Middle East Thread "POST Su-24 EDITION"

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To unconfirmed reports crashed Su-24. When starting its rocket stuck on the pylon and exploded. Pilots ejected.

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>Martyr harmful Khaski town Alsrskah spent the day battles countryside north of Latakia.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PIUNZbf2Z8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o19K8BSvOZA

>>30178695
Someone in Iraq must have read the last thread, I can't believe we had people shilling how good the Iraqi army was and then the Shia militia said they were fucking off from fallujah. It's like the Shia militia read it and said "ok if they're so good they got this, not like we've been doing most of the fighting or anything"

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http://agencyvideos.pw/v/tms05062016.mp4

>>30179161
it doesn't hurt to try!
any idea where i can find all these IS produced videos? they have some good combat footage

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>>30179243

>Oldies but Goodies

https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22a3maq%22&sort=-publicdate&page=2

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>>30179310
just what i was looking for! thank you!

>>30178695
Well, damn, me and MAndic started your own threads, with only some minutes apart.

I gonna copy and paste the reports from my thread here, and say to let my thread alone until it gets archived.

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-As the SDF/YPG is getting nearer the city of Manbij at every hour, ISIS starts to prepare the city population to defend their ground.

-In Deir ez Zor, things are looking ugly for the SAA and friends as ISIS have captured the Al-Tayyim Hill, ilustrated by the video of the SAA soldiers apathetically fleeing under fire;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPN_XlfiAgI [Embed]

Also reports tha a Russian cargo plane parachuted four pallets of arms onto the SAA Deir ez Zor military airbase. And that one SAA General Sulayman As'ad Khudour was killed in action. ( I dont consider the source from this last one, Malkomite, very reliable)

- In the Ithriya-Taqba/Raqqa Highway front, things are going better for the SAA mix of forces racing to Raqqa. Pro SAA sources report that they have captured Bir Abu al `Allaj, 11km away from the Zakia crossroad, early this morning, and now there are reports of the capture of Bīr Ambaj, following east. According to SOHR, ISIS lost contact with 35 of their fighters defending the area.

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Pro Kurdish sources are claiming that the SDF/YPG have reached the Dadat village and the Jarablus-Manbij Road, blocking the way between the two cities.

About the downed plane in South Aleppo, the Rebels are saying that they already captured the two pilots, near Al Eis, and they are now in the hands of Jaish Al-Fateh. But still no pictures of them.

>>30178695
>limited breakfast of salad, rice cakes, duck fat, and champagne.
might as well be a banquet for most norks.

fucking fat shit

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Sometimes the YPG impress me the most, with some the shits they come with.

Almost forgot the link for the old thread:
>>30138073 →

>>30179351
Why would you use this shitty thread, when yours was far better?

i thought this is probably the best place to ask this
did the IS acid executions really happen? and if so, why isn't there video of it?

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>>30179621

>>30179371
I am so confused at the first video, what the hell is hapepning?

>>30179643
There is apparnetly a video of it, or at least I've seen screenshots and a friend claims to have it saved, but I can't post it :/ Haven't seen it myself

>>30179621
Generally, is Mandic who start our threads, I only started the new one because I thought he wouldn't' do it today, so we would already have one for the monday reports.

I dont mind using Mandic threads, and this threads is already more active. Also, to avoid double Generals one of the parts needs to cede, and again, I dont mind it.

>>30179689
SAA/NDF soldiers retreating while ISIS fighters shoot at them.

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>A top Syrian Kurdish commander has died, several days after sustaining injuries during a US-backed campaign to unseat Isis from its Raqqa stronghold.

>Abu Layla, who commanded a brigade inside the predominantly-Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), was hit by sniper fire on the outskirts of Manbij, an Isis-controlled area which is key to the supply route between the Turkish border and Raqqa.

>He was evacuated by US forces to a hospital in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Sulaymaniyah, where he died.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/top-syrian-kurdish-commander-abu-layla-killed-by-isis-sniper-fire-a7066651.html

>>30179873
little grey men

>>30179779

> Also, to avoid double Generals one of the parts needs to cede, and again, I dont mind it.

Props.

So, was there every any more information on who accidentally the Russian airbase?

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>>30179873
This remembered me that the Manbij Military Council stated that now they will call the Manbij operation under the name 'Martyr and Commander Faysal AbuLeyla'. YPG have this costume of giving their operations/offensives the name of recent important killed fighters.

SDF also found a ISIS warehouse that produced fake weapons "in an attempt to mislead coalition aircraft", in Abu Qalqal.

>>30180038
>So, was there every any more information on who accidentally the Russian airbase?

Didn't heard nothing about it. What happened?

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>>30180254

https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/discerning-damage-crucial-syrian-air-base

Should the West even consider kicking Turkey from NATO for good? Or should they give them a time out of the alliance, kick their asses, replace Erdogan's government with a more secular one that won't interfere with their operations and with the Kurds.
>http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/it-time-expel-turkey-nato-14518

>http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9300670.html

>http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/03/kick-turkey-nato.html

>http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/11/12/no-chance-turkey-will-be-kicked-out-of-nato

>https://www.aei.org/publication/turkey-in-nato-no/

>http://rumiforum.org/allies-turkey-nato-us/

>https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/nicolai-sennels-kick-turkey-out-of-nato

>>30180254
Russian airbase got hit, lost some hardware

>>30180305
It is impossible to replace Erdogan with anything other than a clusterfuck of genocidal ethnic armies. See: Syria, Iraq.

>>30180305
>Should the West even consider kicking Turkey from NATO for good?

Why should the West weaken itself specifically for Russia's benefit?

>>30179873
>dat pic
Boy is it FLAT out there. I never realized

>>30180490

>Fuug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0L1wbM5BM

Anyone have the link to all isis edited videos?

Reinforcements inbound to the SDF front in Manbij.
Official theme of the MAnbij offensive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgQEuPw942c

>>30180566
https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22a3maq%22&sort=-publicdate&page=2
this?

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>>30180302
>>30180319
Oooh, this. Nope, no news have appeared about it much on it after the Russian MOD denied that it was ISIS doing, and nobody commented about it again.

The latest news from near Palmyra is that the SAA is trying to advance east of the city, again, and captured some grain silos.

My last reports for the day:

-Markito (believe it or not) reported that ISIS retook Bīr Nabāj from the SAA, who took the village early today, in the road that leads to Raqqa. It could be just Markito coming with shit again, but who knows. Ivan is saying this is bullshit.

-Bonsjo is reporting that Rebels made big gains today near Damascus, as they captured some 14 locations from ISIS, and are about to take Bir Qassab.

-Pro Rebels sources are saying that Rebels are making more gains in SOuth Aleppo, but nothing really clear until now.

-Al masdar (Arab Source) write an article saying that Hezbollah (the Original) have almost all his contingent in Syria stationed near the capital Damascus, and that they are not present in Aleppo anymore.

-Hassan has reported that 11 rebel groups in Syria, to revive the original idea of the now almost defunct FSA, have formed the "Popular Deterrence Forces" in Turkey, lead by SAA defectors officers. They will be led by Maj. Gen. Mohamad Fares, Maj. Gen. Mohamad Haj Ali and Brig. Gen. Zaher Saket. Good luck with that.

To end, if you remember wel, ISIS took a Iranian Safir 4x4 with 106mm in Khanasser, some months ago. The same vehicle was now seen fighting the Rebels near Azaz. This goes to show that what ISIS took they really redistributes, and don't necessarily stay with the local ISIS forces that acquired it.

>>30180603
Looking for the over edited propaganda videos, these are raw material

>>30180302
Damn, Russians got wrecked, how is this even possible?

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>>30180302
https://desustorage.org/k/thread/30050601/
12 days later, Google maps now features the base in map mode instead of the previous blank space and updated the images in satellite mode. You can see how they now bother dispersing their helicopters, and how they haven't bothered with dispersing their planes, because apparently planes are immune or something.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/34%C2%B031%2723.1%22N+37%C2%B038%2739.4%22E/@34.529899,37.643676,789m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d34.523078!4d37.644285

>>30180676
Well they are trying at least, its the thought that counts

>>30180663
right, well i'm looking for those too actually

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Powerful and terrifying voices be heard the first time in the city of Aleppo, where the shaking of E. western neighborhoods and East ... It is coming from the targets warplanes northern countryside (Hndarat camp - Castillo Road - Bani Zeid - Shqif) and violent battles southern countryside on Marath front and Humaira.

Tu-95 has been seen over Aleppo today.

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>>30181085
>Tu-95 has been seen over Aleppo today.
I want to believe

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>>30181116

>Almost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B2JAkX8K84

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It's midnight here in Syria and pro-regime Russian fighter jets are dropping vacuum bombs on residential areas of Aleppo.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0uqhoJvxNs

What happens when the Not-Assads reach Damascus?

>>30180676

That Google map picture is clearly from pre-strike time since there's no way the place would look so clean less than a month after the strike.

>>30182905

Where are they getting their raw materials? Where is all that steel plate coming from?

Is Australia supplying terrorists with plate steel?

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SAA to Raqqa

>>30180676
It's either pre-strike or they lied about pulling out their SU-25's.

>>30182923
>Where is all that steel plate coming from?
>Is Australia supplying terrorists with plate steel?

how many bongs have you smoked today?

>>30182923
M8, you've no idea how many tonnes of steel plate there are everywhere in dumpsites, random houses etc. All you have to do is put a decent price on them and people will start finding them for you.

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ISIS Dabiq brigade training
Is that some kind of Multicam Gorka they're wearing?

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>>30185943

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>>30185947

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>>30185947
>>30185943
>>30185968
this?

>>30185977
It looks like it, but the colors on the ones they're using look brighter. Like they're using chinese airsoft knockoffs which wouldn't be suprising

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>>30185977
that sure looks like it

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>>30185999
>three nines
nice Mozambique

>>30179371
that video reminds me of the SAA.. or was it a pro assad militia? walking that 7km from that hospital to friendly lines.

>>30180302
It's already over a week that this has been debunked.

>>30181978
what do you mean by this? there are rebels/jihadis that have been in the suburbs of damascus since the start of the war.

are you asking if theyll take it? barring something insane id say thatll never happen. IF somehow they took it and anyone was stupid enough to stay they would be executed or made into slaves

>>30186273
Some anon screaming about pixels is not the same as "debunked", anon.

>>30186346
not that anon but there is too little information about it one way or the other. there are 2 pictures and one side saying it happened and the other side saying it didnt

>>30186243
does anyone remember the name of that hospital that was under siege btw? or where it was?

>>30186372
If i recall correctly, even the russians said "something" happened, just not an attack. Something that makes sense when ISIS isnt even bragging about it.
And then you had the completely retarded conspiracy-ideas of US ninja-bombing a couple of helo's for some reason

>>30186404
i never heard that theory kek and yeah im pretty sure it was an accident involving fire, ammunition stored openly and probably a drunk russian or 2. isis would talking it up so hard if they actually pulled that off, there would even be a slick video or 2

>>30186482
Wonder what would be hardest to admit, incompetance in ammo handling and fire prevention, or base defence?

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>>30181116
The Bears are coming

>>30186376
Jisr al-Shugour.
It was a complete disaster, so they tried to make the best propaganda with the couple of guys tht actually made it through.

The "good ending" for a hospital siege was the Kindi Hospital in aleppo, there the relief forces broke through and ended the siege.

>>30186825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGyrRAqB5PM

allahu ackbar

>>30186404
>>30186482
>when ISIS isnt even bragging about it.
>isis would talking it up so hard
But they did.
It was even mentioned here in the threads, but noone took it serious at the time (and isis themselfs had probably no means to confirm direct hits or how much damage they caused; its not like they could fly a drone over the base)

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Up early posting early.
New map of the Manbji offensive.
Deir Ezzor SS saying that 6 Ruaf aircraft have been doing bombing runs on Deir Ezzor all morning amide heavy fighting too.

Gopro footage of fallujah street battles and close quarters hand to hand combat when

Claimed legitimate reporter based in Erbil, Iraq tweets ISF has lost 251 troops around Fallujah in THREE days.

https://twitter.com/FlorianNeuhof/status/739715143999860736

If true this is insane. Can you imagine how much shit would be flipped if US forces had lost that many around Fallujah even on a longer time scale.

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>>30187028
There were no street battles. Just one-sided slaughter, as daesh was completely overwhelmed by the heroic iraqi army or fled in sheer terror.
Our most valiant soldiers have now stopped the offensive to allow the last poor kids to get evacuated and give the enemy rats time to surrender, which they surely are doing right now after having whitnessed just how outclassed they are. Everything is fine and well, insh'allah.
#PrayforIraq #StrongUnifiedUndefeated #ShiaPride

>>30187093
Also all of Fallujah has been liberated as Iraqi generals give entirely truth based facts of the powerful unstoppable Shia ....bathed in light!
#Shialove#Shialife

Did /pol/ call in another airstrike few days ago?

>>30179113
Yep

Ignore shills. The Iraqi army has the full backing of the US military for 2+ years and still can't take back its nation from the real-world equivalent of tusken raiders.

>>30179873
Ahhh little green men

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>NDF promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J0hK96KttY

>>30180254
Hahahaha I just have to admit, terrorist groups are some ingenious bastards.

Supposedly in 2000, NYT and some military analysts went to Serbia and uncovered the fact that nearly 90% of US airstrikes hit faked/broken vehicles or equipment during the 1999 campaign.

This is in stark contrast to American claims in 1999 of a 90% kill rate on operational targets.

>>30180302
This has been debunked as far as I have read.

It was not an ISIS attack either way.

>>30180618
Oh wow. ISIS takes what it gets desu.

>>30185943
Wew they are better armed and trained than most of the Chinese/ASEAN soldiers.

>>30186841
Jisr that's right, I mean it was more than a few, it was about half maybe a bit less

>>30186852
They would have seen and heard the ensuing explosion lmao.

The reason the picture is suspicious is because the helicopters and exploded trucks were so far apart.
The rockets that would have hit them, would have had to have hit both areas to cause such a chain reaction.

There's no confirmation from America other than a fire on the T-4 base.

>>30187041
Jesus christ.

If it wasn't for America's bombing in Fallujah (that we still deny) the ISF would never have a chance.

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Nothing much interesting to report from Syria, until now.
The SAA forces racing for Raqqa didn't move today., and according to Ivan the last place they took yesterday was Abo El Alaj village, and didnt advanced any further.

I read what some of the anons commented about the use of armor in this desert area, comparing to the Homs region, against ATGM equipped ISIS, but I think both are diferent cases; both are deserts, but Homs was full of hills and moutains that could serve as good spot to duck hunt SAA armor and vehicles. Raqqa is almost totally flat desert area, for what I can see in the maps and photos posted, making the ATGM more dificult, I think.

The real problem with SAA advance into Raqqa, it's that seems they are only securing the highway and the immediate surroundings of the advancing force. Of course that the majority of the areas around the road are just empty deserts, but if they dont take care, ISIS forces could not only attack their flanks, but also get their rear and cut off the supply line of the "SAA Raqqa tour" convoy.

>>30179983
>>30187889
Except they're fighting ISIS, a common enemy of the entire world.
Not illegally invading and annexing part of a fucking European country.

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Anyway, here's a image of how things should be turning around with the Sirte offensive, in Libya; The logo of the little man holding a flag, left side of the map, are the Misrata Forces, but I really not certain about the two shields in the right lower corner.

The Ghardabiya Airbase was listed as disputed between ISIS and the Misrata Brigades, two days ago.

There are clashes in the Saadi camp, south of Sirte, between ISIS and the Misrata. And clashes are still being reported in Benghazi, between the LNA and ISIS.

>>30188320
The Russian , Iranian , SAA commands seem disjointed to me. They are going in separate directions. Do they break the Deir siege? Race to Raqqa? Battle for Aleppo? Finish Ghoutas? They can't make up their minds.

Also what are the SAA tiger forces doing in Aleppo anyway. I haven't seen Col Tiger's face since Shaer.

>>30188320
History note : The German were surrounded in Stalingrad because their flanks were secured by roumanian units (they were good but were badly equipped).

>>30188408
5 star I'm just as confused as you, I've been trying to follow what the saa is going to do and sometimes it changes by the day

>>30187961
I would say the US denies bombing Fallujah. They release their air strikes for public consumption and Fallujah has been hit by heavy US airstrikes but other than that I agree with you.

>>30188447
wouldn't*

>>30188408
SAA is scared that YPG will take the entire raqqa area.

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Picture from IS attacking north of Baiji today in a large raid. Spray and pray is funny but ...
>Abu, your emir let you have two assault rifles?

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>>30180302
>this poor nigger cant see that the left two helicopters were copy pasted

>>30188406
It doesn't look like their franchising is very successful.

First IS in Libya lost a lot of ground around Sirte and Bani Walid to Government of National Accord forces since last month; they even lost Derna months back. Then IS in Yemen barely holds any territory outside Lawdar and the Shabwah countryside. Their only successes are at the Sinai, and that's on a preexisting allied rebel group that has been fighting long before IS' adventures outside Syria/Iraq.

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>>30188484
The rest of pictures are good, posting some of them.

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>>30188546

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>>30188554

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>>30188572
Only posting one dead body

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>>30188586
A hind was around too , finish posting

>>30188586
Dude drank too much water

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>>30188586
Is that fucking Kel-Tec RFB?

>>30187041
How many of those were PMU or Iraqi police though?

It looks like a lot but they are taking back an entire city, and ISIS has been losing the same amount if not more men.

We all knew it would be a meatgrinder.

>>30188586
That's a Croatian VHS-2 rifle by him

>>30188638
the magazine doesn't look right. the RFB uses FAL mags

>>30188347
>Except they're fighting ISIS, a common enemy of the entire world.

Lmao no

>Not illegally invading and annexing part of a fucking European country.

Syria's internationally recognized government did not invite them.

Nice false equivalence.

America denied that we were so involved until after the photos confirmed it. Same as the Crimea situation.

>>30188447
But we literally do.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/23/us-airstrikes-advisers-back-iraqi-forces-in-offensive-to-retake-isis-held-city-fallujah.html

>>30188642
This is horrible nimbers for a group with the full backing of 400 coalition airplanes.

>>30188755
I corrected the sentence in the next post here , please read more
>>30188452
thanks for backing my statement with sources

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/739855544601743360

Video is a Jaf VBIED today that blew up a Iranian command building near the Khan Touman front. It's a smart move to target command and control. It leaves them directionless.

>>30178745
saving this for later use.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3GZEGdUzBA

>>30188408
>>30188436
>>30188476
I can't say I know exactly what the SAA is doing but I think that when it comes to Raqqa they'll stop at Tabqa and consolidate/fortify their gains and simply blockade Raqqa from northern Aleppo/Turkey, until 1-2 years from now when Raqqa siege begins.
They did it now to synchronize their attack with that of the YPG/SDF and maximize the effectiveness of both of them as its harder for IS to defend themselves from a two sided attack than it is to defend themselves from a one sided attack.

>>30178695
how do fsa troops survive in numerous pockets?

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>>30188484
Oh shit does that sandnigger have a FAMAS?
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That's too good for him!

>>30188914
Calling that a targeted strike against command position is like calling the Hiroshima bomb a limited strike. They blew up the command, ammo storage, barracks and anything else that had a good fortune to find itself in hundred meters radius. Also a nice firework for first day of Ramadan I guess.

>>30188768
Not really.

Hence why I asked how many were militiamen or conscripts who tend to die quicker especially in high conflict zones like urban assaults.

>>30189457
The sad part is they haven't even begun the urban assault. They still have not breached the city of Fallujah. Honestly I thought they would at least get close to the city center before IS would start their last stand with such a large numbers of troops coming at them. Those idiots can't even manage that.

Attack on Jordan Intel Office Kills Five, four agents and a receptionist.
The attack took place at an intelligence office near the al-Baqa refugee camp outside of the capital city of Amman.
IS is suspected but as of now it isn't clear who the perpetrator of the attack were or what their modus operandi was. (Probably a combination of small arms and suicide bombs)

>>30188642
Kek I'm not so sure Isis is losing equal number

>>30188642
Also those are from a raid near baiji not fallujah

>>30188914
its in khan touman, i thought they capped it a while ago.. smart move no doubt

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Some good news for the SAA, from pro SAA sources, to report:

- In the Raqqa deserts, Ivan reported that the SAA mix have captured the little village of Khirbat Zaydān, putting them now only 5km away from the Taqbah crossroads and Safaiyeh oil field.

-Arab source is reporting that the SAA was able to take back the Tal Tayyim hilltop, in Deir ez Zor.

- In the east of Palmyra, Hassan ridha reported that the SAA have taken control of 3 points east of al Kaziyah, and are now less than 10km from the Arak gas field.

Here's a photo of the Abu Leyla, SDF commander killed by sniper fire near Manbij, funeral in Kobani, where you can see some SDF commanders. The little gramp with the fab beard in the middle, is the deputy commander of the Jaysh Thuwar al Raqqah.

>>30180302
Russians got blown the fuck out, wtf

>>30189284
bribe, smuggle, tunnel

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>>30190427
only in the land of photoshop fantasy
>>30188528

>>30180302
looks like munitions got set off and just daisey chained the helicopters
what a bummer

>>30190427
US intelligence community believes that it wasn't an attack by ISIL per say, but an accident. However, there were reports that ISIL launched a GRAD arty strike near where the air base is located, so (my opinion) it might be that the ISIL rocket attack might have lead to the accident that took out the heli's. Either due to the fact that they were rushing to refuel the helis before the base got hit or because a piece of shrapnel hit the refueling trucks.

>>30190482
even the Russians reported the incident. Its not a matter of if it happened, but how.

https://www.rt.com/news/344254-russian-helicopters-isis-syria/

"Meanwhile Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency reported, citing a source at the T4 base, that that the helicopters were damaged as a result of a fire at the airfield."

Who knows, we'll probably find out once the war is done or if some Russian leaks the incident report.

In other news, YPG have taken the town of Jubb Al-Kalb Kabeer to the south west of Manjib while YPG in the north are at the outskirts (can see the city from their positions) and the units to the east are still advancing down the M4 highway.


Fighting is still ongoing in the southern Fallujah district of Al Shuhdda and reports that a mass grave was found in Fallujah.

>>30190546
This is what I was thinking, looks like an accident and the munitions got lit

>>30190546
>even the russians reported the incident
did you bother to read the first line of the article that you linked?

>The Russian Defense Ministry has denied reports that Islamic State militants destroyed four Russian helicopters at an air base in Syria’s Homs province.

At any rate, the stratfor photos were fakes, at least in part so we dont have any reliable source confirming anything

>>30190561
russians say they were SAA helicopters destroyed when they retook the base

the only indication that russian helis were damaged was the faked stratfor photo

>>30190561
Yeah, like one anon said when it happened, Ivan slipped on a banana peel, dropped a steel drum of gasoline right on top of a flint rock causing a spark which exploded the helicopters, one after the other. One of the rotors flew over to the supply depot, straight through the bunker and into a stash of mortars, causing them all to explode straight up into the air, drop down, pock-marking the entire base, putting holes into the Mig and leaving only ashes behind where the depot sat and the [photoshopped?] helicopters were stationed

>>30180302
Did those Jets get disabled as well? Or was it just the helicopters that got destroyed?

>>30190595
>when they retook the base
The syrian government never lost Tiyas.

>>30190582
they reported it happened, but denied that ISIL was involved in the destruction of the aircraft.

You're confusing my opinion of what happened with what the Russians have stated. I never claimed that the Russians acknowledged ISIL's involvement, they simply stated that something happened and that the heli's were taken out.

Hell, it might be that those are old heli's that were taken out a while ago. Again, we won't know for sure until either the war is over, third party observers look at the base for whatever reason or someone leaks a report (the latter two are unlikely).

>>30190582
So far RIA and stratfor claim Russian assets were lost on the other hand RU MD claims that everything is going OK, one group makes its living selling information to corporate sources the other losses battalions in neighbouring countries and kills 10,000 ISIS members in Latakia.

>>30190615
At least one Mig gave up its hold on the Machine Spirit

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>>30190637
>>30190482
>>30188528
>>30180302
in addition to the obvious shooping, a bellingcat article from june 2015 shows the clearly shows that the four blast marks were there a year ago

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2015/06/29/fortress-t4-an-airbase-at-war/

>>30180302
>Russians in charge of airbase defence

damn

>>30190781
I am convinced, its fake. Whole world units to make Ru look bad. Clearly a conspiracy just like the time Turks moved their airspace in front of Su-24

>>30190827
>whole world

nah
the only people making the claim are ISIS, Stratfor, and a bunch of dumb fanbois on 4chan

>>30190869
in fact, belingcat has no love for Russia and yet it is their article that proves Russia correct

>>30188528
>>30190582
>>30190781
>>30190595
>All the putinistas say shooped

What is the indication of that? It seems like Hinds lock their rotors like that whey they are parked. https://www.google.com/search?q=mi-24+hind+parked&safe=off&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1067&bih=552&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjak-TWpZTNAhVE3SwKHfLTBxQQ_AUIBigB&gws_rd=cr&ei=8eRVV-fGF4KesgHRhLKoBw

Also, IF that is what you mean with obvious shoop, what is to stop even the most lame photoshop guy to adjust the rotor when he is already messing about with the "1 degree image rotation" of the rest of the chopper.

>>30190781

Question: what does anyone have to gain from faking or denying this?

Normies won't even notice, if its faked sand niggers still get removed at the same pace, and if its true 4 helicopters lost is insignificant compared to the stockpiles of equipment the Russians probably have

>>30191012
There is none.

No idea why people think it's faked.

>>30191012
stratfor gains by getting to pretend that they generate unique intelligence, which translates into subscriptions and revenue.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/stratfor-is-a-joke-and-so-is-wikileaks-for-taking-it-seriously/253681/


>>30190966
doesnt really matter, since the blast marks were there a year before stratfor said they were, they definitely lied, no need to split hairs over their photoshop job

>>30188406
Bottom right is the PFG.

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>>30191057
>same blast marks
Except now 20 meters tall and 100 meters wide and all black, instead of just being 2 meter wide smudges on the tarmac. So it would appear that they are not blast marks at all, and so fucking small so you would have to have a brain tumor to label them as:
>the same blast marks

>>30191057
>blast marks were THERE!
Those "blast marks" show up in the "BEFORE" photos, you fucking idiot.

>>30190383
Hi R.
Seems like the SAA and friends have reached the Taqba crossroads and the oil field, but have yet to take them.

>>30191194
>I am almost completely fucking blind and can't differentiate sizes and colours.
Fuck off to Liveleak you shill. Your friends are there.

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>>30188586
>He died with a murder boner

>>30191194
>>30191170
>not noticing the helicopters got bigger in the stratfor photos too
did russians just start building them double size in 2016?
nice try

>>30191057
That's like a research professor saying he discovers a new particle. Sure he will get few more students but lose any chance of getting a research grant again. People don't lie when their word matters to their livelihood.

>>30191254
>double size
One is a helicopter
The other are the pieces of a helicopter spread over the ground. It is very hard to spot the difference from Chelyabinsk, especially when you have your head up your own arse.

Now please tell us more about pharmaceutical conspiracies and chemtrails you fkn tool.

>>30191293
Tell that to the massive amount of scientist who have released fraudulent claims and papers.

>>30191318
you sound triggered

>>30191403
>I sound like I lost

>>30191414
>he gets all mad
>starts comparing helicopters to explosions
>claiming he won

keks

>>30191458
>sees explosions now
>eyesight gets more fucked up by every minute that passes

>>30191485
>sees explosions now
>sees explosions before

>sees alleged helicopters now
>sees actual helicopters in 2015

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>>30191507
>Stopped making a semblance of sense.
>Still seeing non-existant explosions
>no-one else does

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I really dont have a dog in this whole stratfor fake thing. I posted this a week or three ago when this was a thing, but the helicopters are not copy pasted. There is no evidence that the image was manipulated. This isnt conclusive that it WASNT manipulated, but the claims that this is an "obvious" shop are bogus. The cockpit areas of the choppers dont match.

>>30191234
The "blast marks" (or oil stains, as they were) cover roughly 8 of the cement tiles they're staining in both the "1 year ago" photo and the "BEFORE" photo.

How much mercury and lead do you consume every day to get as stupid and aggressive as you are?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHtowzTvPUQ

>>30191610
>I post an irrelevant "fact"
k

>>30191619
>I got totally blown the fuck out on my argument
sorry that the "fact" makes up the "proof" you were screaming for, you stupid piece of shit. Maybe you shouldn't ask to get bitch slapped when a bitch slap is fuckin' comin for ya.

>>30191655
>based my entire argument onidentical "blast marks"
>now I label them oil stains
>I feel this BTFO someone else
k

>>30188572
M1117 In the back?

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>>30191678
You really are that retarded? Not pretending?

Holy fuck.

>>30191793
>I can't even defend my own theory anymore
>Fuck, I am weak

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>>30191060
Thanks, anon. I really dont know that much about the Libyan civil war, and generally still mistake or not knowing about the tons of groups and factions here.

When I searched for "Lybian PFG" on google I found this usefull BBC guide of the country factions, I gonna put it here for anybody ;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19744533

>>30191201
Thanks for the info, anon, but i didn't find any of it in my pro SAA sources, only this map on Al Masdar.

Only thing to report now is that early in the day Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, vowed to "actively support" the SAA with the Ruaf, around Aleppo. The statement left any reader with some suppositions; will Russia increase their airforces presence in the Aleppo region? Its this mainly because of the recent gains of the Rebels on South Aleppo or its a indirect for more air support for a new coming SAA operation on the Aleppo region?

Also, this good article about the infighting inside the Rojava and SDF, distrust between the kurds and arabs, and the PYD and KNC clash of positions;

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/06/the-war-within-the-war-for-raqqa/

>>30192054
That maps seems a bit off, because it was reported than the SAA was 24km from Assad lake, which means the tip of the advance opened up a bit, with some army units going straight north.

I guess they'll start meeting serious resistance after taking the Taqba crossroads and approaching either the highway or the airbase.

>>30187904
An Eastern European military that spent decades during the Cold War practicing active and passive survivability like camouflage and decoys and disbursement is a lot different than fatalistic dirt squirrels.

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>>30191570
If you zoom in on the known fake in pic related, you'll find difference on the scale of the cockpit. That is just a side effect of how jpeg compression and photo merge tools work

and the ELA analysis does show lighter areas
in the outline of each of the four helicopters
where they were copied and pasted

>>30192054
https://mobile.twitter.com/Oded121351
https://mobile.twitter.com/Chief_MarshallR
https://mobile.twitter.com/MENASTREAM
These are all great twitters if you're interesting in following Libya more.
There's also some good French guys if you can read French.

>>30192431
>I now pretend to be an expert in photo forensics because it is expedient for my purpose.

>IS fighters w/GoPro multiple attacks on Iraqi Army outposts in Anbar province (June, 2016)

That's a big fucking convoy 40 seconds in. Where the airstrikes at pls

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a5a_1465216342

https://warisboring.com/heres-the-key-to-understanding-the-russian-air-force-s-actions-in-syria-68aa3e4f8d0d#.oiurv4l2j

>>30192660
I was actually just responding to the guy who was pretending to be a photoexpert.

Anyone who uses mspaint on the web(eg channers) will know that editing and saving an image will create new artifacts in the image.

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>"Oldest ISIS member"

>>30193230
>Anyone who uses mspaint on the web(eg channers) will know that editing and saving an image will create new artifacts in the image.


The ela is showing jpg compression, thats what the lighter areas are. The compression is consistent along all of the helicopters. Meaning they either all were copy pasted from some place, or that none of them had been copied.

>>30192958
What the hell was that weapon at 2:22?

>>30193626
>all were copied and pasted from some place
correct, they just only had 3 unique helicopters in their source, so they copied the left one twice to get 4 helis

>>30193022
So a shill article?

Waste of my time

Been out of the loop for a little bit, but I was under the impression that the Turks made a lot of noise about bombing the YPG if they took Manbiji. Do you guys think they'll follow through? Can't imagine the roaches would be happy if the YPG united the cantons. Hell thinking about it if the YPG held the north it could make things rather interesting for the other factions in the war.

>Thread is arguing about photo manipulation
>In a /k/ thread

Good job.

>>30194334
technically, they're photos of weapons

so more on topic than the OP

>>30193022

Does anyone have that pic of a rebel with a TOW missile on top of a hospital?

>>30191617
>that music

The fuck is up with the knockoff Battlefield theme?

>>30194154
The YPG sent in all the arabs they had as the first wave and Obama convinced Erdo that Arabs were liberating it.

Constan - I mean, Istanbul has been his by a bombing.

No idea how big/where/who/anything more

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>>30196391
It's also a good way to trim the arab numbers from their ranks sending them all on front line, I'm not even mad.

>>30181169
DAT fucking drone

>>30190781
Craters are puddles? Thats possibly the most enlightening photograph I've seen about this. The shape was always wrong in >>30188528
Just couldn't understand the precision. But puddles combines with the results of a firefighting operation and ash for example.

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>>30180302
>stratfor
fuck off cunt. These bastards are considering provoking a war between the ruskis and germans

>>30191253
"Dayum son, after this jihad shiet I'm gonna get me some mad slave pussy toni-"
>gets killed

>>30197570
I see nothing wrong with hitting a reset button on vatniks

>>30197605
>I see nothing wrong with hitting a reset button on vatniks
If you want to get vatnik removed go get your own hands dirty instead of having proxy wars in europe

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>>30178695
Is he still rolling?

>>30197570
>a website/think tank
>is going to provoke a war

vatniks in full retard mode

>>30192520
Thanks, anon. I already knew two of them, as sometimes they pop up on Oryx twitter, but I dont have the habit of regularly visit them.

>>30194154
It was what Turkey always bragged about, that they would bomb the Kurds to hell if they crossed the red line (Euphrates River). But now, the chances of this happening seems to be shrinking, even more with the US SF accompanying the SDF/YPG near Manbij, doubt that Turkey will dare try their luck. Of course that the SDF didn't get to the border with Turkey and the city of Jarbulus, maybe if they get there things could change and Turkey would get more agressive. Until there, Turkey will still content themselves bombing the SDF/YPG in Afrin.

Anyway, latest Reports from the Manbij front:
-Both pro SAA and pro SDF sources are reporting the capture of 9 villages in area, today (anda a Potato factory); latest clashes reported are from near Kirsan, south of al Dadat and around Jabal Aqra/Kaber Kabir, south of Manbij.

The SDF is also dealing with a ISIS pocket between the Tishreen dam and Qareqowzaq bridge.

One of the pro Kurdish twitter sources commented that; "It seems SDF is advancing towards the Hills near Arima village, to cut Al Bab-Manbij road."

He was already correct once, during the first days of the Manbij operation, and if memory doesn't fail me, the YPG/SDF already did something similar when they took Shadadi; cutting the main objetive from all neraby allied positions that could reinforce him, so it could be.

Here's a map of the current situation;

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/87c3/mcpy9hpymlc3cegzg.jpg

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>>30180305
>Should the West even consider kicking Turkey from NATO for good?
No. I hate them too, and I wish to see thousands of Turks and Russians slaughter each other. But the cold geopolitical math of it is that Turkey hates and fears Russia, and Turkey happens to own the 1 water connection from the Black Sea to the Med.

>be American
>realize we are stuck with frenemy Oil Arabs and frenemy Turks
>commit sudoku

>>30196577
At least the guy with the pot on his head seems to have a better idea of all-around protection and looks like he has a makeshift liner in there.

>>30197648
No.

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Does anyone have specifics on current Hezbollah deployments and operations?

I read someone back here that now they are only concentrated around Damascus (not that they wouldn't be needed, god knows that place is full of rebel scum pocket holes)

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>>30198047
Per Al Masdar (Arab Source) the majority if not all their forces in Syria is now located around Damascus, as they are still fighting to clean the Qalamoun Mountains.

It could be only Al Masdar bullshit too, as recently I read that one Hezbollah commander was killed in the Raqqa front. But it's really already some time that I don't see much footage of Hezbollah operating in Syria.

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neat uniforms

Humayra in south aleppo seems to be recaptured by shia militia. anyone got an idea which villages were conquered by Jaf and which were recapped?

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I wonder how many US infantery would be already dead

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>>30198172
why is there german in the corner?
("steel-storm")

>>30198346
Apparently some German group providing news about wars in the middle east. They got a youtube channel and a facebook page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6axTxU30yo

Just a friendly reminder that /k/ is a shitting ground for egdy faggots and vatnikbot testing ground where american 'gun owners' with homosexual tendencies like to jack each other off and seriously think they can fight in a war or kill people because they have guns to shoot at bottles.
The saddest part of this shithole you call a 'weapons board' are these 'middle east threads' where most of you root for isis or 'fsa' or al nusra because your tax money went to them so they could kill Assad, but failed.
Dont bother, any of you, you dont know what the fuck goes on there, you dont know what the fuck are you shitposting about, russian troll bots are being tested on your weak minds and you are giving money to people that are paid to post and piss you off.

Then there is this turkroach >>30198257
fuck you you will die or remain crippled sooner or later

So what im saying is that you should all just stop with these threads on /k/, you have no idea what the fuck are you doing, you are useless no matter how much you like guns, nothing will ever change it.

/sg/ killed more terrorists than the entire gay squad of /k/ users that were in the military (probably because they are too retarded and risk their lives as mercenaries thinking its honorable and everyone will honestly think the bullshit they tell themselves).
You should stick to you nuttsackfestivals in the deep woods where you have sex with each other and shoot guns.

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>>30198412

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>>30198412
You mad bro?

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>>30198461

>>30198412
You're voting for Trump right?
Yeah cool, then you'll understand that you have to go back.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cQZSLDB7nI

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>>30198412

>>30198535
but this is a /pol/ thread faggot

>>30187904
they still got blown up so who cares

>>30198412
Jesus, I don't know if i'm more impressed that someone have taken his time to write all this, or that I have taken my time to read this till the end.

Why do /sg/ have such a inferiority complex towards us? From time to time they come here trying to show off.

About the SAA advance, seems like they captured the Taqba crossroads, putting them at less than 25km from the city and 20km from the airbase.

No words about the oilfield next to the crossroads though.

>>30198228
there'd be a few, but significantly less than the losses the Syrians orIraqis have taken

>>30198400
I haven't watched it yet but will.
I am reading something I found on reddit here on the battle of Fallujah
http://www.niqash.org/en/articles/security/5286/Extremists%E2%80%99-Tactics-On-Fallujah%E2%80%99s-Frontlines.htm
Some key points
>there are estimated to be between 700 and 1,000 IS fighters still in Fallujah
My same estimate in my Fallujah warmup
>During the first week or so, the IS group’s fighters did not initiate any clashes and withdrew from the suburbs into the city centre
That is why I thought the Iraqis/Shia would make it close to the city center initially even if I thought they would be stalled.
>A combat battalion, named the Uzbek Battalion, is now fighting the Iraqi army; it has about 300 members from places like Chechnya and Uzbekistan
I noticed in several Fallujah videos these IS guys looked like pros. Maybe they are Chechens mentioned. They are running the defense too. Echoes of Grozny.
>Another surprising discovery were a series of secret tunnels that the IS group apparently planned to use to encircle attackers
dem tunnels
>The IS group also seems to have better snipers than the Iraqi army
As seen in the Shia gunner shot in the lungs video
>Now it seems that the battle for Fallujah will be long and hard –it is also clear that all parties will need to cooperate
Playing out how I thought it would.
>>30198684
I don't pay sg any attention. They are welcome to post here. All sides welcomed.

>>30198412
Let me guess, you just came here to brag about the new airstrike?
Congratulations if it actually happened

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>>30198400
Nice!

>>30198412
If any of you from /sg/ actually managed to find coordinates and russians actually bombed those locations, you have every reason to brag.
But you dont have to be mean.

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>>30198412
>mfw this thread's mere existence is enough to trigger /pol/ cucks enough for them to post shit like this

>>30198400
pgood video I guess. Not much shooty, but more iraqi squabbling. That wild west style vigilante justice is interesting to say the least. As was the ISOFs complete lack of faith in the operation bringing peace to the area.

>>30199137
i feel like a lot of my /k/omrades understand how pasta works

>>30198412
Jesus you cunts are so easily triggered.
P.S you never bombed shit.

>>30198145
http://www.albawaba.com//news/longtime-hezbollah-commander-killed-clashes-syria%E2%80%99s-aleppo-province-849318

Also Hez is still around Aleppo. This story says one of their old guard guys was just killed somewhere in Aleppo I am assuming on the southern Aleppo front.

>>30199360
Again with another top Hezbollah commander killed in the last couple of days while Israel relaxes. I don't think they are in any shape to fight Israel in the foreseeable future. They have taken lose after lose of their best guys, people that have proven themselves fighting Israel.

>>30199407
I wonder if this will embolden Israel enough for them to conduct military operations they otherwise wouldn't

I assume Hezbollah has enough of a recruitment pool in Lebanon to supplement the loss of around 1000 in the time span of 5 years?

>>30199509
They have a large Shia population yes, and Syria helped them out in the civil war

>>30199407
You could look at it that way or you could look at it as the organization as a whole just got a shit ton of fighting experience and weapons

>>30199477
They already are. Their bombers are allowed to hit Hezbollah targets in Syria with tact Russian approval.
>>30199509
I think you are missing the point here, Hezbollah isn't running out of people , they are losing their skilled people. People once thought untouchable.

>>30199526
I guess , also wasted resources and medical bills for all their injured. It's like the police watching two gangs fight each other. Whoever wins doesn't matter.

>>30199010
I would say they are welcome here but the /sg/ fuckin shits get these threads 404'd so they can make like a tree and get the fuck out

>>30199553
Well a lot of aid is flowing from Iran so idk how much they're shellin out but I get your point

>>30199535
J post today claiming an Israeli airstrike on advanced weapons stored in Homs in which the Syrian air defense saw the bombers coming and did nothing about.

Israel is shitting on Hezbollah.
https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/740244727337910274

>>30189351
It's a VHS-2

>>30180302
anyone know what is responsible for the bluish coloring on the stratfor images?

google uses digital globe too and the shading is completely different. I thought it might be from different times of day, but I checked and digital globe's high res satellites use sun sync orbits, so they always pass over the same area at the same time of day

so i feel like the google and the stratfor images should look pretty similar

they don't

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>>30199635

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Un oh, Partisangirl is waving airshit around....

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al nusra use some kind of night scopes

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>>30199931

>>30197659

Your Fatnik is showing.

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>>30200063

>>30197659
>not knowing that a think tank can provide the government with strategy papers.
>calling people that are against the US vatniks
friend nobody likes the US.

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>>30197904
>he 1 water connection from the Black Sea to the Med.

So?

Everyone knows that Constantinope should be returned under European rule, and the only ones able to do that are Russia.

If you side with Turkey, you side with the shitskins and child-molesting Mohammadan heathens.

>>30198257
>AT team
Im not sure if what they hit was a tos though. The explosion was too big

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>>30198412
look at how mad this nigga is :3

>Muslims

>Modern warfare

Pick one.

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>>30198412

This desu.

/SG/ is superior.

Too many Mudslime-enablers and Cuckservative Neo-Cohen Fatniks on here. This plays has the same foul odor of wet ass that you get on Barfcom.

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>>30200207
This calls for a purge

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>>30198412
This is hilariously accurate. I like this board, but it definitely is full of faggots and weaboos and overall cringeworthy autists that wear womens clothes and unknowingly eat each others cum. You're all pathetic, but entertaining nonetheless.

>>30199931
What vid of hers?

>>30200179
trap

>>30200207
I enjoy the separation. Feel free to go back if you feel it superior.

Dig up more information about Hezbollah losses on wikipedia with some some variations on losses, from the minimum to maximum speculated losses are 1247–1400-1500-up to nearly 2000 along with 5000 wounded

>>30198412
The reason the /k/ thread is shit is because it's tainted by the toxic politics of /pol/. I don't see any discernible difference in /pol/ shitposting here and there. /sg/ just happens to move much faster and demands way more attention to find anything worth reading.

Hey /sg/
It's already over. Victorious Assad and Putin are walking together, holding hands in blinding light as the only hope for the future of mankind.


Back on subject. Viva revolt is claiming the SDF/YPG/US "advisers" have entered Manbji city from the northeast. 15 US airstrikes there today.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/740272514568454144

>>30199695
Are they wearing moo-moos? Are they terrorists or pregnant women?

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>>30201063
low res map, the SDF/YPG are entering from the northeast

>>30198412
This is the first time i got angry and hurt from some shitpost written like it only wants to insult me and nobody else on the planet.
I will copy it and study it further

>>30201110
A terrorist organization made up of pregnant women

>>30197904
So what about removing Erdogan from power amd replacing him with a more moderate government

>>30201063
>>30201131

Holy fuck.

Granted, they're getting American air support, but I didn't expect the SDF to pull off what amounts to a near-encirclement of Manbij in just over a week. it's the kind of lightning advance IS was able to do in 2013-2014. I'm just wondering why IS is so half-assed about maintaining a buffer to a strategic city.

Once the IS pockets are mopped up, what will be left to watch is whether the IS defense of Manbij holds or fails.

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rate my FAMAS

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Jesus has arrived

>>30201482
looks like a navy saluting gun with an extendo barrel

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VBIED Pilot

>>30201576
He's like: WITNESS ME

>>30201576
>my name is ahmed and this is the disappearing car trick

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>>30178953
Is that arab Tom Clancy?

>>30201229
It's cause they don't have enough manpower to hold everything, they pushed all their assets into taking Azaz and defending Raqqa because they had to call the Kurds on their bluff, and now they're getting fugged by USAF and are cut off from moving any considerable amount of reinforcements into the area.

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>>30201229
Now other sources are backpeddling a little bit saying the YPG/SDF are just northeast outside Manbji in the little suburb/green area.

https://twitter.com/kovandire/status/740312857716371456

Manbji could be defended from the inside. Like you said we'll have to wait and see if IS wants make this thing house to house or run. I don't think US advisers would opt for a large city assault yet. SDF/YPG simply doesn't have the manpower for that kind of thing.

>>30201504

>Love they neighbor my ass, its kill or be killed out here

>>30199360
>>30199407
Hez losing old, experienced meat is really a problem, for them, but if was that bad of a problem they would already had pulled out from the conflict.

>>30200892
I'm impressed for the effort. It also shows that Hezbollah probably have lost more personal with this conflict, than what they lost against Israel, back in 2006. It doesn't help that is difficult to say exactly what is the real size of the organization.

>>30201989
They are staying for the new territory like in Qalamon.

These top guys being killed in Aleppo and now Raqqa are Hezbhollah people being pulled futher into the conflict. They don't care about those areas but they kind of have too since the SAA ran out of manpower.

Two good news for the Kurds in Syria, in a more politically matter;

- First, the PYD confirmed that Kurds have gotten an invite to the next round of the Syrian peace talks, from UN envoy, Staffan de Mistura.

Finally this important major player will take part in that mess called peace talks, if it will help to improve the pace of the peace talks, or will only help to bogged down even further the dialogues, with yet another demanding faction, is yet to be seen.

- Second, Simalka border crossing between KRG (Iraqi kurdistan) and Rojava (Syrian kurdistan) has been re-opened.

I have read in other thread some YPG volunteers saying that this border being closed was probably the main reason for the YPG for not accepting much new volunteers.

251 Iraqi Forces have been killed in Fallujah just from June 2nd-4th alone
An Iraqi commander said that there are 150-200 IEDs for every 100 meters of they advance

Vice released footage on Gooden Division's Route to Fallujah
>https://youtu.be/R6axTxU30yo

Looking up in the dark sky filled with stars while on guard duty, thinking how peaceful it is, and how war rages in this same dark night elsewhere on this earth

>>30202667
>Looking up in the dark sky filled with stars while on guard duty, thinking how peaceful it is, and how war rages in this same dark night elsewhere on this earth
What did he mean by this?

>>30202667
dont be such a faggot

Earlier I went into a tangent about Hezbollah in Syria since it was brought up and things were slow but it seems the strikes keep coming.
Breaking news of ANOTHER Israeli airstrike tonight hitting weapon storage points inside Syria near Damascus
https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/740321901478879233

Lastly ITT rumored heavy fighting in northern Aleppo tonight mainly at Handarat again with a SAA offensive of some type.

>>30202252
>251 Iraqi Forces have been killed in Fallujah just from June 2nd-4th alone
>An Iraqi commander said that there are 150-200 IEDs for every 100 meters of they advance


What would a competent force do?

>>30203172
Miclic charge, blow the whole field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a52-rOC8_Zk

>>30201989
They lost about 800 in a month in 2006 vs. 2,000 in 5 years in Syria.

Their current situation is pretty bad, they're overstretched and having their own mini-vietnam. They have to stay, because the Iranians say so as without Iran there is no hezbollah.

Even after the conventional phase of the syria war ends there's still years of sectarian violence in the style of iraq ahead. Hezbollah is not going to be free to go messing with Israel again anytime soon.

And all the while, Israel takes potshots at them as Russia (who ostensibly is allied with Hezbollah is Syria) actively cooperates with them doing so.

>>30203154
This came as Netanyahu was meeting with Putin in Moscow. Obviously he told Putin at the very least or got his approval in doing the strike.

This is not the first time that Russia has okay-ed a strike on Hezbollah. They actively gave Israel intelligence on where their commander Samir Kuntar was before he was blown up.

>>30203154
https://twitter.com/JohnArterbury/status/740353604318601216

The SAA offensive is at Salahaddin not Handarat. There was fighting at Handarat earlier but right now the main action is at Salahaddin. This should be good to catch up on the next thread.

>>30203467
Smart move by Putin. Keeps Russian interests safe in Syria. Hezbollah doesn't fit in those interests, they may even be competition.

Kornet vs SAA Grad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHBHJbQLbU

>>30202252
>tfw is it the battle of Boulder city with Iraqis as the legion?

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HAHAHAHA OVER MANBIJ RIGHT NOW!

BIJI ROJAVA MOTHER FUCKERS!

>>30204371

forgot the link

https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/740307999554605056

>>30203154
What the Fuck Israel.

I understand that Hez is your enemy and all that, but geez, wait til after this war to do shit like that. The Middle East needs some stability right now, and you're directly undermining the most stable of the factions

>>30204371
>osprey flying overhead

nothing could be more terrifying

>>30204561
That's exactly what they want fool. They want nothing more than ISIS to stay in power to offset Iran/Syria

>>30205087
That's just plain depressing. To think someone would have the lack of soul to do such a heartless, but nonetheless smart thing like that