly although the NSA is an office job you'd still be doing important work.

>>30374834
Yeah but you can literally put whatever you want. I knew a guy who put Jedi on it, he wore robes in his off time and got arrested for taking an axe to a stop sign.

>>30364124
me and my family were stationed up there when my parents were still in the service, it's a pretty cozy state. too young to remember much tho

>>30372618
You have to score high enough in your class to get infantry, then go to ranger school, then pass ranger school, then go to your first unit and do well. If you do well, then if the assignment gods smile upon you, maybe you'll end up somewhere close enough to a ranger unit that you have the opportunity to attend ROP or whatever they're calling it these days. Get accepted, then do well as a ranger. Then, as a senior 1LT, don't apply to become special forces for some unknown reason that I will never understand, despite the fact that you probably have the background and fitness to get selected.

No matter how well you do, they'll kick you out when you make CPT. Then you have to go to another unit, get lucky with your assignment location and type again, get an early command, do well in that command, maybe get a second command, do well in that command too, and then apply to command in the ranger regiment.


Honestly, ending up in regiment as an officer is probably 2/3rds luck and 1/3rd skill. If you do not get exactly the right assignments in exactly the right order, it will not happen. If you show up to a unit at an unlucky time as a CPT and have to wait more than a year to get a company command, it will not happen. And so on.

>>30371897
>limited poo of options

This misspelling is perfect.

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>>30375845
So I could put saradominist?

Any ADF/ausfags here? I'm soon to finish schooling and was hoping to get some opinions/infomation. I like the idea of air force, especially piloting fast jets, but infantry or officer seems interesting too. Is their much competition to make these roles? Could anyone shed some light on such career paths? How hard is it to get deployed, is the uni any good?
Thanks in advance.

>>30362483
>Navy vet here, Diver is an amazing rate with even better opportunities once you are out. Its hard though man so you better be ready.

Thanks for the feed back.

Definitely taking swim classes for sure. I might go in as a welder of some sorts and then try to get into diving as my body at the moment is too weak. It would also help if I got more experience welding too. I am keeping an open mind for many jobs.

I get calls weekly from the army trying to recruit me after right said no 100 times. How do I get themy to stop?

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Alright /k/, I'm heading to my Army OCS board in a few weeks.

What should I expect? What kind of questions do they ask? How can I best prepare myself?

Pros

>Successful career in a civilian leadership position with glowing letters of rec from former superiors
>300 APFT

Cons

>Bad grades in college; 2.95 GPA

I'm 28, college was years ago. I'm hoping my strong resume cancels out my poor performance back then.

>>30376477
Bitches don't know about my Guthix.

I want to join Task Force 6-26 or Task Force 88. What do I need to do?

Considering joining Coast Guard Reserves. 20, finished up sophomore year in Chemical engineering, alternating between Mass. and VA. Anyone done it, before? Is it easy to transfer to a different base when I finish college? And should I wait until after graduating?

>>30378147
Tell them if they don't stop that you are going to join ISIS.

Sup MEG, active duty 88M here.

I want to transfer to the Navy. My ETS is Sept 2017. Wat do.

>>30378477
>get on government watch list
>can't buy handguns by the time I get to legal age
Perfect idea
But on a serious note, the Marines and the Navy called and I said I was somewhat interested. After that I got no calls or anything from them, but when the Army calls and I say no they just keep calling from different offices and contacting me on facebook.

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>>30378620
TELL ME ABOUT 88M PLEASE

>>30378147
Join the Army, or I'll keep calling.

sup 153D here, ask away

>>30378830
How did you commission?

>>30378830
How to I become a crew member/door gunner?

>>30378470
I'm also in a similar boat (kek). Is the 2 year ROTC scholarship the best way?

>>30378785
gonna need some more of the girl with bangs first

>>30378870
ROTC
>>30378878
talk to a recruiter in your state for NG or an active duty one and ask about being a part of aviation. To my understanding, you have to go in with an MOS of a maintainer first, and then once in you can get qualified to be a crew chief

>>30378301
Did you get a haircut for your OCS pic? My recruiter said I needed to get one but forgot to ask what kind

>>30378301
If you're expecting Aviation out of OCS, you're gonna have a bad time.

Easiest way into aviation is through the national guard, you can literally get a slot by interviewing at a prospective unit.

>>30379141
Also how long did it take you to max out the apft? Routine?

>>30378629
just change your number and make your facebook private

How do I join Special Operations Group?

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>>30378899
I don't have the sauce.... Pls tell me about 88m

>>30379233
Go 11B, put up with bullshit, be a good soldier, attend selection meetings that are hosted at post Gym on tuesdays

>>30379163

I'm not, that's just a cool picture.

>>30379141
>>30379206

I'm bald, so no need.

I used the workouts from DB WOD. It's very Crossfit-esqe. I did these almost everyday for two months. I would also do the Ab Ripper X routine. The website went down awhile ago, but I snagged snapshots before it vanished. Here you go.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B11F7e9MXvzyOURUVHcyb0NQUW8

>>30379256
Fuck I don't want to bother him just to ask about my haircut. I've always rocked the long hair too.

Alright thanks I'll check that out, maybe get some dumbbells on CL. I don't want to spend 100 a month on fucking crossfit so I could try that.

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>>30379247
The last guy wasnt me. But.

88M is a pretty chill life back in garrison. Everybody basically loves you because they habe no idea what you really do during the day. The key is "oh i was PMCSing a truck" or "I was cleaning some oil stain". Youll be driving alot to ranges on post if there are any, delivering anything from ammo to portaJons. Out in the fiel is when it gets complicated. Depending on what kind of unit or in or your platoon manpower, youll be on the road alot, doing anything from logpacs to ammo drops to helping set up Farps and Roms and going to LARPs at 2 in the goddamn morning.

But its a good life and the trucks are fun to drive and nobody really fucks with you. Be able to lift 88 Pound mortar cans. Maybe more if theyre HE. i cant remember....

>>30379283

Yeah, this is all the benefits of crossfit with none of the costs.

I go to my local Y for some of the workouts. I replace farmer's walk with a rowing machine and do the runs on the treadmill then jump on the dumbells.

There's lots of 1/4 and 1/2 sprints. After you do this for a long time, next thing you know 2 miles will be easy. I rock a 12:30 2 mile now, and I never run outside of these workouts.

>>30379254
What about joining the Marines and becoming a Raider first? From what I read SOG recruits from all branches and being a standout operator seems like it would help, especially since it is a rebooted force.

>>30379318
don't know nuffin bout them muhreens,

~~Airborne~~ (Not Airborne)

>>30379318

Because you will end up joining the Marines, getting disillusioned, become a terminal lance, skate, get married and divorced, seperate, and bitch about how the military wasn't like the Call of Duty and we can't have any more of those oh my god it drives me nuts

>>30379163

This is how I got my network ops contract in the air guard.

I was hanging out with friends who came back into town the night before the afoqt. I blew it out of my ass and I got 80s on the verbal ap and acad, and like a 30 on quant; doesn't matter since I met the minimum requirements and the leadership at the unit I applied to is totally gay for me since I have years of professional experience.

Imo, active duty is for kids out of high school and college new grads who fucked up and didn't secure a job. The guard and reserves are definitely the way to go for people who already have a good life and want to serve.

>>30379370
>terminal lance
Wasn't aware of this term but after looking it up it perfectly describes one of my friends who just finished an enlistment. I thought he just had a bad attitude from too high expectations not being met since he idolized marines as a kid. Not sure what you mean by skate unless you mean go through the motions. He didn't get hitched though he thought it was great in the beginning when some of his friends did. So is this elitist marine mentality is just overcompensation/marketing? What do you recommend instead? Based on my reading it seems like most former military have not so great things to say about their experience and end up going PMC or PSC, but in order to do that you need a military background. How do I control for the least damage?

>>30379489
>former military

meant former and current

>>30379430
it's how I became a helicopter pilot.
>decent amount of deployments.
>Staffed well enough so only the people who really wanna deploy will deploy with a few exceptions.
>Flying over your own house if you live close enough.
>More hours flying as a commissioned officer than active duty
>having a regular job where you get to leave to go be a pilot 3 times a month

>>30379489

Not that anon you're talking to but:

skater = faggot who hides from work, thereby causing more work for his colleagues

skate = the act of hiding from work

terminal lance = faggot who didn't try very hard at being a marine and blames getting out as an e3 on a system that is out to get them. Usually a 2nd or 3rd class pfter, a markman level shooter, and a skater.

Corporal and sergeant cutting scores are in the 1600s these days, closeouts hardly ever happen. The only reason why someone would be a terminal lance is because they were a shitty marine and never picked up or got busted down for being a moron.

>>30379532

I'm a prior active marine and I also once chugged the "reserves are stupid" kool aid. I had the option to go to a state school on a full ride and instead I enlisted because I let the propaganda seep into my head. I'm still buttmad about the five years I spent working 14 hour days for shit money.

Anyway, there are two f16 pilot slots at my guard unit that have been open for like a year. It really seems like the guard is the best kept secret in the military.

$13,000 (o-1) a year plus special pay to hang out for one weekend a month/two weeks a year, retirement options, space a flights, and more? Yes, please.

>>30379561
Ok then I was totally wrong. My friend was a good Marine and tried to get the most out of it. The definition I read of terminal lance basically described someone who was disillusioned with the stagnation/lack of dancement or mobility. And he definitely did not skate on his duties, he trained a lot as well. He just thought marine life was a waste of time and could have been fulfilled elsewhere.

>>30379613
never count on space A, never. But yeah, guard aviation and guard SF are pretty legit and have as high standards that are rigorously enforced as the AD counterparts.

>>30379624
>dancement

fuck meant advancement. this what I get for spilling some water on it.

>>30379561
>>30379489

I got out as an e4 Infantry. That dude is a pog faggot.

Sk8 = not showing up for a working party because an excuse

Being a sk8er means not giving a shit about bullshit. You always do your job.

>1600's cutting score

In 2011 Infantry cutting score for e4 was 1830.

>>30379637

I used space a all the time when I was in '02-08 to get between mcas beaufort and miramar. I went home every holiday. Also, my guard unit is an airlift that does flight nursing, they have ten open seats on their c130s at all times.

I was also pleasantly surprised when I saw how seriously they take their training, especially compared to ad air force. I watched their security forces drill one weekend - they got in riot gear and just beat the shit out of each other for like four hours, is was pretty glorious.

They're in southern california and frequently get called to assist with wildfire operations and later this year they're going to be going to germany to do medical flights out of the operating areas and kuwait. I won't get in before they go, still excited about what else happens in the future.

>>30379684
My friend was infantry. He wanted to be a sniper initially but ended up being assigned elsewhere.

>>30379684

Pretty common knowledge that retard jobs that have a billion people and tiny fields with around 150 have a sine-like attribute when it comes to scores.

Judging from your personal definition of what it means to skate, I'm guessing you were one of those people that everybody hated.

>>30379624

>someone who was disillusioned with the stagnation/lack of dancement or mobility

That is just part of being in one of the combat fields when there is no combat. There is always something to do in the other fields and people hate those who are lazy and hide at medical or other places during work hours. Everyone knew what they were volunteering for, and if you didn't and you try to make you being bored everyone else's problem you aren't going to have a good time in the marine corps.

Your friend is definitely right. Being a marine isn't rewarding in really any manner of speaking, telling civilians you are a marine gets old really fast, probably faster nowadays that the bootlicker culture is dying down.

When you get to be about 21 and your friends are graduating from college and making like 20 or 30k more than you in entry level positions, it starts to get even more depressing.

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>>30379732
Your post is a little retarded.

To the contrary I was well liked. Skating is a skill and well praised.

>>30379782
Yeah he said he felt like he was being held back and said that the marines being "underfunded" didn't help either. I guess he just felt like what he was doing was pointless or mindless and there was little room to grow, especially since the rank cap is lower than other branches as he claimed. At first he wanted to make it a career until his 40's but that faded away after serving 2 years. Now he wants to do real estate and be financially independent.

So I just dropped out of my highschool and got my GED.
I'm considering going into the Navy as a FMF Corpsman. Is this a bad idea?

I gather that doing the navy's nuke program is bad? They sell it way too hard.

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>>30380282
Memorize it.

I'm about to finish my 4th year of college (History, 3.4 GPA) and I know that I want to join the Army, but I don't know whether I want to commission or go Enlisted. I'd like to stay in for 20 if that matters.

Another thing, I was thinking that I'd like to go into something with intelligence. I've heard to do that you need to get Top Secret Clearance, which requires an interview. There are 2 things that worry me and make me wonder if I should even go for a TS job:

-When I was in my freshman year I smoked weed twice

-When I was 16-18 (when I first discovered 4chan) I went through a kiddy porn phase.

I haven't touched or looked at any of that degenerate shit in years but I don't know anything about statute of limitations or if the Army would care. Anyone have advice?

>>30380427
Scrub your shit clean and delete everything that could ever connect you to any of that CP.

As for the pot, don't lie about that.
If they ask just give them a calm concise answer.
I'm sure they'd understand somebody experimenting in highschool with something like that.

>>30380427
If you want to be a lifer as an officer in intelligence, be prepared for a poly down the line
so good luck with that

>>30380470
Yeah, I figure with the pot shit I can just be honest. I was an awkward 18 year old who didn't have many friends and said "sure" when a hot girl asked if I wanted to get high with her a couple times.

And there's absolutely no evidence that could tie me to any of the CP shit, I'm just wondering if they'd ask that kind of thing on the interview i.e
Interviewer:"Have you ever committed a crime?"
Me: Yes
Interviewer:"Which crimes?"
Me: shoplifting as a kid, smoked weed twice, also I watched a bunch of CP as a teenager
doesn't seem like it would win them over
>>30380506
fug

>>30380516
Leave out the CP stuff man. I'm sure if they do a background check, they'll see the time gap between then and now at least.
Make double sure you can't be tied to any of that stuff though.

>>30380304
If I go supply, which I plan to, is it true about the dick around all day thing?

>>30380594
Please don't go to supply just to dick around all day. There's plenty of desk-jobs you can get that don't actually need people to do shit on a timely basis.

I owe about $3000 in back taxes and another $600 on a defunct credit card. I'm currently expecting that my background check isn't going to turn up favorable for top secret clearance, which will rule out 35F.

What are some decent MOSs that don't require clearance. I have a perfect ASVAB score so I qualify for anything on that basis.

>>30380889

You likely won't be able to enlist these days while owing the irs, and really you may have issues getting in if you were to pay it.

>>30380889
are you working towards paying them? that's the bigger issue

>>30380939
Well, that's a bummer.

>>30380940
I'm out of work right now.

>>30380956

Talk to a recruiter and see what happens I say, just don't make the military your plan A.

Debt and shitty credit is bad, so I would imagine that guvment debt is a whole lot worse.

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>5a
W... what does this mean?

>>30381012
Do you have uncontrollabed outstanding debt or money problems that would make you an especial security liability.

People having money problems is the #1 reason for security clearance denials.

>>30380993
The funny thing is that I was gonna ship right after Christmas, but my medical paperwork got rejected a few days before my ship date. I've got doctor recommendations and whatnot to deal with that situation, but I do need to reenlist since I was considered a DEP loss before.

If everything goes best case scenario, and I'm allowed to enlist again, I still don't know what I want to do that doesn't require clearance. I want to serve my country, but if I can, I'd rather walk away with an applicable real world skillset than PTSD.

ctn is better than nuke right

right


am i making mistake

>>30381076
Ok thays good. I thought it meant if I had a history of missing payments. I'm really just getting psyched out right now

>>30381099
yes
no
>>30381101
it does mean that too. do you regularly miss payments or have runaway debt? Or are you making your payments on time and shit

>>30381137
I make most of my payments on time, and the debt never gets runaway, ever.

how hard is it to get a top security clearance

i have no criminal record and none of my family is foreign

>>30381220
top secret

>>30381220
you should get it then
are you a terrorist? Yes or No
takes a long ass time though

>>30381278
No

is that it?

>>30381278
What happens if I get through basic and AIT requires clearance?

>>30381306
You go as far as you can with an interim clearance, and then they pull you out of training and you sit on your hands until you are fully cleared.

>>30381285
drugs?
you gotta list a lot of references though which theyll interview and find others from those dudes.
any health shit? I don't know about whether or not to lie on that since I didn't have any issues there.

it's a big ass form.
>>30381306
can't speak for enlisted but when I was signing up for a TS for an officer program, they told me they'll basically hold me after OCS which is our basic training and make me wait for my clearance to go through before moving on to the school.

>>30371449

They are expected to do far more infantry shit than artillerymen.

Historically the mortarmen would eat, sleep, and travel with the infantry. In combat they were just behind the infantry in position to give supporting fires. If the company were to take casualties they can function as an organic auxilliary for the commander, and were usually some of the first ordered up to the line to serve as temporary replacements for infantry or to perform miscellaneous infantry tasks like carrying ammo/supplies or carrying wounded out of the combat zone.

So they're basically infantry with mortars, whereas the artillerymen are guns guys with rifles. Different emphasis. I dunno how they're used in modern operations.

>>30381328
Do you draw a paycheck? How long can that take and how does it affect your length of service?

>>30381340
you're still getting stacks
it honestly depends, can take a while if there's issues less if you're just an average amerifat

>>30381362
Not a bad deal then. I figure that wherever you're put up would have a gym and you'd be able to take other trainings or something.

About a month away from finishing my PhD in Computer Science. Just turned 30. Wondering if my wanderlust is going to get the better of me.

What can the military offer me /k/? I could make fuck tons of money in the private sector if I wanted. I could work 30 hour weeks and still make decent bank by teaching.

What cool shit is only open to you in the military if you're really smart? I don't want to be a pilot.

>>30381335
In recent theaters, artillery has been used in an infantry capacity, clearing villages, air assaults, aerial reaction force, etc. a buddy of mine who was a 13b was actually running an infantry mortar platoon during one tour near the end of OIF. There's still artillery guns stationed in afg but they hardly ever shoot anymore.

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Hey Canadian anons,

I want to join the Navy, but I have a full-time job currently, pays my bills etc. My hope would be to apply, take whatever interviews I need to, and all the while not need to resign from my current job until I'm through the medical exams and know I can actually go to Basic Training and stuff. I'd hate to fail a medical exam due to like, hearing or eyesight or whatever else.

Is that possible at all, or completely not how it works?

>>30381411
You sound pretty pretentious man. With that degree of education you'd be a fool to enter the service unless you were a doc or an attorney.

>>30381411
the navy is looking to take in dudes with experience and degrees for crypto shit
they'll bring you in at a higher rank too
but you sound like a fag and your shit's all retarded

>>30381330
: SSSS

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>>30381411
>don't wanna be a pilot
you're only fooling yourself anon

>>30381080

Sorry, can't help you with that. All the fun/interesting stuff requires clearances.

Hopefully you won't end up in admin or food service.

i know two people who joined the army and got their MOS written in their contract but still had it changed a little bit before they shipped out, anybody know why this happened and how to prevent it?

Military is the best worst thing you can do to yourself.

I just got out after six years, actually still on terminal leave for another 20 days or so. I hated every fucking waking minute of the last year I was in, but you just keep your head down shut the fuck up go to work and go home.

I am now video interviewing with booze allen, lockheed, and caci for positions all in the 60-80k range and have already had two tentative offers pending background and face to face.

Do it, don't be a barracks lawyer or fuck the barracks bunny without a condom. Don't get married, don't fucking knock up a soldier/local. Be at PT/formation/your place of duty at the right time every fucking time, in the right uniform. When your time is finally up, ask all your OIC/NCOICs that you had good relations with (you did brown-nose and get good relations right?) for letters of character/rec, and sail into the future happy without debt and free college.

>>30381482
Expand on that. How was it changed "a little bit"

>>30381471
Am I? I'm scared of heights but Navy and muhreen pilot boards are pretty high so I'm considering it. It's 8-10 years too fuck

>>30381513
Army Aviation is high above the best

>>30381509
i meant it was changed a short time before they shipped out, one guy went in as a medic and had it changed to something in engineering a few days before shipping out. I think he had previous experience in engineering but another person had no previous experience in anything and still had the same thing happen

>>30381513
I just ETS'd, spent my last three years with 12th CAB in Germany. Army aviation is 10x better than the other branches when it comes to culture and happiness. Plus, you get to learn from the saltiest, most experienced warrant officers in the world who could fly blackout while beating their dick and singing the anthem.

>>30381535
Probably only specific cases honestly. Needs of the Army and all that. They still would have to ok the change before shipping

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>>30381550
Preach it brother

What does it take to get into aviation?

>>30381411

Forget how hilarious it is that you're 30 with a phd and you don't know what to do with your life.

Also, forget this faggot >>30381458 as well. Design and implementation is done by civilians, not military enlisted or officers. Direct commissions, officers who are brought in at higher ranks, are only for professional degrees; you'd be a second lieutenant with a phd making $2900/mo if you joined as an officer.

Look into cyber in the army or air force if you really want to join active and do something in your field. Milfags in cyber are pretty much only junior sysadmins though, so it may be pretty unfulfilling.

Of course you can always google around and look at jobs. You're getting old though and you've never expressed interest in the military in your lifetime so it may be difficult to get a commission. If you want to get in your best bet are making some friends and getting a recommendation at a guard or reserve component imo.

Im back guys.

AMA

>>30381715
Pretty sure if you have a doctorate you join as an O3

>>30381701
In what capacity?
Technically just go sky diving and jump.
>>30381732
>source
>citation
>>30381723
Who are you

>>30381701
Balls of steel, a liver made of titanium and a cock like a Burmese Python

>>30381749
Great, got all that. Can I just off the street tell my army recruiter I want to fly?

Fuck the airforce. I've run into a lot of military people where I live, and the airforce guys I've met had a real superiority complex.

>>30381715
say that to my face not online and see what happens

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/19/navy-forges-ahead-plan-hire-civilians-chief-captain/85877884/
It's only in the planning stages I guess you're right

>>30381811
Can go officer route but need a degree. Otherwise, a lot of guys go in as a blackhawk crew chief and just keep dropping packets for flying warrant.

>>30381749
I don't have balls of steel though
>>30381550
>>30381520
really? Well I've always liked helicopters and shit and definitely don't want to fly an osprey since they seem cool but I heard they have a lot of accidents. I dunno what to do about my heights thing, and it's like 10 years isn't it? might as well be a lifer. What if I don't like it?

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>>30361877

fun fact: that picture was taken at the old ocs campus at ft benning. (now the new airborne campus) that building under construction in the background is the new airborne dfac. ocs is notorious for employing the kids waiting to class up in menial labor tasks like raking dirt and gravel.

>>30381732

If you have a doctorate in a professional field, yes; you may even get o4 if you have the professional experience as well. Otherwise, no, no you do not. This is only for DCOs.

Please stop making shit up. /meg/ is already shit, you don't have to contribute to it.

Does the ASVAB really matter past filtering out the actual retards?

>>30381956
>ASVAB really matter past filtering out the actual retards
Well thats what its for. It really doesnt serve any other purpose.

>>30381984
So people who blow hard about their high scores are just being assholes?

>>30381956
what did you make on it

>>30382000
>blow hard about their high scores are just being assholes?
Do people actually do this? Guessing your still in DEP? Mate it doesnt translate to work ethic or anyhing liek that so let it go. When i was in the fleet one guy in my div got a 90ish score and was the biggest dirtbag i knew. Super lazy and skated like no bodies business. Another guy got a 50ish and worked like a dog and loved the navy. the persons attitude is more important than some number on a test.

>>30382015
Lowest line score was a 132 in mechanical maintenance. I dropped out of high-school at the start of 10th grade, never learned wiring of any kind, and don't have a license or know the first thing about engines.

I genuinely can't imagine anyone getting lower than a 120 for any given line.

>>30382060
This.

Gt is 134, and i was piss drunk when i took it. I literally skipped portions of the test.

>>30381748
Used to come here a lot

I was in training to be a Special Missions Aviator on hueys but washed out and am about to reclass. Here to answer AF questions

>>30382102
>Here to answer AF questions
Whyd you wash out?
In all honestly do you think about suicide out of shame?

What's the biggest needs of the army MOS that isn't a punishment MOS like cooking?

>>30382060
what was yr afqt

>>30382124
98, but they gave me scrap paper so it was pretty forgiving.

>>30382141
they give everybody scrap paper
i got a 97 and i remember that i used 4 or 5 pieces of the paper they gave us : )

>>30362081
Naval Special Warfare by far.
2nd would be SAD/SOG but they're working with and in tangent with, you guessed it, NSW.

>>30382113
No, It is a very difficult course. My class had a 75 percent washout in the basic SMA class then a 33 percent in the follow on. I have been through SERE, which is cool

>>30382141
>nervous about the asvab
>take it
>remember basic arithmatic
>97 afqt
Is this really the standard of people in the navy? Am I smart or is the US just retarded?

>>30382264
how'd you like coronado

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TAKING THE ASVAB MONDAY

OH SHIT OH SHIT

I'M LIKE 4th GRADE LEVEL MATH

>>30381831

I admire your ability to check yourself and admit that you're wrong. As far as fearing people goes, I'm really not the type of person who gets intimidated.

It is in the planning stages for the air force as well. God help us if a bunch of 70 year old men write up the the DCO regulations for computer scientists. We're going to have information systems boot captains put in charge of a special operations development flight or some retarded shit.

Hey guys I just passed my pre-MEPs physical so it looks like Ill be shipping out on monday. I'm going for the CTI rating. Is there anyone who can enlighten me on what they do? I know the gist but is there any cool shit I can "subrate" in? I talked to some SEALs and they said NSW is looking for crypto fields to join a new task force. Of course I'd have to be a petty officer to even consider joining, but its my goal for the long run. Can anyone answer what this lifestyle would be like? I enjoy fast paced heart pounding stuff, so speaking foreign languages to enemy combatants would be awesome. Apparently even the CTI's which is supposedly a support rate have to go to SERE if they work in NSW.

>>30382352
obama is just doing as much damage as humanly possible before his regime ends desu

>>30382298

The military is for retards, so the test to get in is for retards.

If you ever move on to anything more meaningful later in life you'll start meeting more intelligent people. In the military you will find the most retarded retards there are, so sit back and enjoy being the smartest guy in the room for the next four or whatever years; just don't let it go to your head or else you're going to have issues heading into the civilian world where you're expected to actually be intelligent and perform rather than just talk shit or wax philosophical about moronic and bro tier subjects.

>>30382308
Do not know what you are refering , it may have changed terminology

>>30382370
Get out, t*rkroach

>>30382387
I guess that's it then. I was genuinely confused at the baseness of the test, like I was expecting to be challenged or at least put out of my comfort zone but the CAHSEE was harder than this shit, and the CAHSEE is designed for kids that know bare minimum schooling to get a worthless fake diploma.
I got a perfect score on mechanical comprehension because I knew how a fucking pully system worked.

>>30382369

Hurrrrrr... its obamas fault...

The joint chiefs had to come up with something in order to get tech people into the military and actually retain them. DCOs have no command authority like line officers, giving rank is purely for financial reasons because they can't push higher special pay initiatives through congress.

I wasn't commenting on someone being a higher rank, I was commenting on how junior enlisted kids will see a captain and expect him to know stuff without realizing he is a DCO and might not even have experience in the field he was assigned to. Assigning DCOs is easy when it comes to doctors and nurses, I just don't have the confidence that the dod will understand all the nuances of various computer science disciplines to put people in the right places; that is why I feel like DCOs for those fields haven't happened yet, besides the fact that our infrastructure is terrible and old white guys in congress don't understand the value of IT and how the world has changed over the last ten years.

>>30382453
Stupid plan. They need to do it like the SEALs do, low enlistment bonus but a huge reenlistment bonus. Like right now it's a 12000 enlistment bonus but a 60k reenlistment

>>30382463
>60k reenlistment
Are you sure? I figured itd be higher desu

>>30382336
the highest maths i had taken was al2 (not even honors) when i took it and i auto qual'd for nuke

ymmv tho

>>30382480
It might be like 75k. I think they only hit 100k once and it was during desert storm.

>>30362255
Youll be fine. There are only a handful of jobs that require a poly. Unless you raped and murdered someone you have nothing to worry about.

>>30382438

A monkey could probably be trained to work as a nuke tech if a system of lights for each troubleshooting situation was worked out for it.

Everything that enlisted people do is technician work to sustain missions, officers supervise them except for in cases like space ops where they also do sustainment. Like I said in an above post, only civilians do development and design.

Recruiters blow smoke up kids asses to tap into that American condition in which we all think we are special. Who knows, maybe even they are so deluded to think that military jobs are more than tech work, maybe they don't even know the difference between techs and engineers.

The requisite plan I would give is to do your time, get your gi bill, if you liked your job then get out and go to college so you can get a job designing the stuff you used to swap out parts on as a tech.

>>30382480
Hey my bad I fucked up. I'm wrong on this. It's a mathematical formula based on years worked/years promised/current pay.

>>30382521
Thank you for the advice and your time. I'll take it to heart.

My wife is prior-enlist and now officer, do I now get to pretend to wear her rank at the gates?

>>30382541
>tfw your wife has a bigger dick than you

>>30382463

>low enlistment bonus

Then they won't get anybody at all.

As a 22 year old new grad of cs why would I join the military to be a butter bar at $2900/mo when I can get probably twice that at a tech firm? Why would I do it when I can work for the air force as a civilian and get $6000/mo?

I'm sure they're all ears if you have a better plan. If they don't do anything then things are going to stay the way they are - scientists don't want to join and we fall further behind in cyber defense and everything else.

Is it weird that my wife makes me salute her before we leave for work? We work at the same base and she's one rank up. Her boyfriend thinks I'm imagining things.

>>30382370
>suicide
the 28 a day meme includes cold warrior baby boomers who off themselves for reasons unrelated to their service from 30 years ago. The real number of GWOT suicides is something like 2 a day.

>divorce
70% of all marriages in the US end in divorce. Just dont be a fgt and hire your high school sweetheart.

>casualties
only 1856 combat related US military deaths in 15 years of war. Only a small fraction of people in the military will ever see combat. The fucking war is over anyways.

>>30382624
oops meant marry. or you can hire a wife too, that would probably work as well.

>>30382541
>>30382614
never coming to this general ever again

Currently applying for a ROTC scholarship. Which branch should I choose? Currently deciding between the Marines and the Army. Any other options?

>>30382438
>>30382387

Present military here (11B, med dropped out of 18X).

I'm a cynical fuck so take this with a lot of salt, but yeah - the military needs meatbots. Smarts help a little, but boil it down and in the end it's about maneuvering meat robots over terrain for a 'good enough' result. And all you need for that is a 100IQ and a 240+ PT score.

And because bureaucracies can only communicate effectively in their own language, really a 300 PT is more important than smarts.

Moral of the story: get into SF. It's better there, not perfect, but a lot better and the only place where anything resembling "warrior culture" (and IQ's over 115) remains.

Don't get hurt and come to the 82nd, just don't.

And to fellow non-morons: yes, if you scored lower than a 99 or so on the ASVAB, you're a POS.

I currently manage a fellow who scored a 70, he has a 100 or so GT and he's a motherfucking window licker.

>>30382655
If retarded join marines.
If gay join army.

>>30382655
Army is better for a career. Only choose the Marines if you just really want to be a Marine and wear dress blues.

>>30382655
do you want to shoot ragheads or guard a base while the marines shoot ragheads

>>30382672
How so? A lot of people are telling me to join the Navy or the Air force b/c better conditions and pay.

>>30382709
You only gave the option of army or marines you fucking whimsical penis gypsy. If you expect everyone to know what you're thinking you might as well show up at coast guard training with your pants around your ankles and a big "fuck me" sign around your neck.

>>30382709
>hey guys what branch should i join im deciding between army and marines
>those both suck but if youre decided between those two army sucks a little less
>oh really cause a lot of people are convincing me to do navy or air force
>mffw

>>30382709
Fine cockbreath, I'll give you the dl.
Army: vanilla hard-working rucking motherfuckers (or lazy shitbag dental assistants as the case may be).
Navy: a floating prison, but at least you learn some shitty, barely-applicable tech skills.
AF: an SJW corporation with lots of koolaid.
Muhrines: a cult, but the koolaid wears off...eventually. And slower pay increas/promotions than the army.

Let's just say I'm in the army and have met a lot of ex-marines who joined the army to get faster pay raises.

How likely is it that I'd get bulled or made fun of in the military for not being social?

>>30382770
Moderate.

I'm asocial as fuck but because I'm competent at my job and prior deployed I'm respected.

If you're a nerdy lil shit, expect to take shit until you prove yourself. The army has a lot of nerds and it's not a problem unless you suck.

But overall it helps a lot to be social, this is an ape-grooming type of job. It might seem like results matter most but it's peacetime, so nah. If you really need that autist culture where hard work (and smart work) gets rewarded go tech sector.

>>30382709
Navy and Airforce are the most comfortable and prosperous branches of the military unless you're interested in commercial boating in which case join the coast guard.

Army is literally the people that do shit that nobody else wants to do. They have their pride and that's cool they're entitled to it, but they stick to regulation like its a bible and refuse to bend from it. Even the special forces in those communities struggle with static responses to fluid situations.

Marines are similar but they have a dangerous mindset that a lot of people lament on after leaving.

The goal if you're joining the navy is to get a rate where you don't stay in one place for too long or if you're smart to try and not get a rate on a ship. If you do that your life will be glorious.

Air Force is like the navy but way more SJW. Navy is fighting back against it but it starts from the top and makes its way down so if Hillary is elected the navy is gonna get even gayer than the airforce.

Regarding bases Army is the worst, Air Force are the cleanest, Marines are the 2nd worst because the marines have to clean them rather than contractors, Navy is indisputably the best. You can't go up against Coronado Pennsacola Virginia Beach New Orleans and the others.

>>30382758
>lets just say I'm in the army
Don't worry, we know.

>>30382758
>Army: vanilla hard-working rucking motherfuckers
>can't beat Navy in a football game

Hey everyone, I'm about to head off to RTC so I wanted to know how good of shape I can get in if I apply myself? I'm about 25 pounds heavier than my high school self and want to get back down to that weight group. I also want to get muscle so is there like an advanced fitness course I can sign up for to do in my free time or what?

What sorts of MOS can get you good jobs when you get out of the military?

I know trade stuff like plumbing, electric, and stuff like medical can but what are the others?

>>30382831
>caring about football

I only care about dip, M240s and BD6 guy.

And DROWN abuses and the epistemology of post-capitalist teleology, but no-one cares about those. Dick jokes are where it's at. Fml.

>>30382652

I was serious though, my wife is prior-E. No idea about the other shitposter.

Actually let me tell you turds a thing. We bring freezerpops and m&ms to the gateguards once a week to distribute to the rest of the Security Forces guys. It costs like 5 bucks a week and makes them real happy, it's a shame others dont do it. Security Forces have to work like 60 hours a week, they need to be treated better.

>>30382853
Special Forces obviously, CIA jobs are really good paying, you get like GS 12 or 13. Tech is shit in the army if you want tech in civilian go Air Force or Navy.

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>>30382868
>tech is shit
Wat

>>30382876
Is that Arizona? I'd say the middle east but the layout looks a little too civilized.

I have a hypothetical question, but I'd like a serious answer from anyone

When you talk to a recruiter to join their respective branch, do they ask why you're joining, and does your reasoning matter?

Let's say someone tells them that they're joining because they want to kill people. What would the recruiters say/do? I'm guessing they wouldn't let you in

Try to ignore the edge, it's a serious question

>>30382890
Close. Kandahar.

>>30382887
The army trains you to do a job they dont train you to learn material and grow your knowledge. The reason the Air Force and Navy pose way more of a threat to foreign global powers is because they advanced with the times. Army has stayed stagnant on its progress for the past 50 years.

>>30382903
Stay safe apacebro.

>>30382909
Kek. Tell me about transfer alignment from an FCR to an AGM-144N

>>30382887
11B here, supposedly signal, cyber and so on are shit in the army. I know the navy is said to be best at cyber (oh god, DOD, why use "cyber" for ITsec and pentesting, why) but overall none of the components are great at it compared to civilians, and it's a title 50 mission anyway.

Overall, grab a tech MOS and you'll have a decent wage as a satcom maintainer or such afterwards, but it's better to go civilian. That's where honest research and development happens.

Is it possible to sign up our Corgi for military K-9 stuff?

He could sniff bombs or some shit. Maybe kill a snackbar.

>>30382909
>advance with the times

Nah; it's that they ned gadgets to live while the army doesn't, which results in different failure mechanisms via feedback cycle per service.

AF and Navy are forced to be tech-centric which imposes good and bad effects. Army...well, they can't help it that human beings are still the central force-application method for human-being-related conflicts.

>>30382919
Ok bud. I spent a month at the Boeing plant learning the block III. I think I'll be ok.

>>30382948
How does it feel being a corporate guild-slave?

I bet the dosh is decent. 80k starting to 110k high end?

>>30382947
>Army
>Conflict
Navy SEALs see more conflict as a group of 10,000 than the entirety of combatant army personnel.

>>30382964
Working for the government is fine with me

>>30382967
Ok buddy. Your credentials are...

>>30367986
>>30371770
>>30369442
I'm deadset on landing one of these three, how are my chances? I'm thinking Reserve particularly.

>>30382967
Yes, though I was talking about the COCOM level.

SEALs are a whole bucket of fuck on their own, however. The group I met could neither operate a humvee door nor fill an MBITR. Not their fault, per se...I was chatting with an old Ranger Bat PSG and his theory was that the Navy stood up a commando school without the institutional experience to make it work. Army SF have the infantry background they can revert to so they're pre-trained for the basics. Navy learn without an operationally experienced background to correct off of, so feedback issues with arrogance become a problem and events like Lone Survivor occur...things no generic line recon team would fall afoul off because they can into basic cascade-failure prevention norms.

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>>30382983

>>30383020
Why can't you operate a fucking satcom radio

>>30383044
I went to breacher school I was offered radio school though.

>>30383059
So only one guy on the team can talk? Wtf mane

>>30383059
>needing a school to operate a radio

#justSEALthings

Here in 11B land, everyone knows how to fill a radio and set up a water/linear charge. If my dudes didn't know angles and timing for HF I'd strangle them, minus the retard ofc.

I hear BUDS is cool tho.

>>30383074
The way it works is a bit of a clusterfuck. Basically we steal knowledge. We send someone to a school, they learn all the important shit alongside the worthless nothings then they come back and teach the important shit to their team so everyone can do everyones job. Like everyone knows where to put a breaching charge on a door. Not everyone knows that if you put a breaching charge on the bottom of a door vs the middle-top you can decapitate anyone standing between 5-10 feet in front of it.

>>30383090
Ha. If we were all army 11b there'd be nobody to lifeguard the pools and puddles.
1st phase and the first 2 weeks of 3rd phase are a fucking gut check like you wouldn't believe. 2nd phase was fun because it was very technical and scientific. I've always been comfortable in the water so the time flew for me.
The island blows too but you're so close to the end you just think about eating hamburgers and shit as soon as your done.

>>30383151
Dude it's a radio. Not a fuckin nuclear warhead.

>>30383176
The school isn't fucking long, some of us have more important shit to do than call for help.

>>30383185
But you all learn 9 and 5 lines right?

>>30383195
Everybody learns basic radio field operation. The people who go to schools learn how to operate the fine equipment and fix it if damaged. They learn how to use some of the CIAs toys to listen on conversations.

>>30383221
Ohhh I've used those on missions before.

>>30383221
Everyone can do everyone's job, so if dude a catches a bullet dude b can pick up the slack.

>>30383235
Yeah so you know it's a little more complicated than just a satcom. Truth be told I haven't used any of those myself but I've seen them be used.

>>30383151
>The island blows too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwN7eYZseI

>>30383239
Yes that's the point

>>30382909

Truth

Air force network ops school follows comptia, you can sit for all kinds of certs after it. Army and marine corps make up their own bullshit that doesn't count for anything.

>>30383261
Well I was talking to the 11b guy so I shut off about half of my brain to communicate with ease.

>>30383260
They say on the island nobody can hear you scream but in reality they just do shady pt and gross shit with you since nobody who matters is watching.

thoughts on smp program?

>>30383289
It's not an island, it's a peninsula

>>30383323
Im talking about san clemente not coronado.
Coronado is also a penninsula by manmade measures which makes it historically an island and geographically a penninsula.

>>30383347
I just like to reference the simpsons, it's just such a great show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUOlZFuZkA

>>30383388
Alright bud good talk.

Air Force Intel here, if anyone wants me to answer any questions about my experience so far.

>>30383469
>>30383469
>>30383469
knockin on heaven's doors

>>30381811

Yes, its called the WOFT program, you can walk in an Army recruiters office and tell him you want to fly helos, no degree needed/

>>30381387
Ha. You get put to work doing menial duties like cleaning or filing paperwork while you wait. The military doesn't just let you have free time for nothing.

>>30378785
literally drive a truck