CCing a full-sized handgun

>>30254916
Yup. Full size 1911

You're going to print harder than the New York Post printed anti bush covers
But it's doable

>>30254916
Does anyone here CC a full-sized handgun regularly?
yes
Is there anything wrong with doing so?
you need a good holster, a good belt, and the right clothes

I CC my CZ 75 in a shoulder holster with no printing when im wearing a light jacket.

>>30254916
It can't effectively be done any way but AIWB carry. And only if you're skinny.

I carry a Glock 19 AIWB and it works only because of my flat stomach. If I had a beer belly it'd just print like crazy.

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glock 17 most of the year.
it can big a bit to handle if youre trying to conceal it, but with the right holsters/clothes set up ive seen people carry comically large pistols. Just make sure you have a good belt and jacket really

>>30255003
lies

I CC a Browning Hi Power OWB 8 out of 12 months of the year under either a jacket or flannel

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>>30255052
I'm interested in OWB carry, seems a lot comfier + maybe quicker to draw from. Printing/flashing not an issue at all?

>>30255003
>Full size
>Glock 19
Manlet pls

>>30254983

>CZ
>Shoulder holster

Are you that one tripfag that does the same?

>>30255072
No printing if you wear a coat or something along those lines. If I bend over too far then my jacket will ride up and show the bottom of my leather holster but it blends in with my pants, and that is easily remedied by just squatting instead which is what you should be doing when carrying anyway. I prefer carrying my BHP OWB over carrying my PPS IWB simply because it is more comfortable.

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FNX9. Currently using an ayy lmao gear 3.0 to CC it, and it works, but Damn is it a large holster. Looking at options for something a bit more slim.

I'm also a bit of a chubster, so that definitely helps, since I can just toss a big shirt on and be good to go.

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>>30255103
>that is easily remedied by just squatting instead which is what you should be doing when carrying anyway.
Good point.

Got pics? I dunno, I have a hard time picturing it working out without a long, fairly heavy cover garment, probably closed in the front. Trenchcoat sure, untucked oxford probably not.

>>30255194
Gimme a sec, I'll take some

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I appendix a P99 70% of the time and a PPK when I am dresses light or just don't feel like it. It's not hard if you do it alot, just get a good holster. I just use galco gun leather for everything and feel I would probably enjoy it more if I got something custom, but it werks.

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>>30255035
How is the 17? I'm thinking a 34 with light like pic related as my next CC, if I can get a company to make me a vertical shoulder holster for it.
>So sexy

I carry a 1911. If you have a good belt and holster it won't print. The weight never bothers me, but it every time I stand up I have to pull my shirt down or else it will get caught in the grip. I have to be more cognicent of my gun than if I carried a compact. Doable but there are better options.

>>30255262
If you're going to carry something that big why would you carry 9x19?

>>30254916
>carry a full sized
yes. I carry an eaa witness in small of my back.

>anything wrong?

I'm limited as to where I carry on my body (hate small of back carry -- too slow for me), and it makes me look like I have Khoisan ass in the wrong clothes. it's also hard to sit in certain positions.

specific to the gun: I also have to wear undershirts because the hammer spur is pretty rough.

otherwise, I don't really have any issues.

>>30255294
It's not that much longer than a 17, and same frame.
Although I have been tempted to just trade it for a 17. But the 34's slide matches most good lights so well. Decisions...

>>30255262
34 might be pushing it. Im pretty tall at 6'1 and its cold a lot here so I wear jackets. I worry its protruding but that might jist be in my head. I havent had anything happen yet. Im not a skeleton either, I have a mediam body builer look, but again its all about the belt,jacket,pants combo. the 19 would be easier but I like the 17 more
Id suggest a shoulder holster for something that big though

I'm a skelly who appendix carry a G19 and never print because appendix carry is best carry.

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>>30255201
Thx anon

>>30255304
Sounds like a pain, can I ask why?

>>30255291
I also carry a full size 1911.
Iwb.
I need a better belt though

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>>30254916
Depends on whether its a double stack vs single stack if semi auto. Clothing and body type come into play much more, as well as carry position. Find what's the most practical, comfortable and most importantly safe.

>>30254916
Yes, M&P9 full size, 3:30. Buy a Stealthgear onyx and enjoy the advantage of a full size pistol

>>30255394
I was planning on a shoulder holster, wether I go for a 17 or 34. Just can't decide which.

>>30255457
>>30255475
This makes me want to get a shoulder holster for my C96. Too bad only 10 rounds of 9mm

>>30254916
you'd have to be a burly 6'5 motherfucker to hide a full size gun

>>30255475
>implying that wouldn't print like hell in motion

These images prove nothing.

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>>30255084
No, that would be me.

>TFW interested in C&C since I have a valid permit to do so
>Can't think of a reason to bother with since I am either at work or at home for most of my time

The only times I go out are my weekly bar night, the gun store for supplies, or to my family's place. I open carry at the range but that's all.

>>30255506
>you'd have to be a burly 6'5 motherfucker to hide a full size gun
Oh, so there's hope.

Too bad I have flab, though.

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>>30255416
1/2

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>>30255529
2/2

Its cold 75% of the year here, so normal old flannels are about as thin as I go with long sleeves and this North Face jacket is about in the middle, and when its colder obviously there are thicker coats that make it much easier to conceal. When it's too hot to wear anything like this (three or four months out of the year) I'll carry a Walther PPS IWB no problem with just a T shirt

>>30255492
>ccing a weapon with any value

What happens if you have to use it and the police confiscate it?

>>30255511
well sorry I don't have a video montage of my everyday life.
for what it's worth I wore that exact setup for over a year while working for a company that didn't allow employees to carry and had zero problems

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>>30255574
Neat, thanks. Flannel works better than I would have guessed.

>>30255576
>ccing a cheap piece of shit

What happens if you hate to use it and it doesn't fire?

>>30254968

If you find this is true you're either a massive fatass too big for any XXXXXL shirt or don't know how to properly conceal a gun

>>30255003

I cc a 5" 1911 and 4.5" M&P 45. Easily. 3:30-4:00 with a stiff Beltman belt, 15-20 degree cant, and low ride.

>>30255604
It's all about the colors and directions of the lines as they help camouflage any bumps from printing. Some that I have work great for that, while some not so much.

I cc an SR9 appendix carry. I wear button down shirts over an undershirt, which hides most printing issues I've had so far. Not many problems, just waiting for my alien gear 5 o'clock carry holster to come in, although I think I'm gonna print way more than with what I've got now with the alien gear. 5'8" manlet body

>>30254916
Just bought a Canik tp9v2 and had this same question

>>30255003
this. I cc a Glock 19 every time I do it makes me realize I need to lose some weight.

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>>30255576
>live in the Detroit area, heard second hand of several acts of lawful defense with a firearm (which happens a lot here), assuming you're not charged or found not guilty, your firearm is returned within 3-6 months.

>if you need to use your firearm to save your life, the firearm is the least of your worries.

>9mm conversion, new barrel, reblued, new markings, collectors value is trashed but its functional which is why I bought it. Probably isnt worth much because of all that.

>>30255613
it functions quite well.

>>30255457
id say the 17, but im biased
if the 17 is a niche gun the 43 is a REALLY niche gun. If you cant handle carrying its its a range toy, the 17 is a little more versatile

>>30255475
Jeez, you can CC anything with a shoulder holster.

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>>30255775
>>30255811

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>>30255833

Is Galco King-Tuk basically the go-to IWB for the newfag C&Cer?

>>30255727
Is the 17 really """"""niche""""", though? To me, it's just the basic Glock.
I just want to use my bedside gun for CCW, and if I find a company that'll do a holster for it, I think the 34 w/light would be fine in a vertical shoulder holster.

>>30254916

I carry a Glock 21 daily. It's not particularly hard to hide but then I'm a fat fucker sporting the tactical muffin top. That makes it easier to hide a gun.

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>>30256016
to most people the 19 is the "perfect" glock for its size, where as the 17 is a bit too big and more of a duty/ collection/ I only want a glock 17 to say I have a glock 17 gun
where as if somebody says they want a glock, most will just say get the 19.
so in this sense its more of a niche gun. I personally dont think so and think its underrated but like I said im not a fan of the 19's size

>>30256076
I carry a glock 23 or a walther pp daily.

my 23 is the same frame as a 19 and its nice as all fuck.

>>30256092
ive been dbeating about getting one
I kind of want a .40, but I already have the 17 so I dont want two full sized glocks, especially since I can get a barrel conversion and ditch the 17, but I like it too much
hows the recoil on the 23?

>>30254916
my dick is big enough to where I don't need to compensate with a full-sized handgun on me at all times.

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>>30256076
I can appreciate the 19, but I can easily conceal a 17 due to my height, and the fact that I intend to rock it in a shoulder holster like my Tokarev. Just unsure if it's a better idea to downgrade to a 17.

What do you think, Anon?

>>30254916
I conceal carry a full sized USP. It doesn't really bother me, especially in the winter when I have heavier clothes on. I do think the grip is long though, so I'm always worried about printing, or having my shirt get caught behind it. Whoever I'm at Kroger or something and I need something from a low shelf, I'm always making sure my gun doesn't show. I'm probably going to get a subcompact because of this. Looking at the P30sk, or maybe I'll wait until the VP9sk comes out.

>>30256330
between the 19, the 17 and the 34?

the 34 is IMO the least versatile. its a great gun to shoot with its a competition gun. so if you find you cant cc it then its just a range toy

the difference between the 17 and 19 is marginal. Most will say get the 19 so you can use the 17 mags and theres no arguing its easier to conceal, but if you can get the 17 Id say go for it. I am biased though. the 19 is just small enough where I cant shoot it for very long without getting uncomfortable, but I can rock the 17 all day long and therefore im more happy shooting it

its not like either one are though. you can pick them up at anytime. I specifically like the 17 because of my height, location and I can comfortably get away with it

Used to carry my g17 owb but hot damn I hated having to dress around the gun and being constantly mindful about showing and printing. Didn't bother with trying iwb and I just bought a subcompact and haven't looked back! My two cents.

>>30254916
requesting the infographic of 1911 tiers

>>30255629
isnt it actually harder to print if you're larger? just because of how loose your clothing usually is at that weight

>>30255775
why dont most people use shoulder then? is it because of draw time or ?

>>30256811
Need to hear some kind of open front shirt or jacket. Can't zip up jacket without compromising accessibility. Gun can flash if the wind blows back your jacket.

>>30255723
>confiscated for 3-6 months
is this any different for other states? does your gun HAVE to be confiscated in the case that its used?

>>30256475
It'd be between the 17 or 34.
If I trade for a 17, I'll be simply running it with night sights. If I keep my 34, it'll be night sights and an X300 Ultra. Either will be in a vertical shoulder holster.

I guess all I can do is go to my LGS and handle them side by side.

>>30256863
It's typical, which is why you don't drop 5k in mods on a carry piece.
Stock glock19 was 430 out the door for me, so I carry that specifically knowing that it'll work when I need it to, and it's easy to go without in the case of police evidence.

>>30256950
id get the 17 then, but the 34 is nice too. Again, these arent rare guns so you cant really go wrong

>>30257002
Yeah, I love the 34, but I keep getting the
>It's MEANT FOR COMPETITION, NOT CARRY
comments. I don't see why 0.82in of extra barrel and slide and a better trigger invalidate it as a carry gun. Like I said, I'll probably compare them side by side at my LGS and decide.

>>30257272
I here the same about my glock 17 and ill admit its noticeable but manageable . really anything at or around the glock 19s size is the "perfect" size for guns these days. it you can run a 34 ill bet you wont regret it if youre in a shooting

>>30254956
what holster you use?

i have an alien gear iwb but i cant really sit down with it

>>30256232
its not as bad as i had thought t would be. I have a 9mm barrel for it too so get both worlds.

>>30256811
It's slower than drawing from the waist, and you need clothing to match. You could do a shoulder holster under a slightly loose t-shirt but it would have a terrible draw

What is the single most powerful gun that a person is legally allowed to concealed carry?

>>30258244
>legally
Depends on the state. Most states where you can carry don't have restrictions on what you can carry. If you can conceal a .950 jdj rifle up your ass you could legally do it.

Under a jacket you could probably carry a large bore revolver (like .500 S&W) or a small pistol-rifle (like a Draco AK)

>>30258272
What do they consider "concealed"?
If you look like a retarded hunchback because you've got a rifle strapped to your back with a coat slung over it, but people can't actually see the weapon itself, does the license cover it?

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who /5'7" 110lb/ here? what do you carry for a smaller frame? I like the mak but it's heavy for cc

>>30258292
That's really up the police and the judge. But if somebody notices it then it probably won't be considered concealed, and something really outlandish like that would be considered open carry.

>>30258356
Non american here, what is the logic behind "you need a permit for CC but not for open carry" in some states ?

>>30258474
>what is the logic behind [insert law here]
probably idiocy

>>30258534
At least you can carry weapons outside your home

sadpepe.jpg

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Quick question, which is a better handgun: Sig p220 or HK usp 45 ?
Buying whichever /k/ says tomorrow morning. First handgat.

>>30258474
a desire to restrict armed citizenry in spite of
>the right of the people to keep and BEAR arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>30258550
I'd get a steel P220 with single action trigger and thumb safety
otherwise USP 45 with thumb safety

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Is there a gun that offers a better combination of power and small size than this one?

>>30256330
But Tok guy, you're Canadian, you can't CC that :^)

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>>30258577
how new are you?

>>30258593
Sorry, I forgot to qualify with "not bolt action."

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>>30258597
I'm pretty sure 500 magnum shits all over 7.62x39 ballistics from a pistol
bonus points for actually being comfortable to carry and easy to conceal

>>30258610
>easy to conceal
Do you exclusively wear clothes 5 sizes too large?

>>30258637
It'd certainly be easier than concealing an obrez or a Draco.

>>30258637
>>30255475

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>>30258645

>>30258650
Just wear a jacket everywhere you go, in the middle of summer.

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>>30258674
yes

also >>30258645

>>30258610
Just checked Wikipedia, apparently .500 S&W rounds carry more energy than even 7.62×54mmR.

It just feels weird to me that any handgun would be able to pack more of a punch than a rifle at the same range.

>>30258703
how does .50 AE compare?
asking in advance in case he pulls this card >>30258597 on the 500 not counting for being a revolver

>>30258724
Highest energy for .50 AE is 2200 J, highest energy for the .500 S&W is 3901 J.

I don't think having to pull a hammer is nearly as bad as having to chamber using a rifle bolt.
And anyway, they make double-action .500 S&W revolvers, right?

>>30258314
>dickgrips

>>30255416
>why?

poorfaggotry plus I like 15+1 boolits plus I hate subcompacts.

>>30258272
>scrawny white gets grabbed by a mugger
>pulls a .500 magnum and clears out the inside of the muggers' skull
>"feelin' lucky punk?" he mutters to himself, chuckling at his own autistic one liner as the blood slowly runs out of his right ear canal

>>30255506
Fuck off retard shit piece. Newsflash faggot cunt, skinnier people can carry bigger guns. The fatter yo get, the harder it is size wise to cc.
Carry a gun before you talk about carrying a gun.

>>30258580
>Imblying :DDDDD

But seriously, 34 with light in a vertical shoulder rig. Too big/dumb idea for CC?

>>30255847
>that power-stache
kek

>>30258669
What jacket?

>>30254916
S&W K-frame with a 4" barrel, IWB, one o'clock, all day, erryday.

>>30260114
>check filename
source is 4chan: every day is repost day

>>30260181
And I should add, this is Vegas. Triple digit heat. Still doable.

Does anybody have holster recommendations?

I know Alien Gear gets shilled a lot on /k/, are they really good? The price is certainly attractive.

What about OWB options? Who makes a good pancake style holster?

>>30260248
http://imgur.com/gallery/9yGzq

I went to a local guy and like the result. If you're not nearby, he's got a wall full of blue guns to work from.

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I CC a ruger sr9e. It's full-sized. 17+1. I'm a pretty slim (5'11, 160lbs) and I have absolutely no issues. Just get a good holster. I highly recommend Alienware, they make stellar holsters.

>>30260329
I'm retarded, meant Alien Gear.

Also forgot, make sure you have a good belt. Like, a really sturdy one.

>>30257508
>>30257272
As someone with both, the 34 is slower to draw and also heavier in the holster. The adjustable sights are sharp as fuck on the 34 also. Get a 34 if you want a super awesome comp gun, even a 17 can wrek in comp, but 19 and smaller is better for CC. Or get a 17 to cc I'm just an anon.

>>30258314
You have cute hands anon.

>>30260319
>http://imgur.com/gallery/9yGzq
Oh, holy shit. Wrong link.

http://www.z2hgear.com/

>>30257528
This might be a dumb question, but have you tried fiddling with the cant on it?

It might work at a steeper angle, but then you might be sticking your beaver tail out... it can be tough if your body shape isn't just right, some people have trouble with compacts.

>>30260390
No, I appreciate the response. So you think the 34 is just too big for CC? Guess I'll go compare it to a 17 and see what I think.

>>30258314
I wanted to carry a mak, but for the life of me I couldn't figure out a way to carry it where that damned lanyard loop wasn't somehow stabbing me when I moved

>>30260414
I mean if you can cc a 17 you can cc a 34 because the grips are the same size, but its not optimal for carry, unless texas stars attack you alot. A 17 is the biggest I'd carry, or a 20.

Speaking of printing.
How do some criminals hide Mac-10s without letting everyone within eyesight know about it? Mac-10s are basicly boxes

GP K100, on hip IWB, started carrying an extra mag in single mag holder. I wear a t-shirt over it, and I'm skellington-mode. Nobody spotted me yet.

I might consider a smaller gun one day but I'm functioning so far. Sometimes I do feel nervous if I don't test a shirt beforehand, but the most important thing is, people don't know, they won't notice. Don't overthink it.

>>30260466
Wait, if the 34 is as CCable as the 17, why is the 17 as big as you'd go?

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>>30256811
Most people don't wear suit jackets any more. Or suspenders.

We need to bring it back.

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I'm 6'5" about 250 and want to CC my Glock 20 because I shoot it better than my M&P Shield. What's a good holster including light? Dara Holster? AyyLmao? Also at what position should I carry since I'm overweight IMO? 3:30? 4:00?

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If you really want to conceal a full size learning to tuck and retain without a holster is the best way to conceal.

Im always carrying two pistols in regular clothing, not sweatpants and a long t shirt.

It requires you to get comfortable with the way the gun rides and learn to loosely and casually swag when you walk so the gun rides with your stride and doesnt print.

Your homies will laugh at you a little while youre getting used to it and constantly adjusting or even maybe dropping your guns but eventually they just feel like part of your outfit.

>inb4 reeeeee you should use a holster.

kys pls. Middle class types who follow police wisdom and the self defence hivemind think nobody can tell theyre packing.

I come from a culture where you dont want nobody to know what you got. Having to be mindful of who around you is packing in the hood means even james the janitor and felicia the crackwhore can spot concealed weapons.

The streets learn from .mil types who come back home knowing how to kick doors and move in teams. You all would do well to learn from the streets how to hide your heaters.

T. Nigger

>>30260496
34 is heavier, longer barrel does make the draw harder, sharp sights. A 17 is massive for carry but thats the largest grip/barrel length I'd be comfortable with, the 34 is just too long, 19 being pretty much optimal, or even a 43 for summer carry.

>>30255518
Hey man did you ever get an HTC 10? I'm posting from it now, it's decent

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>>30254916

what do you do if it's Florida and you wear your shirt tucked in with shorts?

>>30260544
do you use a trigger guard holster? are you just tucking it into your waistband?

>>30260753
Get an alien gear holster that let you tuck your shirt in.

Or wear shoulder rig with a Hawaiian over shirt.

>>30262024


that must really slow your draw if it's tucked in eh?

>>30258314
me! I was thinking about a Mak but I'll probably save up for a sig p938 or something striker fired.

>>30258770
>>30260423
Get the hogue rubber grips