Battle Rifle General /brg/

What's the best FAL for a relative newbie? Is there any reason to get one at all over the PTR-91 A3R (wide handguard, paddle mag release) other than muh Rhodies?

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Does my bastard child have a home in this thread? Custom one piece feed ramped barrel extension, bored out gas port, custom heavy carrier, works great. 7.62x39.

>>30331102
>7.62x39
No. That's an assault rifle cartridge.

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>>30331047
For that price point (very near to $1000), the differences between the FALs you can find easily (DSA Voyagers) and HK91 clones you can find (PTR GI et al.) pretty much pool down to aesthetics and ergos. One won't be vastly more accurate than the other, and build quality won't widely differ between the two. People can argue cast vs. stamped til the cows come home, but when it boils down to it they're both pretty good rifles (with warranties, I might add) for their price point. Also remember, a modern cast receiver is probably just as solid (if not more so) than my early 2000s IMBEL forged one.

tl;dr, buy a DSA Voyager new or find a cheaper used one if you want a decent FAL.

>>30331102
Wrong case length bucko.

Cmon, guys. We even listed degeneracy as a valid topic, where is everyone?

I'm lurking.

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>>30331129
Forged is usually better but cast will do. If you can afford the $15,000 worth of ammo it would take to fatigue crack a quality cast receiver you can just buy a new FAL, or start a collection.

What is the most tactical dragon dildo I can add to my battle raifu

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>>30331746
A living one.

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>>30331129
>>30331033
>>30331661

Thinking of buying an FAL, looking at the voyager because duh.

Your thoughts?

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>>30332241
Voyager owner here. Ive put a lot of rounds through this, mostly rapid fire in shitty conditions.

Only issues ive ever had come from shitty mags.

I want a battle rifle, but alas, New York wont allow me to.

I want an M1A. At this point I don't even care the configuration, I just want a full sized rifle. I supposed ill just get like an A-Bolt or something.

>>30332315
Saiga in 308?
Zastava M77?
HK 770?

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>>30332283
Thanks m8

>Did you swap out the rear sight it comes with?

>>30332241
I've seen a few posts on FALfiles about their QC being somewhat hit and miss recently mostly with just the receivers but they do have a lifetime warranty if on the off-chance yours isn't 100%.

Mine had occasional issues ejecting that I was able to fix on my own (ejector block issue).

Is a G3 parts kits worth getting?

>>30332875
If you have a machine shop and the necessary equipment to remove the receiver stub, fold a new receiver flat, and weld the whole thing together, then yeah.

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>>30331033

Please ignore the non battle rifle in the photo. Wood Battle rifles a best.

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>>30331033
best way to sight my PTR in? for both Iron sights and scope. I do have access to a range up to and further than 100 yards, as well as a much smaller in-door range.

>>30332906
Do a decent bore sight if you can.

Then go out to a 100+yard range and sight it in

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Replaced the Clash hooks with U-loops recently.

Probably putting a DBAL on when I get home.

>>30332929
could you elaborate? what distance should I bore sight it in to start? I have those lazer bore sight things that chamber into the gun.

>>30332973
this makes my penis feel funny.

>Whats it weigh set up like that?

>>30333001
9.5lbs last I weighed it.

More when I get home and add more shit.

>>30332906
Tell me about where you got that scope and mount

>>30333025
rtg parts, but they sold out a while ago, and it cost about as much as the rifle. No idea where to get any more Originals like it in america except for bidding websites like gunbroker.

>>30333094
Figured that'd be the case. Appreciate the info.

>>30333109
yep, still out of stock. it was this particular one.

http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HENSOLDT-Z-24-OPTIC-KIT-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-27p2355.htm

good website for other parts, if they dont run out of stock...cheaper than HKparts at least.

>>30332359
Yes I did because default para is trash
>>30332875
If youre good at working sheet metal sure. If not youre looking at around $995 to get it built

>>30333130
I'm aware, I actually just ordered a wide green handguard and stock, with bipod and muzzle brake from them.

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>>30332905
Negative.
Polymer and aluminum battles rifles a bestest

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>>30333001

>>30333163

You can't wood that gun so metal is best only by default.

>>30332315
unless you live in nyc you can get an m1a in a silly ny safe act configuration. all the lgs around me have Springfield m1a's set up like this fulton armory model http://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-1.aspx

>>30333163
>literally a plastic Ugg boot for a stock
>bigger and fatter than an AR-10 for no appreciable benefit
SCARs are overrated memeguns.

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>>30333163
That's not how you spell 'plastic and racist sock paint'

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>>30333202
Actually you could.
Wood A2 grips and stock could be added.

>>30333208
>Bigger and Fatter
and somehow lighter and less recoil.
I dont know how you rate it, I rate mine in line quality wise other .308 semis that cost the same or more. Seems like its placed properly to me. But your in poverty and full of salt and sour grapes, hope you enjoy your SNAP benefits and section 8 housing.

>>30333248
I dont into shorty shorts or hating on negros, sorry my man

Sup /brg/. In the interest of reconnecting with my ancestral spirit I want to build an L1A1 but it looks like inch barrels are unobtanium these days. How much of a cunt would I be for putting a metric barrel on an inch receiver?

Also Coonan or DSA? I've heard some bad things about Coonan but they're cheaper.

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>>30333277
The 'racist' part is mostly a meme, for me it's more about the whole 'angry farmer with a rifle' mentality. It'd be a bit too much irony if I was Jewish AND a massive racist.

As for disliking shorts, we'll there's no excuse for that.

>>30333343
>for me it's more about the whole 'angry farmer with a rifle' mentality
Leverguns, ARs, and Mosins are also good for this theme, depending on which type of farmer you're LARPing as.

>>30333374
Guns in general tend to fit that theme pretty well.

>>30333390
hue hue hue

>>30333343
Shorts are fine.
Stubbies are not. Well on chics its cool, shorter the better then (generally).

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>>30333343
Need to upgrade your chest rig

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>>30333340
Between the two, I'd go with DSA. They're a proper company that will stand by their products. Dan Coonan is a rat bastard who will do his darndest to disavow himself from any of his receivers that have issues. In a perfect world, I'd say buy an Imbel but that's not likely to happen.

>>30333496
But have you ever worn stubbies? They're soooooo comfy.

>>30333178
Its like an autistic baby of a FAL a Scar and an AR..I love it.

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>>30333519
Never been uncomfortable in clothing really. Dont really get the "comfy" thing.
My go to shorts are Prana Stretch Zion, good ventilation, none of that cotton garbage either.

>>30332989

It's kinda tough, if its easy I might just bore sight at 25 years.

Then I would try the real zero at 100.

If you're good (I'm not) you can bore sight without the laser thing but that should be a decent start

Does that help at all?

>>30333629
yep, thank you.

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>>30333572
Idk, there's just something magical about being able to feel the wind gently caress your thighs without any obstruction. I'll relent, though, since your taste in regular shorts is fantastic.

>>30333974
If stubbies are your thing, rock it.
I just prefer more coverage, let my single dangle
That and I spend too much money at REI

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>>30333545

>>30332315
Buy a stripped receiver and build one, no one will know. Or care. Just avoid the state police.

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>>30333178
i love this

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>>30334674
How do you like the Moses magazines? I'm rather fed up with shitty DSA mags, and surplus is getting harder to find.

>>30334830
dsa mags are shitty?

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which would /k/ go with for a stock for a PTR91,

a solid stock or a collapsible stock?

>>30334882
I hear the collapsable one is called the meat tenderizer, with good reason.

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>>30334834
The few that I've had don't feed reliably with my IMBEL. It might be a "ymmv" thing or maybe my local LGS just got a really bad batch of them, but at any rate my experience with them hasn't been fantastic. My Izzy mag that barely even rocks in works better than any of my 3 DSAs.

>>30334882
Whatever will save the most weight. PTRs are big bitches if you're firing from standing.

>>30334882
You want a fixed one if you want to have the larger recoil spring.

>>30334905
It's mostly the forward weight that's an issue though

>>30334895
>Nigga wut?
Could you elaborate please?


>>30334905
Weight smeight. It's like .5lbs difference. If anything it'll help with balancing the rifle.

>>30334907
>nigga wut?

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Should a new rifle be this dirty?

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>>30334993
The buttpad on the classic G3 collapsible stock has a surface that looks like a meat tenderizing hammer. Combine that with .308 recoil....

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>>30335016
Gunky as fuck. Release lever doesnt want to budge at all.

>>30335016
Could honestly be from the factory test firing. Get used to your girl being dirty. That's how she runs, and that's how she likes it.

>>30335016
>>30335030
that's a combination of packing grease and from the test firing to ensure proper working order. the bolt locking lever is normally a MF anyways to release.

>>30335038
Anything I can do to free up the release lever without wrapping a shirt and standing on it with a flathead screwdriver? Damn thing wont budge at all. I even tried the put bolt in backwards trick and it wont go in that way either.

>>30335038
this right here. I found ZQI to be pretty clean, but the Federal XM80 is dirty AF.

>>30335063
I press the lever against the underside of the edge of my desk when I disassemble mine.

>>30335020
I have one. It's not that bad.

>>30334830
Moses is good to go

Anyone have the comic edit that says
do you ever get nostalgic for things you didn't experience. Like the Rhodesian Bush war?

>>30335038
>>30335055
>>30335078
Good tips thanks. Guess I just gotta strip that grease off and test fire it.

I have to go back to gander anyway. They shorted me 2 mags.

>>30335063
grab a flat head screw driver or a pair of non-maring pliers and just rotate the bolt head. it'll disengage from the locking lever and allow you to disassemble the BCG.

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If I get her running good Im going to give it a paint job like this.

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>>30335142

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>>30335101

>>30335142
That looks awful mate, and would perform even worse.

>>30335142
What is it about battle rifle fags and terrible paint jobs?

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>>30335182
>>30335177
>>30335164
B8 m8

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>>30335182
It's mostly the older, cheaper rifles

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>>30335238
I have been thinking of getting mine all purdy like the one in that picture, how would I go about doing that?

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>>30331033
>-Weaver Qwik-Point Sight
>Sky's out, thighs out.
I gotchu family.

>>30335016
Welcome to roller-delayed blowback, Anon.

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>>30335182
It's not like I'm going to ever sell it, might as well make sure nobody else wants to steal it.

Plus, it has a wonderful tendency to irk people on the internet.

>>30335266
mirin t rex mode

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>>30333178
Holy fuck I'm going to have an erection that lasts longer than 24 hours because of this image.

>>30334901
>The few that I've had don't feed reliably with my IMBEL
I had to grind the edges of the feedlips wider and now they work fine in my DSA
>>30334882
>Collapsible stock G3
Rattle me bones.jpg

>>30335253
$1 laundry bag
Flat spray paint

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sometimes i cant handle all these raifus

>>30331033
codes for paint and what did you pay

>>30331619
i was outside sorry

>>30331661
dem side rails lol

>>30332905
dat blur

>>30334895
because it is a bitch with all the recoil from the g3 platform >>30334993

>>30335113
you are suppose to clean nearly all new guns before you fire them since they have corrosion inhibiting grease on them

>>30335406
>Rattle me bones.jpg

I guess I'll never understand why people think this. I'm not even a big guy either.

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>>30335596
Sherwin Williams. The dudes gave me 34% off for the hell of it. Total price was $27ish for a quart of each. It's the all-surface enamel. Color codes were on FAL files, here's the cap I took.

hey everyone

im in the market for a .308....was looking at the ar-10 or sig 716 but both are rather pricey....any recommendations?

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>>30335307
Thanks Anon.

>>30335658
>rather pricey
PTR-91:
https://www.cdnnsports.com/ptr91k-308-16-classic-park-wd.html

>>30335596
it's really not "a bitch with all the recoil from the g3 platform". I think everybody makes the recoil of .308 sound a lot more than what it really is. I've shot F/A.308 rifles and GPMG's from the shoulder and it's really not that bad. rifle is completely useless in sustained firing. only good in short bursts, BTW.

>>30335658
Sig is heavy, needlessly full of proprietary shit
You could build, or have Rainier arms build you a .308 AR, with better parts, for less, and it would be more accurate.

>>30335699
>t-rex build
SS+GOMAD?

>>30335704
Sustained firing is generally useless

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>>30335142
do it

>>30335169
fav

>>30335182
you need to browse /arg/ they do it unironically

pic related

>>30335637
thanks

>>30335704
one day i hope to shoot a full auto FAL but out of the m14 and the g3 the g3 is worse on full auto by far

>>30335266
>old school tactical beer bottle pouch

noice

>>30335805
You ever get the part for your SCAR?

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>>30336113

>>30335596
>you are suppose to clean nearly all new guns before you fire them since they have corrosion inhibiting grease on them

Should the grease have grit in it? That cocking tube is dirty as hell. I know they run dirty and all but it looks like it had 100 rounds fired out of it recently.

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>>30336173

The bolt catch? How the fuck did you break that to begin with?

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>>30336173
The solution is clear, buy a second 17s.

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>>30336185
no you just got a rifle someone along the distribution chain felt like testing out more than likely

>>30336199
oper9ing

>>30336203
my scar with the chinese red dot and broken LRBHO at nuggetfest is the anit advertisement to buy FNH lol

>>30336185
pretty much. grease and heavily oiled components attract dust and what not. just cean it and you'll be fine.

>>30335266
What optic is that?

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>>30336239
>no you just got a rifle someone along the distribution chain felt like testing out more than likely

I am suspicious of that. The one on the rack was nice and worked pretty smooth. This one is not the same one. It has big dents in it and the top is dented along the charging handle guide. Pulled a bait and switch on me when they went in the back to box it up and shorted me the 5 round and 20 round mag. Im kinda pissed, so guess just nitpicking.

Anyway got this but apparently the rings arent high enough to clear the cetme rear sights. Any suggestions? Gonna take these rings back tomorrow and try to get the 5 round magazine at the very least.

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>>30336560
>$600 rifle
>$150 scope
$40 rings that aren't that terrible honestly

Shit, I dont know man, lose the rear sight?
Return the rifle, and get something designed to mount a scope?
What are you planning on shooting, and how far away from you will it be?

Can I into battle rifle with $600?

>>30336840
I mean, kinda? The C308 is that price, but idk if it functions well enough to fit the 'rifle' part of being a 'battle rifle'

>>30335055
>tfw I use the cheapest, sootiest russian made ammo i can find.

>>30336840
$120 Alexandria profab AR10 lower on AIM
$460 Alexandria profab AR10 upper on AIM
~$100 lower parts kit

AR10 is going to blow that by $80
Well, maybe 4JUL sales will be good

Poverty century rifle would do it. But honestly, if all you can afford is $600, invest in yourself and upgrade your job. $600 could help you move someplace where they actually pay well.

>>30336916
assuming no price gouging because of orlando.

Dumb question but the HK91/PTR91 designs have a non reciprocating charging handle, right?

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>>30336953
You millenials really need to learn that facebook outrage doesnt mean anything. There isnt going to be any bills put forth that will go anywhere. Clinton tried that in 1994, a midterm cycle, cost the DNC both isles for a long, long time.

Sure demand kicked up because the son of presidential candidate in Afganistan was confused about his sexuality and lashed out. But historically the 4Jul sales are the best of the year. Rest assured there will be some good deals.

>>30336999
They dont, and also no last round bolt hold open.

>>30337014
Oh ok, should I be pretty careful not to get smacked by the charging handle in that case?

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>>30335721
>SS+GOMAD?
I don't even know what that means.

>>30336506
Weaver Qwik-Point.

>>30336840
Maybe an old-school Century CETME sporter, now that they make the C308. Or one of their .308 MAS Mle.49/56 conversions like

>>30337035
I think he ment they don't as in 'they do not have a reciprocating charging handle nor do they have LRBHO'

>>30337035
No need.

even guns with a reciprocating charging handle, having it hit your hand isnt a big deal aside from feeling stupid and having to manually cycle the action.

>>30337056
Oh cool, thats gucci.

>>30337014
hopefully not, but its the people rushing to by the guns that caused price gouges back at sandy vag. Nuggets are now twice as much on average than they were before. and .22lr is STILL more expensive than it was by more than a few dollars.
>tfw no 1k rounds for 50 bucks.

>>30337054
Gallon of milk a day
Its a squatting and muh gainz thing.

>>30337035
the charging handle is not attached to the bolt of the gun.

>>30337073
The supply of nuggets also dried up.

.22lr will stay at this level. The market has shown it will bear it.

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>>30331033
I got a saiga 7.62 x39 mm.
Want a real nato weapon
Point me in the right direction for 2k or less

>>30337117
AR10 for practicality.
DSA SA58 for the memes.

>>30337117
http://www.dsarms.com/p-14236-fal-sa58-para-congo-rifle-18-premium-bipod-cut-threaded-barrel.aspx

>>30332185
What is this scope and how is it mounted?

>>30336677
>Return the rifle

Can that even be done?

That webm has me worried to even feed function test the C308. Honestly looks like he slipped before fully pulling the handle back, dindt lock the seer, bilt slammed a round in and the hammer was right begind it. Guess Ill find out if I ever take it to the range. I did clean off the packing grease and break the bolt down and get it degunked. Was pretty dirty, black shit all in there.

>>30336859
As I am finding out, not the best choice out there, save some extra cash and get something nicer is my advice.

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I have a beat to shit, ugly, might as well be tossed, South African FAL receiver

Where are good parts kits? Only reason I want to build on this receiver is because
>south african

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>>30337550
i paid 715 OTD for PTR i mean all g3s are shit but its not century shit

>>30337664
buy an SA kit and just eat the cost for having a complete rifle

also post pics

>>30337160
Is this the only company that makes The FAL?
That rifle is sexy

Alright guys, I know this probably gets asked a lot.

I have 1000 to spend on a rifle, I can go higher if needed but I'm looking at both the c308 and PTR 91 GI R. Is there any practical difference from an average shooter's perspective? I'll be fine with a 1.5 MOA rifle but with potential for lower would be great. Primarily looking for accurate enough out to 400 yards, able to feed it shit ammo, and be able to beat the fuck out of it and it can keep on trucking. From what I've read and seen, it seems like the c308 has a few problems with handguards and other minor shit. I'm leaning towards PTR 91 but saving a couple hundred bucks would be nice. Is the extra money worth it?

>>30337704
Annnd I'm retarded, should have read the thread. My bad guys. Looks like I'll go for the ptr

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Anyone run reloads through their rifles? I just got one of those hornandy AP loaders for dirt cheap with a set of .308 dies, and have no fucking clue where to start with looking up good loads for general target shooting

>>30337772
What kind of deal did you get on your press?

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>>30337827
$275 for the press, powder dropper, shell plate, a set of .308 dies, and a box of 75 or so 150gr soft point bullets and primers. I feel like I robbed this guy on it, but it's mine now.

And it's mounted on a proper bench now, this was just to get it set up.

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>>30337694
>muh elitist g3 a shit rhetoric
>rides entry level bike

>>30337248
Susat
Mounts on dust cover

>>30337703
These days, yeah
And yes it is

>>30337760
If you want 1.5moa or better from a semi auto .308 your choices are very limited.

PTR *might* do it if you get a real gem.
Armalite and dpms both have $1000 Ar10s
FNAR will do you too

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I want an M1A more than anything.

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>>30337907
show title or battle rifle lol

>>30337772
According to the Lyman 49th edition reloading handbook, 150g SP 2.735 OAL, BC of .338 and SD of .226. Varget at 42.5g will be 2632 fps and 47.0 is 2891 FPS. Let me know what powder youre using.

>>30338007

Why specifically a Springfield?

>>30338036
Because Norincos are both hard to come by, and not American.
And yeah, people can go on for hours to me about investment casting, and build quality, or the Norinco forged receivers and Brazilian made Springfield parts and all that shit, but it just comes down to knowing that it bears the name "Springfield", even if it isn't the real Springfield.

>>30338028
Guy I got it from gave me about a half a pound of IMR 4320, haven't bought any other powders yet

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Hkfag reporting in, don't have enough scratch right yet to pick up the scope still. Decided on a mark4 Leopoldo though, not sure which magnification or lens diameter I want though, I do know that I want to be able to reach out and touch someone though

>>30338078

What about Fulton Armory?

>>30337970
I actually never even looked at the FNAR. It's still in my price range and apparently can do 1 MOA groups regularly. I'll definitely have to look into it, I'm not buying until 4th of July to see if there's a sale for anything I want. Thanks man. I'll make sure to post whatever I get here. Still might go PTR for the cheap mags and aesthetic, though.

>>30338086
Start at 42.5g (2544 fps) Max is 47.0g (2874 fps) Buy a decent scale and double check your drop about every 30 rds

>>30338156
I was looking into getting one of those Titan .308s before I bought the mr762. I've heard their ar10s are good, but their claim to fame is their m1s and m14s.

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>>30338261
Thanks anon, I'll have to pick up a handbook on my next trip to fleet farm as well.

>>30338099
>mk4 leupy

You realize they're no longer selling those to civilians, right?

>they're garbage scopes anyways

>>30338247
>I actually never even looked at the FNAR.
i dont think a mjority of people have, truthfully. i dont recall anyone ever talking about it, let alone seeing it in person.

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>>30331033
what chest rig is that? im trying to find some good options

>>30338413
SADF.

Ivan has them, it's the Pattern 83.

>>30338371
>i dont recall anyone ever talking about it

Man, I hadn't even heard of it before just then. I assumed FN did mostly M16s and MGs with some high end DMRs. It doesn't help that it's fucking ugly as sin either, but I can look past that if it's a good rifle.

>>30338156
They're in the upwards of 4 Grand

>>30338671
And here I thought these threads had nothing going on.

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>>30338434
and where/how does one procure one of these?

>>30338758
kommando store

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>>30338736
wanted to get some pics of it in action but ended up going to the river instead. maybe next weekend.

>>30338099
I wish I had the means to enjoy good things.

>>30335596
I hate barrel mounted sling because muh POI shifts

Magpul polymer rail sections (not the mlok) fit that handguard like the shit was made for it.

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>>30338633
>>30338648
>>30338655
>>30338671
Lewd

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>>30338445
>It doesn't help that it's fucking ugly as sin either, but I can look past that if it's a good rifle.
I mean, the forward as fuck mag + pistol grip makes it look weird.
A traditional stock and maybe a smaller mag looks alright.

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I'm in the market for a M14. What's recommended a surplus or a modern?

>>30339072
don't think there's surplus m14's on the market, or that they're very expensive.

>>30339055
Yeah, I don't know why but it looks like a mish mash of a fudd hunting rifle and an AR. It's kind of growing on me actually.

>>30339134
Just gonna have to get the Springfield one?

>>30334674
>Elcan on FAL

MY FUCKING COCK DEAR LORD

Can the HK91 bipod be properly stored without the wide handguard?

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>>30339445
Considering it needs the wide handguard to even be attached to the rifle, no.

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>>30339472
Mirin that Namibian bruh

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>>30339503
Feels good to finally have a gun to put it on.

>>30337248
>>30337922
It's a L2A2 SUIT sight, the reticule comes down instead of going up, it's a neat sight but I prefer the irons on my FAL

>>30332315
bruh
you can do a lr308 with a califag/ny stock

>>30333519
imbel group buy motherfucker

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>>30339279

>>30339626
It's supposed to come down.
Makes holdovers possible

>>30332973
is that a hogue grip?

>>30338671
are you tucking ?

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>>30338984
>POI in a battle raifu thread
you disgust me

>>30339072
>>30339222
if you want to buy a 'good' one buy a rockola m1a

>>30334830
>>30334901
also i have 7 dsa mags no failures outa of my dsa sa58

>>30341236
thats a girl

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>>30331033
Bren sling is best sling for a FAL.

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Morning, guys.

Apparently we are at DEFCON 3 right now, some hardcore saber-rattling is going down between NATO and Russia.

In light of this, what modifications to a battle rifle would be most useful in a post apocalyptic wasteland?

>>30340066
holdovers?

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>>30335266
What mag pouch/carrier is that? I need that beer holder for parties...

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>>30345734
Chinese Type-63. Supposed to hold 2x 10rd SKS chargers in each pouch, but can fit a 20rd 7.62 mag snugly. little grenade pouch on each end can hold a 8oz water bottle, or larger if you tie them closed.

>>30338099
>Mk4
>Not mk6 or mk8
Blew your wad on the rifle, too cheap for a good scope?

>>30342365
Nothing is going to happen.
Calm your tits.

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Just got back from the range, had a grand old time. The FAL never fails to make me feel like a manlet (probably because I am one)

hey /brg/, I've never used or owned a bipod before... do HK91 bipods actually work?

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>>30346038
Why wouldn't they work?

>>30346065
I mean like, are the effective bipods? Just good for stability or also recoil negation.

>>30346034
Sweet mother, how far below six foot are you?

>>30346034
All men are equal when holding a FAL.

How much is an older CETME Sporter with a paddle mag release, recoil stop block, trigger job, rear HK drum sight, several G3 mags, and 200 rounds of assorted brass cased .308 be worth?

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>>30346122
I'm like 5'10", but I'm hunched over like Quasimodo in that picture.

>>30346264
Idk mang like $850 at the most.

>>30346404
I was that tall when I was 13

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>>30346420
I keep telling myself that I'll have another growth spurt, but at 18 that seems unlikely.

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>>30346264
Post pic. Sounds like maybe $700.

>>30346611
I don't have pics but I was wrong about the drum sight, don't know why I remember it having that.

It's a friends that I'm considering trading my AR for and I'm just trying to get a value idea on it.

>>30346467
What FAL model?

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>>30346710
Imbel kit built on an Imbel receiver in someone's garage.

>>30346785

I swear this one ass-ugly FAL shows up more on /k/ than any other firearm

>>30346785
>I'm thinking of getting a voyager, only thing I wish it had was a carry handle and i'll obviously replace the rear sight

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>>30346796
What can I say, I'm a vigorous shitposter.

Besides, it's an image board! One should never post without an image! Especially in the BR thread. I'm convinced that there are less than 15 people here that even have BRs, because I see very few rifles that aren't from off the net somewhere.

>>30346829
Hell, nothing wrong with the Voyager. It's just got a lot of aluminium parts, which might even count as a good thing since a forged steel FAL weighs upwards of 11lbs.

>>30342365
http://www.snopes.com/defcon-warning-level-escalated-to-3/

H O A X

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>>30346975
Most people are poors and or only own a shitme/poortr so they don't post unless butthurt

Dumb ass doggo

>>30347467
>snopes
This update to the news is brought to you by George Soros and Pals!

Do the claw mounts for PTR's lose zero easily? Or I'm guessing it matters whether you get a shitty one or not?

I'm not big on the idea of a welded rail mount because if I just want to use irons I think it looks a whole lot better but if the welded is that much better I'm willing to reconsider.

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>>30347582
Haven't noticed mine losing zero that easily. I bought one of the railed UTG mounts for like $70. Clamps down pretty fucking tight.

>>30347905
Chinweld much?

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>>30339072
Here is a photo of mine for inspiration

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>>30349449
>potato picture
>primary arms optic
>harris bipod
>550 cord sling
im seeing a pattern here

>>30349487
Harris is GOAT what are you talking about, so long as it is genuine Harris.

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>>30347508
That's a real nice dog. Kinda makes me wanna smear peanut butter on my genitals...

>>30349487
Nigger I just went out to snap that with my new phone guck right off. Also, nothing wrong with the sling or scope, if I had more money I'd buy a vortex. Until then I'll stick with my 1.5 moa m15 suck a dick

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>>30350034
Are we going there?

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>>30349800
>Is this anon stuck in the 70s?
Atlas, the answer is atlas bipods.

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>>30349942
>Vortex
>More money
That's what your "if I save up" scope is?
I stand by my original assessment

>>30349942
Get a Leupold Mk 4

>>30350605
>mk4
>2002+14 common era
Are you really recommending a x3 erector scope?
And one that costs more and has less features than a Nightforce?

>>30350396
A nightforce would probably be a better choice but I don't think it would really be worth it to put on a m14. Vortex to me seems like the good middle ground.
>>30350605
It would be a good choice but truly the primary arms is doing a very good job.

>>30350717
What sort of features do you demand from an optic?

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>>30350761
Depends on the optic and its purposes.
If im looking for a scope to put on my medium contoured 6.5 Creedmoor im going to want something different than what I want a featherweight setup.

I highly prefer my adjustments in milrads. I appreciate zero stop turrets. Illuminated reticles are worth it if A. Its bright enough to be daylight visible, which is almost none, or B. you entertain the thought of using a clip on sight. I dont like ranging with reticles, but I like xmas tree reticles for long range shots, doesnt have to be full horus, G2 works.

ACOGs are fine for closer stuff
Aimpoints fine for closer still

Its a tool, you use the right tool for the job.

>>30334882
My HK-91 had a collapsible when I bought it, but it didn't take long for me to order a solid. I thought it was a lot more comfortable to shoot that way.

>>30336677
Why I spent the extra money and bought a HK.

>>30331047
DSA Voyagers are not terrible; like the WASR of the FAL world. The FAL pattern really shines in the SA58 configuration. Otherwise, buy a good build or find an FN.
PTR A3R is good to go right out of the box. Great bargain price does not reflect the accuracy (if broken in properly, read the manual) or the reliability.

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>>30346074
My stability is rock solid on mine. Recoil is still there, but I never gave its impulse much thought.

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>tfw you've been trying to trade your AK for a DSA Fal or a ptr 91 for a month but the only local guns are bolt actions, ARs, shit tier AKs, and glocks everywhere

I just wanna be real fuckin NATO

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>>30351579
Be willing to drive

>>30351633

I wonder if M-lok shit will fit into those handguard slots. They look identical.

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>All these beautiful Pattern 83 rigs
>tfw thanks to international shipping costs to Canada and the exchange rate I've never managed to find one for under $80
Fuck, I want what is basically a well over $100 rig for $50.

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>>30351633
Century OPAP. No canted sights. Never had any kind of FTE of FTF. Only thing I've had problems with is a loose rear sight block but I sent it back to Century and had it fixed and it's dead on now. I spent an afternoon shooting 2 liters at varying ranges to make sure.

It's at the very least 900 with the stock, hinge, and adapter plate. I've been offering cash in addition to everything in the pic. 300 rounds total as well.

I know I'll never get what I put into it. Just wish there were people with decent firearm taste locally.

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>>30346975
>How'd you paint your rifle?

I plan on doing something equally goddy on my FAL

>>30351959
>goddy
I think you mean gaudy you fucking scum

How often should I check bolt gap on my PTR?

>>30337664
Numrich gunpartscorp

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>>30351959
Paint applied with a boot sock gains +1 authenticity and +9gorillion disgustingness. Guaranteed to irritate other people.

>>30350241
Dat fucking mag...?
What the fuck, thanks dick now I need that.

Are the Israeli FALs worth picking up?
A local store near me has a few for around 800.

>>30353140
Steal that fucking thing you fool. Fucking sell the furniture or keep it as the badass special snowflake it is.

Is there any major difference between an SA58 and a PTR91? Is there a benefit to one over the other?

>>30353412
Well I know what I'm spending my bonus on.

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>>30350241
its been a while since ive seen a curved hk mag

>>30351874
but dat century fampai

>>30351959
gotta be glossy TM

also make sure to paint the entire gun without taping anything off no joke

>>30353466
ptr91s are cheap angle brackets compared to the proven durability, design, and history of the FN FAL

remember the germans did and wanted to use it but only switched because butthurt after FN wouldnt grant them a manufacturing licence thats why the FAL is the G1 and the CETME is the G3

>>30353477
as you should take pics if they actually have a few and you ffl ships id consider buying one if you posted pictures

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>>30332315
>NY won't allow me to

Why do you listen to shills when you're the one paying their salary?

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Reminder that the G3 is still in use by first world militaries.

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>>30354447
>sweden
>first world

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>>30354447
>africa
>first world

>>30354474
Dude In my pic is from Norway.

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>>30354447
>Belgium
>First world

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>>30354477
Show me an FAL being used outside Africa, degenerate-kun

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>>30354496
here is one in the appalachian mountains

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>>30352339
Every hour of every day.

>>30353095
>>30354394
It's a 30-round CETME mag.

>>30354506
>appalachian
>first-world

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>>30354584
rude

>>30354495
Ireland uses it as a DMR

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>>30354728
>Potato: the country
>first-world

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>>30355741
You tried

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>>30355907
I succeeded.

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>>30354728
>>30355741
>>30355924

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>>30356026
>The Irish are poor
Color me shocked.

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>>30356175
Ireland gdp per capita ranks 11th in the world. Right behind murrica.
Not like you know shit about economics

>>30346065
>>30346074
where does one acquire a straight ptr bipod such as these?

>>30356449
RTG parts
Hurry before they're sold our again

Is $650 a good price for a mostly complete L1A1 kit with barrel?

>>30356449
This
>>30356481

They had been out of stock/sold out for fucking years before this last shipment. I ordered mine like 2 hours after getting the email from them and several of us on here and forums thought they'd sell out by that weekend. Might buy a few and sell em for double or more later hmm.

Is it worth looking for a used ptr or should I just get a new one?

>>30357577
Yes.
L1A1 kits are rare
Get a forged DSA upper while you can too

>>30358270
If you're that poor you should save up and/or find a new job.

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Today was a good day.

/k/ bros I'm thinking of getting a ptr. Is the 91FR the one I want?

>>30359041
If you want the aluminum handguard and bull barrel then sure.

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>>30359041
no matter which one you pick you will: say 50 years of firearms development is useless, you will use MOA and POI even though you dont know what they mean, confuse the difference between a DMR and a BR, buy four hk brand accessories that cost as much as you rifle but for any other platform they would be less than 100$, and ask how fast PTRs costumer service takes to repair a rifle

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>>30360117
The one guy on here who msg90ed his ptr blew his trunnion. This is like the only g3 variant that actually has looks going for it.

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>>30360204

>>30360117
I thought you got over this when you bought a PTR

What are the most iconic battle rifle models in the world right now?

>>30332283
All that wasted grape soda

>>30360453
Kaffir detected

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>>30360450
FAL, G3, and M14. AR10 variants and SCARs to a lesser extent but are much more popular now.

>>30360497
Thanks Anon.

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>>30360418
no

>>30360453
you guys should really use diet so it isnt all sticky when you pick it up and doesnt attract insects

>>30360497
FAL best all years

>>30341985
I like that sling, what's so good about it?

Also, does any place really make rhodie camp uniforms now?

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>>30341985
You call that an rhodesian?

>>30360117
>50 years of fire arms development is useless

You are also saying that the second you pick up a battle rifle. Or any .308 gun for that matter

Poorfag here, how do I into battle rifles? What's the cheapest, but not shit tier?

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>>30360646
id consider getting into 6.5 if fnh made scar kits for it then id get in on that ar10 game too

serious though sounds like ar fag talk even though 5.56xdesigned to wound is 52 years old or a cetme owner

>>30361214
garage kit FAL

hk clones are junk i know i own one

>>30361214
PTR or an AR10 if you can find the parts for it right now.

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>>30361319
he said not shit tier

>>30361333
kys

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>>30361214

This>>30361313
>garage kit fal
Every time.

>>1530847>>30354506
Oh shit do you live in georgia by chance?

>>30361313
Aftermarket 6.5 SCAR stuff isn't out yet

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>>30361449
pennsylvania

>>30361578
no shit are you too poor to pay attention to what i wrote?

>>30361742
You said if FNH made them.
FNH isn't going to. Not for awhile. Aftermarket is trying to get up on it, but no one has brought something out yet.

No glass having tripfag calling other people poor. Do you have any accessories for your rifles? Shit all looks a little basic.