Canada General

>>30264886
>>Update on the Troy Par the .308 version has now also been classed as NR (Also includes 243 Win // 7mm-08 Rem // .338 fed)
What's this now? Any pictures or details?

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>>30264902
Its a pump action AR-15 style rifle.
Theres a short action in 5.56 and .300blk
Now theres a long action in .308 sized calibers.

No they do not bypass magazine restrictions as they are still using regular AR-15 and AR-10 mags.

Right now theres no Canadian dealers but IRG is importing them. Starting at $1000USD.

>>30264945
Interesting, so another AR like gun that you can take in the woods. Not sure I'd spend $1000 on that when I could get a Mini 14 or something though. Seems more like a novelty.

>>30264971
Basically but would have much better accuracy than the mini-14. Plus they can take modified ar-15 barrels (just need to have the gas port welded.)

>>30264971
Mini 14s cost a bit more, and they aren't chambered in .308.

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is there a full "Canadian" breakfast, leafs?

>>30265049
Not really, either just cereal, or a breakfast similar to what Americans would eat if they put in effort (eggs, bacon, toast, beans).

>>30265049

Tim Hortons breakfast sandwich with ham (aka Canadian bacon) with hash brown and double double

>>30264990
I thought Ruger fixed most of their accuracy problems?

>>30265123
had that today

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Reminder that Weedman is the kind of cuck to change our gun laws based on what happened down in the states Sunday morning.

Facebook is going full anti-gun and Vice is shilling hard:

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-gun-used-in-the-orlando-shooting-is-available-in-canada?utm_source=vicefbca

W-why does everyone try to take away the things I like..

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>>30265123
double double? what's that

>>30265411
coffee with 2 cream, 2 sugar

>>30265401
Its ok CBC is saying that the gun used is illegal in Canada basically counteracting all the other shit.

>>30265411
SEVEN
LIMES

>>30265475
ASINGLEYAM!!!

Anyone go to the gunshow in heritage village yesterday ?
Thank goodness my I took my boss along with me I would of bought so much stupid shit.
I did get a H&R model 400 for 40$ which was the highlight

>>30265452
Ah, the one time the CBCs gun ignorance can work in our favour.

"I kinda wanna room clear the back of the store"
-tok guy

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>>30265411
>double double?
>what's that
W-what?

>>30265934
An Englishman inquiring about Canadian breakfasts on /k/ for some odd reason.

>>30265911
Well I didn't put it exactly like that.
Did I say it to you, or are you the one who dropped my brand new pistol and spilled spaghetti everywhere?
>>30265123
Timmies a shit, McD's coffee a best.

Okay, I need some clarification.

I received my PAL - I'm assume it's my PAL/RPAL because it says "restricted" and "non-restricted" on back under "POSSESSION."

I don't have an ATT, so my question is: what is the process to purchase my first handgun?

Do I purchase it, call the CFO and/or RCMP, and wait for an ATT to arrive before I pick it up? In what form will my ATT arrive in?

Merci.

>>30266410
Sorry i for the haha at the end thatd probably help

>>30266634
That is indeed your Restricted. The process is slow, but simple.
>Pay for handgun
>Store will initiate a "transfer" to move it from their possession to yours
>Harass your local CFO office occasionally until the gun is transferred to you.
>At this point, you may receive email confirmation that you can go get it and take it home
>Shitpost about your new gun
>Wait for the registration paper to arrive via Canada Post so you can take it out to the range

>>30266712

That's what I thought.

Thanks buddy.

>>30266657
What? SPEAK SENSE, MAN.

>>30266728
No problem. What handgun were you looking at, if I may ask?

>>30266733
Im making honey garlic wings no time to make sense.

>>30266779
>Not teriyaki
Fill me in on what you meant, then commit suicide.
>I fucking knew at least one of you guys browsed here.
Always expected it to be Ash, though.

>>30266754

Haven't decided yet, but I'm leaning towards the CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow

>>30266820
Its actually honey garlic and teriyaki and okay to suicide but only in japan. Also went and checked out wildwood and it btfos my spot

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>>30266876
I haven't been there in a while. Where did you normally go? I go up past Westlock.
Actually, I barely remember how to get to Wildwood.

Also, I got the Type 97 feeding properly. But I do appreciate the advice.

>>30266916
Genesee. And my friend said your type 97 looks retarded or something along those lines

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>>30266950
Oh, yeah, I avoid that spot.
And yeah, with the VFG, it does. But it's so comfy.

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>>30266984
Its alright but still people around.

>>30267066
That's why I like my spot. If I can ever afford my Iltis, however, I'll be driving up the trail to Wildwood all the damn time to /k/amp

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I just bought a 14" Supernova (pic is related but not mine because my camera and photography skills suck).

I'm looking for a single shot .22lr; what is a good/cheap option? I'd prefer brand new since I don't want to wreck anything with historical value and I'll probably be attempting amateur gunsmithing like building my own stock, engraving, stuff like that. Thanks in advance.

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Thoughts on a setup like pic related in a vertical shoulder holster? Glock 34 w/Surefire X300 Ultra. It'd have to be a custom holster, but it feels great in my large hands. Or should I just trade the 34 in for a 17 and forego the light?

>>30265049
isn't that it? what says that Canadians can't eat food like that?

as long as it's quick to prepare and easy to eat it works

did anyone order the type 81?

>>30267549
Why would you ever forgo the light?
Thats just madness.

>>30267664
I wish I had the money, but I bought a VZ58 last year, and I've bought a a Mosin and crate of ammo this year, and I'm going to buy a shotgun and some shells soon too, so I don't have the money.

>>30267664
2-3 did afaik

>>30267664
Was sorta tempted, but I'm not really keen on paying $1000 up front without knowing what the rifles will actually be like. On the flip side Tactical Imports keep screaming 'there's only one shipment coming guys!!1!', so. I guess it depends on if the initial reviews come out before the rifles are sold out.

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>>30266984
Bleh T97. Had one myself before I sold it. Completely unreliable, pushed bullets to the top of the chamber or feed ramp. Just one giant turd in general.

Replaces with a vz 58 in .223. So far a very enjoyable rifle with good ergonomics

>>30267713
17s look weird with lights to me, but the 34 is a bit longer. I keep getting >"IT'S A COMPETITION PISTOL THAT'S WHAT IT'S MEANT FOR IT'S TOO BIIIIIIIG GET A G19" responses online.

>>30267886
>Railed handguards
>Shitty M4 stock
Pig disgusting.

>>30267664
I ordered one with a fixed stock

>>30267945
>I like the m4 stock
>functional hand guards
>not as pretty but more useful than wood.

>>30268100
What are you going to be putting on the handguards, I hope no sights up tops, the upper handguard on mine is loose as shit from the factory, any sight would lose 0 with every shot.

>>30265401
>>30265452
>>30265661
The fact that the guy who sold the gun to the shooter wasn't following State regulations is also going to play in to our favor.

>>30268194
sauce?

>>30268253
>sauce?
4chan... >>30268023

So yeah...

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>>30267895
Well, fug, the cutout makes the sights I wanted look dumb as fuck. I guess 17 is is...

>>30264886
What is everyones predictions for the next 6 months? I believe the us will extend ground operations in Syria or iraq further complicating things, there will be 1-2 high casualtie events in America and Canada, with a couple more happening in Europe, Hillary will win an push gun control hard, Trudeau will respond with a strong anti gun rhetoric and push for more security measures while working with the muslim community, Canada will join operations in Syria and iraq to and extent, and thats about it for now

>>30265401

That article wasn't terrible.

I rather have liberal media interview someone who is knowledgable about firearms than jerk-off on a page about assault weapons.

>>30267886

I'm sorry, but that vz58 looks disgusting. I had a similar set-up which I acquired from a local sale and I had to replace everything but the grip with beaver barf because it looked so fucking disgusting. I would also recommend a side mounted rail if you want to attach an optic.

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Took this out on friday. The optic was a little too far back so I positioned it properly. It shoots beautifully. I'm now putting money into the gun fund for a new handguard, foregrip and AR magwell adapter.

newfag here, how long did it take you guys to get your gun license and how much in total did it cost?

>>30269098
About $100 for CFSC course, $80 for CRFSC, $80 for application. Took about 4 months total, because 2 months for the actual application 2 months to actually get around to doing the courses. After that you'll need supplies, but you'll be able to get a gun from there.

>>30269098

The cost of the course varies from each instructor, but you're looking at probably around $100 for that. If I recall the form requests $65 for registration, plus the fees for getting a photo taken and postage.

I got mine when we only had to take a challenge test. Paid the instructor $50. It was $112 all said and done.

>>30269098

250.00 for both the PAL/RPAL course + 80.00 for the application.

Took 50 days for my license to be mailed to me from the day I mailed the application.

>>30269098
$120 for the course, $80 for the RPAL, 28 days from the time they received my application. Renewals have been running about a month.

>>30269090
Have you considered using the side mount for the scope? It would probably hold a zero better than the dust cover mount.

>>30270850

I was worried about that, but I haven't had any problems, yet. It's pretty damn solid and robust. I'll keep you guys posted about it.

Damn, this Kanada thread is slower than usual

What's your favourite cartridge to shoot, boys?

>>30273101
5.56/.223, 7.62x39, 7.62x25. But 12ga is fun, as is the bigger stuff. I'm not into .22, or anything like that, though.

No gunz here but my brother inlaw has four, a .22, two .223 and a shotgun. If I want to go to a range to shoot with him will I need a license?

>>30273684

Nope. You don't even need to go to a range to fire shotgun, but I'm sure your brother knows that.

>>30273731
Ok cool. We are in Kelowna so there are a ton of logging roads that head out into the middle of nowhere if we just want to fire some stuff off. The last time we went out for a hike we actually found a number of shotgun shells at the trailhead.

>>30273804

Just make sure it's Crown Land

Mini 14 good for a trunk gun?

http://calibremag.ca/liberals-ignore-ar-15-petition/

Libs gonna lib.

>>30275323

( ._.)

>>30275323
the timing could not have been worse.

getting the ar-15 out of the spotlight in canada is the best thing that could happen right now. this bill never had a chance under a liberal majority anyways.

>>30275323
Not surprising, especially considering the shooting in Orlando.

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>>30275323
>http://calibremag.ca/liberals-ignore-ar-15-petition/
>“The position of the government of Canada is that this judgment needs to be left in the hands of the professionals in the police authorities, who are by far in the best position to make these judgment calls based upon their expertise,” Goodale commented today. “The request has been made to change the classification, but our position is ‘no’, that the existing classification will remain.”
moftherfuckinasbhmajbc hdjsb

>>30273656
you're around clearwater area?
also anything to avoid in toks im thinking of picking one up this week?

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>>30265123
>Liking Tim Horton's Coffee
>Double double

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>>30276208
that's why I either get an Ice cap or triple triple, neither of which I'd consider coffee.

>>30276196
>Leaving the classification of the legality of an item in the hands of an organization that not only enforces the laws around said item, but has blatantly shown itself to be biased against said item, similar items, and the people who choose to own said items.
This is a great plan and could never backfire in any way.
>>30276202
I'm slightly north of Edmonton. As for Toks, well, there's not much to say. Ideally, snag a Russian. Inspect the bore, and the gun in general. But even the chink ones are perfectly fine. Don't pay too much over $200.

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>>30276208
Tim Horton's ain't bad as a "fuck I want a coffee but Starbucks is way too overpriced" thing, it's shitty and watered down so making it a double double masks the shit and fool your tired mind into thinking you're drinking something alright.

Nothing will beat home brewed black coffee from one of those three piece espresso percolators though.

>>30276308
P&D enterprises has a used Russian tok going for about $150 right now, it's like Russian vs. Chinese SKS's, there's no good reason to get a Chinese right now.

>>30265401
We literally had a school shooting in Canada a few months ago, and Weedman didn't say anything about gun control.

For that matter, the most he did was send his condolences to the victims' families. This is also the most impressive thing he did, and it wasn't even much.

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>>30265475
I'm okay with this, as long as they don't try to hurt my babies.

>>30267664
I might be moving to the US, so I'm trying to avoid buying Chinese firearms.

>of course, I could lobby for change in US import laws, but they don't care about what a Cucknadian has to say

>>30265049
Why didn't you butter your toast? Are you fucking insane?

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Took it out again today. Fired 160 rounds and it still kept its zero. Tried out the illuminated reticle and used both eyes to aim. Grabbed some shitty $4.00 jumpstart water packs from CT and shot them to shit.

So far so good.

Has anyone made a kit gun ? Im a cheap prick but I have access to a bridgeport and lathe, im just like to make sure everything is tickity boo in the eyes of johnny law

>>30276676
You know your country is fucked when the best thing your leader does is nothing.

>>30276980
Well, if Trudope would just finally legalize marijuana like he said he's gonna do (before he was elected), my respect for him would actually go up a little.

I know that everyone here has a different opinion on marijuana, but I personally have no problem with it, and to our Prime Minister, it would actually mean keeping a promise, for once.

>>30276941
You need to clear it with CFP (and register if restricted). Other than that you cannot sell the finished firearm.

>>30277020
coolio , thats what i thought .
Any good kits out there ? I saw a scorpion kit but it was sold out within a day :*(

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Hey guys, I have a question

I got my PAL, do I need to do anything else before I fire off a non-restricted weapon on crown land?

Can I go straight inna woods after I buy a NR rifle?

Thanks, cheers

>>30276928
are they ever gonna sell these things again?

>>30277004
I'd think most people here wouldn't really give a shit about le miracle plant being legalized, aside from a few muh deejenrucy memers.

Its pretty much unofficially legal here in BC.

>>30265049
>fuckin tomato
>some kinda green thing
>no butter on toast

Otherwise that's pretty good. Maybe a piece of peameal, and one more egg.

But that is the "I have time to make stuff" breakfast.
I bet like, 80% of Canadians just go to Tims on the way to work. Get a Tims breakfast sandwich (basically a McDonalds sausage and egg mcmuffin, only egg is scrambly, sausage is a bit spicy, and the bun is more like a butter soaked biscuit.)
Or if your guts cannot handle the grease at the moment, just a bagel with cream cheese. Also, obviously, a coffee, infused with whatever addictive fucking lab-grown smack they put in it that makes me crave bland Timmy's coffee every fucking morning like a goddamn tweaker.

>>30277051

As far as I know, a lot of dealers are still selling VZ's.

>>30277038
Its good to have a hunting licence just due to MNR dicks but not completely necessary. (Unless NS then i've heard horror stories.)

>>30277038
Check your province's laws.

Make it abundantly clear that you're not a poacher. This could mean a lot of different things to each province.
>targets (actual professional-quality targets from a retailer; not beer cans or mickey-mouse makeshifts)
>an actual hunting permit/license/etc., even if you don't actually need one (basically, if you're a legitimate hunter on paper, they have no reason to harass you)

Apparently it's much harder to shoot innawoods in Nova Scotia than any other province.

>>30277038
I would bring some factory made targets ,or else a CO will think your a DIRTY POACHER !
(also bring a tarp to shoot on and a bag for trash )
remember to have a backstop

>>30267254
Single shot .22lrs are somewhat rare- they're fairly specialized so the prices are high. You could just get one of the cheaper bolt actions (like the Marlin or Savage).

>>30277066

>Also, obviously, a coffee, infused with whatever addictive fucking lab-grown smack they put in it that makes me crave bland Timmy's coffee every fucking morning like a goddamn tweaker.

I've heard from a few former smokers that they taste nicotine in it.

>>30277038
check your local bylaws. there might be restrictions on the days/times when you're allowed to discharge a weapon

>>30277066
>80% of Canadians just go to Tims on the way to work.
Not me, as there is no Tim Hortons on the way to work. They do exist on a few detours, but then I wouldn't be at work.

>tfw I tried McDonald's for breakfast once
>not bad
>then I started reading the paper sleeve that housed the hash brown
>220 calories
>fucking shit
I don't eat fast food breakfast anymore.

>>30277072
>>30277079
>>30277080

Thanks guys - do I need to register my NR rifle or wait for registration papers? Or is that only for restricted rifles?

>>30277121

Just for restricted

>>30277121
Restricted only (Unless QC)

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>>30276928
muh nigga

>>30277092
>I've heard from a few former smokers that they taste nicotine in it.
Even if that's true, that could just mean that it tastes like shit, not that it contains actual nicotine.

>be an ex-smoker myself
>bought a bottle of Colt 45 malt liquor
>because it was like $6 and I wanted to be black for a day
>tasted like cigarettes

>>30277121
just for restricted ,
NR you just pay em , and you go home with your baby .
Dont feel stupid , i thought you had to wait ( a cool down period ) , when i found out you didn't I bought a sks and a mosin on the spot

>>30277144

I see you have a rear mount for yours, as well. Any issues with yours so far?

I've thought about getting another VZ in 7.62. How do you like it?

>>30277136
>>30277139
>>30277157

Thanks guys, now I understand why the LGR was a pain

Cheers

>>30277092
I've heard a lot of stuff.
Tims coffee myths are plentiful.
>nicotine
>additional caffeine
>caramel
And usually the story goes, it's infused into the wax lining of the cups, and comes out when hot coffee is poured in. That's why when you buy Tims grounds and make it at home, it's not the same.

>>30277186
None at all actually, except for disassembling, which is pretty common.

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>>30277207
>it's not the same.
well fuck my wife this, guy may be on to something

>>30277207
My sister used to work at Army & Navy, and one of her regular customers was this middle-aged conspiracy theorist lady who would come in to buy entire cans of coffee grounds from some obscure brand.

The reason she does this is because she refuses to drink Tim Hortons coffee. She refuses to drink Tim Hortons coffee is because, according to her crackpot theories, Tim Hortons coffee contains MSG.

That's clearly stupid, but most people can let that slide. You can't fix stupid, so you gotta let people have some of their delusions.

Oh, and this bitch is wildly inconsistent. Along with those coffee grounds, she will also buy several large bags of potato chips. You know, the biggest target of MSG criticism.

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>>30277235

>>30277276
But anon MSG is the great giver of flavor why would you ever deny it entry to your body.

So I've been living with my gf for a while, but I haven't officially changed my address (my mom works at the uni I go to so I get free tuition as long as I'm officially living with them), but I was planning on keeping some of my guns there. I have my PAL obviously by my gf doesn't, is it legal for me to store my guns in her apartment if I'm not officially living there?

>>30277847

Whoever is in possession must have a PAL

>>30277847

i think that starts to stir up the whole commonlaw shitstorm.

>>30277865

But I'm basically there all the time.

>>30277004
>Watching debate on news today
>Trudeau says (paraphrasing of course) "if we legalize marijuana now, young people will buy it illegally, we need to figure out a good system first"
>Mulclair basically says "that's what's happening right now you stupid fuck"
Fuck, you know Trudeau is shit when he makes you agree with fucking Mulclair.

>>30277847
Nothing says where you have to store non restricted so long as you are storing them properly.

She also should not have access to them, this can be as simple as her not having access to trigger lock keys/combo.

>>30277952
Oh, Mulcair.

It seems like yesterday that he and Trudeau were screaming at each other face-to-face and almost got in a fight. Luckily the only casualty was an elbowed titty.

>>30277847
NR yes, R no. As long as she can't access them.

>>30277952
Funny that Trudeau is contradicting himself.

Before he became PM, he said that legalizing would reduce underage purchases.

The reasoning went something like this:
>drug dealers are full-time criminals, therefore morally bankrupt from the beginning, therefore not picky about customers
>marijuana retailers are legal operations, therefore underage purchases would be largely mitigated

>>30277987
Just watch, one day Mulcair is gonna get the NDP to go full Julius Caesar on Trudeau's ass.

>>30277066
>>30277119
>people swerving all over the place every morning and holding up traffic so they can turn into a tim hortons or mcdicks for coffee
>people stopped in the middle of both lanes waiting for rush hour traffic to part so they can turn left into a tim's parking lot
I hope all these people die, or at least buy coffee makers.

>>30277066
>>30277092
There's no nicotine in the cups or the coffee. Caffeine itself is addictive and habit-forming. This is nothing to be concerned about and is really half the fun.

>>30277276
>>30277327
MSG causes minor brain bleeding in like 20 to 30 percent of white people. If you're asian then go ahead and snort that shit.

I've noticed that people who worry too much about MSG have other strange food beliefs, like how pork will stay rotting in your digestive system for 7 years, gluten being poison, lactose intolerance being a problem for white people, etc.

>>30277879
commonlaw depends on province and in most provinces is pretty reasonable. I was worried it would be some horrible california-tier shit but it's nothing to be worried about. it doesn't have any effect on your PAL. conjugal partners affect your PAL. similar but not the same.

>>30277964
I don't think that there is any law saying that she can't have access to the keys or know the combinations. She can't reasonably be found guilty an offense if she unlocks the safe and uses a gun to fend off home invaders, because the right to security in one's home trumps lesser laws. That said, the guns are best in the safe if you're not around. She should only know the combination if you trust her, and if you don't trust her then you shouldn't really be moving in or leaving guns at her place.

>>30277051
They're never going to stop. Every single Vz. 58 that is imported is guaranteed to sell. Every store I know is constantly ordering more.

Has anyone tried the rear sight mounts for 58s or SKSen?

Also: an interesting Vz 58 rear sight:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_83/142018_VZ__58_Peep_Sights.html

>>30277119
>reminder that an active male adult requires 2500 to 3000+ calories a day just to maintain health
200 is nothing

>>30277004
Trudeaus gonna ride the weed train all the way to the next election, he will keep trying to "find a system that will work" and when next election rolls around he will regurgitate the same shit that if re-elected he will implement legalization

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>>30264886
So in light of the recent events in Orlando, the AR-15 probably has an even lower probability of becoming re-classified right?

>>30279128
Was shotdown in parliament today. >>30275323
Classic knee jerk reaction.

>>30277051
You can get them online for $1295 cad, I've seen a lot of websites that have them for sale.


Is anyone here in BC? Lower mainland/vancouver? What are some good crown locations that I can discharge rifles at?

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>>30279160
>RCMP Firearms experts

I hate them so goddamn much.

>>30279214
>TFW bought a solid stock VZ58 in 7.62 for $1050
So lucky I bought it when I did.

Just saw on CTV News:

>less than 4000 registered AR-15s in Canada

>>30265049

Do you sit down when you piss?

>>30279677
I'd claim bullshit on that. We have around 600,000-700,000 people with RPALs in this country. No way there aren't more.

>>30279214
anuddah hongcouverite here

wasn't there supposed to be a new range opening up in richmond or something?

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>>30264886
6b47+Gsh-01-01 masterrace. Any helmet fags in here?

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>>30279922
Muh digital flora

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Post >yfw if the AR-15 gets banned in the United States but remains legal in Canada

>>30280068
If it gets widely banned down south you can be sure as hell it's gonna get moved to the prohib class here. Trudeau wouldn't want us lagging behind in the race towards progressiveism after all.

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>ITT all this VZ
why was the only decent handguard optic-mounting option discontinued?
does anyone else still carry this?

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>>30279303
I got mine for $800 used from some Chinese guy who shot it twice. I don't think he realized how much it was worth.

>>30279677
Gee, I feel so special.

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>>30279677
the rest are 80-brand paperweights?

>>30279780
most RPAL holders get the R because of handguns
most people who want to shoot long guns will always go with NR because it offers more freedom (hunting, shooting on own or crown land, etc.)

What's a good trunk that uses STANAG mags, is cheap, and doesn't have a too long overall length?

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>>30280698

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BR-99 came in. Anyone have any experience with it? Any advice on accessories / optics?

>>30280698
Probably the Type-97. Might have to play with it a bit to get some mags to work properly.

hello
do you guys like carrying a concealed weapon? also, i enjoy taking the pins out of my mags and pins. let us share images and stories of when we removed restrictions.

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>>30279303
>got mine from Wolverine in 2009 for $695
>shoulda bought a crate
got the NEA handguards too, amazing

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>>30280698
Type 97, probably. Mine eats Gen 2 PMags like a champ. There are cheaper guns (I'll be going with an 18in M305 myself), but you did specifically demand STANAGs. And as you can see, it's damn short.

>>30280864
>>30280753

How do the LAR mags and Beo mags fit in it?

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>>30280850
>got the NEA handguards too, amazing

>>30280864
what was the chambering issue and how did you resolve it?

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>>30280791
haha, yes, I too enjoy concealed carrying in public and pulling pins, yes indeed, would you please post your home address so a congratulatory merriment team may be sent to present you with merriment, Civil-I mean Citizen?

>>30280950
Of course.
73 Leikin Drive
Ottawa ON K1A 0R2

>>30280910
I have not tried those yet. Probably just gonna buy a few more PMags. They look "correct" and they work.
>>30280850
JELLY AS FUCK
>>30280931
I don't know what it was. Good cleaning and it was solved. Which one am I speaking to here? Gun-dropper?

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>>30264886
How do you guys deal with using unpinned mags at the range? I glue the top part of the rivets over the hole and tape over them. Nobody has noticed yet.

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>>30280973
YOUR CHEEKY BEHAVIOUR DOES NOT AMUSE US, CIVILIAN

>>30281000
I don't ever go to ranges. Seriously, I'd rather grab a coffee and drive out to CL than deal with ranges, rules, and some fuckass RSO over my shoulder.

>>30281000
I just use wooden dowels. But thats cause my mags are 300$ each, also only load 5rds

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>>30280977
>Which one am I speaking to here? Gun-dropper?
no idea what you're referencing, so probably not

I just remember you complaining from the previous thread that you had T97 that was smooth and fine, but with a bent rail or something, and the replacement you got wouldn't chamber (which is kind of an even bigger deal), so wanted to find out how you resolved it

T97 seems like a really good deal on paper and is a well designed (in terms of function, not ergonomics) firearm, but the shoddy chink quality control seems to shit all over what could otherwise be a popular rifle. all the issues and the horror stories seem to turn a lot of people off, even at the accessible price point. if Norcs got their act together, they could sell a lot more of these
>people complaining about ergos should stick to AR, but reliability and safety are non-negotiable in a sports or hunting rifle

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Fort McMurray reporting in

>>30281154

>SKS

nothing of value was lost.

>>30281060
Oh, sorry. I took it back to my LGS, to confirm the issue, and we got it to work. While I was there, I took my G34, to compare it to a G17, and one employee fucking dropped it, knocking the rear sight half off and spraying spaghetti everywhere. But it was just an accident.

The most common issue I've heard of is the shitty feed ramp (need to get a smith to polish/notch it like an AR ramp), and the issue with them not liking certain mags. I found that the green follower USGI mag was so tight that it nearly fused with the receiver. So Gen 2 PMags it is.

>>30281154
I bet it still functions, too. I'd save it if at all possible.

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>>30281199
lol, s-senpai has noticed me, b-but not like this, NOT LIKE THIS!
yeah, I heard they either like USGI or Gen2. Gen2 looks a lot more aesthetic with the rest of the black polymer, desu senpai

>>30281154
aww, poor babby ;_;
>I bet if you clean it and get a replacement stock for it, it'll function just fine
might have to replace some of the smaller springs in the trigger assembly, depending on how much heat and for how long it cooked, they could fail

>>30281211
>>30281278
Nah, it's fucked. The heat warped the metal enough that nothing moves.
I put the gun on the ground, barrel up, and stomped on the charging handle as hard as I could and it didn't even budge. Welded everything together, basically.

Protip, fireproof safes won't actually protect anything inside them if the house burns hot enough

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>>30281325

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>>30281154
Here's a couple more

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>>30281325
Then put her in a nice box, bury her, and make a cross that reads "Here lies *serial number* SKS, 19__-2016"

Poor thing had a long life, she deserves some sleep.

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>>30281382
I legitimately teared up a little

>>30281395
One of them was a Lee Enfield that belonged to my grandfather in the war

>>30281443
You fucker whyd you say that

>>30281455
Sorry anon.
Anyway I had a long day, I'm gonna go to sleep now.

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>>30281443
Y-you'll give her a good funeral, right?

Or clean her up as best you can and preserve her in a display case for the memories?

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>>30281154
>>30281382
Its always a sad day when a firearm gets destroyed

>>30281443
You have my sympathies anon.

>>30281443

Fuck.

>>30281443
Oh, fuck. I'd keep it, put it in a little display case with a little plate with the info.
I'm so sorry, Anon. I guess there really is no way to protect against a blaze like that.

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>>30281000

>shooting some hand thrown clays at the shotgun range
>pair of guys pulls up in a rusty dodge ram
>one steps out in a three-color desert shirt and gym shorts, other is like 300 pounds with his gut hanging out
>three color desert pulls a CZ-858 out from the bed of his truck, rocks in a magazine and mag dumps 30 rounds into the berm
>hands it to his friend, who loads a new magazine, and grabs some clays and a chucker from the back of the truck
>fatso grabs a Mossberg and loads it.
>they spend the next half hour swapping back and forth between shooting at clays with the pump action and the CZ.

RIP APRA public range. There was never a more honest shooting range. People that were never there could never understand what they missed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/06/13/bob-zimmer-ar-15-gun-restricted-orlando_n_10444276.html

Oh, my, this is a good one. Comments section is a gold mine, too. Huffpo's typical nonsense.

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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/canada-baltics-troops-russia-1.3635139

Now I remember why I vote Liberal Federal, Conservative Provincial. I knew had some of his old man in him. Eveything LGBTQXYZ he put through doesn't bother me personally because he hasn't gone after guns.

>yet

>>30269090
Hey you bought the scope I suggested.
Rifle looks pretty slick mate.

>>30276208
Tim Horton's coffee is as good as any other generic coffee unless you want to pay 2-3 times more for something better.
I will agree double-doubles are for girly-men.

>>30281855

I did! Thanks for the suggestion. It's pretty solid. The only downside is its weight.

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>>30281812
don't worry, he will
>I'm surprised they haven't gone after all ARs because of 80% ARs yet, but picrelated will be the end of all that and might lead to even more restrictions

>>30281000
I don't know how you guys have the balls to do that in public.
The RCMP SWAT guys use my range regularily, would be just my fucking luck they show up when I'm out there with unpinned mags.

>>30281443
Fug dude. Clean it up, find some new-old wood, get the old girl running again?

>>30281883
To be fair, the only lighter short "scopes" you're going to find are going to be either the 1.5 or 2 power ACOGs or the Leupold Prismatics. Or a red-dot of course. Glad to hear you dig it.

>>30281892
>80% lowers for sale with jigs and full-auto BCGs from CTCS
>full-auto LPKs from Dlask and Marstar
Its like they want us to do illegal shit lel

>>30281800
That was painful. I mean really fucking painful to read those comments.

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>>30281950
I have no doubt that everyone who buys them will get a visit from the surprise party van, there's just no way that these aren't being tracked
>wait a year or two
>then in one large operation hundreds or thousands of illegal firearms are ceased from formerly presumed to be law abiding gun owners
>you see! you see! this is why we need registration, ban on semi-autos and even more strict controls
I wouldn't even visit CTCS or Dlask websites, unless you really need some optic or part that only they sell. this whole 80% shit is not more freedom, it's bullshit that a few idiots will think is cool and the entire law abiding firearms community will suffer from in the end

>>30281950
LPKs? And I thought you couldn't buy ALL th F/A AR parts, just most.

>>30281964
You knew what you were getting into. I especially like the weird vegan who claimed all hunters should be mass murdered because muh durr lives matter.
>>30282010
Draw up a fake sale if you do. If Glock 80s are coming, I'll have to do the same. Build a ghost AR and Glock, then store them deep off-site with a ton of ammo, just in case, with regular inspections/cleaning jobs.

>>30282010

Didn't Dlask get held for questioning for some reason or another a couple years ago?

>>30282070
the fuck is a fake sale?
>I mean, the fuck is a fake sale, officer?

>>30282091
That joke is staler than the muffins at McDicks. Thankfully their coffee is good, unlike that weak-ass Timmies spittle.

What I mean is, 80%ers aren't required to be registered. Buy it, build it, hide it away however you choose. If someone does swing by, have a fake bill of sale set up.
>It was shit quality/parts costs would push it past just buying a complete gun, officer
>I sold it to Mike from Canmore, yes I checked his PAL and got a BoS, even though it wasn't necessary to do so, really
>Just doing my part to be responsible, sir, haha

>>30282091

"selling" the 80% lower to someone that doesn't exist

>>30282085
well, that would explain the part in their policy now says they log your IP and any electronic info about your activity on their site, hehe
>he looked at the 80 lower 4 times in two weeks! gear up, boys! we got a live one!

>>30282129
>Pay cash for burner pay-as-you-go phone at Mac's
>Pay cash for prepaid credit card
>Purchase them online from across town, have package sent to family or friends
Even "electronic tracking" can be subverted.

>>30282129
Library computer to order, prepaid credit card, send it to a PO box you paid in cash for the next town over. Wait a couple weeks to pick it up so they won't catch you on surveillance. Easy as shit to not get caught. Nobody knows but you.

>>30282161
Scratch that, get on good terms with your LGS and have the packages sent there or something.
>Mfw my LGS has Mike from Canmore as an actual customer in their system
I bet that could be abused if bans started happening.

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>>30282120
fuck you! I'll make memes about you like I did with Drafter if you bully my jokes! then you'll be sorry! ;_;

>>30282120
>>30282125
ah ok, gotcha
personally, I think it's not worth the headache, as I think piston-driven stuff is overall better than DI, no interest in ARs
hehe, but since we're on that topic, you could also use the classic of classics:
>well, you see, I went out on the lake to do a bit of fishing
>but when I found a good spot, the wind kept pushing the boat off of it
>when I was trying to come up with a solution, I realized I forgot that I had these 16 paperweights in my bag from that time I bought them and forgot about them
>being of inventive mind and decisive character, I realized I could fashion a great anchor out of them using my trusty paracord keychain
>next thing I know, the boat tips over, the knot on the paracord slips and I go tumbling into the water
>thankfully my porcelain miniature kitten collection was in a waterproof bag that floats, and was largely unharmed
>but.. no mater how much diving I did and how hard I looked, I could never find those paperweights ever again, oh well

>>30282173

There are blueprints for the PPS-43 or PPSh floating around. I always figured an enterprising lawbreaker could just hire a half dozen machine shops to mill up the different components if they were really that intent. It isn't like guns are really that hard to make or buy even in total ban scenarios.

>>30282272
It would be fun if we could get decent repros of old submachine guns.

Has there been any mention of stricter gun laws due to the orlando shooting in the states?

I remember some australian anon saying it was getting even worse there and was wondering if anything here is going to get worse

>>30282566
Besides the typical lefty news rag posts, no. Hardly anything at all. Though that AR petition has even less chance now, if such a thing were even possible.
>>30282272
One of my goals is to learn how to rapidly churn out decent Sten clones and stockpile a ton of ammo. Shit goes sideways, I'll churn 'em out, fill a few mags per and slap em on with duct tape, rent a van and spend a night leaving them everywhere, all over the city and surrounding towns. Especially at the local crown land where I know local /k/ommandos go. I'd also like to buy me a crate of SKSes and a crate of nuggets.

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>>30282566
if Americans do something substantial, we will follow
>like another anon said, can't let anyone be more progressive and liberal than us
if not, then us reacting to what they didn't react to seems an over-reaction, so probably not

>>30282566
I know Australian government has talked about it, but ours hasn't said anything, though the usual rags are going on and on about it.
>>30282617
AR15 petition was slapped down. "RCMP are da smarterest at gunz."

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>>30280138
Hell even if it is prohib everyone and their dog has an AR meaning everyone and their dog would then have a PPAL for whatever class of rifle the AR becomes prohibited with.

I hope they'd include some cool shit in the order..

>>30282646
Nothing we can't already buy. Remember that if you have a 12.4 you can't buy 12.5 stuff and vice versa. Anything that got prohibited with the AR-15 would currently be non restricted or restricted. There is no possible way it's a win.

How can these "standards" be allowed to exist? Misinformation, no sources, biased language, and outright lies are the best they have to offer their readers now?

http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news/vancouver/2016/06/14/bc-mp-petition-to-loosen-law-on-orlando-style-rifle.html

>>30281060
There have been 2 horror stories.
1 was a retard and was forcing the action shut after it was jammed up causing it to not lock-up properly.
2 was a guy who accidentally had some really hot powder in his reloads causing a pressure spike.

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quebec right now:
>"you shouldn't ban pitbulls! they're not dangerous at all if the owner is responsible"
>"more gun control! no one can be trusted with a gun!"

>>30283881
Just read the article myself and currently in the process of explaining to anyone interested in my office why this NDP MP is wrong, and the real reasons the AR-15 is not being used by hunters.

What are the restrictions for a permanent trunk gun? Must the car be under my name even though I'm the primary driver? Nobody else can drive the car except for me while it is in the trunk?

>>30283881
>Report Error
>Type: Factual Error

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>>30284335
>the french have more control over animals than inanimate objects

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Hey guys, these are back:

http://www.hical.ca/grizzly-12ga-8-5-shotgun-w-bead-sight/

I just got mine in the mail today and I'm working on a joke project involving making the locomotive from payday 2 with it. Modded of course.

>>30267254
I've got a Chiappa Little Badger that I find is alright.Great to have in the backpack.

>>30281443
Shit dude... That really sucks, I'm super sorry.

Like the other anons were saying, maybe it'd be nice to put her up on display. Just to remember her.

>>30285914
Payday screenshots of build or it didnt happen.

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>>30281443
don't bury it in the ground, it's still a piece of your family/Canadian history

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>>30286088
This is the build I'm working it on

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>>30286243
And this is what I got so far

>>30282617
That was my idea you thieving kike next time i see you at seb im sueing the shit out of you

>>30286262
Ive cc'd one of those before, shoulder holsters for them suck i wouldnt reccomend it. Got rid of it cause i was carrying it to much

>>30286262
Noice

So. Serious question here, chaps
My refs just got called today for my RPAL,
1) how long will it take for it to get sent to the CFO and stamped?
2) since I assume AR15s are gonna be facing a ban soon enough, but my budget is SUPER tight (wedding, career change) would just picking up an AR lower mean I own an AR15? And therefore get grandfathered in if a ban happens?
3) assuming 2 is yes, would that allow me to purchase more AR15s in future?
4) assuming 2 and 3 are yes, what is the cheapest friggin lower available? What are some decent ones?

>>30286302
Must be a pain depending on the stock, if you have one.

>>30284157
Both of which are obviously user error, not the gun's fault.
>For any reloaders here, the second incident was from a user accidentally putting 24 grains of Titegroup in a casing.
>>30284894
No such restrictions. Just keep it NR and unloaded.
>>30282633
That's not right. The government should be obligated to hear it, at least.

Also, all this sloppy reporting is pissing me off-now Metro is pulling the same card, saying that they want to LEGALIZE THE ORLANDO GUN NOW OMG!!!
I know the timing is deliberate, but there has to be a way to shit on these rags for doing so.

>>30286388
Put a pistol grip on it theyre fucking ridiculous with them

>>30286377
1) Depending on how far you are from Ottawa 1 week+
2) Yes the lower is the firearm, stripped lowers can be had for $70-100
3) Probably not but doesn't hurt.
4) Areo precision stripped lowers but i would spring the extra dough for aluminum over poly

>>30286505
So, even if buying a crapola 70 buck lower gets me a PPAL, it would only allow me to have THAT lower? Not purchase more lowers?

In that case, I'll ask here before heading over to /arg/ to ask the same...
What is the BEST stripped lower available. So one could nab the best possible platform to build an AR over time, with only a minimal initial investment?

>>30286561
No if it gets prohib im saying all ar-15s would be grabbed no grandfathering. The only reason this hasn't happened yet is theres a metric shitton of them.

>>30286561
Best stripped lower is kinda doesn't exist. Most milspec 7075 stripped lowers will get the job done just as well as any other. The only thing that would set them apart is if you wanted say a colt rollmark, or skeletonized for 3 gun and some companies might have shit QC.

>>30286617
Every other firearm, including full autos have been grandfathered. Why on earth would you think ARs would be any different?

>>30286648
I see... so if it were really just about QC, colt would make the most sense? SIG?

>>30286274
I gotta snap a shot of that 500 with the full-length rail at Seb sometime. Would make for a good HD build.

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Any good gun shops in the southern ontario area, near Toronto? I look on the websites for shops near my town and they never have anything i want.

>>30286491
Metro, 24 Hours, Globe and Mail, they're all no better than toilet paper desu.
I have no idea why being a journalist isn't seen as being on the same scum-tier as being a laywer, used car salesman, insurance rep, or politician.

>>30286737
Not every, just the ones banned in 86' (12.2, 12.3) and 95' (12.4, 12.5, 12.6) everything after has just been taken by the government.

As for best CQ I would say Colt, DD
not sure on SIG they seem to make shitty AR-15's.
and not to say that they are bad but low end would be Norc, Areo, NEA, PSA

I'm interested to know-how do my fellow syrups intend to deal with a ban? I have some Restricteds, and I have no intention of giving them up, but they're registered, and it'd be hard to fake a sale with no transfer record. I just don't like the idea of getting shit on if they swing by to snag my Restricteds and all I have is some sloppy excuse about Mike from Canmore.

>>30286821
One JUST opened in Ajax
Soon to also be a range. Firearms Outlet Canada or something similar.

>>30286923
They want treat me like a criminal ill act like a criminal, the best damn criminal, full autos and pocket pistols for all, not only that ill train everyone and anyone in making guns and explosives so if i go to jail is doesnt stop.

>>30286869
Well hopefully there is just too much out there for them to consider not grandfathering then.
Is Daniel Defense that good? I see Wolverine pushing them all the time and just kind of wrote it off as all sizzle, no steak.
Might get a DD and like, 5 norcs.

>>30286923
I live on a lake in the middle of nowhere...
It wouldn't even really be an excuse. I lose shit in that damned lake every fucking week. One day I'm gonna rent some SCUBA kit and find SO much lost shit.

>>30287038
DD as complete rifles are really top quality builds. Just look at US review sites.

Lol why does Elizabeth May think that an AR 15s tiny wimpy little 223 REM would blow up a deer? Does she honestly think that a fudd's bolt action 30 06, with nearly 4x the energy, would somehow do less damage to a deer?

Is she completely ignoring the fact that the SKS, one of the most popular non restricted rifles in Canada, fires a round that's almost twice as strong as the 223 in a semi automatic sequence like the AR? What makes her think that a ar15 would allow Canadians to murderously slaughter furry creatures in the woods? Why does CBC keep mistakingly calling the AR an assault rifle? Do they not know that assault rifles have select fire which is strictly prohibited in Canada? Do reporters even fuckin Google their terminologies before publishing something?

It's surprising that hunting is even allowed in Canada in the current year with all these grocery shopping urbanite warriors making up the majority of the populace. The zeitgeist is shifting to a digital era where people are getting more and more sheltered from the natural world. Kids born now will become the weakest generation both physically and mentally. At least they will be the most educated lmfao.

>>30286505

Where are you finding 100$ stripped lowers?

>>30287140
Some place last week had 7075 Aero lowers on sale for 100.

>>30286491
>That's not right. The government should be obligated to hear it, at least.
They heard it, and the day after Orlando, they announced they wouldn't reclassify the AR15, and classification should be left in the hands of "experts".

>>30287140
>>30287161
and its still up for $99
http://www.saskatoongunworks.com/aero-stripped-lower-black-gen-2/dp/1923

>>30286923
The Liberals won't be able to afford a massive gun grab with their current spending strategy. They'll leave this country with Trudeau 2.0 magnitudes of debt.

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>>30287162
fucking muslims and liberals reeeeeee

harper too, if he hadn't screwed the pooch so hard we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place

>>30287222
Harper didn't even screw up that hard. He just wasn't progressive (being a conservative and all), and wasn't super charismatic. The only things he did that were super bad, the Liberals have also signed up on, like C-51 or the TPP. It doesn't help when the "trustworthy" state broadcaster is running a nonstop smear campaign and there are well funded astroturf effort to vote "ABH". The election was a joke and idiots fucked it all up. Towards the end all Harper had to do was say "decriminalization of weed" and he would've won.

>>30287269
He had to stand by his foundations so he couldn't cave into the weed. Harper was the hero Canada didn't deserve.

Thank you Harper for giving the Rangers new rifles. They were using 1950s rifles before you personally visited them.

>>30287162
Not surprising.
>>30287123
Actual facts don't suit the lady's rhetoric, Anon, only banning things they don't like.

>>30281382
i'd personally keep them as wall hangers if that sounds weird.

>>30287162
>Literally admitting they are not experts and should not have any say in firearms re-classification

Remember this for later when they try to reclassify a firearm without "experts" opinions.

Remind me again why he put reps from womens groups on the firearm classification board?

>go innawoods
>see a bmw
>Asians shooting
>ask them if they are legal
>they moonspeak and show a PAL

Why do we let Asians get guns legally anyway? All they do is shoot people in gangs or shoot bears for gall bladders. Why do we assume they won't do this when they keep doing it over and over and over

>>30287657
Congratz for being that asshole that goes around asking peoples personal information. If its not your property then fuck off.

>>30287690
civic duty , better than calling popo

also my lgs has a whole website link in moon runes , i wonder what secrets they keep from us

>>30287690
Canadians really need to wake the fuck up right now and stop defending Asians before they own drive this country into an unaffordable developing country.

>>30287657
Chingchongs do it for the bear paws too, but if they're driving BMWs, I'd expect them to just be rich kids and urbanites who are just having fun.

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>>30287657
>ask them if they are legal

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>>30286923
All I got is a TT-33 and an SKS, so you could say I have little to lose, but even if I had a Daniel Defense 3,000-dollar AR, I'd hand it over just the same as my shitty Tokarev
>I would raise a lot of stink, write blogs, donate to pro-gun lobby organizations, petition my MP, etc.
but at the end of the day, breaking the law for your hobby, in any form, just isn't worth it
>everyone who talks about Mike from Canmore and boating accidents is lying to themselves
I mean, they make for some creative jokes, but in reality, you know the cops will see through that shit, investigate and shit on your with a pile of charges, even if they don't find whatever and wherever you stashed away -- again, not worth it

>>30286923
Dunno with restricted ill probably give em up, if chance happens anyone breaks into my house ever ill be taking a few off the registry if you know what i mean.

NR ill bury a few, sell the rest before hand and I have a few sacrificial ones that ill hand over.

>>30288382
>I mean, they make for some creative jokes, but in reality, you know the cops will see through that shit, investigate and shit on your with a pile of charges, even if they don't find whatever and wherever you stashed away -- again, not worth it

I know people that never even bothered to get a PAL when the FAC was phased out.

Nobody is going to use the boating line, but if you think people won't turn in their restricted firearms but keep a couple in the attic you're simply delusional. Confiscations never work out as intended. They simply can't chase down every "Mike from Canmore" story, and search every house from top to bottom across the country. There are just too many gun owners.

Based upon import figures, Australia got rid what.. 20% of the targeted firearms when they instituted their ban?

A ban isn't intended to remove guns from the public, it's intended to shut down shooting as a hobby and marginalize it politically. Doesn't matter that people still have an M305 buried in the back 40, they can't shoot it, can't share it with their kids, and can't openly identify as a recreational shooter or collector. Getting every single gun isn't important because they're playing a long game where the remainder just rust away into nothingness.

>>30288555
>>30288382
>giving them anything
You people are why they think they can take our stuff in the first place, they treat you like a criminal and you just passive aggressively dismiss it? Fucking stand up for what you believe in and fight what you think is wrong. Punishing the entire law abiding population cause of what criminals Democrats and religious fanatics do is wrong and it should be fought at every corner, they won't stop until everyone, including you are 100% reliant on them, then tjey can get away with anything, its happened before and will happen again and if you think it cant happen to you its already to late, but im just crazy and definitely looking for violent confrontations with police and dont deserve rights cause you dont agree with me most likely.

>>30264886
What's the status on E111?

>>30288671
If I didn't have a family it would get physical for me but that's not the case. I'll still do whatever is in my power to stop any threat against firearms.

>>30288718 See >>30275323

>>30288671
when I see posts from people like you, I feel like I'm arguing with a poorly raised child that believes everything can be resolved with a good tantrum
>fight
what exactly do you mean by that? I said I would do my best to prevent or reverse it by writing to my MP, donating to lobby groups, raising stink about the injustice of it in social media and so on.

are you going to die in a shootout because you will not give up your glock for shooting paper targets? I have a surprise for you: you can't enjoy the shooting sports when you're dead! are you going to protest in some other stupid way that will become a sensational news media story that will justify every infringement upon the law abiding firearms community in one felt swoop?
any sort of "fighting" you are alluding to is going to lead to a loss for you and to an aggregate loss for the community because it will make everyone look bad. changing the system from within, by legal means, with information, education, donating to lobby groups (putting your your money where your mouth is), and getting public opinion on your side, is the only way to get positive changes that will be long lasting and don't put anyone in danger

Any South Ontario ranges that you can bring your own weapons and shoot for the day for a fee without needing a membership?

>>30288836
>changing the system from within, by legal means, with information, education, donating to lobby groups (putting your your money where your mouth is), and getting public opinion on your side
>fight

These are all positions on a continuum. They aren't mutually exclusive. As with everything, at some point working within the system may end up impossible, and at such a point protesting in open defiance of the law is the only way to get the point across.

By the time they ban semi-autos, it's already too late to work through the system. At that point the only way to get your point across is protesting and non-compliance, exactly the same way people have been protesting marijuana laws since forever.

>>30288836
I can enjoy peace and tranquillity when im dead at least i dont have to worry about fascism

>>30264886
joining the canadian military, hoping for armoured soldier. what can i expect?

Just passed the CSFC, wish me luck. I'm torn between a bolt action or SKS as a first rifle. Can anyone weigh in on pros and cons?

>>30265123
This is exactly breakfast this morning

>>30289153
Bolt action is better if you intend to hunt. It is far more accurate and you'll be able to fire much more powerful rounds. A savage axis with a decent scope can cost up to 700 dollars in total so keep that in mind.

I wouldn't risk anything larger than a mule deer using 7.62 39

>>30289153

It depends upon which bolt action you're talking about, really.

>SKS

pros:

semi-auto
inexpensive
durable
reliable

cons:

poor accuracy
can't mount optics easily

>"bolt action"

pros:

more accurate
.30 cal options will be better for hunting large game like Elk/Moose/Grizzly

cons:

ammunition will be more expensive unless you buy something chambered in .223

>>30288382
Eh, I'm looking into it now. I'll lie, cheat, hide and steal, whatever it takes to keep my Restricteds after any bans.
You think I don't give a shit now? Wait until they try taking my guns.

>>30289236
>implying you wouldn't be one of the first to take our guns
Thank you for your service Tok. Keep our streets safe, one post at a time.

>>30289264
Joking aside, that's why I never could be RCMP. I like guns and the shooting community too much, and I'm not very compatible with authority and bureaucracy. I'd get real pissy if they told me to confiscate guns.

>>30288836
>implying people give a fuck about some "ebil racist white old dudes" having their firearms taken away
>just letting it happen if it does happen
Its like you want to live in a society that is perfectly secure in every way and doesn't allow any form of fun beyond binge drinking and smoking the PM's memes.
I'd hope everybody has their own mental "line in the sand".

>>30289312
Not saying you AREN'T RCMP, but I kind of hope this is the case with many RCMP officers.
Most of the cops I know are very pro-gun, and would likely "get sloppy" if they spot a gun related infraction. And when the RCMP was breaking into houses at the floods, apparently the Armed Forces guys doing rescue work and ordered to help them drew down on them when they realized the RCMP were up to no good.

A total ban would be an entirely for show political move, as I suspect it would be VERY difficult to get more than 50% of law enforcement on board with doing anything to enforce it.

MFW a police captain friend of the family was the one who urged me to get my PAL/RPAL. Says every home shluld have a firearm for home defense. Preferably a shorty 12g by the bedside.

>>30289916

Except you can't discharge that shorty 12g if someone breaks into your house.

If you do, you're the criminal and will get charged.

>>30289949
Welp i would get +1 kills and free room and board for a few years,

>>30289949
I'd rather take my chances protecting my family than to have them raped by Big Chief Smack Dick.

>>30289977
Don't forget food!

>>30289949
False. You absolutely can shoot an intruder. Canada has castle doctrine.
The only argument they have against that is "was it legally stored".
Legal storage of an unrestricted firearm means any locked container. You could have a thumbprint lock on your bedside table drawer, and as soon as the front door crashes, you grab it and load it.

Section 35 of the criminal code notes that defending your property does not constitute an assault if those on the defensive believe on reasonable grounds that someone “is about to enter, is entering or has entered the property without being entitled by law to do so,” and intends to steal or damage that property.

Know your rights. We have castle doctrine.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/vancouver/2016/06/14/bc-mp-petition-to-loosen-law-on-orlando-style-rifle.html

If you feel like getting angry, read this article.

>>30290051
I think anon means if there is prohibition on firearms.

>>30290051
"By court ruling in 2011, a resident is permitted to use "reasonable and necessary" force in subduing an intruder in his or her private domicile or business. By definition, killing the intruder is only an option if non-lethal means cannot be carried out, and excessive force with obvious intent to kill is not necessarily defensible in court."

Not at all.

>>30290051
Btw, we have Harper to thank for that.
Slipped in as a tiny subcategory of the Common Sense Gun bill was a bit that boiled fucking pages of ambiguous bullshit about self defense down into basically "You can fuck them up if you think they're gonna fuck you up"

That was a great bill. Lets hope the Libs don't cuck it all up.

>>30290111
You're using outdated stuff.
It's been simplified.

"34 (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if

(a) they believe on reasonable grounds that force is being used against them or another person or that a threat of force is being made against them or another person;
(b) the act that constitutes the offence is committed for the purpose of defending or protecting themselves or the other person from that use or threat of force; and
(c) the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances"
And so on.

The definition of "reasonable force" excluding lethality unless all other options are exhausted is no longer there.

I urge you to look it up.

>>30290180
Ah. Interesting

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>>30267254
not a single shot, but I'm looking to get a JW25 for a relatively inexpensive .22 plinker

>>30290240
Its a bit heavier than most bolt 22lr due to it being military trainer but I haven't heard anything bad about them. If you want cheap chinese see if you can get a used Norinco NS522 they are supposed to be godly.

>>30290215
Yup.
Too bad we still have laws against unusual shotgun loads.

What I wouldn't do to be allowed some of the crazy loads I keep seeing on US-based threads. Like that weird defense 12g with the discs. Or flechettes. Or rock salt.

I live in Toronto, and perpetually worry my door's gonna get kicked in by thugs. Shit, I almost wish I lived in biker territory. At least you don't get break-ins when HA or SC are patrolling the area.

Where the fuck can I find a Vz 58? I've looked around, but only found some grim polymer stocks on a couple sites going for over a grand. I'm looking for one that's preferably cheaper and with wooden furniture.

>>30290364
Look about 3 years ago, or used for sometime slightly under 1k

>>30290051
>Legal storage of an unrestricted firearm means any locked container. You could have a thumbprint lock on your bedside table drawer, and as soon as the front door crashes, you grab it and load it.

Legally you only need a trigger lock on on a non-restricted firearm. Get one with a combination lock and leave the combo one digit from unlocking when you go to sleep.

What they will burn you on is whether it was stored with ammunition or not. If it's stored in a locked container, you may keep ammunition with it. However if it only has a trigger lock, ammunition must be stored in a locking container or elsewhere.

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>>30290297
You can get Winchester PDX1 up here. One big slug followed up by three buckshot. Basically buck and ball for the modern day.

>>30290297
The only shotgun load that's banned is flechettes. Anything else is legal.

>>30290519
Thought dragons breath was too under incendiary.

>>30290436
So put the ammo with it in a locked bedside (ikea has these) or gun beside bed with triggerlock, and ammo in locked bedside drawer with key left in. As an added bonus, get a shotgun with detachable mag. Then it's good to go in about 3 seconds.

>>30290462
I did not know this existed.
Thank you, anon.

>>30290519
Well fuck me. I just looked it up. "Explosive and flechette" are the only prohibited ammo. And tracers are banned from import but not in general.
I wonder if Dragonsbreath counts as explosive? Probably.

>>30290555
Incendiary is only banned if smaller than 15mm. 12 ga is 17mm.

>>30290584
Oh shit that sounds great time to start some forest fires.

>>30290628

Anyone in BC area wanna meet up and start some forest fires?

>>30279677
Not all AR-15 variants have AR-15 in the name.

If that was true and not yellow journalism then that means I know someone who owns 10% of all AR-15s in Canada.

>>30282010
you sound like a fudd worried that his bolt action guns will be taken away if young guys are allowed to have modern guns

fight disarmament on all fronts. the right to arms is non-negotiable, fuck your panic

>>30283881
>orlando style rifle
it's a stoner style rifle. get it right

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I swear the AR-15 petition is cursed. The first one came around and johnny jihad shoots up parliament. We get another one and johnny jihad shoots up a gay club.
house of commons = gay club?

>>30290749
Okanagan here, just go to Kamloops and throw a cigarette into the brush, you'll torch the whole fucking city.
Preferably Kelowna though, fuck Kelowna.

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>buying handgun on cgn
>Hi, EMT to @mail.ru
>I am waiting for Your PAL, address, full name.

>>30290969
Bail out harder than Lance Armstrong after steroids.

>>30289194
>bolt action being more accurate than semi
>semi can't handle powerful cartridges
>7.62x39 is underpowered on whitetail
wew fud. make up some more bullshit, why don't you?

>>30290981

I'm going to do it. It's like $300 off new, and the guy has solid feedback.

>>30291066
Fair enough, hijacked account might be a concern.

>>30289916
But I'm not, damnit. I know it's difficult to prove, though. I'm trying my best.

Also, cheapest spot to get 17/10 Glock mags for my G34?

>>30290111
That's older, there have been changes to the relevant laws since then. If you shout out (or claim to) that you want them to surrender, that you have a gun and/or you called the police, then you've attempted reasonable non-lethal means of ending the situation. If you can say in court you felt your life was in danger (IE I "thought he would kill me, your honour" every time they ask) then you can use lethal force to defend yourself.

Is the Mini 14 a 5 round gun only or are there magazines that can hold 10 which are legal in Canada?

>>30291480
If there is a pistol version of the rifle, such as the LAR-15, then magazines marked for the pistol version can hold 10 rounds in a rifle. I don't think that it's an option for Mini-14s unless you alter the magwell to take STANAG pattern magazines.

>>30291525

Oh you can do that? Interesting.

>>30282646
>Hell even if it is prohib everyone and their dog has an AR meaning everyone and their dog would then have a PPAL
Yes, because that's exactly what happened when the CZ 858 was prohibited.