/akg/ AK General

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Waiting patiently for the RPK Bake mag

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Inb4 nick bitching about triangle folders.

>>30176213

>Not having a triangle.

Kill yourself poortaste faggot.

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>>30175663
>>30176252
guy in the last thread, I found you some steel 74 mags

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>>30176257
Posted the wrong pic.

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>>30176269
want


>dump for anon in last thread

>>30176276
Are those suitcases legal for import if someone was to find one for sell?

>>30176283
Thought it was one of those briefcases you could shoot from like the MP5 ones.

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>>30176283
Yes because you can't fire it inside the case.
I know of one for sale but it's pricey

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>>30176283
I don't see why not, It's not a stock or anything, it's just a case.

How does the handle fire it though? Cable and linkage??

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>>30176345
Just concealment no actual trigger linkage

>>30176345
nm I see it's only to deply from
>>30176342
>>30176333
>>30176321
>>30176313

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Yes plz

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/192642-wts-rare-russian-early-5-45-prototype-steel-mag.html

Paging a Mr. D.E.A.T.H., you're the only person I'm waiting on payment from for the first order. Daily reminder that if payment to is not received when the order arrives I'll sell it to someone else

Also, anyone have any extra akm kits they will never get around to building? I'm in the market for one of those

>>30176424
It'd be nice if you didn't have to be a member with so many posts just to see the marketplace on AKForum.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266581

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>>30176424
>7.62 glass filled early bakelite
That's a new one to me.
Same with the aluminium back stamp izzys.

>>30175782

That is a clean looking SLR. Nice welds and rivets.

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>>30175663
why is best Korea so based

>>30176294

You need to include this in an EDC thread. That's awesome.

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Coathangers are bad, the AMD cheekriser somehow manages to make them worse.

>>30176658
lol That would be awesome, the place that had one for sale sold it and a deact 74u for 200,000 rubles

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So much hi res so little time

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damnit why does chimps have to be having fun a nuggetfest

>>30176690

I didn't realize the Russian ruble was so shit till I did the conversion just now. wew lad.

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Ohhh, that sharp shouldered booster

>it's getting steamy over here

>>30176648
Pride.

>>30176303
>>30176307
>>30176310
>>30176321
Pretty gimmicky. Just stick it in a regular suitcase. Takes .3 seconds more to get it running and you don't have a big dumb handle on top of your gun, nor did you spend all that money rigging one up.

If you need that fraction of a second to get shooting, you already fucked up.

>>30176711
sounds a bit jealous

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>>30176269
Triangle reporting in

>>30176812
How do you like the cheek weld with the triangle? Better then an under folder

>>30176387
"big guy" jokes aside, those guys are wide as fuck.

>>30176969
4u

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>>30176838
Definitely better then a Under folder
>imo

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>>30176969
they are fat because of large consumption of vodka and pelmini

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>>30177039
So damn tasty

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>>30177057
your optic is tasty

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>>30177127
higher res

>>30176282

>effective range, 5m

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>>30177152
>implying it is a suitcase MP-5

>>30177152
more like 350m

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>>30176838
Yes. Underfolders aren't nearly as practical, imo. I like the look of an underfolder though, and I'd like to add a Polish one to my collection sometime soon.

What seems like a smarter optic buy for the money?

- Obzor ($460)
- Any other American optic (price of the rail must be included)

>>30177551
Depends on how usable you want it to be. Obzor sure is neat but it's just not comfy enough to shoot with.

>>30175884
What lower hand guard is that on the 107?

>>30177617

Delicious AK-9 handguard, friendo.

>>30177603

Is it because it's so high up? I'm drawn to the Obzor because of its apparent longevity and simplicity, and the fact that I wouldn't have to purchase a rail separately if I got one.

I'm just concerned whether this thing functions properly indoors, and whether the Russian theory of "having your face high up to improve your field of view while shooting" is better than a good cheekweld.

My intent is to use this thing as a hardy, long term SHTF sight.

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I've posted this before but I wasn't around to see the replies


is this normal? patches come out fairly clean, not black or blue

I feel like the barrel is supposed to be chrome colored all the way through

>>30177703
What make is the rifle ?

>>30177750
just a WASR-10

>>30177703
It's just copper

>>30177663
Unless you have a helmet on that makes it impossible to get a good cheek weld, stick with something that is as close to the irons as possible, or get yourself a cheek riser (band-aid).

But my thought is when you train with your rifle you want to keep things consistent. You should always be familiar with using your irons, so why re train your brain to hold your head up much higher when using a dot?

For longevity and durability, an Aimpoint is much more reliable than any comblock optic ever will be. Paired with an RS regulate mount, it will give you the lowest possible mount on an AK, which is lower 1/3rd co-witness.

If you want to take cool pictures to post on here then get the Obzor.

>>30177763
This
it's fine

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>>30177779
I find my aimpoint very comfortable to shoot

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time to play the waiting game fellas

will it be worth it?

>>30177703
It means you're obviously having fun with your gun.

>>30177821
Why? Zambian chum wood? 922r bootlickin'? Anericlap LOP? M76?

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>had a nightmare that I was in the middle of a home invasion, and that the AKT on my SLR snapped like the locking lug on an I.O. bolt

>mfw waking up

>>30178030
idk what you're asking, but it's furniture from ironwood designs

>>30178037
why would you worry about that when you have a bayonet?
you do have a bayonet, right?

>>30178051
Why would you buy IWD?

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>>30178051

Yep, big brick of a bayonet, looks exactly like this one.

But haven't you ever had one of those "my gun malfunctioned" nightmares? Everything seems to go wrong, including not having a bayonet on hand.

>>30178058
because it looks awesome and they make good shit


you can turn your ruger 10/22 into what looks like an AUG with that stock that they sell

>>30178121
I don't remember the last nightmare I had at all.
Unless you count last night where I had a sherman tank sitting in my garage, and when I woke up, I didn't.

Anyway Im just saying it's just a dream; keep your bayonet hadny at all times m8

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>>30176640
Thank you anon. The only thing that is bad about it is this overly enlarged trigger pin hole.

Any recommendations to fix it or just leave it?

>>30178147

Min has a bulge like that, not as big though. If it functions okay then rifle is fine.

Still rather bullshit that Arsenal can't make a cleaner rifle for 1000-1100 bucks. The hardiness of their parts is their saving grace, imo.

>>30178121
>But haven't you ever had one of those "my gun malfunctioned" nightmares?

Oh god yes, almost the same thing about having a home invasion and having the gun go click. It's the worst feeling but it's funny that even in my dream my first reaction is to rack the charging handle as violently as possible to get that bitch up and running, then it goes bang.

>>30176318
Brigada?

>>30178147
>recommendations
git rid of that shit-tier ALG trigger and put the right sized pins in the right trigger back in.

>>30178328
The pin was from the stock arsenal trigger

>>30176294
fucking AWESOME!

but would it still work without the krink-booster muzzlebrake?

also, how do you aim if handle is attached?

>>30176678
hot fuck, where do I get one of those PistolGrips?

>>30176812
>>30177233
learn to clean your camera lens.

>>30177703
you need a bore cleaner WITH copper solvent, a la Hoppes#9 w/ Copper Solvent, and use a bronze brush that is one size bigger than your bore, 38 chamber brush tends to work well. And make sure you stroke it all the way through before changing direction.

>>30178239
its supposed to have that buldge. new russian 74 receivers have it on both sides.

>>30178444
yea, it just ground itself down to the wrong length.

Go get some real surplus pins, they dont count towards 922

>>30178328
>shit-tier ALG
>the right trigger back in
kek
The original Arsenal trigger is shit, and the ALG is the best trigger for the money right now.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
>>30178467
>922
>worrying about 922r


>>30178147
If your pin is retained by your plate/clip, and your trigger is still running reliably, then it's fine. If you're really worried about it, get new pins.

>>30178491
RAK-1 with braid is skookum

>>30178887
>samefag
Oh and it's $25 and doesn't look like a faggot

>>30175663
>you will never get a nork Type 88 parts kit
Why even live? Also anyone have info on the Type-98-1? I've seen mentions of it but I don't know much about it.

>>30178887
>>30178956

ALG>>>>RAK>Crapco>>>>>>Arsenal "2 stage"


Enjoy your WASR though.

>>30175663
>wearing evil capitalist ear muffs
>not realizing that those caps have flaps on them that are meant to be turned down for warmth

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Tacticool or classic?
I can't decide which way to go with this Saiga
>I already have a slr 104

>>30179043
>not realizing that those caps have flaps on them that are meant to be turned down for warmth
Could be uniform standards.

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>>30179011

Do any of you throw your auxiliary spring on your ALG to bring up the pull weight?

>>30179181
Then those uniform standards would theoretically also prohibit evil capitalist ear muffs.

>>30179249
I bought 3 of them when they first came out and none came with the spring.

>>30179249
Mine didn't come with it.

>>30179069
Tasteful tacticool

>>30179307
That's wierd mine came with it tho I did no use it

>>30179307
>>30179316

Well shit, mine was a more recent buy, and it came with it. It was optional to put it on, so I just skipped it.

Is there any reason to bring the pull weight up besides personal preference?

>>30179249
I tried it, not a big fan though.

>>30179320
I was thinking
>RD m4 adapter plus some style of stock
>Krebs full rail
>thread the barrel to take ar-15 muzzles brakes

>>30179069
I'd say, dress it up like an East German AK-74

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>>30178328
>ALG trigger
>shit-tier

sure hope you're fucking trolling, senpai.

>>30179367
I just don't know if I want to fork over the money for new gas block, retainer and sight block
At that point I would just throw wood on it and go full ak74
>fucking decisions

>>30179416
>I just don't know if I want to fork over the money for new gas block, retainer and sight block
You weren't planning on doing that anyway?

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>>30179069
Russian tacticool with Zenit rail and stock. Tacticool AKs are sweet as long as they don't resemble pic related.

>>30179011

Aren't those pretty much the only AK triggers on the market that aren't military surplus or some crazy 6 gorillion dollar custom trigger?

>>30179338
It's a personal preference thing. Since not all AK's are equal, trigger pulls on some installs can be too light for some people.

>>30179069
Wood furniture with an RS Regulate mounted optic and a flashlight mounted on an Ultimak.

I don't really see what else is needed.

>>30179423
Well if I put the rails on no. Also if I go that route I rather just use ar brakes instead of the standard sight block threads

>>30176252
i hate gooks as much as the next /k/ommando but i think its really sad that those people have to live in communism like that

i really do hope they get liberated

>>30179434
What the fuck is that flapping resin thingy over the front sight?

>>30179521
Looks to be a rail cover that they didn't take off for some reason.

>>30179500
I'm more concerned about the people in the EUSSR at the moment :^)

>>30179521
>>30179629
It's a pressure switch for his Surefire.

The Russians want to be Westernized so badly

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Stealth tennis racquet AK best AK

>>30176648

I get it, but I think it's mostly the very worn rifles they carry. They give the people and the scene they're in more character.

>>30179776

Get a Fighter 24 muzzle brake.

It'll take an inch off your AK's length

https://youtu.be/rg3uo8YMlcE?t=1m11s

Your thoughts?

>>30179640
I hope England leaving the eu triggers their autism and they reveal they're actually the fourth Reich in disguise

>>30180205
>fourth reich
Nah

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I've got a second Obzor coming in Monday, and the hunt for a Soviet faceted 74 brake is on.

I'm was genuinely considering selling all of my non-plum mags (about a dozen Bulgarian sanitized black painted Russian plums and about another dozen black (10) mags) and only buying plums, but that would be too much effort for something that really only concerns looks and not function as (10)s are perfect and the sanitized mags are great as well. Plums are just a best tho

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>>30180205
>fourth Reich

>>30180233
Fine, fifth Reich. I always forget the moon nazis
(In all seriousness tho, the eu us trash)

>>30180267
>getting triggered about fascist or Nazis
>>>/lgbt/

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I wish I had an updated picture of my side folder on my phone. Since I don't have an updated picture, this one will have to do for now.

Anyway, posting for the love of sexy side folding bitches.

>Inb4 crappy resolution.

>>30180257
I'm waiting on my ten plums from Vafag

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>>30179434
Holy fuck that setup is so terrible it hurts.
>Super high mounted EOshit with flippable magnifier
>Offset red dot anyway
>Riser moount on Zenit rail
>PEQ-15 on riser
>Pressure switch IN FRONT of PEQ
>Weighted grip
>Airshit-tier rail covers and stock and cheek riser
>Casket mag
That thing must weigh 15 pounds.

>>30179434

Lol UTG

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postan muh side folder.

>>30180257
I'd love some plum furniture for mine. Know where any may be for sale?

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>>30180461

>>30180389
I'm currently sitting on around 40 5.45 mags so I don't need to buy anymore, I just think plum furniture with black mags doesn't look nearly as good as plum with plum.

>>30176269

Lol gun plumber's pic from akfiles.


nice try.

>>30180590
I didn't say it was mine. I just posted a pic with triangles.

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>>30180551
Ah well this ten will bring my grand total to 24 surplus mags so 12 per rifle I hope I won't buy any more
> I probly will tho

>>30180735
> I probly will tho
You will. You always will. I sold off all of my non-black Bulgarian mags (a few brown (21)s and two red (25)s) along with about a dozen bakes and can you guess what the first thing I did was?

If your guess was immediately buy more plum mags then your guess was correct. It's an addiction.

Is there an AK tier list?

>>30180815
Well fuck at least I have two 5.45 rifles to feed mags

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>currently have an SLR-107FR with a US Palm grip and AKT, with a couple thousand rounds of ammo (including a crate of Yugo M67), thirty steel mags

>also have an Aero AR-15 lower and 20 pmags getting shipped right now

>currently on my list of things to still get are the rest of those parts for that AR-15, an Obzor, some mags from Va, and even more ammo

I am going to be so fucking poor by the time this election comes around.

>>30180902
>only a couple thousand rounds of 7.62x39
pleb

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>>30176252

They've got some N64 fucking faces

>>30180980

Nigga I'm rectifying that. Give my poor wallet a break.

Can someone give me some advice? I have an IO AK47, and I'm planning on trading it for an AMT Hardballer. I know that both the IO and the AMT are both pieces of shit, but is the trade worth it?

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>>30181043
>g-give my wallet a break
NO

>>30181137

Sell it and buy something worth a damn

>>30181137
Just sell it, trust me. It's better to barely get your money back than it is to get stuck in a constant cycle of trading.

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Just got a primary arms advanced micro dot and RS regulate mount. It works great on my SLR-104. On a semi-related note, What range should I zero my RDS for? i'll mostly be engaging targets within 100m. does anyone happen to know how many moa each click is on the primary arms advanced micro dot?

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>>30181262
I zeroed my aimpoint at 50yards I seem to work well

>>30176700
When you gonna mega dump?

>>30181357
are u going to get more plum furniture senpai

>>30181396
Hopefully after my mags get here
I also want a triangle folder to go with the plum handguards
>tho my next purchase is anoth crate of 7n6

hello comrades glorious

It is time for me to invest in an AK, can you answer a few questions and help me out?

Where's the cheapest, bang for the buck AK out there? I'm starting from scratch, and need to get everything I need at once, so I also wanna know where you recommend buying ammo.

How to reflex sight: I used a reflex sight for years and can't go back to ironsights, any tried and true tips?

Finally, bayonets: Yes or no? I know there's no point but just wanted to know your opinions

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>>30181870
best bang for buck 7.62x39 ak
>pic related WASR
reflex sights
>use a side rail mount, top cover rail or ultimak gas tube replacement
bayonets
>why not they are only ~$35, just make sure the ak u buy has the bayonet lugs intact

>>30181973
>WASR
Aren't they shit? How do I get a WASR that isn't shit?

Also, is it really true that you just spray your AK with some cheapass solution and call it a day when cleaning?

>>30181870
sgammo.com
WASR tough as nails basic bitch. Kinda ugly but tough as nails.
SLR if you need a bitch that can turn tricks.
All sorts of kits and older guns out there if you wanna throw money towards something special.

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>>30182020
either find a local gunstore and inspect the rifle, or order online and inspect before accepting the transfer.

check the sights for cant, mag well, rivets and safety lever.

people use CLP to clean the carbon off, i use ballistol buts it all the same in the end. if you shoot corrosive ammo you need hot water and a hairdryer before lubing up

>pic related its a wasr

>>30182020
1 Make sure it has a side scope mount
2 rest the rifle on both the front and rear sight if all four corners made by the sights are on the table your sights have no major cant

Your done, wasr's where never shit but they have always been a cheap rifle that has been imported in many configurations.

>>30182020
Basically an AK is an AK is an AK. It's just a matter of features, time put into machining and assembly, quality of finish.
>save these Americlap products with potmetal parts

>>30181870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Sv4wtyJPU
>this guy is active in the AK community and has some good tips to inspect an AK

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>>30181870
>I'm starting from scratch, and need to get everything I need at once.
No, no you do not. That's a horrible way of thinking and you're going to end up with a shitty AK with shitty accessories unless you've got some coin to drop. Buy it and build it up like people do with ARs, or make sure that you've got all the money for all the best shit.

It seems to me the best bang for your buck in this day and age would be a DDI AK, unless you want to spend the extra money and get an Arsenal or spend less and get a What A Shitty Rifle.

>Bayonet
It's a novelty. You've got no purpose for one and affixing it will do nothing but put weight on the front of your rifle. If you want one to just sit there so you can occasionally admire the rifle with it on, then go for it, but otherwise it's useless.

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Thinking about picking up a SLR-104UR because I'm too poor for a kit build but want a krink.
Anyone here got experience with them, particularly after cutting down the barrels? I know historically cutting down 1:8 twist 74 barrels has caused keyholing, but from what I've seen they work perfectly.

>>30182290
>2016
>buying a DDI
Kek

>>30182290
Not from scratch with EVERYTHING, I just need a few mags and mag pouches. I didn't mean everything ever made in life.

>>30182428
What's wrong with DDI

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>>30182434
What pouches do you honestly need? How many mags you looking to buy? This shit isn't really expensive unless you plan on buying tons of them. Hell, APEX actually sells a pouch with three mags and an oiler for $40 here: http://www.apexgunparts.com/slings-mag-pouches-and-covers/ak47-30rd-steel-magazines-3-w-pouch-oiler-7-62x39-good.html

>>30182434
Nothing really, although I'd like to see how the barrels hold up to bimetal. Why buy a domestic rifle when we still have limited access to an import that retains some pedigree.

DDI are on the shelves, SLR are SOS, nuffsaid.

>>30182487
wew, that deal looks nice

I don't need to many pouches, but I like pouches because i'm a pog gearfaggot assmonk

>>30182557
Personally I'd forget the pouches and get a cheap chicom chest rig.
http://www.amazon.com/Surplus-China-Rifle-Bandoleer-Cartridge/dp/B00GMO8ZRI

>>30182675
Already have a plate carrier and an issued FLV, why get more shit? I'd rather not have 2 things strapped to my chest at once tbqhfms

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/560384341

I won guys

>>30182701
one hell of a wew purchase

that price

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>>30177703
It's fine

>>30177821
I might have to place an order if the wait is only that long

>>30181371
Ehhh, wish I had decent upload and and could just make a torrent

>>30182424
Do it, they work perfectly cut down

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>>30182701
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/560384341
if you actually won i feel bad for you
>enjoy your overpriced plum

>>30182701
Screenshot of winning bid or gtfo.

>>30182085
>inspect before accepting the transfer.

how do you decline a transfer, how would the ffl react to logging it into his books and you decide to no longer to take it and pay the $$$ to him for the transfer.

>>30182701
Would you lose value mounting it on a rifle ?

>>30182290


Dat hungarian steel.

>>30182857
i havent ordered online yet but i imagine you inspect it, say you wont accept , pay the shipping back and probably pay the ffl fee too

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I think I'm going switch back to plum

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CNC warrior stock was a good buy.

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>>30182875
>Hungarian
It's a PM md.63, so it's Romanian, not Hungarian.

>>30182990
Looks so sex though

>>30182694
Those AK mag pouches aren't MOLLE you fuckhead.
>I'd rather not have 2 things strapped to my chest at once tbqhfms
It's not that bad.

>>30183046
Go ahead and keep trying to rationalize it

>>30183168
What do you mean? My only regret is that i got the left side folder and not the right.

>>30183201
It's ugly as fuck

>>30182694
>slick plate carrier
>chink chest rig
Works well enough from what I've seen

>>30183277
thats my plan lol ar500 III plate and chink carrier

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>>30183091
I think I might like it better if the upper handguard was darker

>>30182778
We all know you have rare photo's to share

Is Inter Ordnance any good or is it shit?

>>30183839
IO? Avoid them if you value your face

>>30183627
Maybe you should get two ak74s because the plum looks good too


>>30183672
I would say rare, okay maybe a few but random collections of super specific pictures (like the day I spent 4 hours finding pictures of pp-91 bolt faces).

>>30183882
Even the newer american made ones?

>>30183909
buy I one m8 I own one.

>>30183627
Fuck

>>30183909
Yes. They're all shit.
>using castings for the bolt and front trunnion
>ever
Not just that but they're garbage castings

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>>30183909

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgW_Wye9jMk

Behold the shit that is I.O.

>>30181973

what a runty looking faggot of a pic, shitty 1970's carpet is a nice touch.

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>>30184621

>shooting an I.O. without eye protection
>the fucking locking lugs shearing off

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>>30176424
Fuck me why do there have to be so many rare ak mags.

>>30180403
Better than your AK or AR nick,
btw triangle master race.

>>30184621
WEW

>>30184621
Dropped after the massive inhale at the beginning. Amateur hour shit

>>30184621
Holy shit.

>>30182813
Yeahhhh
Plum looks great and all but fuck that price tag.

>>30185263
>2016
>being poor

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>>30185272
>jewden?

>>30185329
I believe you mean
>Juden
And no, not really sure why you gotta bring that up.

>>30185272

You should totally buy this furniture so you can take pictures and post them on the internet. Then everyone else can look at those pictures and say to themselves, "damn that's an awesome furniture set but holy fuck that person has trisomy twenty-one for paying that much for it."

>IO owners who think that their AK's are okay

Are they the cucks of the AK world?

>>30185626
No, the cucks are the arsenal fanboys.
>pay $1k+ for a rifle
>the finish boils off
>the trigger is shit
>tons of canted sights
>egged FCG holes
>fucked rivets
>they rationalize this and claim to enjoy it
Wew

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>>30185640
Fair enough. How do you feel about IO, though? I'm curious. Are they like Rock Island 1911s, good for budget enthusiasts? Or, should they be avoided at all costs?

>>30185674
IO Incs are fucking time bombs. Don't even bother. The closest thing to a Rock Island 1911 would be a WASR. The IO Inc guns are dangerous, anything MADE by century (not imported but MADE) like the RAS-47 or C39V2 are almost as bad and should be avoided. Just get a WASR.

I want to buy my first gay K 47, what should I know? Redpill me on AK's. I don't know a damn thing about rivets, brands, milled, stamped, anything. Teach me the way of the K, /k/.

>>30185697
Wasr

>>30185697
Theres tons of shit that can't fit all in one post. Ask more specific questions. You can LITERALLY write volumes about Russian made AK's alone.

>>30185712
Okay. Can you explain to me the deficiencies listed in >>30185640, I don't quite know all of the AK terminology yet. Also, are there any general, go to rules that I can use when I look for an AK? Also, are the rules the same when looking for an SKS?

>>30185674
>>30185684
If you're determined to get an IO, then get the akm247t. It looks stupid and tacti"""""cool""""", but it works surprisingly well and is the only well built IO rifle. It's the kid in the family who was raised in a ghetto but got away from that shit and went to college.

>>30185745
That post is mostly just banter making fun of some of the exaggerated complaints about Arsenal SLR-104FRs and SLR-107FRs. I'll break it down though for you.
>pay $1k+ for a rifle
People tend to view AK's as "cheap commie rifles" so $1k seems like a lot.
>the finish boils off
A few batches of SLR-104FRs and SLR-107FRs had finish issues where the finish on the barrel would bubble a bit if you mag dumped 3 full mags one after another.
>the trigger is shit
Arsenal triggers are a fake 2-stage. Essentially there is a small ledge that the trigger has to overcome on the hammer and it can cause issues.
>tons of canted sights
The front sight blocks, gas blocks, and rear sight blocks on all AK's are pressed and pinned on. Sometimes they're not put on straight and thus have some cant to them. When buying an AK you want to check for cant.
>egged FCG holes
Since AK receivers (most) are a stamped piece of steel with forged trunnions that hold all the important parts... well the FCG group pins can open up the holes in the receiver IF they're not heat treated right but that takes literally thousands of rounds to usually show up
>fucked rivets
Either rivets that aren't formed right or are ugly.
>they rationalize this and claim to enjoy it
Jews

>>30185745
>Arsenals are overpriced for their deficiency's
>Arsenal occasionally fails to do the prep work properly before finishing their rifles and it quickly falls of
>Arsenals triggers are known to have reset issues
>Arsenal has canted sights the same as a $600 WASR for double the price
>Arsenals can fave the trigger pin accidentally oversized
>Arsenals don't have riveting any better than a $600 WASR.

>>30185793
They're all the fucking same, don't bother.

>>30185793
>>30185810
Thanks, guys. What else would you tell an aspiring AK aficionado? Break it down Barney style, I'm ignorant about AK's.

>>30185828
I've got an akm247t. 2000+ rounds without many issues. One rivet came loose about a week ago and it was a 10 min fix.

IO is trash, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Inspect every gun before you buy.

>>30185848
If you value you face/eyes/hands/neck do not buy an IO rifle or a ras47/c39 or c39v2.

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>>30179776

good taste anon!

>>30185865
>only 2000 rounds and rivets are already falling apart
wew

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>>30185640

>Rob Ski reviews it
>the 4000 round mark review is so fucking boring in terms of bad things happening it's just called "cruise control"
>still landing good grouping at 300 yards despite the shit it's been put through
>calling it "shit"

Admit it, even considering that Rob got the worst example of an Arsenal I've ever seen, it still BTFOs 99% of AKs on the US market now.

I'm not excusing shit finish or shit triggers, but comparisons to RAS-47s or I.O. is the new "GLOCKNADE LOL XD"

I want to get my first AK, but I have zero idea where to start. I've lurked a few of the ak generals and this shit is just so much more complex than ar's. How do I begin?

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>>30186279
Tick tock arsenormie. My WASR is going to be worth twice your Arsenal when Hillary does a new AWB.

>>30186307
Are you retarded?

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>>30186307
WASR. Always start with a WASR. Preferably a newer GP WASR-10.

They're cheap(er) than the more expensive Arsenals, Veprs, or boutique AKs, yet will still truck along and do their job. They are very hardy and reliable. They used to go for under 500, but a combination of it being an election year and the quality control on them being bumped up has forced the price a little higher. Try to get one for under 700, or you'll be overpaying.

Do NOT get an RAS-47 or I.O. You are literally asking for your face to get blown off.

Learn to check for front sight canting, general fit and finish, and make SURE that the gun is properly headspaced before you buy it.

Learn your gun, get lots of mags, and even more ammo.

>>30186329
maybe. why?

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>>30186337
Why not just order from Atlantic?

>>30185745
See attached image. My father inherited a Chinese SKS with Tapco furniture, shoots a lot better than I thought it would. Better groups than some AK's and was mega-light weight.

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Getting together the smaller parts for my AK74 build.

Is there any reason NOT to go with an AKT over the G2 aside from price? Or is it pretty much 100% good to go.

It will be going in a Bulgy 74 kit.

>>30187335

the AKT is very light...so its prone to bumpfire.

As Jim Fuller mentions on his Website:

"The AKT will lighten the trigger pull relative to a stock trigger, which will make the firearm easier to discharge. You must recognize and accept this fact before installing this trigger. If you do not want a lighter than stock trigger pull, or are not willing to accept responsibility for the safety of your firearm, yourself, and those around you, do not install this tigger."

>>30187372

So go with the G2?

I'm not looking for a superb trigger here. Just one that works well and is 922R.

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>>30180267
git slavaboo

>>30187374
RAK-1 from Buds is $25 right now. Use the stock braided wire instead of the single wire included in the kit.

>>30187374
Get the AKT!!! G2 is shit compared, and if for some reason you're worried about it being too light they come with a spring to add weight (mine feels about stock AR trigger weight, kinda wish it was lighter)

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>>30187335
AKT is the best trigger. Regardless of price.
If you're worried about this shit >>30187372 there's an auxiliary spring in the AKT kit >>30179249 to make the trigger pull a bit heavier.

>>30186309
No it isn't. Kek

>>30185889
At 9.8k on mine. Mix of both premium brass and loltula. Biggest issue I've had is the factory trigger spring wearing out. Ones made after 2014 or so seem to be on par with nice WASRs.

I.O. could have been good, but they had to crash their reputation with no survivors. Now all they get is gamblers and people wanting project rifles.

>>30187522
>10k rounds
>Through an IO

Kek.
Nobody believes that, not even IO.

>>30188556
Neat. RPG sling?

>>30188556
Wat.

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thoughts?

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>>30188934
I love my beryl.

>>30187399

This.

Its probably the finest AK trigger on the market that's not some totally custom fitted job. But its VERY light. You will not be forgiven if you don't practice good trigger discipline.

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>>30189015
The tapco g2 in my Saiga is much lighter then the akt. I like the akt a lot more

What's the best aftermarket Beryl-style top rail? I'm thinking of getting one for my Tantal because finding the a Tantal side-rail is impossible.

>>30189052

Seriously? The G2 in my shitpiece Lancaster is way heavier than the AKT I threw in my 107FR.

The AKT in mine breaks easier than the hip bone of a kid with progeria.

>>30189289
If I could post the video I would show you but it so light that it can sometimes double of even triple fire

>>30189289
Yeah seriously, fuck AKT. Faggot gucci AR target trigger. RAK is just like the G2 but better casting. Has take up, crisp brake. Perfect for an AK.

Should I get a single hook or a double hook Tapco G2? Is there any difference?

>>30189329

If you buy an Arsenal, Vepr, Rifle Dynamics, or any other AK in the four figure range, you've forfeited your right not to be called a guccifag.

Might as well go all in and shove an AKT in there.

>>30175663
>wearing ushankas
>and ear muffs

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>see an arsenal in the store
>notice that it costs about $600 more than the other AKs
>ask the employee why
>he winks at me
>opens the gun
>there's an ounce of rust inside

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>>30189394

Get what your receiver is cut for.

>>30189496

What is a Nodak Spud AK74 receiver cut for? Am I the retard?

>>30189448
>Arsenal
>not just wanting full ak-74 features on your gun
That just makes you a smart, buy once cry once practicalfag, not a guccifag.

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>>30189480

I don't think those ear flaps fold down.

>>30189329
>RAK made by Century Arms
>Better than an AKT made by Geisele who is renowned for the best triggers
Wew lad

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>>30189502

These NDS receiver models have one trigger slot:

NDS-1
NDS-1KP
NDS-1P
NDS-M92
NDS-65
NDS-6
NDS-2
NDS-2SF
NDS-2T
NDS-3
NDS-7
NDS-8.

These NDS receiver models have two trigger slots:

NDS-4
NDS-5
NDS-9
NDS-Y556


Their '74 receivers are NDS-2 so they use a single hook trigger.

>>30189560

Life saver m80. Danke shoen.

>>30189448
Fair enough lol. The AKT feels like a competition trigger to me, just not feeling it in my AK.

>>30189547
Whatever, that's the only thing nobody complains about in the C39 etc, the trigger is breddy gud. Who cares who makes it, before the AKT everyone raved about the G2 *cough tapco*

Chink milled trigger best trigger senpai, perhaps best fielded in a service weapon lads.

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>>30189763
>the trigger is breddy gud
Fair enough.
I wasn't saying it was a bad trigger.
Just that the AKT is nicer, subjectively anyway.
>before the AKT everyone raved about the G2
Well it was/is better than the Arsenal trigger, which was about the only other trigger on the market at the time, besides surplus.

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Took my krink to Nuggetfest and whored it out.

Tapco G2 trigger gave one of the people shooting it a 2-shot string of what seemed to be full auto. I've had close together AD's with the G2 before where I've accidentally double tapped because the reset is so light and finicky, but this was actually at the fire rate that it was hard to tell it was 2 shots and not just a single shot. When James Yeager made the video bashing the G2's for malfunctioning and shooting full auto I dismissed him but now I think he may have been right on this. Really would like to replace my G2's now in the ones that have them.

>>30189504

So what's the big advantage of the 90 degree ak-74 style gas block vs the older 45 degree akm gas block?>>30189509

>>30189948
Prevents bullet shearing in 5.45x39.

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>>30189948
The difference is not only in the gas block but the gas port itself. The gas port for a 45° gas block is drilled at the same angle. AK-74's were originally made with a variation of the 45° gas block but it was discovered that the angle was causing shearing on the jackets of the 5.45 bullets. It is also due to the fact that it is much easier to manufacture the barrel and gas block when drilling the holes at right angles.

Almost every design change in the AK rifle throughout the years can be attributed at least in part to making the rifle faster and cheaper to manufacture. The entire idea of the AK-74M was to make an AKs-74N cheap enough to make it standard issue.

>>30189984
>>30189969

Interdasting. So from an end user standpoint, a 90 degree gas block in a 7.62x39 chambered AK (like an slr-107) doesn't mean dick?

>>30190022
Correct, it's simply aesthetic, that the end user may or may not prefer.

>>30189948
>>30189969 this
but that's just one feature that would make me pick an arsenal over a wasr in 545x39

>>30187286
this bullet for reloading ! How did you do ?

>>30190104
The Wasr-2 actually has a 45° gas block that works in tandem with a slightly repositioned 90° gas port, so there is no issue.

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>>30190116
Not my rifles.
But I'm guessing you're talking about the case on the charging handle?
It's just crimped on after flattening the case mouth to fit.

Does anyone have any experience with the UTG top rail? I've been trying to decide between it and the TWS Dog Leg, and the price difference is tempting.

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>>30190141

>>30190141
thx anon

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>>30188556
>>30188650
Pretty sure that's a strap from a Yugoslavian bag. That's a cool idea, never thought of using the straps like that, ill have to try that out.

>>30191006
Well be damned, you're right. Pretty slick

/r/'ing the pic of that Russian spetsnaz operative slowly and clumsily switching weapons, believe it was an AK-104 with drum mag and a GM-94.

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Do these things actually do anything? Are they worth the $10 purchase?

>>30191527
Useless shit.

>>30190164
>UTG
Just stop.

>>30191527
Does it look like you need a buffer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNDTdKQNVU

>>30191527
If you need one of those, something's wrong with your rifle, and you've probably bought an IO, so go ahead and jump off a bridge and save yourself some pain.

>>30191527
they are meant to hide shoddy build mistakes

>>30185887
You must have a MidwayUSA range bag.
Because I totally have one in the same color and all.

>>30191659

Yeah, UTG is pretty mad homo...

>>30191527
> original manufacture no buffer
>why use a buffer ?

>>30191659
>>30192267
So what's wrong with UTG?

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what grease or anti-seize do you guys put on your muzzle threads?

>>30192954
nothing?
I've occasionally used teflon tape to hold the brake 100% still though.

>>30184621

And people want Rob Ski to test one of these next after the Arsenal for 5000 rounds. Shit isn't even going to last 500.

>>30193001

Does the tape get fucked up at all? That seems like a good idea..

>>30192954
White lithium

>>30193010
I wanna see it blow up.

What's a top loader 7.62 drum worth nowadays?

>>30193010
People want Rob Ski dead evidently

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>>30193053

He's going to start the episode in a welders mask and body armor. I'm sure of it.

>>30193036
150~

>>30189938
Chimps, If you have a surplus trigger, assemble it on the sleeve, and compare it to a similar G2. note the disconnector angle. Mine was in a similar state, where it would sometimes double tap. A minute or so working the bottom of the disconnector resolved it (I also polished the top just to make sure the added angle wasn't negatively affecting things).

>>30193273
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot

>>30193018
It's been a while since I've used it, but it stays absolutely fine for me. But I don't magdump and get stuff super hot either.
I just used a wrap or two around the threads, then it snugs up.

>>30193036
Russian or romanian? I paid $200 for a mint Molotov and feel like I got a decent deal.

did VAfag say he had 45 round plum molots?

>>30193466
Molot*

>>30193466
Rommy i believe. I didn't even know russos were available anywhere.

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>>30193602
Oh yeah, super skookum too

>>30192827
Cheap air soft level shit that you'll end up buying multiple times trying to save money. Buy once and cry once.